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Speaker 1: Welcome to Orchard Park, right next door to the Bills Stadium.

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Speaker 1: May this time for one bill slide from One Bill's

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Speaker 1: drive for the next three hours. I'm John Murphy and

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Tell him no, no, no, the show must

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Speaker 1: go on. We're going on is an absolute train wreck today.

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Speaker 1: I disagree here. I'm not going to admit to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we're not yet. Check with me. A two may

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Speaker 1: are Welcome to the show. Murphy and Steve Tasker. We

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Speaker 1: was great to get Steven back yesterday. We had a

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Speaker 1: Can you hear the bulldozer back? And yeah, they're still

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Speaker 1: It has been. This has been, you know, and we

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Speaker 1: it's been really eventful. It's been one of the most

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Speaker 1: He wasn't really breaking much news there, Steve. In fact,

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Speaker 1: to the mindset of the player. The players is easy,

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Speaker 1: and it diffuses the frustration of the player, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you see we've all seen it in particularly in

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Speaker 1: youth games, where it got a kid just doesn't understand

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Speaker 1: what he's doing wrong and the and they explain it

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Speaker 1: to him and you talk to him about it. Then

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Speaker 1: when he does again, say here's what happened, and he

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Speaker 1: starts to understand, and the frustration goes away because you've

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Speaker 1: explained it to him and because he's been taught, and

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Speaker 1: it happens in games and out of games as well,

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Speaker 1: and on film study. It takes away the frustration of

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Speaker 1: the player when they're just trying to get it right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's a huge thing. And I think

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Speaker 1: the league and I get it. The league's the NFL

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Speaker 1: is bigger. I'm not talking like more interesting or more

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Speaker 1: financially big. I'm talking about fifty guys on a roster,

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Speaker 1: not twelve. Seven officials on the field, not three, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifteen coaches on the sideline, not two you know. So

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Speaker 1: it's bigger and there are more voices to be heard.

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Speaker 1: But I still think that atmosphere is one you should

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Speaker 1: strive for. H So we're gonna talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: these rules proposals today. We hope to talk with you

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Speaker 1: John Crick from then is it Toronto Star? Yeah, Toronto Star.

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Speaker 1: He'll be joining us at one o'clock today, Toronto Sun,

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Speaker 1: My bad, John Crick from the Toronto Sun. They'll be

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Speaker 1: joining us at one o'clock today. And which rule change

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Speaker 1: needs to happen in the NFL. We've got three of

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Speaker 1: them up on our Twitter site. You can vote for

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Speaker 1: one of those on Twitter. You can send in your tweets,

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Speaker 1: and I'm told you we'll actually be able to call

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Speaker 1: into the show and discuss that as well. Plus, when

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Speaker 1: we come back after this break, we're going to hear

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Speaker 1: from some of the comments made by Bills jam Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 1: Last night, he did not talk about rules. He talked

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Speaker 1: about the bills, and later on in the show, we

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Speaker 1: will hear from Sean McDermott, who is meeting probably just

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Speaker 1: wrapping up the last couple of minutes meeting with the

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Speaker 1: breakfast group out there in Phoenix. That's what they do.

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Speaker 1: They bring all the AFC coaches in, all the NFC

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Speaker 1: coaches in. They sit in the hotel ballroom at a table.

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Speaker 1: There's dirty places with scrambled eggs on top of them?

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna go to that? Sometimes? But they always breakfast?

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Speaker 1: You want to go to the owner's meeting. I told

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Speaker 1: you we were talking about today. It's sort of a conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of soul sucking when you see that level

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Speaker 1: of wealth in one room. That's the experience. We go

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Speaker 1: to the we went where do we go to? This

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Speaker 1: last room? We go to the super Bowl, and then

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Speaker 1: we went to a combine. Combye. You don't see that

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Speaker 1: at the combine? Yeah, there's there isn't there's a regular gift?

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Speaker 1: See right? Yeah, yeah, it's it's right. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if I go to the owners meeting,

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Speaker 1: but I don't care what they say. I'll defer to

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Speaker 1: your expertise because I've never been to the owners meetings either.

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Speaker 1: But I would like to go to Arizona. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go February March with the combined Arizona. Right,

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Speaker 1: all right, so we're just getting started. Phone lines, I'm told,

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Speaker 1: are up, so you can ring us in eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. What world change do

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Speaker 1: you need to see happen in the NFL this week

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Speaker 1: at the owners meeting? Give us a call, vote on

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll, or even send them a tweet. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna reach some of them when we come back, Lust

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Speaker 1: Brandon Beam, when we return, come on back. One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: just getting started from One Bill's Drive. And this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, One Bill's Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. I'm John Murphy. This is Team Tasker here

494
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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park, New York, where the temperature was twenty

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Speaker 1: three degrees when I left for work today. Steven A Ground,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even want to know what the temperature is

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Speaker 1: out there at the owners meetings? Do we want to know?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I would not do as any if you do,

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Speaker 1: say a Satan Celsius as a register. But we're here

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about what's going on in Arizona, and

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Speaker 1: we want to get you involved as well. Phone lines

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Speaker 1: open eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Which rules change

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Speaker 1: needs to happen in the NFL? We offered up three

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Speaker 1: suggestions that are being discussed this week, probably today, later

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Speaker 1: today in tomorrow at the NFL owners meetings. Which rules

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Speaker 1: change do you need to see happen? Here's an interesting

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Speaker 1: tweet not on your sheet yet, but I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get to it. David Naka tweets and you are so

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Speaker 1: adamant about not allowing both teams on offense and overtime,

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Speaker 1: calling us crazy. Nobody called anybody crazy, but you both

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Speaker 1: couldn't be more wrong. Not all teams are even all

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Speaker 1: the time with free agency. I'd like to know the

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Speaker 1: stats on which team wins when both opposing teams strengthens

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Speaker 1: their offense. Who put that in there? David Naka? Listen, David,

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Speaker 1: you're crazy because we didn't. We didn't say. We didn't

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Speaker 1: tell him that the rule is find the way it is,

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Speaker 1: and both teams have the opportunity to possess as long

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Speaker 1: as the other team doesn't score a touchdown. If you

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Speaker 1: can't keep him out of the touchdown, you don't deserve

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Speaker 1: to win the game. And another thing, the teams are absolutely,

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Speaker 1: positively one hundred percent not unequal because of freezing. They're

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Speaker 1: exactly equal. That's why it's a tie. That's why they're

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Speaker 1: going into overtime. They're exactly equal. So you are crazy.

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Speaker 1: For the record, right, I'm not saying my logic flaw.

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Speaker 1: I have no comment on is my logic flawed? Yes

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Speaker 1: or no? Not flawed? Thank you, But um, my conclusion

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Speaker 1: may be flawed due no play defense defense manners in

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Speaker 1: overtime and through the sixty minutes that preceded. Um, all right,

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Speaker 1: go from the tweet. Two. By the way, phone line

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Speaker 1: is open. The phones are working. If you have thoughts

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Speaker 1: on these proposed rules changes in which you'd like to

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Speaker 1: see happen, give us a call. Maybe you got a

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Speaker 1: better one eight three fifty one. Who is that guy

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Speaker 1: that just said that about David Naka? All right, David,

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Speaker 1: I want to give you your full credit. I get

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Speaker 1: your passion, but I disagree completely with you. But okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. You're not crazy a little bit. Brian

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Speaker 1: Cook tweeted in I like the idea of expanding replay

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Speaker 1: to closer resemble the CFL. The problem is with replay

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Speaker 1: is and always has been that they try too hard

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Speaker 1: and take too much time to get the call right

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Speaker 1: instead of using the indisputable evidence threshold for overturning calls.

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Speaker 1: And I'll go along with that. We've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of suggestions about listen. If you're gonna do replay, just

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Speaker 1: do it at regular motion. If you can't see it

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Speaker 1: in regular speed, let it slide. Just go. And if

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Speaker 1: you go down frame by frame and super slow motion

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Speaker 1: and three different angles, forget it. Just just keep the

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Speaker 1: game moving. And I'm okay with that the CFL. And

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Speaker 1: I've seen a bunch of CFL games obviously because I

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Speaker 1: have a Sun playing up there. Um, they can they

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Speaker 1: can challenge every call, no matter what, even non calls.

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Speaker 1: They can challenge any play under any circumstances. And that

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Speaker 1: opens up to me a problem. It does to lay

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Speaker 1: the game because what happens is the coaches save those

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Speaker 1: challenges until critical play happens. And say, for instance, you're

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Speaker 1: you're playing well and stuff, and your team intercepts a

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Speaker 1: pass and goes back for a touchdown, You're gonna win

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Speaker 1: the game. The other team who through the interception can

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Speaker 1: throw the challenge flag and say, listen, we were trying

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Speaker 1: to throw a pass and away from the play all

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Speaker 1: the way over here on the other sideline, this dB

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Speaker 1: held our receiver. That's a penalty, and they'll bring the playback.

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Speaker 1: You don't get the interception return for a touchdown. It's

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Speaker 1: a penalty against your team away from the play, and

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Speaker 1: they go on again and then the play gets taken

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Speaker 1: off the board. It's much akin to a hockey goal

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Speaker 1: going in after they've had possession in the zone for

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Speaker 1: like four minutes and going all the way back and saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: they were off sides when they entered the zone. They're

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Speaker 1: taking that goal off the board. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: like that. It drives you nuts, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody wants that doesn't happen. You see it a lot

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Speaker 1: in CFL where that a big play takes off. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because that's the only time they use those challenges. That's

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Speaker 1: the only time it makes it worth it, really, unless

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Speaker 1: it's maybe a fumble or a you know, some turnover play.

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Speaker 1: But it's always a crucial play that they use it

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Speaker 1: on that they don't even use it, just like in hockey,

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Speaker 1: they don't use it when they don't score a goal,

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Speaker 1: they use it when they do. That's what happens when

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Speaker 1: you get this thing where if you want to challenge

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Speaker 1: every play in the NFL, believe me, if you're gonna say, okay,

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Speaker 1: you can have that play. Your offensive tackle was holding

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Speaker 1: our defensive lineman on that touchdown pass. I want to

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Speaker 1: go back and I want a holding call call on it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do that every play, right, right, So that's

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Speaker 1: a can of worms right there that I think is

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Speaker 1: a bad idea to open up. But that's you know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're trying to get everything right, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: it takes time and replays to do it. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know that all of us are rulling to go

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Speaker 1: down that road that far. Here's an unattended consequence I

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Speaker 1: was explaining. I was talking to you about this this

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Speaker 1: morning about the fourth and fifteen. You know the rules proposal, right,

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Speaker 1: None of this, by the way, has been patched yet

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Speaker 1: at the owner's meetings. But the one proposal, in lieu

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Speaker 1: of an outside kick, a team that is receiving the

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Speaker 1: kickoff can elect to at one time in a game

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Speaker 1: and only in the fourth quarter, take the ball immediately,

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Speaker 1: not except to kick or not attempt to kickoff, and

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Speaker 1: they can have a fourth and fifteen at their own

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. In other words, if you get

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Speaker 1: the fifteen yards, if you get the midfield or beyond,

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Speaker 1: you maintain possession in lieu of an onside kick one

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Speaker 1: time per game, only fourth quarter. But here's I got

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Speaker 1: thinking about it today. So if you kick your field

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Speaker 1: goal and now you're down by six, let's say you

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Speaker 1: absolutely will do that, right if you haven't used it before, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, why would you go through the whole kickoff

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Speaker 1: in the chance you might not You might not win

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Speaker 1: the onside kick, you might not get the onside kick.

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Speaker 1: You would do that every game. If you were within

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, which most games are, and it's your last

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Speaker 1: possession and you're in the final minute, of course we're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep the ball. We might throw a hail Mary

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Speaker 1: and win the game. We might just get sixteen yards

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Speaker 1: and get a first down and have enough time to

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Speaker 1: keep moving down the field. You would almost be obliged

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Speaker 1: to do that, right under that is that a problem

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Speaker 1: for you? I think it would make that play more

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Speaker 1: prominent than maybe the owners, than maybe the rules people

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Speaker 1: want it to be. They would make it more primit.

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Speaker 1: It would make it an obvious point of emphasis, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll save you know, fourth quarter, We're gonna save this

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Speaker 1: play in case we get within one score and so

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Speaker 1: that we don't have to try to recover an onside kick.

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Speaker 1: It would change the strategy. Is it a problem? I

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Speaker 1: think I don't know. It would change the game for sure.

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Speaker 1: Onside kicks go away. But here's the reason they put

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Speaker 1: this in last year with the new safety rules. In

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Speaker 1: the kickoff, we've all noticed it where the standing started

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Speaker 1: the kickoff team and all those guys lined up close

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Speaker 1: to the kickoff team. On the return team, they're all

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Speaker 1: kind of lined up together in the middle field. They

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Speaker 1: kind of run down the field together. Because of the

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Speaker 1: safety changes of the kickoff, it has made on side

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Speaker 1: kicks virtually impossible to recover for the team that needs

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Speaker 1: to do it to get back in the game. So

641
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: the league had to respond to that. They didn't want

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Speaker 1: games on one side or the other, whether it was

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00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: a double digit lead or a single digit lead. They

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Speaker 1: didn't want it to be completely done with four minutes

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Speaker 1: to go. Or three minutes to go. They wanted that

646
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: last you know, third of the fourth quarter, the flash

647
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: five minutes of the game, to having relevance or to

648
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: have a chance to keep people's interest, and there was

649
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: no interest when on side kicks were impossible or seemingly

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00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: impossible to recover. So they put this in, say, listen,

651
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: you gotta give teams a better option than an impossible play.

652
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: Give us a fourth and fifteen. To me, I'm surprised

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00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: that the league didn't say you can do it anytime

654
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: you want instead of an onside kick. Do you want

655
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Speaker 1: to get a fourth and fifteen? Give it a shot.

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00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they're I'm surprised they're limiting, limiting it to

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00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and only one time to try it.

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00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 1: And that, by the way, is a Competition Committee rules proposal,

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00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: which means it is more likely that they would pass

660
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: as opposed to the team proposals. And it's only an

661
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: experiment for one year. Right. David Naka is back on Twitter.

662
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: Can I read you his tweets? Okay? Um, he's a

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00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: guy that Steve Yeah, you I call crazy from that

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Speaker 1: back pedal. Yeah, he's talking about allowing both team on

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00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: offense in overtime, and he says the first team with

666
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: possession wins eighty percent or something disproportionately. Tom Brady against

667
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense was a ridiculous outcome. That's not true, David,

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00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: What do you listen to us? It happens less than

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00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: half the time, less than half the time. Um. David

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Speaker 1: Naka then goes back and says, I still love you both, Well,

671
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: we love you too, but you're still wrong. Yeah, and

672
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: we may be. Is it okay to tell somebody they're wrong?

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Speaker 1: I've told you that, I got my last segment. I

674
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: told you that last segment. Yeah, that's kind of kind

675
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: of senting for you to tell me I'm wrong. David

676
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: Naka is verbalizing a misperception. We just read the statistics.

677
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: A twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen study said that less

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Speaker 1: than half the time a team that wins the coin

679
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: toss and has the ball on offense in overtime first

680
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: less than half the time they win the game. They

681
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: win the game a couple of percentage points more than

682
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: the other team. But it's negligible. It's negligible. It's almost,

683
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: it's almost. It's a coin flip. Yeah, it's a coin flip,

684
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: So it's not we all. I'm telling you people are

685
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: mad at the overtime rules because when the game that

686
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: is so good and so tension filled and played so

687
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: well that they're tied at the end of it, you

688
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: want that game to keep going. So you want to

689
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: change the rules to keep that particular game keep You

690
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: want to see Tom Brady and Pat Mahomes keep playing.

691
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: It was a great game. It was a great game.

692
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: So everybody wants to change the rules to keep that

693
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: particular game going. Don't. Don't. It's it's it's a misperception.

