WEBVTT - Pheasant Hunting with a Trad Bow 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:04.040 You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network, brought to 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:07.600 you by Lacrosse Boots. If you guys haven't checked out 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:12.040 the new Navigator series from Lacrosse, I strongly suggest you 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.600 do that. Two really good boots within that Navigator series, 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.560 the wind Rose and the Atlas. If you want to 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.680 find out more information about all of the boots that 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:27.280 Lacrosse offers, visit their website Lacrosse Footwear dot com. You 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:34.760 won't regret it. My name is Clay Nucleman. I'm the 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.680 host of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.159 your host into the world of hunting the icon of 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:47.920 the North American wilderness Prepare. We'll talk about tactics, gear, conservation, 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.720 but will also bring you into some of the wildest 0:00:50.760 --> 0:01:04.920 country on the planet chasing bears. Last week, Brent Reeves 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:10.560 and I went to Greensburg, Kansas to hunt pheasants. We 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.920 didn't take shotguns, but we took the traditional bow and 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.520 a camera. This podcast is about what we learned while 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.280 traditional bow hunting pheasants over German short hair pointers. We 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.080 talk about the gear, the gear failure. We talked about 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.479 the difficulty, we talked about the fun, We talked about 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.360 pointing dogs and so this is kind of a off 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.080 topic podcast, but it's a lot of fun and you 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.440 can check out our video on the Bear Hunting Magazine 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.320 YouTube channel. 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We are in in Wichita, Kansas, and I'm 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:10.560 with my buddy Brent Reeves, and we're doing something that 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:15.639 we typically find ourselves doing this time of year, which 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:23.160 is looking for something to hunt that is different, that 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:28.040 is maybe not different. But you know, we've we've come 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.040 through the fall hunting seasons and it's still deer season 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:37.640 in Arkansas. It's duck season in Arkansas, but there's no 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.600 ducks in Arkansas and uh, and we can still do 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.240 a little bit of deer hunting and probably will. Our 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.520 deer season lasts through this This is a leap year, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:52.760 so lasts through February twenty nine. But but this is 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.360 the time when we're doing some really turning our attention 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.800 to small game in a lot of ways. Yeah, I've 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:07.040 got some squirrel hunting plans in the near future. Um, well, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.760 this is the time last year when we uh squirrel 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:17.680 hunting on mules with a tray. Yeah. So what we 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.839 did though this year is, uh, we came to Kansas 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:28.400 for one day to hunt pheasants and not not just 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:33.920 pheasant hunting, but we were hunting with a traditional boat. Yeah, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.760 and Brent was Brent was here with me. Brent was filming, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:43.680 and uh, I had seen in different places where guys 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:49.440 were we're hunting pheasants with tread bows, and I had 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.440 no idea Brent, if I could hit one or not. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:05:00.200 I remember a month ago, three weeks ago, whatever was 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.719 when you called me and he said, hey, man, you 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.760 think you'd be up for a trip to Kansas shoot 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.479 some pheasants. And I'm like, yeah, I'm in. And you said, well, 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.960 I'm gonna do it with my boat. And I said, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:17.000 what has possessed you? Did? I want to do that? 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.599 Because when immediately when you said go to Kansas and 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.400 pheasant hunt, I thought, well, we're gonna do some We're 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:31.040 gonna shoot some birds. We shotguns, That's what I mean. 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:35.240 Who wouldn't think that? So I was taking them back. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:40.960 But I did it. Man. I understand well that the 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:46.040 genesis of it was that I saw a guy on 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.760 social media for a guy that I know that had 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:54.520 I had just a a bunch of quail. They went 0:05:54.520 --> 0:06:00.360 on a quail hunt in Missouri and they were that 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.799 he he'd quail hunted. And man, it's been so long 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.800 since i've been on a good quail hunt. I asked 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.599 him where he went, and uh, and he and he 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.520 went to some place up the Missouri and they were 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.200 they were pen raised birds that they put out for him. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.080 And nothing in any way against that. I've been on 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.320 those kind of hunts, but I was I really wanted 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.360 a wild bird hunt. That's what was in my mind. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.400 And then I started. Uh. I saw something on YouTube 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.320 where a guy shot a pheasant with a traditional bowl, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.520 and I just thought, well, man, what if we pheasant 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:39.600 hunted and up the game. We're gonna We're gonna we're 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.720 gonna use the trad bow. And um, I had no 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.320 idea if I can hit if I could hit one, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.279 But now I do because we went over here for 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:54.760 a day and um we were here for a day. