1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Well, it's that time of 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: year where maybe you applied for a limited entry tag, 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: maybe even just a general tag in a state that 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: might have been hard to draw. Maybe not, but it's 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: that time where draw results are starting to come out. 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: You're checking the mail, you're checking your email in box, 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: You're going to the state website and see what she got. 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: So you log in, you check it out, and lo 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: and behold, whoo who Congratulations you got a tag. But 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: then the first question that comes up is now, what, 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Well you're in luck because I'm gonna go through my 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: four steps that I do after securing a tag to 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: take you from a tag in your pocket, two stakes 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: in the freezer, burgers on the grill, and a rack 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: on the wall. This week we're gonna cover post draw research, 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: looking over maps, gaining intel, and scouting around. But before 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: we do that, I figure I might as well share 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: some fun draw stories and my first moves afterwards. I 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: always feel super fortunate when I end up drawing some 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: kind of tag. One because it means that I'm gonna 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: be hunting too many times. It means I got pretty lucky. 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: And three it's like, you know, you apply, you wait, 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: you're just anticipating every time I've applied for there's states 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: that I've applied for for well, I don't even know, 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: maybe twenty three, twenty four years a tag that you're like, man, 30 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: maybe I'll get that tag and still haven't you know, 31 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: secured anything. So every time that happened, and you just 32 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: you kind of have this anticipation of like, man, it's 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: not gonna happen, but you gotta think that it does. 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: Otherwise otherwise I would stop applying. Um, you know. For 35 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: the most part, I actually just honestly, I haven't been 36 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: super lucky in a lot of draws. I have drawn 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: some great tags over the years, but I do apply 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot of places. There's a lot of places that 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: I've been I've just struck out and been on the 40 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: unsuccessful side more often than not. This year I got 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: lucky and I drew a new Mexico Archery ELK tag. 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: Not a crazy I mean, not a crazy hard to 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: draw unit, probably even better than fifty percent. And I've 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: applied for it many times and not drawn it, so 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: it's the first time I've actually drawn there. I've gone 46 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: on hunts with other people down there a lot, I've 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: drawn some deer tags and whatever, but I haven't drawn 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: an ELK tag. So I started putting in for tags 49 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: would be a little bit easier to get, and happened 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: to you get lucky this year, get a tag. So 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, sweet when that actually finally says successful, You're like, 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: heck yeah, man. Also, I you know, I pulled a few, 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: um more just like general type tags in a couple 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: of different places, place that I've hunted before, and um, 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: not necessarily hard to draw. But man, this year it's 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: been crazy because it seems like there's a lot more 57 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: people applying in a lot of places. So I don't 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: know if it's because of podcasts like this, it probably is, so, um, 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: I'll probably just have to stop doing this podcast so 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: I can go back to drawing tags. I say that 61 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: jokingly serious. Um No, it's it's good. It's all good. 62 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: But one thing, you know, it's it's always fun to 63 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: just kind of check and see successful by your name. 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: But that thought always comes up, like now, what one 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: draw that I always look forward to is just my 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: home state of Nevada because it's just one of those 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: things just like ingrained in our tradition. There are no 68 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: general tags here for big game. You have to draw it. 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Ever since I was a kid, you had to draw 70 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: a tag. And there's years where you will get nothing, 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: many years that you won't get anything, um and years 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: where you'll draw something. You have an incredible hunt this year, 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: of like many other years, actually, we started releasing as 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: I think I let maybe last year they started. Ever 75 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: since they switched the system, they started releasing results around midnight. 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: They used to do it kind of in the middle 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: of the day. We when it was internet based, used 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: to be able to look up your name, and like you, 79 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: I'd sit there and refreshing pretty much all week. It 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: was just like the most unproductive work week in the 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: state of Nevada. There's a lot of hunters just waiting 82 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: on draw results, and we used to like wait and 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: then you scroll through the list, and man, everybody had 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: their own system for scrolling through the list and you 85 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: can see what your friends drew what you drew. It 86 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Now they released him around midnight, 87 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: so of course I'm like waiting up seeing what I drew. 88 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: I got lucky, drew a deer tag and a spike 89 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Elk tag, archery deer tag and a spike Elk tag, 90 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: and like sweet, pretty stoked. But then I gotta go 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: check all my family's draw results as well. So I 92 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: started looking for their results and I found out my 93 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: brother true a desert sheep tag, so I'm like, heck, yeah, man, 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: I was so pumped. This is his first sheep tag. 95 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: He's been applying forever, and I mean, I can he 96 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: probably I think he probably had like twenty points or 97 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: something like that, and I'm like, oh sweet. And I 98 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: did a lot of research. I kind of I pretty 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: much lined out, like okay, here's your choices. I think 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: these are gonna be your best chance of actually drawing. 