1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous podcast. It's another recap, but the Bachelor 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Mansion takeover. This time three contestants who were previously eliminated 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: get to compete for a chance at redemption and a 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: spot in the finale. Now, Ashley's not with us today, 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to break this down with our producer, Heather. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Ashley is not with us because well, she has a 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: big week of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island press 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: and interviews and media, and as a result, we are 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: blessed and honored to have Heather with us today breaking 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: down this episode. Heather, what did you think? 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: This didn't feel worthy of an episode. To me, this 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: felt like it could have been condensed down to a challenge, 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: and that's kind of how I feel. What do you 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: think of this episode? 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: It's confusing because you know, obviously the guy, Sam, Dean 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: and Noah get the week off and they bring in 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: three people for a redemption. I do like that idea, 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: especially with Chris. 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: I think Chris was and then they said it throughout 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: the episode. I think Chris was arguably the most talented 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: person there who never really got a fair shot at 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: the competition because he was eliminated based on I think 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: just the fact that he was like one of the 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: Goldens and these guys are all friends and he kind 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: of he just never had his go at it. So 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: I do like that. I think it was a good twist, 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: and it's a fun twist, and it's a fair twist. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: I'm with you, though, this episode dragged in a lot 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: of ways because there just wasn't a lot happening. And 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: again my critique of this whole season is that we 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: don't necessarily get the highlight, Like we don't see a 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: lot of the build out and the grit and the 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: the met mistakes. That part has taken out, So the 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: renovation part of this is really not shown if you, 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: I think, watch the episodes as much as the final product, 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: and there's so much time spent on the judging of this. 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: There is, I agree. It's like we see the judges 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: go and critique it, and then they go back and 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: they tell the contestants the critique all over again. It's 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: like it's so it's too much, it's too much of 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: the same same Towards the end of every episode. 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: It feels that way to me. Maybe other viewers would disagree, 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: but it feels like it's a lot of repetitive language 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: and a lot of I mean, it was very obvious 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: this episode how it was going to end up. The 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: critique still seem very much like a personal opinion more 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: than you know, craftsmanship or there's like a lot more 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: stylistic critique, which is fine. 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: Did you think that Chris was the only one who 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: got pointed out for his functionality of his bar? I 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: felt like everybody should have had that note if it worked. 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: Or not right. I mean, that seems like an important 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: element when it comes to a bar, as the functionality, 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: So what makes I guess I wanted to clear a 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: picture of what actually makes the bar win more than 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: just personal opinion. Because you can put a new paint 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: color on very easily, you can build a roof over 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: the top of one of these very easily. I think 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: I wanted a clear understanding as a viewer of Okay, 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: here's who's gonna win based on how they accomplished the 64 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: goal set out for them at the beginning of I'll 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: use your language this challenge. But here's how the episode 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: set up. Jesse doesn't enter the room until the three contestants, Sam, Noah, 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: and Dean that they do have the week off that 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: they're going to bring in three people who've been eliminated 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: from the show in the past to have a redemption opportunity. 70 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: If they win this specific challenge during this episode, one 71 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: of them will be able to move move on to 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: the finale, which will happen next week. The three people 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: invited back Courtney, Tammy, and Chris. They are brought back 74 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: based on the judges Tasha and Tyler's opinions on who 75 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: maybe needed a second shot, who maybe got the raw 76 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: to the deal, or who was showing progress and promise 77 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: and needed that second shot at redemption. So the guys 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: that are currently still on the show have a week off. 79 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: The three of them start the challenge. The challenge is 80 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: this Heather. The challenge is to build a bar for 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: the outside area. Now, this bar, during my time on 82 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 2: the show was very, very sporadically used. I hardly remember 83 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: having a bar there. I think part of that is 84 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: because when you're the bachelor or the lead, somebody's bringing 85 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: you drinks and you're not necessarily going to the bar 86 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: to order drinks. But during Caitlin season, I don't remember 87 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: a lot of moments at this bar. It does that. 88 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: It does feel to me like there needs to be 89 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 2: a bar out there. It's a big element of the show. 