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Speaker 1: This is Ceo Henderson from William Howes Holston, creator of

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Speaker 1: the podcast, and this is episode forty Houselessness and Hatred.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to explore one of the

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Speaker 1: common denominator about houselessness that is here in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: and here in Santa Cruz, that people despise the un

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Speaker 1: An effort for the unhoused in that community. They have

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Speaker 1: to fight just like in Los Angeles, and they had

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Speaker 1: to put an injunction on San Lorenzo Park, which is

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Speaker 1: reminiscent of Echo Park. So join us this episode to

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Speaker 1: learning how the hatred is widespread just as the COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen and the way of dealing with houselessness and the

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Speaker 1: treatment of the house. This is the old Henderson from

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Speaker 1: William House. We're here out in Santa Cruz and we

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Speaker 1: be in in Echo Park, Los Angeles. Lorenza Park is

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Speaker 1: similar to that. Due to COVID nineteen, we have the

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Speaker 1: same kind of places like here and in COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: we're also sheltering your place, So thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: How many people appreciate that terms that just calling homeless

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Speaker 1: or bums or whatever. So can I get your perspective?

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Speaker 1: Thank you please? Yeah, sure, alright, you have a very

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Speaker 1: lovely home. You keep it up. I have the sleeve

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Speaker 1: very you know, cause I lived, I lived, I've lived

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Speaker 1: the fact that how neat it is, how tough it is.

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Speaker 1: All right. This is Ceo Henderson from WiDi and House.

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Speaker 1: What's your name? Man? You remind me of my library teacher,

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Speaker 1: but I went to high school library. Yeah, you look

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Speaker 1: like it very very very superstar alkry. This is Theo

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Speaker 1: Henderson from William House, and I'm interviewing a resident here

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Speaker 1: in Santa Cruz. So tell us how long you been here?

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Speaker 1: Probably eight months? Oh wow, it's what got you coming

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Speaker 1: a field. A bunch of my friends and I originally started.

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Speaker 1: You remember where tent City was. Okay, we were Tense

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Speaker 1: last long back over here we came, ye, So how

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Speaker 1: are you guys because COVID nineteen. Are they bothering you

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Speaker 1: some because I see you guys got your tents up.

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Speaker 1: Like in LA they're starting to tell people to take

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Speaker 1: they were bothering the guys that were out in the park.

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Speaker 1: I told them they couldn't have a tents up, So

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. Now they're leaving us alone, definitely. So what

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Speaker 1: got you out here on the streets anyway? Medical problems? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Like most of most people in Pennsylvania New York on

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Speaker 1: the border. Oh, I moved out here eight years ago,

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Speaker 1: the city of brotherly Love. Is it true they got

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Speaker 1: Is it really good as they say it is? They're happening?

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Speaker 1: So what made you leave there to come to hear them?

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Speaker 1: A friend called me and wanted me to come out

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Speaker 1: uh the name of that town north of here? I forget.

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Speaker 1: I was there for six months and then I moved here.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you know it's this. Is it much safer

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Speaker 1: the town I'm trying to think of. I can't think

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Speaker 1: at least it's safer here. Yeah. So uh so what

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Speaker 1: But they uh haven't housed me yet. Oh that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: They should have you out our guys out there ya So,

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Speaker 1: uh would you prefer a shelter or a hotel room kit?

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Speaker 1: I'd rather be outside? I yes, Why, I run my

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Speaker 1: that okay? Absolutely? Thank you very much. This is Steel

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Speaker 1: a community. I noticed everyone's being very careful, uh and

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Speaker 1: What's your name? Man? My name is Noel. All right,

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Speaker 1: and Noel, how long have you been out here? I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm born a triplet on our dad's birthday. From

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Speaker 1: Two years and three quarters. I came to for fun

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Speaker 1: to retire from caregiving. Well you're a caregiver. That's cool.

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Speaker 1: So you came out here, and what happened? What made

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Speaker 1: I'm not actually living. I'm visiting my beautiful neighbor, Adama

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Speaker 1: we did some I mean, I did my spit test

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Speaker 1: So what can you tell us about the community here?

