WEBVTT - I'm Conceited And I Got A Reason! 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.600 Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of The Black Effect 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:16.919 Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Um, how do we 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:24.240 start about the day? Hello, Hello, everybody. This is another 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.040 episode of Reasonably Shady. I am Gazelle Bryant and I 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:30.640 am Robin Dixon. I am so excited that you are 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.239 still here with us. Yes, and we're doing We're doing 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:35.440 a dog on thing and this is a good one 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.880 because this is I'm conceded and I got a reason 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:46.960 already about you. Yes, yes, But the topic today is 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.879 going to be all about body positivity and on the 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:55.160 flip side, body insecurities, social media and feeling confident in 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.160 your social media. I think a lot of people have 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.920 hangups on what they put out on social media. I 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:05.320 know I do. UM and just feeling confident and good 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.559 about yourself and ultimately not giving a damn. Hey hey, hey, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.760 And it's kind of special because we have a guest, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.800 Yes we do. We have a guest and she's so 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.080 special and I can't wait for you all to meet her. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:22.280 You're gonna learn so much from her. I promise you 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.000 are going to be so confident and you're going to 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.280 be working those pictures and those photos, so stay tuned, Yeah, 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.600 stay tuned. Okay, But before we get into all of that, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.960 you know, we got we gotta do what we always do, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:45.199 which is talking about our reasonably shady moment of the week. Robin, 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.840 you got one. I'm gonna let you go first, Okay, good, alright. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.800 So Robin and I actually had a party recently, people, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.840 and the party was at my house and it was beautiful. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.520 We invited a couple of friends, all girlfriends, and we're 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.600 all sitting down and we were having a great time 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.920 and we were kicking and we were drinking and we 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.640 were eating. And one particular stink faced individual was a 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.519 little mean to me. Okay, and this is my house. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.480 You can't be meaning me at my house. Now. You 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.880 can be mean to me when I leave my house, 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.240 but you can't be mean to me when you're here, okay, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.360 at my home. So I asked for her to leave 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.600 in a very nice way. Just leave, just kidding your car. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.840 You don't need to be here, scadado. And it was 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.320 so shady. This is the shady moment, guys. She she 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.920 decided to stay. She's kept her happy ass up on 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.639 the couch. So I'm confused because I'm like, say, no more. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.040 What are you telling me to leave peace? I'm out? Yes, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.799 So that was very shady. That was my very shady 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.760 moment of the week. I hope that you all don't 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.960 experience that because it's not cold. All right. Well, um, 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.880 my week was just as eventful as yours. And I'm 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.880 going to piggyback off that story and that same shady 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:01.960 person was shady to me as well. What I yes, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.600 but I mean I don't understand how do you invite 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.440 people on a trip and your rude is hell to 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.600 them in the invite, like insulting and rude as hell, 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.359 like that sounds real shady in a trip. I don't 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.160 think I'm going on like word. I mean at this point, 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.679 I'm friend, I'm afraid for my life, like I don't 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.079 know about that. Yes, so yeah, that is my shady moment. Yeah, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.680 it's just there's so many shady people out here, and 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.240 you know, the reasonable part of me, Yes, I had 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.240 to kind of step back and ask people what did 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.200 I do something wrong? You know, I always want to know, 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.120 like what did I do to contribute to what's going on? 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.960 And you know most people are like, no, you ain't tripping, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.080 like it's it's you know, it is what it is. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.440 And Robin just just that, just in case y'all new 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.640 to us, Robin is always the reasonable one. She's always 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.240 looking for the best in people. She's always seeing like 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.320 the bright side of the rock, and I'm just shady. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.960 So if Robin is called in the shady, it's a problem, right, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.960 it's a problem. And I really literally was like, well, 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.120 what how would contribute to this or how can I 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:08.640 make it better? Or well, you know, what could I 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.320 have done differently? Or let me look at it from 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.160 another perspective in all the other perspectives that I asked 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:19.320 were like, um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah right, Okay, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.120 So people, we got to get back to the topic 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.840 at hand, Okay, which is I'm conceded and I got 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:30.320 a reason. So, like you said, Robin, I mean women, 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:36.040 black women especially, We've all got insecurities and we all 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.200 look at ourselves in the mirror and which things were different. