Speaker 1: This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at
Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John And this
Speaker 1: is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.
Speaker 1: Let's getting down to do it. Good do it. We
Speaker 1: asked the questions you always want to know, but no
Speaker 1: one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard
Speaker 1: them about it, then we're about to let you know.
Speaker 1: It's all, hey, where's your glass? You don't have You
Speaker 1: just don't have them. Okay, it's not a button until
Speaker 1: you put your glasses on. My wife for my birthday
Speaker 1: lass no. Two months ago in December, whoa, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: Did you almost forget your own birthday? Remember what was there?
Speaker 1: So for my birthday, my wife got me the my
Speaker 1: heritage shout out to shout southside hot point. She got
Speaker 1: me the my heritage thing. So they do the DNA
Speaker 1: swab where you have to do the cotton ball, the
Speaker 1: cotton swab or whatever is it like the test like
Speaker 1: the know you don't put in your nose, didn't you
Speaker 1: swab your you swab your cheeky? So they give you
Speaker 1: two of them, put them in the vals. You ship
Speaker 1: them off. So I literally got my results back May
Speaker 1: about two days ago. Would you like for me to
Speaker 1: read them to you? Absolutely, so I'll get hit. A
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I'll get to the point. The most
Speaker 1: talent thing that I found out about this is that
Speaker 1: while most of my heritage over six is from Africa,
Speaker 1: range which from ranging from Nigeria to see her really
Speaker 1: on to Kenya to which part of you don't tell
Speaker 1: me all that, but you're trying to get way too specifics,
Speaker 1: don't You don't give all that. I don't give you
Speaker 1: all that. I don't know if it's got that kind
Speaker 1: of capable. If you're gonna do it, don't go all out.
Speaker 1: I think it's more to see your paychecks. It's more
Speaker 1: to the to the get the goal level capabilities. There
Speaker 1: ain't no levels to it. It ain't no level. It's
Speaker 1: always it ain't no levels to this is my hairtage game.
Speaker 1: Any who, it's some of my families from Ethiopia. So
Speaker 1: I did the twenty three and me had the had
Speaker 1: the North African in there. Okay, but what was most
Speaker 1: surprising is most tail I'm thirty three white, say it
Speaker 1: ain't so it's so you know, what that Actually, it's not.
Speaker 1: I'm light skinned, so it ain't. I didn't go into
Speaker 1: this thing, but I didn't. I didn't think you're thirty
Speaker 1: three percent, didn't need so now that you're thirty three percent,
Speaker 1: tell me a few things just bang pop up in
Speaker 1: in your head. When you discovered your thirty three percent bank,
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the bank and see if
Speaker 1: maybe I could get a very special rate four anything
Speaker 1: loans anything. What you mean special rate? The rate you
Speaker 1: have right now currently is not good? What all this though?
Speaker 1: Maybe I would be able to get something sense. I
Speaker 1: am now part of the Caucasian heritage. I thought there
Speaker 1: may be some sort of I call up Joe Memphis.
Speaker 1: I call it backstage, and I'm like, bro, can you
Speaker 1: believe what? So what you called Joe up first instead
Speaker 1: of me? Well, you're not white? You know the black
Speaker 1: experience I'm trying to understand. I'm trying to understand more
Speaker 1: of the white hair dig right. So I actually call
Speaker 1: up my man Joe, and I'm like, hey, Joe, you
Speaker 1: will never forget this. I did my DNA test and
Speaker 1: it tells my third three percent white verbatim. And we
Speaker 1: just we just brought backstage Joe up. So of course
Speaker 1: my answer was welcome to the team. That is, how
Speaker 1: is the A step going right now? Well, I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was gonna have Gerard come to the house and teacher,
Speaker 1: but apparently he came down. It dis qualifies you. So
Speaker 1: so all the folks out there that that maybe follow
Speaker 1: us on social media, maybe about a month or so ago,
Speaker 1: we post some adolescent pictures of Steve adolescent adolescent, say
Speaker 1: it with me. It's just the way it came out.
Speaker 1: I just was wondering where you have to start talking
Speaker 1: like that big words so and I told you you're
Speaker 1: getting and I told you he's still saving me per
Speaker 1: six No, no, no, no, that's sixty seven sixty seven.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'm actually kind of his sature looked
Speaker 1: like Bruno Mars and I thought it was and I
Speaker 1: didn't know obviously he was taking this test. And then
Speaker 1: when it came back, I was like, holy cow, and
Speaker 1: he's one of us, Gerard, little John, well not actually, David.
Speaker 1: Now you're pushing now when I put the Stevens out
Speaker 1: of my pocket, we're going to d them already. Get
Speaker 1: that change. So I asked, I'm like, hey, how does
Speaker 1: it feel to be like a card carrying member. Now
Speaker 1: I've made a few calls. Man, he's still under investigation.
Speaker 1: If you got the gold package Ebony, it had been better,
Speaker 1: but that silver package and giving us the details. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so ask me some other things, other things that I thought.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, other things. What it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like now when I get pulled over? Can I can
Speaker 1: I say, hey, officer, you know what I can't do that?
Speaker 1: You could try that if you won't gonna work. I
Speaker 1: think I think it has a little bit of a limit,
Speaker 1: don't it. Favorite basketball player now, Larry No, you're not. No,
Speaker 1: Kurt Rambiser, Chris Muller, why are you profiling? I was
Speaker 1: trying not to do like all the international guys. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, Luca Duncan, but I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: really go down. No, you can't know, you can't go
Speaker 1: that around anymore. No before but some real stuff though
Speaker 1: it was it was one of the best birthday gifts
Speaker 1: that I have received because you know, has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with it, but honestly, it's finding out where you
Speaker 1: come from. It's finding out kind of where your roots are.
Speaker 1: Because one thing I think I've mentioned this actually in
Speaker 1: our podcast with with c J. So Pale was that
Speaker 1: he has this broad lineage of history and knows where
Speaker 1: he comes from, not just from a country, but from
Speaker 1: um even all the way down to what tribe all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and it's so cool and from from my family.