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:59.000 And what I said was, I believe if I have 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.559 twenty shot at pheasants, I believe I could hit one. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.839 That is what I said. I had no basis for 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:12.520 that other than that. UM, you know, I'm I'm just 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:17.280 a decent traditional archer. But I feel like I had 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:22.800 a I've shot enough that I that I and they've 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.600 shot at some moving targets and stuff that I just 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.240 I just felt like I could hit them. And uh, 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.240 well you even you even talked to the outfitter and said, 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.160 you know what when you were setting it up, you know, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.400 what's the what's the chances of getting you know, how 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.360 many shots do you think I could get during the day? 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.880 And you came up with the number. You know, you know, 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.040 if I could get twenty shots, I think I can 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.800 do this, you know, And it seemed like a legit 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:55.080 number to me as well. Yeah, and here's the here's 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.240 the truth about it too. I've not been shooting my 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.560 traditional bow. I mean I haven't shot it much in 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.560 the last two months. You know, some guys are shooting 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.840 their bows all the time, and and I just don't 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.480 do that at the you know, I pick up my 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.640 bow for portions of the year. And there's some guys 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.760 that that shoot their trad bows all throughout the year, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.400 you know, not going more than a couple of days 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.960 without shooting it. And uh and I've just I've just 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.720 never done that. Usually, I'm I'm picking the bow up, 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.040 you know, sixty days before a hunt, and and and 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.840 and and shooting a lot. And I found that I 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.800 can be pretty accurate for big game out to fifteen 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:43.760 eighteen yards by doing that and doing it right and 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.360 and haven't had any trouble killing game that way, but 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.000 this one kind of snuck up on me and uh, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.880 gonna go shoot pheasants. So I don't know how to 0:08:54.880 --> 0:09:00.520 break this to everybody, but today this originally started out 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.960 as a two day trip as well, this is gonna 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.520 be a two day hunt. Well we trimmed her down 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.040 to where it was just a one day hunt. So 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.360 we drove six hours, got here late last night, hunted 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:19.040 all day, and we're back on the road tonight. Well 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.679 ask you, there's forecasting for some pretty rough weather coming 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:28.320 in and didn't really Yeah, rain and snow, which really 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.000 inconducive to you know, a good film and the weather. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.280 So we thought, well we can if we can get 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:37.240 on the birds, you know, and one day we'll we'll 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:41.320 knock it out. Today. Let me uh, let me first 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.160 start by talking about the gear that I was using. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.520 I was using a timber Ghost traditional boat G three 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.560 S S, which is the superstatic. The S S stands 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.600 for superstatic, the G three stands for Generation three, So 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:01.199 it's Kent Roberts third generation of this style of three 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:06.640 piece takedown bows. The superstatic Brent means that those radical, 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:12.679 super radical limb tips which give it extreme performance. Like 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.960 that bow is one of the fastest bows on the 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.959 on the market, on the traditional market. So I was 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.920 shooting a timber ghost G three SS at fifty two 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.520 pounds at inches and I probably draw it twenty seven 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.880 and shooting snapshooting pheasant, I was probably drawing at twenty 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:36.880 twenty six inches. And we I had a dozen flu 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:42.640 flu arrows built with five inch fletchings helical four fletched 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.680 flu flues. I had a dozen made because I figured 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.400 that I was gonna lose some arrows. Well, I remember 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.679 us talking about it too, you know, And in one 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.800 of the conversations after we decided, you know, we're going, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.640 that was my question. I'm like, arrows. I mean, I'm 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.199 an archer, but I'm not a traditional archer. I I 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.760 shoot a compound bow, which actually is only sixty only 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.079 eight pounds more than what your tread bow is. But 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.120 we got to talking about arrows, and I was like, dude, 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.400 what kind of broadheads are you going to use? Flu 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.520 flu eras? And are we gonna be able to pack 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.080 enough eras in the vehicle that we go up there? 