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: Do you remember your bar being so easily mobile as 91 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: these ones were that they popped up? I mean this 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: was just some two by fours with some tiles put 93 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: on them, essentially at the end of the day. 94 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: I actually think, and I could be totally wrong here, 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: but if I'm pulling back memories from my memory bank, 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: I remember the bar being a catering service, so it 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: was one that could make real ends. Yeah, wheel in 98 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and wheel out. There was no bar that I remember 99 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: actually being built or that was permanent. But it's always 100 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: great to have a pool bar, I think that. I mean, 101 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: this house is set up for that, and so this 102 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: outdoor area is now complete with the pool bar. 103 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: But is this the pool or is this the terrace 104 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: out in the front yard? Like near where is this terrace? 105 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: I guess is this located near the fountain in the 106 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: front yard. 107 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: No, it's at back the pool. So on the pool 108 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: there's a terrace off the side of a bedroom that 109 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: we never saw during the show. Okay, and it's a 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: really beautiful area. The property. Actually, it's a pretty wide 111 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: open area. You come out those sliders that you see 112 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: so many people walking out during the show right off 113 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: of that like living room, and it would be right 114 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: to the right of that would be where this bar 115 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: looks like it's gonna sit. That would be my assumption. 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: I think it'd be weird to have a bar in 117 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: the front yard, right. 118 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: I guess I was trying to get my bearings on 119 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: this mansion. I didn't realize that pool area was so vast. 120 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: It's a huge pool area. The property itself is massive. 121 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: I mean it. It has a house like there's like 122 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: a guesthouse across the driveway from the main house. This 123 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: is a big piece of property in a. 124 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: Beautiful made over. The guest house like. 125 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: I've never seen inside of it. In fact, I think 126 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: a little tidbit, I think Chris Soles actually lived in 127 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: that house while he was the back That. 128 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: Would actually be very interesting if the bachelorette or the 129 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: bachelor lived on the property, we would get a lot 130 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: of those knock on the door moments I think late 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: at night with contestants that we've seen happen more so 132 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: on the travel episodes. 133 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I mean it so big piece of property, 134 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: big pool area. They're going to elevate this pool area. 135 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: The challenge is to build a bar to make it 136 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: functional for this pool area. We'll start with let's start 137 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: with Chris. 138 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: Don't forget they also have to make a signature cocktail, 139 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: which then they never get judged on. 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, that's true. It all has to match 141 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: the vibe of the bar that they build. And Chris, 142 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: I do think when it comes to putting together his bar, 143 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: his craftsmanship was shown. He is working on it, he 144 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: is focused, and he is making it a beach theme. Now, 145 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: one element I might have missed this that would have 146 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: been very helpful, because I I love the idea of 147 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: your pool area feeling like you're on a beach. It 148 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: feels like you're on vacation. It's separate from the design 149 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: of the house. You sit at this bar and you 150 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: feel like you've escaped, even if it's one hundred yards 151 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: or ten foot from the house that you're living, and 152 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: you feel like you've escaped to a different place. So 153 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: when Chris says, hey, I'm gonna make this a Caribbean 154 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: style bar, I personally am like, yes, that's what I 155 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: would want. It might not fit the aesthetic of the house, 156 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: but personally I like the idea. 157 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: I agree with you, what is this challenge? Is this 158 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: challenge to be innovative or is this challenge to make 159 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: a bar that fits into the theme of the house, 160 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: Because they didn't say either way, but in the past 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: they've been telling these people to make bold design choices, 162 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: to do something that represents them, and it seems like 163 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: really what they wanted it was just a bar that 164 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: kind of fit the theme of the house, which was 165 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: not conveyed to any of the contestants. Because I'm with you, 166 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: I would like something that is bold and stands out, that. 167 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: Can get weathered and as at weathers it actually is 168 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: even cooler and it shows the age and the grip 169 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: behind it. I also think the comments that you know, 170 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: mostly focused on Night one or the cocktail parties of 171 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: The Bachelor, for me, seem like a secondary thought. This 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: is still a functioning house where people are living in it. 173 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: This is not a house built for the show. Even 174 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: though this is the Bachelor Mansion takeover. This is still 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: a house that people live in and breathe in and 176 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: move in. 177 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: Oh you mean just in the season or outside of 178 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 3: the season. 