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Speaker 1: What's going on here? I think the most beautiful thing

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Speaker 1: I traveled our America asking people of homeless qualities, hobbos,

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Speaker 1: What folks, we're actually talking about. We're getting it here. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, you guys. You gave us the

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Speaker 1: and I thank you for your time. This is THEO

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Speaker 1: we're here here in Santa Cruz meeting up with different

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Speaker 1: you were a little bit busy. What's going on? You

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Speaker 1: said you were hungry, homeless And I'm from I'm Michigan,

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Speaker 1: so how did you get out here? I was or

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Speaker 1: I love the people here, and I kind of like

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Speaker 1: I love you. But like the system helped me out

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Speaker 1: the Street Team, So what did you do clean up

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Speaker 1: And then she was like, you take my phone. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: it gets hard because I believe in my Lord. You

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Speaker 1: and thank you for thank you for having us. This

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Speaker 1: I'm here in Santa Cruz with a famous food not bombs.

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Speaker 1: my name is Emmy Lee Ano Gomez, Emmy Lean Gomez,

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Speaker 1: So here we go, meeting us in the light of understanding.

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Speaker 1: have we have one of the founding members who dot bombs.

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Speaker 1: Let's take it away from him. Yeah, yeah, I'm keith

427
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: Ley Kennery. I helped start Food on Bombs in nineteen

428
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: eighty and I've been feeding people on the streets for

429
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: that amount of time. I've also lived on the streets

430
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: a lot myself too, so I'm like pretty familiar with

431
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: what's you know, the survival of living on the streets.

432
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: And right now, I think we're more concerned that the

433
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: numbers of people are gonna join us on the streets

434
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: is gonna get huge. You know, they're saying Princeton eviction

435
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: projects saying that there's over forty million Americans facing eviction

436
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: this winter. We're already seeing an increased number of people

437
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: out here on the streets. And the thing is that

438
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: there's enough housing for everybody if they just let people

439
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: move into housing, but they're controlling it for real estate

440
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: speculation purposes. And if you look here, this lot here

441
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: is gonna be luxury condos. What that lot over there,

442
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: all the way to the next cross street and next bridge,

443
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: luxury condos and luxury condos out on brands of forte.

444
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: But there's nothing for people living outside. And so they're

445
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: like sort of just pushing people to the margins. And

446
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: and they got the most inhuman there's millions of dollars

447
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: they just announced they go like another ten million dollars

448
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: for a housing first thing again, and there's mainly paying

449
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: salaries there's no evidence of an actual house being bought

450
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: or a building being built, and and that's that's outranged.

451
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Do you think that's part Do you think nimbiasm plays

452
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: a part in it too? Because where are you guys

453
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: going to go after this? Because nimbiasm seems to be

454
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: a minor major element in when we go to Los Angeles?

455
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: What about here? Yeah, well, this actually is a miniature

456
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: version of redline and what they used to call where

457
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: the banks for a red line on the on the

458
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: map right. And so they let this area go to

459
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: seed so that they the developers could pick up the

460
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: land real cheap and then build these luxury condos and

461
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: the city works with them, and the county works with them.

462
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: They're not even from here, and and so I and

463
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm hearing this from the National Union the Homeless. When

464
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: we're on those meetings, you'll hear like from Rochester Union

465
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: of the Homeless that there won't let homeless people downtown

466
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: because it's all like a new condos. Now, my first

467
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: wife is from Rochester's I've been there a lot. Who

468
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: would buy a million dollars studio apartment in downtown Rochester?

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00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a you know, maybe it's okay,

470
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: but it's just not where you would think. And then

471
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: we were at the National Union of the Homeless training

472
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: in Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan, tall, tall buildings, empty, it's

473
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: like luxury apartment for sale on the roof, like and

474
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: then people living in blue tarps all around the base.

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00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: So that you know, basically, I think that that. There's

476
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: a book called home Wrecker and it talks about how

477
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: they just made so much money in the last foreclosure

478
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: crisis that they just had to dump into something. So

479
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: they just build luxury condos and they don't have any

480
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: care about people living outside. We can't get people into hotels.

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00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: We can't. In fact, I had a friend that came here.