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.840 For you to if you envisioned arrows just like stacked 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.600 to the ceiling. I envisioned them to be scattered all 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.520 over Kansas, is what I envisioned them to be. And 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.640 after a day of shooting, we did not lose a 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.240 single raw, not one arrow. It was the guide was 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:41.920 absolutely impressed with that. We didn't lose a single areas. Man, 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.599 he said, we did not lose a single area of 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.760 the day. That's pretty that. I was impressed with that. Yeah, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.319 So what I did so I had these flu flu 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.000 arrows built. And for those who wouldn't know what the 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.319 flu flu is, the flu flu is a is a 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.040 arrow with about a three inch fletching that like three 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.280 inches from the shaft to the tip up at the 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.560 fletching five inches long. And so they make basically these 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.640 big wind veins that slow the arrow down. So the 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.120 raw comes out of the bow hot comes out fast, 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.600 but then it uh but then it it The feathers 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.520 slow the arrow down. There are four veins on it too, 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:26.080 well four feathers. They're not veins, yeah yeah, yeah, and 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.600 they they I'm testing them getting this worked out here 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.839 there we go. So there are four of them. And 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:39.840 but I was shooting those uh guillotine turkey heads, which 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.520 ended up being our demise. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.080 and tell you that was a mistake. Uh So they're there, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:53.600 these three bladed heads that have straight razor blades that 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.320 are about two and a half to three inches long, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.120 and there are three blades and they just have kind 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.200 of a like a like almost like a field points 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:07.240 center with three blades that stick off at ninety degree 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.079 angles to the shaft of the era. Is that a 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.720 good description. That's pretty good. And my my theory was 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.800 that it would be a big areas about you know, 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.720 the broadhead ultimately is about his the circumference of a baseball, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.000 and so as opposed to just like a single blade 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.480 or a regular blade broadhead that would have like an 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.600 inch cutting diameter like this would be about the size 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.720 of the baseball. And I thought, well, if I clip 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:40.400 a wing or if I hit a bird somewhere, it's 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.920 gonna it's gonna take him down and the dog is 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.920 gonna be able to get the bird. Well, that ended 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.839 up being a mistake using those and we would late 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.600 we would find out later in the day. But to 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:57.240 make a long story short, I got thirty five. I 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:02.440 shot thirty five times today at han on camera on 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:08.559 camera thirty five shots. Um the outfitter. We're with um 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.880 good guys up here in Kansas. We're hunting with with 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:16.760 a guy that was using German short hair pointers. Awesome dogs. Man. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.880 I love anything any time that you're hunting or I'm hunting, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.040 if there if there's a dog involved in it, a 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.200 good dog, a trained dog. It enhances the experience so 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:34.240 much and it just there, it just brings extra something 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.720 to the hunt that it's just hard to describe, you know, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.040 especially if you're a dog lover, if you like dogs, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.080 if you like hunting dogs, dogs that are are bred 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.240 too to do a job. And when and when they 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.040 get out there and you get to experience it with 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.160 them and watch them do it, it's and and if 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.400 you know a little bit about dogs, even just a 0:14:55.400 --> 0:15:00.000 little bit, you it'll impress you how how they utilize 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.400 them and how you a dog's that you can see 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.240 a desire that they love what they're doing, you know, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.880 And it was it was really cool. Yeah. So he 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:14.560 had he had four German short hairs that he rotated 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.360 throughout the day and basically we were hunting these big 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:23.800 CRP fields which would just look like hay meadows, you know, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:29.000 that would vary in grass height from like like grass 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.480 maybe just above your knee to grass almost up to 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:37.800 your chest at different times. And these big CRP fields 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:42.080 just this part of Kansas just super flat, and there 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.080 would be roads cut through the CRP where they were 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.720 driving up and down the roads, just farmers and whatnot. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:53.040 But they also had strips of Milo um that had 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.080 strips of Milo that were put there to feed pheasants, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.760 and so like there might be two d and fifty 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.120 yards of c RP and there'll be a strip of Milo. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.840 Two hundred forty yards of c RP and a strip 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:11.280 of Milo. Yeah, like more were those things ys wide? 