101 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: And sure enough, he he drew this year. So I'm 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: like super excited. So it's late. I'm like, okay, I 103 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta talk to him, like I gotta. I'm 104 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: sure I don't know if he's asleep or what. Well, 105 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: his phone wasn't on, so I'm like Okay, Well, I'll 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: just wait till the morning. I can't wait to talk 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: to him. I said him about five texts, call me, 108 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: call me, call me when you wake up, give me, 109 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, draw results out. I mean he knew they're out, 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: but I think he just turned his phone off so 111 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: you could check in the morning. So he text me 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: like just standard text like oh yeah, unsuccessful goose egg 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, he's definitely messing with me. So 114 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him because I saw his draw results. 115 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: It was like he drew desert sheep tag. So I'm 116 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: waiting for him to like text me like just kidding. 117 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: But I'm like, he's got to know. I clearly have 118 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: I know his the password to check his stuff, Like 119 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: he definitely has to know that I already checked and no, 120 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: So like, why is he messing with me? So I 121 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: called him like, hey, you know you check your JARW results. Yeah, 122 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I didn't ge anything, and I was like, I could 123 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: tell you serious. Somehow he didn't realize like that he 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: had actually drawn. So I'm like, oh, this is this 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: is the best of every word because I wanted to 126 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: be there when he found out. So I'm like, all right, 127 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm coming over. I was gonna. I was like, I'll 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: come over breakfast or whatever. He's like, sweet, So go 129 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: over there and have the results ready, and I'm like, okay, 130 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: hand him the results, like take a look at this, 131 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: here's your draw results. You miss something? He looks at 132 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: it like what desert sheep successful? Somehow on the email 133 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: he had scrolled right like right at the top. We 134 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: actually went back to make sure right at the top successful. 135 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: He just scrolled right past that part to all of 136 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: the unsuccessful stuff, kept scrolling, didn't see any successful and 137 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: just assumed that he didn't draw a tag. So I 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: was like, man, that was so fun to be able 139 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: actually like see his reaction and be there when he 140 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: found out that he drew the tag, because I was like, 141 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: that was that was worth it. Man. It couldn't worked 142 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: out any better for me. I mean, because I got 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: to share in the excitement. That was pretty cool. I remember, 144 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, I've been fortunate and drawn a couple of 145 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: different sheep tags, but one in particular, when I drew 146 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: a Nevada, California big Horn tag. You know, I remember thinking, okay, 147 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: you know these are places like this is an area 148 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: I never hunted, um say, with my brothers TAG, like 149 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: we've never been in this I've never hunted this particular unit. 150 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: But what I mean, I just kind of went through 151 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: the same checklist that I do with everything, and it 152 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: just kind of started with, Okay, what can I kind 153 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: of expect in this area? When I drew that California 154 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Big Horn tag is like all right, I started going 155 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: through checkout summaries again. Even though I do all this 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: stuff when I apply, like really now focusing on it 157 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: because it's a different ballgame. When I had TAG in 158 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: my hand, kind of going through the checkout summaris reading 159 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: maybe where some of the animals were taking the sizes, 160 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: kind of just giving me a picture of what to expect, 161 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: and then it's like immediately, well, at that time, I 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: didn't really have online mapping system, so it's just like 163 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: pouring over maps of the unit, mostly big map books, 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: and then there's like almost like road outlas is but 165 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: they had they came up with some that had units 166 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: in them and all that kind of stuff, which is 167 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: pretty sweet pouring over that and just really getting like, okay, 168 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: I've been, uh, you know, check her hunting in this 169 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: particular canyon, but you know, not really focusing on sheep 170 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: or not having had a cheap tag in there. There's 171 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: places i'd definitely been, but not places that I knew 172 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: where the sheep were at. And it's just like reaching 173 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: out to people that I had seen draw or had 174 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: heard of hunts, gaining a bunch of intel, and then 175 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,359 Speaker 1: really spent most of my time for that tag in particular, 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: just out there scouting out there. I made quite a 177 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: few trips early in the season to really get a 178 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: good lay of the land. You know, I actually didn't 179 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: seem as much in my first initial scouting trips, but 180 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't really scouting for animals. I was just like, Okay, 181 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: where's the water, where's the access, Where where's this spot 182 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: that somebody maybe talked about, or like the kind of 183 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: type of terrain or type of area that I'm looking for, 184 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: how do I get there? Whereas the roads? Where where 185 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: would I hike in from? All that kind of stuff. 