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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two fifty one,

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Speaker 1: Episode three of Dire Daily's Like Guys production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Wednesday, August two. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Still uh, still going with that. Yeah, I'm going with

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Speaker 1: that one, all right, burns out? Do you know what

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Speaker 1: day is? No? I don't National Maryland Day. Yes, of

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Speaker 1: course it is National Maryland shout out the shout out

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Speaker 1: the crabs out there in the Chesapeake Bay. National Peach

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Speaker 1: Pie Day, love peach by National Waffle Day. Peach pie though,

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Speaker 1: that's actually one of my favorite, pretty solid day other

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Speaker 1: than the fact that Maryland I feel like in October

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Speaker 1: in August probably smells more like low touch than normal.

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Speaker 1: But I still I'll still give it up for Maryland.

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Speaker 1: Maryland in peaches, shout out to Maryland in peach pie

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Speaker 1: and waffles, love it all. My name is Jack O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: A K I get the feeling. My pants are so

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Speaker 1: DIMPI my wife's crossed op by me? WHOA that is crazy?

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Speaker 1: Christie have a Gucci man, still just fucking roasting me

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Speaker 1: for riding riding on that ride coming off and my

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Speaker 1: pants being drenched for no apparent reason. I would I

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Speaker 1: would have noticed if I peed my pants. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I know I would have. All Right, that's fine if

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Speaker 1: the thing was probably pre soaked, and it's just bad timing.

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Speaker 1: Ride was pre soaked. We find a new angle, so

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Speaker 1: d they pre soak it so you look like that.

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Speaker 1: It's good marketing for the ride, and how scary it

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Speaker 1: is find a new angle. I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: as always buy my co host Mr Miles grab. I

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Speaker 1: hit my heel on my legs so painfully, Jacko without me,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's it. Just threaded those together. And that's

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Speaker 1: a great reference too. I think that was a trending

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Speaker 1: episode where I was crossing my leg and arranly hit

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Speaker 1: my heel on my shin bone and almost died. It

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Speaker 1: was I've never had such pain go through my heel bone.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm here, I'm good. Damn. That's right. That's

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Speaker 1: one thing that I that made me realize I don't

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Speaker 1: have a very sensitive heel bone, and maybe there's something

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Speaker 1: wrong with me because that that didn't really make sense

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Speaker 1: to me. If you had, it didn't to me either.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I'm walking around be like, hey man,

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Speaker 1: you know about my sensitive heels, but like it just

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Speaker 1: was like scientifically the point where there was as barely

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Speaker 1: little meat to protect my heel bone and I just

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Speaker 1: made direct contact with like its weakest points. So it reved, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that could be could be. H Well, Miles, we're thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined by a very talented journalist who is

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Speaker 1: the creator, executive producer host of the new podcast part

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Speaker 1: it's nay, how are you? Oh? You know, we're We're

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to have you filled to be here. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm a couple octaves lower than normal. I'm still

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Speaker 1: fighting off I uh covid last week and then my

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Speaker 1: just we're we're keeping them rolling work at We've got

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Speaker 1: rolling illness in the household, keeping a couple of plates

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Speaker 1: spinning you like the next halftime show? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Now how are you coming to us from? I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: to you from Austin, Texas. Hook I'm horns, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: went to nailed it. How how's Austin? Is it warm? Yes,

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Speaker 1: but it's been raining, so it's like eighty one degrees,

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Speaker 1: it over like a hundred and three, so right right,

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Speaker 1: if you're talking talking ship with that one oh three comment,

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Speaker 1: We're the hottest. How we how are we talking? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: just forty in the UK, bro, bro my bet. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: how well, we are going to get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talking about today. We're talking about mar Lago Sweatfest, just

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Speaker 1: the the ongoing circus of reactions. They still talk about

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Speaker 1: spinning plates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of plates spinning

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Speaker 1: different directions different people. There was there was a moment

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Speaker 1: which means that's never a good sign. He practically is anyway,

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Speaker 1: But it's just fun to look at his circle as

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Speaker 1: they as they react. We're going to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: nahha about Partition. Show. Great show that talks about a

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Speaker 1: piece of twentieth century history, one of the most important

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Speaker 1: events of twentieth century history that has been memory holding

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Speaker 1: a lot of places and yeah places, Yeah in the

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Speaker 1: West at least we might even talk about McDonald's play

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Speaker 1: of places. Is that really what they called them? Play places?

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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty vague, but those playgrounds that they used to

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Speaker 1: have connected to McDonald's and still do some places. It

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Speaker 1: just it smelled their death traps. Yeah, it smelled like

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Speaker 1: a pie sneezed on a piece of Pooh inside of

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Speaker 1: McDonald's play if you can bring those together, like knees

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Speaker 1: on a pooh like a p the vegetable or however

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Speaker 1: you're ryne was a real person or a being itself,

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Speaker 1: the ability to sneeze. There's always band aids. I always

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, like you have that memory of when you're

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Speaker 1: eating peas and it sneezed on a piece of the

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Speaker 1: not only talk about peace sneezing on poop. We will

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Speaker 1: ask you questions such as, nahaw, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are.

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Speaker 1: So it's my friend's birthday today and she wants to

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Speaker 1: go to an adult skate night, which I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say picky, but I mean most people

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Speaker 1: But what what are What's what's like a thing too

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Speaker 1: sure there's a bunch of things that people are like,

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Speaker 1: this is my mom's fault because my mom doesn't eat cheese.

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Speaker 1: Miles is hovering over this subject because he is like

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Speaker 1: is Montell Jordan's this is how we do it. Just kick.

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Speaker 1: Let's set the tone right there. So a great choice,

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Speaker 1: j mcar, I want to be playard, you know what

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Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated? Now? I thought about

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Speaker 1: in trouble. But I feel like I've already got controlled

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Speaker 1: for this quite enough times. The good news is this

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Speaker 1: gonna say something controversial, and I'm going to say something

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Speaker 1: I think is overrated. Is the movie Blade Runner. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then my sister is like, no, you need to

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00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: leave the house. We're not gonna That's that exact conversation

424
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Speaker 1: is taking place over the last six months between me

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00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: and my wife because my six year old is obsessed

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00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: with sharks, but the boy is ready maybe started off

427
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: with like Shark week or something. We've worn out Shark Week.