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:17.160 Twenty yards wide? That's right. And uh so we were 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.800 just hunting these little milow strips. And what was amazing 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.960 to me is that you would see these pheasants out 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.600 in the milow. It was almost like a spotting stock 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.400 pheasant hunt. Yeah, I really was. And uh these were 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:35.360 wild birds, they were They were wild birds, but a 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.440 lot of them, some of them were incubated birds, which 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.920 I didn't know anything about. No, that was a new 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:45.840 one on me. They called them surrogated birds, and they 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.960 explained the way the guid explained to us. They put this, 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:55.240 I guess it's a brooder, but it's a box. It 0:16:55.320 --> 0:17:02.360 was probably five ft wide, um maybe the same, Yeah, 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.679 about five ft wide probably yeah, eight foot long and 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:12.360 maybe ten inches deep. They had a heater or in it, 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.640 and water and food in there, and they put those 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.000 chicks in there, and those pheasant chicks in there when 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.880 they are one day old, and they take these things, 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:26.359 they take them out in springtime to coincides with the 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.200 same time of the natural hat, the natural hatch, so 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.640 and you know, predators can't get get get to them, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:38.040 and there's no human interaction with them whatsoever. That everything 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.199 is automated. And after five or six weeks, depending on 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.160 the weather. He said that in five weeks, they would 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.119 turn them loose if there wasn't a lot of water 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.520 on the ground, if it wasn't really wet, if it was, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.280 or if it was, they would wait a week later 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.639 and then turn them loose and put them out, and 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.239 they're just I mean, from then on it's you know, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:05.280 you're on your own. And so they basically they in 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.199 different parts of Kansas, they use these surrogate surrogate birds, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:14.200 I guess to to supplement the natural breeding populations of birds. 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.960 And uh, but these birds are raised wild, They've never 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.080 been handled by people. I mean they were, they were 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.840 wild birds. It was a little bit different than what 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.920 I thought. Um, and I and I think we had 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.040 kind of an unnatural amount of birds if I'm being 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.800 honest about it, which you know, more power to them. Um, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.200 it's a lot of we had a lot of opportunity today. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.680 And UM, but did I already say how many times 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.879 I shot? Are you sure I didn't. It's worth saying 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:54.240 again I shot. We'll hold on. Maybe I hadn't said 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.680 it yet. I've said it so many times I can't 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.840 remember if I said it on the podcast. So we 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.720 were talking about German short hair pointers. We were talking 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.640 about CRP fields and this Milo and uh and basically 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.280 we were we were the wind was blown from the 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.240 same direction most of the day, and so we would 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.360 approach these fields on the down wind side and let 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:22.600 the birds work into the wind and uh, the dogs 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:27.760 working to the winds. Excuse me, and the So for 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.440 those of you who might who might not have upland 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.840 bird hunted before, these are pointing dogs. So these dogs 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.920 are smelling birds. They're pointing and there literally with their 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.760 noses in their eyes, pointing to where the bird is 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.160 holed up. And then you walk in and flush the bird. 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.359 You you scare the bird and he erupts from his 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.960 from wherever he's hiding. And and that is wing shooting, 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.520 when you're shooting that bird when he's off the ground. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.920 And uh, in an ideal situation, Sian, you get just 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.840 this beautiful point. You have time to walk to the bird, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.760 you flush the bird, the bird gets up, and you shoot. 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:15.520 But these birds were pretty dern wild and pressured, and 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.639 so I I don't know if we could put a 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:24.080 percentage on it, but I would say that I bet 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.480 forty maybe thirty five percent of the birds that we 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:35.160 even shot at we're not a classic point in flush situation. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.680 You understand what I'm saying, Like, like, maybe the dog 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.640 would be working the bird, working the bird, and by 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.160 working the bird, it would mean that the dog would scent, 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.960 he would smell the bird. We would know there must 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.600 be a bird close by, watching the tail, by watching 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.280 the body posture this this bird dog, and we're like, okay, 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.520 there's a bird in here. Somewhere. The ideal scenario would 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.800 be he would lock up and be like, Bam, there's 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:03.040 the bird. But maybe the bird would get up ten 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.520 yards from the dog or fifteen yards from the dog 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.199 and and fly off. And sometimes we would get a 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:14.280 shot at that bird, and sometimes we wouldn't because um, 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.480 when the when the bird gets up from an unknown location, 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.199 that's when you're at a massive disadvantage, especially with the 