482
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: We would call every day for a hotel for him

483
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: because he had a hard fare and he had a

484
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: stroke and he was almost he was sixty nine, so

485
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: he didn't qualify for a hotel for months. He had

486
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: a sea pat machine. Eventually I got him into a

487
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: church where he could plug it into the wall. Name

488
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: is Bob Reye. And then he's riding his bike off

489
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: to do something. He has another stroke, hits his hat

490
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: on the bridge and dies. Oh my god, that's hall right,

491
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: we're having our memorial here on the on the on

492
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: the shortest the short shortest day of the year, longest

493
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: night of the year, December twenty first. Here it's what

494
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: over seventy some people have died on the streets of

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00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz from last year. Oh yeah, yeah. So this

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Speaker 1: is Alicia Cool. She's the president of the Santa Cruz

497
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: Union of the Homeless and so we are working together.

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00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: You can see the Santa Cruz un Homeless banner here.

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00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: This is called the Santa Cruz Homeless Union COVID Relief Center.

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00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: We sat up on the fourteenth of March when we

501
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: learned that none of the other programs were gonna be

502
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: open because they were indoors and they had to be

503
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: shut down because of COVID. So because of that we

504
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: set up. But we kind of thought, well, maybe a

505
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: month or something like that. Now it's two hundred and

506
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: eighty four days we've been out here, and we were

507
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: over there, but they evicted us from over there, right.

508
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: They said they're gonna put a bunch of tractors in

509
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: there to clean the levee, but they never did. So.

510
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: Then friends of ours came and took their fence and

511
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: gave it back to him, put it stacked it up

512
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: over at the police station. They kicked us out of

513
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: where we were for years down by the post office.

514
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: They had to sweep all the unhoused people out right

515
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: after the you know, when the CDC had said you

516
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: can't be doing sweeps, and then they banned us, and

517
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: then they forced us from one place to another. So

518
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, we've held this place between over there and

519
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: over here. We must have been out here about two

520
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: hundred days, and these two parking lots more. Yeah, yeah,

521
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: we're just starting. It's an incredible amount of food that

522
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: we're going through. It's all volunteer. Everybody's volunteer. We do clothing,

523
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: we do we're getting tarps, tents. The government comes and

524
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: takes everybody's survival gear, throws it away. We buy more

525
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: and get donations from the community, give it back to

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00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: them and then you can see that We put the

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00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: six foot marks on here to try to keep the

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00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: social distancing. We hand out masks to people. We usually

529
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: have the today we had the problems because the van

530
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: door fell off and I had to go prepare it.

531
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: But normally we have water and hand washing station here.

532
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: But you know, we're like just struggling. And then Food

533
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: up Bonds is struggling all over the country with this

534
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. In fact, all over the world, I

535
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: mean we're having problems like in Malaysia, Philippines, India, Bulgaria

536
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: has gone through huge amounts of problem. South Africa is

537
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: always having a new problem, same thing in Nigeria. It's crazy, man.

538
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: So food not bombs all over the world dealing with

539
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: the pandemic. But I think the US is where we're

540
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: having a lot of the most problems. It's one of

541
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: the last places too, in our communities that people can

542
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: get food on a daily basis, Like you could rely

543
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: on food not bombs and come and he guaranteed the

544
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: meal on. And then we're also talking about seizing buildings

545
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that because this is getting out of control.

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00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: If they're going to have like a lot more. You know,

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00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: they say, there's what two thousand people living outside in

548
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: the Santa Cruz. The reality is a probably four thousand

549
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: because the point time I do the point in time

550
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: when I did the last one in twenty seventeen, the

551
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: rain was so hardcore and I know where people live

552
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find people. Yeah, that point in time

553
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: is just horrible because and I think that everybody knows

554
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: that that it's not I see the thing that I've

555
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: been doing this, like I say, forty one years. So

556
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: when I remember that the I was involved in that

557
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: census in nineteen ninety where they were trying to make

558
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: a census for homeless people because it had never been done.

559
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: And then so it got that number was to seven

560
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand homeless Americans in that year. Then

561
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: when they went to this point in time count which

562
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: actually started to happen when the housing foreclosure crisis started

563
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: right in two thousand and seven, suddenly the numbers dropped

564
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: to half a million, so two hundred and fifty thousand

565
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: less unhoused people during and after a housing foreclosure crisis

566
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: that put about at least five million people onto the streets.

567
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: So how did it go down? Then? Huts count of

568
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: children say that there's two million people the unhoused children,

569
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: but half a million total unhoused people. So no one

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00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: knows what they're talking about. And they we can't get

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00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: charging stations in this town. We could were banned from

572
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: renting toilets. We tried that they have the city come

573
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: and take our toilets. We set up a transitional camp.

