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Speaker 2: time recapping, Well, it was a busy weekend. College football.
Speaker 2: Vandy surprises Alabama. We'll talk to Bandy quarterback Diego Pavilla.
Speaker 2: He'll join us, coming up a little bit. Tennessee got
Speaker 2: surprised Michigan. I don't think Michigan was surprised. Missouri got surprised,
Speaker 2: USC losing in Minnesota. You got NFL wise the Vikings
Speaker 2: five and zero, big win for Texans, Ravens, Jags, Cardinals, Packers,
Speaker 2: Cowboys late last night and a fourth in goal they
Speaker 2: end up getting the touchdown. You got Tigers at the
Speaker 2: Guardians coming up, Royals, Yankees, Saints, and the Chiefs. I
Speaker 2: got the Chiefs favored by five and a half eight seven,
Speaker 2: seven to three. DP Show email address DP at Danpatrick
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Speaker 2: hour two is going to be watched set no Connor.
Speaker 3: Oh Man Uh, well, right now, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: suggestions on Todd's Donald Trump impression.
Speaker 4: That's for a pole question, but I think we're.
Speaker 2: Going to leave that one alone. Are the worst NFL loss?
Speaker 2: The suggestions to just not do the Donald Trump impersonation.
Speaker 5: He already did not do that.
Speaker 2: Donald already has he was doing it, but not doing.
Speaker 3: Still has yet to do one, as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2: And he will not. He's gonna die on that hill.
Speaker 2: He keeps walking around and he thinks it's us. We
Speaker 2: don't get it, Todd. It's not good.
Speaker 6: It's not.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 6: They're eating the hot dogs and the.
Speaker 2: Burgers, but it doesn't it doesn't sound.
Speaker 6: What about the facial expressions in the hands?
Speaker 3: That face looks exactly like your face and it's radio.
Speaker 2: They can't see your hand. But if you're watching on peak,
Speaker 2: thank you for downloading the app and watching.
Speaker 3: That's why you have to vote for me. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: I'm the only one who can lead us back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great time. What other pole questions do we have.
Speaker 3: For the worst NFL loss this weekend? Your choices are
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers, Bengals, Bills, Colts. Right now, it
Speaker 3: is a tie between the forty nine Ers and the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Okay, can you look at the Bengals schedule coming up,
Speaker 2: because I don't think it's that difficult that maybe they
Speaker 2: could end up with you know, they could have four
Speaker 2: wins here coming up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauling Bengals are at the Giants at the Browns
Speaker 5: host the Eagles host the Raiders. Okay, Giants used to
Speaker 5: be an easy one.
Speaker 2: Well, I was holding out. I don't want to say
Speaker 2: hope because I'm not rooting for anybody. I thought the
Speaker 2: Giants were going to be better this year. The defense
Speaker 2: is good and they made some plays. I mean, that
Speaker 2: place to win in Seattle, and I think Seattle is
Speaker 2: a good team, but that was one of those where
Speaker 2: you're watching and it's like the Giants are making some plays,
Speaker 2: the defense is really good, and they win without Molik
Speaker 2: Neighbors degree of difficulty going cross country, and like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's pretty impressive. And then they come back home and
Speaker 2: then they lose. I'm sure, yeah, Seaton, but.
Speaker 3: You're that lost by the Seahawks probably might be my
Speaker 3: worst of the weekend because not only did you lose
Speaker 3: to a team that you're absolutely supposed to beat, but
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are struggling, and you're not taking
Speaker 3: advantage of that. These are games that you you have
Speaker 3: to win, the ones that you're supposed to win, especially
Speaker 3: when the forty nine ers are down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Rams are down as well. This is
Speaker 2: your chance, this is your window. So you think that
Speaker 2: that's worse than the Niners losing to the Cardinals at home.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's worse necessarily, but it is
Speaker 3: really bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Niners they're not healthy. I don't know
Speaker 2: when they're getting everybody back. But you know, these are
Speaker 2: the games that will cost you home field advantage. That's
Speaker 2: that's the bigger thing. Because you might say, oh, what
Speaker 2: are you worried about the Niners going to make the playoffs? Okay,
Speaker 2: are they going to be hosting the NFC title game
Speaker 2: or are they going to have second round home field
Speaker 2: advantage like that? That's what this is about for some
Speaker 2: of these teams. Teams are going to be going, you know,
Speaker 2: they're going to make the playoffs, but this is about
Speaker 2: something larger than that. All right, eight seven to seven
Speaker 2: to three, DP show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com,
Speaker 2: twitter handle at DP show. We have operator Tyler sitting
Speaker 2: by taking your phone calls there. So did you recap
Speaker 2: our one pole question? Now we have our two pole questions, Seaton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, our two pole question.
Speaker 2: We're going to do the same.
Speaker 3: But worst college football loss of the weekend aside from Alabama,
Speaker 3: so populating that one. Let's see we throw in cal
Speaker 3: put in there. But Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Cow had atmosphere, they had, they had it all. They
Speaker 2: had everything except for the ability to stop cam Ward
Speaker 2: late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yes, CAW football was back for a moment, and then
Speaker 2: they had some great signs too. Michigan. No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think Michigan's that good. Okay, And now you
Speaker 2: bench the quarterback that you and bring back the quarterback
Speaker 2: you just bench because you were bringing that quarterback back.
