1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network, brought to 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: you by Lacrosse Boots. If you guys haven't checked out 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: the new Navigator series from Lacrosse, I strongly suggest you 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: do that. Two really good boots within that Navigator series, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: the wind Rose and the Atlas. If you want to 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: find out more information about all of the boots that 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Lacrosse offers, visit their website Lacrosse Footwear dot com. You 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: won't regret it. My name is Clay Nucleman. I'm the 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: host of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: your host into the world of hunting the icon of 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: the North American wilderness Prepare. We'll talk about tactics, gear, conservation, 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: but will also bring you into some of the wildest 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: country on the planet chasing bears. Last week, Brent Reeves 14 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: and I went to Greensburg, Kansas to hunt pheasants. We 15 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: didn't take shotguns, but we took the traditional bow and 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: a camera. This podcast is about what we learned while 17 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: traditional bow hunting pheasants over German short hair pointers. We 18 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: talk about the gear, the gear failure. We talked about 19 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: the difficulty, we talked about the fun, We talked about 20 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: pointing dogs and so this is kind of a off 21 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: topic podcast, but it's a lot of fun and you 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: can check out our video on the Bear Hunting Magazine 23 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. We just released a three minute video that 24 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: I am quite certain it's gonna burn up the internet 25 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: and you'll get to watch me miss a lot and 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I will not tell you if I hit one. The 27 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: whole point of all this is, uh yeah, we were 28 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: just looking to have some fun over some good pointing 29 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: dogs and do some non traditional wingshooting, so check that out. Also, 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: we're continuing this week on our giveaway and the way 31 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: to be qualified for the giveaway, and this week it's 32 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: for north Woods Bear Products. Will send you some variety 33 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: some type of north Woods Bear products, just one person 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: per week. 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We are in in Wichita, Kansas, and I'm 44 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: with my buddy Brent Reeves, and we're doing something that 45 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: we typically find ourselves doing this time of year, which 46 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: is looking for something to hunt that is different, that 47 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: is maybe not different. But you know, we've we've come 48 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: through the fall hunting seasons and it's still deer season 49 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: in Arkansas. It's duck season in Arkansas, but there's no 50 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: ducks in Arkansas and uh, and we can still do 51 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of deer hunting and probably will. Our 52 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: deer season lasts through this This is a leap year, 53 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: so lasts through February twenty nine. But but this is 54 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: the time when we're doing some really turning our attention 55 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to small game in a lot of ways. Yeah, I've 56 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: got some squirrel hunting plans in the near future. Um, well, 57 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: this is the time last year when we uh squirrel 58 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: hunting on mules with a tray. Yeah. So what we 59 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: did though this year is, uh, we came to Kansas 60 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: for one day to hunt pheasants and not not just 61 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: pheasant hunting, but we were hunting with a traditional boat. Yeah, 62 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: and Brent was Brent was here with me. Brent was filming, 63 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: and uh, I had seen in different places where guys 64 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: were we're hunting pheasants with tread bows, and I had 65 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: no idea Brent, if I could hit one or not. 66 00:04:53,960 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: I remember a month ago, three weeks ago, whatever was 67 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: when you called me and he said, hey, man, you 68 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: think you'd be up for a trip to Kansas shoot 69 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: some pheasants. And I'm like, yeah, I'm in. And you said, well, 70 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it with my boat. And I said, 71 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: what has possessed you? Did? I want to do that? 72 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: Because when immediately when you said go to Kansas and 73 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: pheasant hunt, I thought, well, we're gonna do some We're 74 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna shoot some birds. We shotguns, That's what I mean. 75 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: Who wouldn't think that? So I was taking them back. 76 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: But I did it. Man. I understand well that the 77 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: genesis of it was that I saw a guy on 78 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: social media for a guy that I know that had 79 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: I had just a a bunch of quail. They went 80 00:05:54,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: on a quail hunt in Missouri and they were that 81 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: he he'd quail hunted. And man, it's been so long 82 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: since i've been on a good quail hunt. I asked 83 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: him where he went, and uh, and he and he 84 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: went to some place up the Missouri and they were 85 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: they were pen raised birds that they put out for him. 86 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: And nothing in any way against that. I've been on 87 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: those kind of hunts, but I was I really wanted 88 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: a wild bird hunt. That's what was in my mind. 89 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: And then I started. Uh. I saw something on YouTube 90 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: where a guy shot a pheasant with a traditional bowl, 91 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: and I just thought, well, man, what if we pheasant 92 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: hunted and up the game. We're gonna We're gonna we're 93 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: gonna use the trad bow. And um, I had no 94 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: idea if I can hit if I could hit one, 95 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: But now I do because we went over here for 96 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: a day and um we were here for a day. 97 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: And what I said was, I believe if I have 98 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: twenty shot at pheasants, I believe I could hit one. 99 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: That is what I said. I had no basis for 100 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: that other than that. UM, you know, I'm I'm just 101 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: a decent traditional archer. But I feel like I had 102 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: a I've shot enough that I that I and they've 103 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: shot at some moving targets and stuff that I just 104 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: I just felt like I could hit them. And uh, 105 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: well you even you even talked to the outfitter and said, 106 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: you know what when you were setting it up, you know, 107 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: what's the what's the chances of getting you know, how 108 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: many shots do you think I could get during the day? 109 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: And you came up with the number. You know, you know, 110 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: if I could get twenty shots, I think I can 111 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: do this, you know, And it seemed like a legit 112 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: number to me as well. Yeah, and here's the here's 113 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: the truth about it too. I've not been shooting my 114 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: traditional bow. I mean I haven't shot it much in 115 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: the last two months. You know, some guys are shooting 116 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: their bows all the time, and and I just don't 117 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: do that at the you know, I pick up my 118 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: bow for portions of the year. And there's some guys 119 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: that that shoot their trad bows all throughout the year, 120 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, not going more than a couple of days 121 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: without shooting it. And uh and I've just I've just 122 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: never done that. Usually, I'm I'm picking the bow up, 123 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, sixty days before a hunt, and and and 124 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: and and shooting a lot. And I found that I 125 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: can be pretty accurate for big game out to fifteen 126 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: eighteen yards by doing that and doing it right and 127 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: and haven't had any trouble killing game that way, but 128 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: this one kind of snuck up on me and uh, 129 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna go shoot pheasants. So I don't know how to 130 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: break this to everybody, but today this originally started out 131 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: as a two day trip as well, this is gonna 132 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: be a two day hunt. Well we trimmed her down 133 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: to where it was just a one day hunt. So 134 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: we drove six hours, got here late last night, hunted 135 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: all day, and we're back on the road tonight. Well 136 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: ask you, there's forecasting for some pretty rough weather coming 137 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: in and didn't really Yeah, rain and snow, which really 138 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: inconducive to you know, a good film and the weather. 139 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: So we thought, well we can if we can get 140 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: on the birds, you know, and one day we'll we'll 141 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: knock it out. Today. Let me uh, let me first 142 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: start by talking about the gear that I was using. 143 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: I was using a timber Ghost traditional boat G three 144 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: S S, which is the superstatic. The S S stands 145 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: for superstatic, the G three stands for Generation three, So 146 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: it's Kent Roberts third generation of this style of three 147 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: piece takedown bows. The superstatic Brent means that those radical, 148 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: super radical limb tips which give it extreme performance. Like 149 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: that bow is one of the fastest bows on the 150 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: on the market, on the traditional market. So I was 151 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: shooting a timber ghost G three SS at fifty two 152 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: pounds at inches and I probably draw it twenty seven 153 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: and shooting snapshooting pheasant, I was probably drawing at twenty 154 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: twenty six inches. And we I had a dozen flu 155 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: flu arrows built with five inch fletchings helical four fletched 156 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: flu flues. I had a dozen made because I figured 157 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: that I was gonna lose some arrows. Well, I remember 158 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: us talking about it too, you know, And in one 159 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: of the conversations after we decided, you know, we're going, 160 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: that was my question. I'm like, arrows. I mean, I'm 161 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: an archer, but I'm not a traditional archer. I I 162 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: shoot a compound bow, which actually is only sixty only 163 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: eight pounds more than what your tread bow is. But 164 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: we got to talking about arrows, and I was like, dude, 165 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: what kind of broadheads are you going to use? Flu 166 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: flu eras? And are we gonna be able to pack 167 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: enough eras in the vehicle that we go up there? 