Speaker 1: We don't have that, and so my family is relatively small,
Speaker 1: and all I really know is that most of my
Speaker 1: folks came poured it in from Charleston and where slaves
Speaker 1: and settled in roughly around like the Gaffney, South Carolina area.
Speaker 1: So to have even this little bit, now, this isn't
Speaker 1: a this isn't a family tree type of thing. It
Speaker 1: really is like, hey, here's your makeup of your DNA,
Speaker 1: but just to know, like, man, this is where I
Speaker 1: came from. For me, it's actually really really cool because
Speaker 1: I just have never had that before. So this is
Speaker 1: actually one of the more cooler things that I've ever done.
Speaker 1: And it's really probably the best birthday gif I had.
Speaker 1: We've joked a lot or whatever, and we're making fun
Speaker 1: of it. I hope I don't lose my black Affelt
Speaker 1: contract now, but it is really really cool. Now you're
Speaker 1: not gonna lose it because I mean just even the
Speaker 1: fact that I know, even the fact, you know, just
Speaker 1: discovering all that, and you know, I think sometimes there
Speaker 1: is some skepticism with people on are they trying to
Speaker 1: gather your DNA or information to track and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's more I know, but it's just more of
Speaker 1: understanding it. But I can tell you this. You come back,
Speaker 1: you know on the heritage thirty three percent. But I
Speaker 1: could I could have told by your beer, No, brother,
Speaker 1: you got that African American nation. No, it wasn't it.
Speaker 1: This gout. All of that is just like, I know what,
Speaker 1: it's cool. You know what. I honestly knew that I'm
Speaker 1: pretty light skinned. Who hasn't seen before I'm pretty light sking,
Speaker 1: so I knew, you know, I wouldn't. I wasn't batting
Speaker 1: the thousand when it came to be fully black, so
Speaker 1: I knew something else was in there. It's just a
Speaker 1: matter of man, well that's that's exactly way from from
Speaker 1: French and German and all this different stuff. It's actually
Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's actually know from which you come from.
Speaker 1: I don't know. For me, I thought it was really cool.
Speaker 1: So we made some jokes. It's really cool. I will
Speaker 1: not try this with the police stuff. Just being honest.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying that. I like my co host. Hey
Speaker 1: who we got coming up on the Cut to It podcast.
Speaker 1: We've got Jennifer King, the first black woman to become
Speaker 1: a full time coach in the NFL. A former football
Speaker 1: player herself, she also coached women's basketball. Jennifer King on
Speaker 1: the Cut to It podcast. Get Iced Up. Now, that's
Speaker 1: our version of Icebreakers. Smithy's got some random questions. There
Speaker 1: may be a follow up. It might be an open
Speaker 1: ended question, might be a multiple choice question. I got
Speaker 1: no idea. You don't either. Go ahead and for the
Speaker 1: first one. All right, here we go. You ready, man?
Speaker 1: It is a open book tests about you, so if
Speaker 1: you fail, it's your I got you, all right? So,
Speaker 1: waffle cone or cake cones? Uh? Waffle? Yeah, white waffle.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's kind of classic. It tastes a
Speaker 1: little better, you know, with the ice cream at the end.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why I like it. I do
Speaker 1: love cake conbes. I don't know why they're not bad.
Speaker 1: I'm not trashing them, but you know, it gave me
Speaker 1: a choice. You gotta shoes, you do you? You know,
Speaker 1: obviously with the pandemic and everything going on, do you like,
Speaker 1: let's go pre COVID dining in or take out? I'm
Speaker 1: on a dining in person. You know. I like to
Speaker 1: get the whole experience. I'm kind of foodie, so I
Speaker 1: love to go to different spots, so I like to
Speaker 1: have experience. Okay, so you your foodie, all right, So
Speaker 1: what's your what's your favorite food? There? My favorite food?
Speaker 1: Like this is go It's not gonna be a foodie food.
Speaker 1: But I love pizza, like all different kinds, so I
Speaker 1: like to try. Yeah, okay, what kind of pizza? Right?
Speaker 1: You know, A foody answer would be something like fancy,
Speaker 1: but just you know, just keep it, keep it real
Speaker 1: with you man. Okay, so what kind of piece? What
Speaker 1: don't you like on your pizza? I like a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff, so like I don't really like onions, but
Speaker 1: pretty much anything else can go on it, like the Supreme,
Speaker 1: just put everything on it, edgies, everything like that. You see.
Speaker 1: You don't know, but I love pizza. There we go
Speaker 1: when I love pizza, like I have pretty much during
Speaker 1: the football season and off every Sunday, we have pizza
Speaker 1: like pizza do favorite? So you don't do the frozen pizza. Hunh.
Speaker 1: You have a whole contraption, right, Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: pizza oven at the house that I built this pizza. No,
Speaker 1: it's not your average pizza. It's a I got it,
Speaker 1: uh built ship and put together. And I can make
Speaker 1: pezze when I say pizza, like I make my own
Speaker 1: dough hift boy, shift boy. All right, last question and
Speaker 1: we out of this one. A. What's hard of the coach? Offense,
Speaker 1: special teams or defense? Oh? Man, that's tough. Um, I
Speaker 1: know that's a tough one man, just because they all
Speaker 1: have their difficulties. Um. I would probably say offense, you know,
Speaker 1: just because I'm a little question, just because now there's
Speaker 1: so many things defensive can throw at you. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: especially working with running backs, you know, protection wise, sometimes
Speaker 1: you get surprised by stuff and exotics. Did they saying? So?
Speaker 1: I would just say offense for that reason. But you know,
Speaker 1: defense is a beast. Two now with all these crazy
Speaker 1: offenses out here. I asked that because of no owing,
Speaker 1: each individual position, like special teams, is his own animal.
Speaker 1: And it how simple special teams look on the game,
Speaker 1: and how difficult getting a middle linebacker who's a backup
Speaker 1: to be able to swivel his hips and move covering
Speaker 1: a running back or wide receiver at L three running
Speaker 1: full speed, Like that's not a you can't just happenstance
Speaker 1: on doing that. Oh, he's just a special teams player,
Speaker 1: as if special teams is not just as important as
Speaker 1: offensive defense. To your point, all that stuff is important,
Speaker 1: Like you're not just running down on kickoff, just like
Speaker 1: it's all orchestrated, right, there's schemes to it, their schemes
Speaker 1: to kickoff, return their schemes to a way. It's like
Speaker 1: that's always chatman people, he's just a special teams player.