428
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: We have watched all the good footage of great white

429
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: sharks feeding, reaching great weight shark feeding frenzy that is

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Speaker 1: on rotation. I remember also too, when I asked my

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Speaker 1: dad about death, he said, go in the bathtub and

432
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Speaker 1: close your eyes and put your head like your ears

433
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 1: below the water, like when your head like dunk, and

434
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: then think of how you can close your eyes and

435
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: think how not much is going on. It's like that's

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00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: kind of what was like, Yeah, but that's a that's

437
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: a I think he just wanted you to leave him

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00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: alone and go him the bath for a little bit.

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00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: Had a very like straight up honesty policy with me,

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00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, and so, and it wasn't really traumatic. I

441
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: mean as a kid, I was like, okay, when I

442
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: go in the bath next time, for like, I don't

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00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: I can't fucking conceptualize. But then like as I got older,

444
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, float tanks and like sensory deprivation.

445
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is what the fun he was

446
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: trying to say. I did a separate sensory deprivation tank

447
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: once I it was the closest to time travel I've

448
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: ever come. It was like I went in, the lights

449
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: went down, the lights came back up, and I guess

450
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: I fell asleep for five minutes. But I did not

451
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: notice that ship at all. It was just over. So

452
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe that is what death is. Anyways, let's take a

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Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk about the

454
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: marl Lago sweatfest that we've been witnessing. And we're back,

455
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: and I mean things like for the most part, for

456
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, the story is still the same.

457
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: We will hear more about like what exactly was in

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Speaker 1: the affidavit, I guess tomorrow if we want. By even then,

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00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: the judges like if everything has to be redacted, there's

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00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: no point and even showing people because it's basically saying

461
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. It's not good. But so in this

462
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: period in between, you know, it's another one of those

463
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: fun periods where like they don't know what to do

464
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: with themselves, and so we we just get to see

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00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: the right wing panic, which is as as good as

466
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: it gets for us at this point, because they are

467
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: does feel like they're ascendant and like eventually going to

468
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: take over the government. But at least we get to

469
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: watch them squirm. But in the meantime we can watch

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00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: them squirm. Yeah they are. They're dealing with a lot

471
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: of problems. The first one is dealing with just the

472
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: optics of Trump hoarding sensitive documents like some goofed up

473
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Speaker 1: Sniegel there in the l A Times right up about it.

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00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: He was apparently they want to describe me swatting away

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00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: government officials and saying that the documents were quote mine, Um,

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00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: so okay, fine, but oh their mind. I like, I

477
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: felt more like it had more of a children, like

478
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: a child vibe when I'm taking more of my precious.

479
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there's definitely on my precious. But he's like, no,

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00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: their mind. They gave them to me, so then their mind. Well,

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00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: Rhondes Santis he went on Fox and Friends, and you know,

482
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: as somebody who a lot of people are keeping their

483
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: eye on, is like being maybe the actual person who's

484
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: going to be running in with the Republicans or not.

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00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: He had a really interesting answer to a question when

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Speaker 1: the host of Fox and Friends said, Hey, have you

487
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: talked to to Have you talked to Donald Trump recently?

488
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: You know, because that's so happening in your state, And

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00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't just tell me what you make of this answer, Governor,

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00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: have you spoken to the former president about it or

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00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: about anything lately? Well, Brian Uh to the extent I

492
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: do have conversations with them. I'm sure d o J

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00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: and FBI would leak that to the New York Times,

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00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: so stay tuned on all right. Damn, he thought that

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00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: was a good answer, Like he got real smug looking

496
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: like and I guess when you're on Fox and Friends,

497
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: like they're they're just gonna be like, that's so funny?

498
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that him saying like trying to say no,

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00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: I haven't, So he's trying to be coy because he

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00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: doesn't want to say no, I haven't. I was spoken

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00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: now to the extent that I have spoken to him,

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00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: and I cannot The New York Times would know, had I,

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00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: because the d o J would leak uh. And he

504
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: like managed to speak himself into a weird like logic

505
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: probability cloud. It's like it did and it didn't exist

506
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: like like a very like a cousin Greg type answer

507
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: from yeah, yeah exactly, I mean he's smart, Yeah, he's smart.

508
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Then there was this other time that Jared Kushner goes

509
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: on and asked a pretty straightforward question, you know, why

510
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: why would President Trump have all these documents? And oh

511
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: my my man does a real good job again and

512
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: just being like I don't really know that guy anyway,

513
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: he's asking for a special master and asking for them

514
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: to stop going through the stuff as they may be

515
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: right now. Uh, The New York Times has got the

516
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: item today for Maggie Haberman and some of the other

517
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: reporters that apparently there were three hundred classified documents at

518
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Maral Lago over the last year or so, and they,

519
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, they think they've gotten them all by now.

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00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Why would the former president have that many classified things

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00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: at moral Lago. So I'm not familiar with what exactly

522
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: the contents were, but what I'll just say from my

523
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: personal experience is that again in the campaign, in the transition,

524
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: we had a very innocent meeting with the Russian embat

525
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: goes on word salad. This has happened before. They think

526
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: something we did something bad and it turns out it wasn't.

527
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: But also, I don't really know him or associate with

528
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: him that much, so let's not don't associate with me.

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00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: He definitely has a hand hand coach, but like somebody

530
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: is coaching him on what to do with his hands,

531
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: maybe in an earwig. So that that is the closest

532
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: I've ever come to identifying with Jeric Trishner because my

533
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: my hand coach. We're making progress, but I'm still not there.

534
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm still natural. But he also looks he really look

535
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: looks like he's like aging backwards into a little boy

536
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: or a dummy of a little boy. It's very very

537
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: He feels like the main character of like a contained

538
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: thriller about like a doll that you know, it's like

539
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: sucking everyone's life thriller. Yeah, because it's all taking place

540
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: in one house. You know they're big right now. Contained

541
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: thrillers are fucking huge. Yeah, because dolls can't run very fast,

542
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: just like that. Specific But that was Donald Trump's son

543
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: in law. What about his real sons, his sis, his

544
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: real children. Eric Chill is not a word I would

545
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: use to describe his children. Chill. No, no, absolutely not.