168 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: For you to if you envisioned arrows just like stacked 169 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: to the ceiling. I envisioned them to be scattered all 170 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: over Kansas, is what I envisioned them to be. And 171 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: after a day of shooting, we did not lose a 172 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: single raw, not one arrow. It was the guide was 173 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: absolutely impressed with that. We didn't lose a single areas. Man, 174 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: he said, we did not lose a single area of 175 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: the day. That's pretty that. I was impressed with that. Yeah, 176 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: So what I did so I had these flu flu 177 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: arrows built. And for those who wouldn't know what the 178 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: flu flu is, the flu flu is a is a 179 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: arrow with about a three inch fletching that like three 180 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: inches from the shaft to the tip up at the 181 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: fletching five inches long. And so they make basically these 182 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: big wind veins that slow the arrow down. So the 183 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: raw comes out of the bow hot comes out fast, 184 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: but then it uh but then it it The feathers 185 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: slow the arrow down. There are four veins on it too, 186 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: well four feathers. They're not veins, yeah yeah, yeah, and 187 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: they they I'm testing them getting this worked out here 188 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: there we go. So there are four of them. And 189 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: but I was shooting those uh guillotine turkey heads, which 190 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: ended up being our demise. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead 191 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: and tell you that was a mistake. Uh So they're there, 192 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: these three bladed heads that have straight razor blades that 193 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: are about two and a half to three inches long, 194 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: and there are three blades and they just have kind 195 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: of a like a like almost like a field points 196 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: center with three blades that stick off at ninety degree 197 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: angles to the shaft of the era. Is that a 198 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: good description. That's pretty good. And my my theory was 199 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: that it would be a big areas about you know, 200 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: the broadhead ultimately is about his the circumference of a baseball, 201 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and so as opposed to just like a single blade 202 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: or a regular blade broadhead that would have like an 203 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: inch cutting diameter like this would be about the size 204 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: of the baseball. And I thought, well, if I clip 205 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: a wing or if I hit a bird somewhere, it's 206 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna take him down and the dog is 207 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: gonna be able to get the bird. Well, that ended 208 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: up being a mistake using those and we would late 209 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: we would find out later in the day. But to 210 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: make a long story short, I got thirty five. I 211 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: shot thirty five times today at han on camera on 212 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: camera thirty five shots. Um the outfitter. We're with um 213 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: good guys up here in Kansas. We're hunting with with 214 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: a guy that was using German short hair pointers. Awesome dogs. Man. 215 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: I love anything any time that you're hunting or I'm hunting, 216 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: if there if there's a dog involved in it, a 217 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: good dog, a trained dog. It enhances the experience so 218 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: much and it just there, it just brings extra something 219 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: to the hunt that it's just hard to describe, you know, 220 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: especially if you're a dog lover, if you like dogs, 221 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: if you like hunting dogs, dogs that are are bred 222 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: too to do a job. And when and when they 223 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: get out there and you get to experience it with 224 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: them and watch them do it, it's and and if 225 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: you know a little bit about dogs, even just a 226 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: little bit, you it'll impress you how how they utilize 227 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: them and how you a dog's that you can see 228 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: a desire that they love what they're doing, you know, 229 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: And it was it was really cool. Yeah. So he 230 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: had he had four German short hairs that he rotated 231 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: throughout the day and basically we were hunting these big 232 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: CRP fields which would just look like hay meadows, you know, 233 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: that would vary in grass height from like like grass 234 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: maybe just above your knee to grass almost up to 235 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: your chest at different times. And these big CRP fields 236 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: just this part of Kansas just super flat, and there 237 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: would be roads cut through the CRP where they were 238 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: driving up and down the roads, just farmers and whatnot. 