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00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: The cops came in, took everything. It's like a total

575
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: uh gentrification war here. And this is like kind of

576
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: where you know, Google and Facebook and all that. This

577
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: is their playground and that's what they're hoping to make

578
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: a ton of money on. Oh I see, well, thank

579
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: you very much, thank you. Now I'm going to shift

580
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: over to yes, now I can give you the attention

581
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: that it needs to it. Yeah, But we're gonna we're

582
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit more. We're gonna unpack a

583
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: little bit more about this. Let's start off from the top.

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Speaker 1: Let's introduce yourself formally. Here. My name's Alicia Cool. I'm

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00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: the president of the Santa Cruz Chapter of the California

586
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: Homeless Union, and we are a national union of the homeless.

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00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: So let'sten. How long have you been holding this position?

588
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: About two years now. I could imagine that it's been

589
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: their difficulty. Unfortunately, as like you and any body that

590
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: deals with the houselessness, you get your fair share of

591
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: detractors and nimbiasm. How do you handle it? Well? I

592
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: do get a lot of personal attacks both online from

593
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: people saying everything from attacking myself my children. I'm unhoused myself,

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00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: so I live in an RV. I've received parking tickets

595
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: and enforcement from the police. That's just uncalled for. I've

596
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: been targeted by people that are very much Nimbi's and

597
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I've handled that by keeping my head up, organizing, working

598
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: within my community, and that just keeps me going. Well,

599
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: let's look at this like, because like, you're not the

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Speaker 1: first family that I've interviewed that are on house living

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00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: in an automobile. How is it different from living in

602
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: automobile than living into a place, a secure place. Well,

603
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: in some respects, it's the same, and in some respects

604
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: it's different. Like we're a family just trying to live

605
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: our lives. We do very much the same things ordinary

606
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: families do. My daughter is homes right now because of COVID.

607
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: We have to have a safe place to cook, meals, shower,

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00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: My kids play just ordinarily. I have toddlers, so they're

609
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: always you know, messing with each other, yelling and screaming.

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00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: So it's very much the same in that respect. It's

611
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: not the same in this in the respect that we

612
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: don't have a safe place to park, we're targeted by

613
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: people driving past, yelling and screaming. You know, get out

614
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: of our town. You don't belong here. We don't feel

615
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: safe a lot of times. So we have a lack

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00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: of space, a lack of storage, things like that. When

617
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned something on homeschooling, and I know that I

618
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: interviewed another resident that has her children at homeschool and

619
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: that she's telling about the lack of ability of having

620
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: Wi Fi and things to be able to do the work.

621
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Exactly are you facing these things being on housing a car. Yeah,

622
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: it's definitely difficult because we don't have regular power and

623
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: you can't run your generator all over the place, so

624
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: basically we have to run our vehicle engine to keep

625
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: are power going. That runs a lot of gas. We

626
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: don't have regular access to those things. We can't just

627
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: plug in a printer and print out something and then

628
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: scan it back to the teacher. So these are all challenges.

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Speaker 1: What how, Because that's another good question, because I think

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00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: when I see these YouTube videos about lambasting parents about

631
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: their kids and things, this is something that they don't

632
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: talk about. This is something that they don't show any

633
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: kind of empathy or compassion for. What would be able

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00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: to because if you will ahead, I'm a former educator

635
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: and if I had a student like this, what would

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00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: be the way for me to help you to make

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00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: sure your child succeeds. Well, I'm working with my school

638
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: right now to send us a Wi Fi hotspot that

639
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Speaker 1: works specifically with the school. But as far as power

640
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: and stuff like charging stations, you know, campgrounds that are

641
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: like lower discounted rates, so we had a safe place

642
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: to go and plug in, you know anything like that.

643
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Right now, are teachers working with us and letting us

644
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: take pictures on our phone of like work samples and

645
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: send them to her. So we've had to do a

646
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: lot of workarounds. Well. Also what other ways to help

647
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: because like, for example, food not bombs, calm on a

648
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: regular basis. But I'm sure that the schools can help

649
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: because a lot of the food that they throw away.

