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Speaker 3: A Happy Monday, a happy President.

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Speaker 4: Stay tell you no one is happier Aaron Torres than

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Speaker 4: Iowa Sam.

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Speaker 3: You want to know why.

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Speaker 5: I'm very curious to know where you ever. Remember when

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Speaker 5: you were in grade school.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you had a doctor's appointment at twelve thirty, so

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Speaker 4: you got out of school early. You got to leave

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Speaker 4: for the appointment. Remember that's a big deal. Of course,

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Speaker 4: Jason Stewart, you know what I'm talking about. That rush,

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Speaker 4: Isaac Low and Crown and no agrees with me. Iowa

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Speaker 4: Sam gets to leave early today, and there is a giddiness.

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Speaker 3: Do you sense that? You get that sense?

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Speaker 4: Iowa Sam's gonna be with us for one segment in

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Speaker 4: I get that sense with you today, Iowa Sam.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I'm getting out early, but I've also

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Speaker 3: been here since a little earlier. Sourus. It is nice

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's pouring here in La, but there seems to

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Speaker 4: be that giddy energy from Iowa Sam. The I get

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Speaker 4: out of school early. So yeah, is your mom picking

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Speaker 4: you up? How does that work?

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Speaker 3: I'll be taking myself home, but uh, I am looking

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Speaker 3: forward to leaving this place. Listen.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you can hear it in his voice there. You

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Speaker 4: can smile. If you're listening on the radio. You can

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Speaker 4: hear it through your speakers. If you're listening on your phone,

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Speaker 4: same thing. There is a grin on Iowa Sam's face.

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Speaker 4: Chris Purfett's going to be taking over for him. It's

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Speaker 4: also why I couldn't fit you guys into the pre

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Speaker 4: show tweet. Sorry, Isaac Glowing Crown as well, just a

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Speaker 4: long name. We did what we could, but we have

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Speaker 4: got a jam packed four hours because not only are

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Speaker 4: Aeron Torres and I in for Stu Gotts and Company

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Speaker 4: Live with our crew here, we are also in for

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Speaker 4: can know Enrich here on Fox Sports Radio, who we mentioned.

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Speaker 4: We're in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Jason, it is

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Speaker 4: kind of a big week for Sam. This is kind

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Speaker 4: his new power in this place.

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Speaker 6: You know they called that movie Summer of Sam about

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Speaker 6: the mask. This is the week of Sam at Fox

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Speaker 6: Sports Radio. We'll let the listeners know as the week

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Speaker 6: progresses how that's going.

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Speaker 4: He gets to uh, he gets up early in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Is in for Can you know? Rich are in for

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Speaker 4: Dan Patrick for three days this week? Steve Gotts and

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Speaker 4: Company off today, They'll be back tomorrow. But so Sam's

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Speaker 4: gonna be rising up early. But you're gonna be with

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Speaker 4: stug Gotts in company tomorrow and Wednesday. Doing kind of

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Speaker 4: a hybrid flex schedule this week. Wow, kind of first

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Speaker 4: your muscle. Yeah, yes, So we'll try to keep the

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Speaker 4: grin on your face for the next eleven minutes that

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Speaker 4: you're with us. But I think Adam Silver in the

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Speaker 4: NBA may be flexing today. I don't know if Adam

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Speaker 4: Silver has any reason to Aaron Torre is any muscle

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Speaker 4: to actually flex. But that's another conversation.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not.

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Speaker 4: That's for a different day. But the NBA All Star

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Speaker 4: Game didn't stink. It didn't stink.

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Speaker 5: For whatever they did, it wasn't a game, But it

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Speaker 4: Yes, for whatever format it was, you had effort, you

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Speaker 4: we ever really cared about the result. Previous All Star Games.

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Speaker 4: We would say when it comes down to the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: The competitiveness that we saw was present in that fourth

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Speaker 4: that championship fourth quarter, whatever it was. But for the

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Speaker 3: It was a win for the NBA.

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Speaker 5: I'm far from an All Star Game historian, but transparently,

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Speaker 5: bit of Devil's advocate. I don't think Adam Silver should

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Speaker 5: we should be praising the format. I think we should

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Speaker 5: a ton of credit to Victor Wenbanyama. He was outspoken

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Speaker 5: because it wasn't a game, it was whatever, and it

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Speaker 3: And I'll be transparent.

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Speaker 5: I went in with very low expectations and I thought

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Speaker 5: I thought it was good. I thought it was fun

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Speaker 4: I had no idea what to expect, and I can

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Speaker 4: the hardest, nobody else has any excuses. Sure, and this

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Speaker 4: ask Kevin Durant, blame Luka and Jokic. But yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: it could be. Yeah, absolutely, It's a great point. But

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Speaker 4: But what NASCAR needed to do at one point was

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Speaker 4: you had different segments how their points system was run.

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Speaker 4: that competitiveness, I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't need to see a.