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Speaker 1: It's a misperception on the tweet sheet. Which rule change

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00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: needs to happen in the NFL. Robert Chase on the

696
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: overtime question, says, both teams possessing ball and overtime, they

697
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: do it in college, and it's a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: and strategic. You know what. I'll give you this, Robert,

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00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: it's fun. Um. I don't know if it's strategic, and

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Speaker 1: I know I don't believe it is football when the

701
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: college overtime rule goes in place. I don't think it's

702
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: real football. Seven. There's no field position at stake, there's

703
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: no defense really to be played. And it always strikes

704
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: me is inauthentic when a game goes to overtime tied

705
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: at twenty eight and they play the college overtime in

706
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: the final score is sixty three to fifty six or something.

707
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: What I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. It's

708
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: not football anymore. It's something else, that's right. Remember the

709
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: college overtime. I remember I was. I had a production

710
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: meeting with Peyton Manning and I were talking and Eli

711
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: was still in college at Old Miss, and Eli got

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00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: into an overtime game in college, and it had happened

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00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: just before, you know, the saturday before. We spoke to

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Speaker 1: him on Friday, to Peyton on Friday, and we were

715
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: talking about the game and how Eli was playing, and

716
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: he had like five touchdown passing and Payton goes, yeah,

717
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: he goes all those touchdown passes and overtime count. Yeah,

718
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: he go on a statue rights. So he was Him

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00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: and Eli were laughing about how he was pumping his

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00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: past that's up because of this overtime game, getting all

721
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: these touchdown passes. Yeah, they all count. It's fun, but

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00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: it's not really football. Well, Well, if you're gonna say that,

723
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: if it's fun. Let's go right, Yeah, I mean let's

724
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: play with no pants on. I mean, no fun, no fun.

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00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Here's a call on a couple of rules issues. Michael,

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Speaker 1: Michael in his car. Hello, Mike, you're on the air. Yeah,

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00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: my question. You know they're going about the hot side kick,

728
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm thinking about the the comeback by

729
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: the Bills, which this those whale never ever have any

730
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: possibility but happening again. But in sometimes making such a

731
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: drastic change, like they're talking about, why don't they just

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00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: change it from the ball has to go ten yards,

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Speaker 1: so it has to go you know, seven, eight or

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00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: six yards, and then it would be back to the

735
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: same percentage as it was in the past. Uh, well

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know if maybe. I mean that's and

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00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: you're right, they could make it to go five yards

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Speaker 1: and then both teams have a chance to possess it

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00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: and make it did more difficult for the return team

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Speaker 1: to cover it. But here's the problem and the unintensive.

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Speaker 1: Until you run through this about fifty or one hundred

742
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: or two hundred or a thousand times, you don't know

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00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: if it's actually gonna be the same percentage of recovery.

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00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: And the league believe me, they've got numbers on it.

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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: It was one in ten, one in ten on side

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00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: kicks that were that were set up for and you

747
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: could see them coming. One in ten of those things

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00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: got got about fourteen percent got recovered by the kicking team,

749
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: But when they did it surprise on side, it was

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00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: more like eighty percent of the team's recovered it. But

751
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: now it's like one percent. You know, it's like it's negligible.

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00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: Nobody can get these, even the surprise on sides, nobody

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00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: can get. So they want to take it back to

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: where it's it's there's some chance. But then again, they

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00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: don't want to give the game back to the team

756
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: that's kicking off either. They don't want to give them

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00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: the ball back easily. So they got they got to

758
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: decide on how often they wanted to happen. And this

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00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen option. I like it for a couple

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00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: of reasons. One say, for instance, Buffalo's got it and

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00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: they need a play to keep the game going. Well,

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00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: we get to see our guy Josh Allen go out there,

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00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: and even back inrom you get to see the stars player.

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00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: You don't get to see guys look like me. You

765
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: don't see role players going out there in the game's

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00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: riding on your fifth wide receiver who is on the

767
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: team for like one week. Right, you want to see

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00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: your best guy on offense try and convert it. You

769
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: want to put all your guns out there, your best,

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00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: your star players. That's what the fans want to see.

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00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: So give them a chance to convert it, and and

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00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: give the guys who are making all the money a

773
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: chance to do it. You were on the last summer

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00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: of the Special League summer on kickoffs, and didn't you

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00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: tell a center. Maybe I've read this since then. As

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: as bad as regular kickoffs were for the injury, and

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00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: it was substantial, it's even worse on on side kicks. Right,

778
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: more people get hurt, right or wrong. I don't remember that.

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00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: I think I read that it might be right because

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00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: it's and yeah, I mean I know this as a

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00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: player back in the day. It was the one play

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00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: that you'd go out there and you you gulp because

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00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: it was gonna it was gonna hurt, because it was

784
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna be collisions. Yeah, it was like, oh boy, okay,

785
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: you know you'd have to you know, you'd have to like, okay,

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00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: here we go. Because you're I mean, because there's no tournament.

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00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: You're going as hard as you can and you're creating

788
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: a space. And it's and it's really on both sides too.

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00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: As a receiving team, you're trying to play the ball

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00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: and you know there's a freight train coming down the tracks.

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00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: And if you're the freight train, same thing. I mean,

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00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: you know that you're because if you're going and you're

793
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: trying to get the guy that's getting the ball, well

794
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: somebody who's not getting the ball is gonna light you up.

795
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: So on both sides of the ball, the old time

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00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: on side kicks were like which world change needs to happen?

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: Wandering Jack tweets in their responses as far as the

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00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: on side kick the fourth and fifteen, Wandering Jack says,

799
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: no one can get an onside kick anymore. It's nigh impossible.

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00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: I like the fourth and fifteen idea. Agree it should

801
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: be limited to the fourth quarter, But why limited to

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00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: once per game. Let's let a team do it as

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00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: much as needed. It would let teams down by more

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00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: than one score, a chance and an epic comeback. I agree,

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00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: its true. See I think you can limit it to

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00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, but if you think of a fourth quarter,

807
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: you got to turn them loose and let them come back.

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00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: You gotta let him try it. And the thing is,

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00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: too if it's the fourth quarter, nothing to say that

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00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: the other team can't do it too the surprise, you

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00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So and just elect to keep

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00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: the ball. Particularly let's say this, say the Bills are

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00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: playing anybody like the Patriots, and in the third quarter,

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00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Steph Gilmore tweets an ankle can't play. Well, you're fourth

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00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: and fifteen just became a lot more gettable in the

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00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So you may go for it twice, and

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00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: you may get it twice because they're hamstrong in their

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00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: defensive secondary. And you'll know that as a you know,

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00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: as a coaching staff and as a team, you're gonna

820
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: go after the guy that replaced Steph. So that kind

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00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: of thing is going to happen in games. And I

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00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: think it's to give them as many shots at as

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Speaker 1: they want. And I a fourth quarter, okay, because there's

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00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: a lot of game left, let's wait until then. But

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00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of strategy that will be added into

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Speaker 1: the mix in the end of the game that I

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Speaker 1: think adds some interest. Rules changes on the table. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the owners meetings in Arizona expected to be

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Speaker 1: voted on either tonight or tomorrow at the owner's meeting.

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00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: Which one needs to happen. Let's hear from you full

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Speaker 1: Nine's open at eight o three five fifty or twell

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00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: three from outside Buffalo one eight five fifty two five

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00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: fifty plus when we return. Brandon Bean has some thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the expectations for the Bills this year, patience with

835
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: the Bills this year, and what message he's getting from ownership.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear that when we return. Right here at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Drive. It's One Bill's Life presented by Kalida Health

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show as usual,

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Speaker 1: high led to the show or during the commercial breaks.

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Speaker 1: We've learned that when what's your first year anniversary here?

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Speaker 1: It's coming up April twenty, third week of the draft. Yeah, yeah,

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00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: what we want to do to celebrate nothing? Come on, man,

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00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: we'll think of something. Hey, Steve and I are here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from John Crick from the Toronto Star

845
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: Star coming up at the one o'clock hour. He's at

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00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the owners meetings in Toronto. I'll figure that out before.

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00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: That's total disrespect for John Qrickhoy, like a lot um

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Speaker 1: not for him. Yeah, I should know where he works.

849
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Speaker 1: Which world change needs to happen in the NFL. They're

850
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: talking about several at the NFL owners meetings. We'll take

851
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Speaker 1: your phone calls on at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

853
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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Think I have time to squeeze one

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Speaker 1: in here. Dave in Florida, Dave, go ahead, you're on

855
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: the air. Hey, how are you guys doing the name? Okay,

856
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: all right, listen, I don't think any of these rules

857
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: should be changed, are all? The game is getting to

858
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: be a sissy games? It is. And the one thing

859
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: that I've always just smike was the offensive holding. You

860
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: can call that in every single play and they don't.

861
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: But they only do it these seems when Buffalo breaks

862
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: away with a run or pass or something. Yeah, I

863
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Well, what are these day? Let

864
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: me ask you this, what do these rule changes have

865
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: to do with sissifying the game? None of these I see? Well, yeah,

866
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: that fourth that fourth thousand thing at fourth if that

867
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Speaker 1: one is the two scores and you got that. What

868
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: do you give you so much time? I mean, there's

869
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: a you know, I don't get it. You don't play college.

870
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: You can't do the college thing. You'll be playing all

871
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: that day of all day. Right, h Yeah, I get it.

872
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: It's not a time thing. It's just inside the fourth quarter.

873
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: That's all you can do it once inside the fourth

874
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: quarter for a fourth fifteen. I can't believe they're voting

875
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: on this kind of stuff. Yeah, well, let me talk

876
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: to that point for a second, Dave. Hang on, Dave,

877
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: let me talk to your point. I'm addressing your point, Dave.

878
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: You obviously can't hear me. But I don't agree that

879
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: they're making the game sissified in any way with these changes.

880
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: But I do agree they're micromanaging Steve, and I think

881
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: the NFL has been repeatedly guilty of that, just trying

882
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: to do too much, trying to perfect a game that's

883
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: pretty good and very popular, and they try to tweak it.

884
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: I saw a quote I can't find it from Sean Payton,

885
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: and Sean Payton appears to be now that he's on

886
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: the Competition committee, appears to be the guy who has

887
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: a lot to say. He said something about are you

888
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: telling me that after that NFC Championship game, we don't

889
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: need to change any rules. Yeah, maybe Dave's right, and

890
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that too. Maybe you lost, Sean, you lost.

891
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: It was a horrible call. Should have been called passive

892
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: afference wasn't called. It doesn't mean you go back to

893
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: the drawing board because you lost. And I think there's

894
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: a push in the NFL that sort of affect things

895
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: that can never be perfected. Steve. It's not being sissy's

896
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: about it. It's I think it's micromanaging. I think, and

897
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: I think Dave to your point the caller, I think

898
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Speaker 1: one thing that the league does and I don't know, Murph,

899
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: maybe I'm overthinking it here as well. I think they

900
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: want at least give the perception that they are trying

901
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: to get the game better and keep it credible. I mean,

902
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: that's how I think we got to replay in the beginning.

903
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: You get teams like all the way back in the eighties,

904
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: when when Mike Renfro for the Houston Oilers caught a

905
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: ball in the back of the end zone against the

906
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers on there and during their huge Super Bowl

907
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: running in the seventies, it wouldn't have happened had they

908
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: gotten a call right in three Rivers Stadium against the Steelers.

909
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: The Steelers benefited from that call. Calls like that that

910
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: are egregious calls, like the call for the Rams and

911
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: the and the Saints. It's a huge blow to the

912
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: league's credibility. It turns it in and I don't want

913
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: to I'm not don't don't at me on Twitter. I'm

914
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: just saying, it turns into pro wrestling, right, it turns

915
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: into something way. It doesn't matter if he cheated, they won.

916
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if this guy did. That doesn't matter

917
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: if they didn't call this egregious penalty. This is how

918
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: we wanted the thing to turn out. It kills the

919
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: credibility of the league if they don't at least appear

920
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: to be addressing things that went egregiously wrong during the season.

921
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: So I think there's no question that the league is

922
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: serious about making the game as good as it can

923
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: make it. But I think some of this, and I

924
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: didn't occur to me until we started talking about it

925
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: in this segment. When they call her cold, maybe they are.

926
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Maybe this is just, you know what, We're trying to

927
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: fix it. But we don't think it needs to be fixed.

928
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: We're looking at it and that's partly just part of

929
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: the league trying to stay credible as a as a

930
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: true competition, trying to keep it fair. What do you think,

931
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: Am I crazy? No, you're not crazy. And I agree

932
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: with what the league's motivation is. But I think you'll

933
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: never get what It's a game played by humans, right

934
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: official by humans. It will never be perfect. You try

935
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: to make it the best you can. And that's why

936
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: I go back to let's make these officials full time.

937
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: And I'm reading another quote from from Sean Payton which

938
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: I agree with this one hundred percent. He says, our

939
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: best at playing the game and our best at coaching

940
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: the game spend twenty hours, eighteen hours a day. Our

941
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: best at officiating it's their second job. He says that

942
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: has to change because it's too hard, too much at

943
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: stake for someone who's a teacher at school or florist

944
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: an attorney. That's backward thinking that I agree with. I

945
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: do too time to work full time. I am all

946
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: about putting these guys on full time. And they did.

947
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean they put it like how many of it was?

948
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: It was? It thirty of them, a couple of them.

949
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's more than a handful. Wasn't it

950
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen? All right? And they put it, they

951
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: put it just a little more than like one crew

952
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: on full time. So I think that's the step in

953
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: the right direction. I think that's a great way to go.

954
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: And let's not forget too Mark. You and I have

955
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: chronicled all of it. They've had some long time officials

956
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: over the past two years go away. Yeah, they are

957
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: bringing in new officials, new blood, new perspective, full time

958
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: guys into the fold. And I think eventually, if not sooner,

959
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna get better. It's gonna get better. This is

960
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: a new group and this is two a whole generation

961
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: of guys coming in under these rules, with replay the

962
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: way it is, with the challenge system the way it is,

963
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of these officials have had to adjust

964
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: to that. You know, they've the officials have had to

965
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: adjust and evolve with the rules over the course. And

966
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you bring new guys in

967
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: at this point where they know this game, this is

968
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: the only game they've ever known, they don't have to

969
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: make all these massive adjustments to their mindset. So maybe

970
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: it'll get better as the officials who are in the

971
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: game now have always played under this level of replay

972
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: and challenge systems. Maybe all right, we're gonna take a break,

973
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back, we're gonna talk more about officiating.

974
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: John Crick, NFL columnists for the Toronto Sun, is going

975
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: to join us when we return. You have us his

976
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: take on the rules proposals. He's got some interesting thoughts

977
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: that he wrote about on the in the Toronto Sun

978
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: and the media that's coming up when we return. Steve Tasker,

979
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: John Murphy. One Bill's Live presented by Collata Health from

980
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Bow Bills

981
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: Radio Network. Sports Stop Day update comes from One Bill's Drive.

982
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bill's brain trusts head coach Sean McDermott and

983
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: general manager Brandon Bean both addressing the media at the

984
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: NFL owners meetings in Arizona yesterday and today. Not much

985
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: news coming out of that. Bean did indicate that the

986
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: Bills are still interested in signing free agents, even after

987
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: adding about a dozen free agents over the last couple

988
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: of weeks, but nothing is imminent, he said, no trades imminent. Either.

989
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: NFL announced yesterday that the one hundredth season of the

990
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: league will open with the meeting between the Bears and

991
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. The league announced Monday will forego

992
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: the traditional opening night matchup in which the Super Bowl

993
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: winner hosts the first game of the season on Thursday night. Instead,

994
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: one of the league's classic rivals will open the season

995
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: from Chicago Soldier Field on Thursday, September fifth, the Packers

996
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: and the Bears. The league also announced that the Super

997
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: Bowl champion Patriots opened their season on Sunday Night football

998
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: at home against an opponent to be determined. Sean Payton,

999
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: new member of the NFL Competition Committee, says if the

1000
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: league doesn't make changes due to its instant replay system

1001
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: or officiating, that ownership is saying they're comfortable with what

1002
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: happened a year ago the Saints coach, referring to the

1003
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: mispass interference called that helped cost the team a trip

1004
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. In January, NFL owners expected to

1005
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: move on to start tackling some of the rules changes

1006
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: that have been talked about over the last couple of weeks.

