WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Speculating On Coaches

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Wait

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<v Speaker 1>Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, January fourteenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number one hundred and twelve. Welcome to another edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Break. We are live from s WBC Mortgage

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<v Speaker 1>Studios at the Star. And yeah, it's one of those days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that day following the playoffs, following a playoff loss

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<v Speaker 1>when everything just kind of comes crashing to a halt.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys loose to the Rams thirty to twenty two out

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<v Speaker 1>in LA. And we're gonna break down for you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for the next hour what we think happened in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>why the Cowboys are now sitting outside the playoffs. We

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<v Speaker 1>might can get into a little bit of talk on

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<v Speaker 1>some I don't know if it was news, but something

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett had to say this morning about the offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think it's a big topic right now for fans.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's start first with that game and let's go

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<v Speaker 1>around the table. I know there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that went wrong for the Cowboys. I want each

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<v Speaker 1>of you to tell me which do you think What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think was the biggest problem for Dallas in

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<v Speaker 1>the game against the Rams. Let's start with you, Nick. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna steal everyone's then and say that they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run. That was the biggest problem. And they

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<v Speaker 1>obviously couldn't run the ball, but they couldn't stop the

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<v Speaker 1>run at all. I had no answers for it. And

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line, as good as they played all year,

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<v Speaker 1>they did not show up in that game. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>too bad because it was a great opportunity for them

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<v Speaker 1>to really show what kind of hot boys that they

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<v Speaker 1>were and have been all year. And they didn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>the run. They didn't even touch golf at all. They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get any pressure. And it was brought to my attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if I believe this first drive

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<v Speaker 1>of the game two off sides almost maybe change their

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<v Speaker 1>aggressiveness a little bit. I mean, it seemed like a

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<v Speaker 1>bit that they didn't do anything on that side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball all game. Yeah, I think you can extend

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<v Speaker 1>that as well to the linebackers too. Up. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>front seven kind of no showed in this game. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked a lot before the game about misdirection and

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<v Speaker 1>pre snap motion and all the you know, the play

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<v Speaker 1>fakes the Rams like to use. And they did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm positive the Cowboys spent the whole week preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but man, it didn't look like it. They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get pressure on golf, they couldn't stop the run.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith and Layton vander esh looked like first and

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<v Speaker 1>second year players for the first time all season. Really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not a good game by really anybody in the front seven,

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<v Speaker 1>although I will I mean, and certainly that's the story

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<v Speaker 1>of this game. The Cowboys defense has been the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you could hang your hat on for most of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, but you know, the inability of the offense

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<v Speaker 1>to really keep themselves on the field to help the

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<v Speaker 1>defense with that problem is is equally important to mean

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<v Speaker 1>one of ten on third down, especially as good as

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<v Speaker 1>they've been since they traded for Amari Cooper. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the stat in front of me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know they were top five in the league, and

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<v Speaker 1>third down conversion percentage after they traded for Cooper one

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<v Speaker 1>of ten. That's pretty bad too. So those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two things that really stand out to me. Okay, amber

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<v Speaker 1>Well again, just to run overall both team, one that

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<v Speaker 1>could run, the other one that couldn't. It's amazing to

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<v Speaker 1>me to see that the Cowboys were only able to

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<v Speaker 1>rush the ball fifty yards, three of them being Dak,

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven of them being Zeke. The fact that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this happen before, to where as soon as defenses

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<v Speaker 1>take away the running game for the Cowboys, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really find the answers of how to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dak, I thought he threw the ball a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>He had some nice shots there, but it just wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And he got two hundred and sixty six yards in

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<v Speaker 1>the passing game. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>they just can't they can't find a solution as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as defense take away their running game. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think in what she just said about they took

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<v Speaker 1>away the run, and that's what I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>press conference and Jason Garrett said, you know, they just

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<v Speaker 1>stopped a run and that they were committed to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's fine, but it's just, you know, dak Is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's frustrating for fans because on one game you're like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what an unbelievable performance against Seattle. He was great, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was great at times or really good at times

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<v Speaker 1>against the Rams, but like, if they're taking away your run,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be able to beat them, and he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't and they couldn't, and so it's just frustrating. Something

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely got a change there. So when we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that other topic you've got that you alluded to,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'd like to comment on that. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>a question though about that. There's a lot going I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that when you when you start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about them, you know they were committed to stopping the run.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thought that comes to my mind is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a conversation that goes all the way back to

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. We all talked about the fact that guess what, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna roll out there without a number one

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, teams are gonna try to stop you. And

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<v Speaker 1>what did they say? They said, we've been facing eight

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<v Speaker 1>nine men fronts. Zeke said, we've been facing eight men

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<v Speaker 1>eight nine men fronts until it since I've been here.

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<v Speaker 1>My thought is, if if that's what they knew, and

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what they always said, we can still run

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<v Speaker 1>against that, are we starting to see now and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even want to say starting to see? Did we

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<v Speaker 1>see this year and it become very apparent that this

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<v Speaker 1>team doesn't have the offensive line that it once had.

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<v Speaker 1>That could maybe press the issue when team said we're

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<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna put eight nine men in the box, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be committed to stopping the run, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys would say, we're still gonna run. Have they now

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<v Speaker 1>been shown they cannot do that with how they were

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<v Speaker 1>currently constructed. Yes, I mean well, whether or not they

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<v Speaker 1>want to accept that is a different question, But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been shown that. That's that's I said that yesterday. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this team still calls plays and runs its offense, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, at least as if they have the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen or twenty sixteen line and it just plays. But

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<v Speaker 1>the play, the one you're talking about, fourth down, fourth down,

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<v Speaker 1>fourth in a very long one. That's this this and

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<v Speaker 1>we've said it till we're blue in the face. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're repeating ourselves. I have at least is uh

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<v Speaker 1>this this team Jason Garrett, Scott Nahan, the Cowboys, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to pin on their whole thing is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna do us and execute as well as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not. We're like, we're gonna line up and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna beat you. Except that that hasn't worked for them,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in those obvious types of situations. It's not all

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<v Speaker 1>their fault. Nobody could have predicted that Travis Frederick would

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<v Speaker 1>come down with an autoimmune disease, etc. Etc. The point

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<v Speaker 1>still remains, this offensive line is not the just jaw

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<v Speaker 1>dropping dominant unit that it was in previous playoff fronts,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have not adjusted to that fact. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, but you can. You can still do things

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<v Speaker 1>with them, and you've seen them being able to so.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, there are certain plays that happened throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>game that I thought were good but missed opportunities. There were, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the Blake Jarving one where he was just completely open

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<v Speaker 1>um and he got the ball. You remember that one. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is they can get certain guys to be

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<v Speaker 1>open Beasley where he had a nice place and for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, he didn't execute it to where he turned

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<v Speaker 1>and caught the ball. D just threw it at him,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seemed like the ball was intended to just