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: Because I don't side of the season. 180 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: I don't think people live there anymore. 181 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: It's I think it's airbnb then, and at some point 182 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: it probably will become somebody's house, right, The Bachelor won't 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: take over this space forever. 184 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: True. 185 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: And so if we're building this for people at the 186 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: pool in cocktail dresses, that feels like a miss to me. 187 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: How often is his house actually having people in suits 188 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: and cocktail dresses by the pool? 189 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: I agree, that's a good point. 190 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: So Chris's bar is built with the Caribbean theme. He 191 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: gets a lot of critique for his sign that really 192 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: wasn't even built by him. They showed up the next 193 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: morning and the sign was already built and they had 194 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: to glue it together and paint it. Yeah, but the 195 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, for the most part, the way that the 196 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: letters were cut out, I'm sure they had to say 197 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: in that. But the sign itself, if it was on 198 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: driftwood or if it was on you know, a piece 199 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: of plywood, didn't. We didn't see that. That was a 200 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: decision they got to make. So, you know, take that 201 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: for what it is. But he does get a lot 202 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: of critique on something that he actually did not have 203 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: a hand in putting together other than the gluing and 204 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: the pain of the sign. Also something out of all 205 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: the bars, out of all the elements of a bar, 206 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: the sign was definitely the easiest part. It probably took 207 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: that dude an hour to put all three to cut 208 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: out all three. So but that's where Chris gets a 209 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: lot of critique that his functionality is high. They said, 210 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: it's the most functional space of any of the bars. 211 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: From what we understand. It also has a lot of 212 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: good shade. So when you know, when you're sitting in 213 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: the hills of la and the sun is baking down 214 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: on you and it's hot and it's dry, this bar 215 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: did give the most coverage for shade. So it was 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: the most enjoyable from what I was hearing to sit at. 217 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: And then we have Courtney's bar. Cortney's bar is called 218 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: Liquid Courage. Her bar is beautiful. I do think with 219 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: Courtney the big miss was, I don't know how you 220 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: have an outdoor bar without a like a backing to 221 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: your shelving. There's wind, there's weather again, and every time 222 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: the wind and weather picks up, I don't know if 223 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: you want to be running out there to throw all 224 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: of your drinks and cups and glasses underneath the bar 225 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: or inside, so you do need some protection. And I 226 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: was with Sean. I think Sean was the one that 227 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: gave the critique that the back shelving mate like he 228 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: couldn't understand it, and it made me nervous watching it, 229 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: thinking how many times somebody would be having a good 230 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: time put a bottle up there and it falls off 231 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: and the glass breaks in a pool area where people 232 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: are barefoot. That was a miss. But the overall look 233 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: of her bar was what they called sexy, and I 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: do agree it was sexy. It looked like if you 235 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: could sit it in the basement of a home, put 236 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: it up against a wall, it would really elevate the space. 237 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say with Courtney's. Out of the three, 238 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: hers I think was the most scaled back in terms 239 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: of design. I felt like the others went a little 240 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: bit more detailed, whether it was lighting, whether it was 241 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: you know, extra things that they had on the bar, 242 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: and hers was really paired back. She did say she 243 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: was going for a simplistic look because that's what she 244 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 3: got complimented on in the last challenge, which she ended 245 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: up getting sent home for but I think, yeah, for 246 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: this element of a bar it was, it was missing, 247 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 3: just it needed a little bit more to feel complete 248 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: for sure. 249 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked for an outdoor bar. It just looked 250 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: a little bit incomplete. But it also was beautiful. Yes, 251 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: the simplicity of it did stand out, and I do 252 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: think overall it looked more like an inside basement bar 253 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: to me. In fact, Chris is the only one that 254 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: looked like a pool bar to me. 255 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, I agree with both of those statements. 256 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: If I was a judge on this show, I think 257 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: one of my biggest concerns when it comes to an 258 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: outdoor bar is how is it going to weather? You know, 259 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: what is going to weather about it? It's gonna sit outside. 