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Speaker 4: True game of East's Best versus West Best, or World's

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Speaker 4: know if it's in the regular format, if Victor Weman

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Speaker 4: Yama playing hard is gonna spread through everyone else. But

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Speaker 4: even just shortening those twelve minutes and there's no excuse

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, thinking out loud about it.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I do think Wemby uniquely is a

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Speaker 3: That Lebron and everybody.

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Speaker 5: But again, Wemby is one of the few guys that

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Speaker 5: But the counter to that is what you said. There

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Speaker 5: So maybe I'm nitpicking too much on how we got

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Speaker 3: It was entertaining on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we care about East West anymore,

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Speaker 3: Hey, right.

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Speaker 4: When you have a world team, you may have been

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Speaker 5: And I think the more that we're talking it out,

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Speaker 5: and I think maybe I just need to acknowledge that however,

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Speaker 5: We did in fact get there, and like I said,

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Speaker 5: it was it was a good It was a good watch,

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Speaker 6: We're giving people credit for trying. I can only imagine

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Speaker 3: Honest, right, you know, Fish's off the hook, It's gone.

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Speaker 6: You're saying is that the NBA thinks the Pepsi, but

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Speaker 4: He's erin Torre as I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, Iowa.

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Speaker 4: I'm Dan Bayer And for the guys on this President's Day,

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Speaker 10: There was a foul in the second half, the last

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Speaker 10: play of the game, just to get the ball. They're

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Speaker 10: grabbing us and holding us. Okay, and again I understand

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Speaker 10: if you're not calling that, that's fine. You had the

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Speaker 10: exact same play at both ends, in the last play

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Speaker 10: of the game.

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Speaker 3: The exact same playing. So I need the new commissioner

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Speaker 3: of the Horizon.

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Speaker 10: League to explain to me what a technical foul is

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Speaker 10: when I don't leave the box, I don't curse, I'm

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Speaker 10: not demonstrative. Okay, there is nothing, nothing that should have

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Speaker 10: been called a technical foul.

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Speaker 3: I know when I earned one. I did not earn one.

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Speaker 4: That was Doug Gottlieb yesterday. There we mentioned when viral

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Speaker 4: memes he was turned into the Incredible Hulk by one outlet.

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Speaker 4: Doug Gottlieb joins the Pro twenty four hours later. Coach,

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Speaker 4: is there anything you would like to say differently than

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Speaker 4: what you said after yesterday's lost to Milwaukee?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, a million things. I mean, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 8: going to hold myself accounta before end of the game,

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Speaker 8: I had my full voted timeouts, and I felt like, I,

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Speaker 8: you know, I like the fact that we knew what

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Speaker 8: we were supposed to be into. I just I didn't like,

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Speaker 8: in hindsight to play call. It was a counter to

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Speaker 8: something we've been running. So, you know, I definitely need

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Speaker 8: to be better in terms of helping our guys get

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Speaker 8: better shots and get better looks and get them more

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Speaker 8: lined up. And then you know he can't he just

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Speaker 8: can't criticize the officials publically. I mean, he can't do it.

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Speaker 8: I have no I mean no one should have any

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Speaker 8: problem with saying I just I deserve an explanation on

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Speaker 8: technical foul, which I did get.

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Speaker 3: But you got I got the explanation you finally did.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was that it is that the official herd

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Speaker 8: the F word, which I have a comfortable relationship with

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Speaker 8: the F word, but I absolutely didn't say it there,

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Speaker 8: and you know, you know, look here, here's the way

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Speaker 8: it actually works on the sidelines. And honestly, like, well,

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Speaker 8: I think about it. We can pull the tape because

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Speaker 8: I'm miked up, so we could say I did say

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Speaker 8: the F word, but because I definitely said it afterwards,

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Speaker 8: yes you did, but huh, yes, no, But I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know, muttering myself over there, like everything requires context.

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Speaker 8: You know, even the F word doesn't get you a

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Speaker 8: technical foul. It's you know, how it's used, when it's used,

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Speaker 8: how demonsters you are on the court. Have they warned you,

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Speaker 8: you know, quality officiating in It was a three point

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Speaker 8: game at the time, and quality officiating is Hey, coach,

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Speaker 8: that's it. That's what they that's what they do. They

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Speaker 8: really good ones say hey, that's it, or they come

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Speaker 8: by you and they like, hey, one morning, I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to beg it

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Speaker 8: all right. But that never happened because the honest truth

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Speaker 8: Dan is I've been working all year on my sideline

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Speaker 8: de Korum, and I'm always pretty good to the officials.

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Speaker 8: I usually I'm pretty intense early on, and they know why.

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Speaker 8: I kind of settled down, but it's more about my

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Speaker 8: guys and having them ready to play, and you know,

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Speaker 8: how the game's being officiated early on sets the tone

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Speaker 8: for how we can how we can play offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 8: But my issue with it was, in addition to the

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Speaker 8: fact that he apparently heard something that wasn't said, was

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Speaker 8: that you know, there's no conversation before, there's no warning,

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Speaker 8: there's no nothing, and then afterwards it was almost as

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Speaker 8: if everyone knew that there was a mistake made, so

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Speaker 8: nobody wanted to come by. Because normally the referee there's

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Speaker 8: one guy who's the referee, and he's actually kind of

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Speaker 8: control of that stuff. They come by like, hey, what

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Speaker 8: happened the all right? We got you? You know, they

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Speaker 8: kind of talk you down off a ledge that didn't happen.