1007
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins say that they discarded starting quarterback Ryan

1008
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: Tannehill this offseason. They're in search of a trade partner

1009
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: for defensive end Robert Quinn. But they are not tanking.

1010
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: That's what the general manager, Chris Greer says. He says

1011
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: the organization simply simply is not as concerned with twenty

1012
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: nineteen as they are with twenty twenty. Eagles Executive vice

1013
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: president for football Operations Howie Roseman says the signing of

1014
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: quarterback Carson Wentz soon an extension is the number one

1015
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: priority and central to the Eagles plan going forward. John Bruten,

1016
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: head coach of the Oakland Raiders, says, Derek Carr is

1017
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: going to be our quarterback. That's what he told the

1018
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: NFL network says he's not going to address all the rumors.

1019
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: Savers tonight on the road in Ottawa, game three of

1020
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: their three game road trip. And that's the update from

1021
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker coming to

1022
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: you from our One Bill's Drive studio. That was the sound,

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00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: that was the quote I was looking for. Well, I

1024
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: know you so. Chris Greer says, there's no tanking going

1025
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: on here. He says, there's no tanking. You say you

1026
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: want tough, competitive guys, who love football, or you bring

1027
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: him in and say, hey, let's do it, but not

1028
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: this year. Let's just relax and enjoy this year. No,

1029
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: he says, we'll come back and be tough and competitive.

1030
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: You missed a big tank controversy last week, Steve heard

1031
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: must be glad that you might. Kind of am I

1032
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: had a better stuff to do. I know that, But yeah,

1033
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Speaker 1: Steve is back with us today, and we've got a

1034
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Speaker 1: special guest on the line who joins us from the

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Speaker 1: NFL's owner meetings. Owner Meetings and Arizona happy to have

1036
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Speaker 1: John Crick on the line. He is a Toronto Sun,

1037
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Speaker 1: NFL columnist, author of several football books, college football historian

1038
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: John Is John Murphy, and seem tasker up here in Buffalo.

1039
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: All right, I promised you we wouldn't ask what give

1040
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: us a temperature? What do you got today in Arizona? Oh,

1041
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: it's wonderfully too hot? Eighties nineties? What are we looking at? Oh? Man,

1042
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Speaker 1: it's gonna I think it's going up on my phone.

1043
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Speaker 1: I haven't celsius, but I usually changed over to fahrenheit

1044
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Speaker 1: when I come to the States because that's where I

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Speaker 1: grew up knowing. And I'd say it's going up to

1046
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Speaker 1: high eighties today, but it's you know, it's like the Cabby.

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Speaker 1: I asked to roll the window down on the way

1048
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Speaker 1: from the airport to the hotel. He's like, well, we

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Speaker 1: normally don't do that because of the air Connage said,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming from Canada and this is Arizona. And he says, okay,

1051
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: all right, And then then he asked me. Then he

1052
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Speaker 1: asked me, what what time do you or when's the

1053
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Speaker 1: last time you rolled your window down? And I said,

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Speaker 1: except to go to a Timmy's drive through, probably the

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Speaker 1: power point. Yeah, it's thirty eight degrees here in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, channel Steve's gonna kill me for

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Speaker 1: asking this question. He warned me not to do it.

1058
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: But you and I when we're talking, and we did

1059
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: it at the combine, just got right together. You have

1060
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: to be impressed with Michigan's first two game two games

1061
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: in the Steve almost spit up as Tim Horton's their

1062
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: first two games in the NCAA tournament that I was

1063
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: telling friends and close observers. They're back, They're right back.

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00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: They're playing as well as they have in the last

1065
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: couple of years. Based on last weekend, well they are,

1066
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: and there's something like in the last three seasons twenty

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00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: four and four outside of a Big Ten play where

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00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: they refereing is a little bit more, a little tough,

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00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: especially for road games. I'm not making excuses for them

1070
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: because bel Becker doesn't warrant one, but he is. He's

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00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: one amazing coach. He really is. He is a basketball savan,

1072
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And he always has

1073
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: been offensively for decades going back to when he started

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00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: coaching that are ye. But now that he's has the

1075
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: number one defense for a defensive efficiency in the country.

1076
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: Was on assistant coach that they brought in a year ago.

1077
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: It's really something because they can beat you anyways, and

1078
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: as long as they've got a couple of their shooters,

1079
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: as two of their shooters are having a good, good game,

1080
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: as they proved in November one they blew out North Carolina,

1081
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: they can beat anybody and impressively. Yep, all right, Steve,

1082
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: no more Michigan basketball. It's March madness. You gotta kind

1083
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: of you got to touch base with it anyway, So

1084
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: particularly with somebody who knows what's going to like you,

1085
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: so to you. So we had stuff to talk about

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00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: with rules. But I just noticed a post that you

1087
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: made for the Toronto Sun about Donald Trump. You say

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00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: he never submitted a binding bid to buy the bills

1089
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: back five years ago when the bills were for sale.

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00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: Give us a capsule version of that story, if you would, please. Jack. Yeah,

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00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: people recalled her in the bills sale process in July

1092
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: of that summer of twenty fourteen. Um there is a

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00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: deadline for submitting we're called an indicative bid, which is

1094
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: they just show you a little bit of the books,

1095
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: a very small taste of it, and therefore you don't

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00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: have to submit a binding bid. He did do that,

1097
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: along with the Boulas and the John bon Jovi Toronto group.

1098
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: But when it came time and Saber to submit a

1099
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: binding bid, which meant that you know you're submitting this,

1100
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay it if we pick you,

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00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: he didn't, And that was always thought that he had.

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00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: In fact, I even report at the Times on the

1103
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: source that said that he didn't did the one billion

1104
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: people thought it was eight hundred million. Turns out that

1105
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: was wrong too. He didn't submit a binding bid at all.

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00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: And I got that from three good sources confirmed at all.

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00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: So and this is just part of you know, what's

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00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: going on. Was not to get political about what's having.

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00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, who was, you know, kind of the point

1110
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: man for Trump on that whole bill sale, he's now,

1111
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: of course, in front of a Congressional committee and saying

1112
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: that you know, Donald sudging his books. He was alleging anyhow,

1113
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: this seems to be another part of that puzzle or story,

1114
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: and that he never submitted it. And you know what,

1115
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: everybody that you talked to back then five years ago

1116
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: and at all involved in Wall Street or in the

1117
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: financial world, at the sports world, they all doubted all along.

1118
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: People told me for a month he's never going to

1119
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: go through with a bid, he doesn't have the money,

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Speaker 1: he's never going to do it. Turns out that was correct. Yeah,

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: all right, now you're ready to move on, Steve to

1122
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: THEA to keep going. Man, what's the John, what's the

1123
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: atmosphere there at the owner's meetings. I mean, we're talking

1124
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: about all these rule changes, and some of them you

1125
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: like to overtime. You'll see those maybe twice or three

1126
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: times during the season. The fourth and fifteen, the sky judge,

1127
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's been on the table, some of

1128
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: it's off the table already. What's the mood like, is

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00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: there going to be you know, how much of the

1130
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: stuff's going to go through We're supposed to find out

1131
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: within a couple of hours of voting is supposed to

1132
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: supposed to begin on some of these it might already have.

1133
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: We just got through with the thirty two coaches all

1134
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: at once one hour of round tables. They used to

1135
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: split them up over two days, so it was just

1136
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: kind of everyone says a little bit spinning right now.

1137
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: But with Sean Tayton, who's on the Competition Committee, and

1138
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: of course that coach of the Saints who had that

1139
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: awful play happened to them where the non call defensive

1140
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: past interference, he just announced that the Competition Committee met

1141
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: again last night after a raucus meeting with the all

1142
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: thirty two head coaches, and they added another rule proposal

1143
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: which everybody knew coming in here that there was a

1144
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: proposal saying that allowing a proposal to allow coaches to

1145
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: review defensive passiffairs and offensive pass interfairs if called but

1146
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: not non called, while they added last night proposal six

1147
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: B to also allow coaches to or further replay, to

1148
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: review and throw a flag after the fact for not

1149
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: called offensive passive affairs or defensive pass interfairs. So for

1150
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: the committee to kind of adjust like that on the

1151
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: flat here within the meetings tells you the type of

1152
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: momentum that coaches want to get that thing in. Whether

1153
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: it's going to get approved or not, probably not. He

1154
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: didn't seem hopeful of it, but that they added that

1155
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: rule tells you where this is going, and eventually I

1156
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: think they will do it eventually, meaning this week, this year. No, No,

1157
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: I got it. It just doesn't seem to have that

1158
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: kind of momentum. Who knows. Maybe there's so much talk

1159
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: about it and lob going on that maybe you know,

1160
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: the competition committee or coaches or whomever, it's going to

1161
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: bend enough arms this morning here. I know it's not

1162
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: to do there, but maybe it'll been enough and it'll

1163
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: get through as it should. Nobody who thought that point

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00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: again at the end of the NFC Championship game is

1165
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: happy with the way that place stood. It cost a

1166
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: team a super bowler, especially Sean Payton's not happy, John,

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to disagree with you on that point,

1168
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: but I will say. I get the feeling that John

1169
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: or Sean Payton is an aggrieved party here and wants

1170
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: to take his grievances to a league wide level. A

1171
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: quote today from him where he says, I, if they

1172
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: don't change the replay system, ownership is saying they're comfortable

1173
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: with what happened a year ago. It's a bad call,

1174
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: it's a horrible call. It grievously impacted the New Orleans Saints.

1175
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean you got to change the rules.

1176
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: But Peyton is kind of pushing that. It seems that's

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Speaker 1: his agenda. Well, I don't think it's just his own.

1178
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: And here's the danger, guys, and I really believe it

1179
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: is the true. One coach told me that that Belichick,

1180
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: of course, was a few years ago submitted a proposal

1181
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: that would allow coaches to review anything or challenge anything,

1182
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: and that got blown out of the water. My understanding

1183
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: is that there's so many coaches that are enough of

1184
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: them at least, who are frustrated that the danger would

1185
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: be if they just all went off, forget it and

1186
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 1: do it. Beltic apparently have done, which it throws hands

1187
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: up in the air, and not even bother lobbying anymore.

1188
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: Are so frustrated with the slow moving competition Committee, which

1189
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I wrote the other day, if it challenge, If the

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00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: Competition Committee challenge a glacier to a race, the glacier

1191
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: would win and the owners would and the owners would

1192
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: cheer it. Yeah, yeah, exactly right. I mean, it's just ridiculous.

1193
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: So I think the danger is that you're going to

1194
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: have the coaches who really want to see this change,

1195
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: which I think most fans maybe not you, Murph, but

1196
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: both fands would want to see go through and allow

1197
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: these challenges that go through on a limited way that

1198
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't disrupt the game, doesn't. Here's the thing. I'm sorry,

1199
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt, John. Here's the thing. And are

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00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: we overreacting to a call that was I mean, I

1201
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: have not seen a non call. I can't remember ever

1202
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: ever seeing a non call penalty of any kind that

1203
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: was not called that egregious in my lifetime. I mean,

1204
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: it was the most egregious non call missed penalty I

1205
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: have ever witnessed. I was standing twenty yards away from

1206
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: it when it happened. I was there for doing work

1207
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: on the side, and it was it was after the

1208
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: five minute you know window we all came down to

1209
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: get postgame interviews and I was standing right there. It was.

1210
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. So what makes any of us think

1211
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: that this kind of egregious miscall is going to happen again,

1212
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: like next week? When you know, I don't think you

1213
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: should make an entire policy fundamental change the rules based

1214
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: on something that is so rare as to be almost

1215
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: non existent. It's been it's once in my life time.

1216
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: Is the only time I can't remember an egregious call

1217
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: like this ever in my lifetime. And I get it.

1218
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: It's an NFC championship game. I get it. It was

1219
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: on that you know, everybody was watching. It was. It

1220
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: was like a billboard for bad officiating. And it happened

1221
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: in the most it happened at the most hintopportune moment.

1222
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it doesn't happen that much. And see,

1223
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: that's the exact argument. I think that we're hearing from

1224
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: that side of the equation, which is the owner saying, well,

1225
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: exactly what you're saying if you put that in and

1226
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing here what they're thinking. But I'm presuming

1227
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: they're going to say all right, if you have a

1228
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: rule in like Sean was arguing for it this morning,

1229
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: that it's just for egregious calls, Well, what's egregious, right?

1230
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: You know, for if there's a if there's a very

1231
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: ticky tack call that that keeps a team out of

1232
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, then all those fans are gonna are

1233
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: going to think that it's Egregious's not gonna think They're

1234
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: not gonna think it's egregious. They're gonna think that that

1235
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: that's where they are. They're gonna think that's the worst

1236
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: call in the history of football, when everybody else will

1237
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: look had to go now a tack one one way

1238
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: or the other kind of call. So that's what it

1239
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: seems to me, the conservative nature of the Competition Committee

1240
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: and owners by extension, that that's what they're all afraid of,

1241
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: is that if you put in all these types of

1242
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: rules where you can fix something that's the judgment sick,

1243
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: then every time a game goes in as decided by

1244
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: any kind of call, people are gonna go wall walk them.

1245
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: They didn't exercise the you know, the great exception of

1246
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: bowling down and stopping to play with a sky judger.

1247
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: Whomever is going to eventually do this, that's going to

1248
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: be the top. The non call part, it scares me.

1249
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: I gotta confess, John, just that and you've seen it,

1250
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: and you've you've covered Canadian football. Ste've seen a lot

1251
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: of Canadian football with his son. But they're opening up

1252
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: to non calls. Throwing a replay flag and then having

1253
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: that play reviewed scares me as to what the implications

1254
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: might be. And yet Peyton said, and you just said,

1255
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: that's that's the third option. I guess that the owners

1256
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: who might have a chance to look at this week. Huh. Well,

1257
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: I think the way the Kreean Football League does it

1258
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: not that they're the end of all, because asking the

1259
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: CFL fan, right Steve about you know the nature of

1260
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: a FIA, and they'll say it has a long way

1261
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: to go. But the way that they limited that ability

1262
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: was the following I think it's really smart, not even

1263
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: as Sean about it this morning, and that is the

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Speaker 1: way they do. In the CFL. They have whatever the

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Speaker 1: central replay per View can review. Coaches can't challenge those,

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Speaker 1: and that's ninety percent of the reviews. Coaches cannot challenge

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Speaker 1: for those that strictly have to be blown down by

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Speaker 1: central replay, but the plays, the judgment plays that if

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Speaker 1: coaches can challenge, which is limited basically to defensive or

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Speaker 1: offensive past interference and I think refering the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: one or two other small things, that's all that coaches

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Speaker 1: can challenge, and they only have one challenge per game.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they're actually arguing that their their owners meetings

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Speaker 1: and rules meetings to expand to two per game. But

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Speaker 1: if you limit it to that, then we aren't going

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Speaker 1: to have all the delays that people are warning about.

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Speaker 1: Oh if you do that, and you'll you'll be throwing

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01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: flags left and right. Oh well, if you'll only go

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Speaker 1: one challenge per game, No, keep that in your pocket

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Speaker 1: until the last two minutes like in the NFC championship game.

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Speaker 1: And it would be nice if the NFL might consider

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: something like that so that coaches have a very narrow

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Speaker 1: purview of things that they can challenge and then hold

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Speaker 1: up for that one big one. Yeah, explain to me

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01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: the narrow purview of what they can challenge. You're saying

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Speaker 1: anything that can be challenged or fixed by the rep.

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Speaker 1: So the difference. The difference to me is that in

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Speaker 1: Canadian Football League there's a guy who will review it automatically. Yeah,

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01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: they're Central Replay Command their New York Center right that.

