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Speaker 1: traditional bow hunting pheasants over German short hair pointers. We
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Speaker 1: As we gear up and start thinking about spring, Bear hunting.
Speaker 1: We're gonna enjoy this podcast with Meat and my buddy
Speaker 1: Brent Reeves. We are in in Wichita, Kansas, and I'm
Speaker 1: with my buddy Brent Reeves, and we're doing something that
Speaker 1: we typically find ourselves doing this time of year, which
Speaker 1: is looking for something to hunt that is different, that
Speaker 1: is maybe not different. But you know, we've we've come
Speaker 1: through the fall hunting seasons and it's still deer season
Speaker 1: in Arkansas. It's duck season in Arkansas, but there's no
Speaker 1: ducks in Arkansas and uh, and we can still do
Speaker 1: a little bit of deer hunting and probably will. Our
Speaker 1: deer season lasts through this This is a leap year,
Speaker 1: so lasts through February twenty nine. But but this is
Speaker 1: the time when we're doing some really turning our attention
Speaker 1: to small game in a lot of ways. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got some squirrel hunting plans in the near future. Um, well,
Speaker 1: this is the time last year when we uh squirrel
Speaker 1: hunting on mules with a tray. Yeah. So what we
Speaker 1: did though this year is, uh, we came to Kansas
Speaker 1: for one day to hunt pheasants and not not just
Speaker 1: pheasant hunting, but we were hunting with a traditional boat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Brent was Brent was here with me. Brent was filming,
Speaker 1: and uh, I had seen in different places where guys
Speaker 1: were we're hunting pheasants with tread bows, and I had
Speaker 1: no idea Brent, if I could hit one or not.
Speaker 1: I remember a month ago, three weeks ago, whatever was
Speaker 1: when you called me and he said, hey, man, you
Speaker 1: think you'd be up for a trip to Kansas shoot
Speaker 1: some pheasants. And I'm like, yeah, I'm in. And you said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it with my boat. And I said,
Speaker 1: what has possessed you? Did? I want to do that?
Speaker 1: Because when immediately when you said go to Kansas and
Speaker 1: pheasant hunt, I thought, well, we're gonna do some We're
Speaker 1: gonna shoot some birds. We shotguns, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't think that? So I was taking them back.
Speaker 1: But I did it. Man. I understand well that the
Speaker 1: genesis of it was that I saw a guy on
Speaker 1: social media for a guy that I know that had
Speaker 1: I had just a a bunch of quail. They went
Speaker 1: on a quail hunt in Missouri and they were that
Speaker 1: he he'd quail hunted. And man, it's been so long
Speaker 1: since i've been on a good quail hunt. I asked
Speaker 1: him where he went, and uh, and he and he
Speaker 1: went to some place up the Missouri and they were
Speaker 1: they were pen raised birds that they put out for him.
Speaker 1: And nothing in any way against that. I've been on
Speaker 1: those kind of hunts, but I was I really wanted
Speaker 1: a wild bird hunt. That's what was in my mind.
Speaker 1: And then I started. Uh. I saw something on YouTube
Speaker 1: where a guy shot a pheasant with a traditional bowl,
Speaker 1: and I just thought, well, man, what if we pheasant
Speaker 1: hunted and up the game. We're gonna We're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna use the trad bow. And um, I had no
Speaker 1: idea if I can hit if I could hit one,
Speaker 1: But now I do because we went over here for
Speaker 1: a day and um we were here for a day.
Speaker 1: And what I said was, I believe if I have
Speaker 1: twenty shot at pheasants, I believe I could hit one.
Speaker 1: That is what I said. I had no basis for
Speaker 1: that other than that. UM, you know, I'm I'm just
Speaker 1: a decent traditional archer. But I feel like I had
Speaker 1: a I've shot enough that I that I and they've
Speaker 1: shot at some moving targets and stuff that I just
Speaker 1: I just felt like I could hit them. And uh,
Speaker 1: well you even you even talked to the outfitter and said,
Speaker 1: you know what when you were setting it up, you know,
Speaker 1: what's the what's the chances of getting you know, how
Speaker 1: many shots do you think I could get during the day?