Speaker 5: And yeah, Poland, I think Tennessee is getting a hall
Speaker 5: passed because of the Alabama loss. Tennessee could be five
Speaker 5: and oh with Georgia with a loss, Bama with a loss,
Speaker 5: and everyone's loving Josh hype and everything, and they just
Speaker 5: they just laid an egg weird one against.
Speaker 2: Arkansas and then Tennessee has Alabama in two weeks, I
Speaker 2: believe correct. Yeah, it's a slugfest, but you do have
Speaker 2: that opportunity that even with one loss that you can
Speaker 2: still be in the playoff picture there, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're gonna find that out, you know with some of
Speaker 2: these teams. By the way, watching my New York Jets
Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers not good. It's seventeen to nothing, and
Speaker 2: you want to talk about body language. Now, nobody's worse
Speaker 2: than Deshaun Watson, but Aaron Rodgers, dude, let's go, come on.
Speaker 2: They could easily have two more wins that ended up,
Speaker 2: you know, lossuits there. I mean, let's go. You know,
Speaker 2: we got to speed up the process here and play calling.
Speaker 2: If I'm the Jets, I gotta have the I gotta
Speaker 2: throw the ball early. I don't want to run the football,
Speaker 2: especially against Minnesota because Minnesota is waiting for third and long.
Speaker 2: That defense is waiting. They had three interceptions. I mean,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And I said this at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the year. Robert sala is either the coach
Speaker 2: the year he gets fired. I mean, really, that's what
Speaker 2: it's all about. Cause and I don't think he's much
Speaker 2: of a coach, but maybe they can play their way
Speaker 2: out of Robert SLA getting fired.
Speaker 7: Yes, mar Aaron Rodgers should just be the OC, like
Speaker 7: you know what, I'm calling a place from now on,
Speaker 7: because obviously what Dana Hacketts doing is not working.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: You don't think he is the OC his best friends
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. I don't. I don't think there's any
Speaker 2: you know, friction between the two. Probably is like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going to run this all right? Sounds good to be.
Speaker 2: That's probably the discussion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pully, we still need we talked about inventions last week.
Speaker 5: We still need some type of reminder to our phones
Speaker 5: that there's a London game at nine thirty in the
Speaker 5: morning Eastern and even if you're on the West coast,
Speaker 5: it's really early. I missed half of the first quarter
Speaker 5: and I totally was aware of that game being on
Speaker 5: and what time, but I'm running around, you know, doing.
Speaker 2: So did the Jets. They missed a good portion of that.
Speaker 2: Here's Aaron Rodgers after the loss. You know, I was
Speaker 2: blowing my standard.
Speaker 8: I just found out I've never thrown two ficks in
Speaker 8: the first quarter before. So that's the first one of
Speaker 8: us cost obviously seven and the other you know, could
Speaker 8: cost three. So in a game we lose by six.
Speaker 8: You know, plays like that are exponentially highlighted. So three
Speaker 8: turnouts for me is definitely out of character, and I'm disappointed.
Speaker 2: They have to get DeVante Adams. It's not a question anymore,
Speaker 2: you know, if they get him or if they don't. No, no,
Speaker 2: they have to have them, have to because that offense
Speaker 2: is not scaring anybody. Defense. They've ruined some really good
Speaker 2: defensive performances here. Yeah, morph But.
Speaker 7: How much anger are Jets fan's going to be when
Speaker 7: they still put out a turnout like this with DeVante Adams.
Speaker 2: Well, if that's the case, you might be looking at
Speaker 2: the quarterback, certainly the offensive coordinator. Yeah, Poeling.
Speaker 5: It's a weird situation like the Devanta Adams Jets trade
Speaker 5: is dependent on the Jets' status. Let's say I would
Speaker 5: I would have thought it would have been done last
Speaker 5: week or early this week. But if they lose to
Speaker 5: the Bills this week, they're what they would be?
Speaker 2: Two and two and four?
Speaker 5: Yeah, two and four. What are the odds of making
Speaker 5: the playoffs at two and four? And you're gonna go
Speaker 5: all in on an expensive wide receiver at two and
Speaker 5: four or you maybe say, like not this year?
Speaker 4: Didn't work out.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I wonder if it's a sliding scale of interest based
Speaker 5: off your status as a playoff team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at some point it's like what do we why bother?
Speaker 2: But it feels like the AFC East is there. I
Speaker 2: mean New England can be competitive. I mean Miami, I
Speaker 2: don't know, Buffalo didn't look good. It's there, like this
Speaker 2: is there for the Jets to take. I just like
Speaker 2: their offensive game planning is terrible. And Drew Van Ginkel
Speaker 2: had a sixty three yard interception for a touchdown on
Speaker 2: Sunday and three sacks this season.
Speaker 6: How about that?
Speaker 2: I just love Andrew Van Ginkel has become my favorite player.
Speaker 2: I think just because it sounds like if if we're
Speaker 2: at a like a social on a campus, like a university,
Speaker 2: Like let's say we're at Yale, We're at USC and
Speaker 2: somebody goes, oh h Dan Andrew Van Ginkel, Oh from
Speaker 2: the Van Ginkle family. Yes, yes, Andrew, Professor Van Ginkle,
Speaker 2: good to meet you for the.
Speaker 5: Prestigious van Yes, yes, it does sound almost senatorial. You know, oh,
Speaker 5: Senator van.
Speaker 2: Grandmother was a socialite bank Oh, yes, Ben GK Andrew
Speaker 2: Van Ginkel Junior.
