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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Wait

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Speaker 1: Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, January fourteenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number one hundred and twelve. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of The Break. We are live from s WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 1: Studios at the Star. And yeah, it's one of those days.

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Speaker 1: It's that day following the playoffs, following a playoff loss

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Speaker 1: when everything just kind of comes crashing to a halt.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys loose to the Rams thirty to twenty two out

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Speaker 1: in LA. And we're gonna break down for you guys

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Speaker 1: for the next hour what we think happened in that game,

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Speaker 1: why the Cowboys are now sitting outside the playoffs. We

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Speaker 1: might can get into a little bit of talk on

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Speaker 1: some I don't know if it was news, but something

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett had to say this morning about the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: which I think it's a big topic right now for fans.

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Speaker 1: But let's start first with that game and let's go

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Speaker 1: around the table. I know there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that went wrong for the Cowboys. I want each

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Speaker 1: of you to tell me which do you think What

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Speaker 1: do you think was the biggest problem for Dallas in

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Speaker 1: the game against the Rams. Let's start with you, Nick. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal everyone's then and say that they couldn't

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Speaker 1: stop the run. That was the biggest problem. And they

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Speaker 1: obviously couldn't run the ball, but they couldn't stop the

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, as good as they played all year,

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Speaker 1: they did not show up in that game. And that's

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Speaker 1: too bad because it was a great opportunity for them

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Speaker 1: to really show what kind of hot boys that they

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Speaker 1: were and have been all year. And they didn't stop

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Speaker 1: the run. They didn't even touch golf at all. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't get any pressure. And it was brought to my attention.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if I believe this first drive

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Speaker 1: aggressiveness a little bit. I mean, it seemed like a

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Speaker 1: that as well to the linebackers too. Up. The whole

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Speaker 1: front seven kind of no showed in this game. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked a lot before the game about misdirection and

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Speaker 1: pre snap motion and all the you know, the play

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Speaker 1: fakes the Rams like to use. And they did it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm positive the Cowboys spent the whole week preparing

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Speaker 1: for it, but man, it didn't look like it. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't get pressure on golf, they couldn't stop the run.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and Layton vander esh looked like first and

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Speaker 1: second year players for the first time all season. Really. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not a good game by really anybody in the front seven,

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Speaker 1: although I will I mean, and certainly that's the story

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Speaker 1: one of ten on third down, especially as good as

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Speaker 1: they've been since they traded for Amari Cooper. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the stat in front of me, but

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Speaker 1: two things that really stand out to me. Okay, amber

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Speaker 1: Well again, just to run overall both team, one that

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Speaker 1: forty seven of them being Zeke. The fact that we've

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Speaker 1: seen this happen before, to where as soon as defenses

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Speaker 1: really find the answers of how to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: And Dak, I thought he threw the ball a few times.

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Speaker 1: He had some nice shots there, but it just wasn't enough.

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Speaker 1: what did they say? They said, we've been facing eight

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Speaker 1: nine men fronts. Zeke said, we've been facing eight men

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Speaker 1: eight nine men fronts until it since I've been here.

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Speaker 1: My thought is, if if that's what they knew, and

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Speaker 1: if that's what they always said, we can still run

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Speaker 1: against that, are we starting to see now and I

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Speaker 1: That could maybe press the issue when team said we're

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Speaker 1: been shown they cannot do that with how they were

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Speaker 1: and they have not adjusted to that fact. It's not

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Speaker 1: And again, there are certain plays that happened throughout the

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Speaker 1: run it right at you, yell, and you know what

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they were horrible by any

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Speaker 1: it's something as simple, how about motioning your wide receiver

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Speaker 1: all year. And straight up they thought, or I don't

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Speaker 1: because Senior Bowl starts up next week. Here. We keep

428
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: people of people all day yesterday We're like, we're gonna

429
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Speaker 1: miss you guys. No, they were like we're gonna miss

430
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Speaker 1: all y'all, Like well everything, you know. I'm like, we're

431
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Raft Show starts Thursday, Senior Bowls Monday.

432
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm Cowboys are coaching in the Pro Bowl. So I'm

433
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: positive somebody's going to that, no doubt that. You Yep, awesome,

434
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Yeah. So there's I mean, there will

435
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: be stuff obviously. That's the NFL. It all flips over

436
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: so fast. We are literally a month and a week

437
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: I think from the combine. So this thing starts over

438
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: and it gets moving. The NFL has done I think

439
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: they're idiots about a lot of things, but they have

440
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: done a masterful job of making sure that they're never

441
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Speaker 1: out of the spotlight ever. Yeah. So anyway, all right,

442
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: so let's let's talk about this. This comment that Jason

443
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Speaker 1: Garrett made on a radio program that he in radio

444
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: interview he had a little earlier this morning. He was

445
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Speaker 1: talking to the guys over at one or five out

446
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: three the fan here in Dallas, and he mentioned he

447
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,959
Speaker 1: was asked about coach Lenahan and said that his expectation

448
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: is that coach Lenahan will be back. My question for

449
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Speaker 1: you guys is do you think that is accurate? And

450
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Speaker 1: if yes or no, tell me if you think it's

451
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Speaker 1: the right thing. Let's start with you Amber. Well, first

452
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Speaker 1: of all, I believe that's what he should say as

453
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Speaker 1: a head coach. I mean, right now, given the situation,

454
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: what else could you possibly say. You don't necessarily call

455
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Speaker 1: all the shots. You know, you have to have meetings

456
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: and talk to the managers and the family and all

457
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: that stuff and then have it figure it out. But

458
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: should he be back, Um, probably not. And it just

459
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: breaks my heart because there's a difference, like the thing

460
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Speaker 1: is decides to be nice. No no, no, no no.

461
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Speaker 1: It breaks my heart because we see these people if

462
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: we talk to them right right, and and then you

463
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Speaker 1: know they're nice people. Lenahan, it's such a nice guy,

464
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: always a smile on his face, is very polite, very respectful.