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Speaker 8: So but yeah, I did get an explanation. If I

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Speaker 8: could do it again, I wouldn't brought up any of

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Speaker 8: the other stuff. You know, it's not worth it. I

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Speaker 8: disagree with some of the calls, not the reason we

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Speaker 8: lost the game. We got to be better. We had

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Speaker 8: an eight point lead with under eight to go, and

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Speaker 8: we got to find a way to close, take better shots.

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Speaker 8: I got to make better decisions as far as who's

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Speaker 8: in the game, what we're running, what we're doing, and

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Speaker 8: we got to clean it up. And yeah, I mean

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Speaker 8: I strongly disagree with a couple of calls, But you know,

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Speaker 8: what are you gonna do? Like, there's literally nothing you

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Speaker 8: can do other than complain to the complain to the

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Speaker 8: supervisor officials at the league, and then they go back

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Speaker 8: and review and they tell you if you're right or

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Speaker 8: so if you're wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Doug, I was going to ask you, first of all,

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Speaker 5: great to speak with you, man, and I was going

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Speaker 5: to ask you. You know you hear coaches all the time.

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Speaker 5: Brad Underwood said it in one of his press conferences

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Speaker 5: last week about I'm sending I'm sending a tape to

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Speaker 5: the league office, like would basically the insinuation be like,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to send two or three plays to the

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Speaker 5: league to let them know that they missed this call.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a little inside baseball, but how does

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Speaker 5: that process actually work? Because you probably hear it about

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Speaker 5: a dozen times a year throughout college basketball from various coaches.

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Speaker 8: It's a great question. Okay, So here's how it works.

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Speaker 8: After every game, they send out to your director of basswops.

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Speaker 8: They send out like a grading scale for every all

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Speaker 8: the refs, and then if you greatly disagree with some

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Speaker 8: calls whatever, you can send them into this queue and

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Speaker 8: then they come, they review the queue, and they send

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Speaker 8: back to you how the guy graded out. So the

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Speaker 8: idea of I'm sending it in, you can send it

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Speaker 8: in every time, and by the way, your DOVO sends

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Speaker 8: them in every time. And the reason I feel like

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Speaker 8: I have a good relationship with the league is I

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Speaker 8: don't call them after every game. I'm just not that guy.

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Speaker 8: You know, We've had other opportunities at times or in

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Speaker 8: the year where we felt like, you know, not the

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Speaker 8: greatest officiating in the world. Whatever. But you know, I'm

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Speaker 8: not going to be to complain about it, because the

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Speaker 8: more you complain about it, become a whiner, and officials,

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Speaker 8: I feel like tune you out. But I was. I

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Speaker 8: was super passionate. And that's a gigantic game for us.

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Speaker 8: We just played the best game of my early coaching

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Speaker 8: career against Fort Wayne on Thursday. You know, at home,

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Speaker 8: we thumped them, We played great defense. Milwaukee's a little wounded.

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Speaker 8: We beat them at home, you know, the chance to

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Speaker 8: sweep them after they beat us twice last year, and

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Speaker 8: and and all the other things. It's a big and

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Speaker 8: state rivalry and I think, you know, in hindsight, with

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Speaker 8: some growth, I'll take a breath and just avoid it

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Speaker 8: in the future. But I look, I'm fired up for

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Speaker 8: my players and I want them to feel like that

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Speaker 8: they have a coach that's willing to fight for them.

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Speaker 8: And I was. I was really disappointed in me. You know,

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Speaker 8: that one call, I just think a and you know,

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Speaker 8: it puts us in a bad spot where now, all

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Speaker 8: of a sudden, we got two guys with four fouls

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Speaker 8: that are starters. And it does happen to everybody. I

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Speaker 8: get it, but it's you know, what's the legitimacy of

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Speaker 8: every different call? And this is the same at both ends.

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Speaker 8: That's really all you can hope for. Like, I don't

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Speaker 8: think if anybody thinks I thought there's anything nefarious at work,

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Speaker 8: that's not the case. I just all you can all

575
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Speaker 8: you can do with your guys is say, hey, there,

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Speaker 8: you have to feel the game. Understand they call it tight,

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Speaker 8: they call it lose. Usually the first five minutes of

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Speaker 8: each half they call it super tight. Then either loosen

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Speaker 8: up or they don't. You got to kind of figure

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Speaker 8: that out. You're going to work with your team on it.

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Speaker 8: But if it's not consistent, it's really hard to coach

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Speaker 8: your guys on what you can do. And then the

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Speaker 8: big thing for us is how are we going to

584
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Speaker 8: play defense? You know, we teach them play with their bodies,

585
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Speaker 8: not with their hands, and we feel like sometimes that

586
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Speaker 8: you know, the offense gets the benefit of doubt where

587
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Speaker 8: they jump into you and they cause contact and it's hard.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying it's easy to officiate. The only thing

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Speaker 8: we ask for is them to be consistent.