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:43.680 And that's just physical insecurity. We also have emotional insecurity, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:48.400 we have spiritual insecurity. Um, people have insecurities with their 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.279 professional career or where they are in their life, just 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.760 insecurities in their relationships with other people or you know, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.640 some people need or crave more attention than they're getting 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.120 for what ever reason. Um and all that can be 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:07.080 can stem from just different experiences as a child growing up, 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.000 and it's it's so crazy, Like, as a parent, I 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.880 think I'm a little more aware of the things that 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:18.520 we say and do to our children because those experience 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.240 that they have can really shape who they are as 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.480 an adult. And you see adults today that have issues 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.720 or hang ups or insecurities and you're like, wow, you know, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.479 but you're so accomplished and you're so beautiful and you're 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.640 so funny, and and you're like, well, where did this 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.080 come from? And you find out when you dig deeper 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.440 and deeper and deeper that something happened in their childhood 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.760 or their mother was always telling them to put the 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.839 cookies down, or you know just or you know, their 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:49.680 grandmother was always criticizing their hair something. So there's we 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.640 we as adults have to be careful how we treat 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.840 our children because that stuff sticks with them for real. Yeah, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:06:00.840 And I have three girls, teenage girls, so everything with them, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:02.960 they wake up in the morning and they're insecure about 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.200 something just because the confidence is not there yet. I 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.000 know that confidence comes with like when they feel confident 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.479 in an accomplishment. Right, So that's not there yet, but 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.280 it's it's getting there. But I do want to tell 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.320 you all a couple of insecurities that I have. Oh 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:21.479 my goodness, this is breaking new job. Yes it is, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.960 because she oh here perfect okay, um okay. So when 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.920 I was younger, like and and I remember this because 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.000 my kids are now at the age, that I hated 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.640 my stomach. Like I was a skinny girl with a 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.279 fat stomach, Like who wants that? That's just disgusting, right, right, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.839 I can relate to that. And I couldn't lose my stomach, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.960 so my legs were skinny butts. I had no booty, y'all, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.720 just no booty at all. Um. But I had like 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.320 a fat stomach, and that always made me feel uncomfortable. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.400 And even when I dressed really cute and had on 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.240 pretty dresses and heels and all that, I just still 0:06:55.360 --> 0:07:00.640 felt like my body was off and it really made 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.120 me just kind of like I remember when I was 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.920 interested in guys and I would like try to hide 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.040 my stomach, like that's weird, right, And the guys probably 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.760 don't even notice, like anything, they don't notice your stomach. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.400 They probably think your stomach looks great right right now. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.880 I had twins, so I got rid of my stomach 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.600 because I sat on the table and the doctor handled that. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.000 But it's all good now it's flat flat, Okay, she 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.600 on flat flat. But I you know, that really bothered 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.560 me until I had that taken care of. Now, I'm 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.560 not saying that that's how you should take care of insecurities, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.560 but that's actually how I took care of that one. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.000 But anyway, one other, big one, and y'all are going 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.720 to be surprised about this one. I hated to speak 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:45.200 in public. What I hated it, like, had so many insecurities, 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.440 like got dry mouth, I would start sweating. I'd be like, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.040 oh my god, I have to talk in public, like 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.240 I did. I didn't don't do it. I promised you 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.400 a second. I didn't want to do it. And I 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.080 think the issue, like now that I can look back 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.600 on it, I think the issue was I felt like 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.000 I had to be someone else, like I had to 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.760 create something and be like a dynamic speaker. Yeah, I 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.040 had to jump off the stage and as opposed to 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.760 just like being me, right, But I had to learn 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.600 that and that took I don't know, into my thirties 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.120 to kind of get there for that, which is a 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.720 little pathetic, right, not really, No, public speaking is so uncomfortable, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.480 and I think one of the things that attracts people 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.040 to a public speaker is their confidence. It's not about 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.520 you know, their their actions and them being you know, 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.040 demonstrative on the stage and and you know, being dramatic. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:43.600 It's like, your confidence enough to keep someone in tune 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.640 with what you're saying. Right, And it didn't help that 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.280 I'm married, like Mr public speaker, Like that didn't help either. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.040 That that made me even have more insecurities because it's 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.200 like I can't measure up to this dude. Um. But 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.600 eventually I just got there on my own. And now 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.640 y'all can't shut my ass. Oh we cannot. I'm speaking 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:06.280 and speaking and speaking and speaking and speaking. Yes, you know. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.760 And it's funny. When I've done public speaking events, I 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.480 feel like I'm like it's an outer body experience. It's 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.040 really weird. Like I do really well and people tell 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.200 me like, oh, that was great, and I'm like, really wasn't. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.160 Like I don't, like, I don't know what. I don't 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.600 remember one thing I said, but it's it's very weird. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.160 So I almost feel like you know when you have 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.840 when you do speak in public, you have to almost 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:32.640 like remove yourself from the person that's actually talking. Like 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:37.679 it's kind of weird. So since you shared two insecurities, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:42.800 I'll share two insecurities. One insecurity is my shoulders in 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.560 my back. I'm very broad, okay, and I'm the worst 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:55.120 because I'm laughing. I'm okay, okay, robb It. I promise you. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.160 I never thought you were gonna say that. That was 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.360 so weird. It's so random. You're you're you're describing yourself 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.280 like a linebacker, like, but I you're not a football player. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.120 You've called me a linebacker? I have? Or was that? Yes? 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.400 Do you remember I'm the worst? I want to hide? 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.280 Do you remember season three when um Monique had the 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.600 umbrella up to me? Yes, you say something like you're 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.880 gonna hit her like a linebacker. You something like robbing 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.760 with her line? Or was that someone called me linebacker shoulders? Okay? 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:29.440 That was it was you roll the tape. I'll take it. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.360 I called her that. But it's like Carly, did she 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.800 call me? Do you remember? Yes, Carly, who's always with 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.280 us is confirming Okay, she's done some research really quickly 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.560 on her laptop. Unless she confirmed, people like, oh my god, 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.320 she's not your friends. She called you a linebacker and 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.400 so okay. But Robin, I did not know that that 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.160 was an insecurity. Had I known that, I would have 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.200 never said that. Okay, it's not an insecurity where I'm 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.440 crying about it at night, like but still no. But 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:57.520 when I get dressed, um, you know some certain things 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.880 I don't like the way they look on me. But 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.800 because I'm so broad across the shoulder, so it's like, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.839 you know, you dress your body according to I don't 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.720 know if you call them your flaws you know, or 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.200 your securities. I don't. I guess it's not really an insecurity, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.839 but it is something that I'm aware of that I 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.360 if I could change, I would. Well, I think your 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:23.120 shoulders are beautiful. I'm making up for lost times. Well, 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.199 thank you. Um. And then my second one, and it's 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.360 not a physical one. It's I mean not um seriously physical, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:34.160 but my voice. I hate my voice, like I and 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.960 this stems from childhood when I would answer the phone 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.560 at home and like that, you know, they'd be calling 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.480 to talk to my mom and they'd be like, Mark, 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.760 my brother's name is Mark. So they thought you were 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.080 a boy. They thought your voice was a boy, so 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.280 they'll be like Mark, is your mother there? And I'm like, no, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:56.520 this is Robin. Okay, now that's funny. Now that's worse 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.400 than linebacker shoulders. I thought you were a board, right. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.200 And I know that I have a deep voice. I 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.040 know I have, um, I guess it kind of like 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.720 monotone voice maybe, but like I just so, I hate 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.200 my voice, Like I hate listening to myself. So I 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.880 probably will never listen to this podcast guys, because I 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.360 don't want to hear myself. Or I'll just press play 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.120 and like put it on mute, you know what I mean. Okay, 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.160 that that means you didn't hear it if you but 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.719 press play so we could get a so we could 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.600 count oh okay, the fact that someone listened to it. Okay, okay, okay, 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.920 But I like, I don't on the show. I hate 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.920 hearing myself on the show, and and it's it's kind 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.320 of weird. This is almost like this podcast is really 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:41.040 out of normal character for me because I'm not long winded. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.120 I don't like to talk much if you notice, like 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.280 I usually just get straight to the point. I don't. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.480 I don't tell long stories. I don't hold the floor 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.240 for a very long time because I don't like to 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.920 hear my voice. Oh, Robin, you've made up for that. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.920 I mean, I don't know how I got on TV. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.160 Yes you're not only are you on television? Podcast? And 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.280 yes we have a podcast. So look this podcast we 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.800 we have, we don't have a contract for several more episodes, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.360 so you got to get over it. Yes, so that 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.880 I mean, so that tells everyone despite your insecurity, I mean, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.319 I'm telling you that my insecurity is my voice, and 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.000 I'm on a podcast and a TV show and I'm 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.480 still here and I'm still you know, confident in what 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.040 I'm doing, and I'm still passionate about what I'm doing. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.319 And so just because you know it's an insecurity for yourself, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:40.079 don't let it stop you from your opportunities. Now is 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.480 a great time to bring in our very special guest, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:47.800 because she's like an expert on all things dealing with insecurities, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.800 getting to your best, confident self. She's gonna talk to 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.880 us a lot about social media and how that could 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.400 be like the devil right, but then it can also 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.640 be like Jesus because it can bring us to um 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.400 a great place. Our first guest to the Reasonably Shady 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.600 Podcast is Robin's girlfriend. So yeah, that's that's great. Yeah, 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:13.280 so the round of applause. Yeah, and you know, um, 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.679 this a part of what I love about the platform 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.120 that we're on is having the ability to put our 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.800 friends on, you know, to spread the love, to share 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.880 the wealth, and so you know, you guys might hear 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.560 from a lot of our friends first, but it's also 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.360 to show you all that we got some badass friends. Okay. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.840 I mean we're just not getting picking up anybody on 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.520 the contact okay, because we got some cord of friends. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.640 These are are badass friends that we're going to be 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:44.680 introducing you too. Word okay, So without further ado, I'm 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:51.040 going to introduce our guests, Jennifer, John Pierre. Is it 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:56.680 is it? Jean Pierre, Jennifer, Jean Pierre. Yes, you ask 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:01.960 somebody say it again for a people in the back Jennifer, 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:08.360 Jean Pierre, Jean Pierre not Jean Pierry, right, people always yes, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.160 love that love it? Ok and you are from Haiti? 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:18.840 I am okay. Nice Okay, okay. So. Jennifer Jean Pierre 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.360 is a widely recognized and award winning fashion and lifestyle 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:28.560 blogger with vast expertise and experience directing social media and 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.800 digital campaigns. Jenn has been featured in the New York 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:36.520 Times Style section, Essence, and in Style magazines. She effortlessly 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.920 and authentically blurs the lines between personal style, health and wellness, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:46.119 and body positive messaging in a transparent, yet very personable way. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:51.360 Oh god, this is a big word, Jesus, Oh my god, 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:56.360 this is this is none of your insecurities? Was reading? 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.200 Was that reading out loud? Is that one of your insecurities? 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.680 How do you say this? Eponymous? It's basically like my 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.400 I know what it means, yourself, you're, you're, you're, You're 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.320 named it after yourself, But I cannot I know what 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.800 it means. I can't bring up then, and neither does 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:17.120 anyone listen to this podcast like her name okay okay, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.360 and I think her introduction is done. I think we 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.840 need keep it going. Okay okay, and her popular in 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:31.400 herself name blogged I have a story about this too, Okay, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.160 I'll share it later, okay, and popular Instagram page She 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.160 has a massed a community of faithful followers, which are 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.040 no doubt a testament to her relatable personality. When she's 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.120 not sharing advice with fellow bloggers, Jen spends time working 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:51.040 on her budding photography career. Jen is also constantly constantly 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.920 thinking outside of the box to keep her community of 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.640 fans engaged. She's extremely passionate about making the world a 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.840 better place and makes it a point to champion for 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.320 social injustice. Born in Haiti and raised in Michigan, Jen 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.639 currently resides in Maryland with her husband to bonus children 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.960 and a star in her own right, her adorable daughter Teagan. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.040 Moved by the way loves me, she loves Okay, so 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.760 give us, give us share social media handles first, so 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:22.280 people can like at John here, so people can look 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.159 it up. Now, so you can look you can look 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.520 her up now as we're talking. Yes, absolutely so. If so, Jenn. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.359 If there's like a post you want to want to 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.680 refer to, people can follow along. But I just want 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.879 to personally speak to why I thought Jen would be 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.639 a fantastic guest for this podcast. I won't. I'm not 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.000 destined and that we're not that deep. Rob and I 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:51.880 are really nothing sace, no joking, Okay, So um Jen 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.920 I met just through gosh, just being around d C. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.720 I used to work in PR. Actually that's maybe yes. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.600 So I used to work for a PR agency, and 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.879 you know, our eyes are always open to okay, you 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.439 know bloggers and what's going on in the you know, 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.760 who's popping in the local area and who could you 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.640 know come make a post for one of our clients 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.320 and stuff like that. So I think I've known about 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.600 you for a very long time since gosh, maybe two 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:29.040 thousand twelve or something. Um and I started and her 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:35.440 content is so authentic without being thirsty. Yeah you know 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.359 what I mean. I mean I do have some thirst traps, 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.560 thirst traps. I've seen some skin on their and some 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.720 little sex, but it's not like thirsty, thirsty traps. It's 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:49.720 not like um nasty thirst traps. It's just it's I'm confident, Yeah, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.080 I do it when when I actually do it, when 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.840 I'm feeling insecure, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.879 put on this outfit and I'm going to show it 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.600 off because it helps me, right, and it helps you. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.600 But so it helps your your followers, the people who 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.240 are seeing these posts that they're saying, Wow, she's so confident, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.480 she looks so happy. What you know what's holding me back? 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.199 And so so I've known Jim for a while. Her 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.720 content has been amazing. I struggle with my own social 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.439 media presence, um just because it's funny. I saw a 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.840 post the other day that that it just came across 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.919 and the girl was saying, you know, why aren't my 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.359 pictures good enough? Why do I stop and not post 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.919 something because it's not perfect? Or you know why am 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.480 I over analyzing everything? Like I should just put it 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.040 out there? And I'm like, like, I literally I have 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.000 thousands of pictures on my phone and I don't post 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.360 them because they're not perfect. The lighting is not perfect, 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.359 my my my hair is not perfect. Well perfect to you, 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.200 isn't perfect to your audience. Well I know, but we're 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.760 under scrutiny a little bit more than the average person. 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:56.119 And so and it's kind of sad because I am 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:01.320 instead of embracing the ninety point nine percent of people 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.919 who love me for me and who are you know, 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:08.200 nice and supportive and positive, I'm holding myself back because 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.520 at that point zero one that is going to have 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.920 something to say So, for instance, and I'm telling somebody 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.159 else's business, I have a picture of One and I 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.159 that we took the other day and I want to 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.840 post it, but One gained a few pounds, and I'm like, 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.560 his face looks fat, and you know what I want 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.919 people to talk about. Face is fat. One space is 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.960 not fat. And I'm probably looking at it closely because 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.359 I know that he like, you know, did he say 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.359 his face was fat? Are you thinking his face in 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.480 the gain weight? Okay? But did he say I'm not No, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.600 I didn't point out to him. He didn't say it, 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.680 but do you let me? Okay? And as you're pulling 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.520 that up, Jen, I want you to think about a 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.160 couple things. So one, I want you to share also 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.280 your insecurities. I'm looking at your social media page right 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.240 now and I'm borderline like I don't like you anymore 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.920 because it's actually, I mean easing like this this No, 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.239 it's amazing, And the reason why it's amazing it was 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:09.280 everything is like clean, right, it's so clean, it's purposeful. 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.679 You you're like killing it like mine is like my 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.320 social media My i G page is like junkie. It's 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:22.200 just like I feel like I post everything too. This 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:28.320 is so clean and fresh and like your backgrounds are perfect. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.639 So I need to we need talking to school that 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.560 I go to every day. Oh so you go to 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.320 a place alright, alright, alright, So we're gonna stay focused 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.280 because first I wants not so Jen is going to 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.320 share like tips on just you know, how to put 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.600 out great And it's not about being perfect. It's about 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.879 being engaging if if you want engagement on your page, 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.159 and I guess people have to ultimately decide like what 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:00.760 is their personal social media for That's what I want 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.200 to talk about. Yeah, okay, Okay, his face is I'm 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.840 so mad at you right now. Okay, so one I'm 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.199 your friend, Robin is not. And the picture that she 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.760 is going to post because we're sitting here talking about it, 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.359 you look like the same amazing wine that you always 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:23.800 look and your girlfriend slash fiance slash white is being 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:26.280 a little shady and that should actually have been her 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:31.520 shady moment. Okay, I'll take that, so Jim lad us 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.600 all right, all right, Well, first let's talk about that picture. Okay. 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.920 The reason why we're not supposed to do Okay, it's 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.600 the lighting. No, it's because of the camera angle. Okay, 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.120 so whatever you haven't because it was probably tilted up 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:48.040 and going down, whatever is closest to the cameras was 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.959 gonna look bigger. Your head's always gonna look bigger. If 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:52.920 you notice when I take my picture is you never 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.199 have a high angle for me, and I'm short and 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:59.119 I'm squatty. Okay, so this number one, you gotta get down, 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:03.240 down and lean see Okay. See. I feel like there's 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.439 like levels to that because I feel like people have 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.879 heard that advice and I've had you know, I say, oh, 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:09.440