Speaker 5: Day they summer in Newport, the Van Ginkles.
Speaker 2: That's stay at the Breakers, and.
Speaker 3: Then they lost it all. Yes, sadly, it's real American
Speaker 3: lesson in stock market crash. You know, they had these
Speaker 3: massive houses all over.
Speaker 2: The twenty nine nineteen twenty nine crush them.
Speaker 5: The boys in the third generation took advantage of the grandfather.
Speaker 3: They filmed the shining at their summer home.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, that's that was the Van
Speaker 2: Ginkle estate. Yeah, Andrew Van Ginkel Junior, the third Never
Speaker 2: gonna get that out of my head. It's the first
Speaker 2: player in NFL history with at least three sacks and
Speaker 2: two interception returns for touchdowns in the first five games
Speaker 2: of a season. Stat of the Day, stat of the Day,
Speaker 2: That best stead of the day.
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Speaker 2: we know the translation of Van Ginkel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it means you're from Ginkle van Ginkle. Oh he's
Speaker 5: from the land of game of the Ginkel, of the Ginkel.
Speaker 2: Where is Ginkle checking? Okay, sounds like that's in Sweden.
Speaker 2: Or Norway on Nordic.
Speaker 5: He is from Iowa, which has a huge Nordic influence.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Andrew van Ginkel didn't he play for the Dolphins.
Speaker 5: Yes, I drafted by the Dolphins, had a pretty good
Speaker 5: career there.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh is a Diego Pavia.
Speaker 6: Still they were having trouble finding him. I've just been
Speaker 6: told on his.
Speaker 2: Way to the to the school, he's missing.
Speaker 6: They thought he was in the building. Then I got
Speaker 6: worried that he's on his way to the campus.
Speaker 2: So then forty forty Okay, that's okay. Tell him we'll
Speaker 2: get them next time they have. Yeah, next time they
Speaker 2: beat Alabama.
Speaker 3: Line, Yeah, says that's I just tell him we'll get
Speaker 3: them next time they have.
Speaker 2: When we reach out, you know, somebody pulls off some
Speaker 2: big surprise and then they're like, well he's not available.
Speaker 2: Oh that yeah, next time you knock off blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: we'll call you.
Speaker 3: Okay, tell Diego next time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this will get him.
Speaker 5: My all time favorite was the Cubs win the twenty
Speaker 5: sixteen World Series and we asked for their manager. They said, well,
Speaker 5: maybe not this week, but maybe down the road a
Speaker 5: little bit. I'm like, this is the road. Yeah, they
Speaker 5: just won the World Series for the first time in
Speaker 5: a zillion years.
Speaker 2: I don't care about the road.
Speaker 3: Two weeks from now, There's no more chapters in this
Speaker 3: book after this.
Speaker 2: This is the end of the movie. Yes, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is the man. Yeah, the end. That's it. It's over.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about the Cubs after this, right, you won?
Speaker 2: All right? So diego Pavia, the Vandy quarterback. Maybe he's downtown.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's been walking around with a gold pull. I mean,
Speaker 2: who knows. I can't blame him for celebrating. When we
Speaker 2: come back, Lewis Riddick of the mother Ship will ask
Speaker 2: him who had the worst loss this weekend in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: The Vandy quarterback Diego Pavilla, will join us fresh off
Speaker 2: the up. Upset Yavia, Pavia.
Speaker 6: I for some reason did say, Pavia.
Speaker 2: I know, I know I keep saying that, you keep reminding.
Speaker 6: Me annoying, but I know you want to get around.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're annoying, whether you're trying to or not.
Speaker 3: You got to say the name right, got to say
Speaker 3: the name right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go.
Speaker 6: Everyone knows it's everybody knows. Everyone knows this. It's Pavia.
Speaker 2: I know it was the right name.
Speaker 6: Call him Pavia. I call him Pavia.
Speaker 2: I'm right and they're wrong once again. This is that
Speaker 2: great Donald Trump impersonation.
Speaker 6: Everyone knows.
Speaker 2: It's no. I had to let everybody know that that
Speaker 2: you're impersonate. Yes. Lewis Riddick of the Mothership, former NFL
Speaker 2: safety and a former front office person, he joins us
Speaker 2: on the program. All right. Worst loss of the weekend
Speaker 2: in the NFL was turned in by who.
Speaker 9: Oh man, I'll probably say if I say, either Buffalo
Speaker 9: or Pittsburgh Buffalo because of and Sean admitted it after
Speaker 9: the game was over, about how he handled the end
Speaker 9: of game situation there, coming out from his own end
Speaker 9: zone backed up before instead of just playing for going
Speaker 9: in the overtime, understanding that Houston had such a big kicker,
Speaker 9: the kicker with such a big leg, should he have
Speaker 9: just kind of like forced them to use their time outs,
Speaker 9: eat up the clock, you know, throwing the ball three
Speaker 9: straight times. That that's huge. That's huge for them for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's tough having them in a situation
Speaker 9: where you come that close down there on the goal
Speaker 9: line to knocking the ball out of landing Roberts making
Speaker 9: one of the coolest plays you'll see, and then I'm
Speaker 9: not able to recover the football. Then Jalen Tolbert coming
Speaker 9: back from getting hit in the area that no one
Speaker 9: wants to get hit and then make one of the greatest,
Speaker 9: you know, one of a big time catch, let's just
Speaker 9: put it that way, A big, big, big time catch.