260 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: This thing's not moving around often at all, and so 261 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: is it going to be able to hold up to 262 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: the conditions and the elements that exist outside. That's a 263 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: huge part of functionality to me, and really a part 264 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: if you're a judge on the show that we should 265 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: have been talking about is does this look like a 266 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: bar that can exist, you know for more than twelve 267 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: months outside. The final bar was Tammy's Bar. Tammy's Bar 268 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: is definitely the most complete and it is. It takes 269 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: the elements of Courtney's bar and I think elevates it 270 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: to a level that is beautiful. It's a gorgeous bar. 271 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: It is wonderful and I'm going to sound like a 272 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: broken record, but how is it going to stand up 273 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: to the test of time with the elements outside? 274 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: Also, it just felt like another extension of the Rose 275 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: Room or the mix. Like it didn't feel like a 276 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: big swing in terms of design. It had arches again, 277 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: it had the same color as we've been seeing. It 278 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: just felt like and I know the judges came at 279 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: her and were like, where are you in this? In 280 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: this like design, but it's like Chris is all over 281 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: his design and you didn't end up going with that one. 282 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: So I didn't really understand this challenge and what the 283 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: judges were looking for, but I did. I do agree. 284 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: I liked in her arch that she put spotlights like 285 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: those kinds of details I thought were really nice. 286 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a beautiful bar. In fact, all 287 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: three of these are wonderful. I think I at the 288 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: end of the episode was a little confused on are 289 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: we picking the most beautiful barm? Like? Is that the 290 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: challenge here, like the one that like is aesthetically pleasing 291 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: and that makes it look like you're sitting in a 292 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: hotel lobby, you know, having a drink. Or are we 293 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: picking an outside pool bar. That's where I'm getting confused. 294 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they chose the one that most looked 295 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: like the house. That's what I think they did. 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: And maybe in my ideal world, I wish that would 297 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: have been said at the beginning, like, I take swings 298 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: right for your design, but also, here is the lane 299 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: that we're judging upon is does this fit the aesthetic 300 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: of the house, Does it fit with the overall themes 301 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: that we've been going with the whole time, or does 302 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: it not? Because if not, if that was the judgment 303 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: and that's what they were judging on, I don't think 304 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: Chris goes with a Caribbean theme. I think he was thinking, Hey, 305 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: this is who I am, this is what I think 306 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: of when I think of pool bar. Let me do 307 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: a pool bar in the way that I envision it 308 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: and see it and do it to the best of 309 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: my abilities. But there wasn't a clear guideline here what 310 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: the actual judging was going to be about. And I 311 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: think that's maybe a theme throughout this whole season. Yeah, 312 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: is that there's too many points where I'm like, that's 313 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: amazing and great, and they choose the thing that feels 314 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: safe or whatever. The judges kind of come to a 315 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: consensus on what they were looking for. I wish there 316 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: was more guidelines on the design. Yeah, I agree, that 317 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: would have been helpful during this whole experience. Sam, Noah 318 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: and Dean again have the week off. They decide to 319 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: work out because they have all the free time in 320 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: the world, and they're a little bit angry, and it's funny. 321 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: I wonder fans will pick up on this. I was 322 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: watching Dean, you know, act like he was so mad 323 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: that there was in these contestants coming back in and he, 324 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: trust me, Dean was not mad. He at all was joking, 325 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: very much joking, but they tried to. I think the 326 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: show actually tried to make it look like he was 327 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: actually upset. 328 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: I think the show was really trying to make them 329 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: look all upset. They kept asking them and kept having 330 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: them sit down the interview being like, oh, I'm really 331 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: upset about this. It's like these guys don't care, no, 332 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: they're at all, They're having a good time. It's like 333 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: even they made Sam be like, oh, it's hard to 334 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: like enjoy my first victory of this whole season when 335 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: these people are coming back. It's like he doesn't care, guys. 336 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: No, he's getting the SoundBite that you need. And Dean's 337 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: is hilarious because if you watch it and you know Dean, 338 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: you know his sense of humor, and you know he's 339 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: like just saying it to say it and singing in 340 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: the most ridiculous way like I'm so angry. Yeah, and 341 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: he's not. But I do think viewers will watch it 342 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: and be like, oh, Dean was really mad. 343 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: I feel like Dean was like smiling and laughing he was. 344 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: It was like almost like scary because if he was 345 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: actually mad and that's how he communicates anger and he 346 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: smiles through it, You're like that feels really off. But no, 347 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: he's fine. He's doing what he does. These guys are 348 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: hanging out for the week or for the day two days. 349 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: I think that they're jazzed on that that they don't 350 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: have to pick up a hammer. They are doing cannonballs 351 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 3: in the pool and then they like to come over 352 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, look at this bar. They're like 353 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: looking at the bars being built, but they don't care. 354 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: No, Wow, they're having a blast at this point in 355 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: the season. All three of them are just hanging out together. 