186 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: And then I started, you know, really putting more and 187 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: more scouting in and because of it, I ended up 188 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: with what I think was probably the best sheep in 189 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: the unit, based on just starting out pretty much doing 190 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: the same thing that I do every time I draw 191 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: a tag because realistically, for most of my Western hunts, 192 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: they're in areas that I've never been. So that, okay, 193 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: I drew a tag. Now what where do I start? 194 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: And that's what I want to go through this week 195 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: and kind of break down my process for the next steps. 196 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: After you draw a tag, I think to just kind 197 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: of get you and make it easier to understand the 198 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: process I think of it. And if I were to 199 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: think of like, alright, I drew tag. What I do 200 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily and I do it, I don't 201 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: really think of it in these steps, but when I 202 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: really think about it, I'm like, yeah, this is absolutely 203 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: exactly what I do. So I kind of broke it 204 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: down into four steps. So the first would be some 205 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: post draw research, The second step would be pouring over maps, 206 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: the third would be reaching out to people, and then 207 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: the fourth step would be scouting. Let's start with the 208 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: first step, so post draw research. Now, I'm the type 209 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: of person I love. I mean, I put a lot 210 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: of time into researching the tags, researching the units, really 211 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: kind of understanding what I'm getting into or where I'm applying. 212 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: But sometimes that research is more geared on getting a tag, 213 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily planning a hunt, because if I went into 214 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: the hunt planning, I mean, I might have five or 215 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: six choices multiple states. Most of my research is what 216 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: are the draws, what's potential success look like, what kind 217 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: of terrain is in there, what kind of public land percentages, 218 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: what type of animals might I be able to expect? 219 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: You know. But that's completely different than kind of some 220 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: of the research that I start to look for once 221 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: I have that type. Once I've secured that tag, it's like, man, 222 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: now I can narrow in. First thing I do. I 223 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: hop online. There's a couple of services that I use 224 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: where I can kind of look up the unit and 225 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: just read a little bit of information about it. But 226 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: I also like to just, you know, gather as much 227 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: info as possible. That includes searching documents that might be 228 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: on phish and game websites, might be on um, you know, 229 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: any anything that I can find on that unit. A 230 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff, like let's say I drew a 231 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: sheep tag, most states would have check out summaries of 232 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: the sheep, and I'll really start pouring through those, even 233 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: though I'm crazy about sheep, and look through every state's 234 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: check out summaries like like that's just my nighttime reading. 235 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: I've probably read through them four thousand times just looking 236 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: over stuff. But um, I really start to kind of 237 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: look at maybe like some harvest statistics and some anything 238 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: that I can find relating to like, oh, here's a 239 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: article that was written about this particular unit on the 240 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: biology and the migrations in the area, any kind of 241 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: little tidbits of information. Because what I'm trying to do 242 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: is I'm trying to build a picture of like what 243 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: to expect, because I think really the first step after 244 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: you draw a tag is like what should I reasonably 245 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: expect on this hunt? What is it gonna look like? 246 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: And what am I going to be looking for? You know, 247 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: if I start finding I start going through I'll even 248 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: go through things like in state record books, um, looking 249 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: at that county Pope and Young record. If it's like 250 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: an archery hunt, I'll start looking through some of the 251 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: Pope and Young records, um all pretty much all the 252 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: organization records and say like okay, especially for this is 253 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: primarily for limited draw entry units, where I'm like, okay, man, 254 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: this this year here was um, there was a lot 255 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: of entries. You know, I go Okay, maybe in two 256 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: thousand eight there's a lot of entries. And then I'll 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: just even look start looking up some data of like 258 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: what was the rainfall and water like that year, what 259 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: does it look like this year? And I start to 260 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: build out like this, like I kind of create like 261 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: this intel board. You ever see those crime shows where 262 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: they've got like, you know, they've got the criminal and 263 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: they've got that big board in the background and they're 264 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: like putting all the info and all the data, and 265 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: I just start a file and start just doing