Speaker 1: What what does that mean? And you gotta get a
Speaker 1: special team player who maybe that was not their expertise
Speaker 1: because they were starters in Kyle It and hey, the
Speaker 1: guy that is playing their position is a starter pro
Speaker 1: bowler and they can't beat that man out, and so
Speaker 1: they gotta be on this on this on the field.
Speaker 1: Getting that individual to understand keeping his assignment as a
Speaker 1: backup on defense, but making sure that individual understands the
Speaker 1: gravity of being a contribute on special teams is the
Speaker 1: difference between you making a career or you out here
Speaker 1: looking for another job. You're still getting justice. You may
Speaker 1: not be getting as many snaps as an offensive defensive player,
Speaker 1: but you're still getting snaps. You're still getting playing time,
Speaker 1: you earn your opportunity to be the backup. All right,
Speaker 1: you're ready. So let's let's get down to who is Jennifer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good, all right? All right? So what's what sport
Speaker 1: or sports did you watch as a kid? Uh, the
Speaker 1: big sports for football and basketball. So we were always
Speaker 1: watching college NFL, going to high school games, um for
Speaker 1: all of them. And you know, the NBA finals were
Speaker 1: big for us, watching the playoffs. So football and basketball
Speaker 1: were the biggest things in our household. You know who
Speaker 1: your teams? Oh man, it was tough. You know. I
Speaker 1: like the Hornets because they were close, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously was rooting for the Jordan Bulls too, just because
Speaker 1: you know it's Jordan's But football wise, you know, I
Speaker 1: liked Washington and to the Panthers came and then you know,
Speaker 1: I was in North Carolina, so I jumped over to
Speaker 1: the Panthers. That's a real North Carolina answer, right there.
Speaker 1: Washington fans then then they then they contributed, they slid
Speaker 1: over the game Panthers fans. So where are you from
Speaker 1: in the place you call your hometown? Yeah, I'm for Reesville,
Speaker 1: North Carolina. It's a little small town near Greensboro. Uh
Speaker 1: big for sports. Um our football team in Reesville has
Speaker 1: won like twenty state championships. I went to I went
Speaker 1: to Rockingham County down the street. But back back up,
Speaker 1: back up, back back back back. You can't flex when
Speaker 1: in state in North Carolina? Did you ever play independence?
Speaker 1: They're not in the same classification. Yeah, I went to Rockingham.
Speaker 1: But the reason what, don't run for anybody? So come
Speaker 1: on now, yes she did. They got twenty of things
Speaker 1: Reville in three six a. Oh yeah, they took some
Speaker 1: names for sure, Which which names? Give me? Give me
Speaker 1: somebody that came out of what is this? What is
Speaker 1: it called? Drune Simpson? Drune Simpson. I have no idea
Speaker 1: who that he played for for the Bengals. He's the
Speaker 1: one that did the flip over the guy into the
Speaker 1: end zone. They still play it a lot. He went
Speaker 1: to other than that one highlight? What else did he
Speaker 1: He was in the league for like six years? Yeah,
Speaker 1: six years? He also you know I can go there
Speaker 1: he did, Okay, So who else besides him out of
Speaker 1: those twenties. Yeah, they had a guy named named Brown.
Speaker 1: He went to the Eagles while back. Really good basketball
Speaker 1: players coming out of Reesville. They got one now actually
Speaker 1: this he's ranked in football and basketball. But he's gonna
Speaker 1: go play basketball and see state. What's his name, Brian passed.
Speaker 1: I will look out for him, all right. So growing
Speaker 1: up in your hometown, how did it shape your perspective
Speaker 1: on the way you see life today. It was kind
Speaker 1: of crazy, just because it was such a small place.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I remember as a kid going
Speaker 1: to like the city's like Greensboro, Charlotte or Raleigh, thinking
Speaker 1: I had like saw the world, you know because I
Speaker 1: was from this little town. So they see those things
Speaker 1: at a young age kind of helped me develop now,
Speaker 1: you know, just the experiences that I had. And it
Speaker 1: sucks because there's a lot of people for Reesville that's
Speaker 1: still think that way. You know, they're in that small
Speaker 1: town mentality and you know, going to Myrtle Beach is
Speaker 1: it for them? Exactly? Like if I get up a
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach, I'm getting paid to be there or something's
Speaker 1: going wrong. Man, Myrtle Beach slander is at all about
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach, going to Myrtle But I'm with Jennifer. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're growing up a small town. Once you got to pleasure,
Speaker 1: that was the destination back then, Like all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go to Myrtle Beach and then you actually leave
Speaker 1: and you get a taste of the world. Now, say
Speaker 1: in South Carolina's not the world. You get a taste
Speaker 1: of the world. You're like, what have I been? Nothing?
Speaker 1: We might have lost some sponsorship with you. I don't
Speaker 1: think we've got to get the visit Myrtle Beach, ads,
Speaker 1: and you might wanna take that off the list back stage, Na,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna come through. Oh well right,
Speaker 1: I've been declined in better places. So, Jennifer, where did
Speaker 1: your love for sports come from? Who introduced you to sports?
Speaker 1: It was kind of a collective effort. Man. My whole
Speaker 1: family was in the sports. So I used to watch
Speaker 1: games and my dad, my sister played, my cousins played.
Speaker 1: You know, we were always playing in the backyard and
Speaker 1: football and basketball, so um. It was kind of a
Speaker 1: collective thing. You know. Sports were just always around and
Speaker 1: I was always playing something so um pretty much ever
Speaker 1: since I remember, you know, I've been playing sports and
Speaker 1: it was kind of just be an athlete. What sports
Speaker 1: were you really just like in love with that? You
Speaker 1: just everything you did. It was like if I do this,
Speaker 1: I'll get better in this sport. So you know, just
Speaker 1: growing up as a kid, what sport did you just
Speaker 1: just attach yourself with? Yeah, I mean it was basketball
Speaker 1: and football. Um, you know I played a lot of
Speaker 1: football in the backyard and at school, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I was I wanted to be really good at football.
