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Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another NFL Fantasy Flex episode,

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Speaker 2: the award winning Action Network podcast presented by bet MGM,

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Speaker 2: the official odds provider of the show. I'm Matthew Friedman

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Speaker 2: and the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, and here

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Speaker 2: with me are Sean Corner and Chris Raymond. Sean is

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Speaker 2: the Action Network director of Projective Analytics, and Chris is

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Speaker 2: a senior editor and analysts at the Action Network. There

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Speaker 2: too of the best fantasy football rankers in the world.

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Speaker 2: This episode, we're highlighting the players at the top of

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Speaker 2: our week thirteen rankings and the Fantasy tool at Action Network.

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Speaker 2: We are discussing the guys who are high and low

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Speaker 2: on and looking at how they do in our Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Labs models, and we are speculating on some player props. Fellows.

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Speaker 2: It is the week after Thanksgiving. We are officially in

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Speaker 2: the home stretch. Sean, how was your holiday?

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Speaker 4: It was good, pretty chill. I kind of wish we

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty took that away from us, of course, but

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I wouldn't say it took it away from us.

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Speaker 2: It just infinitely postponed it. So you know, we still

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Speaker 2: have that to look forward to. As we're recording this,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday night. But you know, who knows, your guest is

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Speaker 2: probably better than mine. Rayvon, how was your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 5: It's pretty good, pretty chill, you know, continuing to have

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Speaker 2: I didn't abstain from pie, but I limited my pie intake.

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Speaker 2: So I view that as a massive victory. You know.

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Speaker 2: As weird as last week was with all the news,

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Speaker 2: for some reason, everything seemed to line up for me,

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Speaker 2: Like I felt like a chess player who was seeing

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Speaker 2: the board really well, Like I crushed props. Every week,

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Speaker 2: the three of us put our favorite player props in

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Speaker 2: the Action Network app. Sean, I know you did especially

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Speaker 2: well on props last weekend. Also, just betting, I made

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Speaker 2: literally the biggest sports bet of my life on Saints

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Speaker 2: is fourteen point favorites against the quarterback list Broncos, which Sean,

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Speaker 2: I think you referred to that as just pure gambling,

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Speaker 2: the news, I didn't even bother trying to make a

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Speaker 2: That lineup came together on the first try. It took

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Speaker 2: last week, I was on Deshaun Watson versus the Lions

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Speaker 2: that crushed. I was off Carson Wentz despite the good

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Speaker 2: I was off of Alvin Kamara and Raybon. We are

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Speaker 2: definitely going to talk about Kamara and his receiving usage. Later,

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Speaker 2: So overall, pretty much the best week I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Basically just fade everything. I say, guys, let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: The three quarterbacks at the top of our week thirteen rankings,

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Speaker 2: pretty Consensucy Raybawn, I let Sean go first last week,

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Speaker 2: So this week I'm going to kick it to you.

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Speaker 2: Who are you relatively high on at the quarterback position

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Speaker 5: So looking at the pricing on DraftKings, I think anytime

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Speaker 2: Sean, who are you on this week?

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Speaker 4: I like Aaron Rodgers at his price point. He's sixty

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Speaker 4: So Trubisky's GPP only played for me this week.

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Speaker 2: At home going against Jacksonville, the Jags have allowed the

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Speaker 2: who are you low on?

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Speaker 5: I think we have to be a little bit careful

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray at seventy six hundred, you're never going to

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Speaker 5: It's probably probably something to do with with that shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Sean, I have a feeling that you might have just

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Speaker 2: gotten sniped there. I definitely got sniped. Murray was the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys sniped Kyler Murray from me. I think

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Speaker 4: kind of have to stay away from him, especially at

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Speaker 4: I'm just downgrading him a tad after his dreadful performance

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Speaker 4: He's pretty solidly in the mid QB one range right now.

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Speaker 4: He's more like the Josh Allen we remember from last

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Speaker 4: The next couple weeks, he has a tougher matchup against

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Speaker 4: You got to start him, obviously, but hopefully he'll be

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Speaker 2: All right, one guy we haven't mentioned Taysom Hill, and

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Speaker 2: I am imagining, Sean that maybe the quarterback prop for

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Speaker 2: the Fantasy Labs prop tool, where the props with the

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Speaker 4: Taking a break from Saints props this week. So it's

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Speaker 2: This is one of the rare instances in which I

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the running backs who are at

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Speaker 2: Austin Eckler looked great in his return to Action last week.

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Speaker 4: For me?