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<v Speaker 1>go to seek Um sorry basilely on that play. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the connecting parts. It's just they're just not

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<v Speaker 1>always on the same rhythm. And I believe, yes they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>The old line is not at the level we once

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<v Speaker 1>saw them. But at the same time, you can't accomplish things. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right about that. That I completely agree you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But it's it's a complete arrogance and or

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<v Speaker 1>delusional or whatever. It's like, Steph Curry, as great as

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<v Speaker 1>you are shooting, don't go in there and try to

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<v Speaker 1>dunk on on check. That's not what you do. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just going into the pain and try dunk

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<v Speaker 1>quite acting like like you can do that. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think, Oh, I see you, I see Donald, I

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<v Speaker 1>see you, Sue, I see all that stuff. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run it right at you, yell, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I actually want to do those five plays if they

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<v Speaker 1>won the game. I was gonna put that fourth and

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<v Speaker 1>one way early in the game when they went right

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<v Speaker 1>at him and they got it, and then Cooper got

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<v Speaker 1>the penalty and all that stuff. But that almost was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we got this, We're gonna go right at you. Well

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<v Speaker 1>it happened later on a full yard and they said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna run over you because we got Connor Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not to say and Looney and Zach Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently Zach Martin played pretty bad too, I will and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think they were horrible by any

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of the imagination. Dak only was sacked once. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Aaron Donald didn't register that we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I thought Connor Williams held up pretty well,

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<v Speaker 1>Like and that's the point, like this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>bad offensive line, but it ain't the Great Wall of Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>And to just line up, to quote Jason Garrett on

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<v Speaker 1>a long one and just plow right at him it

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just not the best idea. And the equally

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating part was they had a great play call for

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<v Speaker 1>a similar situation because they used it five minutes later

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<v Speaker 1>when the game was gone. I mean, like, yeah, get

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<v Speaker 1>your quarterback moving. Sean McVay made a great call as well,

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<v Speaker 1>like misdirection, multiple options, play action, give your quarterback a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to do two things in one play, or even

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<v Speaker 1>it's something as simple, how about motioning your wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>across the formation every time you run the ball, not

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<v Speaker 1>giving it to him, and then on a crucial third

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<v Speaker 1>down you do and he gets nine yards like stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, stuff that we haven't seen from the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>all year. And straight up they thought, or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this for sure, but they certainly appeared to think

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<v Speaker 1>that they could just line up and run it however

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted. And it's not true. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that because and obviously Garrett made it

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<v Speaker 1>clear that they were committed to stopping the run, that

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams are committed to stopping the Cowboys run. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you at all surprised that the Cowboys didn't take an

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<v Speaker 1>approach or should they have taken approach that maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>should just start throwing it a lot more. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I say that is because we did. We

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<v Speaker 1>did see I know it was at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, but we did see in that New York

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<v Speaker 1>Giant game. They win in that game, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive offensively with the passing game that would suggest to

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<v Speaker 1>me that maybe it might have built a certain level

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence with them. You would think that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>success could that you maybe say, hey, we know they're

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<v Speaker 1>committed to running the ball, let's at least show them that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go at them with the passing game, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we can come back to our run once we get

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<v Speaker 1>them to back off a little bit. But are you

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<v Speaker 1>surprised it didn't take that that strategy. Yeah, And no excuses.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were. They were really that they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't as healthy as they have been. And this again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not an excuse, but you know, Beasley and

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<v Speaker 1>Jarwin didn't practice week, didn't know if they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to play, and and and does it matter you know, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so Beasley's running across the field and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a ball thrown right at him. He doesn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>it's there. I mean, they were off and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that kind of limited him a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 1>also they only got sacked once. But we all we

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<v Speaker 1>know that that clock has got to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit less in Dack's head because they do bring the heat.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were it was a fight every single snap. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were some things that they could have done

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<v Speaker 1>and for sure, and I agree with you Dave about

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<v Speaker 1>what watch what the Rams did. That's what Tavan was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to bring. Doesn't even have to be him, just

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<v Speaker 1>somebody faking it across and they just get away from

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<v Speaker 1>it and they don't do it. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>never saw tavon Like I know, it was hard to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the game from where we were seating standing, It sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>The press box more talking to got a much better

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<v Speaker 1>view than what we can. Yes, yes, but from the

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<v Speaker 1>very little I got to watch, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>never really saw a Tavan do anything. No, because he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's very very unfortunate and disappointing. Like it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Nick said, they got away from it. Yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Training yea from training, got away from it after training camp. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you look good at training camp. That's I'm I'm reluctant

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<v Speaker 1>to say I can hear I can hear the DAK

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<v Speaker 1>haters lining up on me already. I'm reluctant to say

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<v Speaker 1>that they need to just be back in the shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>chucking it because that's not Dak's game. Like you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not as as highly as I think of him,

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably not going to win a game if he's

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<v Speaker 1>just back there throwing in fifty times. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>just because of where he has a quarterback, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>also limiting the best player on your offense, Ezekiel Elliott,

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation. I mean, I know you can throw

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<v Speaker 1>him the ball, but you still you are limiting him

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<v Speaker 1>by not leaning on the run game. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be more creative in the way you

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<v Speaker 1>try to execute that. So you don't think it's necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where you have a problem with the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>relying on the running game as their primary thing. Do

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a problem to be more consistent with, or

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be more creative in how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They built the team to run the ball, so if

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<v Speaker 1>they can't, if that's not a viable way to win games,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're kind of screwed. Um, So no, and

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<v Speaker 1>and it's worked like they've won. They've had three winning

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<v Speaker 1>seasons in a row leaning on the run game. And

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<v Speaker 1>even when Tony Romo was here, twenty fourteen was all

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<v Speaker 1>about the run. As you know, as many great plays

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<v Speaker 1>as he and Dez made, it was all about the run.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I I don't. I think it's a viable strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that's that's why. But still a viable strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>We just said earlier that you don't think the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line is the same what it was. So is it

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<v Speaker 1>still a viable a viable strategy if the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't play up to a certain level. Yes, but you

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<v Speaker 1>just you're gonna come up against opponents that can make

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<v Speaker 1>you uncomfortable and make you have to adapt. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue Jason Garrett's whole thing is like, well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna adapt, We're gonna do us like we're just

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<v Speaker 1>not executing. And I don't believe that. I don't because

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<v Speaker 1>you will all there will always in life, forget football

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<v Speaker 1>in life, like you're gonna fail, Like that's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen and you have to change up. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about when you look at when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the four teams that are remaining in the playoffs, you

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<v Speaker 1>would say all four of them are extremely creative in

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<v Speaker 1>how they run their offenses. I mean, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>all of Andy Reid out in Kansas City, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at obviously Belichick in New England, but you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton in New Orleans. You look at Sean McVay

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<v Speaker 1>out in with the Rams, like that's what the NFL is.