Speaker 1: I was like wow, like I was just throw my
Speaker 1: body around, just like I see people doing the TV.
Speaker 1: So you know, we didn't play tad. You know, we
Speaker 1: were tackling as little kids. So yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: know basketball of course. Um, you know, my sister played
Speaker 1: my cousin's place. I always wanted to be better than them,
Speaker 1: so I was always trying to get better. And I
Speaker 1: would go to the gym and be there for hours
Speaker 1: and hours. You know, they're trying to get better. We
Speaker 1: have to take a break and the morning anything, we
Speaker 1: gotta pay some bills. You got checked. I love cut
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Speaker 1: subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got
Speaker 1: all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my
Speaker 1: questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother cut
Speaker 1: to a podcast dot com. I think this is a
Speaker 1: unique question because I'm a dad. What's the dynamic when
Speaker 1: you wanted to play and obviously your girl? So we
Speaker 1: I want to highlight that and also talk about to
Speaker 1: some degree talk about the stigma of girls playing guy's sports,
Speaker 1: especially at a young age, because I've used to do
Speaker 1: I used to do football camps when I did play
Speaker 1: and I and I one thing that I always noticed
Speaker 1: that was really cool is you always got two or
Speaker 1: three girls. But these two or three girls were always
Speaker 1: excellent players because they most most young men playing sports,
Speaker 1: they lacked the detail. But that that girls that played
Speaker 1: they always knew that they had to have the fundamentals
Speaker 1: because some girls or just physically not as strong or
Speaker 1: not as fast as the counterparts as the counterparts, And
Speaker 1: so what was the dynamic between mom seeing you play
Speaker 1: football and dad seeing you play football? Yeah? That was
Speaker 1: that was funny because you know, when I got to
Speaker 1: like middle school and even high school, you know, the
Speaker 1: coaches were like, you know, like I think she can
Speaker 1: help us. You know, so I was I was trying.
Speaker 1: I was trying, but you know that was like nah,
Speaker 1: like they printed my parents streamers let me do anything
Speaker 1: else and supported me except for playing football that they
Speaker 1: were worried about, you know, me getting injured. So I
Speaker 1: didn't get to do it. So I still just played
Speaker 1: in like pe and you know, in class. But that
Speaker 1: was it pretty much until I was an adult. So
Speaker 1: did they ever tell you that you that you can't. No,
Speaker 1: they never told me I couldn't. They just didn't sign
Speaker 1: me up for allowing me to do it because you know,
Speaker 1: they were worried about me get injured. So that was
Speaker 1: prettymu sh it. Not that I couldn't do it, It
Speaker 1: was just they were concerned. And I like that big
Speaker 1: because obviously I'm a dad and I played football, and
Speaker 1: you know, I remember I wasn't working on Thursday night
Speaker 1: and I was watching, but I was watching Thursday night
Speaker 1: because I had to take notes and I had a
Speaker 1: show to do the next that following weekend, and because
Speaker 1: of that, I was watching the Thursday night and I
Speaker 1: remember sitting there watching Ryan says he got his injury.
Speaker 1: And I can remember, like yesterday, my wife goes, My wife,
Speaker 1: Angie goes, that's why I won't bamm playing football. And
Speaker 1: I got sold. I was a little bit irritated because
Speaker 1: I had to walk. I paused it and I walked
Speaker 1: Boston through what happened and why it happened. Not the
Speaker 1: sport her natural reaction, which I agree with. It's a
Speaker 1: brutal sport. That's why I wanted to play what as
Speaker 1: a dad, I had to go, No, it's not the
Speaker 1: sport necessarily, it's the participant in that sport that increased
Speaker 1: the chances of his probability of getting hurt. On the
Speaker 1: way he did something, and we went back through it
Speaker 1: and I walked him through it. And from that moment on,
Speaker 1: I had told my son, for you to play this game.
Speaker 1: If you can't see, if you don't see what you hit,
Speaker 1: you don't hit it. And on that particular play, and
Speaker 1: I played against Ryan. He's a hell of a football player,
Speaker 1: but also like anybody else, you can have that centimeter
Speaker 1: of air, put your head down and it can cost
Speaker 1: you something. I broke my neck in college. I put
Speaker 1: my head down. The two people hit me exactly on
Speaker 1: the same shoulders, and I had a C four burst fracture.
Speaker 1: And I was in a neck harness for about seven
Speaker 1: or eight months to the point of where I had
Speaker 1: to lift. When I got out of neck harners, I
Speaker 1: had to lift and improve my support around my shoulders.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a fusion surgery, but I had to
Speaker 1: left every time until a long time. And I never
Speaker 1: told anybody what I'm saying that now is probably for
Speaker 1: the first three or four years of my career. Any
Speaker 1: time I would turn abruptly wright or left, or if
Speaker 1: I didn't lift that week, I would get a stinger
Speaker 1: that would go up my neck. Wow. And I had
Speaker 1: to but I that's all I did. I wouldn't left much,
Speaker 1: but I get them tracks right right, and and and
Speaker 1: and the reason I got injured, here's why I got injured.
Speaker 1: Rob Morris was a linebacker for b y U. We
Speaker 1: had to win that game and go off to the
Speaker 1: Vegas Bowl to play eventually a team led by Freshnel
Speaker 1: State by David Carr, and I was playing proper return
Speaker 1: and Rob Morris was a potential first round draft pick.