1290
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: The NFL has their their equivalent. They blow down for

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: things like judgment spots, anything like that. The coaches can't

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Speaker 1: challenge it. All the coaches can challenge are I believe

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01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: it's blocking down field. It's sort of like you know,

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01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: offensive pass interference and defensive pass interference roughing the quarterback,

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: and there's one or two other things very specifically divined.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, don't have that in front of me right now,

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: but that's all they can challenge. Everything else is a

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Speaker 1: purview of central replay, so the coaches can't complain about

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01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: essential replay doesn't In fact, that's what coaches usually do

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01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: do the equival about how can they didn't blow that

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: play down when it was, you know, clearly offside? What

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01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: have you? I think if they do it that way

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01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: they limited to one, not only would more coaches be

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: happy and fans, I think, but it would actually shorten

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01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: the game with fewer challenges. Right, we're on the line

1306
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: with John Crick, Toronto's sun NFL Connollness is at the

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Speaker 1: owners meetings in Arizona. Before we leave, the past interference

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01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: called John, you came up and wrote about some amazing

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: numbers which I wasn't aware of about not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: numbers of past interference calls, but the importance of past

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01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: interference calls. That got my attention. I'm sure it'll get

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Speaker 1: the owner's attention, right. Yeah, there was an internal document

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: that I got hold of that listed how important defensive

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: past interference or how much its impacts, and half of

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01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: all calls that are incorrect by the NFL effishing department

1316
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: when they review, you know, how how games were offishiated.

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: I forget how far I could goes, but going back

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01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: like three years, yes, sixteen years, sixteen, yeah, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

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01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: half of all incorrect calls are a defensive past interference

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01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and of and of half of all

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01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: game I think it was more than that. It was

1322
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: a story. I don't have the numbers in front of

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01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: seventy percent of all calls that impacted whether a team

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01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: one or not, the game winning chances. I think the

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: NFL called it were for DPI. That was stunning. You

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: found that tumor. Yeah, I didn't realize that, you know,

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01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: I found it stunning. You're right, I didn't realize that

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01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: they were that impactful. Those those past interference calls. Hey,

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01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: I wanted a lot go ahead just in the last

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Speaker 1: two minutes. Also there, Yeah, a lot of those are

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01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: happening in the last two minutes, which is what, of course,

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Speaker 1: when a close game has decided crazy. Here's another bit

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01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: of daddy. You came across on a different rule, the

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01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: overtime change proposed by the Kansas City Chiefs three prong

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: rule that would give both teams the chance to possess

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Speaker 1: at least once in overtime time, eliminate overtime in preseason.

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01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: Who would oppose that? And eliminate the overtime coin toss?

1338
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: But the first part both teams a chance. And Steve

1339
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this earlier. John, you have

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: numbers that kind of suggests what are we trying to

1341
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: fix here? Right? Overtime is not broken? What do you think?

1342
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: What did you find? What are those numbers? Do you

1343
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: have them in? And I could. I was really stunned,

1344
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: and I asked a few friends who are deep into football.

1345
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: I said, what do you think the percentages and the

1346
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: radio and the listeners can give a mental number to

1347
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: this right now? What percentage of the time. Do you

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01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: think the team that wins the overtime coin toss and

1349
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: accepts the ball the percentage of time that they score

1350
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Speaker 1: a touchdown? I had friends saying eighty percent, fifty five,

1351
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: seventy percent, it's actually going twenty percent one in five.

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01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: So in that light, shouldn't it The rule remained the same?

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01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: And John Peyton kind of touched on that this morning too,

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: He said, it's kind of exactly right, isn't it. You're

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01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: rewarding the team for that one in five time when

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01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: they're good enough to go down to score. So yeah,

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: and the game on that if they're good enough to

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Speaker 1: do it. What do you guys in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, the team that gets to kick off one

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01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: forty eight percent of the time and the team that

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Speaker 1: had to kick off one forty five percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: It couldn't get much closer than that job, It really couldn't.

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Speaker 1: So what you know, But you know, it's like people

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Speaker 1: see that what the Patriots did in the Super bowls

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Speaker 1: few years ago, and they won on that first possession

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Speaker 1: of over time. Then, of course in the AFC Championship

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01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: game two months ago, the same thing happened. So people

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Speaker 1: are extrapolating the successes of bringing the Patriots, which is,

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, not exactly something that you can translate across

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Speaker 1: to thirty two teams. They're looking at that and going, oh,

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Speaker 1: it happens all the time. Well, no, it doesn't. And

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Speaker 1: that's a chief proposal which I would guess is not

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Speaker 1: likely to go very far when the owners meet, what

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Speaker 1: do you think? No, No, and espect to correct. And

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Speaker 1: especially if we listen to what Sean Hayden, who is

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01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: not exactly a conservative member of that committee of these,

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: one of the eight men on the Competition Committee the

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Speaker 1: Sea saying, look, we don't really need to do this.

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Speaker 1: Then I can imagine any of the conservative members of

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Speaker 1: that committee, or the conservative number of owners, which is

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Speaker 1: the majority of the vast majority, I can't imagine that

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Speaker 1: rule will pass to it. John has been my stance,

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01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: even since the game happened between New England and Kansas

1384
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: City that the reason people are upset about the overtime

1385
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: rules is because that game actually did end. They wanted

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Speaker 1: to see pat mahomes, They wanted to see more of

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01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: that game. It was a phenomenal game. People wanted more

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01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: of it, and when it went away, without getting a

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Speaker 1: chance for Mahomes to come back on the field. They said,

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Speaker 1: let's change the rules so games like this can keep going.

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Speaker 1: And that's basically the sentiment. Well, and one thing, well,

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Speaker 1: and I'll shoot of that I was thinking of it is, Okay,

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: let's say they do past this rule and every team

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01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: is allowed in overtime to have the ball, the first

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: team scores a touchdown. And we see this in college

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Speaker 1: football with that equal rule. What happens if Pats Mahomes

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Speaker 1: would have got got the ball, they scored a touchdown

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Speaker 1: and they went for two and one? It how fair

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Speaker 1: is that to the Patriots? Right? I mean you can

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01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: you can go circularly on this and go, well, if

1401
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: they'd have got to two, if they'd known that the

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Speaker 1: chief were it was. But they wouldn't know that, right,

1403
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's final the way it is. The

1404
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: NFL does, at the competition committee and owners, they do

1405
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: seem to have the philosophy of if it's not broken,

1406
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: the very blast thing we're going to do is try

1407
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: to fix it. I think that that's going to apply today. Yeah, yeah, good,

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Speaker 1: by the way, And one more thing I got for you.

1409
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: You wrote pretty strongly that you believe that the sky

1410
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 1: judge concept is currently used in the Atlanta of American

1411
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: football should have a role to play in the NFL.

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01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: It's not likely to happen either right this week or anytime.

1413
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: Maybe no, And it's not even on the board unless

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: I mean, but we've seen like last year with that

1415
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: head down rule or the heads up or whatever you

1416
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: want to call it, they can come up with a

1417
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: rule proposal out of Finnair and get it passed all

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 1: within an hour and no one know about it ahead

1419
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: of time. I don't think we're going to see that

1420
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Speaker 1: because the Competition Committee, Rich Chairman Rich McKay, instead of

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Speaker 1: that conference call last Friday that the concept of a

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Speaker 1: sky judge had zero they didn't have any backing with

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Speaker 1: the committee. Good good stuff, and John, thanks for this.

1424
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Speaker 1: Have fun. If you can't out there in the eighty

1425
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: degree temperatures and jumping around from meeting room to room,

1426
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: you think they're voting probably today and what first thing

1427
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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning? Get some of these rules passed are dismissed. Yeah,

1428
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: the buzz is that they're going to try to get

1429
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: the sixteen I guess now seventeen with the last edition

1430
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: rule that they're going to look at plus by law

1431
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: proposals and resolutions, so they'd have a lot to get

1432
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: through today if they're going to get to them all,

1433
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: so I expected would spill over to tomorrow. But we

1434
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: should be hearing something, I would think on the replay,

1435
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: And if we don't hear anything today and replay, that

1436
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: would probably be a good sign that they're at least

1437
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: considering as strongly. Because they didn't vote on stay, they're

1438
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: going to think about it overnight a little bit. More So,

1439
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: if we don't hear any resolution today on the replay,

1440
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: my take would be that they're considering strongly. Okay, well

1441
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: look for that, John, thanks for this, good talking with you.

1442
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: Thanks guys. John Greig, Toronto soun NFL comlumnists. He's written

1443
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: several football history books college football historian covers the Bills

1444
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: a lot. Usually he does make a trip to Bill's

1445
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: camp every year and it goes to a lot of

1446
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: Bills games. So he's around from his post in Toronto

1447
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: and a huge Michigan basketball fan. He is Michigan football too,

1448
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: But look, um, we disagree on the replay, and he

1449
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: thinks it's good that they would open up. They would

1450
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: open up non calls to replay challenges. That's one of

1451
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: the that's the new proposal on the table. Now. We

1452
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: mentioned that right when we came on the air. I

1453
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's good. I think it's it's Pandora's box.

1454
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: It's something that you don't want to get involved in.

1455
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: What do you think, Steve, I don't know if you've

1456
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: hid your take on the sky judge. No, no, no,

1457
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking about replays for non calls. Yeah, and I

1458
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: think it is a bad idea. I like I said,

1459
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: when John was on that call that we're all talking

1460
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: about that brought this to the table, is so rare. Yeah, don't.

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a it warrants a policy issue

1462
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: or not. And that's not to belittle the impact it

1463
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: had on a team going to the super Bowl or not.

1464
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: The Saints very well could have been in the super

1465
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: Bowl because of that non or if without that non call.

1466
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: If that call would have been made properly and as

1467
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: easily as it was for everybody to see, and it

1468
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: was not made, the Saints certainly could have gone to

1469
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Um and you know Saints fans will

1470
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: say absolutely positivity, they would have but you know who

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: knows the thing that gets lost in this And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this too. The Rams at the other end

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01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: of the field, on the on the possession just before

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01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: this one, had another had an egregious miscall as well,

1475
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: a face mask on Jared Goff that was not called.

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01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: So the Rams can come back and say, hey, what

1477
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: about that? So, uh, they had to settle for a

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: field goal when in actuality they would have had a

1479
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: chance to score a touchdown if that call would have

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: been made. So it goes both ways. And if you're

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01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: gonna go non call, uh this this particular instance, it

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: goes both ways. Um, so I and as I just

1483
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: don't think this warrants a policy change. And I get it, man,

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: it was egregious. I don't know how. It was a

1485
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: horrible miscall. But you're not gonna you're not gonna change

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01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: everything to make sure a call that has happened once

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: and you're in my lifetime, you're gonna change everything just

1488
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: to make sure it doesn't happen again. You're just gonna

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: count on it not happening again. They might change, but

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: I hope they don't. I do too. We're gonna break

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01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: We're coming back. We'd like to hear from you which

1492
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: rule change needs to happen in the National Football League.

1493
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three five fifty and

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1495
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 1: I promised we're gonna hear from Sean McDermott and Brandon

1496
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: Mean from the owners meetings coming up in the next

1497
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. He around the show, So come on back.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health. From One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We're at the

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01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: halfway point of the show. One Bill's Live, that's what

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: we call it. We're coming to it. From One Bill's Drive.

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01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: John Murphy was Steve Tasker. Good conversation with John Crick

1503
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: talking about the rules changes. It was interesting. I don't

1504
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: think it will come out by three because that's only

1505
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: noon Arizona time, right, But by the time you wake

1506
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: up tomorrow, some of these things might be approved by

1507
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: the orders. I don't care. I mean, I do care,

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I mean, I think the fact that

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: some of them, like this fourth and fifteen thing is

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: a one year proposed as a one year experiment. Interferences

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, so they're not. I mean, John Crick

1512
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: said it. This league changes at a glacial pace, but

1513
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: it does change every year to some extent. It evolves,

1514
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: much like you know, the human race. I can, I

1515
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's just so slow, but it

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01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: does change a little bit every year. That's why I talk.

1517
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, the game I played twenty years ago is

1518
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: vastly different. Now it's vastly different, and it will continue

1519
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: to change and hopefully get better. What do you always say, um,

1520
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: they eventually get it right the NFL when it comes

1521
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: to eventually, Yeah, eventually, But like I said, like we've noticed,

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: it takes them ever. Oh my gosh, and I get too.

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01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: Some of it was technology, this replay thing. It was

1524
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: in the league, and then ninety two through ninety eight

1525
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: it was out. Yep, they didn't have replay, and then

1526
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: they put it back in when the technology caught up

1527
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: to the demands of what they wanted it to do,

1528
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: mostly about how quickly they could get it done. And

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: when that changed and caught up to them, they put

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01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: it back in. Remember the first they did have it

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01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: between what was it like, it was like eighty nine

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: through ninety two or something like that. For a couple

1533
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,799
Speaker 1: of years and it just took too long and they couldn't.

1534
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: They were delays or like eight minute delays in games

1535
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. It was really bad, so

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01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: they took it out and waited for the technology to

1537
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 1: catch up. Hey, this came up in the owners meeting yesterday.

1538
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: The league is obviously celebrating its one hundredth season this year.

1539
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: We've heard about that a lot NFL one hundred celebration.

1540
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Rochester are going to be part of it.

1541
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: On Draft Day weekend. Draft weekend, thirteen communities that were

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01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: home to four teams of the inaugural NFL season are

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01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: going to be celebrating this. So here's how it will work.

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: On Day three of the draft. Rochester and I'm not

1545
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 1: sure Buffalo is included in this, but Buffalo is one

1546
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: of the original towns. The hometown celebrations in these markets

1547
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: showcase the town's history alongside fans, NFL legends, celebrities, elected officials.

1548
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: Picks will be made live by all thirty two clubs

1549
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: in their local markets at special locations of their choosing

1550
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: on Day three. You've done this locally before you've done

1551
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: the Bill's draft pick. Get a oh yeah, where'd you

1552
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: do with the art museum or in history now? It

1553
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: was it was new yeah, newer head company. Kid. They

1554
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: had kid come in and design hats for the draft

1555
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: day kind of thing and we made I think two

1556
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: picks actually, yeah, down there. So it's gonna go on

1557
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: day three the draft Saturday, Draft weekend in Rochester in

1558
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: celebration of NFL one hundred thirteen original towns, including Buffalo,

1559
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: home of the Buffalo all Americans way back when when

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01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: pro football started, and Rochester, home of the Rochester Jefferson's

1561
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: are going to be honored, and I believe their draft

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: pick will be made in Rochester. That might be your

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: job again, Stevie, looking forward to Murph. We're gonna be

1564
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: on the air. Let me do this again. Let's do

1565
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: Let me begin a rehearsal. It might be your job, Steve, No,

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: sweet man, I can't wait. He'll be exciting at it.

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01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: That's great. It's coming up on draft weekend. We'll get

1568
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: more details as we get closer. The NFL owners meetings continue,

1569
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: which is also an opportunity for executives from all the

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01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: teams to meet with the media. Brandon Bean late yesterday

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: met with Buffalo media, including our group that was there,

1572
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: and he was He talked a little bit interesting comments

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01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: about being patient with this team. So much momentum going

1574
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: after a free agency and you can anticipate in a

1575
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 1: month when the draft comes around, the momentum will continue.

1576
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: Brandon being cautioned some patience as he gets into his

1577
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 1: third season as general manager of the Buffalo Bills, and

1578
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: he talks about what the type of feedback he gets

1579
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: from the ownership. Here's Brandon Bean. It's hard at times

1580
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: because you're competitive and you want to win. But if

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01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: you put a plan together and everybody's on the same page,

1582
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: and I think that's where Sean, myself and the Bagoulas,

1583
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: we all are in agreement on what this plan looks like.

1584
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: From at least when I got here till where we're

1585
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: at now. We've tried to methodically execute it. And listen,

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01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: I've made mistakes along the way and I'm probably gonna

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: make more. And you know, I appreciate Terry and Kim

1588
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: that they That's one of the things Terry said, He said,

1589
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 1: I can live with honest mistakes and you're gonna happen,

1590
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: and it's freeing to know that you don't have to

1591
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 1: feel like you're being judged every time you make a

1592
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: move and it doesn't work out exactly the way you thought.