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Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: The head coach at the Green Bay men's basketball team

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Speaker 4: that fell to Milwaukee yesterday in controversial fashion, and Doug

593
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Speaker 4: Gottlieb's postgame comments went viral yesterday. So we're following up

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Speaker 4: on that. Have you heard from the Commissioner's office at

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Speaker 4: all about what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Borrow tomorrow? Okay tomorrow now when you.

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Speaker 8: See you, amissioner too, So she like just took the job.

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Speaker 11: Sure, putting a lot on her plate on day one,

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Speaker 11: Doug Man, The point that I was going to say is, Doug,

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Speaker 11: you know this like there people people will wake up in.

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Speaker 4: The middle of the night just to disagree with you.

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Speaker 4: And I heard so many people on your side. I

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Speaker 4: had more than a handful of people send me the

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Speaker 4: video of your comments. One anonymous person I didn't want

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Speaker 4: to name him sent me said I watched the entire

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Speaker 4: game understand his frustration. Those refs were terrible. Watching the game,

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Speaker 4: I wondered if one ref wanted Milwaukee to win, does

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Speaker 4: that make you feel any better when people are on

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Speaker 4: your side and at least seeing your point when you

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Speaker 4: when you hear comments like that, yeah.

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Speaker 8: But like again, and do I put my my key

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Speaker 8: even a bad spot moving forward. We got two more

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Speaker 8: road games here before I finished up a Youngstown and

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Speaker 8: we got to win a couple more if we want

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Speaker 8: to get a home home game in the conference tournament.

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Speaker 8: And I mean, you know, yesterday we got a chance

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Speaker 8: to move up in a second, be half game out

618
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Speaker 8: of first or whatever, would have been a gigantic thing

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Speaker 8: for us, and we lost. And you can't just sit

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Speaker 8: here blaming the officials whatever. And you know, I mean,

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Speaker 8: officials are a type fraternity. Are they going to think

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Speaker 8: that I got it out for all of them when

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Speaker 8: I do not? So does it feel better? Like? I guess?

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Speaker 8: But you know it's like one of those you can

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Speaker 8: drive a car your feet, that doesn't make it a

626
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Speaker 8: good idea. And you know, you just got to be

627
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Speaker 8: really cautious with you know, obviously I have a big platform,

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Speaker 8: and as you said, Ben, you know, people, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 8: I've always cared about what I say and what I do.

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Speaker 8: And with that, you just got to be careful about

631
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Speaker 8: when you use that power when you do not. And

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Speaker 8: because people agree with you doesn't mean it's the right

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Speaker 8: thing to do. So you know, you look, you learn

634
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Speaker 8: a million things. I remember when I was hosting and

635
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Speaker 8: I think we talked about it, but the comments were

636
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Speaker 8: before we all work together, which is you know, David

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Speaker 8: Blatt said, you know, it's like being a a fighter

638
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Speaker 8: pilot where you're making you know, two hundred decisions a

639
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Speaker 8: minute or whatever he said, And it really is true,

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Speaker 8: Like you're there's so many different things you're deciding right,

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Speaker 8: and you're working with the staff, and I have really

642
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Speaker 8: experienced staff, and I got to decide, Okay, am I

643
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Speaker 8: listening to them? Who am I listening to? What are

644
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 8: we seeing? What are we doing? Who are we playing?

645
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Speaker 8: How are we matching up with them? Man zone? What's

646
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Speaker 8: our ball screen coverage? What are we running? Do we

647
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Speaker 8: just let him play? You know, all those different things,

648
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Speaker 8: and and then again when the game's over, processing the

649
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Speaker 8: emotions of it, you know, defending your players, defending your

650
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Speaker 8: program on the other hand, not putting your program your

651
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 8: players in a bad spot. So you know, look, I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna learn from it, and I'm going to get better

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Speaker 8: because of it. But I got to get better as

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Speaker 8: a coach, and we got to run better stuff, and

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Speaker 8: we got to make a move more and control the

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Speaker 8: game more because we had it under control, we had

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Speaker 8: it in our tempo, and then we kind of scooled

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Speaker 8: it away.

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Speaker 3: Jason Stewart's got something for you, Doug.

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Speaker 6: We got about forty five seconds. You talked about how

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Speaker 6: people love to hate what you do. A year ago

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Speaker 6: today you were in the middle of this flood of

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Speaker 6: negative publicity and social media negativity. It was hell. I'm

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Speaker 6: sure quickly, how many of those people that were kicking

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Speaker 6: you in the teeth a year ago have sent you

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Speaker 6: private messages or gone on wind saying I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 6: was wrong, I was harsh.