Speaker 9: I mean, that's huge. That's just a gut punch for them.
Speaker 9: I'm hoping that the team doesn't overreact and like all
Speaker 9: of a sudden, it start like you can already sense that,
Speaker 9: you know, I knowing the broadcast that people were thinking, well, look,
Speaker 9: this is the end of the justin field there. It's
Speaker 9: going to be Russell Wilson's show now. And people start
Speaker 9: kind of like focusing their attention in the wrong places
Speaker 9: because Pittsburgh needs wide receiver help. They just do. And
Speaker 9: you saw that a little bit last night. But I
Speaker 9: think those two losses in particular, they really stick out
Speaker 9: to me, you know, yesterday, There's others. The Jets game
Speaker 9: is a huge one too. Everyone will want to talk
Speaker 9: about the Jets all the time because of you know,
Speaker 9: just the people's affinity for one to talk about them.
Speaker 9: But I think the Buffalo and Pittsburgh, Yeah, they stand
Speaker 9: out the most.
Speaker 2: All right, Josh Allen goes nine for thirty. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: got his bell run m and went right back in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 2: Nothing changes in the NFL.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's yeah, it obviously, Dan, and I know what
Speaker 9: you're alluding to. It just makes you believe that you
Speaker 9: know that sometimes or makes you wonder if sometimes the
Speaker 9: protocol is not followed to a t uniformly regardless of
Speaker 9: the game situation, the individual involved. All that. And you
Speaker 9: don't ever want to accuse anybody of not doing that
Speaker 9: because we understand that player health is something that has
Speaker 9: been at the forefront of our discussion for years now.
Speaker 9: It's just a concerning concussion health. But yeah, when you
Speaker 9: see him whack his head on the ground like that,
Speaker 9: and you're sitting there and playing an amateur doctor, you know,
Speaker 9: from your couch, and you're watching it, and you're looking
Speaker 9: at his body language and you're sitting there going, man,
Speaker 9: he doesn't look quite right. He leaves, he goes in,
Speaker 9: he comes right back, right back out. He's right back
Speaker 9: on the football field in one play. He misses one play. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it makes you start going to come on now, But
Speaker 9: I mean, what else are you gonna do If you
Speaker 9: don't trust the medical professionals, if you don't trust the
Speaker 9: system that's put in the place to take care of
Speaker 9: the players, I mean, who else can you trust?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 9: Yeah, where do you go from there? All right?
Speaker 2: Some other games, you know why, the Ravens and the Bengals,
Speaker 2: and that felt like whoever had the ball last was
Speaker 2: going to win that game.
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure. The quarterbacks that's about as good as
Speaker 9: Joe Burrow really can play. And I know anyone now
Speaker 9: who wants to hang the loss on Joe around Joe
Speaker 9: Burrow's neck and say, look, he's still not playing good enough.
Speaker 9: That that's what franchise quarterbacks are supposed to do. They're
Speaker 9: supposed to elevate their football. Look, Joe Burrow can't do
Speaker 9: crap about Lamar Jackson fumbling the ball, picking it up,
Speaker 9: stiff arming Sam Hubbard and jumping it up in the
Speaker 9: air before he goes out of bounds and throwing it
Speaker 9: across his body and throwing the time. There's nothing you
Speaker 9: can do about that. And Derek Henry's just a freak.
Speaker 9: We knew this long before he got to Baltimore. But
Speaker 9: for him to just kind of like have the kind
Speaker 9: of runs that he has at the times that he
Speaker 9: has them, like he did yesterday, Look Baltimore. Baltimore as
Speaker 9: they're finding their way defensively with Zach Gore running the show.
Speaker 9: Now offensively, they're looking like a football team that when
Speaker 9: they're locked in and they have everything dialed in, they're
Speaker 9: going to be tough to deal with. Man, they really are.
Speaker 9: And for Cincy, I don't know. I mean, I just
Speaker 9: don't know how they fix the defense. I don't know
Speaker 9: what the issue is. And I love lou Anirumo. I
Speaker 9: love him more than anybody in the NFL. I believe
Speaker 9: he's deserved to be a head coach for a while now. Man,
Speaker 9: the defense is just not able to just consistently make
Speaker 9: the plays and the stops that they need to make,
Speaker 9: and that's why they're sitting where they are.
Speaker 2: What can you remember a running back trying to tackle
Speaker 2: running back similar to Derrick Henry when you were playing.
Speaker 9: No, there's only one guy who I remember being like that,
Speaker 9: that tall, that long. There was a guy who played
Speaker 9: for he played for Denver. I believe he played for
Speaker 9: the Chargers before that named Rod Bernstein, who wound up
Speaker 9: who was an h back, tight end type that they
Speaker 9: wound up putting that running back when he was in Denver.
Speaker 9: And I remember it was ninety three or ninety four
Speaker 9: when I was in Cleveland and Denver came to Cleveland,
Speaker 9: and I remember sitting there looking at this guy, going,
Speaker 9: are you kidding me? This is a tight end playing tailback.
Speaker 9: And that's really what Derek is and those guys, But
Speaker 9: I don't care who you are. Those guys will make
Speaker 9: you make business decisions if you're not wired right.
Speaker 2: So how can you pretend to tackle somebody like it
Speaker 2: is a business decision? But you don't want to be
Speaker 2: like man, that guy's soft.
Speaker 9: You know what you do? Dion used to call it
Speaker 9: when we were in Atlanta. Man, he used to call
Speaker 9: it low five and a guy instead of high five.