465
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Speaker 1: But then you have to put that aside and look

466
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Speaker 1: at the business part of it and see how this

467
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: season turned out. And as far as that, and we

468
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: talked about the relationship with the quarterback, the quarterback is

469
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: not changing. Dak is not going anywhere. I don't think

470
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Speaker 1: so at least so that that would be the biggest

471
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: change that you have to make is change the offensive coordinator.

472
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: Dak needs somebody else that could really get the full

473
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Speaker 1: potential out of him, and I don't think the best

474
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Speaker 1: match is Lenahan. He's not coming back. I'm that's just

475
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Speaker 1: gonna That's just what I believe one hundred percent. I

476
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Speaker 1: just don't think he will be the offensive coordinator. I

477
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Speaker 1: don't care what Garrett said. I know Stephen Jones has

478
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Speaker 1: said something here recently in the last which that that

479
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Speaker 1: kind of helps my point a little bit, and he

480
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Speaker 1: kind of answered it differently, and I think it's more important.

481
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Speaker 1: Sorry Jason, but I think what Steven says is more

482
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Speaker 1: important than Jason, because I think they ultimately will make

483
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Speaker 1: that decision. Um. I just don't think there's any way,

484
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Speaker 1: and I've said this in fairness, Scott, I don't believe

485
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Speaker 1: Dak is a great quarterback for his system. What he

486
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Speaker 1: calls open sometimes is not what Dak is. His strong

487
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: suit is. I don't think they're a good marriage together,

488
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: and I think that it's time to go because he

489
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 1: has called some plays this year that should have been

490
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: better plays and they're not. It's just a different This

491
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Speaker 1: system was supposed to be for Tony Romo and this offense,

492
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Speaker 1: and it's worked pretty good at times. But I don't

493
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Speaker 1: think that they're good together, and they got to make

494
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Speaker 1: a change, and I think they will. And when you're

495
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Speaker 1: picking out of those two, you're sticking you're right, it's

496
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Speaker 1: a lot. Well, first of all, our friend, our friend

497
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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh with the fan, which God bless the Cowboys

498
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: because it's like the only team in the league where

499
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Speaker 1: like the owners and the general managers talk three times

500
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Speaker 1: a week and the coach talks, so Jason get a

501
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Speaker 1: lot of access. Jason Garrett had his interview this morning.

502
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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones follows it up three hours later, and he says,

503
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Speaker 1: no comment on anything with the coaching staff, but they

504
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: need to take a deep look at why they fell short.

505
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Speaker 1: It's a little early to spec you about speculate about

506
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Speaker 1: players and coaches, which, yeah, it's never too earlier. It's

507
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Speaker 1: never too early. Let that's first of all. Yes, But

508
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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, this is they they got to go

509
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Speaker 1: coach the Pro Bowl, which is like, I obviously, I'm

510
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: sure nobody with the Cowboys organization wants the Eagles in

511
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Speaker 1: the NFC title game, but I wonder if maybe they were, like,

512
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Speaker 1: it would be nice if the Saints could go coach

513
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Speaker 1: this Pro Bowl and let us take care of our stuff.

514
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Speaker 1: So now no, let the Cowboys do their coachings. Yeah,

515
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: that's that's what I mean. At the end of the

516
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the day was happy. Yeah, now

517
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I could just enjoy the rest of the playoffs, like

518
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Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about Like I really hate

519
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Speaker 1: this team. I prefaced it, but point being, it's it's

520
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: just kind of a weird situation. So I agree with Amber.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there's really much else Jason

522
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Speaker 1: Garrett can say, because if he says anything else, then

523
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Speaker 1: there's even more speculation about his dead, lame duck offensive

524
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Speaker 1: coordinator that he basically just fired. So and Stephen can't

525
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Speaker 1: say that, by the way, Steven can say it more

526
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Speaker 1: in that kind of way, and if he becomes news,

527
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Speaker 1: it becomes news. He doesn't have to go into the

528
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Speaker 1: coaches meeting room with like Jason does and then have

529
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Speaker 1: to look the guy in the EU if he doesn't

530
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: happen to leave, right, which, so I weigh all of

531
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Speaker 1: that at the same time, like, I think there's not

532
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Speaker 1: a lot, So I don't believe I don't believe Garrett.

533
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that that means anything. But at the

534
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Speaker 1: same time, I wouldn't be surprised by any result, because

535
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: we all were sitting here last year saying the same stuff,

536
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: like we thought the whole freaking staff was gonna get

537
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: fired last year, and not only did that not happen,

538
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: but they elevated everybody stayed and got promotions too. So

539
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: nothing would surprise me at this point. And I honestly

540
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: would be kind of surprised if they knew for sure.

541
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're two days out of this thing, you know,

542
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: so I don't know what to think. I would not

543
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: be surprised if if Scotland Ahan came back. I would

544
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: not be surprised if he was replaced, I would I

545
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: would trend toward replacing him. I think twenty one points

546
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: per game. As much as much as they improved after

547
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper, it wasn't substantially they finished they scored They

548
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: averaged twenty two points a game after they did that trade.

549
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: I looked this up today. They scored thirty points in

550
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: three games, which ties them for like tenth worst in

551
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: the league. Like, the only teams that did worse than

552
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: that in terms of scoring points are all miserable, Like

553
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: they're bad bad teams. Do you guys give Lenahan the

554
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: offensive coaches any any leeway for the fact that there

555
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: were a couple things that would just kind of unexpected

556
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 1: that hit them this year that they had to manage.

557
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: First being obviously they lost Jason Witten when they didn't

558
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 1: expect Jason Witten was not going to be playing for them.