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Speaker 8: You probably count on both hands. You know. My bigger

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Speaker 8: thing is places like ESPN where I'd worked and made

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Speaker 8: great relationships. Some other networks had had people, and maybe

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Speaker 8: it's their social media people whatever, But you know it's

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Speaker 8: some ya who at home is a keyboard warrior, didn't

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Speaker 8: like me or whatever. I can't control that. I don't

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Speaker 8: care some young Jake school student. I don't care. But

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Speaker 8: places that I've worked, where I've treated people well, I

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Speaker 8: was really bothered by and those those apologies have not

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Speaker 8: come in.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to have to sell the jet skis

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Speaker 3: after tomorrow?

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Speaker 8: It's the question, Oh, it's a great question. It's a

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Speaker 8: very good there. They're in storage at seminars and I

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Speaker 8: may I may have to. There's there's a hefty find

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Speaker 8: coming down. I mean the jet Skis. Oh that's a

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Speaker 8: damn Dan. You you you really don't have a t

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Speaker 8: off on me.

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Speaker 3: I am just saying, if.

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Speaker 8: The jet Skis got to go, the jet Skis got

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Speaker 8: to go.

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Speaker 4: Let's hope it doesn't come to that. Uh, we appreciate

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Speaker 4: the time we're pulling for you. Top five in that

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Speaker 4: conference is big for how your conference bracket is now

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Speaker 4: set up as well. So I get it, and I

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Speaker 4: got of all of the people that reached out to me.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's like, I agree with them. They were awful calls.

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Speaker 4: So you can at least take solace in that. Great

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Speaker 4: to catch up. We'll be watching again later this week.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, hi, boys.

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Speaker 4: Doug gottlie head coach the Green Bay Phoenix, went viral

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Speaker 4: from his postgame comments yesterday. Doug kind of clearing it

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Speaker 4: up today.

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Speaker 5: I know we got to get to Isaac, but that

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Speaker 5: was my I you know, sometimes you browse the comments

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Speaker 5: below the video. There was a lot of team Doug

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Speaker 5: gottlieb we need more accountability for these officials, So you know,

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Speaker 5: he stirred a lot in a lot of people with

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Speaker 5: those comments.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

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Speaker 2: listen live.

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Speaker 4: A Happy President's Day. Steve Gotz and company always love

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Speaker 4: to have fun with audio. We've got some audio that

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Speaker 4: we need to break down. We need to break down

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Speaker 4: because there's just a lot of levels, a lot of

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Speaker 4: layers to it, and it happened over all Star Game weekend.

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Speaker 4: There's also some audio that you may have seen over

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Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours of an outraged Doug Gottlieb,

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Speaker 4: the head coach of the Green Bay Phoenix. Doug iHeart

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Speaker 4: family member, and as many people know, had this time

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Speaker 4: slot for eight years before deciding, you know what, let's

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Speaker 4: focus on the Phoenix here. Doug's gonna join us in

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Speaker 4: about twenty five minutes or so to talk about what

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Speaker 4: actually happened last night in their loss to Milwaukee. Doug's

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Speaker 4: postgame reaction that has gone viral. There are memes, There

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Speaker 4: are animated videos of Doug turning into the Incredible Hulk

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Speaker 4: during his press conference last night. But Doug Gottlieb will

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Speaker 4: join us in about twenty twenty five minutes or so

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Speaker 4: to explain what actually happened in their loss last night

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Speaker 4: to Milwaukee and Doug's reaction. We'll see if he regrets

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Speaker 4: any event, there is anything that he wished he would

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Speaker 4: have said, anything he wants to take back. He'll join

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Speaker 4: us in about twenty five minutes. But a game that

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Speaker 4: was big rivalry game for Green Bay in that essence,

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Speaker 4: but also has a big say in the standings for

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Speaker 4: the Horizon League and how that conference tournament sets up,

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Speaker 4: So you can understand some of the frustration. But it

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Speaker 4: was one of the bigger stories that we had on

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Speaker 4: Daytona five hundred All Star Game Sunday Olympic and that

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Speaker 4: happening in college basketball.

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Speaker 5: It was a busy day. Everything overlapping was unfortunate. Daytona

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Speaker 5: was up head to head with the with the All

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Speaker 5: Star Game, but we set it to Leed Stu Gottson company,

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Speaker 5: and I will give credit words due. I'm somebody who

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Speaker 5: is critical of the NBA. I'm somebody who hosts on

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Speaker 5: Saturday nights and was very critical of All Star Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Thought we got a good overall product on the court

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Speaker 5: on Saturday or on Sunday. Excuse me, but I know

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Speaker 5: you maybe want to hear about what happened off the court.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: There was something that happened during a press conference with

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Speaker 4: Lebron James that a lot of people are taking. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you A lot of people are take Yeah, even that kid.

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Speaker 4: They are taking in a variety of different ways. This

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Speaker 4: was the exchange that Lebron had with a reporter in

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Speaker 4: advance of the All Star Game at the Intuit Dome,

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Speaker 4: home of the Clippers this past weekend.

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Speaker 12: Getting the opportunity to have an ulcerro game in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 12: What does that mean for you at this point in

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Speaker 12: your career getting opportunity to play in an ulcer game?

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Speaker 12: Weary are also playing day in and day out?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Nothing, because this is not our building, nothing at all.

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Speaker 7: I'm a I'm this is a road game.