1593
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm going to continue at times to

1594
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: be aggressive when it means to be aggressive. But we'll

1595
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: follow the plan, you know, as strict as we can,

1596
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully it ends up you know where

1597
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: we see. It sounds like a healthy approach, don't you think.

1598
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, Brandon says, I've made mistakes, and you know

1599
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: you I wouldn't call all of the mistakes, but you

1600
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: can look at you know, Corey Coleman last summer, last August,

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01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: and even Kelvin Benjamin. You know, they were dire receiving help.

1602
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: Things didn't work out. Brandon knows that. Most importantly, the

1603
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: people who employ you know, employ him, know that, and

1604
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: that's important right now. And there's no question that some

1605
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: of them are are calculated and they are a roll

1606
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: of the dice. Because here's the thing. You forget about

1607
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: guys like Calvin Benjamin and Corey Coleman and guys like that,

1608
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: if they come through and it turns out to be great,

1609
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: you've got a guy who is really gifted for nothing,

1610
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, the upside makes it worth the role of

1611
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: the dice. And I hate using the word roll of

1612
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 1: the dice because it is a little bit calculated, and

1613
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: he play the percentages. But you think that a guy

1614
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: like a Corey Coleman or Kelvin Benjamin, your culture is

1615
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: going to bring something out at him. They're going to

1616
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: find a place where they can thrive where they have

1617
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: never been able to thrive before, where they've struggled at

1618
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: times before, where they've haven't been able to keep it

1619
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: between the lines before. Josh Gordon's a great example, a

1620
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: guy who you know you're trying to get the most

1621
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: out of because he's physically gifted beyond belief, but he

1622
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: just can't get it together off the field. He can't

1623
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: bring the discipline that he brings on the field and

1624
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: the meanings off the field, and it can't keep stay

1625
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: on the field that way. So some of these guys

1626
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: are worth maybe rolling the dice knowing one and maybe

1627
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: for one or two guys you can take a chance

1628
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 1: and maybe your culture can support them and their and

1629
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: their talent and other and sometimes and so if you

1630
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,879
Speaker 1: if it does, you get a great player for no capital,

1631
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: no money, no draft picks, or whatever, or a low

1632
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: draft pick, so it's worth it. Yeah, but that doesn't

1633
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, and so being free to make

1634
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: those choices is important, I think for an organization. One

1635
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: of the things that I'll say we but I know

1636
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: I admire and appreciate about Brandon Bean and his group

1637
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: is how bold they are. They're not afraid to take

1638
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: chances with that in mind. There will be missteps, and

1639
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: there have been some. So I like the fact that

1640
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: he is an appreciation for the situation he's in being

1641
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: also now looks add to the draft, which is just

1642
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: about a month away, and he talks about the draft

1643
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: and the depth of certain positions in the draft, especially

1644
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Here's Brandon Bean. You've got to

1645
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: make sure you get the values on your board right

1646
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: on what fits you and not what everybody else sees.

1647
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: And if you think there's depth, which I would agree

1648
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: with you, on the defensive line, there there seems to

1649
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: be depth there. It doesn't. With the depth, it allows

1650
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: you not to put as much pressure that you've got

1651
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: to get a guy early. You know, some guys will

1652
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: fall because of depth, because as the draft goes along,

1653
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: people will tend to start drafting more towards need than

1654
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: they do early on. I mean, maybe some teams still

1655
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: draft for need in the first but I think philosophically

1656
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: you'll see once you start filling a couple of best

1657
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: player availables that do fill holes, towards the end of

1658
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: the draft, you do kind of have to start looking

1659
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 1: to need. So if there's truly depth at any position,

1660
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: d line or whatever, I think it allows you not

1661
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: to say, man, I've got to get him in the

1662
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: first or second round, or I'm not going to get

1663
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,480
Speaker 1: a guy that can help Brandon Bean as he approaches

1664
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: the draft. And he also mentioned yesterday that he's at

1665
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: this week at the meetings in Arizona, and they come

1666
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: back next week with the scouts and get to work

1667
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: on the board. You also talked about adding talent via

1668
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: a trade and being would not rule that out even

1669
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: at this late stage. Here's what the GM of the

1670
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: bill said about a possible trade yesterday at the meetings

1671
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: in Arizona. We have conversations with you know, this is

1672
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: a great spot for trades to happen. And I'm not

1673
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: saying there's anything browing, there's not. But if there if

1674
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: a GM, you know approached us. Now that there's a

1675
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: guy that we thought, hey, trade this to get this

1676
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: player that we think is an upgrade or an added competition,

1677
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, we would still look to make that move.

1678
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: So I feel better, but I still think we have

1679
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: a ways to go. That's fair to say. Yeah, I

1680
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: think it's interesting because all of us on the radio

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: and fans who call in and say, well, I think

1682
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: we should trade this guy for that guy, or that

1683
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 1: guy for this guy, or this guy's available, have we

1684
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: inquired about him? And I think it's safe to say

1685
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: this general manager and this head coach and this scouting staff,

1686
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: more so than any other I've ever seen inside this building,

1687
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: you can bet if a guy is available, they've inquired. Yeah,

1688
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: they're that. I mean they're active. I mean they find

1689
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: they go, they they pick up the phone all the time.

1690
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 1: That's one of the things I've gotten out of my

1691
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: interaction with them and their interviews and the interaction I've

1692
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: had with them personally. They find out they like, what

1693
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: do you think of him? What, let's let's call, let's

1694
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: see what they're looking for, you know, that kind of thing.

1695
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: So I think that to me, at least, you know,

1696
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: it's easy for us, you were one hundred miles away

1697
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: from all of these transactions, you know, even though we're

1698
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: in the same building, were light years from having a voice. Right.

1699
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: You always want to wonder. I wonder if they if

1700
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: they did it, and you can bet that, yeah, they

1701
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: are checking it out. After Antonio Brown, I don't wonder

1702
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: very often about right. I mean, they they're bold, they

1703
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: make moves, they want to find out. Yeah, Brandon being

1704
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: speaking at the owner's meetings, look like he was on

1705
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: a putting green or just after putting green at the

1706
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: Arizona builds. Some people practicing their strokes behind them. Have

1707
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: you ever been there a bit more? Yeah, I mean

1708
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: it's nice. I've never I've driven by it, been around

1709
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 1: it never been m It's very nice. Yeah. I wish

1710
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: someday again, Steve lobbying to go to the meetings, which

1711
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: you're not at the Arizona bill more every year, but

1712
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: every couple of years. Being nice too. The course is nice. Yeah,

1713
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: I played what's the course camel Back? Did you ever

1714
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: played there up in the hills right in Scott's Yeah,

1715
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: I played there, played camel back. It's very nice. There's

1716
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: I played Desert Mountain too, there's like three course, there's Cochise,

1717
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: a Rapahoe and a Patchie or sometime. I'm not sure.

1718
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: Three course. Don't you wish Phoenix and to Sound were closer?

1719
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Just a hike to get there. I wish they were closer.

1720
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: That means our weather would be better, right, Yeah, Yeah,

1721
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm in March and April. Yeah, but yeah, he get

1722
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: out there. It's it's it's great, it's nice. Yeah, it's

1723
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 1: nice to visit. Yeah. I like where I'm at me too.

1724
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: Being spoke late yesterday after the Rob Gronkowski news came

1725
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: out over the weekend, and he was asked by the

1726
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: media in Arizona yesterday, what are its thoughts on Rob

1727
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Gronkowski announcing his retirement if you could take Brady with

1728
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: him that hell? Uh but uh no, I mean Rob

1729
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: has had a heck of a career. Uh. He's obviously

1730
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: been a thorn uh in the whole league side, in

1731
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: the AFC East and the Bills even before I got there,

1732
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: and um, you know, he's he's a really good player.

1733
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: He's been I'm a big part of the success that

1734
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: that team has had, um, you know, on such a

1735
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: run since he got there. And so you know, you

1736
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: appreciate what he's done. Um. At the same time, am

1737
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: I said that he's retiring. No, Um, we'll welcome him

1738
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: back to Buffalo. We'll have some wings for him. He

1739
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: wants to come watch the game. Kind of what I

1740
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 1: said to you yesterday. And we're talking about Cronkowski. Uh,

1741
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: is this the first, you know, brick to fall? Maybe

1742
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: maybe the others follow. No, that's what you said when

1743
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: Welker left, you know, Daddy Woodhead left. You said when uh, yeah,

1744
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour left, and down the list, when the vrabel left.

1745
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: Let's go down the list. But Teddy Key retired. All

1746
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: those guys are gone, and they were all great players.

1747
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: They they kind of keep chugging all hope. It's the

1748
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: beginning of the hoodie. The hoodie is the key. Yeah,

1749
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: let me just tell you. I think the guy might

1750
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: be the key. He's not the key. We're gonna a

1751
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: break here. We're coming back. Which rule change needs to

1752
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: happen in the NFL. They've started to happen. We'll tell

1753
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: you what. There's a minor rule change that apparently has

1754
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: been approved by NFL owners. We'll talk about that when

1755
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: we return. One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health from

1756
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

1757
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. John Murphy Steave Tasker here until three o'clock.

1758
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: A lot of time coming up in the next hour

1759
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: and ten minutes or so to talk about the rules

1760
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: changes the NFL owners meeting in Arizona. Passing a couple

1761
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: already at today's annual meeting. Let me get these two,

1762
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: Stephen we'll discuss as much as we can decipher this

1763
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 1: at today's meeting. The owners to make permanent the kickoff

1764
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: rule changes that were implemented last year. The changes resulted

1765
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: in a thirty eight percent reduction and kickoff concussions as

1766
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: opposed as compared to twenty fifteen through seventeen, largely impacted

1767
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: by eliminating wedge blocks. That's interesting. Do you believe that

1768
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: reduction and kickoffs and concussions and kickoffs absolutely a lot. Yeah,

1769
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: I believe it because there were no more wedge blocks, right,

1770
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: what was the rule? It wasn't wedge blocks. Were they

1771
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: were trying to get rid of those early? It wasn't.

1772
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: The wedge blocks helped, But I think the biggest factor

1773
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: was that both the return team blocking and the coverage

1774
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: team running. They were running together instead of opposed. So

1775
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: what happens that it used to be you could line

1776
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: up back at the fifteen or twenty yard line, you'd

1777
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: retreat a little bit, and you'd come out and you

1778
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: had two guys on opposing teams that were running towards

1779
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: each other. Nobody was trying to avoid. They weren't trying

1780
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: to avoid each other. They're trying to hit each other.

1781
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: Now you've got two guys running the same direction, one

1782
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: still trying to block the other. But they're running the

1783
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: same direction, not opposing directions. So the collisions aren't the

1784
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: same as they were before. So I think that's one

1785
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: of the reasons. And now too, they're going to do

1786
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: something about blindside blocks too. Yeah, to expand protection of

1787
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: the player being blocked, the owners voted to eliminate blind

1788
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: side blocks. One third of all concussions on punts were

1789
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: called by blindside blocks. With a rule change, any forcible

1790
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: contact by the blocker with his head, shoulder, or forearm

1791
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: is prohibited. Yeah. That means, yeah, you can't light the

1792
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: guy up with your head, your forearm, or your shoulder.

1793
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: You can't come back and peel back and block the

1794
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 1: guy kind of moving towards your own goal line. That

1795
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: happens a lot, and it was, it has always been

1796
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: part of the game, and you gotta be you know,

1797
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: you could really catch guys who thought they were by

1798
01:28:55,680 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: themselves who got you know, got caught unaware. And that's

1799
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: that's when some dangerous things happen, when you can't prepare

1800
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: for a hit. Now, these are the rules changes that

1801
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: you You were part of the discussion last summer, right you.

1802
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: This one not so much. The peel black block not

1803
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: so much. It's been there for a while and some

1804
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: of these were watching on MSG UM. Some of them

1805
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 1: don't strike me as being egregious. Uh, you know, I

1806
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 1: guess they're gonna be called from now on, but I

1807
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I think what happens is they're asking the guys,

1808
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: the blocking and the protectors to kind of just shield

1809
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: the player pursuing the runner rather than making contact with him.

1810
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: So maybe it'll work, and I'm sure it'll make it

1811
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: the game safer. You won't see the you know, the

1812
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: egregious hits that you have before, or the big time

1813
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: hits you have before. Um, and you know, critics are

1814
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, it's not looking like it's looking less

1815
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: and less like football with this change. Maybe, um, I

1816
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: think you'd you'd be more happier to have the best

1817
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: players out there because they didn't get lit up like that.

1818
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Right yeah, all right to break here, we're coming back.

1819
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more are about the issue that's been

1820
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: on the table. The Twitter poll today deals with some

1821
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: of these changes that have been proposed, and we want

1822
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 1: to get your take on this, either on Twitter or

1823
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: on the telephone line. Give us a call eight oh

1824
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

1825
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Which rule change needs to happen

1826
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Is it the h Is that ours today? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1827
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: that's right. It is our city? Yeah? Is it? Um? No?

1828
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: This is the wrong? Which rule change needs to happen

1829
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Right now? And three it's the three choices.

1830
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: It's the oh gosh, now we're we're now we're a

1831
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: messing in or we're on on a limb. It's the

1832
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: fifteen yard conversion, the here we go offensive team and

1833
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: both teams need to possess the ball in overtime? Can

1834
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: you challenge replay on pass interference? And something else give

1835
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: us a call, we'll discuss One Wheels live from One

1836
01:30:55,720 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: Wheels Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network. Sports

1837
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Update comes from One Bill's Drive. The Buffalo Bills involved

1838
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL owners meetings going on, and Phoenix, Arizona

1839
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott met with the media today addressed

1840
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 1: a variety of topics. Well here are some of his

1841
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: comments coming up in this third and final hour of

1842
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: the show. Upcoming, the league's one hundred season will open

1843
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: with a one hundred ninety nine meeting between the Chicago

1844
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: Bears and the Green Bay Packers, the league announcing it

1845
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: will forego the traditional opening night matchup involving the Super

1846
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: Bowl winner, and the first game of the season will

1847
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,839
Speaker 1: be the Thursday of Week one. One of the NFL's

1848
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: classic rivalries will open the season Thursday, September fifth from

1849
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: Chicago Soldier Field in Primetime eight twenty when the Green

1850
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: Bay Packers play the Chicago Bears. The Super Bowl champion

1851
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 1: New England Patriots opened their season on Sunday Night football

1852
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 1: at home against an opponent yet to be determined. Sean

1853
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: McDermott tells the NFL Network of the league does not

1854
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: he changes to its instant replay system or officiating this

1855
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: offseason that an ownership is saying they're comfortable with what

1856
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: happened a year ago. He's referring a course to the

1857
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: mispass interference call that helped cost his team a trip

1858
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl in January. Peyton is a member

1859
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: of the NFL's Competition Committee, which is getting busy with

1860
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: rule changes. They proposed two expansions to replay for league

1861
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: owners to consider this week. Dolphins general manager Chris Greer

1862
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: the way he describes that Miami's front office is not

1863
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: going to tank this year. They're not actively working to

1864
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: lose games. He said, we're gonna keep building from day one.

1865
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: We made the change, and there's no tanking. You want tough,

1866
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: competitive guys who love football, and that's what he intends

1867
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,799
Speaker 1: to build at Miami this year. Eagles Executive vice president

1868
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: of football Operations Howie Roseman makes one thing perfectly clear.

1869
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 1: Signing quarterback Carson Wentz to an extension is a priority

1870
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: and central to the Eagles plan going forward, and Raiders

1871
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: coach John Gruden says Derek Carr will be our quarterback.

1872
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: That's what he said at the annual league meetings in Arizona.

1873
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: He says he's not going to address all the rumors.

1874
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 1: He could care less about the rumors. He says he's

1875
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 1: going with Derek car as the starting quarterback this year.