239 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: But they also had strips of Milo um that had 240 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: strips of Milo that were put there to feed pheasants, 241 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: and so like there might be two d and fifty 242 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: yards of c RP and there'll be a strip of Milo. 243 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Two hundred forty yards of c RP and a strip 244 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: of Milo. Yeah, like more were those things ys wide? 245 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: Twenty yards wide? That's right. And uh so we were 246 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: just hunting these little milow strips. And what was amazing 247 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: to me is that you would see these pheasants out 248 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: in the milow. It was almost like a spotting stock 249 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: pheasant hunt. Yeah, I really was. And uh these were 250 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: wild birds, they were They were wild birds, but a 251 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of them, some of them were incubated birds, which 252 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about. No, that was a new 253 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: one on me. They called them surrogated birds, and they 254 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: explained the way the guid explained to us. They put this, 255 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's a brooder, but it's a box. It 256 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: was probably five ft wide, um maybe the same, Yeah, 257 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: about five ft wide probably yeah, eight foot long and 258 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: maybe ten inches deep. They had a heater or in it, 259 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: and water and food in there, and they put those 260 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: chicks in there, and those pheasant chicks in there when 261 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: they are one day old, and they take these things, 262 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: they take them out in springtime to coincides with the 263 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: same time of the natural hat, the natural hatch, so 264 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: and you know, predators can't get get get to them, 265 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: and there's no human interaction with them whatsoever. That everything 266 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: is automated. And after five or six weeks, depending on 267 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: the weather. He said that in five weeks, they would 268 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: turn them loose if there wasn't a lot of water 269 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: on the ground, if it wasn't really wet, if it was, 270 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: or if it was, they would wait a week later 271 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: and then turn them loose and put them out, and 272 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 1: they're just I mean, from then on it's you know, 273 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: you're on your own. And so they basically they in 274 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: different parts of Kansas, they use these surrogate surrogate birds, 275 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: I guess to to supplement the natural breeding populations of birds. 276 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: And uh, but these birds are raised wild, They've never 277 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: been handled by people. I mean they were, they were 278 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: wild birds. It was a little bit different than what 279 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: I thought. Um, and I and I think we had 280 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of an unnatural amount of birds if I'm being 281 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: honest about it, which you know, more power to them. Um, 282 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of we had a lot of opportunity today. 283 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: And UM, but did I already say how many times 284 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: I shot? Are you sure I didn't. It's worth saying 285 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: again I shot. We'll hold on. Maybe I hadn't said 286 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: it yet. I've said it so many times I can't 287 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: remember if I said it on the podcast. So we 288 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: were talking about German short hair pointers. We were talking 289 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: about CRP fields and this Milo and uh and basically 290 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: we were we were the wind was blown from the 291 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: same direction most of the day, and so we would 292 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: approach these fields on the down wind side and let 293 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: the birds work into the wind and uh, the dogs 294 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: working to the winds. Excuse me, and the So for 295 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: those of you who might who might not have upland 296 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: bird hunted before, these are pointing dogs. So these dogs 297 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: are smelling birds. They're pointing and there literally with their 298 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: noses in their eyes, pointing to where the bird is 299 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: holed up. And then you walk in and flush the bird. 300 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: You you scare the bird and he erupts from his 301 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: from wherever he's hiding. And and that is wing shooting, 302 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: when you're shooting that bird when he's off the ground. 303 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: And uh, in an ideal situation, Sian, you get just 304 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: this beautiful point. You have time to walk to the bird, 305 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: you flush the bird, the bird gets up, and you shoot. 306 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: But these birds were pretty dern wild and pressured, and 307 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: so I I don't know if we could put a 308 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: percentage on it, but I would say that I bet 309 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: forty maybe thirty five percent of the birds that we 310 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: even shot at we're not a classic point in flush situation. 311 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, Like, like, maybe the dog 312 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: would be working the bird, working the bird, and by 313 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: working the bird, it would mean that the dog would scent, 314 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: he would smell the bird. We would know there must 315 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: be a bird close by, watching the tail, by watching 316 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the body posture this this bird dog, and we're like, okay, 317 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: there's a bird in here. Somewhere. The ideal scenario would 318 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: be he would lock up and be like, Bam, there's 319 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: the bird. But maybe the bird would get up ten 320 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: yards from the dog or fifteen yards from the dog 321 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: and and fly off. And sometimes we would get a 322 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: shot at that bird, and sometimes we wouldn't because um, 323 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: when the when the bird gets up from an unknown location, 324 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: that's when you're at a massive disadvantage, especially with the 325 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: boat or with a shotgun. Okay, now I would say, 326 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm just guessing, I would say sixty 327 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: percent of the time it was a classic point. When 328 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: the dog is just rock solid on point, we go 329 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: in and flush the bird and we pretty much know 330 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: where it's coming from. Okay. I was coming into this 331 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: hunt with h with no knowledge of pheasants or how 332 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: they fly. I mean I was on YouTube the other 333 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: day looking for how pheasants fly. Um, And I'll tell 334 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: you what I learned today is that when a pheasant 335 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: is in pretty deep thick cover, like like chest high grass, 336 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: he's got to get some vertical jump before he starts 337 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: to really rock and roll with his wings to get 338 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: that movement away. And so the ideal situation for us 339 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: was to get a bird in real fix stuff, so 340 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: that he had to come up out of it, because 341 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: when he's coming up out of it going straight vertical, 342 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: he's not going real fast. Yeah. And there's also like 343 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: there's a moment like shooting uh a spring until on 344 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: a on a sport and clay range spring and till 345 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: is is the clay that goes straight up off the ground, 346 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: goes straight up in there, and then there there's a 347 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: moment in there. The best time to shoot that thing 348 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: is just it was when it hits the apex of 349 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: its flight and stops. Yeah, and that's when you shoot it. 350 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: And there and there when that bird comes up out 351 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: of there, there's almost a moment where he's tramping before 352 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: he transitioned from vertical flight to smoking it out of 353 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the area going down wind. That that he's got that 354 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: little hesitation. And that's that was what we were looking 355 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: for to be able to shoot it with the bow 356 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: right right when you would spook went out of thin cover. 357 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: I felt like that they would just shoot out of 358 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: there like a rocket at a more steep angle as 359 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: opposed to a more vertical angle. Yeah, it was almost 360 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: like they were coming up and going into and going 361 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: down wind already as soon as they were just gone, 362 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: and they might they might not get more than five 363 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: feet off the ground. Also, the wind was blowing heavily today. 364 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: How fast do you think it went with it's fifteen 365 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: to twenty what it was forecasting, and I would say 366 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: it was ever a bit of it. So fifteen to 367 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: twenty mile per hour winds. And what these birds do 368 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: is they get up and they fly with the wind. 369 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: That so once they hit that wind current, bam, they're gone. Um. 370 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: So I didn't have much experience with with with pheasants, 371 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: or zero experience with peasants I had, I do. I 372 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: do have experience shooting quail with shotguns and shooting skeet 373 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: with shotguns, so that would have been my experience. I 374 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: did a little bit of practicing. I had my son 375 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: go out in the yard with me and with these 376 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: flu flu eras we were shooting that uh kind of 377 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: like coffee cans that we were throwing up in the air. 378 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: And UH had you know some success with that? Do 379 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: you think that helped you? I don't think it did. 380 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean, I don't know that it did, um, 381 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: but I don't know. It wasn't really that realistic. It 382 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: just kind of got you thinking about shooting a moving target. 383 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: I think that's probably the only thing that did. I 384 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: can tell you the best way to practice for a 385 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: hunt like this is just to go. Now. If I 386 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: was going back out tomorrow to do this again, I 387 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: think I probably would be better. I just don't know 388 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: how it wouldn't be. Um. You also might just get 389 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: lucky quicker, and then you would think you were better. Well, 390 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: I mean, any you know a muscle memory. You know, 391 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: it's just like shooting that tread bow. Now, you know, 392 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: you you just you work at it, and you work 393 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: at it, and you work at it until you get 394 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: proficient with it. So it may it may not have 395 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: been tomorrow, it may it may have been next week, 396 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: but you kept doing it, you would have figured it out, 397 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: and you man the misses that that you had is 398 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: and you could be able to see it on the 399 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: video some of them we're not. I mean, it was 400 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: the difference in the way the broadhead was turned exactly. 