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't mean I'm a big believer in the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you can win in the NFL with running

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<v Speaker 1>in good defense. But I think that the thing you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do is if you're gonna do that, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't line up and just run the power. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>power run the ball the whole game like that's just

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't I don't know that that would work over

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<v Speaker 1>an entire season, and certainly when you get to the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs where you're playing everybody's good, every team is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that you can line up like that

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<v Speaker 1>and expect to get that level of of of consistency

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to win when teams say, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what you're gonna do, and if we know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're gonna do, we can stop you exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you have other teams are the opponents and

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<v Speaker 1>they're studying what you do. They know what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>They've seen throughout the season that you don't really get creative,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really give them any surprises. This is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you do and we're gonna take it out. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you left to do if you have a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the point of having a quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>throw the ball. So if they take away your running game,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be able to figure it out and throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and make it happen somehow. This is more

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<v Speaker 1>about the it's the Dallas defense, but I think it

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<v Speaker 1>fits within the larger narrative. Did y'all see the quotes

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the Rams locker room immunity? Like we

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<v Speaker 1>could tell based on how Collins was shaded what they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do. Based I mean, if he's over

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<v Speaker 1>here in his hand is placed this way, we know

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. Like that's not encouraging. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the defense. But it just goes to show you

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<v Speaker 1>this team can be really really good when they're firing

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<v Speaker 1>on all cylinders and you can't deal with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you are ready for it and you can stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>then they don't. They don't have a plan B. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the larger narrative because it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, it's the defense. And so that comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to just the overall I don't know if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the message, but it's the overall strategy of what they

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<v Speaker 1>at least preached publicly publicly, which is nameless, faceless opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't adjust to them. We do what we do

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<v Speaker 1>and that's good enough. And maybe that just doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you have to think again. If you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the most successful strategy in the NFL over the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years, I don't think anybody doubts it's been the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do they do every single game? Every single game,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a different strategy. They morph their offense in

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<v Speaker 1>there every year to fit whoever they're gonna play, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they have to have versatile, smart players. But

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<v Speaker 1>they do it and that's how they're so successful. And

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody can. Nobody's been able to replicate it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact is that's a complete opposite strategy of what

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<v Speaker 1>is publicly said here. Well, I mean you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, nameless faceless opponent. Well, you think that if

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<v Speaker 1>if Aaron Donald lines up here or he lines up

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<v Speaker 1>over here, that it doesn't really matter block him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember back in the eighties when Lawrence Taylor was

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<v Speaker 1>lining up. I mean, that was the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>had to do was figure out where he is. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you have dynamic players and they have more than one,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do that. So you can't just just

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<v Speaker 1>say it doesn't really matter. We're gonna blog, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>next man doesn't matter. Connor Williams block it whatever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't. It didn't work, and you had to get

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<v Speaker 1>them on the move, get away from their best guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like I said, it's kind of an arrogance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of this. I'm I'm getting upset. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>was sad. I was sad after the game. I was disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that we're discussing it and just fans talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, now, I'm getting fans are pissed right now

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<v Speaker 1>based off of the story we put out an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, yeah, let's take a break and let's come

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<v Speaker 1>back and let's talk about that a little bit. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an art I mean, I'm not an article.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a phone interview that coach Garrett did today

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<v Speaker 1>with one or five out three the fan where he

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<v Speaker 1>did mention that it looks like he expects the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the Cowboys loss to the Rams play

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<v Speaker 1>Aflso done for the Cowboys for this season. They'll start

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<v Speaker 1>over again. Actually in another week. It all starts over

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<v Speaker 1>because Senior Bowl starts up next week. Here. We keep

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<v Speaker 1>people of people all day yesterday We're like, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>all y'all, Like well everything, you know. I'm like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Cowboys are coaching in the Pro Bowl. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>positive somebody's going to that, no doubt that. You Yep, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there. Yeah. So there's I mean, there will

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<v Speaker 1>be stuff obviously. That's the NFL. It all flips over

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<v Speaker 1>so fast. We are literally a month and a week

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<v Speaker 1>I think from the combine. So this thing starts over

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<v Speaker 1>so let's let's talk about this. This comment that Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett made on a radio program that he in radio

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<v Speaker 1>interview he had a little earlier this morning. He was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to the guys over at one or five out

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<v Speaker 1>three the fan here in Dallas, and he mentioned he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about coach Lenahan and said that his expectation

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<v Speaker 1>is that coach Lenahan will be back. My question for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys is do you think that is accurate? And

0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 1>if yes or no, tell me if you think it's

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the right thing. Let's start with you Amber. Well, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I believe that's what he should say as

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a head coach. I mean, right now, given the situation,

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>what else could you possibly say. You don't necessarily call

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 1>all the shots. You know, you have to have meetings

0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and talk to the managers and the family and all

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that stuff and then have it figure it out. But

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 1>should he be back, Um, probably not. And it just

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<v Speaker 1>breaks my heart because there's a difference, like the thing

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.119
<v Speaker 1>is decides to be nice. No no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>It breaks my heart because we see these people if

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>we talk to them right right, and and then you

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>know they're nice people. Lenahan, it's such a nice guy,

0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.400
<v Speaker 1>always a smile on his face, is very polite, very respectful.

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>But then you have to put that aside and look

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<v Speaker 1>at the business part of it and see how this

0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.320
<v Speaker 1>season turned out. And as far as that, and we

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>talked about the relationship with the quarterback, the quarterback is

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>not changing. Dak is not going anywhere. I don't think

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.360
<v Speaker 1>so at least so that that would be the biggest

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>change that you have to make is change the offensive coordinator.

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Dak needs somebody else that could really get the full

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>potential out of him, and I don't think the best

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 1>match is Lenahan. He's not coming back. I'm that's just

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:28.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna That's just what I believe one hundred percent. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think he will be the offensive coordinator. I

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>don't care what Garrett said. I know Stephen Jones has

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>said something here recently in the last which that that

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of helps my point a little bit, and he

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of answered it differently, and I think it's more important.

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Sorry Jason, but I think what Steven says is more

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:47.959
<v Speaker 1>important than Jason, because I think they ultimately will make

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that decision. Um. I just don't think there's any way,

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and I've said this in fairness, Scott, I don't believe

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Dak is a great quarterback for his system. What he

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>calls open sometimes is not what Dak is. His strong

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.879
<v Speaker 1>suit is. I don't think they're a good marriage together,

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think that it's time to go because he

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 1>has called some plays this year that should have been

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>better plays and they're not. It's just a different This

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>system was supposed to be for Tony Romo and this offense,

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's worked pretty good at times. But I don't

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>think that they're good together, and they got to make

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a change, and I think they will. And when you're

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>picking out of those two, you're sticking you're right, it's

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Well, first of all, our friend, our friend

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kavanaugh with the fan, which God bless the Cowboys

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's like the only team in the league where

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 1>like the owners and the general managers talk three times

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a week and the coach talks, so Jason get a

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of access. Jason Garrett had his interview this morning.