Speaker 1: And you came up with the number. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: if I could get twenty shots, I think I can
Speaker 1: do this, you know, And it seemed like a legit
Speaker 1: number to me as well. Yeah, and here's the here's
Speaker 1: the truth about it too. I've not been shooting my
Speaker 1: traditional bow. I mean I haven't shot it much in
Speaker 1: the last two months. You know, some guys are shooting
Speaker 1: their bows all the time, and and I just don't
Speaker 1: do that at the you know, I pick up my
Speaker 1: bow for portions of the year. And there's some guys
Speaker 1: that that shoot their trad bows all throughout the year,
Speaker 1: you know, not going more than a couple of days
Speaker 1: without shooting it. And uh and I've just I've just
Speaker 1: never done that. Usually, I'm I'm picking the bow up,
Speaker 1: you know, sixty days before a hunt, and and and
Speaker 1: and and shooting a lot. And I found that I
Speaker 1: can be pretty accurate for big game out to fifteen
Speaker 1: eighteen yards by doing that and doing it right and
Speaker 1: and haven't had any trouble killing game that way, but
Speaker 1: this one kind of snuck up on me and uh,
Speaker 1: gonna go shoot pheasants. So I don't know how to
Speaker 1: break this to everybody, but today this originally started out
Speaker 1: as a two day trip as well, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a two day hunt. Well we trimmed her down
Speaker 1: to where it was just a one day hunt. So
Speaker 1: we drove six hours, got here late last night, hunted
Speaker 1: all day, and we're back on the road tonight. Well
Speaker 1: ask you, there's forecasting for some pretty rough weather coming
Speaker 1: in and didn't really Yeah, rain and snow, which really
Speaker 1: inconducive to you know, a good film and the weather.
Speaker 1: So we thought, well we can if we can get
Speaker 1: on the birds, you know, and one day we'll we'll
Speaker 1: knock it out. Today. Let me uh, let me first
Speaker 1: start by talking about the gear that I was using.
Speaker 1: I was using a timber Ghost traditional boat G three
Speaker 1: S S, which is the superstatic. The S S stands
Speaker 1: for superstatic, the G three stands for Generation three, So
Speaker 1: it's Kent Roberts third generation of this style of three
Speaker 1: piece takedown bows. The superstatic Brent means that those radical,
Speaker 1: super radical limb tips which give it extreme performance. Like
Speaker 1: that bow is one of the fastest bows on the
Speaker 1: on the market, on the traditional market. So I was
Speaker 1: shooting a timber ghost G three SS at fifty two
Speaker 1: pounds at inches and I probably draw it twenty seven
Speaker 1: and shooting snapshooting pheasant, I was probably drawing at twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six inches. And we I had a dozen flu
Speaker 1: flu arrows built with five inch fletchings helical four fletched
Speaker 1: flu flues. I had a dozen made because I figured
Speaker 1: that I was gonna lose some arrows. Well, I remember
Speaker 1: us talking about it too, you know, And in one
Speaker 1: of the conversations after we decided, you know, we're going,
Speaker 1: that was my question. I'm like, arrows. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: an archer, but I'm not a traditional archer. I I
Speaker 1: shoot a compound bow, which actually is only sixty only
Speaker 1: eight pounds more than what your tread bow is. But
Speaker 1: we got to talking about arrows, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: what kind of broadheads are you going to use? Flu
Speaker 1: flu eras? And are we gonna be able to pack
Speaker 1: enough eras in the vehicle that we go up there?