Speaker 1: He end up getting drafted, I think UH in the
Speaker 1: first round, fourteenth or something pick. And Rob Morris played
Speaker 1: on special teams and I saw him, so I was
Speaker 1: gonna dip on them. And the same way I played,
Speaker 1: I tried dip on Rob Morrison, the same way I
Speaker 1: tried to beat New Mexico when I played against UH
Speaker 1: Brian Url. I wanted to show this little kid from
Speaker 1: l A complaining the league. It was my It was
Speaker 1: my opportunity to showcase what I could do for scouts
Speaker 1: because I was not getting looked at as much after
Speaker 1: things giving. I was about, you know, in in in college,
Speaker 1: and I remember I tried to dip on them. I
Speaker 1: was on the sideline on our sideline going down and
Speaker 1: in pro vote going down the sideline, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I went to dip on them, dip my head. The
Speaker 1: other guy did not see hit. They both hit both
Speaker 1: shoulders simultaneously bang back in the day. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: my neck is tight. So he took me out for
Speaker 1: a few plays put some big gay on it. Some
Speaker 1: free bio freeze wasn't in yeh, that old man smell
Speaker 1: put that on there. Finished the game. It's called that
Speaker 1: bio that uh, that that bio stuff cream of Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's left the cream of Jesus on. So I go
Speaker 1: on there, man, and we finished the game. And it's
Speaker 1: called the Holy War. In Utah, they always play by
Speaker 1: you and b y U and Utah always play around Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Mom was in town. We won the game. We're going
Speaker 1: to the Vegas Bowl. And I'm a self adjuster self
Speaker 1: just he is somebody to try to adjust. I don't
Speaker 1: go to Kyra practice. I'm Kyra port. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to adjust my neck. Man, I gotta creek is getting
Speaker 1: stiffer and stiffer. We go to the doctor. I go.
Speaker 1: Doctor said, man, my neck is stiff, is getting worse
Speaker 1: and worse. They do an X ray. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: do it routine. Next way. Man, before I get ten
Speaker 1: minutes down down the street, you need to come back.
Speaker 1: You guys, before a birth fracture broke my neck put
Speaker 1: me in the harness, didn't get to play. If you
Speaker 1: go back and see the Vegas Bowl. You'll see me.
Speaker 1: I'm holding up trophy and I was in the neck brace.
Speaker 1: You know, career and in in in question, are you
Speaker 1: saying then that you believe you got injured because you
Speaker 1: had just a slight decrease in the fundamentals. You forgot
Speaker 1: the fundamentals at that point? Is that what you're saying? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I got, I forgot. I didn't not have the fundamentals.
Speaker 1: I knew the fundamentals, but I re I reacted and
Speaker 1: I did I did not see what I I hit,
Speaker 1: and so it that's what happened. And so when you
Speaker 1: have these camps, typically, these these young women that are playing,
Speaker 1: they they don't miss the building on the fundamental. They
Speaker 1: have so much fundamentals they they honed in and every
Speaker 1: I did. I did three or four camps every year
Speaker 1: for eight years. I did them all and not this
Speaker 1: isn't a Bragg. I did them. I had the honor
Speaker 1: of doing them on military brick basis. So I've done
Speaker 1: camps in Hawaii, Frankfurt, Germany, Camp Humphreys in South Korea,
Speaker 1: down to Fort Bragg. And it's still a constant, and
Speaker 1: it does not I don't care where I go. There's
Speaker 1: always three or four girls who who have the fundamentals,
Speaker 1: and I just think that's awesome because yes, they may
Speaker 1: be not all someone more. There's a few girls. I
Speaker 1: remember I was in element Sico and I saw a
Speaker 1: girl named Felicia, just Molly woppa, dude, soar put the
Speaker 1: polls on, put whole eight piece right bucket, coach law too,
Speaker 1: the side with the PHW punch. And I've seen some
Speaker 1: of the you know, some girls who are bigger than guys.
Speaker 1: What the fundamentals? Man, some some young men just they
Speaker 1: athletically gifted, but they lacked the fundamentals. Je, what would
Speaker 1: you adge to that in terms of fundamentals and young
Speaker 1: women in sports? Yeah, I think he's absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look in basketball, you know it's not it's not
Speaker 1: a lot of dunking going on, but the fundies is
Speaker 1: big and women's basketball and just how the game is played.
Speaker 1: So it's it's two different games. But I do think,
Speaker 1: you know, women are really good at the fundamentals of sport.
Speaker 1: What was your playing for college? Oh? Man, it was
Speaker 1: it was kind of crazy because, um, you know, at
Speaker 1: that time, I was playing a bunch of sports in
Speaker 1: high school and um decided to play basketball and hopefully
Speaker 1: softball in college. So and there was it was some
Speaker 1: bigger schools like men majors that wanted me for either,
Speaker 1: but neither wanted me for like both, like basketball didn't
Speaker 1: want me to play softball softball didn't want to play basketball.
Speaker 1: So I end up going to it like a D
Speaker 1: three school both, Right, I had a great visit. Uh
Speaker 1: it's a really good, you know, high academic school. So
Speaker 1: I went there and played both. Good career guilt for college.
Speaker 1: You had the opportunity to play both. So that leads
Speaker 1: me to believe the academic workload and playing two sports,
Speaker 1: how did you manage that? Always been a busy person,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up. Sometimes I would have three different practices,
Speaker 1: like after school for different sports, so I wasn't always
Speaker 1: doing the most so to have that, it wasn't that
Speaker 1: big of a deal for me to play two sports
Speaker 1: in college as an unpaid uber driver myself speak on
Speaker 1: it for the rest of the pea ridunculous and sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even get the thanks. It's
Speaker 1: like brank go here. Yeah, that's exactly how it was. Now,
Speaker 1: Jennifer called out your flax a little bit earlier. Now
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta poor her. Call bullis. She's second
Speaker 1: all time and points scored for Guilford College women's basketball.
Speaker 1: So she had all these practices, but she was still
Speaker 1: put in the work. Oh for sure. I mean I was.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't put in all that work to
Speaker 1: go out there and score, you know, five points a game. Man,
Speaker 1: So I was. I was lucky to always be able
Speaker 1: to score the ball. So um, I had a good
Speaker 1: time at Guilford, was fun while getting her bachelor's sience
Speaker 1: in sports management, and she got her masters from Liberty.
Speaker 1: So she's as athletic as academic, best of both worlds
Speaker 1: to shape, I see it. And yet all of that
Speaker 1: you decided to go. It's a journey. But it's a
Speaker 1: journey that I just mean that is because you have
Speaker 1: all this information. You also coached. I want to go
Speaker 1: down that path you were coaching. Also was a police officer,
Speaker 1: you know, as as they saying, you know, back in
Speaker 1: the old in Living Color, right, she got she's a lawyer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that all the time. Man, My friends are savages.