546
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: But Eric Trump is doing the same thing he's been doing,

547
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: which is lying his ass off about how much energy

548
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: is out there and how people are constantly coming up

549
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: to him about how fucked up this is. This is

550
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: him on news Max with a very similar take. I'm

551
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: telling you even the energy, I mean, I was on

552
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: a flight this warning the energy on that flight, everybody

553
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: came up to me, Sorry, what these people are doing

554
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: to your family. Your father has to go out there.

555
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: You have our vote, you have our entire famili's vote,

556
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: You've got our entire streets vote. Everybody I know, you know,

557
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: walk them to run again. Uh, they've really piste off everybody. Rob.

558
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, people know exactly what this is and that's

559
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: a weaponization. Um oh yeah, the d o J or

560
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: whatever they could say. So, yes, the energy out there

561
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: is so it's so amazing, dude, you won't believe it.

562
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: And actually you should vote for us, which maybe soft

563
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: pitch that you know this he's not in terrible, terrible trouble.

564
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: And oh we got a round out that the defense

565
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: from the children from old don Ju here. Yeah, this

566
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: is the one that I had heard about. Dude, he

567
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: he's fucking he's he's out here on some next level

568
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: like stand up. He's like Bill Hicks. Now, I think

569
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: he's just like blowing up and then getting on stage

570
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: and just doing wacky stand up. So here's Donald Trump Jr.

571
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Talking saying like, yeah, it's a good thing my dad

572
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: my documents. Essentually, Donald Trump has the nuclear coase in

573
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: the Linnen closet at bar A Lago. Right, this is

574
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: straight stand up by the way. For the record, I'd

575
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: say that if Donald Trump actually still had the nuclear coach,

576
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: he'd probably be good our enemies. Our enemies might actually

577
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, maybe let's not mess with them. I'm like,

578
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: when they look at Joe Biden then they say, you

579
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: know what we should attack? Now? Um, what does he

580
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: think the nucle Never mind doesn't matter, So Donald Trump

581
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: can can really getting thing of of how how this works. Yeah. Again,

582
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to lean too much on the visuals,

583
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: but his body language is like suggests he's been taking

584
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: acting lessons of like how to play his father in

585
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: a like straight to DVD. Yeah, he's doing Did you

586
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: notice that he's doing the hand out and there's like

587
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: a lean Yeah, you know, it could just be genetic,

588
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: it could be effortless nail. What did you think about

589
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: his delivery? You know that's like just someone who watches

590
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: people performed. Do you feel completely uncomfortable by it? Like

591
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: I was on my phone and then I saw that

592
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: clip and I was like, yeah, it's so weird. It's

593
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: I think it's the whole situation, Like you see that

594
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: they're there's there's just this like weird flailing to all

595
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: of this ship right, like him getting up there. It

596
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: really I don't know what he thought he was doing

597
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: up there. And it's funny you brought up Chris Farley

598
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: because I was watching this like Dark Side of Comedy

599
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: documentary about Chris Farley, and one of his castmates was

600
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: talking about like when you're getting when you're getting fucked

601
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: up and doing comedy, it's really hard to connect with

602
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: your audience, like when you're fucked up. And Donald Trump Jr.

603
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Like looked like an example of someone's like, I'm just

604
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna get in my own world and go out there

605
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: with a mic in my hand and maybe people will

606
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: laugh along. And if not, whatever, you're just gonna watch

607
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: me fucking FLI just watch me like I'm a I'm

608
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: a wind up toy. Yeah yeah, real wound up. This

609
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: goes along too with you know that his lawyers are

610
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: screwing up. We've already talked about how like Laura Ingram

611
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: was like, hey, maybe you should do like lawyer stuff

612
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: and like file motions, which they did way too little,

613
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: too late, and all along with this going on, there's

614
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: like this other issue that the Republicans are talking about,

615
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: which is them not being so sure about a red

616
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: wave this mid term this November more of like a

617
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: red sneeze if maybe and we had Mitch McConnell saying,

618
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, because of candidate quality, like maybe we need

619
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: to readjust our expectations. Meanwhile, Laura Ingram is doing this

620
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: thing where she's like almost begging the viewers to be like,

621
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: they're not that bad guys, Just let's just pretend for

622
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: a little bit that they're really good. Huh. So maybe

623
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: this will work. So instead of complaining about our candidates

624
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: are kind of being wishy washing on them, we should

625
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: recognize that this group is actually great. She's talking about

626
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: dr Oz and herschel Walker. Huh. Okay, this is like

627
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: in response to like these people getting kind of like

628
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: out maneuvered in their races and never be like, what's

629
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: going on here? Aren't hominies with a few exceptions like

630
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Colorado are political newcomers. They haven't had a lot of experience,

631
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: but that's okay. They're out there fighting for the average person.

632
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: They should be respected for getting in the ring. Okay,

633
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: so it's like a for effort, let's vote for him. Yeah,

634
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: I think there's just there's clearly there's a lack of

635
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: energy that there. I'm sure the consultant class and polling

636
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: classes noticing and they're like you, I don't know, maybe

637
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: have Lauren and Laura Ingram scream at them to vote

638
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: for these people who are not great at all. Yeah,

639
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, it'll it'll be interesting to to see.

640
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: I still I just have a pit in my stomach

641
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: that like, this is again the polling class making it

642
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: seem like what what they read and the Washington Post

643
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: and ship is is actually like relevant, and also like

644
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: their inability to pull Republicans effectively, Like I don't know, Well,

645
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: well we'll see. I just I'm I'm very pessimistic about America.