Speaker 1: For you to if you envisioned arrows just like stacked
Speaker 1: to the ceiling. I envisioned them to be scattered all
Speaker 1: over Kansas, is what I envisioned them to be. And
Speaker 1: after a day of shooting, we did not lose a
Speaker 1: single raw, not one arrow. It was the guide was
Speaker 1: absolutely impressed with that. We didn't lose a single areas. Man,
Speaker 1: he said, we did not lose a single area of
Speaker 1: the day. That's pretty that. I was impressed with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what I did so I had these flu flu
Speaker 1: arrows built. And for those who wouldn't know what the
Speaker 1: flu flu is, the flu flu is a is a
Speaker 1: arrow with about a three inch fletching that like three
Speaker 1: inches from the shaft to the tip up at the
Speaker 1: fletching five inches long. And so they make basically these
Speaker 1: big wind veins that slow the arrow down. So the
Speaker 1: raw comes out of the bow hot comes out fast,
Speaker 1: but then it uh but then it it The feathers
Speaker 1: slow the arrow down. There are four veins on it too,
Speaker 1: well four feathers. They're not veins, yeah yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: they they I'm testing them getting this worked out here
Speaker 1: there we go. So there are four of them. And
Speaker 1: but I was shooting those uh guillotine turkey heads, which
Speaker 1: ended up being our demise. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and tell you that was a mistake. Uh So they're there,
Speaker 1: these three bladed heads that have straight razor blades that
Speaker 1: are about two and a half to three inches long,
Speaker 1: and there are three blades and they just have kind
Speaker 1: of a like a like almost like a field points
Speaker 1: center with three blades that stick off at ninety degree
Speaker 1: angles to the shaft of the era. Is that a
Speaker 1: good description. That's pretty good. And my my theory was
Speaker 1: that it would be a big areas about you know,
Speaker 1: the broadhead ultimately is about his the circumference of a baseball,
Speaker 1: and so as opposed to just like a single blade
Speaker 1: or a regular blade broadhead that would have like an
Speaker 1: inch cutting diameter like this would be about the size
Speaker 1: of the baseball. And I thought, well, if I clip
Speaker 1: a wing or if I hit a bird somewhere, it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna take him down and the dog is
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get the bird. Well, that ended
Speaker 1: up being a mistake using those and we would late
Speaker 1: we would find out later in the day. But to
Speaker 1: make a long story short, I got thirty five. I
Speaker 1: shot thirty five times today at han on camera on
Speaker 1: camera thirty five shots. Um the outfitter. We're with um
Speaker 1: good guys up here in Kansas. We're hunting with with
Speaker 1: a guy that was using German short hair pointers. Awesome dogs. Man.
Speaker 1: I love anything any time that you're hunting or I'm hunting,
Speaker 1: if there if there's a dog involved in it, a
Speaker 1: good dog, a trained dog. It enhances the experience so
Speaker 1: much and it just there, it just brings extra something
Speaker 1: to the hunt that it's just hard to describe, you know,
Speaker 1: especially if you're a dog lover, if you like dogs,
Speaker 1: if you like hunting dogs, dogs that are are bred
Speaker 1: too to do a job. And when and when they
Speaker 1: get out there and you get to experience it with
Speaker 1: them and watch them do it, it's and and if
Speaker 1: you know a little bit about dogs, even just a
Speaker 1: little bit, you it'll impress you how how they utilize
Speaker 1: them and how you a dog's that you can see
Speaker 1: a desire that they love what they're doing, you know,
Speaker 1: And it was it was really cool. Yeah. So he
Speaker 1: had he had four German short hairs that he rotated
Speaker 1: throughout the day and basically we were hunting these big
Speaker 1: CRP fields which would just look like hay meadows, you know,
Speaker 1: that would vary in grass height from like like grass
Speaker 1: maybe just above your knee to grass almost up to
Speaker 1: your chest at different times. And these big CRP fields
Speaker 1: just this part of Kansas just super flat, and there
Speaker 1: would be roads cut through the CRP where they were
Speaker 1: driving up and down the roads, just farmers and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But they also had strips of Milo um that had
Speaker 1: strips of Milo that were put there to feed pheasants,
Speaker 1: and so like there might be two d and fifty
Speaker 1: yards of c RP and there'll be a strip of Milo.
Speaker 1: Two hundred forty yards of c RP and a strip
Speaker 1: of Milo. Yeah, like more were those things ys wide?
Speaker 1: Twenty yards wide? That's right. And uh so we were
Speaker 1: just hunting these little milow strips. And what was amazing
Speaker 1: to me is that you would see these pheasants out
Speaker 1: in the milow. It was almost like a spotting stock
Speaker 1: pheasant hunt. Yeah, I really was. And uh these were
Speaker 1: wild birds, they were They were wild birds, but a
Speaker 1: lot of them, some of them were incubated birds, which
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about. No, that was a new
Speaker 1: one on me. They called them surrogated birds, and they
Speaker 1: explained the way the guid explained to us. They put this,
Speaker 1: I guess it's a brooder, but it's a box. It
Speaker 1: was probably five ft wide, um maybe the same, Yeah,
Speaker 1: about five ft wide probably yeah, eight foot long and
Speaker 1: maybe ten inches deep. They had a heater or in it,
Speaker 1: and water and food in there, and they put those
Speaker 1: chicks in there, and those pheasant chicks in there when
Speaker 1: they are one day old, and they take these things,
Speaker 1: they take them out in springtime to coincides with the
Speaker 1: same time of the natural hat, the natural hatch, so
Speaker 1: and you know, predators can't get get get to them,
Speaker 1: and there's no human interaction with them whatsoever. That everything
Speaker 1: is automated. And after five or six weeks, depending on
Speaker 1: the weather. He said that in five weeks, they would
Speaker 1: turn them loose if there wasn't a lot of water
Speaker 1: on the ground, if it wasn't really wet, if it was,
Speaker 1: or if it was, they would wait a week later
Speaker 1: and then turn them loose and put them out, and
Speaker 1: they're just I mean, from then on it's you know,
Speaker 1: you're on your own. And so they basically they in
Speaker 1: different parts of Kansas, they use these surrogate surrogate birds,
Speaker 1: I guess to to supplement the natural breeding populations of birds.