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Speaker 5: I think it's still James Robinson, you know, at fifth

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Speaker 5: highest priced running back on DraftKings at seventy three hundred,

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Speaker 4: Well, this might be the most excited I've ever been

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Speaker 4: And the other guy is Nikeim Hines. He's fifty three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one guy that I am high on, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson, And this is not a good spot form.

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Speaker 2: For this week, Raybawn, who are you low on?

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Speaker 5: So this is going to depend on whether Jacobs suits up,

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Speaker 5: And if Jacobs plays, you know, he's way over priced

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Speaker 2: Sean, who are you fading so well?

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Speaker 4: I agree with pretty much everything you said about Antonio Gibson.

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Speaker 4: I think everything's happening at once. But he has his

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Speaker 2: Now, I, Sean, and I get it. It's it's prudent.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm way too high on him, and a lot

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Speaker 4: to set the line at forty six and a half

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Speaker 4: for senior yards.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question? Yeah, how much did

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Speaker 2: you inflate it by relative to your projection?

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Speaker 4: Just a few yards?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will still go over. I will be the

438
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Speaker 2: Echler optimist here, and I will I will go over.

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Speaker 2: I think he's basically Christian McCaffrey light. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say that you just like automatically

441
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Speaker 2: project him for like an eighteen percent target here or

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Speaker 2: something like that, But he has that well within his

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Speaker 2: range of outcomes. So I will take the over here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going over as well.

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Speaker 5: It's not only that he has that you know, five

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Speaker 5: plus catch potential, but just throughout his career he's actually

447
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Speaker 5: been one of the most efficient running backs in terms

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Speaker 5: of yards per reception. So in my model, I think

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Speaker 5: he actually may be the running back with the highest

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Speaker 5: yards per reception, which is a very it's not a

451
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Speaker 5: stat that it regresses to the mean a lot, So

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Speaker 5: that's actually saying a lot for a running back to

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Speaker 5: kind of separate himself from that. So he doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 5: even need, you know, to hit catch expectations because he's

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Speaker 5: very good at making big plays on those catches.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, going over, Yeah, Raymon, you're you're right there.

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Speaker 2: Year in and year out, he's one of the most

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Speaker 2: efficient running backs in the league at turning targets into yards.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's a big part of it. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't really even need all that many targets, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I still think he's going to get targets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say he's actually the second highest

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Speaker 4: in terms of yards per catching my model, Alvin Kamara

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Speaker 4: is the top. But Kamara needs catches to get that,

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Speaker 4: you know, So.

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Speaker 5: I hear, I hear I hear Kamara does need catches.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs to catch the ball for that to matter.

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Speaker 2: Sean, glad you brought that up. Was very fortuitous. That

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Speaker 2: reminds me that I forgot to say that I'm down

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Speaker 2: on Alvin Kamara once again this week, big surprise. I

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Speaker 2: still think that he's in RB one. If you have him,

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Speaker 2: you still play him. But we have a situation now.

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Speaker 2: And granted, you know, the first game with Taysom Hill

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Speaker 2: was Tasom Hill's first NFL start, so maybe that's not representative.

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Speaker 2: And reportedly, the Saints last week did change their offensive

476
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Speaker 2: game plan once they knew that they were going to

477
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Speaker 2: be going against a practice squad, practice squad wide receiver

478
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Speaker 2: playing the quarterback position. So honestly, maybe the two games

479
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Speaker 2: that we've seen out of Taysom Hill, maybe those aren't representative.

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Speaker 2: And I would expect that we see this week more

481
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Speaker 2: than you know, one and a half targets going to

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Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara. But you know that said in two games,

483
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Speaker 2: he has three targets which he is leveraged into negative

484
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Speaker 2: two yards receiving. So not a great look for the

485
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Speaker 2: Taysom Hill offense. Uh, in terms of what it means

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Speaker 2: for Alvin Kamara because if he's not getting his targets,

487
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Speaker 2: then his floor is significantly weakened. So again, if you

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Speaker 2: have him, you still start him. I think you still

489
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Speaker 2: have to rank him as if he's an RB one,

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Speaker 2: but you just have to, you know, be aware that

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Speaker 2: there is significant downside with him. Raymond. I know last

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Speaker 2: week we had a pretty lively conversation on Kamara and

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Speaker 2: his receiving workload. What are your thoughts now that we've

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Speaker 2: seen two games out of Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 5: So the issue coming into last week was that if

496
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Speaker 5: you looked at his routes, run him and which Tavias

497
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Speaker 5: split them in that first match up against the Falcons

498
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Speaker 5: thirty seven percent each. So my whole thought was, Okay,