650
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Would you guys be willing to do with Is that

651
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: a solution or what things do you think would be

652
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: help Yeah, food is always helpful. Anytime that we can

653
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: save food that's going to be thrown away and you

654
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: put it back into the community is always helpful. I

655
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: know we have partners that work with us here. They

656
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: go to like gray bears and stuff like that, and

657
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: sort through a lot of food that's going to be

658
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: thrown away and pick out what's good so that we

659
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: don't have to waste it. And so it very much

660
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: takes an entire community and that's always helpful. You know.

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00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: I have to confess something too. As you probably know,

662
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: this is the holidays says coming up. And one of

663
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: the things that really made a reaction for me was

664
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: there was a posting about someone saying, don't give kids toys,

665
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: just give them gift cards and get court because they

666
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: have nowhere to store it. But you have infant children

667
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: that likes Christmas and wants their holidays too. It's that

668
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: a little bit because for me that kind of troublesome

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00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: because all kids want to experience the same things house

670
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: or unhoused. Is that a fair thing to do. No,

671
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't really think that's a fair thing to do.

672
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: Children are children, and all across the board, they want

673
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: to experience the same things, and that's like a tradition

674
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: of growing up and opening a present, and there's a

675
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: joy in that. So I think that kids need that

676
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: that's part of growing up. Those are the good things

677
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: that we live for. These are the moments like why

678
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: live if you can't have some good stuff? And that's

679
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: what That's what I was really bothered by it because

680
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you're dealing, you're squashing someone's hope.

681
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: You know that that could be able to get keep

682
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: them going for a moment in time when they have

683
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: a hard time dealing with the situation. So you know,

684
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: especially with kids, you know they're going to be noticing

685
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: if they're going to or seeing on the TV that

686
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: everyone else is getting things and you're just telling them

687
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: just give them a gift card. That's just kind of

688
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's just something to you. See, I'm a

689
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: child of the group home and foster care system, and

690
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: so you just touched on something that kind of made

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00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: me think. I posted something recently about growing up feeling

692
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: like you're a person that the community and even your

693
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: parents sometimes don't. You feel uncared for, you feel different,

694
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: that if you grow up feeling like that, that could

695
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: actually change who your life, who you are. What happens

696
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: is it gets into your spirit and it becomes part

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00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: of your personality and your identity, and you don't want

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00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: to do that to children. Very early on, that changes

699
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: who you grow up to be and how you look

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00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: at the world, and if we can avoid doing that,

701
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: I think we should. I'm totally in agreement with that. Really,

702
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: that's what I was what I was reaching for because

703
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: I thought about it, and it says, man, we've basically

704
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: just created a new system of miserable people that don't

705
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: find any joy in life and now because we just

706
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: were because they have no place to store in a shelter.

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00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, maybe we need to really

708
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: think about it. It's not about the kids and the

709
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: families that's the problem. Maybe we are the problem, and

710
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: these shelters are a problem. In order for these people

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00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: to get some a humane care, we're gonna have to

712
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: start dealing with humanely. Many times, people have this belief

713
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: system it's not gonna work. We should just get like

714
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: we should grad our teeth and just have shelters. We

715
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: should just grid our teeth. Who just accept what's given

716
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: to us? And I don't agree with that. What's your

717
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: agree with that either? I definitely don't agree with that.

718
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: I think that we need dignified solutions, and I myself

719
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: am not willing to take something less than I deserve,

720
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: less than dignified. I think we need straight up need

721
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: dignified solutions. Nothing else is going to work. I also

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00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: think that across the board, cities and counties need to

723
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: be working with impacted individuals because what they're doing is

724
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: they're making decisions for people instead of with them. And

725
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: until they start working with people and really coming to

726
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: the table and allowing vulnerable people to sit at the

727
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: table with them and talk about these solutions, they are

728
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: not going to come up with something successful. I keep

729
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: seeing fail after fail after fail, and that's part of

730
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: the reason why, if not the main reasons because you

731
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: stayed in your unhoused note the moment, has COVID nineteen

732
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: been a little easier for you to deal with or

733
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: on difficult, especially with dealing with kids. Talk a little

734
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: bit about that. Well, for me, it's super difficult all

735
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: the way around, because not only do I know work

736
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: with volunteer organizations and with the Homeless Union, but I

737
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: actually work in San Jose part time as a shelter manager.