Speaker 1: And uh, but these birds are raised wild, They've never
Speaker 1: been handled by people. I mean they were, they were
Speaker 1: wild birds. It was a little bit different than what
Speaker 1: I thought. Um, and I and I think we had
Speaker 1: kind of an unnatural amount of birds if I'm being
Speaker 1: honest about it, which you know, more power to them. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of we had a lot of opportunity today.
Speaker 1: And UM, but did I already say how many times
Speaker 1: I shot? Are you sure I didn't. It's worth saying
Speaker 1: again I shot. We'll hold on. Maybe I hadn't said
Speaker 1: it yet. I've said it so many times I can't
Speaker 1: remember if I said it on the podcast. So we
Speaker 1: were talking about German short hair pointers. We were talking
Speaker 1: about CRP fields and this Milo and uh and basically
Speaker 1: we were we were the wind was blown from the
Speaker 1: same direction most of the day, and so we would
Speaker 1: approach these fields on the down wind side and let
Speaker 1: the birds work into the wind and uh, the dogs
Speaker 1: working to the winds. Excuse me, and the So for
Speaker 1: those of you who might who might not have upland
Speaker 1: bird hunted before, these are pointing dogs. So these dogs
Speaker 1: are smelling birds. They're pointing and there literally with their
Speaker 1: noses in their eyes, pointing to where the bird is
Speaker 1: holed up. And then you walk in and flush the bird.
Speaker 1: You you scare the bird and he erupts from his
Speaker 1: from wherever he's hiding. And and that is wing shooting,
Speaker 1: when you're shooting that bird when he's off the ground.
Speaker 1: And uh, in an ideal situation, Sian, you get just
Speaker 1: this beautiful point. You have time to walk to the bird,
Speaker 1: you flush the bird, the bird gets up, and you shoot.
Speaker 1: But these birds were pretty dern wild and pressured, and
Speaker 1: so I I don't know if we could put a
Speaker 1: percentage on it, but I would say that I bet
Speaker 1: forty maybe thirty five percent of the birds that we
Speaker 1: even shot at we're not a classic point in flush situation.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, Like, like, maybe the dog
Speaker 1: would be working the bird, working the bird, and by
Speaker 1: working the bird, it would mean that the dog would scent,
Speaker 1: he would smell the bird. We would know there must
Speaker 1: be a bird close by, watching the tail, by watching
Speaker 1: the body posture this this bird dog, and we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a bird in here. Somewhere. The ideal scenario would
Speaker 1: be he would lock up and be like, Bam, there's
Speaker 1: the bird. But maybe the bird would get up ten
Speaker 1: yards from the dog or fifteen yards from the dog
Speaker 1: and and fly off. And sometimes we would get a
Speaker 1: shot at that bird, and sometimes we wouldn't because um,
Speaker 1: when the when the bird gets up from an unknown location,
Speaker 1: that's when you're at a massive disadvantage, especially with the
Speaker 1: boat or with a shotgun. Okay, now I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm just guessing, I would say sixty
Speaker 1: percent of the time it was a classic point. When
Speaker 1: the dog is just rock solid on point, we go
Speaker 1: in and flush the bird and we pretty much know
Speaker 1: where it's coming from. Okay. I was coming into this
Speaker 1: hunt with h with no knowledge of pheasants or how
Speaker 1: they fly. I mean I was on YouTube the other
Speaker 1: day looking for how pheasants fly. Um, And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I learned today is that when a pheasant
Speaker 1: is in pretty deep thick cover, like like chest high grass,
Speaker 1: he's got to get some vertical jump before he starts
Speaker 1: to really rock and roll with his wings to get
Speaker 1: that movement away. And so the ideal situation for us
Speaker 1: was to get a bird in real fix stuff, so
Speaker 1: that he had to come up out of it, because
Speaker 1: when he's coming up out of it going straight vertical,
Speaker 1: he's not going real fast. Yeah. And there's also like
Speaker 1: there's a moment like shooting uh a spring until on
Speaker 1: a on a sport and clay range spring and till
Speaker 1: is is the clay that goes straight up off the ground,
Speaker 1: goes straight up in there, and then there there's a
Speaker 1: moment in there. The best time to shoot that thing
Speaker 1: is just it was when it hits the apex of
Speaker 1: its flight and stops. Yeah, and that's when you shoot it.