646
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: Call me crazy, but I think there's just there is

647
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: something too. You're seeing like when someone is actually confident

648
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: versus one desperately trying to project it too, it is

649
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: fun to watch, That's what I'm picking up on. I'm like,

650
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: you don't sound too confident. And that's all I can

651
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: say about that. One more thing, since we are are

652
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: just learning this stuff as they go, you guys, this

653
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: is actually like really good. Imagine if like you just

654
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: went out and tried to play NBA basketball, like it

655
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: would be hard, right, like you get you get eat

656
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: pretty bad, and these guys are kind of holding their

657
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: own out there, so I think we just give them,

658
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: give them some respect. They're trying, huh, all right, get

659
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: out there. And then finally, just because because we are

660
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: talking about campaigns and we talked about like eighties films

661
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: like Jaws and Indiana Jones. Just now, um, Rhonda Santis,

662
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: he's got a new ad. And on that same interview

663
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: when he went on Fox and Friends, he they were like,

664
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about your ad, and it's he did

665
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: like a take on fucking top Gun, but it was

666
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: just this is this is when it's interesting, right because

667
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: when he goes on Fox, I also see the network

668
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: also trying to get viewers comfortable with the idea of

669
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: him being like one of the biggest figures in the

670
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: party too. So this is just a little bit of

671
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: patting on the back from Fox to Rhonda Santis for

672
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: his So like his sick ass top Gun that he made,

673
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: and now you have a new ad based on the

674
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: very popular movie Top Gun, channeling your inner Maverick. Let's

675
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: take a look and get your response. Don't fire less

676
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: fired upon, but when they fire, you fire back with

677
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: overwhelming pork. Does it say that in the bill that

678
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm asking you to tell me what's in the bill?

679
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: How did you come up with that idea for that? Well?

680
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: I think it was something that my my wife initially

681
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: thought about because you talk about the dog fighting, and

682
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well what is our dog fighting? It's

683
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: dealing with corporate press and always making sure that we

684
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: stand our ground. Uh. Anyway, so Dan drew ground no

685
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: policy there. Sparring with CNN is similar to being a

686
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: air force a decorated Air force military hero. I think

687
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: we can all agree on that. Top Why would I

688
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: be carrying this helmet if I wasn't a pilot walking

689
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: your jets? Okay, well he's got my boat I'm in.

690
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: That is pretty wild like that, I feel. I do

691
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: feel like that is a new like that used to

692
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: be a big thing of like no, no, false that

693
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: like you can't steal that where wearing a military uniform

694
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: that you didn't actually where? But I guess I guess

695
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: we are far beyond that point. It's it's just interesting

696
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: how far, how far from the the original Republican Party

697
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: these guys have gone. Yeah, oh you know what he

698
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the Navy. He was a Navy jack. Oh, man,

699
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I feel like a fucking jerk. I'm sorry, hold that

700
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: l Jack. I'm done. Yeah, yeah, this this episode is

701
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: over cut. It cut the tape. Yeah, I don't know.

702
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: It's um. I would say it's gonna be interesting, but

703
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like nothing's gonna get done

704
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: about Trump. He's gonna roll to victory and the primary

705
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: and then I don't know, I got a bad feeling.

706
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. I'm just I don't have a

707
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: bad feeling. I'm waiting to have more things to give

708
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: me a bad feeling. I'm still I still, I still

709
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: run at a general pace of ambivalence. And I'm like,

710
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm sucking correct would either fucking way,

711
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm more. I'm more like, I'm like, oh,

712
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of data to sift through right now.

713
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, all right, let's take a quick

714
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk to Nah about partition.

715
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Speaker 1: And we're back, and now I guess, like for I

716
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Speaker 1: was gonna start out talking about like how partition has

717
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: been somewhat like memory hold, at least in like Western education,

718
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: but because of that, we probably should open just by

719
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: telling people like what is what is partition? Yeah? So, uh,

720
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: partition is something that took place in ninety seven and

721
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Speaker 1: it basically started when Britain was like, Hey, we don't

722
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: have any money, we can't control India anymore, so we're

723
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: going to give India independence. And so within these conversations,

724
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: like other politicians came about and so they were like, well,

725
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: if India is going to have independence, like other people

726
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: would want a separate country that's Muslim majority, and you know,

727
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: all of that is all very complicated and there's like

728
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of dates and documents and things like that,

729
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: but basically it was a super rest decision and a

730
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: lot of the decisions that were made were not thought

731
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Speaker 1: of with like what is best for the people who

732
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Speaker 1: are living here, but what can we do to get unscathed?

733
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Speaker 1: And what I mean we I mean the British and

734
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Speaker 1: they just really messed it up in a lot of ways.

735
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Speaker 1: You know. The per and that they chose to make

736
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: the boundary line was a lawyer who had never been

737
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: to India before, had five weeks to to separate the country,

738
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: never visited communities, and you know, like I said he

739
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: had five weeks, and you know, naturally he burned the

740
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: documents before he left and then got an award when

741
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: he came back. So um, yeah, so that happened. And

742
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: it's and a lot of the history that is out

743
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: there talks about the men involved, So you get a

744
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: lot of Gandhi, you get a lot of Mohammad Ali Jina,

745
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: who's the founder of Pakistan, and Jawahala Nehru, who's Prime

746
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Minister of India, and like all that's fine, but it's

747
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: also like that's not the story I want to hear about,

748
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and that's basically the stories that we have. And it's

749
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: and because of this decision, you know, like independence was

750
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: announced and it's called like it happened at midnight, So

751
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: August fourteen would be pakistan Independence Day, in August fifteen

752
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: would be India's and it was the seventy five anniversary

753
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: last week. And but the boundary line was announced two

754
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: days after independence, so people didn't know where they were

755
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: supposed to go or like what's happening, So there was

756
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: all this confusion and and like all this kind of

757
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: like panic and so because of where those boundary lines are,

758
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people found themselves like in the wrong

759
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: part of the country. They're like, I'm a Muslim and

760
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: I'm in a Hindu majority area, I need to move.