559
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: Then they lost Travis Frederick when they didn't expect they

560
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: would be losing him. Do you give them any amount

561
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: of leeway for that and say, well, maybe this was

562
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: just these were unforeseen circumstances. And for half the year

563
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: they didn't have a number one wide receiver, which I

564
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: don't think was was So I don't think that was

565
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: something that was I wouldn't put on the coaches. I

566
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: think that was a situation where they knew des wasn't

567
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: going to be here. I think they didn't have the

568
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: opportunity to get a number one receiver. And wait, no, no,

569
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying. Okay, they actually went out

570
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: in the in the off season and we're trying to

571
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: sign a number one wide receiver, which is questionable. I

572
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: know you and I've had this conversation as to whether

573
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: you really think he's a number one or not. But

574
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: the fact is they didn't get him, and so I

575
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: think they really just kind of said, this is what

576
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: we're left with we're gonna have to deal with it.

577
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: We'll have to get a number one receiver next year,

578
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: so we just got to make it work. The opportunity

579
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: became available to get Cooper, that's when they get him.

580
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: All that being said, there's a lot of stuff there

581
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: that happened. Do you give him any leeway for that? No? Okay,

582
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: First of all, I mean they deserve a ton of

583
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: credit for recognizing what was wrong. They went out and

584
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: got Amari Cooper. They put themselves in that hole. Whether

585
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: the coaches are part of it, whether I don't care,

586
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: like that's they spent all offseason selling that as like

587
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: they you know the guy the meme on Twitter where

588
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: the guy taps his brain. They're like, Oh, we don't

589
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: need a number like they thought they were. We've talked

590
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: about that for doing. You think they really believe that,

591
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: because I don't. I think they that was what they

592
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: were selling publicly. I don't think they really believe they

593
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: didn't need a number one receiver. That all goes back

594
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: to and I, you know, I get it in relationship

595
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: and ships play a big part of that. But they

596
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't have to get rid of Dez Bryant. In their minds,

597
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: maybe they did. Maybe they thought that this was a

598
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: situation where he wasn't providing for they were getting in

599
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: the weeds. Here we are. They didn't give it. I

600
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: don't think that they set Jason Garrett up for failure,

601
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: but they didn't give him the opportunities to go win.

602
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: They really didn't that. They didn't replace Dez with anybody.

603
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: They didn't even use his money for anything. They had

604
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: a chance to get Old Thomas, they decided to go

605
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: with the Connor Williams and play him. That just tells

606
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: you how much you know they're gonna go with a

607
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: young team. They didn't do anything. They couldn't do anything

608
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: really at tied in when they lost Witt, and they

609
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: didn't go get a veteran presence. The only reason they

610
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: got Cooper that I don't care what they say. They

611
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: did not say anything about turning this around. Every time

612
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: you asked him, they said, he's twenty four. They got

613
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: this for the future, and someone else is going to

614
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: coach him. Well, lo and behold they make it turn around.

615
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: But I don't give him any pass for the offense

616
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: because they don't do the things they need to do

617
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: to win. And this is a stat I told you

618
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: about earlier about Dak. I mean, they don't run him.

619
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: When he runs, they have success. I went and looked

620
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: this up. When he gets two carries or less this year,

621
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: oh and four, when he gets four carries or less,

622
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: they're like one and five or something like that. And

623
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: then when he gets six or more, it's like ten

624
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: and two. Run the ball with him. That's what he does.

625
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: He's an extra running back, so run him. That's what

626
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: he does. Use them to his strength. Okay, so do

627
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: you think this last game at least I know that

628
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: this isn't for the whole season, but do you think

629
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: this last game at least them not using it maybe

630
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: has something to do with the knee? No? No, right,

631
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: he didn't look like he was having issues. And I'm

632
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: not saying it was it wasn't. I'm just saying that

633
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: this He was on the injury report this week, and

634
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: he did have a knee and he didn't run. There

635
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: was times where he was out there open and and

636
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: you know about there to throw it, and he forced

637
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: it in there and didn't run. There were some times

638
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: where he didn't run, of course, but and I'll believe

639
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: that I would if if they had been running him

640
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Speaker 1: throughout the sea and using it that quality. But I

641
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: would not use anything that's right they like, I mean,

642
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: how many games were that was just a non factor.

643
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: So no, and he's a freaking warrior anyway, So knee

644
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: or no knee, he would have done what needed to

645
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: be done. Going back to your other point, something something

646
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: unforeseen and crazy happens every year to every team. It's like,

647
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: it's not an excuse. That's the NFL. The Atlanta Falcons

648
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: are probably sitting there right now saying, if we don't

649
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: lose Dion Jones and Keyan O'Neill for most of the season,

650
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: we're in the playoffs, like we had this great offense

651
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Julio Ridley. But guess what, Yeah, you lose,

652
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: you lose your two Pro Bowl defenders, and the whole

653
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: thing changes. Like that's that's the league. Uh So. And

654
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: and Joe Looney played great in place of I mean

655
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: when that happened, I was like, this season sank fast.

656
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't mean that as disrespect to

657
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Joe Looney, but Travis Frederick's a hard guy to replace.

658
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: I thought Joe Looney is one of the most unsung

659
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: success stories of the entire year. So no, I don't

660
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. Honestly. Yeah, they actually

661
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: got when you think about what you're saying, the guys

662
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: get hurt all the time. I mean when you think

663
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: about injuries, season ending stuff. I mean, the one to

664
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: Frederick was was tough, but Looney stepped up and played well.

665
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: Hearns they lost Hearns way late in the year and

666
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't much of a factor anyways. I mean, they

667
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: didn't really have those guys and we thought though when

668
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: Sean Lee went out, we thought her, here we go again,

669
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Speaker 1: and then it actually opened the door for vander Estra

670
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: play as well as he did throughout the year. But

671
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of those major injuries. But

672
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I think they were very lucky this year. And when

673
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: you look at it, yes they didn't have a tight

674
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: end just overall with the talent they have, and yes

675
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 1: the tight end position that was a problem, and then

676
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: having their number one wide receiver that was a problem.