356 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: They're happy to be there and they're glad to have 357 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: a few days of downtime exactly. But that's what these 358 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: guys choose to do, and they know that one of 359 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: these contestants who win will be joining them in the 360 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: final four in the finale that is next week, So 361 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: the judges come out and judge each of these bars. 362 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 2: We bring in Bachelor Nation favorite, Bachelor Favorite Sean Lowe 363 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: to the house, who does have a huge background in 364 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: design and furniture. 365 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Is that like a known thing 366 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: that Sean makes furniture. I didn't know that. 367 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: I don't think he makes furniture or designed furniture. Yeah, 368 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: he has a partnership with a company. In fact, the 369 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: basement in my house right now is a Sean Loh 370 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: and Catherine Lowe sofa that we've had since it was 371 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: their wedding gift to us, which is very kind Wow, 372 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: years ago, and it's a wonderful piece of furniture. But yeah, 373 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 2: I think pretty much after the show he got this 374 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: deal and it's must have worked out for both parties 375 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: because it's been a long deal and Sean does a 376 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: lot of like VC investment. I think he does probably 377 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: have some rental homes. I know he also has invested 378 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: in some fast food restaurants and probably helped the design 379 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: of those. It makes sense on you know, why he's 380 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: there and kind of his eye for things. So he 381 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: does show up to join Jesse, Tasha, and Tyler this 382 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: week they go to each bar. We've talked about a 383 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: lot of the feedback already Heather on each bar, but 384 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: was there any feedback I think that you strongly agreed 385 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: with or disagreed with. 386 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 3: I think, just going back to the functionality of Chris's bar, 387 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: that that all made sense once Tyler kind of pointed 388 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: out the things that decisions he'd made in terms of 389 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 3: the layout. And I think when you pointed out the 390 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 3: fact that Courtney's bar didn't have a backing and how 391 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: problematic that could be, I think that that's I agree 392 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: in that feedback as well. I guess my big question 393 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 3: mark is on Tammy's and what they loved about it. 394 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: When they said basically that they didn't see her in 395 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: the design, was a little surprising that that's the one 396 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: that they ultimately went with. 397 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I mean, I'm not taking anything 398 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: away from Tammy and her bar and her design, or 399 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: her bar and her design, and Chris and his design. 400 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: They were all great. I just don't know what they 401 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: were judging upon, because this is what we're told they're 402 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: judging upon design. Okay, don't know what that means, right, 403 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: design for an outdoor door bar or designed to match 404 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: the house. 405 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: I think it means design in terms of, like, they 406 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: don't want something sloppy, right, you don't want something that's 407 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: crooked or like exposed. That's what I think when I 408 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: hear like being judged on design, like the perfection of 409 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: of the actual whatever the design may be. 410 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So all three of them accomplished that goal, right. 411 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: The design of all three of them was well done 412 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: for the design that they were wanting. I do think 413 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: the only one that we could probably dock for design 414 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: was Courtney just because of the functionality, and it wasn't sloppy. 415 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to put that word behind it, but 416 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: I do think it was not thought through of how 417 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: this bar could actually function in the outdoors. The next 418 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: was execution. I don't know what that means. 419 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: Execution I would think goes into the functionality element of 420 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: like how it's laid out. 421 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So all three of them in a way made 422 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: that happen because we only heard them comment though on 423 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 2: Chris's functionality and saying how well done that was, And 424 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: so maybe we give him a heads up there and say, hey, 425 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: you're at this point in the lead. 426 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: Creativity, I feel like that's so broad. I mean, everybody 427 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 3: has to create eight something out of nothing in this challenge. 