761
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: I'm an Indian, I'm in a Muslim majority area. I

762
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: need to leave. And there's also other religions there as well,

763
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: like Seeks and I'm sure many other ones that quite

764
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of research that I've seen that

765
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: talk about other religions. And so there was like this

766
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: mass migration. Over fourteen million people were uprooted. One to

767
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: two million people died. You can maybe compare it to

768
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: the Trail of Tears in the United States, something a

769
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: little similar. Another forced migration, and there was a lot

770
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: of ensuing violence, and like I said, like the British

771
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: just got to leave. You know, I'm sure the Muslim

772
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: and Indian Pakistani politicians, I'm sure I didn't like that

773
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: this happened. But it's also like to me, it felt

774
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 1: like a lot of personal agendas got in the way

775
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: of trying to make a solution. And I'm sure there

776
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like a perfect solution, but I feel like

777
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: if they actually put in time and effort, it would

778
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: have been a little bit easier. I think and maybe

779
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: not as much bloodshed, but that's you know, neither here there,

780
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Speaker 1: But that's basically what happened, and it's event that's really

781
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, alive today. It's it's something that we can

782
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: trace back to for why Indian Pakistan have such a

783
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: volatile relationship with each other and can kind of speak

784
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: to the present atmospheres in those countries right now, like

785
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: India is going through like a surge of nationalism with

786
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: their prime minister. So it's something that really affects everyone

787
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: of future generations. Yeah, right, And it's it's like you're said,

788
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: like about the ignorance around it, right, I grew up,

789
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, having an American education. You hear like you'll

790
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: hear maybe one or two things about India, maybe one

791
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: thing about Pakistan. From there, I'm like looking at a map,

792
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's like they're right next to each other.

793
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: I know. I knew nothing of the partition until I'm

794
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: not joking. Maybe when we started doing the Next Up

795
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: thing and I was hearing about what your show was about,

796
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: and I was I was like, damn, I mean I

797
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: knew that something happened, but that's not that's not something

798
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: I had access to him because of just my media

799
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: diet wasn't something that I ever had the curiosity for

800
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: because I had no idea how much of a like turbulent,

801
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: like chaotic moment that was. And it is wild to like, you, look,

802
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: we have so many things like this where just depending

803
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: on your proximity to it, it can be something that

804
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: is like not even a thing that enters your mind,

805
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: or something that is generational trauma that you have to

806
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: set out and explore to try and sift through to

807
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: try and understand yourself better. Yeah, and all of my

808
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: education was done in Texas, which is a whole notother conversation.

809
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: But it's like that's not really stuff I'm gonna hear,

810
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: you know. It's like I've spoken to a lot of

811
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: people when doing the podcast or just having casual conversations,

812
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: and it's really the thing that they remember is Gandhi

813
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: being a pacifist standing up to the British and it

814
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: was like a happy ending. But that's not really what happened.

815
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, you recently found out

816
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: about it from what you remember from like our conversation

817
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: from like a year ago, but that's not uncommon, you know,

818
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: so many people who are my age, like their parents

819
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: don't talk to them about it, their grandparents don't talk

820
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: to them about it. And if no one talks them

821
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: about it, and you're not taught about it in school,

822
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: like where you're going to learn this information and like yes,

823
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: like I obviously knew that Pakistan used to be a

824
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: part of India, but it wasn't until you know a

825
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: few years ago where I was like, wow, like this happened,

826
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: like where I really found out like the really dark

827
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: history behind it. Yeah, there are there's I think anecdote

828
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: I either heard in your show or you know in

829
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: reading I did from like just listening to your show,

830
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: like an anecdote of like a family learning that they

831
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: had to flee when like a friend of theirs was like, yeah,

832
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: you will be killed tomorrow in your home if you don't,

833
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: if you don't like move to this new country that

834
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: didn't exist a week ago, and like packing up, moving

835
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: to a new place you've never been before and the

836
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: border closes behind you. It's just you know, an amazing story,

837
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: a horrifying story, like the sort of thing that you

838
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: know really fires the imagination and it's like very just

839
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: hearing the stories in your podcasts like so so vivid

840
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: and and relevant to the world that that we're living

841
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: in now. And yeah to to you guys point, I mean,

842
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: it was happening around the same time that we were

843
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: learning about the Holocaust, and you know, widely considered one

844
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: of the most important events of the twentieth century. But

845
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: as you point out, there's no at least in Western culture,

846
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: there's no like Schindler's List, There's no like central kind

847
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: of definitive narrative. Like It also reminded me of how,

848
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, the Saudi Coalitions atrocities and bombings and Yemen

849
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: that people ignored, well they were worrying about and like

850
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: putting up signs saying like pray for Ukraine and stuff.

851
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, just two parallel atrocities, but more

852
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: because of white supremacy, right, And that's I don't I

853
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: don't like outright kind of say this, but I do

854
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: mention with the podcast, I hope that people have a

855
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: new and better understanding about refugees and immigrants, because it's

856
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: very hard to become a citizen in this country. I

857
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: became a citizen when I was twenty five, and I

858
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: spent all but eight months of my life in the

859
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: United States, and you know, with like Ukraine, there was

860
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: like like you said, like this outpouring of support, which

861
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: is amazing. Obviously they need our help, but that wasn't

862
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: the case, like when Syrian refugees needed homes, Like I

863
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't think the UK was particularly happy that

864
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: they were there, you know. So I want people to

865
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: care about refugees, immigrants, other people who don't look like them,

866
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: you know, right, And it gives and I think, I mean,

867
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: the show is amazing because it gives you, you know,

868
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: like you can read about the things that have happened

869
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: in history and they will affect you in one way

870
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: the times and like you hear your grandfather speak, or

871
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: your dad reading his words, or your mom, like just

872
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: hearing people speak like what their memories and experiences are,

873
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: it's very easy to try and put yourself in that

874
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: place when you're hearing like another human beings just very

875
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: simply talk about like the terrible things they saw amidst

876
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what what country they needed to

877
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: being or not being. And I think like a really

878
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: powerful part of it is just we we look at

879
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: so many things, like you know, just like the idea

880
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: of this lawyer who drew the who drew the boundaries

881
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: and knew nothing of this place that he was like

882
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: splitting up, and the idea that like there are people

883
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: who are making decisions in this such abstract way. It's like,

884
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: hey man, you've got five weeks to make this new

885
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: fucking board. And then how that translates down to the

886
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: human level, and based on where you are in the

887
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: decision making process, it's gonna affect you in different ways.