677
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: But you're saying they were lucky to get to the

678
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: playoffs that I think she's saying they're lucky in terms

679
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: of not a whole lot and having wrong for them

680
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: between the exactly when you look at things that could

681
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: have gone wrong as far as the people they have

682
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: on the whole team, whether it's on the defense or

683
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, they have a lot of talent.

684
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: They have a lot of talent, and I think they

685
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: they could have done a lot more. And we saw

686
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: the changes that happened once Amari got here. But even then,

687
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that had you done differently

688
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: coaching wise and like calling certain plays and stuff, you

689
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: could have done better and most likely we would be

690
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: talking about the next game. I mean, let's I'm this

691
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: is all off the top of my head. Seventeen year

692
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: left tackle has his worst injury problems ever. Sean Lee.

693
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: You can kind of see that coming. So that doesn't

694
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: even count. Um Zeke, I mean Zeke's whole situation last year,

695
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: which when we went to when we went to training camp,

696
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: that that that seemed like ludicrous to think that wasn't

697
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: even in the was not that was the thing. Like

698
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I'll straight up a minute, like people kind of like

699
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: people would tweet me and be like I'm hearing whispers

700
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: that Zeke's in trouble and be like, what are you

701
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: talking about. Nope, didn't see that coming in We were

702
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: shocked when we got the news, like what sixteen, but

703
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: you lose your starting quarterback in the third preseason game.

704
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: They handled it beautifully, Still could didn't see it coming.

705
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: I guess you could argue based on fifteen, which again

706
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: lose your starting quarterback in week two fourteen, Sean Lee

707
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: a much younger Sean Lee gone before the season even starts.

708
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: Thirteen And something happened in thirteen. If I had it,

709
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: happens every year, got hurt at the end of the year. Yeah,

710
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: that was all the way in Week sixteen though, but yeah,

711
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean it happened. Time to get hurt. Yeah, bad

712
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: time to get hurt, Tony, But right about that, Every

713
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: single year it happens to every single team, you know,

714
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of people want to blame Garrett as well,

715
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, Garrett Lenahan. I mean there's a lot more

716
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: angst towards Lenahan than than Garrett. But I mean this

717
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: this is one of the youngest teams that has ever

718
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: made it to the playoffs. I mean, we saw that

719
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: staff the other day out they don't have a starter

720
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: over thirty and it's the first time in what thirty

721
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: one years an NFL team made it to the playoffs

722
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: without a regular starter over thirty I mean that's that

723
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: just goes to show what kind of young team this is.

724
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: I think it was impressive what they did and turn

725
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: things around again. I don't think if Dak is your guy,

726
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't think this offense is the right for him.

727
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: And no disrespect to Lenahan, He's been a good coach

728
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: over over his time as an offensive coordinator, but not

729
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: in this setting. They need something different better than need

730
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: something fresh. And I just do not believe he will

731
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: be back. There's no way you can do it, and

732
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: Well is not going to tolerate it. They will they

733
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: He'll tolerate it, but you'll tolerate It's sorrycause you don't

734
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: have any choice at the end of the day that

735
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: the fans can't make the call. If the fans can

736
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: make the call, a lot of things would be different,

737
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: but they can't. I agree with everything you just said,

738
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: except I cannot rule out the possibility that nothing changes

739
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: because of everything you just said. Turn around from three

740
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: and five too. You know, they finish eleven and seven,

741
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, they win a playoff game, No

742
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: starters under thirty, third youngest team in the league. Damn

743
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: near every important piece coming back. I can see not balanced.

744
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: You'd you had to lean on your defense, which in

745
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: your defense got got gashed game over, season over. You

746
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: saw that twice here and in both those situations they

747
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: were not even come their offense and never really carried

748
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: them once, not once a game. Maybe I mean Jacksonville,

749
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: but the defense played great in that, maybe the Giants

750
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: game when you know, but the defense failed you twice. Yeah,

751
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: like legitimately failed you twice this year, and they got

752
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: drummed in those games. Allow me to clarify. Allow me

753
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: to clarify. I am not making that argument. I do

754
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: not believe what I'm saying, but I have to say

755
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: in the hypothetical in the art, in the scenario I'm

756
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: imagining where Jason Garrett and Jerry Jones are having this discourse.

757
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: This is what Jason Garrett is saying. He's like, look

758
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: what we did with the team we had will only

759
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: be better. I don't believe that, but I can see

760
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the argument. You're right about the Pro Bowl. This this

761
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: has to be better add for them because without terrible

762
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: time coaching the Pro Bowl, without it. You do things

763
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: what you want to do, and you don't have a timetable,

764
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: and when you have to make it, they can immediately

765
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: start actually doing the reevaluations of what went wrong, what

766
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: went right, and making that Now you have to make

767
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: the call, is this guy going with us or not? Yea,

768
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: which and even if he goes with you, that doesn't

769
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: mean that it doesn't just puts everything off right. Scott

770
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: Linahan could see he could go out and spend the

771
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: week in Orlando and coach the Pro Bowl and talk

772
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: to every media member that's out there, and it doesn't

773
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: mean anything to me. It doesn't like, it doesn't mean

774
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: anything until probably yeah if after the like, if nothing

775
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: has changed a week after the Super bowls over, then

776
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: then I start to think, like, Okay, this is just

777
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: where we're at. Dave and I are going to have

778
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: some fun conversations. I think when you're in Mobile and

779
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: there's Steven, Yeah, I'm going to talk to Stephen and

780
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: then you're gonna take what we get from him and

781
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: run it over to Yeah, to Jason Yeah, and that'll

782
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: be interesting. I'll tell you who I'm not gonna go

783
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun week. I'm not going up to

784
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli and asking him about and we'll talk about

785
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: that a little bit later. Real quick before we go

786
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: to break, though, I do want to ask you guys

787
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: about Kellen Moore because you were talking about how this

788
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator may not be the best for Dak. Does

789
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: the question also come up? Is this quarterback coach to

790
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: an experience? And we've talked about that throughout the season.