428 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: So and creativity meaths in a lot of ways, thinks 429 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: going outside of the norm, going outside of the box, right, 430 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 2: thinking of something that is not maybe expected, or something different. 431 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: I do think Courtney's and Tammy's bars most aligned in 432 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: terms of aesthetic and style and thought. Chris's bar did 433 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: stand out because it was so different than theirs. And 434 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: the final judgment was concept, what is the concept here? 435 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: And I think all of them had some very creative 436 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: ways to do the concept. Chris is called dark and stormy, 437 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: so he makes a dark and stormy drink. Courtney's bar 438 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 2: is highlighted by a drink that's a spicy jalapino jalapino 439 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: rose drink, and The name of her bar is remind 440 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: me here liquid Courage, Liquid Courage again, high marks on 441 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: both of those things, and tan Ammy's bar is a 442 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 2: little more sophisticated. The name of her drink is the 443 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: Killer Kiss. It's a mescal drink that she shares with 444 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: the judges and Jesse. 445 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: It looked fancy. When she revealed the drink, it was 446 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: like whoa. She was like in there, like mixing it 447 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: up like a real bartender and like all smokey. I 448 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, props on that. But then they weren't 449 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: judged on the drink, so I was like, there's a 450 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: lot of fluor for nothing. 451 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: Yes, Tammy does win this competition, Heather, And I'm not 452 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: going to say she didn't deserve it. I think she 453 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: did deserve it. That's not the point here. I just 454 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: don't know necessarily how she won. That's what I wanted. 455 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: I wanted to watch it. What I love in a 456 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: renovation show HGTV is a go to for me. Renovation 457 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: show is watching the process unfold and being able to 458 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: be like, Okay, that's a hit, that's a miss, that's 459 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: a hit, that's a miss, based on what I know 460 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: from the show, going into it, or. 461 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: When they put a design idea into motion and it 462 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: flops midway through and they have to pivot, and how 463 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 3: they make that pivot. That's always really interesting to watch 464 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: as well. 465 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 2: You're right, this didn't have that. We just kind of 466 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: have the bars being built, the judges, and then the 467 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: final say which is Tammy wins, which means Tammy goes 468 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: on to the finale. I do think she's a force 469 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: to be reckoned with during the finale. 470 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: I could see any of these people in the finale. 471 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: I think that's what is like difficult about this is 472 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: like they could all be in there and I would 473 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: be like, that's a great contender to be in the finale. 474 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: I I'm very curious watching the preview for the finale 475 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: that we're told that they're going to renovate the kitchen, 476 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: which is cool and needed. The kitchen has a really 477 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: cool look to it right now, where when it was 478 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: built they brought in some it looks like really old 479 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: refurbished like almost driftwood that they've stained and painted and 480 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: made in the cabinets. It is a cool look. It 481 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: could it could use maybe like a redo, just based 482 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: on time and you're spent of those cabinets being slammed. 483 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: I'm very curious though, how they're going to judge the 484 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: finale if they're all working within one space. 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's going to be like somebody's in 486 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: charge of the island, somebody's in charge of like this 487 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: set of cabinets, somebody's in charge like the backsplash and 488 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 3: the appliance is somebody's gonna be in charge of probably 489 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: the stove area and like that section. Yeah, but I 490 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: agree with you, it is. It's it's going to be 491 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: a hard room to divide up for four people. But 492 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 3: I do like that we're finally seeing stuff smashed. I 493 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: didn't seen that this whole season, and we're seeing them 494 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: smashing countertops and smashing through the cabinets, and so I'm 495 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: excited to see some stuff actually get broken in this house. 496 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. My only question to you, Heather, is I mean, 497 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: I've redone our kitchen's countertops, replace them. Smashing was not necessary, Like, 498 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: it wasn't the way that you remove a nice piece 499 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: of granite. Yeah, and those countertops were really nice pieces 500 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: of granite. They can be reused, they can be cut down, 501 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: they can be refurbished. 502 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: That is true. You don't have to smash the countertops. 503 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: You just kind of like remove them. Why are they 504 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: what are they smashing? Then they're smashing. 