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Jones follows it up three hours later, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>no comment on anything with the coaching staff, but they

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>need to take a deep look at why they fell short.

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a little early to spec you about speculate about

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>players and coaches, which, yeah, it's never too earlier. It's

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>never too early. Let that's first of all. Yes, But

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hey, this is they they got to go

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>coach the Pro Bowl, which is like, I obviously, I'm

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>sure nobody with the Cowboys organization wants the Eagles in

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the NFC title game, but I wonder if maybe they were, like,

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it would be nice if the Saints could go coach

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>this Pro Bowl and let us take care of our stuff.

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So now no, let the Cowboys do their coachings. Yeah,

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what I mean. At the end of the

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.479
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day was happy. Yeah, now

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I could just enjoy the rest of the playoffs, like

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to worry about Like I really hate

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>this team. I prefaced it, but point being, it's it's

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 1>just kind of a weird situation. So I agree with Amber.

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think there's really much else Jason

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Garrett can say, because if he says anything else, then

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>there's even more speculation about his dead, lame duck offensive

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>coordinator that he basically just fired. So and Stephen can't

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>say that, by the way, Steven can say it more

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in that kind of way, and if he becomes news,

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 1>it becomes news. He doesn't have to go into the

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>coaches meeting room with like Jason does and then have

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to look the guy in the EU if he doesn't

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 1>happen to leave, right, which, so I weigh all of

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that at the same time, like, I think there's not

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot, So I don't believe I don't believe Garrett.

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that that means anything. But at the

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 1>same time, I wouldn't be surprised by any result, because

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>we all were sitting here last year saying the same stuff,

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>like we thought the whole freaking staff was gonna get

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>fired last year, and not only did that not happen,

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>but they elevated everybody stayed and got promotions too. So

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing would surprise me at this point. And I honestly

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>would be kind of surprised if they knew for sure.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're two days out of this thing, you know,

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what to think. I would not

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>be surprised if if Scotland Ahan came back. I would

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>not be surprised if he was replaced, I would I

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>would trend toward replacing him. I think twenty one points

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>per game. As much as much as they improved after

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Marii Cooper, it wasn't substantially they finished they scored They

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.640
<v Speaker 1>averaged twenty two points a game after they did that trade.

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I looked this up today. They scored thirty points in

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>three games, which ties them for like tenth worst in

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the league. Like, the only teams that did worse than

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that in terms of scoring points are all miserable, Like

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>they're bad bad teams. Do you guys give Lenahan the

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 1>offensive coaches any any leeway for the fact that there

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>were a couple things that would just kind of unexpected

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.959
<v Speaker 1>that hit them this year that they had to manage.

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>First being obviously they lost Jason Witten when they didn't

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:31.959
<v Speaker 1>expect Jason Witten was not going to be playing for them.

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Then they lost Travis Frederick when they didn't expect they

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>would be losing him. Do you give them any amount

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of leeway for that and say, well, maybe this was

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 1>just these were unforeseen circumstances. And for half the year

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a number one wide receiver, which I

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>don't think was was So I don't think that was

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>something that was I wouldn't put on the coaches. I

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 1>think that was a situation where they knew des wasn't

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be here. I think they didn't have the

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get a number one receiver. And wait, no, no,

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>listen to what I'm saying. Okay, they actually went out

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>in the in the off season and we're trying to

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>sign a number one wide receiver, which is questionable. I

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>know you and I've had this conversation as to whether

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>you really think he's a number one or not. But

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>the fact is they didn't get him, and so I

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>think they really just kind of said, this is what

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>we're left with we're gonna have to deal with it.

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll have to get a number one receiver next year,

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>so we just got to make it work. The opportunity

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>became available to get Cooper, that's when they get him.

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>All that being said, there's a lot of stuff there

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>that happened. Do you give him any leeway for that? No? Okay,

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I mean they deserve a ton of

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>credit for recognizing what was wrong. They went out and

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>got Amari Cooper. They put themselves in that hole. Whether

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the coaches are part of it, whether I don't care,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>like that's they spent all offseason selling that as like

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>they you know the guy the meme on Twitter where

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy taps his brain. They're like, Oh, we don't

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>need a number like they thought they were. We've talked

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>about that for doing. You think they really believe that,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>because I don't. I think they that was what they

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>were selling publicly. I don't think they really believe they

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't need a number one receiver. That all goes back

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to and I, you know, I get it in relationship

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and ships play a big part of that. But they

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to get rid of Dez Bryant. In their minds,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe they did. Maybe they thought that this was a

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>situation where he wasn't providing for they were getting in

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the weeds. Here we are. They didn't give it. I

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think that they set Jason Garrett up for failure,

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't give him the opportunities to go win.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>They really didn't that. They didn't replace Dez with anybody.

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>They didn't even use his money for anything. They had

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a chance to get Old Thomas, they decided to go

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>with the Connor Williams and play him. That just tells

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you how much you know they're gonna go with a

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>young team. They didn't do anything. They couldn't do anything

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>really at tied in when they lost Witt, and they

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't go get a veteran presence. The only reason they

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>got Cooper that I don't care what they say. They

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>did not say anything about turning this around. Every time

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you asked him, they said, he's twenty four. They got

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>this for the future, and someone else is going to

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>coach him. Well, lo and behold they make it turn around.

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>But I don't give him any pass for the offense

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>because they don't do the things they need to do

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to win. And this is a stat I told you

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>about earlier about Dak. I mean, they don't run him.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>When he runs, they have success. I went and looked

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>this up. When he gets two carries or less this year,

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>oh and four, when he gets four carries or less,

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>they're like one and five or something like that. And

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>then when he gets six or more, it's like ten

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and two. Run the ball with him. That's what he does.

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>He's an extra running back, so run him. That's what

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>he does. Use them to his strength. Okay, so do

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you think this last game at least I know that

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>this isn't for the whole season, but do you think

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>this last game at least them not using it maybe

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>has something to do with the knee? No? No, right,

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't look like he was having issues. And I'm

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>not saying it was it wasn't. I'm just saying that

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>this He was on the injury report this week, and

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>he did have a knee and he didn't run. There

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>was times where he was out there open and and

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you know about there to throw it, and he forced

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it in there and didn't run. There were some times

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>where he didn't run, of course, but and I'll believe

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that I would if if they had been running him

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>throughout the sea and using it that quality. But I

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>would not use anything that's right they like, I mean,

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>how many games were that was just a non factor.