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Speaker 3: Okay. My first My first reaction was, this.

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Speaker 4: Reporter doesn't realize that Lebron doesn't play his games in

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Speaker 4: this arena like day in and day out. Like he

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Speaker 4: doesn't know that there's a Staple Center or a crypto

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Speaker 4: dot com arena downtown, Like he doesn't understand that. And

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Speaker 4: then well, okay, and so so that was my initial

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Speaker 4: response to it, and then I listened to it again,

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Speaker 4: and I think the reporter understood that. If the reporter

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Speaker 4: didn't understand that, then that reporter should never be credentialed

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Speaker 4: again on anything there is.

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Speaker 3: There is no.

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Speaker 4: Reason to If he was just saying city of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 4: that's I don't think it's a great question, but I'll

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Speaker 4: give him the pass on the knowledge of saying that.

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Speaker 4: But if then that's ultimately the question. It is a

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Speaker 4: complete softball to Lebron James, complete softball of a question.

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Speaker 4: What does it mean to you to be playing in blank?

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Speaker 4: That's what the question was intended to be. Would you

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Speaker 4: disagree with?

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you, and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 5: cast is that how to say? Cast dispersions on the reporter?

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Speaker 5: What was the goal? What was the end game? Perfect

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Speaker 5: answer from Lebron that he loves LA like?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 5: Does it have something to do with him being a

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Speaker 5: free agent? Does is just for the LA Tourism Bureau?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 8: Was?

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Speaker 3: What was the Okay, that's who I think it is

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 4: I think this is also there's something that happens with

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Speaker 4: people in press conferences and this is difficult for a

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Speaker 4: listener because you're not in that setting. So I don't

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Speaker 4: want to talk to inside shop. But there is a

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Speaker 4: hierarchy of asking questions, and there are times where people

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Speaker 4: will ask pointless questions just to have a somewhat good

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Speaker 4: rapport with SEID athletes, and I feel that that's what

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Speaker 4: this was trying to do. This was whoever the reporter was,

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Speaker 4: was trying to curry favor with Lebron James by asking

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Speaker 4: him a question that this reporter felt was a softball

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Speaker 4: that Lebron could just hit out of the park that

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Speaker 4: you could then show on your local news on k

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Speaker 4: CAL nine or CBS two or ABC seven. That's what

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Speaker 4: I thought that the question was, because I don't think

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Speaker 4: that when that question is asked, I don't think that

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Speaker 4: you have any idea that Lebron is going to answer

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Speaker 4: like that. Of course not, well he only.

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Speaker 5: Should, but yeah, for the audience, that's you know, we

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Speaker 5: know the audience. Can you know, change quickly play I

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Speaker 5: would yeah, I think it's best to play it sound again.

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Speaker 12: Getting opportunity to have an Ulcar game in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 12: what does that mean for you at this point in

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Speaker 12: your career? Getting opportunity to play in an ulscar game,

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Speaker 12: wary er also playing day in and day out.

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Speaker 7: Uh, nothing, because this is not our building, nothing at all.

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Speaker 7: I'm a I'm this is a road game.

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Speaker 5: And really quickly for people that you know, listen, I

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Speaker 5: am far from a Lebron apologist. But for people who

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Speaker 5: don't understand, this would essentially be the equivalent of the

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Speaker 5: All Star Game being in Brooklyn and somebody asking Jalen Brunson,

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Speaker 5: what does it mean to have the All Star Game

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Speaker 5: here in New York City or you know whatever Mookie

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Speaker 5: bets if the All Star Game was in Anaheim. It's

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Speaker 5: like it is actually a very just question, unless to

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Speaker 5: your point, you know, he thinks he's given up a

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Speaker 5: softball and that Lebron and him are gonna be best

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Speaker 5: buddy's going.

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Speaker 4: For and he's gonna knock it out of the park,

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Speaker 4: and the Lebron answer to it may position it in

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Speaker 4: a way where how I originally thought that the reporter

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Speaker 4: didn't realize that the Lakers don't play there like that's

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Speaker 4: and and you never know who they give out credentials to.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you this that Fox Sports Radio applied

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Speaker 4: for three NBA All Star game credentials and one got approved.

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Speaker 4: Yet influencers I had heard received a ton of credentials

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Speaker 4: for this game, so there could be another opportunity again.

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Speaker 4: The influencing game we had. We applied for three because

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Speaker 4: it's in our backyard and we got approved for one.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that to me, if we're really trying

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Speaker 5: to dig into the bottom of this, I am I am.

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Speaker 5: I want to dig because I think there's a lot here.

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Speaker 5: I think all you got to do instead of, you know,

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Speaker 5: you got to flip the camera back on you, because

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Speaker 5: that's it was probably some TikTok dude with eight hundred

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Speaker 5: thousand followers that doesn't know basketball.

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Speaker 3: That, like you said, it's.