Speaker 1: So she'll take us through that. You you you end
Speaker 1: up being, you know, playing balling out a guilt for college,
Speaker 1: and then you start coaching the basketball team, you know,
Speaker 1: started coaching the basketball team, and then you coach that
Speaker 1: Greensboro College, you know, Lou Lou cool ten years, ten
Speaker 1: years and also doing what else? Why are your coaching?
Speaker 1: I was, I was a cop man, yeah, on the
Speaker 1: on the south side of Hot Point, to see what
Speaker 1: it was my wife point, So I definitely knowing and
Speaker 1: explains it all because m is about that action. A
Speaker 1: bunch of hot people in hot Point are about that action.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Jennifer could tell us. But when when
Speaker 1: did you start getting the I guess to back all
Speaker 1: of it. When did you know as you were finishing
Speaker 1: your career at UH at Guilford, when did you know
Speaker 1: you want to become a coach? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we started to leave finished college. You gotta do something,
Speaker 1: you know. So I knew I went to be in sport,
Speaker 1: and I had some contacts already, and I one of
Speaker 1: my guys to end up being a mental for me,
Speaker 1: offered me a job at Greensboro. So that's how I
Speaker 1: ended up coaching and got into it. So, um, just
Speaker 1: to stay in sports, you know, keep that that competition,
Speaker 1: you know, as an athlete, you know, when you're done,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to find a way for that to
Speaker 1: find that drive, that rush. So that was the next
Speaker 1: best thing for me. Tell us and walk us through
Speaker 1: some of the things with everything going on, because I
Speaker 1: want you to speak about some of your experiences as
Speaker 1: a police officer also as a woman of color that
Speaker 1: serving the community and what you experienced, because I don't
Speaker 1: know what you experienced. I don't know what it was
Speaker 1: like for you as a police office. So how you
Speaker 1: handle people, what you what you saw, what you didn't see,
Speaker 1: what you can identify with now being out of you know,
Speaker 1: being out of the of the role of being a
Speaker 1: police officer. And I just want to give you that platform,
Speaker 1: that opportunity because I don't know what you experience. Only
Speaker 1: you do. But you also know a lot of things
Speaker 1: about your role that I have no idea about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy working on the on the
Speaker 1: south side of our point, you know, we it was
Speaker 1: a lot going on. Um, you know, heroin was big
Speaker 1: at the time, so we had a bunch of heroin
Speaker 1: problems with overdoses almost every day. Um, you would go
Speaker 1: to and just stuff in general. You know that the
Speaker 1: gangs and the the drug game was crazy, and um,
Speaker 1: I think I definitely now see things from both sides, um,
Speaker 1: because I've been profiled before. But I also you know,
Speaker 1: been a police officer at the same time. So um,
Speaker 1: you know it was it was a good experience for me.
Speaker 1: One thing I'm thankful for. I think our training and
Speaker 1: high Point was as good as it gets, you know,
Speaker 1: like we went above and beyond the required States training,
Speaker 1: which is not much, you know, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people, if they did that or had the
Speaker 1: resources to do that, they could be a lot better
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes I see things happen and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh, man, I can't believe they did that,
Speaker 1: or like we never would they did it that way.
Speaker 1: But you know, everybody's trained differently, so you can't you
Speaker 1: can't really uh you know, look at every situation they're
Speaker 1: saying this because it's different people, um, different training and involved.
Speaker 1: So UM. And I was definitely thankful for our training.
Speaker 1: And you know, you learn a lot of lessons you
Speaker 1: know on those streets, man, stuff you can carry on
Speaker 1: in life, and like you said, you deal with people
Speaker 1: sometimes that they're worse, So it's how to deal with
Speaker 1: different kind of people, and um, you know, we see
Speaker 1: it all and I did a lot, did a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, and how poor it experienced a lot, and
Speaker 1: it's definitely helped me, you know, moving forward and just
Speaker 1: you know in life. So um, definitely thankful for the
Speaker 1: person responders out there. But you know, at the same time,
Speaker 1: some people need to do better, and you know, we
Speaker 1: need some things to change. Is it fair to say?
Speaker 1: And I'm assume me what moonlighting as a basketball coach
Speaker 1: and working full time job as a police officer, I'm imagining.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming and I hope I'm assuming a good way.
Speaker 1: Now when you were coaching these kids that you were
Speaker 1: instilling things in them because you were seeing the difference
Speaker 1: between the right response and the wrong response. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean it literally felt like sometimes I was in
Speaker 1: a double life because you know, say if I was
Speaker 1: working on first year and you know things I would
Speaker 1: do expirits during the daytime, I mean just be insane
Speaker 1: like a movie and then I go to basketball practice
Speaker 1: and you know, it was like a totally different world.
Speaker 1: But definitely trying to you know, instill those values and
Speaker 1: things that I learned, you know, for the kids because
Speaker 1: they were in college, So it was important for them
Speaker 1: to learn some of those lessons. So what was the
Speaker 1: moment when you were both a police officer and you
Speaker 1: were coaching? What was that moment when you knew you
Speaker 1: had to choose? Yeah, that was when I got my
Speaker 1: head coaching job at Johnson Welles and Charlotte. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know when she moved a chair over to the
Speaker 1: head spot. Can't really be doing a bunch of other jobs.
Speaker 1: So when I'm move to Charlotte, that's when I left
Speaker 1: the police force. How do you handle some of the
Speaker 1: labels in coaching? Now? You're female coach in the National
Speaker 1: Football League? Congratulations first Africa, African American. Put that label
Speaker 1: on it, African American time coach? You get you got
Speaker 1: a W two. First of all, do you like the
Speaker 1: label of being the first black female coach? I mean
Speaker 1: that's something that I can't escape because it kind of
Speaker 1: is what it is. So I mean, whether I like
Speaker 1: it or not, just gonna be there. So um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think right now, I don't even think
Speaker 1: that much of it, but something you know, down the road,
Speaker 1: it definitely something to look back on and you know,
Speaker 1: be thankful for and happy for the accomplishment. Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's knocking down barriers. I can truly say as the
Speaker 1: father of an African American woman in a year where
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of first you have
Speaker 1: politics aside, you have the first African American woman to
Speaker 1: be vice president, you have an African woman, African American
Speaker 1: woman who's now the CEO of Walgreen's the first time
Speaker 1: a fortune fifty company, um, and then yourself the first
Speaker 1: African American woman coach in NFL representation matters. My daughter
Speaker 1: looks at TV a lot of times says, oh, Dad,
Speaker 1: she looks like me, and that her being six me
Speaker 1: and being six, that's big for her to see people.