888
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: That lawyer he probably doesn't even know like a fraction

889
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: of how terrible people's existences were because of that. And meanwhile,

890
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: you're we we see that trickle down to the actual

891
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: human beings who are now suddenly like I don't know

892
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: where I where I belong suddenly, Yeah, And I think

893
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: he I think he had an idea because he had

894
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: written a letter to his nephew saying basically how he

895
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: was never going to go back and because there's gonna

896
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: be like he's had a very large um like this

897
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: number of millions of people looking for me, and quote

898
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't want them to find me is written down

899
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: in a letter. And he didn't take his like fee

900
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: for the job, and I'm like, you're a why Lory

901
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: in England, Like You're fine, Like this was probably like

902
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: like an icing on top of the cake situation for

903
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: you that wasn't gonna like make or bake you make

904
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: or break like your life there. But yeah, it's just

905
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: crazy And like I can understand in certain circumstances how

906
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't know anything might be beneficial, but this

907
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: is literally dividing a country, Like you have to have knowledge.

908
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: This isn't like, hey, we need we need like a

909
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: non biased opinion on what this outfit whatever, like you know,

910
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: like very different. Yeah, when it leads to physical like

911
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: people disrupting people in physical space, that's fucking violence, no

912
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: matter what way you look at it. And as benign

913
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: as you may think, the endeavor is to do it

914
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: without without that consideration. Yeah, you end up in a

915
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: situation I had no idea where the guys like, yeah

916
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: I have, I've up and displaced millions of people who

917
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: would probably now would want to see me dead. Yeah

918
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: yeah you I mean you you just talked about like

919
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: finding out about it kind of relatively late in life,

920
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: and the lack of sort of this definitive narrative that

921
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, popularizes the story and like puts it in

922
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: people's imagination. But I do want to talk about because

923
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: you you talked about finding out about it at a mall,

924
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: but it was an installation by an Academy Award winning

925
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: filmmaker at a mall, which I had never heard, Like

926
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was that was a thing, But

927
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: that's what kind of brought it alive for you. And

928
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: so it does feel like I don't know that that

929
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: was something I found inspiring. Is that like there's this

930
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: art and journalistic counterpoint to the active forgetting and the

931
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: burning of documents by that lawyer, And you know your

932
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: podcast being a great example as well of that like

933
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: counter that like counter balance of like inspiration and creation

934
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: that you know is the opposite of the forgetting. But

935
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: can you can you describe the the installation and just

936
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: that moment of of kind of discovering. Yeah, So, because

937
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: we don't really have like bars and like that kind

938
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: of nightlife in Pakistan or at least like widely know,

939
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: the malls kind of act as like the nightlife there.

940
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: So they're open really late, like the food court into

941
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: like one am, like you can go shopping at like

942
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: eleven pm. Which is awesome. That's really cool, and so

943
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: like the mall kind of has like a different epicenter

944
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: vibe than it does like here. So I think I was,

945
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, just curious about like what stories I had

946
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: in the mall, and that's kind of when I stumbled

947
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: upon this exhibit, and I was familiar with the filmmakers

948
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: were Her name is Sharmine Obey Chionoy. She's a two

949
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: time Academy Award winner. I believe both of her works

950
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: can be seen on HBO. One is called Saving Face,

951
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: which he co directed about acid attacks, and the second

952
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: one is a called Girl in the River at the

953
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Price of Forgiveness, which is about honor killing. So very

954
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: heavy stuff but very important. And I saw that she

955
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: was doing this and I'm like, oh, I want to

956
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: see this, and I think I just kind of was like, oh,

957
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: she's doing this. I want to see what it is,

958
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: but not really grasping like like what the exhibit was

959
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: actually about, Like I knew it was like Indian Pakistan.

960
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's cool whatever, and then like I

961
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: go in here and I'm just like what is it.

962
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: It's like totally just like in shock, you know, like

963
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: there was from what I remember, there was like kind

964
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: of like maybe not different rooms, but like different sections

965
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: of things. So there was like some VR stuff. There

966
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: was objects that people took with them, you know, like

967
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: interviews with people, and you know, very it was kind

968
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: of very interactive, and you know, like my parents, I

969
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: was just watching them go by, and it's it was

970
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: so different because like they're aware of this story because

971
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: this was like their parents history, and then I'm just

972
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: going here like like like just having like a you know,

973
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: like open mouth experience, like like what's happening? And you

974
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: and I talked about this in the first episode where

975
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: they there's a question where it's like what would you

976
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: take with you if you had to leave your home?

977
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: And you know, I mentioned that my mom is not

978
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: like I'm going to participate, Like no, she's not like that,

979
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: like you know, she's not gonna like let me write

980
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: this down. And the fact that she was so moved

981
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: by the exhibit she felt compelled to write something down,

982
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: which ended up being a picture of her family, to

983
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: me was like very poignant, very special, and it was

984
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: really there in the mall food court where I was

985
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: like asking my parents, like what is this, Like can

986
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: you tell me about it, and like I said, it's

987
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: that's very common for people who are in my age

988
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: because they're still so much to unpack there. And you know,

989
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: I actually talked to my mom about it the other

990
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: day because I got this review of someone who was

991
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: just so shocked that I didn't know until I knew,

992
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: and like, jokingly I told him. I told my mom, like, oh,

993
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: this is your fault, like obviously as a joke, and

994
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: she was like, no, like, you're right, you know, we

995
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: never thought about it. And you know, like I said,

996
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: we're immigrants. My parents main focus when they came to

997
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: the United States was to survive. Like we came here

998
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: with like I have a sister. They came here with

999
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: two kids, eight suitcases, and they were like, how are

1000
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: we going to make this work? And that's like the

1001
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: stuff they were dealing with. So I don't think it

1002
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: ever really occurred to them to be like, let me

1003
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: sit you down and talk about partition, because it was

1004
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: just like so many other things they were worrying about.

1005
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: You know. But it's like people I've interviewed, you know,

1006
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: whether they're my age or from a different generation, it's

1007
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: they're like I found out with the book I found

1008
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: out because I took a college course or I saw

1009
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: this seminar, or I saw this movie, like it's very rare.