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Speaker 5: My moment in time to talk about talk to Lebron,

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Speaker 5: and then I get I get to say that I

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Speaker 5: asked this question, I got a great answer, and I

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Speaker 5: get to share it on all my platforms. That is

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Speaker 5: what I am going to assume without having any idea

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Speaker 5: who the person is that asked.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm curious on Jason Stewart's thoughts. Isaac lohingcron respected

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Speaker 4: member of the media. Isaac, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 9: Do you have respected Oh yeah, yeah, no, you are right.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any issues with this question.

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Speaker 9: After listening to it again, I honestly didn't because I

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Speaker 9: think the wording was more Los Angeles than Arena centered. However,

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Speaker 9: the grander point, I completely agree with it, and I've

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Speaker 9: felt that way for some some time. I think it's

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Speaker 9: fascinating slash disappointing to see the difference between influencer media

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Speaker 9: and journalistic sports media, if I can put it that way,

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Speaker 9: and how things are now starting to cater to the

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Speaker 9: influencer media.

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Speaker 4: And the one defense of the reporter is he did

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Speaker 4: give the opportunity for Lebron to take it wherever Lebron

870
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 4: wanted to take it, because it was such an awful question,

871
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: and Lebron took it where he wanted to take it.

872
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: There is that angle to it where there are times

873
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: when reporters, I'm guilty of it as well. Well, we'll

874
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: corner an answer out of someone, they'll give him two options,

875
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 4: and then a lot of times you'll hear a little

876
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: bit of both, and then nothing is nothing is really answered.

877
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 4: You want to keep it open ended. This was so

878
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: open ended that Lebron could take his agenda and do

879
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: what he wanted to do, and that was to say,

880
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean as much to me to be in

881
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 4: Los Angeles. This is also the third All Star Game

882
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: that Lebron has played in Los Angeles, so just being

883
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: in LA from that aspect now, in twenty eleven when

884
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: he was here, he was a member of the Miami Heat.

885
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen was the other year that the All Star

886
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: Game was here, so there wasn't there wasn't him being

887
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: a Laker at the time. But he has been at

888
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: an All Star Game in LA, just not in a Lakers' uniform,

889
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: So there is that history to talk about. Jason Stewart,

890
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: when you heard this audio, what stood out to you.

891
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 6: It's kind of what you're going into about how Lebron

892
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 6: knew the question and he could have taken it however

893
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 6: whatever path he wanted, and he chose in that moment,

894
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 6: for whatever reason, to make fun of the question. And

895
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 6: I guess it was some kind of a dig towards

896
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 6: the Equippers, Okay, or if you really want to take

897
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 6: into context and really take this seriously, Lebron has never

898
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 6: been about the approval from Los Angeles. He's never made

899
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 6: an attempt to get approval from Los Angeles. This has

900
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 6: never been a Lakers Lebron marriage. It's been a last

901
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 6: stop of Lebron to do whatever Lebron wants to do

902
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 6: with his brand. So that's kind of how I took this,

903
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 6: not only dismissing the question, making fun of the question,

904
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 6: but it was also a why would he ever take

905
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 6: a chance to show how much he meers a city

906
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 6: that he's never given any kind of effort and to

907
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 6: create in a relationship with.

908
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: And I think that's very fair. And I also think

909
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: that he took the opportunity on his way out, which

910
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 4: sure seems like he is out of Los Angeles after

911
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: this season. That's like a almost a parting shot in

912
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 4: a way, with all of the NBA's eyes on him.

913
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 5: Do you do you think that he shouldn't have answered

914
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 5: it that way? Like do you think he should have

915
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: given the Well, you know, Los Angeles has been great

916
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: to me and this isn't technically my arena, but any time,

917
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 5: because I actually almost it's not that I even have

918
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 5: a quote unquote problem with the answer. I actually think

919
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 5: that's the correct answer. Like, like I said, you know,

920
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 5: I can't you know, there's no parallel in our business.

921
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: But again, if somebody was like, hey, Jalen Brunson, Man,

922
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: it just it must mean so much to I have

923
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 5: this All Star Game in Brooklyn. He's like, this is

924
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 5: actually I've never even spent time in Brooklyn outside of

925
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: when we play games here, Like, I don't know anything

926
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 5: about it.

927
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 3: Might as well be in you know, Orlando.

928
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: Victor Webenyama. The All Star Game is on Earth. How

929
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 4: much does that mean to you? Like, that's that's just

930
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: as open ended as you're going to get.

931
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: And that's a.

932
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 5: Hemisphere as Hey, Scotty Hemisphere All Star Game. Scotty Barnes,

933
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: what does it mean to you? We know you play

934
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 5: in Toronto.

935
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: You know what?

936
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 5: What does it mean that North America is hosting this

937
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 5: All Star Game?

938
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 8: Oh?

939
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 13: Can you take us behind the scenes? That's I I

940
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 13: agree with you. I don't want Lebron to give us

941
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 13: the I think answer. That's why I didn't have as

942
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 13: much of a pro I didn't have a problem with

943
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 13: Lebron's answer. I had a problem with the question and

944
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 13: when the question originated. There is also something within this

945
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 13: and I want Chris to play this again because it's

946
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 13: the media member laughter Chapter ninety four. Here it comes

947
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 13: in Listen to the media laugh because they're laughing at

948
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 13: the reporter because they also want to be on the

949
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 13: side of Lebron James.