738
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: And they're talking about now getting people who have positive

739
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and an emergency interim housing project in which

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00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: people are only supposed to stay there for sixty days

741
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: but right now we're not starting their time because we

742
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: know that there's nowhere for people to navigate to. So

743
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: it's starting to get hectic. I do have a family,

744
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: I have kids. It's scary for me because I'm torn

745
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: between serving my community, being safe and having a job

746
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: and trying not to get COVID nineteen. Absolutely, so you're

747
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: basically just jegulate. So yeah, that's all that on my

748
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: mind all the time. And then here comes some nimbi

749
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: just sitting on this behind talking about on house. People

750
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: are not working or they don't want this and that.

751
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: But here you are jeggling this Why I got my

752
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: nails done or something? You gotta like? My favorite always

753
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: well he's got a cell phones? Why does he got

754
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: cell phone? You know? How does she have two cars?

755
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: You got two cars, but you can't afford five? Exactly exactly.

756
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: So so here's the thing. That's what I wanted to do.

757
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: So ms Cole, you have den me a left, Is

758
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: it okay? Because I was thinking about bringing because we

759
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: have a power up station in Los Angeles. I thought

760
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: about getting a generator power up and that maybe one day,

761
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: come when I come back around, have a power up

762
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: to help the unhouse charge their phones. Is that a

763
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: good solution? Yeah, that's a good solution. We always need that.

764
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: People are always trying to find Like I've even seen

765
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: people on the power poles like they somehow found a

766
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: way to plug in. And so it's it's definitely an

767
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: issue here. So that's helpful. Cool. So which city is it?

768
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: City council or police that work together in order for

769
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: you got to make you guys a difficulty? In Los

770
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Angeles we got the city council members and the nimbies

771
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: as well as the police. They work together. So how

772
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: does this work? A couple things going on here. It's

773
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: our city manager is kind and our city attorney is

774
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: directing our city council in many ways. So it's the

775
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: city manager, city attorney, city council. And then we have

776
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: a couple of like hate groups that are like Santa

777
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Cruz Neighbors, west Side Neighbors, things like that are like,

778
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, we need to get these homeless people off

779
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: our street. Anything helpful to them is enabling things like that.

780
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: So we have kind of a mixture, and what happens

781
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: is they feed each other. Yes, I see, well that's

782
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: that's pretty much the same kind of similar kind of

783
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: Verocity and Los Angeles. And one of the things that

784
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: like maybe I guess said, we get more more notice

785
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: of them about this here Santa Cruz, a little more

786
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: putting them on the map, maybe they will be more

787
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: reluctant to be in the targeting unhouse people, which is

788
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: why I did Woody in House. So is there anything

789
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: else did I miss? No, just that we've been working

790
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: really hard. We work here with educating our community. I've

791
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: been working with nursing teachers, We're getting ready to work

792
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: with high school students. I'm really trying to tackle this too,

793
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: on all fronts, especially with our youth and with people

794
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: so they feel comfortable. I've been hearing in house people

795
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: are afraid to even go seek medical care. They're true

796
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: way that they're treated at the hospital, So that's another aspect.

797
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: So I'm really trying to tackle all fronts of this,

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00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: and it's very much a crisis that we should all

799
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, be involved in because this is a public

800
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: health and safety emergency and anybody could become homeless. Absolutely

801
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: and well said this is THEO Henderson when we did

802
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: in House. We're here in Santa Cruz, and I thank

803
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: you all for listening and maybe we again meet in

804
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: the light of understanding. This episode of Edi and Howe's

805
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: episode thirty seven showing how we treat one another even

806
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: in the hardest of times. The pandemic has shown us

807
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: what we really think of one another as human beings.

808
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: They have a statement here of black lives matter and

809
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: of people here that have perished here during the protest.

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00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: To me, it seems like it's just empty words without action.

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00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: It's very difficult when you have the nimbies around that

812
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: advocate for people that are being on the streets as

813
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: being mentally ill, criminals or people that are coming in

814
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: from out of state. So as you can see, this

815
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: is as wonderful as a monument, But if you don't

816
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: put any action behind the words, then just that's all

817
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: it is. It's just about the name and the war

818
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: on gtrification at the unhoused sentiment and police brutality. This

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Speaker 1: is THEO Henderson from Weed in House and I thank

820
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: you all for listening, and may we again meet in

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Speaker 1: the light of understanding of shing s became so sa

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Speaker 1: sup