1010
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: That was it was like, oh, my father told me this,

1011
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: and it's you know. I also think it's like a

1012
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: cultural thing where I feel like we don't really talk

1013
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: about I'm a sensitive person, so I'm always talking about

1014
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: how I feel like most people aren't really most Asian

1015
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: and Asian cultures are not out really talking about their

1016
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: feelings and having discussions and like all these kinds of things.

1017
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: So like we just kind of keep them, yeah, unless

1018
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: it's gossip, like no one's interested, you know. So like

1019
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: so it's like they keep those emotions at bay. And

1020
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: I've kind of compared it to the Farewell, like the

1021
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: Lu Lu Wong film, which I don't know if you'll seen,

1022
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, so the caricter's named Aquafina, like her grandmother

1023
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: is sick and like her family's like, we're not gonna

1024
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: tell her, and she's like what people have to tell her?

1025
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Um and you know, diagnosis, Yes, a party for her,

1026
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: but tell her that she's going to die. Yeah, And

1027
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm like I was like, this is what that felt

1028
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: like where it was just like, here's this big part

1029
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: of your history that we just you know, whether on

1030
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: purpose or not, just never got around to telling you.

1031
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's wild. How like I feel like relatable,

1032
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: Just like that concept is if you come from like

1033
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: a aspect, community or just anything where there's generational trauma.

1034
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: It's like like I remember doing a book report about

1035
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: the Great Depression, or had to do a report on

1036
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: the Great Depression. I asked my grandfather, who was alive

1037
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: in Chicago during the Great Depression. I said, what was

1038
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: it like? He gave me the most flowery version of it,

1039
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: and then like it wasn't until later on when I

1040
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: was like an adult, I was like, what, like, what

1041
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: was it really like? And he really had trouble really

1042
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: talking about all of it because it was so fucked up,

1043
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, we got we got through it.

1044
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, like there was some bad it was it

1045
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: was really it was bad. You know, we didn't have

1046
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: a lot and there was a lot of uncertainty. But

1047
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: it shows like at times we we don't always have

1048
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: a full understanding of our own history, and sometimes it

1049
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: is hindered because of the fucked up ship that people

1050
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: went through and yeah, and like it's a whole other

1051
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: process of like wow, like I have to have the

1052
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: empathy for like my relatives who are like not being

1053
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: upset like this is how could you keep this from me?

1054
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: But also seeing that as like damn, this is this

1055
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: was the human life that they lived. And it's like

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Speaker 1: you hear about the perseverance but not about like the

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Speaker 1: actual like struggles. Yeah right, yeah, And how you mentioned

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Speaker 1: like nine eleven happening when you were a child being

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Speaker 1: like part of the story of why you didn't have

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Speaker 1: like the bandwidth to focus on like that, let's let's

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Speaker 1: own own our trauma and you know like that you know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're living in a like very white Texas suburb

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Speaker 1: and you know, just trying to survive, like even to

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Speaker 1: that degree like that, I found that to be really

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Speaker 1: really interesting. Yeah, like we're I'm eleven years old, like

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Speaker 1: on the end, like I don't know if we knew

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Speaker 1: for a little bit of time, but I know like

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Speaker 1: when a parent was there to pick up their kids,

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Speaker 1: like there would be an announcement like so and so

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Speaker 1: come into the principle's office like your mom's here, and

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Speaker 1: we just kept hearing a lot of those things, and

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Speaker 1: then I think, like we finally got the news about

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Speaker 1: nine eleven. And then of course, like even to this day,

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Speaker 1: like when something happens, I'm like, I hope it's not

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Speaker 1: a Muslim, Like I hope some Muslim who did this whatever.

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Speaker 1: And then it's just like weird because you're eleven years old.

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Speaker 1: I literally don't know anything. I'm in sixth grade, and

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Speaker 1: like people start treating you differently. You know, people have

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01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: these views of like what is considered good and what's

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01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: considered bad, and it's like, how are you as a

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Speaker 1: child supposed to reckon with this information? And also again

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Speaker 1: like living in the society that I did, like anything

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01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: that made you different you're supposed to suppress. And I

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: was just like I don't really I was like, I

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: don't really know anything about my culture. I don't really

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Speaker 1: care to at least at this point. Like it was

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Speaker 1: more I'm not gonna say embarrassing for me, but more

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Speaker 1: just kind of something I had my guard up about.

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Speaker 1: So like something as simple as like we're invested by

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Speaker 1: my parents are arguing and or do about like a

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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: TV and I'm like, I'm not going to be a

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01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: part of this conversation, Like I'm just going to go

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01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: over there, or like the food that your parents packed

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01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: you for lunch, like I said, like I wasn't having

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: like here's like a thing of green beans or whatever.

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: It was like here is like ethnic food that usually

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: has a very strong smell, you know. So it was

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Speaker 1: like a lot of those things where I'm just like

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't think I really want to mess

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01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: with this, and you know, and I don't think it

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Speaker 1: really was until I moved to Austin and went to

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Speaker 1: ut where a lot of that changed. Well, it's a

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01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: great podcast, Like I said, it's you know, doing the

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01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: work for I think a lot of people that that

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01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: that installation in the mall did did for you. So

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01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: everybody should should go check it out and you know,

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01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: recommend it and review. It's so I mean, I can't

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01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: say that enough. It's really it's so well done. I was, Yeah,

1109
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: everybody absolutely should listen to this if if you have

1110
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: like any inkling of curiosity about it, which you should

1111
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: because like I said, I can owe my my own

1112
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: almost near total ignorance about the topic, and that made

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01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: the listening experience so much more, Like I'm so much

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01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: more absorbed in it. Because I'm like, I need to

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01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: understand like every single thing you're saying, like right now,

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: and it's told in a really fantastic way. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: congrats for sure, it's a fantastic show. Where can people

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Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Yeah? So

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Speaker 1: you can follow me on Twitter at nay Haazee's thirteen.

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on Instagram at nay How has these?

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Speaker 1: The podcast is pod on Twitter and Partition podcast on Instagram? Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work

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Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, so I kind

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01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: of been earlier. I saw this tweet and I thought

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01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: it was really funny. But it was like that me,

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01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: we're like the girls like explaining something the guy at

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01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: the concert or whatever, which got tired very quickly. But

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Speaker 1: I thought this was funny. It was by Alison Herman.