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So no, and he's a freaking warrior anyway, So knee

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>or no knee, he would have done what needed to

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>be done. Going back to your other point, something something

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>unforeseen and crazy happens every year to every team. It's like,

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not an excuse. That's the NFL. The Atlanta Falcons

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>are probably sitting there right now saying, if we don't

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>lose Dion Jones and Keyan O'Neill for most of the season,

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>we're in the playoffs, like we had this great offense

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, Julio Ridley. But guess what, Yeah, you lose,

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you lose your two Pro Bowl defenders, and the whole

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>thing changes. Like that's that's the league. Uh So. And

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and Joe Looney played great in place of I mean

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>when that happened, I was like, this season sank fast.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I don't mean that as disrespect to

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Joe Looney, but Travis Frederick's a hard guy to replace.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought Joe Looney is one of the most unsung

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>success stories of the entire year. So no, I don't

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear that. Honestly. Yeah, they actually

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>got when you think about what you're saying, the guys

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>get hurt all the time. I mean when you think

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>about injuries, season ending stuff. I mean, the one to

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Frederick was was tough, but Looney stepped up and played well.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Hearns they lost Hearns way late in the year and

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't much of a factor anyways. I mean, they

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't really have those guys and we thought though when

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee went out, we thought her, here we go again,

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and then it actually opened the door for vander Estra

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>play as well as he did throughout the year. But

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a lot of those major injuries. But

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they were very lucky this year. And when

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you look at it, yes they didn't have a tight

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>end just overall with the talent they have, and yes

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the tight end position that was a problem, and then

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>having their number one wide receiver that was a problem.

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>But you're saying they were lucky to get to the

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>playoffs that I think she's saying they're lucky in terms

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of not a whole lot and having wrong for them

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>between the exactly when you look at things that could

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>have gone wrong as far as the people they have

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>on the whole team, whether it's on the defense or

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the ball, they have a lot of talent.

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of talent, and I think they

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>they could have done a lot more. And we saw

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the changes that happened once Amari got here. But even then,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things that had you done differently

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>coaching wise and like calling certain plays and stuff, you

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>could have done better and most likely we would be

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about the next game. I mean, let's I'm this

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>is all off the top of my head. Seventeen year

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>left tackle has his worst injury problems ever. Sean Lee.

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>You can kind of see that coming. So that doesn't

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>even count. Um Zeke, I mean Zeke's whole situation last year,

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>which when we went to when we went to training camp,

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that that that seemed like ludicrous to think that wasn't

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 1>even in the was not that was the thing. Like

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll straight up a minute, like people kind of like

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>people would tweet me and be like I'm hearing whispers

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that Zeke's in trouble and be like, what are you

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Nope, didn't see that coming in We were

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>shocked when we got the news, like what sixteen, but

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you lose your starting quarterback in the third preseason game.

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>They handled it beautifully, Still could didn't see it coming.

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could argue based on fifteen, which again

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>lose your starting quarterback in week two fourteen, Sean Lee

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a much younger Sean Lee gone before the season even starts.

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Thirteen And something happened in thirteen. If I had it,

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>happens every year, got hurt at the end of the year. Yeah,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that was all the way in Week sixteen though, but yeah,

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean it happened. Time to get hurt. Yeah, bad

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>time to get hurt, Tony, But right about that, Every

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>single year it happens to every single team, you know,

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people want to blame Garrett as well,

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Garrett Lenahan. I mean there's a lot more

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>angst towards Lenahan than than Garrett. But I mean this

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the youngest teams that has ever

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>made it to the playoffs. I mean, we saw that

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.919
<v Speaker 1>staff the other day out they don't have a starter

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 1>over thirty and it's the first time in what thirty

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>one years an NFL team made it to the playoffs

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>without a regular starter over thirty I mean that's that

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>just goes to show what kind of young team this is.

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it was impressive what they did and turn

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>things around again. I don't think if Dak is your guy,

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this offense is the right for him.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>And no disrespect to Lenahan, He's been a good coach

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>over over his time as an offensive coordinator, but not

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in this setting. They need something different better than need

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>something fresh. And I just do not believe he will

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>be back. There's no way you can do it, and

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Well is not going to tolerate it. They will they

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>He'll tolerate it, but you'll tolerate It's sorrycause you don't

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>have any choice at the end of the day that

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the fans can't make the call. If the fans can

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>make the call, a lot of things would be different,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.919
<v Speaker 1>but they can't. I agree with everything you just said,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>except I cannot rule out the possibility that nothing changes

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>because of everything you just said. Turn around from three

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and five too. You know, they finish eleven and seven,

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>they make the playoffs, they win a playoff game, No

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>starters under thirty, third youngest team in the league. Damn

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>near every important piece coming back. I can see not balanced.

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>You'd you had to lean on your defense, which in

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>your defense got got gashed game over, season over. You

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>saw that twice here and in both those situations they

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>were not even come their offense and never really carried

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>them once, not once a game. Maybe I mean Jacksonville,

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 1>but the defense played great in that, maybe the Giants

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 1>game when you know, but the defense failed you twice. Yeah,

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>like legitimately failed you twice this year, and they got

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>drummed in those games. Allow me to clarify. Allow me

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to clarify. I am not making that argument. I do

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>not believe what I'm saying, but I have to say

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in the hypothetical in the art, in the scenario I'm

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>imagining where Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones are having this discourse.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>This is what Jason Garrett is saying. He's like, look

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>what we did with the team we had will only

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.399
<v Speaker 1>be better. I don't believe that, but I can see

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the argument. You're right about the Pro Bowl. This this

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>has to be better add for them because without terrible

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.359
<v Speaker 1>time coaching the Pro Bowl, without it. You do things

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>what you want to do, and you don't have a timetable,

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and when you have to make it, they can immediately

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>start actually doing the reevaluations of what went wrong, what

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>went right, and making that Now you have to make

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the call, is this guy going with us or not? Yea,

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>which and even if he goes with you, that doesn't

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 1>mean that it doesn't just puts everything off right. Scott

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Linahan could see he could go out and spend the

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>week in Orlando and coach the Pro Bowl and talk

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to every media member that's out there, and it doesn't

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>mean anything to me. It doesn't like, it doesn't mean

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:36.959
<v Speaker 1>anything until probably yeah if after the like, if nothing

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>has changed a week after the Super bowls over, then

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>then I start to think, like, Okay, this is just

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>where we're at. Dave and I are going to have

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>some fun conversations. I think when you're in Mobile and

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>there's Steven, Yeah, I'm going to talk to Stephen and

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna take what we get from him and

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 1>run it over to Yeah, to Jason Yeah, and that'll

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>be interesting. I'll tell you who I'm not gonna go

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a fun week. I'm not going up to

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Rod Marinelli and asking him about and we'll talk about

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>that a little bit later. Real quick before we go

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 1>to break, though, I do want to ask you guys

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>about Kellen Moore because you were talking about how this

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator may not be the best for Dak. Does

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the question also come up? Is this quarterback coach to

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>an experience? And we've talked about that throughout the season.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that one of the coaching positions where you look

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>at it and you say, maybe there needs to be

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 1>some evaluation here on whether he's the right fit at