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Speaker 5: he's going to rebound in that area Taysom Hill threw

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Speaker 5: I think it was twenty three passes in that first matchup,

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Speaker 5: which is down obviously from from breeze. But you figure, okay,

502
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Speaker 5: he's gonna rebound, and he actually did. He put he

503
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Speaker 5: ran sixty four percent around on sixty four percent of

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Speaker 5: the dropbacks compared to thirty six for Murray, which is

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Speaker 5: more or so in line with Kamara's usage. Murray's playing

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Speaker 5: a little bit more period. But the problem is Taysom

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Speaker 5: Hill the volume is so far down that you are

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Speaker 5: going to now reduce hit Kamara's receiving usage, not based

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Speaker 5: on the routes, you know, percentage wise, but just based

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Speaker 5: on the fact that you're not expecting Taysom Hill to

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Speaker 5: throw as many passes.

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, I have Camara in that three three and a.

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Speaker 5: Half catch range now, which is significantly down, and that's

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Speaker 5: based on the Saints just not throwing the ball as much.

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Speaker 6: So I think it.

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Speaker 5: I think the game plans will essentially even out. That

517
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Speaker 5: was encouraging last week. But the bottom line is if

518
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Speaker 5: Taysom Hills throwing the ball, you know, anywhere from fifteen

519
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Speaker 5: to twenty five times a game, and Drew Brees was

520
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Speaker 5: throwing it, you know, anywhere from like thirty to forty,

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Speaker 5: then there's going.

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Speaker 6: To be a dip.

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Speaker 2: So, Raymond, you said around three three and a half

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Speaker 2: receptions is what you're thinking for Kamara, And granted it's

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Speaker 2: early in the week, so that could change. Sean, does

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Speaker 2: that kind of fall in line with what you are

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Speaker 2: roughly thinking right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't projected, you know, right around three catches,

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Speaker 4: you know, last week, we have to throw the entire

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Speaker 4: game out on both sides. We can't really evaluate that

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Speaker 4: game because you know, Satsin have to do much. You

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Speaker 4: call that one Friedman by the way. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: just think with Kamara it doesn't He doesn't as much

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Speaker 4: with Taysom Hill. You know, I mentioned last week that

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Speaker 4: Tasom Hill is probably more likely to pull it down

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Speaker 4: and run then dump it off to Kamara. And we

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Speaker 4: haven't even seen the design screens to Kamara that I

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Speaker 4: thought we'd see. So if it's based on just improvisation,

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Speaker 4: I don't think Kamara's gonna see much work. And it

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Speaker 4: does make sense to just you know, pound Latavious up

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Speaker 4: the middle when defenses have to worry about Taysom, you know,

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Speaker 4: scrambling on the edges. You know, Lettavious Murray and Taysom

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Speaker 4: Hill is a pretty dynamic como. And I'm just worried

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Speaker 4: about Kamara's rushing upside as well. So yeah, I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: low on Kamara in both in terms of rushing and

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Speaker 4: receiving production.

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Speaker 2: And now back to the show. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about the wide receivers that we have at the top

567
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Speaker 2: of our rankings. Tyreek Hill, DeVante Adams, Stefan Diggs. You

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Speaker 2: can maybe make some arguments for some other guys who

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Speaker 2: could be in the top three, Keenan Allen, DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. All of those guys are in the top

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Speaker 2: six for us. So they're knocking on the door. Ravon,

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Speaker 2: who are you high on this week?

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Speaker 6: Going with Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 5: You look at the Houston Texans and I mean, they

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Speaker 5: got they're essentially down two wide receivers, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I know it's a tough defense in Indianapolis, but somebody's

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Speaker 5: got to catch.

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Speaker 6: The ball, and you know, for for Houston.

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Speaker 5: So I'm going with Brandon Cooks here just because I

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Speaker 5: think Deshaun Watson he can make plays kind of improv

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Speaker 5: improvisational wise. And you look at Indianapolis and these last

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Speaker 5: couple of weeks and you know, they've gone against some

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Speaker 5: you know, explosive number one receivers Dvante Adams and A. J.

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Speaker 6: Brown, and those guys have put up numbers.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's part to do with, you know,

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Speaker 5: just kind of the scheme in the quarterbacks and part

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Speaker 5: to do with those wide receiver skills. But Brandon Cooks

588
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: just has a potential for such a huge target share

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Speaker 5: that I'm willing to save the matchup here, especially you know,

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Speaker 5: he's fifty six hundred, which is usually kind of that

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Speaker 5: wide receiver two three pricing anyway, so you're potentially getting

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Speaker 5: you know, that number one wide receiver production at a

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Speaker 5: discount of cost.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Sean, who are you high on this week?