Speaker 1: And there and there when that bird comes up out
Speaker 1: of there, there's almost a moment where he's tramping before
Speaker 1: he transitioned from vertical flight to smoking it out of
Speaker 1: the area going down wind. That that he's got that
Speaker 1: little hesitation. And that's that was what we were looking
Speaker 1: for to be able to shoot it with the bow
Speaker 1: right right when you would spook went out of thin cover.
Speaker 1: I felt like that they would just shoot out of
Speaker 1: there like a rocket at a more steep angle as
Speaker 1: opposed to a more vertical angle. Yeah, it was almost
Speaker 1: like they were coming up and going into and going
Speaker 1: down wind already as soon as they were just gone,
Speaker 1: and they might they might not get more than five
Speaker 1: feet off the ground. Also, the wind was blowing heavily today.
Speaker 1: How fast do you think it went with it's fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty what it was forecasting, and I would say
Speaker 1: it was ever a bit of it. So fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty mile per hour winds. And what these birds do
Speaker 1: is they get up and they fly with the wind.
Speaker 1: That so once they hit that wind current, bam, they're gone. Um.
Speaker 1: So I didn't have much experience with with with pheasants,
Speaker 1: or zero experience with peasants I had, I do. I
Speaker 1: do have experience shooting quail with shotguns and shooting skeet
Speaker 1: with shotguns, so that would have been my experience. I
Speaker 1: did a little bit of practicing. I had my son
Speaker 1: go out in the yard with me and with these
Speaker 1: flu flu eras we were shooting that uh kind of
Speaker 1: like coffee cans that we were throwing up in the air.
Speaker 1: And UH had you know some success with that? Do
Speaker 1: you think that helped you? I don't think it did.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean, I don't know that it did, um,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It wasn't really that realistic. It
Speaker 1: just kind of got you thinking about shooting a moving target.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the only thing that did. I
Speaker 1: can tell you the best way to practice for a
Speaker 1: hunt like this is just to go. Now. If I
Speaker 1: was going back out tomorrow to do this again, I
Speaker 1: think I probably would be better. I just don't know
Speaker 1: how it wouldn't be. Um. You also might just get
Speaker 1: lucky quicker, and then you would think you were better. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, any you know a muscle memory. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just like shooting that tread bow. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: you you just you work at it, and you work
Speaker 1: at it, and you work at it until you get
Speaker 1: proficient with it. So it may it may not have
Speaker 1: been tomorrow, it may it may have been next week,
Speaker 1: but you kept doing it, you would have figured it out,
Speaker 1: and you man the misses that that you had is
Speaker 1: and you could be able to see it on the
Speaker 1: video some of them we're not. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: the difference in the way the broadhead was turned exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean it was there was I think up whether
Speaker 1: the prong was to the right or to the left. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how that didn't didn't hit him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean they were close, and you're you're talking
Speaker 1: about a very minuscule amount of a deviation on aero
Speaker 1: flight or the bird's flight, or the wind blowing to
Speaker 1: be able to change all that. Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've said it yet, but I shot thirty five
Speaker 1: times at pheasants today. Thirty five shots at pheasants, and
Speaker 1: I straight up hit only one of them in the air,
Speaker 1: dead solid, perfect shot one out of three. That that's
Speaker 1: that statements not entirely true, because I did hit two
Speaker 1: that were on the ground. I cut feathers off one.
Speaker 1: You know, throughout the day, you know, when you're wings shooting,
Speaker 1: you don't shoot a bird on the ground. But as
Speaker 1: we got further throughout the day, a few times, you know,
Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, we're just meat hunting here.