1876
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers and Ottawa tonight to wrap up a three

1877
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: game road trip, face up seven thirty tonight. The Savers

1878
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: last night lost in New Jersey. Three one. That's the

1879
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: update from One Bill Drive, John Murphy Steve Tasker in

1880
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio ready for an hour three With

1881
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: a lot on the table today, we want to get

1882
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: from you what rule change needs to happen in the NFL.

1883
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: That's our Twitter poll. Let's check that out. What rule

1884
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: change needs to happen in the NFL. Some of them

1885
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: are on the table, including the next couple of minutes

1886
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: here or at least this afternoon. We believe they're going

1887
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: to meet till around noon today in the NFL. The

1888
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: NFL owners considering some of the rule changes. What do

1889
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 1: you think fourth and fifteen conversion? Is that one of them?

1890
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Right now? Fourteen percent of you say that's the change?

1891
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: Fourth and fifteen conversion in the fourth quarter, just one

1892
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: per game? You think you run a play on fourth

1893
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: and fifteen as opposed to attempting an onside kick after

1894
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: you score a point. Fourteen percent of you then say

1895
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: that's the one overtime both teams possess. That's the Kansas

1896
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 1: City Chiefs proposal. Fifty five percent of you say that's

1897
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: the way to go. I don't know about that. I

1898
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't think you need to touch overtime.

1899
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: But we'll get back to that. Replay on pass interference,

1900
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: twenty three percent of you say that's the way to go.

1901
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Other eight percent of you say that's the way to go.

1902
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three five fifty and

1903
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: twelve three one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1904
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: We got to recap some of the statistics we've read

1905
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: off earlier in the show. The replay on pass interference

1906
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: has been it's been done by study over the last

1907
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: three years that almost seventy percent of the wrong calls

1908
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: that affect the outcome of games have been on pass

1909
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: interference calls, defensive pass interference calls. So they want to

1910
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: make it a concerted effort to get those right this

1911
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: overtime when both teams possess situation, both teams do have

1912
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: the right to possess the ball in overtime unless the

1913
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: team that hasn't first scores a touchdown, and everybody says, well,

1914
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: it happened in the In the AFC Championship game this year,

1915
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: New England beat the Chiefs because they the Chiefs never

1916
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: had a chance to possess the football. Well, that only

1917
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: happens one in five overtime time games where the team

1918
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: that gets the opening kickoff goes down, scores a touchdown,

1919
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: game over and the other team doesn't have to get

1920
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: It only happens once out of every five games, twenty

1921
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: percent of the time, and in fact forty eight percent

1922
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: of the time is opposed to forty three forty eight

1923
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: to forty five percent. I believe, I don't know. It's

1924
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: a coin flip as to which team who wins the ball,

1925
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 1: or wins the coin toss, or gets the ball in overtime.

1926
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: It's a coin flip as to which one of those

1927
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 1: teams is gonna win. It doesn't happen all that often

1928
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: that the team who wins the toss goes down, scores

1929
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: a touchdown, the other team doesn't get the ball. It

1930
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Happen four out of five times, four out

1931
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: of five times that never happens. That one team never

1932
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: gets to possess the ball. So and the fourth and

1933
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 1: fifteen conversion that's on instead of an on site kick

1934
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 1: you would allow, you'd be allowed to take your offense

1935
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: back out onto the field, and that this isn't Now

1936
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: remember the two. This is an offense that just scored,

1937
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 1: so they got a little momentum. They got to go

1938
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: back out on the field instead of trying an onside kick.

1939
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: They get a chance to convert a fourth down and

1940
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: fifteen yards to go for a first down. If they

1941
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: get it, they stay on the field and they continue

1942
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: down the field and try and score again from their

1943
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 1: own thirty five yard line. If they don't get it,

1944
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 1: then the team that defended it gets the ball right

1945
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: where they were down and they get to go in

1946
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: and either lengthen their lead or run out the clock.

1947
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 1: So all of those things are that's kind of the

1948
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: context of each of those choices. There's a lot of

1949
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: rule changes in place. None of these I think, you know,

1950
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: the more we talk about them, The one that really

1951
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 1: would affect the game during that you'll see a lot

1952
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 1: is replay on pass interference you're not going to see

1953
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: that much many overtime games. We don't see it that much.

1954
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 1: You see him once in a while. And the on

1955
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: side kick, you still only have a chance to see

1956
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: one a game. You know, the one team that's gonna

1957
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: try and do it, You're gonna see one a game.

1958
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: So these choices and these rule changes are going to

1959
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: be rare instances where you see them in action, unless

1960
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: it's you start to replay or challenge defensive pass interference,

1961
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: which is a first in the NFL. And it's important

1962
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: to note too that the um the one change is

1963
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: presented by the Competition Committee, which historically gives it more

1964
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 1: merit when it comes to a vote by the owners,

1965
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: the one change, and regarding the fourth no, not the

1966
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen, the the the past interference call. Right, yeah,

1967
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: now that's too. That goes down a place to the

1968
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: past interference challenge goes down a road where the NFL

1969
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: has very been very reluctant to head down. It's being

1970
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 1: able to challenge a call that was not made on

1971
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 1: the field. Um, it looked like that was not going

1972
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: to be the case. Whether you'd have to wait until

1973
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: a call, you'd have to get it reversed rather than

1974
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: called uh. And now they added the fact that it,

1975
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: you know, would be after a meeting last night according

1976
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 1: to John Crick. Yeah, he was our guest last hour.

1977
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you think about all this

1978
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: lines open eight o three five fifty toll free one

1979
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You're like talking

1980
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: about rule changes. I mean I kind of do. I

1981
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 1: do too, I gotta admit it. I'm for a lot

1982
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: of people a casual fan are like, just you know what,

1983
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 1: I'll see it when it comes on the games, you know,

1984
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: in the fall, I'll ketch up to it, you know.

1985
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: For me, I kind of like to. I like to

1986
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: talk about it because I like to try and figure

1987
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 1: out the unintended consequences of some of these changes they're

1988
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: you know, that they are considering, and also the reasons

1989
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: they got here. Yeah, so I agree that's as interesting

1990
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: as the results. You and I have had this discussion before,

1991
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: and I want to get some calls and some tweets

1992
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 1: to read here in a second. The NFL, I think

1993
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: maybe alone in the major professional sports world, is open

1994
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 1: to change every offseason. They're open to change sometime really

1995
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: significant changes. Some people don't like that. I used to

1996
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: be among those that said leave the game alone, the

1997
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: game's fine. But I think I've heard you make the argument,

1998
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: like in the past, that the NFL being that open

1999
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: to change is a good thing. They respond to kind

2000
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: of conditions and trends in the game, right you believe that.

2001
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: I think that alone, that maybe not alone. There are

2002
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: three things, maybe just a small group of things factor

2003
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,759
Speaker 1: in the NFL that have made it the eight hundred

2004
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: pound gorilla on the American sports landscape. Their ability to

2005
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 1: change the game and let it evolve and give fans

2006
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: more of what they want and less of what they

2007
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: don't want has made it the eight hundred pound guerrilla

2008
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: and this twenty five billion dollars a year business that

2009
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: we know. The crucial part of that is that the

2010
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 1: game has changed. When people have become accustomed to it

2011
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: and they want it to improve in certain areas, the

2012
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,560
Speaker 1: league will evolve into those changes and give people what

2013
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: they want, so they in essence buy more viewers, they

2014
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: buy more interest with their ability to change, and I

2015
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: think that's been an absolute key ingredient to their growth

2016
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: over the decade. Some people feel differently, and I will

2017
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 1: read you a tweet from the tweet sheet from someone

2018
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 1: who I believe feels differently. Nick Blake tweets and they

2019
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: don't need to change the game. Whatever happened to accountability

2020
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: and actually putting it together a team that can win consistently.

2021
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: The Saints didn't lose that game based on a bad call.

2022
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 1: How many interceptions did Breeze throw? Penalties did they have?

2023
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't have those answers, but I get Nick Blake's point,

2024
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 1: which is leave the game alone. Pretty successful, very popular,

2025
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 1: certainly not getting less popular despite some of these moves,

2026
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,799
Speaker 1: including the bad call, the horrible call in the Saints

2027
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. Why would you need to change anything?

2028
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: I understand when people say that. I think one of

2029
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: the things that the league changes into is because they

2030
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:27,719
Speaker 1: evolve away from the frustration people feel. This huge amount

2031
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: of frustration that everybody felt over the Saints getting absolutely

2032
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 1: well say, cheated out of the trip to the ostensibly

2033
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: out of a trip to the super Bowl. And there's

2034
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: a lot of things that go into that, but but

2035
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: simplifying it, everybody says the Saints should have been in

2036
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. The Rams shouldn't have because of that

2037
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 1: one bad call, and that leaves a lot of frustration,

2038
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 1: even for casual fans. They think they don't want to

2039
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: see it unfair. So in the league opens it up

2040
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: and says, listening, we're trying to fix all these problems.

2041
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that. It alleviates the poor feelings or

2042
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 1: the frustration fans have towards the game and smooth the

2043
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: way for them to become bigger fans. So I think

2044
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: it's all part of the league's growth mindset. They want

2045
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: to get better. Yeah, they want to get better and

2046
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: want to make more money. And that's it, and it

2047
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: does listen, that's yeah, that's that's what motivates it. Yeah,

2048
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: because they know they've seen it in the past. Yeah,

2049
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: the way that that they are covered on television. They

2050
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: cut the games down so they can absolutely fit in

2051
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: a three hour window for TV. Because people want that

2052
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 1: packaged in a nice, neat little and be able to

2053
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: tie a bowl around it. All of these little things

2054
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 1: that are outside the lines have been structured over the

2055
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,839
Speaker 1: years to make it palatable and for people to digest

2056
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 1: it and to win casual fans who may be on

2057
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: the fence or maybe it just died in something else.

2058
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 1: They're listen these they're good. They are really good at

2059
01:41:56,600 --> 01:42:00,560
Speaker 1: staying on top. And I think the reason, being a

2060
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: couple of reasons, is the fact that they give people

2061
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: what they want. Yeah. One more from the tweet sheet,

2062
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 1: which I partially agree with. This one from Brad. With

2063
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,560
Speaker 1: the revenue the NFL brings in, they should be exhausting

2064
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: every avenue to put the best full time refs on

2065
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: the field. I agree. He goes on to say replay

2066
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: should be used to make sure human error is removed

2067
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: as the cause of an outcome to a game. The

2068
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: NFL owes this to the fans, players and coaches. That's

2069
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: from Brad. I agree with the first part, disagree with

2070
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: the second part. Replay I don't think is capable of

2071
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 1: making sure the human error is removed. I don't think.

2072
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: I think it adds another layer of human error. Many

2073
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 1: times replay does. But I certainly agree with Brad that

2074
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: they should put full time refs on the field, trained

2075
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: all year, working most of the year, working in the

2076
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: Alliance of American Football. In any other professional leagues, they

2077
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 1: want conditioning work, obviously, but training, you know, getting in

2078
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: game time situations. How can the NFL the most profitable

2079
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 1: sport in the world. How can they I have full

2080
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: time officials Baseball does basketball, does hockey does what? I

2081
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: don't get that. I think full time people say, well,

2082
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: why what would they do? They'd find plenty to do.

2083
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: They can sit in the classroom and review video. They

2084
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: can review their own games, they can look at potential,

2085
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: they can weigh in on rules change proposals. I'd be

2086
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 1: happy to hear what professional officials have to say about that.

2087
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: There'd be a lot for them to do on a

2088
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: full time basis. I know this too when when I

2089
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: went to the kickoff summit last offseason when they changed

2090
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 1: the kickoff rules to make them safer. There were sixty

2091
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 1: people in the room. Fifty to sixty people in the room,

2092
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,560
Speaker 1: and a number of them a contingent was from the

2093
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 1: officiating department. Alberto Riveron was there, some lead officials where

2094
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: their guys, long time officials were there, even older officials

2095
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: were there, and they had a big voice in how

2096
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 1: difficult it was going to be to implement this and

2097
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 1: get it right, and what their mechanics were going to

2098
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: be to officiate the new coverage rules and a new

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Speaker 1: return roun the absolutely and it was interesting too. It

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01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: became it became a legal matter and how they were

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01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna word the rules in the book. They sat there

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01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half after we were done

2103
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 1: with the meeting, trying to get the language of the

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01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: rule correct and which it sounds, you know, like a

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01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 1: little minutia. They were, they were on it. You know,

2106
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: they didn't take it. They were taking no prisoners. They

2107
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: want to get it right. And so there's no question

2108
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I think, and I agree, we've agreed with this for

2109
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 1: a long time. Make them full time, get get some

2110
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: guys in there. There's plenty for them to do. This

2111
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: game is so complicated. They've got to make sure that

2112
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: they get it right. And I and to a large extent,

2113
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I agree with the tweet from Brady said, listen, you

2114
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: replay should be used to make sure human errors are

2115
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: moved as the cause of an outcome of a game.

2116
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 1: Human error, yes, but human judgment no. You got to

2117
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: have it in there. You've and I've always been a

2118
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: because maybe because I was not a gifted player. You

2119
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 1: got to call the rules like they're supposed to be

2120
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 1: called all the time everywhere. And this is one of

2121
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 1: the big problems I have with the hockey. They trumpet

2122
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: the fact that, hey, in the third period, it's up

2123
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: to the players. The officials may as well go home, right, Yeah,

2124
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: that's to me, that's stupid, it's ridiculous. It borders on egregious.

2125
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: In the NFL, you need those guys calling the penalties

2126
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter just like they did in the

2127
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: third quarter, in the second quarter, in the first quarter,

2128
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 1: in overtime, exact same way. You need those rules enforced

2129
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 1: all the time, every play, no matter what. And I

2130
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: that's got to be paramount. And I think if you

2131
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 1: can and I'm I don't want to say I'm not

2132
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: sold on it, but replay if you can get it

2133
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: where it it's smooth, seamless, quick, we don't have to

2134
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: We don't have to. It doesn't get messy, and they

2135
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: can get it right, can get it right. I don't care.

2136
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: But I don't have to sit there as a viewer

2137
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 1: or a fan and watch these guys look over a monitor,

2138
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 1: Like the official comes over and now he's got the

2139
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: headphones on. Is this big production? Where he going? Just hey,

2140
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 1: just have the official get buzzed. Have the guy said, hey, listen,

2141
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 1: it needs to be spotted. On the thirty five that

2142
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: was a fourth and ten, it's a bad call. Take

2143
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: it back. It should be third and ten on the go,

2144
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: and they just do it and you'll say and you'll say, hey,

2145
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 1: through replay officiating, this is the right call here. We're

2146
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna go from here. Ye do it. Yeah, if you

2147
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 1: want to replay, here's a call from Dan and Florida. Hello, Dan,

2148
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,680
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Hey Steve to that point, Um,

2149
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, I talked to coach twice on an NFL

2150
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: radio this morning, and you know, and he said it

2151
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 1: was so much better in college when you didn't have

2152
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: the eye in the sky. And what really convinced me

2153
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,759
Speaker 1: is the first week of the double as. Yeah, instead,

2154
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 1: I watched this and by the kind of cool female

2155
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: referee in the booth and they televised it and she

2156
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 1: actually overturned a call and said, yeah, that's a touchdown,

2157
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 1: and you know, gave all the reasons why. My point

2158
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 1: is this is that why don't they have transparence in

2159
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 1: the top And it doesn't delay the game because Paulian

2160
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: has said a number of times we are limited to

2161
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: two and a half hours, and so that's it, and

2162
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 1: it does speed things up. They automatically review it Mike

2163
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 1: Perrera on the NFL usually tells you, within like ten

2164
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 1: seconds on a controversial call, which one is right, which

2165
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: one's wrong. So this New York thing, it doesn't make sense,

2166
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: and walking over to the booths and everything else, and

2167
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: just give it up, man, you know, put the best

2168
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 1: refereere judge in the booth and he let him make

2169
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: the call and overturn it if he needs to be overturning.