Speaker 1: So I know it made process as if I don't
Speaker 1: know how to feel right now, but you're knocking down
Speaker 1: the barriers to where she doesn't have to worry about
Speaker 1: being the first in certain instances. So it's really big.
Speaker 1: So I do want to say where it proudly because
Speaker 1: as a father being in the house with black you know,
Speaker 1: being married to a black woman, raising a young African
Speaker 1: American woman, it is very big. So thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I appreciate that it's big. It is in congratulations.
Speaker 1: I think it's about that time. Just take a little breather.
Speaker 1: Good good, let's getting down to do good. Hey Gerard,
Speaker 1: why did you get that T shirt? Oh? Yes, I
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Speaker 1: buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. I don't even think of being African American,
Speaker 1: but I just think being a female. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like your you know, coaching temperament is allowed or you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say leash, is your leash longer
Speaker 1: or shorter than anyone else's? You know what? What? How
Speaker 1: does all of that? You know, what do you see
Speaker 1: going on that? You know, obviously every individual experiences differently
Speaker 1: despite race, color, sex. You just depend on where you
Speaker 1: are that that it's either a healthy environment or unhealthy environment. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think, man, everywhere that I've worked has been like
Speaker 1: super cool. Like the coaches I work with have been great.
Speaker 1: The guy that our coach has been great. So I'm
Speaker 1: thankful to the head coaches that I work with because
Speaker 1: I think they kind of built that that culture. You
Speaker 1: know that. Um, this diversity wins type attitude. So I
Speaker 1: was in you know, Arizona and a f for coach
Speaker 1: New High School. Everything was cool there in the Dartmouth
Speaker 1: and with coaching very obviously in Carolina and now in
Speaker 1: d C. It's just been cool. Like I think my temperament,
Speaker 1: I can be myself. I think being authentic is what
Speaker 1: got me here. So there's no need to change, you
Speaker 1: know when I get into that spot. So, um, you
Speaker 1: know the guy worked with Randy Jordan's man. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a ball of energy, funny guy. Um, So I
Speaker 1: think I kind of balanced us out sometime being more
Speaker 1: laid back. Um, that's kind of been my my temperament
Speaker 1: as a coach since I've been coached. You said something
Speaker 1: I was kid. I want to go back to. You said,
Speaker 1: being your authentic self. You get to be yourself. Has
Speaker 1: it just an athlete, remove sex and color? Do you
Speaker 1: feel athletes struggle with being themselves? Yeah? I think sometimes,
Speaker 1: especially at the professional level, just because everything that comes
Speaker 1: with it. You know, sometimes people kind of lose yourselves
Speaker 1: and get lost in this sauce a little bit when
Speaker 1: they start getting the money and the fame and um, so,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's hard sometimes, especially the younger players,
Speaker 1: to keep their identity, you know, when they get to
Speaker 1: the live. Yeah, I've always said money makes you more
Speaker 1: of what you already are. Yeah, if you're a dirt bag,
Speaker 1: if you're a dirt bag before money, before money, just
Speaker 1: a dirt bag with money. Right, if you frugal without money,
Speaker 1: you just a frugal person with money. I mean, it
Speaker 1: just makes you more of what you already are. It
Speaker 1: reveals your true character. The money your bank account doesn't
Speaker 1: change your attitude to who you are. So how do
Speaker 1: you define success? Because you're you're very successful. You you've
Speaker 1: been a police officer, You've had the honor of coaching
Speaker 1: UM women and now coaching men and coaching in the
Speaker 1: sport at the highest level, right at the highest level,
Speaker 1: coaching in the sport. And you didn't go to college
Speaker 1: for you participated in it, you know, for fun. But
Speaker 1: that that, and I say it, that would be like
Speaker 1: me becoming and I'm not very good at basketball, either coaching,
Speaker 1: observing it or playing it. That be me like becoming
Speaker 1: a women's basketball coach at the college. You'd be like, Bro,
Speaker 1: how did that happen? Because I have no idea what
Speaker 1: what it requires to be a women's basketball coach. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just I'm I'm putting myself out there. How
Speaker 1: did that progress? And how was it unfolding for you
Speaker 1: to be a coach of the opposite sex and also
Speaker 1: in a position that you never played professionally or collegiately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't as hard, I think as people
Speaker 1: think because I played for thirteen years like one, that's so,
Speaker 1: but anybody could do this sport dumb that it was
Speaker 1: just I mean, I had had a lot of experience.
Speaker 1: It was not like that, not like that. But I
Speaker 1: had a lot of experience playing and once the national
Speaker 1: Championships playing. Um so even I mean to add on
Speaker 1: to the joke, but I was. I was coaching football
Speaker 1: too while I was coaching basketball and a police officer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was. I mean, I've been doing this a
Speaker 1: long time. It's not something that just happened. So I've
Speaker 1: been coaching football for a really long time. Um and
Speaker 1: obviously just learning and growing and um once I got
Speaker 1: to the professional level of collegiate level, it really just
Speaker 1: took off. And I think the same thing that made
Speaker 1: me successful as a college basketball coach made me successful
Speaker 1: as a football coach as well, and you know, being
Speaker 1: able to communicate and teach and um, those have been
Speaker 1: the big things for me. What do you consider the
Speaker 1: biggest hurdles that you had to climb? One of the
Speaker 1: biggest things for me was just walking away from basketball
Speaker 1: because I was super comfortable. You know, we just win
Speaker 1: a national championship and life was good, and I just
Speaker 1: walked away from it all to go coach football out
Speaker 1: of Arizona. So I kind of went from like the
Speaker 1: top of the tow and pull it to the bottom.