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty high on Denzel Mims. He's still way too

596
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: cheap at forty one hundred. Last week, I'm still hitting myself.

597
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: I shied away, even though liking I think he was

598
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Speaker 4: like thirty five hundred or something ridiculous. I shied away

599
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Speaker 4: just due to the tough matchup, but he was still

600
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Speaker 4: able to post a pretty solid four catch sixty seven

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Speaker 4: yard game against the Dolphins. Has a great matchup this

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Speaker 4: week against Vegas. Obviously, you know Crowder and Perryman cap

603
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Speaker 4: his four ceiling a bit, but you know he has

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Speaker 4: legit wide receiver two to three potential if one of

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Speaker 4: them were to ever go down. But you know, in

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Speaker 4: the meantime, I still think he's way too cheap, even

607
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Speaker 4: with the crowded receiving room at forty one hundred. With

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Speaker 4: this matchup, he's way too talented to keep under wraps

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Speaker 4: for much longer. And then the other is pretty obvious

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Speaker 4: play in my opinion is Robert Woods at fifty nine

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Speaker 4: hundred against the Cardinals. I mean, this isn't rocket science.

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Speaker 4: Here's you know, he's coming off a fourteen and eleven

613
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Speaker 4: target game stretch. His four ceiling combos is way too

614
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Speaker 4: high for this price. He had a massive thirteen catch,

615
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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy tier game against Arizona last year.

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Speaker 4: It just seems way too cheap at this price.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, As you mentioned, in the two games last

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Speaker 2: year against Arizona, he did really well, and one of

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Speaker 2: those really was specifically shadowed by Patrick Peterson, and that

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Speaker 2: wasn't much of a hindrance. So I expect that he

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Speaker 2: will be shadowed again. Peterson has been shadowing for much

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Speaker 2: of the past five games, so he probably will run

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Speaker 2: a lot of routes against Peterson, but I honestly don't

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Speaker 2: know how much that's going to matter. And also to

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Speaker 2: your point about Denzel Mims, I think his matchup might

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Speaker 2: be even a little bit better than we would normally

627
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Speaker 2: get going against the Vegas Raiders because Damon Arnett, one

628
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: of their starting quarterbacks, has a concussion and so if

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Speaker 2: he's out, that means he's going to be running routes

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Speaker 2: against Backupaiah Johnson, who's a fourth round second year backup,

631
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Speaker 2: has one hundred and nineteen NFL coverage snaps in his

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Speaker 2: career and a thirty eight point seven PFF coverage grade

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Speaker 2: this year. Like, that's a very winnable matchup. Even though

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Speaker 2: Memes is a rookie, I think Mims would have a

635
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Speaker 2: pretty clear edge there, So I definitely like both of

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Speaker 2: those calls. A guy I am really high on, as

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Speaker 2: justin Jefferson. In this dovetails with the Kirk Cousins call.

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Speaker 2: The Jags are without four of their top five cornerbacks.

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Speaker 2: Maybe some of those guys will return, so definitely keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on that. But even when those guys are

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Speaker 2: out there, the Jags are still not good against the pass.

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Speaker 2: And if Adam Thielen is out once again, of course

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Speaker 2: also have to keep an eye on that. But assuming

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Speaker 2: thelan is out, I mean, Jefferson should once again be

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Speaker 2: targeted very heavily. He had thirteen targets last week without

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Speaker 2: Delan two touchdowns. Normally it's Stealen getting the touchdowns, but

647
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: in his absence, Jefferson is just getting everything and since

648
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: moving from the slot to the perimeter in Week three,

649
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: Jefferson trails only Tyreek Hill with eight hundred and forty

650
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: eight yards receiving. I mean on the perimeter. He really

651
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: has been one of the best wide receivers in the league.

652
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: He's not getting all of the touchdowns, but he's getting

653
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: the yards and with feeling out, the touchdowns could really

654
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: be there. So Jefferson is someone I really like. With

655
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: this matchup, Raybond, who are you low on.

656
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 6: Jandrea Hopkins. You look at the matchup.

