1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Good, good afternoon. Welcome to that interview with me. I 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Hardware getting here, it's tight. Looked like an 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: old cafeteria when I was in elementary school. What's weeping 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: like for you? After? You know what you med deal? Oh, 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: She's a team that individuals like you you want to 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, a lot of supporters, Uh family, close friends, uh, 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: old teammates, UH coaches, uh old gms. UH where I 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: played at been awesome. Uh to be able to uh 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: get the opportunity. Uh been waiting a long time to 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: be able to have the opportunity and showcase what I 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: can do. Uh. Other than that, Uh, that was what Monday, 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: kind of Tuesday, Uh, responding to just everybody and then 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: just getting on too. Uh. Dallas's U see, yeah, lighted 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: up in the back last game. I was curious and 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: said something that comes pretty nical to you, that you 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: stead of part of your time excepting football just comes 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: natural to me. I wouldn't say I would line up 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: in the backfield too much. I'm six seven, so lined 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: up in the backfield is kind of a long stretch. 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: But it was a way for me to get on 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: the football field, and that's what I came here to 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: do and that's what I want to do. So anything 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: that can give me on the football field, they asked me, 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: I say, yes, you ever played fullback? Yep, let's go. 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: So that was the first. Yeah, I think I think 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: it was great. I mean the angles is a little different, 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: but trying to get trying to my big self, trying 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to squeeze through a couple of holes is kind of 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: challenging jumping over things. So other than that, I mean, 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: once you get to the block, the fundamentals, it's kind 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: of the same. You thinking for the Rock do definitely 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: say you go from the chili rain in the Jersey 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: last week and did they get some eats of warm weather? 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Balls gonna be over in the air hopefully a little 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: bit more. You're looking forward to them? Yeah, I'm definitely 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: looking forward. I'm actually from Houston, not from Houston, but 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I live in Houston, so my two kids and wife 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: is coming up to the game, so I'm kind of acclimated. 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: I trained down there all off season, so it's really 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: not the hot right now, ninety five degrees. It's kind 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: of cool that it's cooling down down there. When we 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: was training, it was about one point fifteen. Humidity was crazy. 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: When you put your maps on your phone, it would 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: seemed like heat advisories on your route or you was going. 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: So I'm more excited just to be able to go 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: back play in front of my kids. And uh, the 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: heat is always great. So yeah, they asked me. Oh, 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: they actually didn't ask me, but I would have said yeah. 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, my nephew played high school ball and he 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: told the coach sent them in and he asked him 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: what to do in the play. And I'm like, bro, 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: you playing left tackle just blocked the guy to you 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: in front of me, Like, no, ask him now. Then 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: the coach didn't send them in, So you know I'm 55 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: not built to be on the side. So I mean 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: they say full back, I'm going I'm not saying. I'm 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: not saying anything else. You you mentioned you know your 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: frame's not a traditional fullback frame. Hope. Otherwise, why are 59 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: you a good fit for that cat hole? I mean 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: just because I love football. I love the physicality part 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: of it. Uh. I mean I'm just kind of fearless 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: and just my natural being. Uh, and I just love 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: a game. I mean, fullback is no different than when 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm playing tight end. I'm trying to go in there 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: and smash people, and now I got a little head 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: start to smash people. Uh So, I mean for me, 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: it's just you know, tomat it tomorrow kind of thing. 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Coping levels that year in this offense. My comfort levels 69 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: being good. Uh. I mean I'm still kind of learning 70 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: on the fly. Uh. Me and me and Billy O 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: and uh will have a prior time together and take 72 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: so that gives some you know, comfortability just in how 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: things is going. I've been with like Elliot Wolfe before 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, you know, so just being able to talk 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: to people and advising. It's a great support staff here 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: to help you with things, you know. So it's been 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: it's been great, Phara. When you first showed up, you 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: kind of alluded to your relationship with Bill O'Brien, how 79 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: he helped you. Did he give you a shot? Can 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: you expand on that a little bit, kind of go 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: back and give how you guys first connected and maybe 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: you'll continue the relationship England. Yeah. Actually I was going 83 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: down to UH. I had just left Cleveland. They had 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: kept like six tdy ends and they had cleaned somebody. 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: So then they released me and I was like man, 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm leaving, So I left. I actually 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: was had Houston and then I was actually had New 88 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: England after that. So when I got down to Houston, 89 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: I was did my workout waiting and you know, was 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: actioning O'Brien like, you know what we're doing because New 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: England's trying to get me on the flight to come 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: to New England. Uh. I never got on that flight. 93 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: He was like, no, I'm signing you to act the 94 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: roster tomorrow. And then I had looked at the roster 95 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: here and they had just drafted two tight ends in 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: like the second round, third and I was like, I'm 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: not gonna go there because I was just kind of 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: tired of my career. I've been playing behind guys who 99 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: was getting paid, and you know, just the politics of 100 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: the game and people getting more opportunities because they were drafted. 101 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't want that again. So I stayed down there, 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: and that's how that kind of happened. What's it? Then? 103 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: It's crazy Tuesday. We had some lobster rows in in 104 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: the cafeteria. It was nice, no may or mine. I 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: had about thirty of those. Oh yeah, being a tall 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: guy at six seven, how'd you end up playing for 107 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: football over basketball. Because when I was I couldn't dribble. Really, 108 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I really couldn't dribble. I could shoot, uh and everything. 109 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: I probably if I'd have kept going, I probably would 110 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: have made it. You know, just how it is. But 111 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: a guy had told me, H my coach had told me, 112 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: and he was like, at six seven in basketball, you 113 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: just average. He was like, in football, you go into 114 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: the league regardless, So which one do you want? Like 115 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: you want to for sure? Do you want the maybe? So? Uh, 116 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: I was more of like a stretch forward in the NBA. Nowadays, 117 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I tha'tven have to be like a point guard, right I. 118 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: I want to ask you quoth about how you ended 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: up here this year. I remember if you say you 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: sass things in Indianapolis and year, pretty quickly you said, 121 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: like where you have a sense where they fee holst 122 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: You're feel pretty fortunate? They were, Yeah, definitely fortunate to 123 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: be able to get opportunity to play in this league. So, UH, 124 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I didn't kind of see it coming in India. I 125 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: had a great preseason. UH. The guys there, UH had 126 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: a great every thing OTAs and UH training camp with them, 127 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: So it kind of caught me off guard personally just 128 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: when you look at the film. But I mean another 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: what they say, another one man's trash, there's another man's 130 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: treasure kind of thing. So we played at Indianapolis, Coach, 131 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: So I'm can't wait for that one. Talk to that bro. 132 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: You know, don't check into different paper. Does I mean 133 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: to have that kind of thing to come upidence to 134 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: have move like kind of recruiting back here. I mean 135 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: it feels great, Like I said, anytime you can build 136 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: relationships and uh we kept in contact out sending them 137 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: texts throughout the year when he was in Alabama and 138 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: uh aslong with uh my coach Will, So uh it's 139 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: great just when you can have those kind of you know, 140 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: people that would put their self on the table for 141 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: you to get you somewhere. And I mean, I tell 142 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't take that lightly. You know, I know that 143 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: those two guys are stood on the table to get 144 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: me here. So you know, when I'm out there, I'm 145 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: definitely that's another added chip on my shoulder because you know, 146 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: I got people, I got my kids I can't let down. 147 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, my coach and Bill they got families that 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: they can't let down. So I kind of take those 149 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: kinds of things, you know, very personal, and play with 150 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: that out there. So I mean, that's what I can 151 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: say to that, Thank you, thanks for having me. I 152 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it.