Speaker 9: He said, that's when you go down by his ankles
Speaker 9: and you made it. You make it look like an
Speaker 9: honest effort to trip him up. But really, what you're
Speaker 9: saying is, look, I'm not putting my face in there.
Speaker 2: If somebody hadn't seen the Vikings play, how would you
Speaker 2: describe them?
Speaker 9: And some one hadn't seen the Vikings playing? You know
Speaker 9: what I would say. I would on offense, I would say, look,
Speaker 9: this is a team that's probably being being coached offensively
Speaker 9: as good as any team in the NFL right now,
Speaker 9: given how Sam Darnold has been able to keep them
Speaker 9: on a track right now that I don't think anybody
Speaker 9: thought that he'd be able to keep him on. But
Speaker 9: Kevin O'Connell is right now, he's leading the pack as
Speaker 9: far as coach of the year for me, So I
Speaker 9: think there you'd be like, you're gonna see supreme play
Speaker 9: calling and coaching and game managing on the offensive side
Speaker 9: and defensively. It is sixty minutes of absolute fury that
Speaker 9: you will see eleven guys up on the line of
Speaker 9: scrimmage and you don't know which eleven are coming, and
Speaker 9: they are and he and Brian Flores right now is
Speaker 9: absolutely just causing some of the best quarterbacks in the
Speaker 9: NFL fits nightmares because he's telling you I'm gonna hit
Speaker 9: you and I'm gonna try and hit you before you
Speaker 9: can figure out where that free runner is gonna come
Speaker 9: from and you can get the ball out.
Speaker 2: Okay, but why have other coach has done this? But
Speaker 2: why is what Brian Flores is doing different than anybody else?
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's because, look, it always comes with risk.
Speaker 9: There could always be consequences. I don't know if every
Speaker 9: coach from a play calling perspective understands how to get
Speaker 9: those free runners on quarterbacks, meaning how to attack protections,
Speaker 9: understands protections as well as maybe he does. And he
Speaker 9: was taught by the very best in New England, and
Speaker 9: so not everybody is as confident and as comfortable doing
Speaker 9: the things that he does because it does come with risk,
Speaker 9: and some coaches are like, nah, I'm not willing to
Speaker 9: do that. I'm not willing to put myself in harm's
Speaker 9: way like that. But he has. He has made a
Speaker 9: career out of it. He made a career out of
Speaker 9: it all the way to being a head coach, and
Speaker 9: I think, you know, all things being equal, he may
Speaker 9: get another shot at it if his football team on
Speaker 9: his side of the ball can keep playing like they're playing.
Speaker 2: Lewis Reddick and the Mother's ESPN NFL college football analyst.
Speaker 2: He was on the call with SMU and Louisville. You
Speaker 2: got the Monday night game with the Chiefs and the Saints.
Speaker 2: Kent City hasn't been good offensively, No Rice, Travis Kelce
Speaker 2: has hit or miss, you lose Pacheco. They are a
Speaker 2: defensive team first, They've been that the last two years.
Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's funny. Look, you have the the ultimate
Speaker 9: equalizer and Patrick obviously who can when he needs to
Speaker 9: do exactly what he needs to in terms of getting
Speaker 9: a role player to make a big play. No Gray
Speaker 9: last week in LA with the Chargers with the big
Speaker 9: completion over the middle, samajp Ryan. You know it's Kareem
Speaker 9: Hunt coming back into the Foles Xavier Worthy just splitting
Speaker 9: double teams and Patrick puts it on it. But there's
Speaker 9: no question that Steves Bagnolo is probably the most valuable
Speaker 9: assistant in the NFL right now given what the expectations
Speaker 9: are in Kansas City every week. And Chris Jones is
Speaker 9: probably the most impactful needs to be the most impactful
Speaker 9: player on the defensive side of the football for a
Speaker 9: team that has the kind of expectations that Kansas City does,
Speaker 9: and he delivers the over and over again when they
Speaker 9: need him. Chris Jones is the guy who's either pressuring
Speaker 9: the passer, sacking the passer, getting some kind of big
Speaker 9: TfL tackle for low. He does it over and over.
Speaker 9: If it wasn't for Aaron Donald him playing in the
Speaker 9: same era, Chris, maybe you know, as far as inter
Speaker 9: your player is considered one of the best we've ever seen.
Speaker 9: If it wasn't for the fact that he was playing
Speaker 9: at the same time that Aaron Donald, who is the
Speaker 9: best that we probably have ever seen.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you in the front office with the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. What are you doing with your quarterback?
Speaker 9: You mean, like, what am I doing if I didn't
Speaker 9: have to answer to the owner? I'm sure, yeah, I'm
Speaker 9: putting him on the bench because I'm sure the coach
Speaker 9: is probably in my office going when can I put
Speaker 9: him on the bench because he doesn't give us the
Speaker 9: best chance to win? When can I make a change
Speaker 9: here because he's not giving us the best chance to win?
Speaker 9: When can I make a change here because I can't
Speaker 9: run the offense I want to run because he's not
Speaker 9: the guy to run the offense I want to run.