research, 266 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: because what I want to do is I want to 267 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: build out a good picture of what's the potential of 268 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: this area. You know, is this an area where it's like, hey, man, 269 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: there's some really big bucks in here, there's some really 270 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: big bulls, or it's like, man, I'm not really seeing 271 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,239 Speaker 1: it very much. This might be more of an opportunity 272 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: um because based on like, look, it's got pretty high 273 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: harvest rates, but there's not a lot of um large 274 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: animals coming out of it. You know, maybe it's just 275 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: more of an opportunity hunt. I'm gonna have a good 276 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: opportunity and good hunter. Maybe it's like, man, there's a 277 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: lot of big stuff here. Maybe I should hold out, 278 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I should target a really mature animal. Maybe this 279 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: might be kind of more of a one chance that's 280 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: something for really quality hunt. So I start to do 281 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: that kind of research, and then I like to kind 282 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: of pair that with just any kind of data that 283 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I can find on the unit. I'll look up fire 284 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: maps and and switch on layers of like, Okay, was 285 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: there fire in the area when there was a lot 286 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: of good animals harvested, what's kind of the kind of 287 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: feel for this area. Also, just try to search for 288 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: pictures just from other hunters, may we get an idea 289 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: of maybe some success um And even just like videos, man, 290 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: I'll go through YouTube videos just trying to find anything 291 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: I can it's like maybe about that unit or just 292 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of that general area, to get a good feel 293 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: of like what it looks like, what I can expect, 294 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: what kind of you know, if I'm seeing a lot 295 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: of pictures from this particular area, go okay, this is 296 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: fairly popular, this is the kind of terrain that things 297 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: are being taken in, more open country, more timbered country. 298 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Just kind of know what to expect, because once I 299 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: build that really good picture in my head, then when 300 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: I start my scouting, when I start my planning, when 301 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: I start moving into the other steps, I've already I'm 302 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: building like a really accurate picture of what I want 303 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: to be looking for. So that moves us on to 304 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: step too, And that's gonna be going through your maps. 305 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: The first thing I do, like, any unit doesn't matter, 306 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: so this is a great step. It's like, hey, i've 307 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: got a you've got a general tag, um, you've got 308 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: to over the counter tag, you've got any kind of tag. 309 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: My first kind of step is going over maps, and 310 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: it's looking for these sort of things. So the first 311 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: thing I look for is I find somewhere to hunt, 312 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: and that's looking for public land, and I look for 313 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: those access points. I gotta know, how do I get 314 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: to the hunting area? Where can I go in from? 315 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: Where can't I go in from? Where's the public land 316 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna be hunting. You might even draw tag 317 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: and you look at it and you're like, that's rough. 318 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: There's private land. Okay, Well I've got this little bout 319 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: of public land. And then you could even maybe look for, 320 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, some places that you could get permission on. 321 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: But it just gives you a place to start, because 322 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: you need access, you need somewhere to hunt. So that's 323 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: what I do. I look for that public land first, 324 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: and then I start to kind of key in and 325 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,359 Speaker 1: look at habitat. But also I really want to familiarize 326 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: myself with the area. I want to understand, Okay, what 327 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: are the main creek names, what are the main range names, 328 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: what are the main canyon names, and what are some 329 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: of the main roads and access points. You know, you 330 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: can always see like Okay, here's a number, like a 331 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: main that goes through the middle of the unit. Here's 332 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: a road that goes around the unit on the north side, 333 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: on the south side, uh, and then there's these roads 334 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: and other things, these trailheads, and really just kind of 335 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: build an understanding of that area. I also like to 336 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: get on some three D map action and fly around 337 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: that unit, just cruise around and really get a feel 338 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: for it. Say like, Okay, there's mountains here, there's some 339 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: valleys here, here's uh some good habitat, and then how 340 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: do I access that? And I'm just kind of taking 341 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: this broad approach but really just mentally familiarizing myself with it. 342 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons for that, and I would 343 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: do this before there is even any um online stuff. 