Speaker 1: And we had a pheasant in some of this milo
Speaker 1: that we could see standing up out there at about
Speaker 1: maybe eighteen yards just looking at us, and the dog
Speaker 1: was at point and um, and I just was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to skill it shoot this thing.
Speaker 1: And UM. I missed a couple on the ground, and
Speaker 1: but one I just straight up hit right in the
Speaker 1: tail feathers and uh, it didn't kill him. Cut his
Speaker 1: cut his tail feathers off. Yeah, I'm gonna make some
Speaker 1: trail flies out of that. So I appreciate him donating
Speaker 1: that to the calls. Yeah, we probably could have just
Speaker 1: ordered him on line for a little less drama than
Speaker 1: what we went through to do this. But so thirty
Speaker 1: five shots, thirty five shots and late in the day,
Speaker 1: was it like shot number thirty two or thirty one
Speaker 1: that you hit it? Yeah, it was, I think. So
Speaker 1: that's pretty close. Well, shot number thirty one. Let's say
Speaker 1: bird gets up right in front of us, goes to
Speaker 1: my to my left and a heavy cross wind, and
Speaker 1: uh draw and you're just drawing and snapshooting, drawing and snapshooting,
Speaker 1: trying to have pressure on the back of that, you know,
Speaker 1: on the string. When the birds about to get up,
Speaker 1: you think, and I shot, and I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: had to lead the bird because he was going horror,
Speaker 1: you know, perpendicular to me almost and just thud, just
Speaker 1: just nailed the bird in the air. And man, I'll
Speaker 1: be darned if that sucker didn't just fly off like
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't take him out of the air.
Speaker 1: I mean that it just hit him. We saw a
Speaker 1: little bit of a puff of feathers, and then we
Speaker 1: watched him sail about another hundred yards and he did
Speaker 1: a little dipsy do before he landed, which made us
Speaker 1: think that we were gonna get him actually, and we
Speaker 1: we went in there with the dog to try to
Speaker 1: find him, and we never recovered the bird. But I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't think it killed the bird.
Speaker 1: I don't think so either, because well, I mean, we
Speaker 1: had the dog right there and we saw where he
Speaker 1: went down, and I don't think he killed him. Well,
Speaker 1: And that's when we learned about the broadheads, was that
Speaker 1: we basically had to two times that the broadheads just
Speaker 1: bounced off the animal. Hey, why don't you, why don't
Speaker 1: you pull out the text message thread that behind my
Speaker 1: back that you were right into a few So I
Speaker 1: had a group of text message with my oldest nephew
Speaker 1: in my and my older brother and I was giving
Speaker 1: I give him a rundown. I sent him a text
Speaker 1: this morning at like seven thirty and I said, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're filming a pheasant hunt in Kansas today at upland
Speaker 1: in hunts. Send him a link to the website so
Speaker 1: they could check it. Out and I said, Clay is
Speaker 1: gonna be using this primitive a bow. I'm sure we're
Speaker 1: gonna be having bologne it for supper tonight. So they
Speaker 1: got a little charge out of that. They both, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they give they they give the uh the complementary ha
Speaker 1: ha you know l O L. So about three oh three,
Speaker 1: I sent him a texts were over nineteen so far.
Speaker 1: My oldest nephew's responsibles. Dad Gum, my oldest brother says, well,
Speaker 1: you're no more surprised than I am. Somebody needs to
Speaker 1: be backing that guy with a shotgun. At least y'all
Speaker 1: can get something to eat. Seven minutes later, it's three
Speaker 1: e ten and we're oh, so, you know that was
Speaker 1: something to be said that when you talked about you know,
Speaker 1: the action was steady, you know, it was we were
Speaker 1: getting on we were covering ground, we were getting on birds,
Speaker 1: and the opportunities were were there, so we got after
Speaker 1: I said, oh, for one, my oldest nephew says, you know,
Speaker 1: we may be looking at a new record. And my
Speaker 1: response to that was he's raising or lowering the bar
Speaker 1: with every shot, So I guess it's you know, how
Speaker 1: you want to interpret that. And then The text of
Speaker 1: the day was the response that said from my nephew
Speaker 1: that says, I guess it could be both the man
Speaker 1: is setting new heights of suckage. You just do you
Speaker 1: clay and so on to say, oh my gosh. They
Speaker 1: they talked about said, well, it looks like you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be eating at the Sonic. When I set
Speaker 1: the text for over thirty two, Matthews come back and said,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe play you tried shooting. That's some sitting hens.