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>this moment. And I always want to be careful of

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>saying that doesn't mean I don't think at some point

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore can be a great quarterbacks coach, head coach,

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever he's gonna aspire to be. Just with the lack

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of experience, do you need more experience in that room

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>when you have no experience, well literally little experience with

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>all the quarterbacks that are actually in the room. Yeah, experience, Yeah,

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot, shoot a lot more experience. Honestly, this is

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>hard to say because we're not there to actually see

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>what is being taught and what it's not being taught.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, I have no feeling of just saying yes,

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I saw Kellen Moore do something this year, I can't

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>say that, And it's hard to evaluate that because of

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the game. We're not in the room and you know,

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>don't I saw something just the other day, for the

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>first time I had the binoculars on. That's one thing

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I could see was right across from me. After the

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.720
<v Speaker 1>whole it was a sack Lyell picked him up whatever

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever that that ruling was. They had to hold Kellen

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Moore back from the sidelines. He was like what, I

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know, going to charge the field and talk to

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the ref whatever they were holding him back, And I

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was just like, never seen that. I wish I would

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>have seen that. Yeah, I would like the most un

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean Garrett. Even Garrett was turned around like stop Kellen,

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>just calm down over here. He's like the most field

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>guy here, right. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>him with even like even Dak gets fired up during games,

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I've never seen Kellen Moore fire. All right, let's

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>take our final break. When we come back. I do

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>want to hit a little bit on that topic you

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>mentioned of of Rod Miranelli after the game, he was

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>not very happy with some of the questioning. We'll talk

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0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>out some news. The news is the Cowboys are covering

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>or coaching the problem. Okay, I'm not saying, hey, look

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>at this, Hey guys, Jason Garrett, what an accomplishment. The

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 1>way it worked, it's it's it's the way the league

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>sets it up. Okay, if you're the highest seeded team

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to lose in the divisional round, you coach the Pro Bowl.

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the way it is. If the Saints would have

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>lost day coaching. Oh. I made a comment on one

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 1>of my our persecope that I do with Brian. It's

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>like about Chris Ray Sharon getting some interviews for you know,

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the head coaching. Oh my god, this chick. She wanted

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 1>to kill him. It's just like, you're so stupid. You

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know what you're talking about. Like he's staying here.

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, dude, I'm just informing you of what is

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 1>going on. This is just news that time of year. Man. Definitely, Oh,

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you should just hear the stuff, like, well, it's the

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>only time he'll be coaching in February. I think the

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowls even in February. Whatever, But no, I hear

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you any right, Marinelli after the game in our interesting

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>setup to get postgame interviews, rot Melon sounds like me

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 1>was he was. He was not very pleased. There was

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a question that came from the media that basically was

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>asking him if if to talk about a report that

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>had come out that he was possibly going to retire,

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and he basically said, look, don't don't put words in

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>my mouth. Come ask me about it. I'm telling you

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna retire. He and he even took offense

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to it. I think more because this is a situation

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>where this is probably him looking at it like I

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>know I'm older, but I'm still and he even mentioned,

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:20.919
<v Speaker 1>he said, when do you ever see me not having energy?

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 1>When do you ever see me not having you know,

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>being able to really motivate my guys. Don't just because

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm older. Don't make it seem like I'm I need

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to be put to passage. I think he was in

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the wrong, honestly, and how he handled that, and I

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I can you can say all you want to about

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>after a game, and you know it's not the right

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>time to ask him the question. But but my retort

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to that would be when is when is the right time?

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>You're not having any more press conferences. You sure weren't

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>outside the locker room yesterday when it was trash bag

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>day and everyone was leaving. You don't have another one?

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>What are we gonna wait till the Pro At that point,

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>we don't know if we're gonna have to be at

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl. So so there's a report out there,

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and he kept saying, ask me, ask me. It's exactly

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>what she was doing, the reporter, and I thought she

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>handled herself very very well. She said, you know, we

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>are asking you the question, and you've always been great

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to us. We're asking There was a report and I

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is true or not. No one knows.

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>The NFL network is reporting it, so it's worth asking.

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I mean, he's sixty nine years always

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>turning seventy. That doesn't mean anything. It's just asking the

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 1>question about this report. And he he was mad because

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>they gave up two hundred and seventy three rushing cards

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and he and I'm not I'm not faulting him. I'm

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>just saying I thought they did their job and it

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 1>just was sure he had a lot of emotions. Yeah's

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>at that time. It's the it's the age. It's the

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>age old conundra. And I mean, we got a job

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to do. It's important and you outlined it perfectly, like

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>well within your right to ask the question. But it's

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 1>just one of my least favorite things to do. It's

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a tough part of the job, especially in the playoffs.

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the third playoff loss that I've had to

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>go in there and be part of that, and it's

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it always sucks. Fourteen at Lambeau after the death, that

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was the worst one in my worst I mean, I've

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>never seen Jason Witton like Jason Witten was barking at

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>people just and you know, you start working towards this

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>goal in February and then it just screeches to us.

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be one of the worst feelings in

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the world. Yeah. Tyron Crawford was like, it's exactly as

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>difficult as I remember it being, and that like that

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>resonated with me. I was like, yeah, I bet it is.

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>So it's just a crappy situation because we I mean,

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a fair question, but I get that he's not

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>exactly in the mood to answer it. And do you

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>guys think that happens? This is also about the fact

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that all season he's heard the rumblings because everybody's talking

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 1>about it. Chris Shark, Christopher Shark, Christopher Shark. He needs

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to be the defensive coordinator, Christopher Shark. Do you think

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:45.839
<v Speaker 1>that maybe this is a part of that boiling over

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 1>that he's like, why why, why are you guys trying

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to push me out of the door. I'm not It's

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>not like I'm not doing my job well and defense

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 1>that's playing really well. I still am the defense. I'm

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>speaking at him, I still am the defensive coordinat of this.

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I may not call them place, but no, not me.

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I got that game. I didn't call that game. Maybe

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>some of the others. I didn't call that one. But

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's maybe that's a part of it for him,

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>at least that he still is the defensive coordinator and

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>he still is running this Here's what Then, the ironic

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>part of this is that when he got here, he

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>was also the defensive coordinator without the title. If you remember,

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Monnie Kiffin was here as the coordinator, but Mayeronelli was

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 1>also doing But Marionelli probably does a lot more than

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>what Monny Kiffin was doing. True, I'm just saying, but yes,

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that this stab there. Yes, well, I mean,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>but they have to make a decision. I mean there's

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>teams that want Christopher Shard and now just and people

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>ask this question, do they don't understand this rule? And

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I just want to get this part out. He is

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a he is the passing game coordinator, secondary coach. You

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 1>can't block anybody from saying, hey, come be your interview

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>for a head coach. But nobody can say, hey, I

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 1>want you to be our defense. It's a coordinator and

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>think they're giving him a promotion that doesn't work. The

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>only time the Cowboys have to let him interview for

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>anything is a head coach. So I've heard that. I've

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>got tweets from that, like what if somebody needs a

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator that doesn't work, doesn't matter. If you're a

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>quality control coach and they want to move you up

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 1>four levels, you can't do it unless it's a head

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like all the head coaching positions that

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:23.800
<v Speaker 1>he had interviewed for and taken. There's still waiting of

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins have not made a final, but they are

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>why they're waiting, supposedly waiting for It's like New England.