791
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Is that one of the coaching positions where you look

792
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: at it and you say, maybe there needs to be

793
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: some evaluation here on whether he's the right fit at

794
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: this moment. And I always want to be careful of

795
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: saying that doesn't mean I don't think at some point

796
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore can be a great quarterbacks coach, head coach,

797
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: whatever he's gonna aspire to be. Just with the lack

798
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: of experience, do you need more experience in that room

799
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: when you have no experience, well literally little experience with

800
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks that are actually in the room. Yeah, experience, Yeah,

801
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot, shoot a lot more experience. Honestly, this is

802
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: hard to say because we're not there to actually see

803
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: what is being taught and what it's not being taught.

804
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: But honestly, I have no feeling of just saying yes,

805
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: I saw Kellen Moore do something this year, I can't

806
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: say that, And it's hard to evaluate that because of

807
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: the game. We're not in the room and you know,

808
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: don't I saw something just the other day, for the

809
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: first time I had the binoculars on. That's one thing

810
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: I could see was right across from me. After the

811
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: whole it was a sack Lyell picked him up whatever

812
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: whatever that that ruling was. They had to hold Kellen

813
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: Moore back from the sidelines. He was like what, I

814
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: don't know, going to charge the field and talk to

815
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: the ref whatever they were holding him back, And I

816
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: was just like, never seen that. I wish I would

817
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: have seen that. Yeah, I would like the most un

818
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean Garrett. Even Garrett was turned around like stop Kellen,

819
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: just calm down over here. He's like the most field

820
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: guy here, right. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen

821
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: him with even like even Dak gets fired up during games,

822
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: Like I've never seen Kellen Moore fire. All right, let's

823
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back. I do

824
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: want to hit a little bit on that topic you

825
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: mentioned of of Rod Miranelli after the game, he was

826
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: not very happy with some of the questioning. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: on love freedom. Aretha Franklin wrote a song about that, right,

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Speaker 1: thank you. This is what So I'm thinking about this

886
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: during the break, Like, when was the last time the

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00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys just had a January off where they didn't have

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00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: some sort of obligation after the season. They did? What

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00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: was it last year? I looked up four out of

890
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: five years though they've coached their coaching there's something Senior Bowl,

891
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, nothing, Pro Bowl. Yeah, that'll happen when you

892
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: can't get past the divisional round. Man, all I did yesterday,

893
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to the Twitter verse. I just put

894
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: out some news. The news is the Cowboys are covering

895
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: or coaching the problem. Okay, I'm not saying, hey, look

896
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: at this, Hey guys, Jason Garrett, what an accomplishment. The

897
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: way it worked, it's it's it's the way the league

898
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: sets it up. Okay, if you're the highest seeded team

899
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: to lose in the divisional round, you coach the Pro Bowl.

900
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: That's the way it is. If the Saints would have

901
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: lost day coaching. Oh. I made a comment on one

902
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: of my our persecope that I do with Brian. It's

903
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: like about Chris Ray Sharon getting some interviews for you know,

904
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: the head coaching. Oh my god, this chick. She wanted

905
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: to kill him. It's just like, you're so stupid. You

906
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. Like he's staying here.

907
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm just informing you of what is

908
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: going on. This is just news that time of year. Man. Definitely, Oh,

909
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: you should just hear the stuff, like, well, it's the

910
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: only time he'll be coaching in February. I think the

911
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls even in February. Whatever, But no, I hear

912
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: you any right, Marinelli after the game in our interesting

913
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: setup to get postgame interviews, rot Melon sounds like me

914
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: was he was. He was not very pleased. There was

915
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: a question that came from the media that basically was

916
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: asking him if if to talk about a report that

917
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: had come out that he was possibly going to retire,

918
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: and he basically said, look, don't don't put words in

919
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: my mouth. Come ask me about it. I'm telling you

920
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna retire. He and he even took offense

921
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: to it. I think more because this is a situation

922
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: where this is probably him looking at it like I

923
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: know I'm older, but I'm still and he even mentioned,

924
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: he said, when do you ever see me not having energy?

925
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: When do you ever see me not having you know,

926
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: being able to really motivate my guys. Don't just because

927
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm older. Don't make it seem like I'm I need

928
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: to be put to passage. I think he was in

929
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: the wrong, honestly, and how he handled that, and I

930
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: I can you can say all you want to about

931
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: after a game, and you know it's not the right

932
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: time to ask him the question. But but my retort

933
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: to that would be when is when is the right time?

934
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: You're not having any more press conferences. You sure weren't

935
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: outside the locker room yesterday when it was trash bag

936
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: day and everyone was leaving. You don't have another one?

937
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: What are we gonna wait till the Pro At that point,

938
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: we don't know if we're gonna have to be at

939
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. So so there's a report out there,

940
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: and he kept saying, ask me, ask me. It's exactly

941
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: what she was doing, the reporter, and I thought she

942
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: handled herself very very well. She said, you know, we

943
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: are asking you the question, and you've always been great

944
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: to us. We're asking There was a report and I

945
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: don't know if this is true or not. No one knows.

946
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: The NFL network is reporting it, so it's worth asking.

947
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, he's sixty nine years always

948
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: turning seventy. That doesn't mean anything. It's just asking the

949
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: question about this report. And he he was mad because

950
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: they gave up two hundred and seventy three rushing cards

951
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: and he and I'm not I'm not faulting him. I'm

952
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: just saying I thought they did their job and it

953
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: just was sure he had a lot of emotions. Yeah's

954
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: at that time. It's the it's the age. It's the

955
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: age old conundra. And I mean, we got a job

956
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: to do. It's important and you outlined it perfectly, like

957
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: well within your right to ask the question. But it's

958
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: just one of my least favorite things to do. It's

959
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: a tough part of the job, especially in the playoffs.