657
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: They're going against the Rams who have the cornerbacks, and

658
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 5: it's the defensive scheme to limit him, and then his

659
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 5: quarterback has been a little bit iffy, and that's just

660
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 5: a bad combination. And then you start looking back through

661
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 5: his game logs and the big games, you know recently

662
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: Detroit that's a pretty bad defense. One hundred and thirty

663
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 5: seven yards, the Jets one hundred and thirty one yards,

664
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 5: another bad defense. Seattle in week seven, one hundred and

665
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 5: three yards. That's a bad defense. And then Buffalo he

666
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 5: had one hundred and twenty seven but remember he needed

667
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 5: that Hail Mary to get there. He would have had

668
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: a pretty, you know, kind of pedestrian line in that

669
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 5: game as well.

670
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 6: And then the other games.

671
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: You have New England fifty five yards on five catches

672
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 5: the week before that, Seattle the second time fifty one

673
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 5: yards on five catches, and then against Miami the game

674
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 5: before the Buffalo game three catches, thirty yards.

675
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 6: So he's kind of.

676
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 5: Been trending down and or you know, taking advantage of

677
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 5: great matchups. This is neither and his quarterback again is

678
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 5: just not quite right. So I don't think DeAndre Hopkins

679
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 5: is quite worth you know that that top tier wide

680
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: receiver price in cash games and deserves to be in

681
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: the same tier with Devonte and Metcalf and keenan Al.

682
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 6: And I think he's bre in, you know, kind of

683
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 6: going down.

684
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 5: He should probably be in the in the sixties six

685
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 5: six thousands this week, but he's seven eight, one hundred.

686
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: That's too high, Raybon, It's almost as if you are

687
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: looking at the outline, which honestly, I know, I know

688
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, but I mean Hopkins, he's the guy that

689
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: I have there too, and and you touched on everything.

690
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: I'll add one thing here. The tough matchup against Jalen

691
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: Ramsey is not as if he's going against just the

692
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: best cornerback in the league. He's going against the best

693
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: cornerback in the league who has shadowed him like every

694
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: year for the past four years, so like Ramsey knows

695
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: him like they have battled, you know, for years since

696
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: their days in the AFC South, and most of the

697
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 2: time Ramsey has gotten the better of him. A couple

698
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: of times Hopkins has gone off, but most of the

699
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: time Ramsey has been able to hold Hopkins in that

700
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: fifty ish yard range, and I think, once again, that

701
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: is probably where we're going to see Hopkins like, knowing

702
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: that he does have the ability to pop off for

703
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: big game, but it's more likely than not that Ramsey

704
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: does a pretty good job of bottling him up. So

705
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm entirely with you there, Ivu Hopkins as more of

706
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: a wide receiver two with upside than a wide receiver one. Sean,

707
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: who are you low on?

708
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: Well this this guy kind of depends who starts at

709
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: quarterback for the Dolphins this week, but I'm lower on

710
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: DeVante Parker, especially if Tuas suits up. I think it's

711
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: pretty clear by now that when TUIs starts, Parker you

712
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: know sees a pretty significant drop off, and when Fitzmagic

713
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 4: is in there, you know, I give him a huge boost.

714
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: But either way, you know that the Dolphins should be

715
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: able to beat the Bengals this week with a pretty

716
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: run heavy game plan. They're favored by I think twelve

717
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: points right now, and all their running backs might actually

718
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: be healthy this week, so I think it's it's a

719
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: great week for them to just have a more run

720
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: heavy approach. And again, if Tuas starts, I think I'm

721
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: clearly fading him here. And then the other guy is

722
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, who you know I've been treating as just

723
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 4: an auto plan DFS. I've been projecting him close to

724
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: eight receptions these past few games, but I think with

725
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 4: Austin Eckler back, it does cut into his target share

726
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: enough to lower him down to maybe wide receiver, you know,

727
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: eight this week, which is enough for me to at

728
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 4: least have some pause at eighty one hundred, And you

729
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: know Herbert attempted fifty one passes last week. They usually

730
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: have massive volume. I think on the other side of

731
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: the ball, you have the Patriots playing this run heavy

732
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 4: offense that might kill the clock a bit and lower

733
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: their overall volumes. So you know, Keyan Allen's the type

734
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 4: of player where just a slight decrease in his volume

735
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: is going to send him down my rankings quite a bit.

736
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: So I'm a bit lower on Allen this week.

737
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean, I'm with you there. Now the prop for

738
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, who do we have?

739
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: I mean, how the hell can we even project Harry

740
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: Hill at this point? It's almost impossible to set a

741
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: line for him. So I'm just gonna throw it out there,

742
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: ninety one and a half receiving yards.

743
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: I will amazingly take the under. I have it closer

744
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: to let's see eighty four and a half, which feels low. Instinctively,

745
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: I want to take the over here, but yeah, I

746
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: go under Wall.