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 1>As far as I understand, it's like a rubber stamp deal.

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Brian Flores. They're still in so obviously they wouldn't make

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>him their head coach until they were out right I will.

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think part of this too. There was a report,

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but Rod said with his own mouth before the game,

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 1>he's I think the direct quote was like, I'll do

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever we have to do to keep Richard here, which

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so, what does that mean? You're going to

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.240
<v Speaker 1>change titles, You're going to retire. So that just adds

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to the speculation. Although I don't think we really need

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to speculate at this point because I think every head

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>coaching job is filled, but I think will happen. Oh

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you're right, Okay, well Cincinnati's waiting on the Rams guy. Yes,

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 1>so you got two positions open, but it's widely speculated

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 1>that both those positions are going to be filled by guys.

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I think, what if I had to guess, I think

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are going to take care of take care

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of Chris Richard one way or the other. Guess so,

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have to worry about it anymore. Well,

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>what I think will happen is somebody's going to be

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the assistant head coach. Not that that really matters, but

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that that I think that title

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if it'll be him or if

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 1>it might be Marinelli. Is the assistance I actually I

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>disagree with you. I think it absolutely matters to Chris

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Richard when it comes time for him to interview again,

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>well next year or in two years or whenever, right,

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because if I was about to tell you

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>our receiver coach, Jimmy Something, I can't even remember his name.

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>His name was Jimmy Something, and he was our assistant

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>head coach. And that just goes to show just how

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>much I mean, just a few years ago, just just

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to kind of make it work. It doesn't always matter,

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>but I think it would matter to Chris just to

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>have the title, to take that to an interview and

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>say I've done this, I've had this responsibility. Maybe Rod's

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the assistant head it's it's possible difference one way or

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that thing too. Like as the assistant head coach, does

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>that allow him the opportunity to address the team at

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>different times as Jason say, Okay today, you're going to

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 1>be the one. Oh I like that, but I'm just

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.919
<v Speaker 1>like that. But my point is like there are things

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that I'm sure Jason can do to help prepare him

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.399
<v Speaker 1>for a head coaching job that that may be something

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.359
<v Speaker 1>that they can sweep in the potta pre staying we're

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna give you some opportunities. Well some things

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that I hear right I can hear the applause from

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 1>our listeners right now at that that right there, that

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>might have made someone I mean, you got and they haven't,

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 1>they haven't smile since Saturday, But that made you gotta

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>be careful when that happens, because because that was happening.

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jason Garrett was getting groomed to be the

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 1>next head coach. I remember exactly grooming him. Remember where

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I was standing in that corner of that long hallway

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that leads down to scouting. I was standing there thinking

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 1>this is going to end in an odd way because

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 1>if he is supposed to be the coach. What fires

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett? Is it gonna be lack of offense. I mean,

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a just bad defense. I mean it's

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really weird to fire him and bring Garrett in.

0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>And it was, and it happened, and I don't say

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it worked, but I'm just saying next year football is

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>really weird that way because start, you know, this will

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it'll all get settled. They'll sign their free agents and

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>their draft picks. But and like in March and April,

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>this this team will be whole, and Jason Garrett can

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>start his team meetings and they're gonna all start pulling

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>in one direction and rowing the boat boat towards the

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, another season. But real quick at this time

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>of year, when it's all over, the knives come out

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's every man for himself. I mean, you know,

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:50.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like musical chairs, Jason, They're there's only gonna be one.

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Like somebody's gonna get left out. Jason Garrett is probably

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 1>not right now, but just in the long like Jason

0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Garrett's got a side eye at Chris Rahard like that's

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I see you over there, and you know, and Cole

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Cole Beasley's like I'm getting the hell out of here,

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like or you know, and I mean this is all hypothetical,

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>but just it's it's every man for himself when the

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:11.399
<v Speaker 1>season's over, and then he takes a couple of months

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and reorganized this team. Like you know, you can always

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>tell like what guys what they leave behind. It's suggesting

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:20.400
<v Speaker 1>how much they expect to be back on. Yeah, right,

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Remember like Bryce Butler last year took the cake in

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of just he's like deuces, I'm gone, and you

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 1>know there's he's in the team picture this year. Yeah,

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>well yeah, ironically he wasn't. Arm Hey, when when can

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I know it was him? Can I ask a question?

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 1>When can I talk about Earl Thomas again? Okay, talk

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 1>about Earl Thomas. We'll give you about five minutes. We

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>got the left on the show talk about old Thomas. Well,

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Christopher Shard being here would help. Um, I

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>think And so do you really think that he is

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a target for the Cowboys this offseason? I think he

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:54.319
<v Speaker 1>should be. Um, I don't know that's that wasn't my question.

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you think will be? Yeah, okay, I think he

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.959
<v Speaker 1>should be. Um. You know I do think he would.

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.919
<v Speaker 1>You've been thinking he should be for a long time. Yeah. Well,

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean you know, you always remember the last game,

0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and I mean Xavier Woods and Jeff Heath they played

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty well this year. They didn't play a great game

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>at the end. I mean nobody did on defense, nobody

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>had a great game. But I think you can see

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<v Speaker 1>just a guy that can make some kind of play,

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 1>get an interception, you know, catch a tip ball, do

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>do something, have some leadership there. And he said he

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be here. I think he still does. I

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 1>think Christoph Shard would help with that. Now, is he

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna come back from the injury? Well, I think it

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>might lawer his price a little bit. I would do it.

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I would do it in a heartbeat. I you know what,

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:41.560
<v Speaker 1>he could be the Charles Haley to this team. I

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:43.360
<v Speaker 1>really believe. I mean, think about it. You had a

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.240
<v Speaker 1>good young team, but they need somebody. And I'm sorry

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 1>to Marcus Lawrence. I love to Marcus Lawrence, but you

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>need to play better than that in the game, with

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the game on the line, You've got to be better

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>than that. Yeah, the interesting thing about that is you

0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>need It's some some games that you'll come across, playoff

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 1>games tend to be like that sometimes where you need somebody.

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Everybody on the team is kind of looking for somebody

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna step up and be that spark. And that's

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>when I saw somebody to tweet this. I think it

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:14.400
<v Speaker 1>was I want to say it was Patrick Crayton, but

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:18.360
<v Speaker 1>but just basically saying this is right now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. He was talking about this during the game.