344 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: I just get that map book out and I'd pour 345 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: over Okay, here's a mountain, here's the range, here's the 346 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: names of the peaks, and the other stuff. Because what's 347 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: gonna happen is as I build out this plan, if 348 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: you don't know, like if if I don't know the 349 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: canyons of the creeks, if I end up talking to someone, 350 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: or if I get um have some ideas of where 351 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: I want to go, I need to be able to 352 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: converse with the people that might be helping me or 353 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: some other people that I reach out to about the area. 354 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: And I want to have that kind of picture. So 355 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: when somebody says something, or if I'm thinking about something, 356 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: I can kind of put areas and names and things 357 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: together in this puzzle because it's going to really help 358 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: me build that picture that's on that wall where I 359 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: went from that research of Okay, there's this I'm building 360 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: out like a really accurate picture of what to expect, 361 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: and that's going to really help me build out an 362 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: accurate picture of my final hunt plan. So I'm really 363 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: learning those names of roads, those different places. I'm looking 364 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: at places maybe people were successful in the past. Now, 365 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't always like, oh, this is a concentration where 366 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: people are really successful. Sometimes I'm like, okay, that's a 367 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: good area to look at and understand, Well, a lot 368 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: of people hunt your Why do you think a lot 369 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: of people hunt here? Um? Maybe I'll start saying like okay, 370 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: I'll pinpoint a few areas and say, okay, well there's 371 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: been a lot of success in this particular canyon. Well 372 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: is it just because there's really good access and more 373 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: people are hunting there. Maybe that's an area to avoid 374 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: and I find somewhere else, or maybe that's an area 375 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: it's really limited tags that I kind of focus in on, 376 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: but I like to be able to build out this 377 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: picture and then really understand the unit looking at the map. 378 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm gonna now kind of start map scouting. 379 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: But before I really even get into the map scouting, 380 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: these are just my initial steps. When I know that 381 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: I drew that tag, I'm going to first learn kind 382 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: of everything I need to know about the area. If 383 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: I see stuff that's cool, I'm gonna start dropping pins 384 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: and pinpointing things that I like basin springs, canyons, road accesses, 385 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: those kind of things. As I see them, but primarily 386 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: just trying to learn what the area is about what 387 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: it looks like and build that mental picture out and 388 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: I'm and before So once I've done that, now we're 389 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: going to move on to step three, and that's the 390 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: reach out portion. And this is like with all the 391 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: map scouting and digital stuff out there, I think that 392 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: this particular thing kind of gets left out and this 393 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: is probably one of the most important steps. And I 394 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: like to do this after I'm a little bit familiar 395 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: with the area and looking at the maps, and that 396 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: reach out is trying to find people that have actually 397 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: been boots on the ground in the area and just 398 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: ask them some questions. And I I'm not the type 399 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: of person like I don't ever, I don't ask people 400 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: like where should I go? You know, that's not a 401 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: question that I ask. But what I do like to 402 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: ask is things that kind of helped me understand the unit, 403 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: what I'm getting into, and how that I can best 404 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: build out my hunt plan based on what other people 405 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: know about the area, Because in a few minutes, you 406 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: can understand more about an area from somebody that's been there. 407 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: Whether they were successful or unsuccessful doesn't really matter, just 408 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: kind of getting a good picture of what you're going 409 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: to expect there and maybe what you should be looking 410 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: for when you start building out that plan to start scouting. 411 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: I think one of the ways there's so many ways 412 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: now that you can kind of reach out to people 413 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: I've see. I mean I use them all the time, 414 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: and I see a lot of people use them as well. 415 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Just message boards. Um, there's plenty of websites and apps 416 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: out there that have message boards where you can say, like, hey, 417 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: I drew this unit. Anybody have any kind of inside 418 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: or hunted that I could maybe chat with for a 419 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: little bit. Social media is like a great way. I 420 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: mean there's people people reach out to me on social media. Unfortunately, 421 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: I don't actually see all the messages. It's kind of 422 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: difficult now, but um, you know, when I do see something, 423 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: when that gets pining to try to the best I can, 424 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: um answer. But I think that there's a lot of 425 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of ways to reach out 426 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: to people on social media, especially when if you drew 427 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: like a limited entry tag, there's not as many people 428 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: that want to be tight lip. Now if you drew 429 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: a general tag and over the counter tag, it's gonna 430 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: be very difficult to get information from a lot of people. 431 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: But you don't necessarily need spots. You just need some 432 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: kind of information to kind of let you form your 433 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: own decision. You're going there anyways, but just being able 434 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: to talk to somebody that's been on the ground there 435 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: is a great resource to have. Now. Of course, friends 436 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: and friends of friends, those are the first people that 437 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: I reach out to, and generally, like, if you hunt 438 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: a lot, there's somebody within your network or somebody that 439 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: somebody knows that can point you in the right direction. 