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.359 boat or with a shotgun. Okay, now I would say, 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.200 you know, if I'm just guessing, I would say sixty 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:32.160 percent of the time it was a classic point. When 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.720 the dog is just rock solid on point, we go 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.679 in and flush the bird and we pretty much know 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.199 where it's coming from. Okay. I was coming into this 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:46.680 hunt with h with no knowledge of pheasants or how 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.400 they fly. I mean I was on YouTube the other 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:54.200 day looking for how pheasants fly. Um, And I'll tell 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.560 you what I learned today is that when a pheasant 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:03.560 is in pretty deep thick cover, like like chest high grass, 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.280 he's got to get some vertical jump before he starts 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:12.080 to really rock and roll with his wings to get 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:17.640 that movement away. And so the ideal situation for us 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.800 was to get a bird in real fix stuff, so 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.920 that he had to come up out of it, because 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:27.520 when he's coming up out of it going straight vertical, 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:31.560 he's not going real fast. Yeah. And there's also like 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:37.119 there's a moment like shooting uh a spring until on 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.920 a on a sport and clay range spring and till 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.600 is is the clay that goes straight up off the ground, 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.040 goes straight up in there, and then there there's a 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.280 moment in there. The best time to shoot that thing 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:51.720 is just it was when it hits the apex of 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.960 its flight and stops. Yeah, and that's when you shoot it. 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.920 And there and there when that bird comes up out 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.040 of there, there's almost a moment where he's tramping before 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:06.359 he transitioned from vertical flight to smoking it out of 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.240 the area going down wind. That that he's got that 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.280 little hesitation. And that's that was what we were looking 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.200 for to be able to shoot it with the bow 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:23.840 right right when you would spook went out of thin cover. 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.679 I felt like that they would just shoot out of 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.399 there like a rocket at a more steep angle as 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.480 opposed to a more vertical angle. Yeah, it was almost 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.680 like they were coming up and going into and going 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:39.480 down wind already as soon as they were just gone, 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.160 and they might they might not get more than five 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:48.080 feet off the ground. Also, the wind was blowing heavily today. 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:49.960 How fast do you think it went with it's fifteen 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.800 to twenty what it was forecasting, and I would say 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:55.960 it was ever a bit of it. So fifteen to 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.439 twenty mile per hour winds. And what these birds do 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.760 is they get up and they fly with the wind. 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:07.159 That so once they hit that wind current, bam, they're gone. Um. 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:11.720 So I didn't have much experience with with with pheasants, 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.919 or zero experience with peasants I had, I do. I 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.480 do have experience shooting quail with shotguns and shooting skeet 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.880 with shotguns, so that would have been my experience. I 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.640 did a little bit of practicing. I had my son 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.240 go out in the yard with me and with these 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:32.119 flu flu eras we were shooting that uh kind of 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.760 like coffee cans that we were throwing up in the air. 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.359 And UH had you know some success with that? Do 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.360 you think that helped you? I don't think it did. 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:49.919 I really don't. I mean, I don't know that it did, um, 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:56.359 but I don't know. It wasn't really that realistic. It 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:59.520 just kind of got you thinking about shooting a moving target. 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.879 I think that's probably the only thing that did. I 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.639 can tell you the best way to practice for a 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.800 hunt like this is just to go. Now. If I 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.919 was going back out tomorrow to do this again, I 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.479 think I probably would be better. I just don't know 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.200 how it wouldn't be. Um. You also might just get 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:22.680 lucky quicker, and then you would think you were better. Well, 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.679 I mean, any you know a muscle memory. You know, 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.560 it's just like shooting that tread bow. Now, you know, 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.680 you you just you work at it, and you work 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.280 at it, and you work at it until you get 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.960 proficient with it. So it may it may not have 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.720 been tomorrow, it may it may have been next week, 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.920 but you kept doing it, you would have figured it out, 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.879 and you man the misses that that you had is 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.280 and you could be able to see it on the 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:52.119 video some of them we're not. I mean, it was 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.399 the difference in the way the broadhead was turned exactly. 0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.720