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01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: She's a writer at The Ringer, and she said. HBO

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01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: is a premium cable network. HBO Max is a streaming

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: service that houses content for many brands, including HBO. All

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01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: HBO series dream on HBO Max, but HBO Max series

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01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: don't air live on HBO. Both are owned owned by

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Speaker 1: Warner Brothers Discovery which plans to merge HBO Max with

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Speaker 1: another streamer, and that's where which I think it was

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Speaker 1: really I think it was a very like like because

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01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: when people heard about all this discovery stuff and they're

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01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: just like what, like they didn't really know much like

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01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: when HBO Max was launched, there like what is this?

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01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: Because it just not to be mean, it wasn't marketed

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: very well and HBO Max is not an appropriate name

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: for what that network was because it does house like

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01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: things from Turner Classic movies and other entities of Warner

1144
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Meat Up, and they just used it for their brand.

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01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just really funny to me, and I

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01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: think people are just trying to figure out. People who

1147
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: aren't in like an entertainment film TV into three field

1148
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: are just trying to figure out like what this means

1149
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 1: because I think I saw, like today, like a couple

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01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: of animated shows aren't getting released anymore, and it's just

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01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: like it's just like it's so sad and that's like

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01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: years of people's lives. On the other hand, HBO Max

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01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: does both include that it's a you know, combination of

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Speaker 1: HBO and Cinemax and also it borrows on the success

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Speaker 1: of Pepsi Max, which was one of the great marketing Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just too good. I haven't thought about that, and I

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01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: don't even know how long like to the Max. It's

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01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: not cool anymore? Guys, what are we What are we

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: doing here about Pepsi? What about HBO two thousand? Wait

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Speaker 1: a second? What extreme HBO to the max? That just

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: reminds me of like water guns and how like crazy

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01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: god with Like here's the Super Socer seven thousand. That's

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: like that reminds me of and I remember being like, well,

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: what you can a pig with it? Like it goes

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Speaker 1: seven thousand feet? Right now? That's what that is what

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: they told you though, that was what that was. The

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01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: lesson that I learned was that, oh man, I got

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Speaker 1: the Super Soper thirty. It goes thirty ft. But then

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Speaker 1: like this dude one super the super Socer one, and

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01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: you can actually put out a fire down the street

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: with that thing. Man, it's oh they actually use it

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01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: at slaughterhouses. Yeah, they shoot him out of helicopters during

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Speaker 1: forest fires. Sure, Miles, where can people find you? And

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: what is the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray check us out

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01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: on the basketball podcast Miles and Jack got Man because

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01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: we do and we like basketball. Uh. And also, if

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Speaker 1: you want to hear me talk about just my favorite

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: reality show ninety day Fiance with another immigrant kid, Sophia Alexandra,

1180
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 1: check out four twenty day Fiance. That's a fantastic show.

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01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: Some tweets that I like. The first one just to

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01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: go along with your HBO Max screaming girl in the

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01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: dude's face at the Rave Pick. Past guest Kate Hagen

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01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: actually tweeted something that actually went viral because she was

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01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: also speaking about the situation with streaming, and her version

1186
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: was with an all caps obviously, because that's how all

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Speaker 1: these memes are. Streaming only creates the illusion of infinite choice.

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: In fact, our access to films hasn't been this tenuous

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Speaker 1: since the pre home video era. The average blockbuster carried

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Speaker 1: about three times as many films as are currently streaming

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: on Netflix. Physical media is more important than then, Yes

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Speaker 1: it is. Another tweet I like is from Adams Serious

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Speaker 1: at bro brow tweeting tweeted me, I need a passport

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: so I can go to Australia. Clerk, have you ever

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: been convicted of a crime? Me, is is that still necessary?

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: I thought fantastic? And last one at Honda c RV.

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Speaker 1: The third tweeted, fuck a breakup. Have you ever realized

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Speaker 1: one of your friends was kind of a terrible person? Yeah? Yeah,

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: that ship is wild. That's a breakup. A break up

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Speaker 1: with that friend. Absolutely a couple tweets I've been enjoying.

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: Massey tweeted the season finale of the rehearsal just fully

1202
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: convinced me that child actors should be illegal and that

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01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: Nathan Fielder deserves both jail time and an Emmy. And

1204
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: I I felt that that that ship made me go

1205
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: hug my kids. Man. That was It was like one

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Speaker 1: of the darkest episodes of television I've seen period, but

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Speaker 1: also like great. I will not be shaking that series

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01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: anytime soon. It's like a whole new type of I

1209
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't even know what to call it.

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01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: Janelle Como tweeted, Honestly, human history makes a lot more

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: sense when you remember how many of the major decisions

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: were made by nineteen year olds who drank wine for breakfast. Uh.

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01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: And I don't recommend New Yorker cartoonists very often, but

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Speaker 1: Asher Pearlman who's also a writer for Colbert, tweeted a

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Speaker 1: cartoon that he put up with, which is a dude

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Speaker 1: leaving a room that is fully engulfed in flames walking

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Speaker 1: into a room with a fire extinguishers saying, shoot, I

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: know I came in here for a reason. Yeah, that

1219
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Speaker 1: is a good encapsulation of the modern condition. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the

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01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

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Speaker 1: and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where he post

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Speaker 1: our episodes and our foot note we link off to

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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? I think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna like this track from the most This You

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Speaker 1: Fee trio. They are like a German trio, but they're

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: they're playing like new jazz kind of hip hop kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. So this track throwback does sound like a

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: throwback of some like boom back hip hop boom bath,

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Speaker 1: not boom back boom bath hip hop. J Dilly, might

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Speaker 1: I say really nice synthes Synthesizer is good drumming bass playing.

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Speaker 1: So this is called throwback by Moses. You Fee Trio

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01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: got the j Dillity stamp from from the look. They

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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: like their's little syncopatient. They're like all going rhythms. You know.

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Speaker 1: Well the daily's like you guys. The production by Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcast from my Heart Radio is the heart

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Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your

1241
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Speaker 1: favorite shows. That is going to do it for us

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01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: this morning. But we're back this afternoon to tell you

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Speaker 1: what it's trending and we will talk to ya right