440 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Just today, I was on the phone with one of 441 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: my good buddies. I'm like telling him some of my 442 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: hunt plans, some of the tags that I have. He's like, oh, 443 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: had you know, I haven't hunted that area, but I've 444 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: got my boss hunts that area, and he's got some 445 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: cousins that live in there. You know. It's one of 446 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: those things that's like as hunters, I'm always stoked with 447 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: a friend of mine connects me to somebody that drew tag. 448 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I've got this time of year, it's like 449 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone to friends and friends of friends 450 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: all the time, just chatting over spots, ideas, things that 451 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: I've seen places I've been placed I haven't been, but 452 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: things that I know about the area, um that kind 453 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: of stuff. As hunters collectively, we're a pretty awesome group. 454 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: And I think that one of the cool things is 455 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: like we're all the same tribe. We're all love the 456 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: same thing, and hunters love to tell stories and they 457 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: love to help other hunters out. I think there is 458 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: a stigma of like, oh, that's my spot, I'm not 459 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: gonna help you. But this isn't talking about giving away spots. 460 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: It's talking about connecting with people that might be able 461 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: to give you a positive intel on an area, especially 462 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to limited drawer is. I think most 463 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: people are pretty apt to kind of share knowledge of something. 464 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I probably won't draw that again in 465 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: my life. It might take me three to five years. 466 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: Here here's kind of what I know and talking in 467 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: physical talking to someone, it's a great way to do it. 468 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, back in the day you used to be 469 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: able to kind of reach out to fishing game offices 470 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: and biologists in the area. I'm sure you can still 471 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: do that. I don't know. I mean they might get 472 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: inundated and some of that information is like Hey, that's 473 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the information that's already published online, and a lot of 474 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: that information is you gotta play it by here. There's 475 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: people that I've run into you start talking to at 476 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: a party and start saying, no, I gotta tag here. 477 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: You start finding people to talk to. UM. But there's 478 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of resources out there now that weren't out 479 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: there a long time ago that you can connect with 480 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: hunters other places and start kind of sharing information now. 481 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't not the type of person. 482 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't even be like, hey, where where should I go? 483 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Where where's a good spot? UM? I like to ask 484 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: different questions. I like to ask the questions that really 485 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: helped me build my own hunt plan because I don't 486 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: want to UM. This might sound weird where it's like, Okay, 487 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the area, but I don't necessarily want 488 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: influenced one way or the other. Sometimes, you know, somebody 489 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: give you a hot tip and it's like, oh cool, 490 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: especially when it's a tag that maybe they've hunted in 491 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: with some friends. It's like there's no chance that they 492 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: could get it again or whatever. You can get some 493 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: pretty good tips that way, But for the most part, 494 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: I just kinda like to ask these questions like what 495 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: to expect, you know, I like to ask them about 496 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: their hunt, like how did your hunt go in there? Um, 497 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: there's sounds where I've gone on and I was like, 498 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: and I had a great hunt, but we barely saw 499 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: any dear. It was really tough. You know, this is 500 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: how we hunted. We hiked in really far. We're glass 501 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: and pretty hard. I've hunted there before, I've had success, 502 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: but do this last year? I was just like two 503 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: years ago, we didn't see anything that I just like 504 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: to know, like what did they see? And hear their 505 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: hunt story and just kind of build a picture of like, oh, 506 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: this is maybe what I'm gonna expect. I always ask 507 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: them kind of what they observed some and then one 508 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: thing is like would they do anything different, especially if 509 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: it's a really limited tag, because those kind of questions. 510 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't want just uh check this spot out. I 511 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: want to really understand the area. I really want to 512 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: understand the hunt, and I really want to be able 513 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: to build kind of like my own hunt plan based 514 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: on the things that I've learned. So would you do 515 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: anything different? I mean there's times where I've actually that 516 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: was one thing that I learned When I drew my 517 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: California Big Horn tag, I talked to some people. I 518 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: was like, hey, would you do anything different? They're like, yeah, man, 519 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: I got out there, I scouted a couple of days, 520 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: didn't see much. I wanted to spend most of my 521 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: time hunting. He's like, I would have. I would have 522 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: put all my time into scouting, because you know, I 523 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: feel like the guys that put in the time scouting 524 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: got the big rams. And I really took that to heart. 