Speaker 1: You might be able to get a couple of those.
Speaker 1: Man These guys anyway, they they were they were really
Speaker 1: thrilled that we were up here doing this and thought
Speaker 1: it was way cool. And they also thought, you guys
Speaker 1: will not kill any pheasants, and they were ready and
Speaker 1: they were right. They were right. They were right this time.
Speaker 1: Well so we uh. I feel good though, because I did.
Speaker 1: I said that if we came up here today and
Speaker 1: I killed one f Now I did say if I
Speaker 1: killed one pheasant, that the trip would be a success.
Speaker 1: And I shot one pheasant good enough to kill it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually too, if we count the one on the
Speaker 1: ground good enough to kill but we didn't kill him.
Speaker 1: That the era just bounced off of and but you know,
Speaker 1: I think the moral of the story inside of this is, um,
Speaker 1: wings shooting wing, Shooting birds is super fun and don't
Speaker 1: be afraid to just try something different. Like we certainly
Speaker 1: could have brought shotguns up here and we could have
Speaker 1: both limited it out by noon. Oh gosh, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: by noon we had been on fifteen or so. I
Speaker 1: would think we took a little break and ate lunch.
Speaker 1: And the limit of the limit in Kansas for for
Speaker 1: pheasants is for pheasants per license, hunter per day. And
Speaker 1: um anyway, man, it was a super fun hunt. I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna make a video. I'm not sure exactly
Speaker 1: how it's gonna go down, but you'll probably be able
Speaker 1: to see me missing uh thirty three out of thirty
Speaker 1: five times. You know, Uh, wing shooting is not easy
Speaker 1: with a shotgun. It is a really not easy shooting
Speaker 1: a bow. Yeah, yeah, I want to do it again.
Speaker 1: It can be done. I know it can be done.
Speaker 1: We need to change up our broad head and we
Speaker 1: got to come up with some type of drill. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be me hitting softballs
Speaker 1: with a bat and you're shooting at them or or what.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna take uh, it's it'll just gonna take
Speaker 1: some practice. Yeah, well, I think it. I think it
Speaker 1: would also help to do it in multiple days. We
Speaker 1: were going back out tomorrow after thirty five shots. Today,
Speaker 1: I feel like I would just be a little more
Speaker 1: in tune with what was about to happen because about
Speaker 1: the first fifteen shots, I learned all the moves that
Speaker 1: pheasant have. Okay, I mean, like if a pheasant getting
Speaker 1: up could be categorized, I bet there's fifteen different ways
Speaker 1: that they can do it. Sometimes they come straight up,
Speaker 1: Sometimes they go with the wind and stay low. Pheasant
Speaker 1: can fly probably quarter mile, or they might just fly
Speaker 1: fifties sixty seventy yards in light so you can go
Speaker 1: you can go after him again. So you know, there
Speaker 1: was yeah, well a lot of a lot of birds
Speaker 1: we got more than one shot at because we would
Speaker 1: watch where they went and go get them. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, the first fifteen shots, I was just learning
Speaker 1: what pheasants do, and then after that I was a
Speaker 1: lot a lot, uh, I mean I kind of knew
Speaker 1: what was probably gonna happen, but you just you know,
Speaker 1: there were a couple of times when I was just
Speaker 1: out of position when I had a real good opportunity.
Speaker 1: The very first shot that I shot at today, I
Speaker 1: actually cut feathers And that was probably the most ideal
Speaker 1: pheasant movement of the day. It was cover a bird
Speaker 1: in thick cover that came straight up and just kind
Speaker 1: of hovered there for a minute almost and I was
Speaker 1: able to shoot, and I mean it just, oh, it
Speaker 1: looked like it just was gonna torch him, probably five
Speaker 1: or six yards away when he comes up. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and you know, cut feathers off the bird. And
Speaker 1: uh so you know, there were there were a lot
Speaker 1: of shots that just looked good but super fun. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think we we wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: like some of the benefits of small game hunting. But
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm I'm a big game hunter
Speaker 1: at heart, big time, but if you can branch out
Speaker 1: do some social hunting. You know that You've heard me
Speaker 1: talk about it so many times. But there's so many
Speaker 1: benefits to small game hunting, none of not of which
Speaker 1: the least is uh, the social aspects of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we were deer hunting today or bear hunting today,
Speaker 1: we probably would all been off by ourselves and coming
Speaker 1: back to camp to talk about what happened. But you know,
Speaker 1: we're together all day with our guide Arden and just
Speaker 1: had a good time. We probably walked there. Brent was
Speaker 1: getting closer to ten miles. I was guessing closer to
Speaker 1: seven to eight miles that we walked. I mean we
Speaker 1: walked a lot today, truly walked on the ground. You know,
Speaker 1: the grounds, its flat ground. It's it's pretty easy walking.