747
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 5: You said you had ninety one and a half shot, Yeah,

748
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 5: ninety one and a half.

749
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: Wow.

750
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're looking at all of our

751
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: rankings and like making a very intelligent life.

752
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: Actually, so you're over.

753
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: I actually haven't thought of that. I could actually look

754
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: at your guys projections. No, I'm too honest to do that.

755
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: I didn't peak.

756
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: This is Tyreek kale like this is, you know, at

757
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 5: the beginning of the season, like this is the one

758
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 5: and the ones you know, obviously got a lot wrong,

759
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: got a lot right, But This is what I was

760
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: kind of screaming about, is like everyone was kind of

761
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 5: down on Tyreek Should we draft them in the same

762
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 5: tier as these other top wide receivers, I mean the.

763
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 6: Quarterback form and Patrick Mahomes.

764
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 5: And you look at the matchup in which he essentially

765
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 5: put up the most fantasy points was that since Jamal Charles,

766
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 5: I think it was for any player, and it's against

767
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 5: one of the top defenses in the in the NFL,

768
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 5: Like this is the type of talent that Tyreek Hill has.

769
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 5: It's like when they see a good defense that can

770
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: stop the run or that can you know, plays well

771
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: against the pass, they just target Tyreek Hill more and

772
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: they go more past heavy. So this Denver defense another

773
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: really good one, but there's no cornerback in this league

774
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 5: at this.

775
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: Point that really can guard Tyreek Hill.

776
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you think about it, his floor is

777
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 4: super high right now, which is really scary to think.

778
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: I would say Week six was the only bad game

779
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: really other than that, He's either had over seventy five

780
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: yards or a touch on every single game. So that's

781
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: just scary to think that a guy with you know,

782
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: overall obviously wide receiver one overall upside every week and

783
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: still you know, he has this high floor. Yeah, it's

784
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: it's insane, you.

785
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Know, looking at this more. I I'm gonna need to

786
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: adjust this up because I'm thinking about Rayvon you mentioned. Yeah,

787
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 2: the Broncos really don't have a cornerback who can stick

788
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: with him, and I think that's especially the case now

789
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: because Bryce Callahan, I think is dealing with a foot injury,

790
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: and he would match up much better with Tyreek than

791
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: AJ Boye, who just doesn't doesn't have the speed, you know,

792
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: and we saw that with Carlton Davis last week. The

793
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: guys who match up better with the bigger, bodied wide receivers,

794
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: those physical press cornerbacks, they cannot handle Tyreek Hill because

795
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: he can just get by them. And so we might

796
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: have another situation like that once again this week. So yeah,

797
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: I will I will probably be adjusting this up. But yeah,

798
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, I mean, what to say here?

799
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: I thought the prop was going to be first quarter

800
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: yards for Tyreek Jay.

801
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought you guys were going to jump on

802
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 4: the over and say, yeah, I'll have that by the

803
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: first quarter.

804
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's look at the tight ends that we

805
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: have in the Action Network rankings. Number one Travis Kelcey,

806
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: number two, Darren Waller and then number three and obviously

807
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: a significant drop off between number two and number three

808
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: Hunter Henry. And you know, I feel like I say

809
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: this every week you can make a case for maybe

810
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, like five different guys in that number three spot. Raymond,

811
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: who are you high on this week?

812
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: It's really ugly weekend and week out. I think you

813
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: look at TJ. Hockinson again. I mean, you know, in

814
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 5: Detroit there's there's not a lot of good things going on,

815
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 5: but Hockinson's been putting up big numbers, and the Bears

816
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: are a defense that a little bit of a of

817
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 5: a tight end funnel. We saw Tanyan get the big

818
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: play against them last week. That's kind of been the

819
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 5: norm for them. They've been really stout against receivers and

820
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: tight end has been one of the positions where they

821
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: just give up a little more volume than usual. So,

822
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 5: I mean, there's really just not many players to trust,

823
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 5: you know. I think, you know, you look at Evan

824
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 5: Ingram and you know he's coming off with a big game,

825
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 5: but and you look at who's going to be at

826
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: quarterback for the Giants, and the fact that you know

827
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: Seattle getting better on defense. It's kind of iffy. So

828
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 5: I'm tempted to say Ingram, but I'm gonna go with

829
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: the TJ.

830
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: Hofkinson.

831
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Ravon, I am going to indulge your

832
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: temptation and I'm going with Evan Ingram. And I do

833
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: have him raked number three, and I don't feel great

834
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: about it. But it's I mean, as you say, it's

835
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: a really nasty position that we have here. No Daniel Jones.