960
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: That's that's the third playoff loss that I've had to

961
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: go in there and be part of that, and it's

962
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: it always sucks. Fourteen at Lambeau after the death, that

963
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: was the worst one in my worst I mean, I've

964
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: never seen Jason Witton like Jason Witten was barking at

965
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: people just and you know, you start working towards this

966
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: goal in February and then it just screeches to us.

967
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: It's got to be one of the worst feelings in

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00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah. Tyron Crawford was like, it's exactly as

969
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: difficult as I remember it being, and that like that

970
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: resonated with me. I was like, yeah, I bet it is.

971
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: So it's just a crappy situation because we I mean,

972
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: it's a fair question, but I get that he's not

973
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: exactly in the mood to answer it. And do you

974
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: guys think that happens? This is also about the fact

975
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: that all season he's heard the rumblings because everybody's talking

976
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: about it. Chris Shark, Christopher Shark, Christopher Shark. He needs

977
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: to be the defensive coordinator, Christopher Shark. Do you think

978
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: that maybe this is a part of that boiling over

979
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: that he's like, why why, why are you guys trying

980
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: to push me out of the door. I'm not It's

981
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: not like I'm not doing my job well and defense

982
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: that's playing really well. I still am the defense. I'm

983
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: speaking at him, I still am the defensive coordinat of this.

984
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: I may not call them place, but no, not me.

985
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I got that game. I didn't call that game. Maybe

986
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: some of the others. I didn't call that one. But

987
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe he's maybe that's a part of it for him,

988
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: at least that he still is the defensive coordinator and

989
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: he still is running this Here's what Then, the ironic

990
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: part of this is that when he got here, he

991
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: was also the defensive coordinator without the title. If you remember,

992
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Monnie Kiffin was here as the coordinator, but Mayeronelli was

993
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: also doing But Marionelli probably does a lot more than

994
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: what Monny Kiffin was doing. True, I'm just saying, but yes,

995
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this stab there. Yes, well, I mean,

996
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: but they have to make a decision. I mean there's

997
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: teams that want Christopher Shard and now just and people

998
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: ask this question, do they don't understand this rule? And

999
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: I just want to get this part out. He is

1000
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: a he is the passing game coordinator, secondary coach. You

1001
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: can't block anybody from saying, hey, come be your interview

1002
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: for a head coach. But nobody can say, hey, I

1003
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: want you to be our defense. It's a coordinator and

1004
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: think they're giving him a promotion that doesn't work. The

1005
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: only time the Cowboys have to let him interview for

1006
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: anything is a head coach. So I've heard that. I've

1007
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: got tweets from that, like what if somebody needs a

1008
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that doesn't work, doesn't matter. If you're a

1009
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: quality control coach and they want to move you up

1010
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: four levels, you can't do it unless it's a head

1011
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: And it sounds like all the head coaching positions that

1012
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: he had interviewed for and taken. There's still waiting of

1013
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: The Dolphins have not made a final, but they are

1014
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: why they're waiting, supposedly waiting for It's like New England.

1015
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: As far as I understand, it's like a rubber stamp deal.

1016
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: Brian Flores. They're still in so obviously they wouldn't make

1017
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: him their head coach until they were out right I will.

1018
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: And I think part of this too. There was a report,

1019
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: but Rod said with his own mouth before the game,

1020
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: he's I think the direct quote was like, I'll do

1021
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: whatever we have to do to keep Richard here, which

1022
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so, what does that mean? You're going to

1023
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: change titles, You're going to retire. So that just adds

1024
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: to the speculation. Although I don't think we really need

1025
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: to speculate at this point because I think every head

1026
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: coaching job is filled, but I think will happen. Oh

1027
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: you're right, Okay, well Cincinnati's waiting on the Rams guy. Yes,

1028
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: so you got two positions open, but it's widely speculated

1029
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: that both those positions are going to be filled by guys.

1030
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: I think, what if I had to guess, I think

1031
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to take care of take care

1032
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: of Chris Richard one way or the other. Guess so,

1033
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: but they don't have to worry about it anymore. Well,

1034
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: what I think will happen is somebody's going to be

1035
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: the assistant head coach. Not that that really matters, but

1036
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that I think that title

1037
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it'll be him or if

1038
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: it might be Marinelli. Is the assistance I actually I

1039
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: disagree with you. I think it absolutely matters to Chris

1040
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: Richard when it comes time for him to interview again,

1041
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: well next year or in two years or whenever, right,

1042
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean, because if I was about to tell you

1043
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: our receiver coach, Jimmy Something, I can't even remember his name.

1044
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: His name was Jimmy Something, and he was our assistant

1045
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: head coach. And that just goes to show just how

1046
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: much I mean, just a few years ago, just just

1047
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: to kind of make it work. It doesn't always matter,

1048
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: but I think it would matter to Chris just to

1049
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: have the title, to take that to an interview and

1050
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: say I've done this, I've had this responsibility. Maybe Rod's

1051
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: the assistant head it's it's possible difference one way or

1052
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: that thing too. Like as the assistant head coach, does

1053
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: that allow him the opportunity to address the team at

1054
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: different times as Jason say, Okay today, you're going to

1055
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: be the one. Oh I like that, but I'm just

1056
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: like that. But my point is like there are things

1057
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: that I'm sure Jason can do to help prepare him

1058
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: for a head coaching job that that may be something

1059
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: that they can sweep in the potta pre staying we're

1060
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna give you some opportunities. Well some things

1061
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: that I hear right I can hear the applause from

1062
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: our listeners right now at that that right there, that

1063
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: might have made someone I mean, you got and they haven't,

1064
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: they haven't smile since Saturday, But that made you gotta

1065
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: be careful when that happens, because because that was happening.