Speaker 9: So I'm sure I would be having that conversation going, Okay, look,
Speaker 9: we understand, we understand what you're saying. And if I
Speaker 9: had the autonomy to make that decision, I would understand
Speaker 9: that I would support the coach. But they are in
Speaker 9: a situation where this is then this is the single
Speaker 9: like and this isn't hyperbole either, this is the single
Speaker 9: worst contract and situation maybe like I mean, I'd have
Speaker 9: to really sit here and think about it, you know,
Speaker 9: a little bit more, but I can't think of a
Speaker 9: single worst contract situation in the history of sports. Think
Speaker 9: about that.
Speaker 2: I mean, at least two of plays well when he's
Speaker 2: in there. I never would assigned him to an extension
Speaker 2: given the medical risk. But Watson just doesn't play well.
Speaker 2: It's like he's he's vacant when he's out there. That's it.
Speaker 2: He's checked out.
Speaker 9: This is every like. But to a mean, I get it.
Speaker 9: I get the risk. You know that they were taken
Speaker 9: down there in Miami given his medical history, but it's
Speaker 9: it's everything that came with DeShawn that they knew of
Speaker 9: before they even signed him, and now on top of it,
Speaker 9: like the crap play that he's putting out there right
Speaker 9: now is just like the icing on the whole crap cake.
Speaker 9: It's this awful. The whole thing is awful. And I'm
Speaker 9: telling you like, it's one of those situations where you
Speaker 9: sit and I feel so bad for Cleveland be because, honestly,
Speaker 9: in my career, I mean, that's the place I identify
Speaker 9: with the most because it's it's where I was the
Speaker 9: longest and where really I learned football, Like I believe
Speaker 9: I know it right now. And to see them now,
Speaker 9: they're they're a very talented football team that now is
Speaker 9: becoming again one of those you know, one of those
Speaker 9: franchises where you just sitting there going, yeah, that's the Browns.
Speaker 2: But are they going to be sellers?
Speaker 9: Like, I don't know what what can you do.
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett?
Speaker 9: Would you you mean sellers as far as like selling
Speaker 9: off some pieces?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna take to Sean, right,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't think so. I don't think that's what you
Speaker 9: would want to do. I really do think you could
Speaker 9: probably like you saw what Joe Flacco did with this
Speaker 9: football team a year ago. You literally right now, I
Speaker 9: believe to give themselves a chance to pull out of
Speaker 9: this downward spiral out there and need to replace one guy.
Speaker 9: You probably need to sit in one guy down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if they chose not to bring Joe back
Speaker 2: because they didn't want a quarterback controversy, and they bring
Speaker 2: in Jamis for the same amount of money that Joe
Speaker 2: is making in Indianapolis, that to me is embarrassing.
Speaker 9: You're right, it is. What I'm saying is you don't
Speaker 9: need to be sellers. All you need to do is
Speaker 9: really move one guy out of the way, Move him
Speaker 9: over here, send him right next to Kevin Stefanski on
Speaker 9: the sideline, and you may see this whole football team
Speaker 9: turn around in terms of the way in which they play.
Speaker 9: But so no, they don't need to break everything up.
Speaker 9: They just need to make one change. But to make
Speaker 9: that one change will be commit admitting to the most
Speaker 9: colossal like mistake in the history of the NFL when
Speaker 9: it comes to contracts. And I don't know his ownership
Speaker 9: willing to do that at this point. If they don't,
Speaker 9: then this it's just gonna get worse.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us as always, Lewis.
Speaker 2: You bet that's Lewis Riddick of the mother Ship. We'll
Speaker 2: take a break. We'll talk to the Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia,
Speaker 2: who will join us coming up next.
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Speaker 2: Sixteen to twenty two, fifty two two touchdowns, twenty carries,
Speaker 2: fifty six yards, and an upset over Alabama. Diego Pavia
Speaker 2: joining us on the program. Congratulations, when did you think
Speaker 2: you were going to win this game? Uh?
Speaker 10: We we had a feeling from the from the start,
Speaker 10: like we just say, it's any it's any given Saturday.
Speaker 4: CJ.
Speaker 10: Taylor actually said in his interview, like a lot of
Speaker 10: people are gonna be surprised at the outcome. I think
Speaker 10: you said it on Wednesday, last Wednesday, and that's just
Speaker 10: the reality of it. It's any given Wednesday, any given Saturday.
Speaker 10: And you know, we just came out and it was
Speaker 10: Who's better that Saturday?
Speaker 2: And we were take me back to the pregame speech
Speaker 2: any any you know, fire and Brimstone yelling, screaming, banging
Speaker 2: things before the game.
Speaker 10: Big loss of Stephen Hubbard four on the old line.
Speaker 10: He likes to get after it, and you know he
Speaker 10: says you ain't on you know s word, and you know,
Speaker 10: he just likes to talk his stuff. And then you know,
Speaker 10: me before the game, I'm highed. I got my family
Speaker 10: behind me supporting me too. So it's just all all
Speaker 10: good vibes. And then go in and just you know,
Speaker 10: play your best football.
Speaker 2: How's morale on campus?
Speaker 4: I haven't hit campus yet.
Speaker 2: Were you downtown on Saturday night?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I was. We were at a shout out barstool,
Speaker 4: but yeah, we were over there. We just hung out.
Speaker 4: I had a good time. We had we know we had.
Speaker 10: We had a great time with the whole team, and
Speaker 10: just you know, I'm super excited going into this week
Speaker 10: against Kentucky.
Speaker 2: What did uh? Was there some chirping going back and
Speaker 2: forth by Alabama with you guys during the game.
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 10: Yeah, So at the beginning of the game, you know,
Speaker 10: we I got there as a captain and go out
Speaker 10: there coin toss.