836
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: You know, maybe that's actually a good thing. Maybe Colt

837
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: McCoy actually might be a better professional passer than Daniel Jones,

838
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: Like not outside the realm of possibility. Since week seven,

839
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 2: we have Evan Ingram with eight point two targets per game,

840
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: and that volume is almost impossible to find at tight end.

841
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: And so that for me, like more than the possibility

842
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: of maybe Colt McCoy is better than Daniel Jones. The

843
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: volume for me is really what what puts Evan Ingram

844
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: number three on the board. And uh, although he's going

845
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: against the Seahawks to have Jamal Adams and Quandary Diggs

846
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: at safety, they still haven't really been all that good

847
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: against tight ends. It's it's pretty much an average matchup,

848
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: So as long as he maintains that volume, I feel

849
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: as decent as anyone can. With Evan Ingram at number three, I.

850
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 5: Mean to be fair, if you talk about poor professional

851
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: passers cars, none is more poor than Carson Wentz this

852
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 5: year and seemed like the only guy that he could

853
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: connect with with Richard Rodgers.

854
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 6: And h Goddard on Monday night games. So yeah, you're

855
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 6: honest out there.

856
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: Uh Sean, who are you high on?

857
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: Well? I agree with you, guys, that tight ends a

858
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 4: crapshoot this week. I mean no Kelsey, no George kill obviously,

859
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: no Mark Andrews, and Waller's priced appropriately, So why not

860
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: double down on Jordan Akins this week at the same

861
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: price said he was on Thanksgiving twenty one hundred. I mean,

862
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 4: he just missed on two touchdowns. And Deshaun Watson even

863
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: addressed this in his post game interview, saying he's going

864
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: to make up for him this week. So I'm going

865
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: to take him out his word. I'm gonna double down

866
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: in Akins here, and you know, like they're gonna be

867
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: with that Will Fuller, no Randall Cobb, no Kidney Stills.

868
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: So they're going to have to continue to target Aikins,

869
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: I think just way too just way too cheap. Given

870
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: the tight end position this week, it's hard to pass

871
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: him up.

872
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking before the show about where are

873
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: all of these targets, these routes going to go? And

874
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 2: you feel like, I mean, since they play so many

875
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: tighten sets anyway, that it would be natural for some

876
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: of that to flow towards Aikins. And so yeah, it's

877
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 2: you know, if you make even slight adjustments, you can

878
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: juice Aikins projections pretty significantly, So there's there's upside there.

879
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could see the classic Kiki QT ten catches

880
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: for thirty we are type game here too, so I'm

881
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: looking forward to that. But yeah, it's it's pretty tricky

882
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: projecting the Texans this.

883
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: Week, Raymond, who are you low on?

884
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 6: Everyone? I feel.

885
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 5: If I had to pick someone in particular, I would

886
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: look at Dallas Godart because I think coming off this

887
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 5: game against Seattle, his value is going to kind of

888
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: be at an all time high.

889
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 6: We don't know if it is going to be back yet.

890
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: I think he started practicing, but Green Bay has been

891
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: one of the better teams against the tight end position,

892
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: and Richard Rogers still mixing in there a little more

893
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 5: than you like. But also I think, you know, Carson

894
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 5: Wentz has just been so unreliable that if anything kind

895
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 5: of goes wrong, I mean even in this in this

896
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 5: last game, I mean, I think got It caught what

897
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: was it a fourth down touchdown pass and like it.

898
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 5: You know, things could go really bad for got Her,

899
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: and he's running a lot of routes and it's kind

900
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 5: of tempting to put him up there. But I think

901
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 5: based on Carson Wentz's unreliability, like, I'm kind of downgrading

902
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 5: all of the Philly Path catchers just a little. And

903
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: then every time you see him play, it looks a

904
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 5: little more like they may go to Jay and Hurts

905
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 5: for more than just one or two plays, which I

906
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 5: don't necessarily think helps any anyone in Philadelphia. So just

907
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: just a bad spot Bowing and Lambeau. I think I

908
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 5: think they could get smashed this week.

909
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: Talking about Jalen Hurts just a second, Sean, do you

910
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: think this is the Jalen Hurts game? Like, do you

911
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: think this is the game that he actually gets sustained

912
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: snaps at quarterback?

913
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: It should be, But you know, then again last night

914
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 4: there were times that I thought they should have brought

915
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: him in. So who am I to say? But yeah,

916
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: I think they It's tough. They should probably give him

917
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: an entire series as opposed as one play teching him off.