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01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: If it doesn't, it doesn't you know darn well that

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01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 1: New Orleans would have won on that one if you

2172
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: have that. Well, I don't know, Dan, I really don't.

2173
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Because a series earlier, they missed a call on Jared

2174
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,600
Speaker 1: Goff and Goff got a face mask that should have

2175
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:54,560
Speaker 1: been called. It wasn't called. Nobody's nobody's winding about that

2176
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: because the Rams won the game, and they might have

2177
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: been up by more points and the paid the Saints

2178
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 1: might have been in desperation mode at that point. Instead

2179
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: of having a field goal, they would have had a

2180
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: touchdown or at least an opportunity to score touchdown. So

2181
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: that call was missed as well. Nobody's complaining about that

2182
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 1: because it happened earlier in the game. And another thing

2183
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: about that it you were talking about it. You know,

2184
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't delay the game. It doesn't. Here's one of

2185
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,440
Speaker 1: the thing too, I think the league is really reluctant,

2186
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: and I think you can see why they don't want

2187
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 1: to make the officials be in New York and not

2188
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 1: right there in the stadium. You know what I mean. Well,

2189
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: they are the replay officials. That's all coming out of

2190
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 1: New York. There's nobody on the field though. I mean,

2191
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the guys on the field, but what

2192
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: are you gonna do when the authority comes out? And

2193
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: I get it. Mike Pereira is very good. Dean Blandino

2194
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 1: is the best guy I've ever seen do it. When

2195
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 1: he comes in, he knows what he's doing. And both

2196
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 1: those guys got plucked by broadcast. And now you've got

2197
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 1: Alberto Riveron, in my opinion, is not as good as

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01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: those two guys. In fact, he's the guy that didn't

2199
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: give the Kelvin Benjamin catch in the back of the

2200
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: end of one. He missed it. Yeah, so you got

2201
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: you got a guy in New York who's not as

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01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,879
Speaker 1: good because they really good guys got taken by the networks.

2203
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 1: Now you got a guy actually who has some authority

2204
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 1: to make something happen. He's not as good. So what

2205
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: are you saying. I'm saying that's not a good idea.

2206
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 1: It's not a solution. It's not a solution. Call it

2207
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: on sight. You're saying, as opposed to in New York,

2208
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: you don't have enough guys that can do it well.

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01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 1: If you make the three best guys not good enough,

2210
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 1: train them, make them full time, train them all, train

2211
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 1: them all, find the best guy. Well, I don't know,

2212
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I'm not. Here's the thing.

2213
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't care. Yeah, getting it right, I think everybody

2214
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: can get it, can like say, live with getting it right?

2215
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,760
Speaker 1: How how hard is it gonna be? And what's the

2216
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: game gonna look like when that happens? I mean, you

2217
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. When they use replay away from everybody,

2218
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 1: when they're doing it on their own thing, when they

2219
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 1: don't have to bother the game, and they just buzz

2220
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,639
Speaker 1: down all of a sudden, say hey, hey you missed

2221
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 1: this between plays, how hard is it going to be

2222
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 1: to get the fans in the stands to say, who wait, whoa, whoa?

2223
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: That was a big long pass play. Why are you

2224
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 1: bringing that back? What happened? What's gonna you know? Now

2225
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: you gotta explain it, you got it because people don't

2226
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: want to sit there and have you take a great

2227
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: playoff to not know why. Well, it's already you going

2228
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: on that way. The calls made in New York and

2229
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: the referee on site explains it. It's already going on. Yeah,

2230
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: let's go to Sean and Lackawanna. Hello, Sean, Hey, guys,

2231
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: how are you good? I would like to see uh,

2232
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: sixty plus yard kicks worth six points. I think it's

2233
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 1: an amazing feat. Any time a kicker goes out there and, uh,

2234
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: you know, kicks a sixty yarder and I would like

2235
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 1: to see see that be worth six points and it's not.

2236
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 1: Then the other team, you know, gets that field of position,

2237
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 1: and there's no need for you know, a a point after.

2238
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 1: It's just treat it like a normal point during the

2239
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: game and kick off after that. I wonder how many

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01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: of those it would be? Sean? What do you think, Sean?

2241
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: What are you about? What about instead of making it

2242
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: a six point? I don't I don't have a problem

2243
01:50:51,640 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: with that. A sixty yard or six points? What about

2244
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 1: a fifty yard or being worth five points of forty

2245
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 1: being four and thirty being thirty right three? Right? Are

2246
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: you up for that game? Yeah? No, I'm not. I

2247
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. That's you'd have a lot

2248
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: more kicks, feel goals. Too much attempted might be well,

2249
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, though, you're not going to try it

2250
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: on third down. No, too much kicking. I don't want to,

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01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,560
Speaker 1: you know. No, too many points is what it is.

2252
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:19,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you made fifty sixty yards? Interesting?

2253
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. That's an interesting point. Sean Yeah.

2254
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 1: From the tweet sheet on this question Jeffrey Olman, we

2255
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 1: asked the question which rules change needs to happen in

2256
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. Jeffrey Olmans's review of pass interference calls related

2257
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: to contact. They happen fast, and calls are often wrong.

2258
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 1: Hits of all types can be penalties that have the

2259
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 1: effect of given the offense a new set of downs,

2260
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: which equal to turnover. Penalizing defenders for doing their job

2261
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 1: well and legally is bad for the game. So what

2262
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: he's saying, don't have replay used on pass interference. They

2263
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,560
Speaker 1: do happen fast, calls are often wrong. You had the

2264
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 1: numbers that demonstrated that Steve Wright seventy hits of all

2265
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: types can be leads it to be effective given the offense.

2266
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't understand that. College. Well, here's

2267
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: the things. Here's one of the and I've brought this up.

2268
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 1: You can always if you're gonna be able to challenge

2269
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: non calls, there are certain parameters that you have to

2270
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: put in place, because you can say, hey, they caught

2271
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass against us, but their offensive tackle was holding.

2272
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 1: We want that called bring it back? You're that kind

2273
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 1: of thing. Does it have to be on the ball?

2274
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 1: You know, does the penalty that you're reviewing and in

2275
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: this case you're saying just defensive or offensive pass interference?

2276
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 1: You have to review that and see what it is.

2277
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: But does it have to be on the ball? Can

2278
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 1: it be on the other side of the field where

2279
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 1: the guy was holding this receiver from being open, forcing

2280
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback to throw it over there? You know? Can

2281
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 1: you can you review that as well? I mean that

2282
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: now you're you're down, You're you're down a dark tunnel

2283
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: with no way out. You know, that's that's where you're headed.

2284
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 1: And it's it's we've said it a million times. It's

2285
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: the law, it's the rules of unintended consequences. You make

2286
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: these changes thinking you're fixing a problem, and you open

2287
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: up a can full of problems, and that's where nobody

2288
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 1: wants to go. And I think that's why the league

2289
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: changes so slowly. In some cases, they just don't want

2290
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: to because they know the game more than anybody, and

2291
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: they see things on the horizon with these changes that

2292
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: they're not sure they want any part of, so they

2293
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 1: don't make those changes. Give us a call, let's know

2294
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 1: what you think. Which NFL rules change needs to get past.

2295
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:32,480
Speaker 1: There's a couple on there's a couple on the proposal

2296
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 1: list for the owners meeting right now as we speak

2297
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 1: in Arizona. This just came across Adam Schefter reporting that

2298
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: the Bills planned to release Chris Ivory later today, per

2299
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 1: a league source. With the signing of Frank Gore, Chris

2300
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Ivory running back apparently has become expendable, and Adam Schefter

2301
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: reports that Chris Ivory is going to be released by

2302
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Pills. Yeah, any instant reactions to that, STEVEE,

2303
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: would you like to take the next five minutes and

2304
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: think it over during the break. I do not have

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Speaker 1: any immediate reaction, although I will when we get back. Okay,

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01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: Steve's gonna take the next five minutes and goes into

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01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 1: deep thought. I'm gonna go I'm gonna get a snack.

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01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 1: I hadn't drink of water, and then I'm I'm gonna

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01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 1: mold that over. Chris Ivory to be released because of

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01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 1: the signing of Frank Gore. It's not well, it's not

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01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 1: a shock. I mean, it's not a Are you really

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01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: back on your heels from this one? No, not really.

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01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: We'll discuss think about it. No, No, I don't need

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01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: instant Well, hey, it's it's a team. I gotta think

2315
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 1: about I gotta I gotta digest it and make sure

2316
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 1: I gotta handle it. I don't there's no get it,

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01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 1: I get it. Get it. Yeah, he was good. I

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01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 1: mean he in a year where it was very difficult

2319
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: to get yards. That guy ran hard for this team.

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01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 1: It's it's so hard to see him go. But I

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01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 1: see that a lot. Listen. I gotta wait a break,

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01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 1: and then Steve's reaction to what Adam Schefter reports Frank

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01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Gore's signing the end, No, nothing urting coming coming back.

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01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: We are gonna hear from Sean McDermot coming back though,

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01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: So come on back for that UM, Frank Gore uh

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: signing and Chris Ivory to be released by the Bills.

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01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 1: According to Adam Schefter that when we returned One Bills

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01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: Live presented by Collata Health from One Bill's Drive, this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, One Bills five. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Murphy. This is Steve Tasker. We're here for another

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01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: half hour or so talking about the Bills in the

2332
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: NFL and the tweet that came out from Adam Schefter

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01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: within the last couple of minutes here regarding the Buffalo Bills,

2334
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:34,040
Speaker 1: Schefter reports that the Bills are planning to release um

2335
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory Schefter's tweet out about ten minutes ago. With

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01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: the signing of Frank Gore, the Bills are planning to

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01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 1: release Chris Ivory today, per league source. Steve I had

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01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 1: yeah when when I first read that before the break,

2339
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I had a hard time getting my

2340
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: mind around it, because, well, we've been going through this

2341
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 1: free agent period and the Bills have signed all these

2342
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 1: guys and it's been great. We're getting bitten better and

2343
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 1: I've reas a good player, and so it's it caught

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01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 1: me off guard that you gotta say goodbye to a

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01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: really good player, and I forget you know, we do that,

2346
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: We've done that before, we do it all. You do it.

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01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 1: Every year. There's gonna be good players that you lose,

2348
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: either in free agency or whatever to injury, and Ivory's

2349
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: one of the I think Ivory's the first guy. I mean,

2350
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: they've released other guys as well, but Ivory's the first

2351
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: guy that at times this last season he was their

2352
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 1: most effective offensive player. Yea, And yeah, they got to

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01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: say goodbye to him, and I get it, but it

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01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 1: did catch me off guard because we've been talking so

2355
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: much about getting better here, getting better there, getting better here,

2356
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 1: getting better there. Signed this guy that's better, this guy's good,

2357
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: this got some depth. Now we're doing good and all

2358
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you gotta say goodbye to a good player. Uh,

2359
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 1: it caught me off guard. I gotta say it. You know,

2360
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: we don't. Obviously, it's not unusual. He've added Frank Gore

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01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 1: to go along with LaShaun McCoy. Chris Chris. Ivory just

2362
01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 1: turned thirty one years old last week, so age is

2363
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 1: a fact, the cap you would think is a consideration here.

2364
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 1: Ivery had a pretty good year for the Bills last year.

2365
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Played in UM all but how many games here? All

2366
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: but one, two, three, three games? So he played in

2367
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: thirteen games. UM. His best game was against the Colts

2368
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: sixteen carries, eighty one yards, scored one touchdown. That came

2369
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: in Week two against the Chargers. You know, he was

2370
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 1: a good backup last year. I don't know if you

2371
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: will you miss him, if you have Frank Gordy, A

2372
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: miss Chris Ivory. It remains to be seen. But it's

2373
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: hard to think that you're gonna be like next year.

2374
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been down this road before. UM. You know,

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01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Carlos Williams, Mike Gillislie, all those running backs we've had

2376
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: over the last handful of years who you know, did

2377
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: some good things. One year, said goodbye to him and

2378
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: then he's like, oh we got we got another one,

2379
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, So Chris Ivory might fall into that category, although,

2380
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 1: like I said that, there were times last year when man,

2381
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: I was glad we had him. So every time you

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01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 1: lose a good player, which I think he is and

2383
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 1: I think I still think he is, it's hard, hard,

2384
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: to get your mind around and say that we're better

2385
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 1: because he's not here. So a Schefter report that Chris

2386
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: Ivory is going to be released, he says later today

2387
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: that made possible by the addition of Frank Gordon the roster.

2388
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: We'll see if it no reason to down to Adam

2389
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 1: Schefter on this, but we'll see when it comes becomes official.

2390
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott did not mention this when he talked to

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01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: the media today in Arizona, but he didn't talk about

2392
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 1: the dozen or so signings the Bills had in free

2393
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 1: agency over the last couple of weeks. Sean McDermot addressing

2394
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 1: the media, most of it Buffalo media at the owners

2395
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 1: meetings in Phoenix City. Here's what he said. I felt

2396
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 1: overall just you know, we were able to add players

2397
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,919
Speaker 1: that fit our DNA and look, it's always a projection,

2398
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: right because of just the way free agency is. That said,

2399
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 1: we feel like we were able at this point to

2400
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: add players that love to compete, love to work hard,

2401
01:58:55,720 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 1: and you know it can help our football team in

2402
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form in some fashion. So, um,

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01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 1: the biggest thing with it is there's a projection, right

2404
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 1: like there always is with free agency. The biggest thing

2405
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 1: we've got to do is integrate them into the guys

2406
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 1: we already have, and and that takes time. And every

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01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 1: year you've got to build a team. And I've said

2408
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 1: this before, You've got to build a team, put a

2409
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 1: team together, build the chemistry, get to know one another.

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01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 1: And so that that's a process that takes time for

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01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 1: you defensive minded. And last year's focus was on defense.

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01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 1: But to go with what twelve offensive players to three

2413
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 1: put the usis from your standpoint, did you feel you

2414
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 1: your defense got a little neglected and how and how

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01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 1: do you how do you sort of trying to address that? Yah?

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01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:52,880
Speaker 1: You know, look, we were out to find the best

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01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 1: players we could that could help our football team. And

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01:59:56,080 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 1: we acknowledge that there were significant whole on the offensive

2419
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: side that said, I don't I don't think necessarily we

2420
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 1: were out to say we have to ignore the defensive

2421
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 1: players that are on the board and just go all offense.

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02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 1: You know, we were out to find the best football

2423
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: players that could we feel like when we felt I

2424
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 1: could help our football team, regardless of offense, defense or

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02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 1: special things. Yeah, I mean they signed a couple of

2426
02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 1: defensive players, but it's pretty clear they were focused on

2427
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 1: offense and freec Yeah, it's regretless said, that's a no brainer.

2428
02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you gotta you gotta find those guys. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And not only did they, you know, they didn't just

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Speaker 1: go out and and it's a testament to the position

2431
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,800
Speaker 1: they put themselves in financially, but they were They signed

2432
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: a ton of guys, and they signed them to a

2433
02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: ton of guys to the positions where they were needing

2434
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 1: guys to play well that didn't play well last year.

2435
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 1: They needed some offensive linemen, some wide receivers, and they

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02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 1: went out and got them a bunch of them. Um,

2437
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of defenders as well, but man

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02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 1: oh man, and that because they lost Kyle Williams. So

2439
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, let's face it, that's what free agency's all about.

2440
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a ton of guys at every position

2441
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:06,440
Speaker 1: that are going to be available around the National Football League.

2442
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: You rank them, you find out, you evaluate the ones

2443
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:09,880
Speaker 1: you want, you go out and get them. And they

2444
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:12,600
Speaker 1: did and I think they did a really nice job.