505 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: They are smashing the countertops, and it's like, wait for 506 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: a renovation show. You, yes, you want the drama of it, 507 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: but you also want to do things in the way 508 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: that you would do them in your real life. I'm 509 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: confused on why they're smashing the countertops, quite honestly, because 510 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: that is one of the most the least efficient ways 511 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: because the glue still sticks and. 512 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: Now it's a lot of pieces you have to pick 513 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: up and dust you have to pick up. 514 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't necessarily fit when it comes to demo. 515 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: Demo in a lot of ways is surgical. It's fun 516 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: to see people take a sledgehammer to things. That's not 517 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: the way demo works most of the time. So I'm 518 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: watching this something this is unrealistic, which here I watch 519 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: HTTV because I want the realistic picture the best they 520 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: can for TV of what a renovation looks like and 521 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: how they do it. And I like to learn from 522 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: watching it to say, Okay, there's a technique I can 523 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: now use and utilize for when I maybe want to 524 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: do something like this. Anyways, just my thought, it's like 525 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: it's probably a little bit too detailed, But that's me 526 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: watching it and saying, hey, that feels very aggressive and unnecessary. 527 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: And whoever owns this house now might love the opportunity 528 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: to sell like a five thousand piece or five thousand 529 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: dollars piece of granite to a manufacturer to cut down 530 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: and reuse that. I mean for me, I think, and 531 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a bargain. That's where I can get 532 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: my money back. 533 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: Who do you think is going to win this season? 534 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: It's really all how this kitchen is set up. You 535 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: asked me that question. I think it's all how the 536 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: If it is just like building things, I do think 537 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: Dean and Sam have the advantage if it is design focused. 538 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: I think Tammy has the advantage. If it is kind 539 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: of like a utility knife a universe, like, hey, how 540 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: is this whole thing going to go? And how are 541 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: you navigating the process, I think Noah has the advantage. 542 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: So I don't know again, and that's part of the 543 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: frustration I think is I don't know who the best 544 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: player is because I don't know what they're being judged upon. 545 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: Yet. Yeah, this is true, it's not been a linear 546 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: kind of competition for anyone, and having them be paired 547 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: up versus only doing individual challenges towards the end has 548 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: also been tricky to kind of follow and navigate of 549 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: whose skills are where. I will say, I really do 550 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: love that Dean is the only one so far who 551 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: has built his own things that we've seen, whether it's 552 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: custom art or custom furniture. So I'm excited to see 553 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: what kind of custom thing he brings to this kitchen 554 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: challenge because I think he's going to do that again. 555 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he should, He's incredible at it. Yeah, So 556 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: I don't know who's going to win. I would one 557 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: to mean, obviously, I love Dean. I'd love to see 558 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: him walk away with the two hundred and fifty K, 559 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: one hundred K, hundred K. But I don't know. It's 560 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: all up in the air on what this whole finale 561 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: will look like. It is the finale next week of 562 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: The Bachelor Mansion Renovation show. The Bachelor Mansion Takeover. Tammy, Noah, Sam, 563 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: and Dean are left standing. In the previews were told 564 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: that they're going to redo the kitchen overall. Heather, I mean, 565 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: we're wrapping up this season, and as the world knows, 566 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: we thought we were gonna have other seasons to be 567 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: breaking down during this time. This has been a I 568 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: would say, I know I've been critical today. It's been 569 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: a good spin off of the show. Like I've enjoyed 570 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: seeing these characters come to life in a way that's 571 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 2: outside of dating and seeing who they are as people 572 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: and seeing them a little more relaxed because it's not 573 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: so stressful and there's not so much emotion that there 574 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: has been obviously. But I've enjoyed the idea of this spinoff. 575 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: I think it could have been executed in a way 576 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: that's a little bit better. Mostly for me, I want clarity, 577 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: and I want some of the lole like awkward moments 578 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to the judges to be cut down. 579 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: There's so much repetitive feedback and so much repetitive language 580 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: that it gets a little bit drawn out. But for 581 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: the most part, I've enjoyed this spinoff, and I do 582 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: think it is replicable in the future, and I would 583 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: watch it gladly if maybe my own personal again, my 584 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: own personal biases could be you know, solved when it 585 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: comes to clarity and walling in language. 