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 1>This is the moment where you make the money. And

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>he was talking specifically about about Tank because that's when

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<v Speaker 1>when you start talking about whether you're gonna get that

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 1>long term deal or not and how much that long

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 1>term deal is going to be. Those guys that get

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that premium dollar long term, they're typically the guys that

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in those kind of moments make the players that need

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 1>to be made. That sparked the entire team, we can

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>do this and come back. And who got the game

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:46.399
<v Speaker 1>ball for the Rams Whitworth Well, it was one of them. Yeah,

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean he got one of their game balls. I mean,

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and again I say that because I viewed Tank as

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the leader, and he is and I would resign him

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 1>in a heartbeat. All that I'm just saying, But I

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.359
<v Speaker 1>could said the same thing to Sean, to Sean Lee,

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith, vander esch Mighter played his worst game and

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.399
<v Speaker 1>we've seen in a while. I mean, Byron Jones wasn't

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 1>playing well. That penalty Tiki tack penalty in my opinion,

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but that to me was probably one of the biggest

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:12.800
<v Speaker 1>plays of the game. I agree with that. That was

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a huge play. Thirteen to seven, You're about to finally

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:17.799
<v Speaker 1>force him to punt, and next thing you know, two

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>plays it's twenty to seven. That changed everything. That the

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas conversation, this this I want to write about

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 1>this this week, but it's always tricky because everybody wants

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:30.399
<v Speaker 1>to know what's next. And I'm like sitting there like, yeah,

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 1>making some great points about Earl, and then I'm like,

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:36.800
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do with Tank, what's gonna happen here in

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a month and a half, and I'll lower his his

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 1>uh you know average, we're definitely saying he's getting this extension.

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I would I wouldn't. I didn't ask you that. Yes,

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I think they are. Yes, I think they sign him

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to an exten will it get done in a timely manner?

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.879
<v Speaker 1>And that is important because the which I mean they're

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna tag him, they have to, and they're going to

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 1>get an extension done between now and February whatever. I

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 1>think the deadline to tag is February, probably mid February

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the odd I've never seen an extension get done that

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>quickly after a season, not for this, unless they already

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>had it done. I think they will. But that's true,

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>which it's totally possible, it's so, and that My point

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>is just that there's so many dominoes that have to

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>fall into place before I can even think about signing

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a Earl Thomas or anybody else for that, and if

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 1>they go to have a ton of room though, if

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 1>they got a lot of money to be able to spend,

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>if they go to de Marcus and say, listen, we're

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna get we want to sign you. Let's be fair

0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>let's get this thing done. But we need you to

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 1>get this thing done so we can do other things

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and sign other people. I think he would do that

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>as long as it's not completely unfair. I mean he'll

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>he'll make it fair, but he'll do it in a

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:43.560
<v Speaker 1>timely manner so they can go do things. He's a

0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>team guy. Do you think it hurts him at all

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that his numbers weren't as high as they were last year?

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Number one and number two, that when he came to

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the playoff game they at least this one against the

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Ram It didn't that he didn't hurt the All Pro

0:57:56.920 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 1>voters from making him a second team All Pro. Right,

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 1>get all that. I'm just saying, do you think that,

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 1>but you do not negotiation? You do not negotiations go right.

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>That's I think that affects the negotiation. With all due

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 1>respect to both of y'all, I think y'all are kind

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of trying to gloss this thing over, and I'm not

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 1>convinced that it's going to be that easy. Because when

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you say, when you say not that he's you're saying

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that you think there's a chance that they franchise him

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and they go into next year with him franchised or

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 1>or I mean they might, they absolutely might franchise him

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>with the intention of signing him later this year, and

0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe DeMarcus says, screw you guys, I like I'm not

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming in. I'm not gonna make this easy

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:34.480
<v Speaker 1>on you like I did last year. Like it could

0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>be a death situation where the deal ultimately gets done.

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 1>But we don't see DeMarcus Lawrence until August. And I

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know anything, but you know, you just

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 1>outlined it perfectly. He's got these stats, he's got these

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 1>all pro votes, he's got this and that. He's also

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 1>got a no show in a playoff game, and well,

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you didn't do anything down the second half of this,

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>as I wonder when the when the two sides eventually

0:58:56.720 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 1>sit down, how close are they really and how much

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.800
<v Speaker 1>money is DeMarcus asking for? But here's the deal. If

0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you just if you just franchise him again, Let's say

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>he goes and signs it again. Now it's going to

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 1>be twenty million dollars twenty million for the for him

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that at least like that. That doesn't I'm not practical,

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna yearse it. The Rams franchise Donald. Was it

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 1>three before they finally did a deal? Was it just two?

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember, off it had one. I think it

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>was two. I think he started holding out after the

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Are you sure fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen, I don't think.

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think they tried. This was the second year.

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they even franchised him at all, because

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he was a fourteen pick, so fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 1>this would have been his fifth season, which is covered

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 1>under his rookie deal. I don't think they franchised. He

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was just holding out because because he was like, I'm

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 1>playing like a stud and I want better money than

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>He's only one case in point, Zeke Elliott could do

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 1>something similar. That's there's a lot of stuff. I mean,

0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>this team is set up really well. But the question

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 1>does I'm back to the last taste that they had.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure didn't necessary, doesn't necessarily inspire you to say you

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 1>need a deal right now? But do you look do

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<v Speaker 1>you really just focus on that last week negotiating? Yes? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>just no, no, no, I'm not saying just but it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a part of the negotiation, that's the way it does.

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<v Speaker 1>But you look at it as an overall too. You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're speaking from a standpoint of of what the same

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<v Speaker 1>argument is. If you're if you're not on one side

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<v Speaker 1>or the other, if you're on one side or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>you take whatever is an advantage for you in a negotiation,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what you harp on. So I'm sure the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys would be if they were in that type of conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>they would say, Hey, man, we just don't know if

1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>if we're ready to spend that kind of money. We

1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen the consistency in the playoffs that helps us

1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:46.040
<v Speaker 1>get there. Right, how about to negotiate? How about the

1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:49.120
<v Speaker 1>single most underpaid player in the NFL right now, Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott, that's an interesting one. I watched and if

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be going that one, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody paid early. Then you probably think it may

1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 1>be your quarterback. A lot to talk about this, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, before we say bye, I have someone asking

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, what's our schedule gonna be like for the show? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we will let you guys know. There's basically for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of this week, each show will do one more

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<v Speaker 1>show this week. We'll let you know what day it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be. And then starting next year, next week we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go into our offseason schedule, which will be one podcast

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<v Speaker 1>per day. Every show will do one show each week,

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<v Speaker 1>so we will be let's say, for example, on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>or Wednesday or whatever it is. But we'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>that schedule, we'll put it out here in the coming days.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be able to let you guys know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back all right till then, For Dick, even

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Helmet, amber Garcia, I'm Derek Hipilson. This has been

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