950
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Here was that exchange? Just play it again.

951
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 12: Getting opportunity to have an ulcer game in Los Angeles?

952
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 12: What does that mean for you at this point in

953
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 12: your career. Get an opportunity to play in an ulcer game?

954
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 12: Warier also playing day in and day out.

955
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 8: Uh?

956
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 7: Nothing, because this is not our building, nothing at all.

957
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 7: This is a road game.

958
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 5: I'm asking you a question. You've been in a lot

959
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 5: of press conferences. Have you ever asked a question that

960
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 5: you thought you were going to get a certain response

961
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 5: and then you didn't but almost in a way that

962
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 5: is intended to make you feel embarrassed?

963
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I will say this.

964
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 5: That's bad enough, but having the media immediately side with

965
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 5: the other person and not you. That's one where he

966
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 5: kind of walked, you know, you kind of walk around

967
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 5: with your head down there.

968
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the instance. It was early on in

969
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 4: my time at Fox Sports Radio. It was Super Bowl

970
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: forty and it's the Seahawks against the Steelers, and if

971
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: you remember, it's twenty years ago, there was a war

972
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: of words between Joey Porter Senior now I have to say,

973
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 4: and no, not in Ben Roethlisberg, that's now, but Joey

974
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: Porter Senior and Seahawks head and Jeremy Stevens. And there

975
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: was a back and forth with them. And this was

976
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 4: later on in the week, so you know, Stevens had

977
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: said something, Porter had said something, and Joey Porter talked

978
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: about one of the reasons why he kept this going

979
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 4: was to take the heat off of Ben Roethlisberger, who

980
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: was a second year quarterback playing in a Super Bowl.

981
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 4: And it totally worked because I remember Ben going around

982
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: the media room with his handheld video camera and it

983
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: was all fun. But because all of the attention was

984
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: on Joey Porter, I asked Joey Porter what he thought

985
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: about Jeremy Stevens and his stats. I was like, I

986
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 4: followed the Seahawks. I was a Seahawks fan. In that role,

987
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 4: I was a reporter. I wasn't trying to do anything,

988
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: but I didn't have the stats on me. I didn't

989
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: have them in my head. And Joey Porter said, what

990
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 4: about his stats? That's not my job. What are his stats?

991
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: That's your job, And so the other reporter sitting there

992
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: laughing at me, But I didn't care about them because

993
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 4: then I knew, like, oh, I see how you guys are.

994
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: I see like you side with them. So that's why

995
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: I hear the laughing people in the back, and I'm like,

996
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: you're just as worse as the question. So I've been there,

997
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: done that. Joey Porter absolutely put me in my place.

998
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what he also did. I learned a lesson.

999
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: If you're gonna ask a question, be prepared to have

1000
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: the information to back it up. So while I learned

1001
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 4: a lesson and it was embarrassing at that time, it

1002
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: also gave me great perspective on what happened and maybe

1003
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: that will happen with this reporter moving forward. But it

1004
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: was more of the laughter that I heard in that

1005
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: that made me think of the other reporters that were

1006
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 4: also around at that time. By the way, the SoundBite

1007
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 4: that I got from it of him was one that

1008
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: was used because guess what, Joey Porter got a little hot.

1009
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: Joey Porter got a little you know, super Bowl weekend.

1010
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, You're just saying I experienced it.

1011
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 4: So there has been.

1012
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: Ail though, when something you ask becomes a big story.

1013
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was completely my fault, I take. I

1014
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: should have had the numbers to back it up to

1015
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: get the answer to it. I wasn't trying to play

1016
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: got you on Joey Porter and it he took it

1017
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 4: as maybe I was and turned it around on me.

1018
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: And it's something that I learned. So yeah, I've been

1019
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: there and done that before. But I don't think that

1020
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: Joey Porter and Lebron had the same sort of Lebron

1021
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: had his narrative. Joey Porter didn't know what the narrative,

1022
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 4: you know, like, and how it was going to work.

1023
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 4: So Joey Porter, I think, fared better in Lebron in

1024
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: that way. But Lebron was able to tell his story

1025
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: the way that he wanted to tell his story. I

1026
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: had more problems with the laughter in the background than

1027
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: anything else.

1028
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say this is somebody who is far

1029
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: from a Lebron apologist. I actually not only did I

1030
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: not mind his response, I actually respected it more than

1031
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 5: him trying to soften it, like him trying to be like, yeah,

1032
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 5: you know, it's not technically arena, but anytime I can

1033
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: put on for the city, it's like no, to Jay

1034
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 5: Seuw's point, it's not your city. You know, you may

1035
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 5: stay here after you retire, but you've been here five

1036
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 5: six years as I had no problem with that.

1037
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: And to Jason Stewart's point as well, Mark Meden, our

1038
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: guest that we had last hour, wrote about Lebron not

1039
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: having the warm feelings to Las, so there is there

1040
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,840
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