1066
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Jason Garrett was getting groomed to be the

1067
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: next head coach. I remember exactly grooming him. Remember where

1068
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: I was standing in that corner of that long hallway

1069
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: that leads down to scouting. I was standing there thinking

1070
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: this is going to end in an odd way because

1071
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: if he is supposed to be the coach. What fires

1072
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett? Is it gonna be lack of offense. I mean,

1073
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a just bad defense. I mean it's

1074
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna be really weird to fire him and bring Garrett in.

1075
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: And it was, and it happened, and I don't say

1076
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: it worked, but I'm just saying next year football is

1077
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: really weird that way because start, you know, this will

1078
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: it'll all get settled. They'll sign their free agents and

1079
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: their draft picks. But and like in March and April,

1080
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: this this team will be whole, and Jason Garrett can

1081
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: start his team meetings and they're gonna all start pulling

1082
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: in one direction and rowing the boat boat towards the

1083
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, another season. But real quick at this time

1084
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: of year, when it's all over, the knives come out

1085
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: like it's it's every man for himself. I mean, you know,

1086
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: it's like musical chairs, Jason, They're there's only gonna be one.

1087
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: Like somebody's gonna get left out. Jason Garrett is probably

1088
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: not right now, but just in the long like Jason

1089
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: Garrett's got a side eye at Chris Rahard like that's

1090
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: I see you over there, and you know, and Cole

1091
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley's like I'm getting the hell out of here,

1092
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: like or you know, and I mean this is all hypothetical,

1093
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: but just it's it's every man for himself when the

1094
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: season's over, and then he takes a couple of months

1095
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: and reorganized this team. Like you know, you can always

1096
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: tell like what guys what they leave behind. It's suggesting

1097
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: how much they expect to be back on. Yeah, right,

1098
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: Remember like Bryce Butler last year took the cake in

1099
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: terms of just he's like deuces, I'm gone, and you

1100
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: know there's he's in the team picture this year. Yeah,

1101
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: well yeah, ironically he wasn't. Arm Hey, when when can

1102
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: I know it was him? Can I ask a question?

1103
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: When can I talk about Earl Thomas again? Okay, talk

1104
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: about Earl Thomas. We'll give you about five minutes. We

1105
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: got the left on the show talk about old Thomas. Well,

1106
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, Christopher Shard being here would help. Um, I

1107
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: think And so do you really think that he is

1108
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: a target for the Cowboys this offseason? I think he

1109
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: should be. Um, I don't know that's that wasn't my question.

1110
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: Do you think will be? Yeah, okay, I think he

1111
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: should be. Um. You know I do think he would.

1112
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: You've been thinking he should be for a long time. Yeah. Well,

1113
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: I mean you know, you always remember the last game,

1114
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: and I mean Xavier Woods and Jeff Heath they played

1115
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: pretty well this year. They didn't play a great game

1116
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: at the end. I mean nobody did on defense, nobody

1117
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: had a great game. But I think you can see

1118
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: just a guy that can make some kind of play,

1119
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: get an interception, you know, catch a tip ball, do

1120
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: do something, have some leadership there. And he said he

1121
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: wanted to be here. I think he still does. I

1122
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: think Christoph Shard would help with that. Now, is he

1123
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: gonna come back from the injury? Well, I think it

1124
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: might lawer his price a little bit. I would do it.

1125
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: I would do it in a heartbeat. I you know what,

1126
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: he could be the Charles Haley to this team. I

1127
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: really believe. I mean, think about it. You had a

1128
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: good young team, but they need somebody. And I'm sorry

1129
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence. I love to Marcus Lawrence, but you

1130
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: need to play better than that in the game, with

1131
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: the game on the line, You've got to be better

1132
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, the interesting thing about that is you

1133
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: need It's some some games that you'll come across, playoff

1134
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: games tend to be like that sometimes where you need somebody.

1135
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: Everybody on the team is kind of looking for somebody

1136
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna step up and be that spark. And that's

1137
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: when I saw somebody to tweet this. I think it

1138
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: was I want to say it was Patrick Crayton, but

1139
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: but just basically saying this is right now, this is

1140
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: the moment. He was talking about this during the game.

1141
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: This is the moment where you make the money. And

1142
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: he was talking specifically about about Tank because that's when

1143
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: when you start talking about whether you're gonna get that

1144
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: long term deal or not and how much that long

1145
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: term deal is going to be. Those guys that get

1146
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: that premium dollar long term, they're typically the guys that

1147
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: in those kind of moments make the players that need

1148
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: to be made. That sparked the entire team, we can

1149
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: do this and come back. And who got the game

1150
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: ball for the Rams Whitworth Well, it was one of them. Yeah,

1151
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: I mean he got one of their game balls. I mean,

1152
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: and again I say that because I viewed Tank as

1153
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: the leader, and he is and I would resign him

1154
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. All that I'm just saying, But I

1155
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: could said the same thing to Sean, to Sean Lee,

1156
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, vander esch Mighter played his worst game and

1157
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: we've seen in a while. I mean, Byron Jones wasn't

1158
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: playing well. That penalty Tiki tack penalty in my opinion,

1159
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: but that to me was probably one of the biggest

1160
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: plays of the game. I agree with that. That was

1161
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: a huge play. Thirteen to seven, You're about to finally

1162
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: force him to punt, and next thing you know, two

1163
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: plays it's twenty to seven. That changed everything. That the

1164
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas conversation, this this I want to write about

1165
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: this this week, but it's always tricky because everybody wants

1166
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: to know what's next. And I'm like sitting there like, yeah,

1167
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: making some great points about Earl, and then I'm like,

1168
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna do with Tank, what's gonna happen here in

1169
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: a month and a half, and I'll lower his his

1170
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: uh you know average, we're definitely saying he's getting this extension.