Speaker 4: They were talking crazy.
Speaker 10: Like what what like they thought they were gonna come
Speaker 10: in here and treat us like we are an FCS
Speaker 10: team and we're like, what, like what do you You
Speaker 10: must not know? You know what I mean like, we're
Speaker 10: gonna see. That's why I kept telling him.
Speaker 4: Like, all right, we're gonna see, We're gonna see, We're
Speaker 4: gonna see.
Speaker 10: And you know they're they're they're laughing, talking like I
Speaker 10: can't say it on the show because I can't curse, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're talking crazy.
Speaker 10: So we when when they say, you know, we're taking
Speaker 10: the ball, they're kicking off. We didn't even shake their
Speaker 10: hands after we just took off to the sideline.
Speaker 2: How aware were you of Vanderbilt's history in football when
Speaker 2: you transferred, You know, I was aware of it because
Speaker 2: there's not a great history there.
Speaker 4: Diego right, No, no, for sure. But same thing with
Speaker 4: New Mexico State.
Speaker 10: When I went there, they were the worst program in
Speaker 10: FBS period And so like coach Kill flips flips poke program.
Speaker 10: And when coach Kill came here, he literally called me.
Speaker 10: I was committed to Nevada at Reno with coach Choke,
Speaker 10: and you know, he reminds me of coach Kill. So
Speaker 10: I was committed there, and then at the time coach
Speaker 10: Kills retired, and then Coach Kill gave me a call
Speaker 10: that night and said, hey, I'm going to Vanderbilt you're
Speaker 10: coming with me, And I was like, you're right, I'm
Speaker 10: with you.
Speaker 4: I'll see I'll see you in Nashville.
Speaker 2: But you get there and you know, they've had a
Speaker 2: couple of good quarterbacks there, but like you're in the
Speaker 2: SEC now that that's that's a that's as deep as
Speaker 2: you can go into the water there. You never felt like,
Speaker 2: you know, are we able to compete on that level
Speaker 2: with Alabama and Georgia some of these other schools.
Speaker 10: A lot of people when I first, you know, told
Speaker 10: him that, you know, there's possibility of me going to Vanderbilt,
Speaker 10: they said like, hey, like don't go, don't go, don't go, Like,
Speaker 10: you're not gonna be able to win there. You know,
Speaker 10: you're not going to be able to to get drafted there.
Speaker 10: You're not gonna be able to do it anything. And
Speaker 10: so I like challenge, like, if you know me, that's
Speaker 10: like you tell me I can't do something, I'm gonna
Speaker 10: do it that day.
Speaker 4: And so, you know, that's that's what I lived for.
Speaker 10: I feel like coach killed this for the same thing
Speaker 10: people told him, you know, when he started having his conditions,
Speaker 10: like you can't be a head coach no more, you
Speaker 10: can't do this.
Speaker 4: You can't do that.
Speaker 10: He went back to New Mexico State to show that
Speaker 10: he could do whatever, you know, whatever he puts his
Speaker 10: mind to.
Speaker 4: And so same thing here.
Speaker 10: You know, he's he's a big reason why I'm here
Speaker 10: and you know, super thankful to be here.
Speaker 2: Take me into the huddle, uh deep into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: What was it like?
Speaker 10: Uh so when we got when we got the ball back,
Speaker 10: but it was like, hey, we we gotta go. When
Speaker 10: they scored and we were up by five, I said, hey,
Speaker 10: two first downs, we win this game. You changed You
Speaker 10: change your life forever, Like that's just reality. You change
Speaker 10: his program's life forever. And so we were you know,
Speaker 10: we were hyped. I said, no dumb penalties, we can't
Speaker 10: get it, we can't get behind the sticks. Just just
Speaker 10: play smart, play fast. Let's go do this thing. And
Speaker 10: then first play hits for a first down. And so
Speaker 10: it was like, shoot, we might need three first you know,
Speaker 10: uh yeah, you know coach coach Beck called uh a
Speaker 10: dang near perfect game. And so you know, shout at him.
Speaker 10: He puts me in good spots at the right time.
Speaker 10: We got clutch receivers, Eli Stowers, our tight end. He'll
Speaker 10: be a first round draft pick in my opinion. You know,
Speaker 10: he's he's different. These past four games he's gone for
Speaker 10: like a pastor game has gone for one hundred yards.
Speaker 10: Our left tackle Gunner Hanson, and when people put him
Speaker 10: on film, he's he's a first round He's got he's
Speaker 10: twitched up.
Speaker 4: I've never seen like maybe once.
Speaker 2: Look at you shouting out everybody, diego Pavia the Vanderbilt
Speaker 2: quarterback getting off the field. How crazy was that after
Speaker 2: the uh you know it went final?
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, it was crazy. You know, they stormed the field.
Speaker 10: I had a lot of family in town. I had
Speaker 10: like sixty sixty seven people in town, so they were
Speaker 10: all there, you know, just having a blast, and then
Speaker 10: you know, they rushed the field.
Speaker 4: They found me. You know, we were able to they
Speaker 4: kind of clear it out for me to wait.
Speaker 2: But you brought sixty seven there and you're playing against Alabama,
Speaker 2: like it could have been a really long afternoon, given
Speaker 2: who Alabama is. Like you were that confident and you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: you guys want to come to a game, come to Alabama.
Speaker 4: It's belief. You got to believe it. And so that's
Speaker 4: that's the type of person I am.