525 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: I scouted. I thought, hey, if I have two weeks 526 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: to hunt, I essentially spent that those two weeks scouting 527 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: and really one day hunting, even though I could have 528 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: hunted more days. But um, because of that, you know, 529 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: that advice and that like, that's what I wish I 530 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: would have done. I really took that to heart and 531 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: was like, that makes sense. You know, there's guys that 532 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: are going to be scouting hard, and those are the 533 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: guys that are gonna find the mature rams and they're 534 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: probably gonna be on them opening morning. So um, you know, 535 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: having that kind of intel and just really understanding the 536 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: unit and what to expect is great advice and it 537 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: really helps me then go into my final stage of 538 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: this beginning planning. It's like scouting, and that could and 539 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: I kind of I mean step four is two parts 540 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: because it's a lot of map scouting if I can 541 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: get there or not, and it can also be some 542 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: boots on the ground scouting, which is preferred. But now 543 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: I kind of take that map scouting the next level. 544 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: After I've talked to people and really understand the area. 545 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: They might mention a canyon or like, hey, we went 546 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: up this area, is this is the type of train 547 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: you might see in there, I can kind of then 548 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: pinpoint those areas. I write everything down, and then I 549 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: go into in depth stuff. I start looking at different areas, 550 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: different types of places that I like to hime. Maybe 551 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: they said, dude, we were hunting the road system. There 552 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: was dudes everywhere, you know, we hiked off a couple 553 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: of days. We saw we didn't see hardly any ELP, 554 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: but we didn't see any hunters either. Then I take 555 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: that intil and ago all right, I'm building that into 556 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: my scout plan. There's gonna be people people ripping all 557 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: over the place. It sounds like a really busy unit, 558 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: but they didn't really see many people getting off the roads. Hey, 559 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna find some spots. Now, I'm gonna 560 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: locate pinpoint spots where I can build to the type 561 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: of hunt that I want. I want to get away 562 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: from people. Hey, seeing fewer animals is fine, but you know, 563 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: as long as I'm seeing fewer people. So now I'm 564 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna start focusing in on those areas I've had. The 565 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: same thing happened where I was, you know, Drew Tag 566 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: talk to people who are like, yeah, man, we packed 567 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: nine miles into the wilderness. It was a zoo up there. 568 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: It was like trucks at the trailhead everywhere. Everyone was 569 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: hunting in the back country. They're like that we pulled out. 570 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: We hunted a couple of days on the way out. Yeah, 571 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, my cousin shot a little three by three, 572 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: But we wish we had more time to kind of 573 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: hunt this other this front country stuff because everyone was 574 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: packed in. Like, Okay, that's a good that's a good 575 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: hot tip. Maybe I kind of want to plan off 576 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: the same thing. Maybe I'm gonna find a few glassing 577 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: vantages that are easy to get to, you know, maybe 578 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 1: this is an area where it's like, man, I want 579 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: to stay away from people, and maybe this is the 580 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: way to do it. Find those pockets that aren't in 581 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: the wilderness but aren't necessarily close to the road either, 582 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: and and and play in my hunt that way. So 583 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: I'll do that by map scouting. I'll look for that habitat. 584 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: I'll start narrowing in one thing that you know, depending 585 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: on the type of unit you've got. When I'm hunting southwest, 586 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: one thing that animals are pretty tied to, and there's 587 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: not a lot of his water. So I start pinpointing water, 588 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: and I start saying, okay, here's where the water sources are. 589 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: And then I start to think myself, Okay, what kind 590 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: of year is it is a drought year, is it 591 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: a really wet year. Is there going to be plenty 592 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: of water? Or is there not one thing that's nice 593 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: when you're in this more arid stuff. As you go, okay, well, 594 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: animals are gonna have to be tied to water, but 595 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: you know you've got to be able to find that water. 596 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: So I'll start pinpointing water and those access points. Then 597 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 1: when his boots on the ground scouting, let's say I've 598 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: got a weekends, it's best. I mean, if you live 599 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: in the East Coast and you've got a Colorado ELK tag, 600 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: it makes it pretty difficult. But I mean, if you 601 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: can get a little summer vacation trip and go send 602 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: the family out, take a little motor home trip and 603 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: get a couple of days out scouting. Sweet. But what 604 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: I like to do, I'm just more investigating places that 605 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I've pinpointed at this point. So this is kind of 606 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: the next advanced step of like, alright, I did everything 607 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: at home. My first steps are done. Sometimes I'll just 608 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: run out and hit up the unit, even if it's 609 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: five to seven hour drive, Like I'm gonna drive all 610 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: night on Friday, I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna scout 611 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: a little bit Sunday or all day Saturday, scout a 612 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: little bit Sunday morning, and drive back half day Sunday. Um. 613 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: And what I'm doing is I'm just like ping I 614 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: just called like ping ponging around the area. I'm just 615 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: fact checking ground checking places that I've scouted, uh digitally 616 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: or places that I've heard about, but really just kind 617 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: of like learning the access. I'll go in like check 618 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: water sources, especially if it's more area, Like Okay, this 619 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: is is this like a good water hole. Is it 620 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: dry already? Is this summer that's was it a tank? 621 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: Is there a good spring? Is that spring running a 622 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: pretty long creek that's like going to be flowing all 623 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: year round? Cool? That'll that'll start narrowing down. Because there's 624 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: times where I've gotten into a place, I've had everything 625 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: planned out, I'm like, sweet, this is gonna be awesome. 626 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: I know exactly where I want to go, this beautifull habitat. 627 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: I get in there, you know, maybe don't have a 628 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: lot of time to hunt, get in there and it's 629 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: just bone dry. There hasn't been water in there in 630 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: three years, and you're like, well, that sucks. If I 631 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: knew that. If I just knew that one thing, I 632 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: could have completely changed not wasted a day like a 633 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: precious hunt day. If I just known, hey, I could 634 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: have spent one day just cruising around the area and 635 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: checking the things that I checked at home. So that's 636 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: that's my step process for when I draw a tag, 637 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: And by doing that, I found a lot of success, 638 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, hunting a lot of I had a lot 639 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: of places for the first time each year. But I 640 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: do put in a lot of time, and there's there's 641 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: many places, like I understand, it's like I haven't got 642 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: out and scouted, or I can't get out and scout. 643 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: I've got five days, and I get I'm gonna use 644 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: those days hunting. I'm gonna start maybe four days after 645 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: the opener is the only time I can get there, 646 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: but I'm going to use those five days during the season. 647 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: But I can do all this like due diligence ahead 648 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: of time, so when I get into the area, I 649 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: have a good plan. And by doing that, I found 650 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: a lot of success over the years. I hope that 651 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: helps you guys. Now, if you have drawn a tag, 652 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: whether I don't care if it's a general tag, whether 653 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: it's a limited entry tag, whatever, reach out to me 654 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: via social media, leave comments on my any post just 655 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: where you drew tag or what you're looking forward to. 656 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: I don't need the specific units or whatever. But maybe 657 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: it's a limited entry tag and you're pretty excited about 658 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: It's always fun to share in that excitement with hunters, 659 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: and you never know, maybe you could mention a little 660 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: bit about state and reach out and maybe somebody will 661 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: have some information for you. Um you know that, especially 662 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: if it's like a pretty hard to get tag, there's 663 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: always there's always people willing to share information. I know, 664 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: like that information always comes back to you if I've 665 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: been in a hunt or whatever, I like to share 666 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: some of that info because inevitably I'm gonna draw a 667 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: tag somewhere that they know or someone knows that they know, 668 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: and I'll be able to get a little bit info 669 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: on the back end. So that's always awesome. You know, 670 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: if you guys, uh think about it, you know, you 671 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: can also kind of do something similar on the comments 672 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: and the section wherever you listen to the podcast and 673 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: help each other out. If somebody drew a good tag 674 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: and you guys want to help each other out, let's 675 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: let's all help each other listeners of this podcast. I 676 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: think that like we could be the most successful group 677 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: of hunters if we all put our minds together and 678 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: uh and kind of help each other out in ways 679 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: that we can. So I'll be pretty sweet. Next week, 680 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: I want to jump into I mean kind of this 681 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: kind of on the same vein of hey drew a tag, 682 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: now what and jumping into a little bit of like 683 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: off season summer archery practice, because that's gonna be the 684 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: first season that hits. It's it seems like I know, 685 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: for me, it seems like it's just gonna happen tomorrow. 686 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm always like, I always feel like, oh man, there's 687 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: I practiced year round, and I'm like, it's already seasoned. 688 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta be ready, I gotta do this, 689 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: I gotta do that. So that getting ready, And just 690 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: give you some ideas of some cool practice ways, ways 691 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: to practice like you're hunting. I talked about some of 692 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: this this time last year, but just a couple of 693 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: different ways to prepare yourself for this upcoming archery season, 694 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: shooting your bow and getting better and better every day. 695 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll catch you guys later. Until next week. 696 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Good luck in the draws and help each other out.