Speaker 1: And uh so just to make that decision, UM, what's difficult,
Speaker 1: but obviously I'm glad I did. How did you mentally
Speaker 1: prepare for the interview process? Um? I think one thing
Speaker 1: Coach Rivera told me when I first started at Carolina
Speaker 1: my first time was always be ready. So um, just
Speaker 1: preparing and to you know, not going out sometimes the
Speaker 1: study stuff and to be prepared. And you know, also
Speaker 1: the interview process I had in college basketball helped as well,
Speaker 1: just to understand the process and how it works. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I think those two things and just being ready and
Speaker 1: preparing myself helped me a lot. So the you know,
Speaker 1: the interview process. So I went pretty smooth for me.
Speaker 1: It was has been something an overblown point of views
Speaker 1: about all of this for you particularly. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, people talk about the
Speaker 1: playing part of it, but I mean, I played for
Speaker 1: thirteen years, you know, so I played quarterback. I've went
Speaker 1: to national championships, I've been I've been in the fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's one of the things I guess people talk about.
Speaker 1: But to be real, I don't really even read a
Speaker 1: lot of comments. That's that's the people tell me. So
Speaker 1: that's another thing. Dale Earnhard Jr. Your boy, he came
Speaker 1: to speak to us when I was in Carolina. That's
Speaker 1: one thing he talked about was just not reading the comments.
Speaker 1: So I haven't read the comment. Do you ever desire
Speaker 1: to be a head coach in the NFL? And I
Speaker 1: think that's a possibility right now. I'm super just locked
Speaker 1: into where I am, you know, kind of being where
Speaker 1: your feet are. Um, So I think that's the best
Speaker 1: way to get to that level is to do the
Speaker 1: best job where you are now. You know, don't start
Speaker 1: looking too far ahead and inspiring, uh, just because you know,
Speaker 1: in the coaching business. You not have a job doing
Speaker 1: that too much. So that's kind of you know where
Speaker 1: I am right now. Our last section it's called the
Speaker 1: Deep three, So it's just a segment that we do
Speaker 1: to go beyond the jersey, go beyond the playing career,
Speaker 1: and just really understand you as an individual. So it's
Speaker 1: just three deeper level questions. It's give her the first one.
Speaker 1: How do you stay true to yourself on and off
Speaker 1: the field. I think that's easy for me, you know,
Speaker 1: like I talked about earlier, that's being authentic. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a family that keeps me grounded, you know,
Speaker 1: from those families that will roast you at any time.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter what my success is still because
Speaker 1: they don't care, you know. And but that's cool, you know,
Speaker 1: it keeps you ground and I think, you know, those
Speaker 1: are one of the big reasons why I just kind
Speaker 1: of stay authentic to myself. What do you hope your
Speaker 1: role is in shaping the future generation of women? Well,
Speaker 1: that's a good question like that, Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think the current position, like you talked about the representation.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a representation of something that I didn't have,
Speaker 1: and I think, um, that's important for me now to
Speaker 1: really kind of carry that sorch, you know, just to
Speaker 1: show people what they can do and what they're capable of.
Speaker 1: What do you want people to remember about Jennifer King
Speaker 1: when it's all setting down, Uh, just remembering I was
Speaker 1: a great coach. You know. It doesn't necessarily have to
Speaker 1: be that I was the female coach or anything. Just
Speaker 1: I was a great coach. I was successful, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and I would love to win the Super Bowl? Would
Speaker 1: you ever want to coach football? You didn't let me
Speaker 1: finish the question. Too many hours and not enough pay
Speaker 1: and what I mean, by the day, those coaches, those
Speaker 1: position coaches put in a lot of time. And also
Speaker 1: see and being a former player, why do you need
Speaker 1: to be sitting in the office till one or two
Speaker 1: in the morning. If we've all heard that story, nothing
Speaker 1: good ever happens after midnight. So how are you going?
Speaker 1: How the hell you gonna coach after midnight? Whatever you
Speaker 1: are trying to get done, at some point you hit
Speaker 1: a wall. You only can watch so much film. And
Speaker 1: I think I think that coaches sometimes believe the more
Speaker 1: work you put in, the more efficient. That's not the truth.
Speaker 1: I played some of those plays that you've drawn up,
Speaker 1: either at midnight or in the regular day have not worked.
Speaker 1: So here's the question I have. So is it the
Speaker 1: City Chiefs work late or early? Because either way was
Speaker 1: it good? Poor products? Piss poor product? Oh? Man? So
Speaker 1: is it the Is it the demands of the job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the demands of the job being around football. But then
Speaker 1: also too, um Man ball has just changed a line. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to put in that much time.
Speaker 1: I put in a lot of time to prepare for shows.
Speaker 1: Now you add I know what I do in TV,
Speaker 1: and that scale back tremendously. I can't imagine there's in
Speaker 1: TVs there in the off season, there's guys are guys
Speaker 1: are looking at draft picks right now. I you're looking
Speaker 1: at film right now to go into the season. They're
Speaker 1: looking at what what about this? Their opponents? They gotta
Speaker 1: look at the opponents they're playing in right They know
Speaker 1: that they're playing no matter who they think they're playing
Speaker 1: outside of their division, they know they're playing, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about the Carolina Panthers, talking about the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 1: talking about the censors score for the Niners. They're playing
Speaker 1: what the other three teams twice, so they're getting ready
Speaker 1: for that game plan. Who's on the roster, who's not there,
Speaker 1: who's becoming a free agent, who's the draft picks, who's
Speaker 1: who's eligible man? And then you got your team who
Speaker 1: were not keeping? Who are we keeping? No, I'm good.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say they want to coach because
Speaker 1: they want to get back to the game. So you
Speaker 1: got other ways you want to get back that game
Speaker 1: taken for it, I'm not giving back. No, you are
Speaker 1: a unique person. You are well worth it, you are competent,
Speaker 1: and most of all, you're lovable. I'm Steve Smith Senior,
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Speaker 1: manager Sarah Pollock. Theme music by Alex Johnson, lyrics and
Speaker 1: vocals by Anthony Hamilton. You ain't heard about it, then,
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