918
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: But you know, it's it's such a tough call because

919
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: they're still in this playoff race, so you're not really

920
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: throwing away the season, but you know, how can you

921
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 4: keep Wentz out there for every play like right now?

922
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a tough call.

923
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at a minimum. It was really interesting

924
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: to see the report from Michael Fabiano that they were

925
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: going to use use Jalen Hurts, give him more snaps

926
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: and smash that the the unders on Jalen Hurts that

927
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: was That was nice. Sean, who are you lowing at

928
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: the tight end position?

929
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: Raybon hit the nail on the head. It's everybody, So

930
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to pick a tight end I actually love,

931
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: which is TJ Howkinson. I just think this is a

932
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: week where you know, he's five k I've been using

933
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: TJ pretty heavily the past two weeks, but you know

934
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 4: this is earlier in the week. Speculation. It's possible possible

935
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: that Kenny Galladay Danny Mendola and DeAndre Swift return this week,

936
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: which you know, Hawkinson's been competing against Marvin Hall, Quinte Cephis,

937
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 4: even Jamal Agnew the converted cornerback to the wide receiver

938
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: for targets, so you know, just the target shat getting

939
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: more evenly distributed when these guys return will impact TJ.

940
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: Hawkinson's floor, which has been pretty high these past few weeks.

941
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 4: So I'm just being a little cautious with him at

942
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: five k. It's one of those weeks where you don't

943
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: really want to spend up on anybody at tight end.

944
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: So he's the guy, you know, pending the final injury

945
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: part at the end of the week. He's the guy

946
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: that I think you can fade this week.

947
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: All right, Sean, give us the tight end prop.

948
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 4: Well you hit on earlier, but it's Evan Ingram receiving yards.

949
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 4: I was curious to hear where you guys haven't projected

950
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 4: with Colt McCoy. I agree that it might not matter

951
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 4: who's that quarterback. He might actually target him more than

952
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 4: you know, going to Darius Layton down the field. So

953
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 4: right now I have his projection at forty five and

954
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: a half.

955
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: All right, well, I feel like I've tipped my hand here,

956
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: so I will have to go over. I have it, Sean,

957
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: you said forty five and a half.

958
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, forty five and a half.

959
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: Disgustingly, I have this at fifty five and a half,

960
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: so I am way over. I need to adjust that down.

961
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 6: I have it at forty two, so I'll go under.

962
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 4: Right.

963
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't have the updated numbers for Seattle, but they,

964
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 5: I mean, they've been about.

965
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 6: Average versus tight ends this year.

966
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 5: I think that those numbers will go up because I

967
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 5: got her and Rogers. But just just looking at the

968
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 5: quarterback situation, looking at the fact that he's coming off

969
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 5: so many big games that at this point maybe you

970
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: look to kind of take him away a little bit more.

971
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 5: I know defenses generally have been focusing in on Steve

972
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 5: slat Let me say, I know defenses have generally been

973
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: focusing in on Darius Slayton, and that's why we've seen

974
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 5: Shepherd have.

975
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 6: Some some decent games in Ingram.

976
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 5: But Ingram's just made so much noise over his last

977
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 5: few that I think you're gonna start to see some

978
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 5: more coverage rotate his way, all.

979
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: Right, you know, random aside, I think In previous years

980
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: of the show, we would end with a quote unquote

981
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: bold call, and we haven't done that this year. But

982
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: since we actually have the time, and since there are

983
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: you know, just the three of us, let's impromptu maybe

984
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: do a bold call for Week thirteen, which would be

985
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: something like, no game gets canceled this week. That's that's

986
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: my bold call. No cancelations, no postponements for Week thirteen,

987
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: a totally normal or as normal as can be expected

988
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: week of a professional football for all of the fans.

989
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: In Week thirteen, Sean, I'm going to kick it to you.

990
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: What is a relatively bold proclamation that you have for

991
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: Week thirteen?

992
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 4: Dallas Godter will remain a top five tight end even

993
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: if zach Ertz returns.

994
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: That's a good one and very very possible too, because

995
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: zach Ertz, even if he returns, he might not return. Rabon,

996
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 2: give us a bold call.

997
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 6: Alvin Kamara RB this week. I say Sean Payton's been

998
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 6: saving him up.

999
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 5: He just wants up loose in this game because it's

1000
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 5: the second game against Atlanta, so he has to go

1001
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: with a completely opposite game plan that he went in

1002
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 5: the first one.

1003
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, ur RB one on his team. I could see that.

1004
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: That's a that's just that's that's that's too easy. All right,

1005
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,520
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1013
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