586 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Overall, this show had a really great 587 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: concept to it. I feel like the end goal should 588 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: have been less about this upcoming season of The Bachelorette, 589 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: and I think people would have been more invested if 590 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: the goal was to make this property, yes, beautiful, but 591 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: also you the viewer now get a chance to stay 592 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 3: at the Bachelor mansion in what room are you going 593 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: to stay in? And like if they had done that, 594 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: and we know that HGTV has done like dream home renovation, 595 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact name, but the whole point 596 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: was that you as a viewer could win a stay 597 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: or win a chance to like live in the house 598 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: for like a year or something. Don't quote me, but 599 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: I know HBTB has done contests and things like that 600 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: in the past, so I think that would have been 601 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: more fun. And I just wish that the drama was 602 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: less manufactured feeling, and I wish we would have been 603 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: able to see more people from Bachelor Nation come in 604 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: and pop in, whether it's oh, you're doing a bar thing, 605 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to have Wells Adams pop in and actually 606 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: mix up the drinks and serve them and hang out, 607 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: and Wells is going to judge you on your drink competition, 608 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: or you know, I'm going to have some other people 609 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: from Bachelor Nation come and mingle at each one of 610 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: these bars and try the drinks. I don't know, I 611 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: just feel like a As much as we're seeing some 612 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: of our favorites from past seasons, there's so many more 613 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 3: people that could have been incorporated into this show. That's all. 614 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: If only there's a way, If only there was a 615 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: way to bring back people from Bachelor Nation that we've 616 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: learned to love and follow and grow up with on 617 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: a show that fits where they're at in life and 618 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: fits who they are in life, and that brings out 619 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: their biggest and best personalities. If that only there was 620 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: a way, Heather only, if. 621 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 3: Only that show existed, I'd watch that show. 622 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: I'd watch that show too. Hey, we aren't breaking down 623 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 2: the Bachelorette, obviously, but we are beginning to break down 624 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: the real Housewives of Rhode Island. And I am very 625 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: excited to announce a very special co host during this breakdown, 626 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: one that will be really fun for everybody listening, be 627 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 2: really fun for me. Somebody that is talented and skilled, 628 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: Somebody who is close enough to the situation to be 629 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 2: able to speak about it in a way that nobody 630 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: else can. But you're gonna have to listen to the 631 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: first episode of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island Breakdown 632 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 2: to find out who that person is. She's been chosen. 633 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: I will say it's a she. She's been chosen. She's 634 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: in waiting, she's prepped and ready to go, and so 635 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: am I to start breaking down our beloved Ashley I 636 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: in her debut on The Real Housewives of Rhode Island. 637 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: It's kind of weird to think Ashley I is a 638 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: real housewife. 639 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: I can't wait for you and your special co host 640 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: who's not me, to break this down because this is 641 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 3: going to be your first experience watching housewives, right Ben. 642 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: This is like you being introduced to the world, which 643 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: I think is so fun. As somebody who's obsessed with housewives, 644 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: it is insane to see Ashley in this new environment, 645 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: this new world. I will say, I already seen the 646 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: first episode and I love it. I am super excited 647 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: to watch this season and watch you get to see it. 648 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 3: I'm excited for fans to get to see ash new element. 649 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 3: It's all going to be, I think, really interesting to 650 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 3: play out. So yes, that will be coming later this week. 651 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's like we've been talking about this for 652 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: forever and now it's here. 653 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we hit it for so long, right, Ashley was 654 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: away and not always on the show, and then it 655 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 2: was announced and then there was like all this lull 656 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: and kind of limbo stage and now it's launching. I 657 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: will say I am personally very excited, and I love 658 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 2: the preview of them doing the like have you ever 659 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: or whatever game that's called you hold up to five 660 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: fingers and you never have I ever, never have ever, 661 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 2: and they're like, had a threesome and Ashley's like all 662 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 2: five fingers. I you know, that's part of my storyline. 663 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: I can't not wait to see her navigate this to 664 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: the personalities. Come out to watch the drama unfold. It's 665 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 2: gonna be great. So tune in here to the almost 666 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: famous podcast. It's gonna be right here where we begin 667 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: to break down the real Housewives of Rhode Island. I'm 668 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: ready for it. Yes, we're missing a Bachelorette season or 669 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 2: a bachelor season whatever was supposed to be filming during 670 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: this time. That's a bummer, But it doesn't mean we 671 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: take a break, and it doesn't mean we still don't 672 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: bring you great content. The Real Housewives is a huge franchise, 673 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have the most exclusive, most detailed, and 674 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: most excited breakdowns right here on the Almost Famous podcast. 675 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: So until next time, I've been Ben, I've been Heather. 676 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: I see y'all. 677 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast on 678 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.