Speaker 1: There's no issues there, you know. It was and the GUIDs,
Speaker 1: you know, are and he put us, he would put
Speaker 1: us out, put us in one direction, taking the dogs.
Speaker 1: We take the dogs. We'd go into the wind with
Speaker 1: the dogs and he, you know, he may come around
Speaker 1: on the other side a quarter of a mile away
Speaker 1: and pick us up and then we would you know,
Speaker 1: go to a different different area or whatever. So there
Speaker 1: was a lot of a lot of movement. We traveled
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of fields that we looked at.
Speaker 1: So they and they've got many they got a lot
Speaker 1: of places to hunt up there, and a lot of birds.
Speaker 1: So it was it was something all the time. There
Speaker 1: was no there was no downtime, no downtime. We didn't
Speaker 1: even break for lunch. We knew we had one day
Speaker 1: to get it done. If we had a couple of days,
Speaker 1: we probably would have taken a little bit more easy.
Speaker 1: But when uh, when uh, when it came lunchtime, you know,
Speaker 1: we we could have broke and gone back and had
Speaker 1: lunch in town or something, and I just said, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just keep hunting. Let's just eat some snacks and
Speaker 1: just keep hunting. But anyway, small game hunting is fun,
Speaker 1: super fun, great time of year to do it, whether
Speaker 1: you're squirrel hunting or pheasant hunting. And and you know,
Speaker 1: these hunts aren't aren't cheap, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: they're not expensive. Like if a guy was going to uh,
Speaker 1: if a guy was gonna plan for this, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of these places are around four hundred dollars
Speaker 1: uh a day for for hunting and and having a
Speaker 1: place to stay and having meals and whatnot. The facilities
Speaker 1: were very nice, the food was awesome. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and if you think about even going on a vacation,
Speaker 1: let's just say you were gonna go on a three
Speaker 1: day vacation, you know you're gonna and you're gonna stay
Speaker 1: in a decent hotel, You're gonna spend a hundred hundred
Speaker 1: dollars two hundred and fifty dollars on a decent hotel
Speaker 1: wherever you're gonna stay and anyway. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of money to me. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: that's not a lot of money. Um, so it's it's affordable.
Speaker 1: And this was an outfitted hunt for sure. And now
Speaker 1: there's there's places where you can hunt, uh do it
Speaker 1: yourself hunting if you've got dogs, um, but not out here,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you probably wouldn't have. I doubt
Speaker 1: there's many places where you could get as much action
Speaker 1: as we did in a short amount of time. But
Speaker 1: it was a fun hunt, absolutely fun hunt, well worth
Speaker 1: the trip, well worth a six hours. Not my only
Speaker 1: complaint that this gas station coffee that was straining through
Speaker 1: an old tennis shoe that we stopped about ten minutes
Speaker 1: ago and got the guy that looked like he'd come
Speaker 1: just here with the pork job. Yeah that's that guy.
Speaker 1: Don't be him. Hey, this is just gonna be our
Speaker 1: a short podcast. Wanted to talk to you about our
Speaker 1: to talk to you about our our pheasant hunt in Kansas.
Speaker 1: You can check out this video at bar Hunting Magazine
Speaker 1: YouTube channel and Brent. Any closing thoughts. Let's see, if
Speaker 1: we're keeping score, you were one for thirty five and
Speaker 1: I was thirty five for thirty five. But I wish
Speaker 1: you mine with them. M hmmm. That makes me feel
Speaker 1: real good man. It makes me feel real warm and
Speaker 1: cozy inside. That's all I got. Bro's a good time,
Speaker 1: always a good time with you, and I enjoy it. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for going, man, So all right, we'll keep the
Speaker 1: wild places wild because that's where the pheasants live. Forever.
Speaker 1: Peasants foreverm