1171
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't. I didn't ask you that. Yes,

1172
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: I think they are. Yes, I think they sign him

1173
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: to an exten will it get done in a timely manner?

1174
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: And that is important because the which I mean they're

1175
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: gonna tag him, they have to, and they're going to

1176
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: get an extension done between now and February whatever. I

1177
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: think the deadline to tag is February, probably mid February

1178
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: the odd I've never seen an extension get done that

1179
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: quickly after a season, not for this, unless they already

1180
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: had it done. I think they will. But that's true,

1181
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: which it's totally possible, it's so, and that My point

1182
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: is just that there's so many dominoes that have to

1183
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: fall into place before I can even think about signing

1184
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: a Earl Thomas or anybody else for that, and if

1185
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: they go to have a ton of room though, if

1186
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: they got a lot of money to be able to spend,

1187
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: if they go to de Marcus and say, listen, we're

1188
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: gonna get we want to sign you. Let's be fair

1189
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: let's get this thing done. But we need you to

1190
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: get this thing done so we can do other things

1191
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: and sign other people. I think he would do that

1192
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: as long as it's not completely unfair. I mean he'll

1193
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: he'll make it fair, but he'll do it in a

1194
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: timely manner so they can go do things. He's a

1195
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: team guy. Do you think it hurts him at all

1196
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: that his numbers weren't as high as they were last year?

1197
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: Number one and number two, that when he came to

1198
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: the playoff game they at least this one against the

1199
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: Ram It didn't that he didn't hurt the All Pro

1200
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: voters from making him a second team All Pro. Right,

1201
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: get all that. I'm just saying, do you think that,

1202
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: but you do not negotiation? You do not negotiations go right.

1203
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: That's I think that affects the negotiation. With all due

1204
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: respect to both of y'all, I think y'all are kind

1205
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: of trying to gloss this thing over, and I'm not

1206
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: convinced that it's going to be that easy. Because when

1207
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: you say, when you say not that he's you're saying

1208
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: that you think there's a chance that they franchise him

1209
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: and they go into next year with him franchised or

1210
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: or I mean they might, they absolutely might franchise him

1211
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: with the intention of signing him later this year, and

1212
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: maybe DeMarcus says, screw you guys, I like I'm not

1213
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm not coming in. I'm not gonna make this easy

1214
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: on you like I did last year. Like it could

1215
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: be a death situation where the deal ultimately gets done.

1216
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: But we don't see DeMarcus Lawrence until August. And I

1217
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't know anything, but you know, you just

1218
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: outlined it perfectly. He's got these stats, he's got these

1219
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: all pro votes, he's got this and that. He's also

1220
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: got a no show in a playoff game, and well,

1221
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: you didn't do anything down the second half of this,

1222
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: as I wonder when the when the two sides eventually

1223
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: sit down, how close are they really and how much

1224
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: money is DeMarcus asking for? But here's the deal. If

1225
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: you just if you just franchise him again, Let's say

1226
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: he goes and signs it again. Now it's going to

1227
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: be twenty million dollars twenty million for the for him

1228
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: that at least like that. That doesn't I'm not practical,

1229
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yearse it. The Rams franchise Donald. Was it

1230
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: three before they finally did a deal? Was it just two?

1231
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember, off it had one. I think it

1232
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: was two. I think he started holding out after the

1233
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: Are you sure fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen, I don't think.

1234
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: I think. I think they tried. This was the second year.

1235
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they even franchised him at all, because

1236
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: he was a fourteen pick, so fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen

1237
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: this would have been his fifth season, which is covered

1238
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: under his rookie deal. I don't think they franchised. He

1239
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: was just holding out because because he was like, I'm

1240
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: playing like a stud and I want better money than

1241
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: He's only one case in point, Zeke Elliott could do

1242
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: something similar. That's there's a lot of stuff. I mean,

1243
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: this team is set up really well. But the question

1244
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: does I'm back to the last taste that they had.

1245
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: Sure didn't necessary, doesn't necessarily inspire you to say you

1246
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: need a deal right now? But do you look do

1247
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: you really just focus on that last week negotiating? Yes? Absolutely,

1248
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: just no, no, no, I'm not saying just but it

1249
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: becomes a part of the negotiation, that's the way it does.

1250
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: But you look at it as an overall too. You're

1251
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: you're speaking from a standpoint of of what the same

1252
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: argument is. If you're if you're not on one side

1253
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: or the other, if you're on one side or the other,

1254
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: you take whatever is an advantage for you in a negotiation,

1255
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: and that's what you harp on. So I'm sure the

1256
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys would be if they were in that type of conversation,

1257
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: they would say, Hey, man, we just don't know if

1258
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: if we're ready to spend that kind of money. We

1259
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: haven't seen the consistency in the playoffs that helps us

1260
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: get there. Right, how about to negotiate? How about the

1261
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: single most underpaid player in the NFL right now, Dak Prescott.

1262
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, that's an interesting one. I watched and if

1263
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna be going that one, I had to

1264
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: get somebody paid early. Then you probably think it may

1265
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: be your quarterback. A lot to talk about this, all right,

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Speaker 1: real quick, before we say bye, I have someone asking

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, what's our schedule gonna be like for the show? Now,

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Speaker 1: we will let you guys know. There's basically for the

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Speaker 1: rest of this week, each show will do one more

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Speaker 1: show this week. We'll let you know what day it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. And then starting next year, next week we'll

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Speaker 1: go into our offseason schedule, which will be one podcast

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Speaker 1: per day. Every show will do one show each week,

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Speaker 1: so we will be let's say, for example, on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: or Wednesday or whatever it is. But we'll give you

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Speaker 1: that schedule, we'll put it out here in the coming days.

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Speaker 1: We'll be able to let you guys know, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll be back all right till then, For Dick, even

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Speaker 1: Dave Helmet, amber Garcia, I'm Derek Hipilson. This has been

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Speaker 1: The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This

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Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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