2445
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 1: But when all was said and done, of not overpaying anybody,

2446
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 1: I think we had a couple of names at the

2447
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 1: center position, most of which was Matt Paradis from Denver,

2448
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,360
Speaker 1: who everybody thought was going to be the guy. Well,

2449
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 1: they got Mitch Morris, who's four years younger, and made

2450
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 1: him the highest paid guy. He's the guy. And when

2451
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: the guy, I mean, he started finding out about it,

2452
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:34,560
Speaker 1: they did their homework and none of us did. I

2453
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 1: didn't know who Mitch Morris was. So that's exactly the

2454
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: kind of atmosphere that's going on around one Bill's Drive

2455
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 1: right now where you think, you know. They seemed to

2456
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 1: be on top of it at every point, and it's

2457
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 1: pretty comforting and pretty fun to be around. Mit Dermot

2458
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 1: did talk about Mitch Morris today at the Combine. He

2459
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 1: was asked about the addition of the Veteran Center Mitch Morris,

2460
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 1: and here's what Sean had to say. You know, again,

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02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 1: we'll get I'll get to know more um as I

2462
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: get side by side with Mitch. And but in the short,

2463
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 1: the short returns are very positive. I enjoyed meeting him

2464
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 1: when he came in UM and the days after free

2465
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: agency when it kicked off, and signed the deal and

2466
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: UM and so I think it's just gonna be like

2467
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:20,280
Speaker 1: anything else, you know, the more I get to know him,

2468
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:23,240
Speaker 1: the more his teammates get to know him and vice versa,

2469
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 1: the better off will be. And that that again is

2470
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 1: how I believe you build a team. And and uh

2471
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 1: it seems in a short amount of time that he's

2472
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 1: focused on the team uh first approach, and that's what

2473
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 1: we subscribe to in terms of rebuilding area in the middle. Yeah, yeah,

2474
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 1: that's huge. Um, you know, look, we've got um Russ

2475
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 1: and Spencer already in we felt like in in the

2476
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 1: boat and then to be able to add a guy

2477
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 1: like Mitch and we felt like, you know, from a

2478
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: leadership standpoint, the DNA that he was going to bring

2479
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: to the table. Uh, that position Tickler, looking back at

2480
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 1: my history in Carolina with Ryan Khalil, a guy that

2481
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 1: can come in be the leader of the room. Set

2482
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:13,879
Speaker 1: the table turned to the communication build a cohesive connection

2483
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 1: with our young quarterback. That's key. Yeah, he's right about that.

2484
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,680
Speaker 1: That's gonna be John one I would think for Mitch

2485
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: Morris and also mcdermain. Now, among a variety of topics

2486
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 1: he touched on today was quarterback Josh Allen, who he

2487
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 1: was asked what he expects Josh Allen to be doing

2488
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 1: during this offseason right now? A couple of weeks away

2489
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,720
Speaker 1: from the return here and he was asking about Josh

2490
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 1: Allen's qualities of leadership. Here's what the Bill's head coach

2491
02:03:37,240 --> 02:03:40,280
Speaker 1: said about that. If we're trying to put a team together,

2492
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:42,520
Speaker 1: I think the bottom line is Josh is a big

2493
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: part of that. His leadership probably better said is and

2494
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 1: Tremaine's leadership will be key to our success at a

2495
02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: young age because we've lacked. As you guys know that

2496
02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 1: there's a gap with what was last year, year three

2497
02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: and year four players. There was an absence of that

2498
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:03,600
Speaker 1: influence in our locker room, and so we did add

2499
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: some of that in free agency. But you know, at

2500
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Josh and Tremaine on the

2501
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 1: offensive defensive side are two young players that are going

2502
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 1: to have an added amount of responsibility from a leadership

2503
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:15,760
Speaker 1: standpoint this year. I don't mind that at all. So

2504
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:18,240
Speaker 1: even in fact, I find it interesting today include a

2505
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 1: Tremaine in there right, the linebacker. They equate those two

2506
02:04:22,240 --> 02:04:24,880
Speaker 1: as leaders on offense leaders on defense. That was the

2507
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 1: thing they got bookends, you know, and both first yeah,

2508
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 1: and they're both quality guys. I mean, you and I

2509
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 1: both talked about how Tremaine Edmont, how impressive he was

2510
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:36,720
Speaker 1: early on, and even guys like Lorenzo Alexander and Kyle

2511
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:41,320
Speaker 1: and Kyle Williams and the older guys Jerry, They've noticed

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Speaker 1: Tremaine was a level of maturity above where you usually

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02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 1: see young players. And he was the youngest of all players.

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02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was nineteen when they drafted him,

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02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:54,560
Speaker 1: the day they drafted him. And to have his level

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02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:58,280
Speaker 1: of maturity speaks volumes about why he is a Buffalo Bill,

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02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 1: what their plans are for him, and and how much

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02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 1: they thought of him. They entrusted a lot to virtually

2519
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: a teenager. Yeah, and I think at this early stage,

2520
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: being the guy in the centerpiece of a number the

2521
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 1: top three defense in the National Football League and his

2522
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:19,120
Speaker 1: first year says they probably made the right choice. It'll

2523
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 1: be twenty one. In five weeks, he'll be twenty one

2524
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:24,400
Speaker 1: and still twenty And there's a lot out of shoulders.

2525
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 1: Don't kid yourself, there's an awful lot on Terrene Edmond shoulders. Hey,

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02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,400
Speaker 1: we got the question out there when I work in

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02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 1: a few phone calls, what rule change needs to happen

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Let's hear from you. Take a call

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Speaker 1: here from Kevin and Hamburg. Hello, Kevin, go ahead, you're

2530
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 1: on the air with It's Kevin. Hi. I'd like to

2531
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: see one rule change totally. And I'm sick to death

2532
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:48,080
Speaker 1: of eighty yard pass interferences being better than some quarterbacks.

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02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 1: Last year there was a couple of game for the

2534
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 1: announcer remarked that pass interfere was seventy five yards. I

2535
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 1: think it was Tony Romo and he said that's better

2536
02:05:56,760 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: than some quarterbacks throwing game. So what are you saying

2537
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 1: fifteen yards for pass interference? I think College, in that

2538
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 1: one way has it right. What do you think, Steve

2539
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard college rule? I don't care what the yardage,

2540
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 1: Just give give the give the offense a first down,

2541
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,720
Speaker 1: and give them whatever yardage you want. Don't give him this,

2542
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Don't give him the seventy five yards.

2543
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:16,640
Speaker 1: Give him a five yard penalty or a ten yard penalty.

2544
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 1: Get but just move And my thing, even if it's

2545
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 1: a third and one, just move the ball to the

2546
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:23,880
Speaker 1: first down marker and first and ten, let's go. If

2547
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:27,320
Speaker 1: it's a pass interference down the field, I think that's

2548
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 1: that would be a better way to go. Whether it's

2549
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:31,640
Speaker 1: a five yard, ten yard, fifteen yard take away the

2550
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:37,560
Speaker 1: seventy five yard penalty, Why it's too much? It's too much.

2551
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 1: If you deliberately committed a pass interference penalty to avoid

2552
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 1: a seventy five yard pick up, you would do that

2553
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 1: every time, right, I'll give a fifteen yards here boom,

2554
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit this guy at foot ball. Maybe you'd

2555
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:51,880
Speaker 1: be stupid not to. What would you do were you're

2556
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna do it like a you could do it like

2557
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:56,320
Speaker 1: a face mask. If it's egregious, it's a fifteen yard

2558
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 1: if it's If it's not, If it's running into the kicker,

2559
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,160
Speaker 1: it's five yards. If it's rough thing the kicker, it's

2560
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: fifteen yards if it's If it's a incidental pass interference

2561
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 1: or egregious pass interference, you know you get the full

2562
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 1: seventy five yards. I mean, what do you do too

2563
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: much judgment in that? Well, there you go. We got

2564
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:15,160
Speaker 1: to do something you can't if you're not gonna. If

2565
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 1: you're not gonna, you could keep it the way. That's

2566
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 1: Dick in defew. Hello, Dick, you're on the ear of this. Hey,

2567
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:25,960
Speaker 1: we got this pass interference. I'm going the other way.

2568
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 1: In some respects. How about when the defender maybe he

2569
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 1: just bushes the sleeve of the of the receiver or

2570
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 1: somebody like that, and they call a pass interference and

2571
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:38,720
Speaker 1: they can't be reviewed. I mean the chinsei calling, like

2572
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 1: the previous caller said, it could be a seventy five

2573
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:44,440
Speaker 1: yard plate, right. And my other comment is this, well,

2574
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 1: what wait, what's your solution to that? Nick or dick um.

2575
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 1: My solution to that is that they should be able

2576
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 1: to call you a full challenge flag on that. Oh

2577
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 1: I see, okay, so you're up for the rule change,

2578
02:07:55,840 --> 02:08:00,240
Speaker 1: all right? What else? The other thing is that this yeh,

2579
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean it just read picks me off. A call

2580
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:07,400
Speaker 1: comes from upstairs orders a challenge flag about a play.

2581
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 1: The referee is going to challenge that. He walks across

2582
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:12,240
Speaker 1: the field. He walks up to a guy that has

2583
02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:15,560
Speaker 1: got a television on his stomach. The referee looks into

2584
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,080
Speaker 1: it a little twelve in screen and he upholds the

2585
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 1: call on his way through the screen. Here right, looking

2586
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 1: at a sixty five foot jumble trun Ye keep keeping mind, Dick,

2587
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:28,520
Speaker 1: he's not making the call anymore. In the NFL, the

2588
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:31,240
Speaker 1: field official, Yeah, calls being made in New York where

2589
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 1: it's plenty a big screen. Here's the key you're missing, Dick.

2590
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 1: It's not that the heat the screen that he's looking at.

2591
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 1: It's the headphones that he's putting on. He puts on

2592
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 1: headphones and he gets the call from the guy upstairs place.

2593
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:45,640
Speaker 1: What say that again? Why does he walk up to

2594
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 1: the TV in the first place? Cosmetics? Well, you know

2595
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:51,880
Speaker 1: there's a dialogue right like, Hey, here's what we see

2596
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 1: here in New York where we make the call. We

2597
02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 1: make the caller in New York, and we want you

2598
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 1: to put the call here, you know, we want we

2599
02:08:58,040 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 1: want you to put the ball here when we come

2600
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:02,040
Speaker 1: back that sort say, I'll wait till they get the

2601
02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 1: call from New York. Say it again. If he if

2602
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't make the call, the guys in New York

2603
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,400
Speaker 1: make the call, Why doesn't he just stay in the

2604
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 1: center of the field, wait till the guys in New

2605
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 1: York make up their mind radio him and then say, okay,

2606
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 1: call stains or the calls overturn whatever. Yeah, do they

2607
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:21,320
Speaker 1: have to walk up to the TV screen. They could

2608
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 1: do that, But like I said, it's not about the

2609
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 1: TV screen. It's about actually having him with a headpiece

2610
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 1: that he can talk to New York, and that's that's

2611
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:31,240
Speaker 1: hard to do technologically speaking, So he has to go

2612
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:34,520
Speaker 1: somewhere to put a phone on, his headphones on so

2613
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 1: he can talk to New York or the guy upstairs.

2614
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 1: So and then they have the TV screen there ostensibly

2615
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 1: so they can say, listen, you see this over here.

2616
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 1: His foot is in. We saw it from another angle.

2617
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:48,960
Speaker 1: His foot's going to be in. And see the and

2618
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 1: the and the and the score. Bud says the time

2619
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 1: on the clock should be two thirty one. So they've

2620
02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 1: got a lot of things to communicate in a very

2621
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:58,360
Speaker 1: short amount of time, and the little TV helps them

2622
02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:00,880
Speaker 1: communicate better, so he knows what he talking about, and

2623
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:02,480
Speaker 1: it puts it in a frame of reference for the

2624
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:04,240
Speaker 1: head officials, so he can go back out on the

2625
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:10,520
Speaker 1: field and tell us exactly the ABCD of why this

2626
02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 1: all went down the way they're telling you went down.

2627
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:13,840
Speaker 1: It's not so much that he goes over and makes

2628
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:15,880
Speaker 1: the call, but it's so much that when he comes

2629
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 1: back he can explain it to you and me, and

2630
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 1: the TV helps with it. And the headphones that he

2631
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 1: puts on with the mouthpiece are invaluable to that ay.

2632
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 1: A couple of updates as we get ready to go

2633
02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 1: to break here from the owners meetings. The overtime proposal

2634
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 1: by the chiefs regarding both teams getting the ball in overtime.

2635
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:34,160
Speaker 1: That's been tabled. They'll talk about it again in May

2636
02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 1: when the owners meet again in May. The proposal on

2637
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen instead of outside kicks that was shot down.

2638
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 1: That was defeated. Sorry to hear that, kind of not

2639
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of into I think they should do that, and

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02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 1: I think they should let him do it as many

2641
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 1: times as they want in the fourth quarter. Not gonna happen.

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02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 1: We break, we come back. It's One Bill's Live presented

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02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:53,000
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02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:22,440
Speaker 1: We had John Crick on the show today from the

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02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 1: Toronto Star. Oh Toronto's son as Mike Steve as my bad,

2650
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Speaker 1: I said, Star John Craik, who's at the Owners meetings

2651
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:35,720
Speaker 1: covers the bills covers the NFL had a lot to

2652
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 1: say about the rules changed proposals, and he talked about

2653
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 1: the one plan that would use replay on pass interference calls.

2654
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:46,120
Speaker 1: Here's what he said. Everybody knew coming in here that

2655
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 1: there was a proposal saying that allowing a proposal to

2656
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:55,400
Speaker 1: allow coaches to review defensive pass AFFERI sent offensive path

2657
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 1: interference if called, but not a non call, while they

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02:11:58,360 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 1: added last night rule proposal six B to also allow

2659
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 1: coaches to or for the replay to review and throw

2660
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:11,840
Speaker 1: a flag after the fact for not called offensive passive

2661
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:14,680
Speaker 1: affairs or defensive passive affairs. So for the committee to

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02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of adjust like that on the flow here within

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02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 1: the meetings tells you the type of momentum that coaches

2664
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 1: want to get that thing in. Whether it's going to

2665
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 1: get proof or not, probably not. He didn't seem hopeful

2666
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:29,360
Speaker 1: of it, but that they added that rule tells you

2667
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:31,280
Speaker 1: where this is going. And eventually I think they will

2668
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:34,880
Speaker 1: do it. We'll see, I don't know already. A couple

2669
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:39,560
Speaker 1: of rules proposals shot down at the NFL meetings, including

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Speaker 1: the fourth and fifteen proposal, which typically you and I

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Speaker 1: both thought was, Okay, we have one shot down that's

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Speaker 1: coming back. I think I think that's got I think

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02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 1: that's got a future. They also shot down the table

2674
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 1: the chiefs overtime chiefs overtime through it. They shot down

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02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 1: before the meetings even started. The sky judge of the

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Speaker 1: AFT users. They don't want it. They don't want an

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Speaker 1: overarch official in the sky to just kind of chime

2678
02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 1: in and say, hey, you missed one here. You need

2679
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 1: to call that. We thought we'd spend a day and

2680
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:08,959
Speaker 1: get your take on some of these rules change proposals,

2681
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:11,000
Speaker 1: and we did. Took a lot of good calls. Thank

2682
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,040
Speaker 1: you for that. We also had a Twitter poll up

2683
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 1: and running on some of these key rules change perpol

2684
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 1: which rule change needs to happen in the NFL. More

2685
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: than half of you said overtime both teams possess, not

2686
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's been tabled until the May meetings. May

2687
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 1: go longer than that. Twenty three percent say you want

2688
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,720
Speaker 1: to see replay usages on pass interference. We'll see that's

2689
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:32,160
Speaker 1: still alive, we believe. Fourteen percent say fourth and fifteen

2690
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Speaker 1: conversion instead of outside kick. That's gone for now. Seven

2691
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Speaker 1: percent had something else thanks for tuning in. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Our production assistant George Blastiff Coltnick Thomas, honald Or,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Tarto, Kevin Cargis, James Robol, our producer

2694
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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. You got anything else, Steve got man? This

2695
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:52,920
Speaker 1: sounds great? Okay, Ready for tomorrow? That was four? Sorry,

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02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,160
Speaker 1: get ready for tomorrow? Join us at twelve noon One

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