Speaker 2: How big is the chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 4: It's huge.
Speaker 10: A lot of people say I can't, I can't play
Speaker 10: in the NFL, and so you know, SEC is the
Speaker 10: closest thing to the NFL.
Speaker 4: So shoot, I'm here to prove it.
Speaker 2: So I don't even know. Were you recruited out of
Speaker 2: high school by any major college?
Speaker 4: I had to.
Speaker 10: I had Division two offers, but I went junior college.
Speaker 10: You know, it's a lot of a lot of people
Speaker 10: go to junior college. But I had the grades. But
Speaker 10: I said to go to junior college and then went
Speaker 10: to New Mexico State and then falled.
Speaker 4: Coach killed coach back over here?
Speaker 2: What's uh watching game film going to be.
Speaker 4: Like we we watched it already.
Speaker 2: Oh you did?
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, no, it was it was. It was good.
Speaker 10: I almost screwed us though at the end of the half,
Speaker 10: I took a delayed game. I felt like a rooky.
Speaker 10: That was bad.
Speaker 2: Though you were a fifth year senior, You're not supposed
Speaker 2: to make these mistakes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean. I you know, I'm
Speaker 4: kind of short.
Speaker 10: So when I see when I see the game clock,
Speaker 10: you know, the field goal, the goalpost is hanging in
Speaker 10: my face, and I thought there was another number right there,
Speaker 10: but I took a delayed game.
Speaker 4: Coach Kill was pissed.
Speaker 2: Now he says he's kind of short. It says, you're
Speaker 2: six feet that's give me, give me a give me
Speaker 2: with your hair. I'm gonna give you six feet. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Give me official height and wait here diego
Speaker 2: official height.
Speaker 4: Pro day.
Speaker 10: I'll be measured at five ten one eighth m and
Speaker 10: my way, I'll probably be like two o four between
Speaker 10: two o four two seven.
Speaker 2: Ye right, it could be like Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeahh' super Bowl champion?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is there going to be a statue? Uh after
Speaker 2: a win like that? I don't Vanderbilt doesn't usually do
Speaker 2: these things. They don't celebrate sports the way normal schools do.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking maybe a statue on campus.
Speaker 4: You thinkn't put a statue in me on campus?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think. I think we got to do something bigger.
Speaker 2: Something bigger. What's bigger than a statue?
Speaker 4: Shoot? We got we got bigger dreams than this, and
Speaker 4: this is.
Speaker 2: Just oh okay. I just thought, you know what you said,
Speaker 2: this win will change lives. You could have that statue
Speaker 2: right outside the stadium every time they go there, they
Speaker 2: get to rub your head because most people be taller
Speaker 2: than you. You know, you're only five to ten.
Speaker 4: So I thought they make statues bigger than what you
Speaker 4: really are.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, so you got Kentucky. Don't sleep on Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Don't don't sleep on Kentucky.
Speaker 10: The truth, Yes, the truth, and a lot of people don't.
Speaker 10: Really they are freaking good, very good on defense top.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm proud of you that you
Speaker 2: didn't swear the entire interview.
Speaker 4: They told me not to swear before the interview, so
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mean you were swearing after the game on Saturday.
Speaker 4: No, I know, I know that that was That was
Speaker 4: my bad.
Speaker 2: Well you know what, Hey, you get one of those.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you get more. But congratulations. Do you have to
Speaker 2: go to class? Are you going to school down there?
Speaker 4: They make you go to school over here?
Speaker 2: This is in New Mexico State.
Speaker 4: I got a funny story.
Speaker 10: I got here and I was like, can you just
Speaker 10: put me on the all online classes? The look to
Speaker 10: be crazy, like there's no online. This is Vanderbilt now, yeah,
Speaker 10: this is.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, you're you're in the IVY League of
Speaker 2: the South there. You got to go to class.
Speaker 10: Harvard of the South. Yeah, but I like the community here.
Speaker 10: It's the people are awesome.
Speaker 2: Well, congrats. That was a lot of fun and uh
Speaker 2: once again, don't screw it up against Kentucky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, knock on woolf for me.
Speaker 10: Please, all right, Uh, thank you, Diego, No, I appreciate
Speaker 10: you having me.
Speaker 2: Uh, Diego. Pabia the Vanderbilt quarterback, he was at New
Speaker 2: Mexico State, transferred there, Jerry kill was there, had health
Speaker 2: issues and then became sort of an advisor Vanderbilt, and
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, come on down, that's not the place
Speaker 2: you want to go play quarterback. But they were the
Speaker 2: better team.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: That's not one of those where you go, what that
Speaker 2: lucky play, that lucky call. They were the better team. Yeah, Paulie, that's.
Speaker 5: What's the best about this job. If you would have
Speaker 5: said a month ago, we're we had the Vandy quarterback
Speaker 5: as one of our lead guests on Monday. That kid
Speaker 5: I was watching, we were probably watching on a Thursday
Speaker 5: night game on some RSN at New Mexico State two
Speaker 5: or three years ago. And he'll be the lead guest.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, coming up Final Hour. The new Reds manager
Speaker 2: Terry Francona. I thought he was retiring after leaving the Guardian,
Speaker 2: so we'll talk to him. Tiger's at the Guardians today, Royals,
Speaker 2: Yankees and Saints and the Chiefs coming up tonight. The
Speaker 2: Chiefs are giving five and a half to the Saints