401 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean it was there was I think up whether 402 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: the prong was to the right or to the left. Yeah, 403 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how that didn't didn't hit him. Yeah, 404 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: So I mean they were close, and you're you're talking 405 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: about a very minuscule amount of a deviation on aero 406 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: flight or the bird's flight, or the wind blowing to 407 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: be able to change all that. Well, I don't know 408 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: if I've said it yet, but I shot thirty five 409 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: times at pheasants today. Thirty five shots at pheasants, and 410 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: I straight up hit only one of them in the air, 411 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: dead solid, perfect shot one out of three. That that's 412 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: that statements not entirely true, because I did hit two 413 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: that were on the ground. I cut feathers off one. 414 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: You know, throughout the day, you know, when you're wings shooting, 415 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: you don't shoot a bird on the ground. But as 416 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: we got further throughout the day, a few times, you know, 417 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, we're just meat hunting here. 418 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: And we had a pheasant in some of this milo 419 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: that we could see standing up out there at about 420 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: maybe eighteen yards just looking at us, and the dog 421 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: was at point and um, and I just was like, Hey, 422 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to skill it shoot this thing. 423 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: And UM. I missed a couple on the ground, and 424 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: but one I just straight up hit right in the 425 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: tail feathers and uh, it didn't kill him. Cut his 426 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: cut his tail feathers off. Yeah, I'm gonna make some 427 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: trail flies out of that. So I appreciate him donating 428 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: that to the calls. Yeah, we probably could have just 429 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: ordered him on line for a little less drama than 430 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: what we went through to do this. But so thirty 431 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: five shots, thirty five shots and late in the day, 432 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: was it like shot number thirty two or thirty one 433 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: that you hit it? Yeah, it was, I think. So 434 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: that's pretty close. Well, shot number thirty one. Let's say 435 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: bird gets up right in front of us, goes to 436 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: my to my left and a heavy cross wind, and 437 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: uh draw and you're just drawing and snapshooting, drawing and snapshooting, 438 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: trying to have pressure on the back of that, you know, 439 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: on the string. When the birds about to get up, 440 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: you think, and I shot, and I mean, you know, 441 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: had to lead the bird because he was going horror, 442 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, perpendicular to me almost and just thud, just 443 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: just nailed the bird in the air. And man, I'll 444 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: be darned if that sucker didn't just fly off like 445 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't take him out of the air. 446 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean that it just hit him. We saw a 447 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a puff of feathers, and then we 448 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: watched him sail about another hundred yards and he did 449 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: a little dipsy do before he landed, which made us 450 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: think that we were gonna get him actually, and we 451 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: we went in there with the dog to try to 452 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: find him, and we never recovered the bird. But I 453 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't think it killed the bird. 454 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't think so either, because well, I mean, we 455 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: had the dog right there and we saw where he 456 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: went down, and I don't think he killed him. Well, 457 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: And that's when we learned about the broadheads, was that 458 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: we basically had to two times that the broadheads just 459 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: bounced off the animal. Hey, why don't you, why don't 460 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: you pull out the text message thread that behind my 461 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: back that you were right into a few So I 462 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: had a group of text message with my oldest nephew 463 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: in my and my older brother and I was giving 464 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: I give him a rundown. I sent him a text 465 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: this morning at like seven thirty and I said, Hey, 466 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: we're filming a pheasant hunt in Kansas today at upland 467 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: in hunts. Send him a link to the website so 468 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: they could check it. Out and I said, Clay is 469 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: gonna be using this primitive a bow. I'm sure we're 470 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna be having bologne it for supper tonight. So they 471 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: got a little charge out of that. They both, Yeah, 472 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: they give they they give the uh the complementary ha 473 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: ha you know l O L. So about three oh three, 474 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: I sent him a texts were over nineteen so far. 475 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: My oldest nephew's responsibles. Dad Gum, my oldest brother says, well, 476 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: you're no more surprised than I am. Somebody needs to 477 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: be backing that guy with a shotgun. At least y'all 478 00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: can get something to eat. Seven minutes later, it's three 479 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: e ten and we're oh, so, you know that was 480 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: something to be said that when you talked about you know, 481 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: the action was steady, you know, it was we were 482 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: getting on we were covering ground, we were getting on birds, 483 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: and the opportunities were were there, so we got after 484 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: I said, oh, for one, my oldest nephew says, you know, 485 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: we may be looking at a new record. And my 486 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: response to that was he's raising or lowering the bar 487 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: with every shot, So I guess it's you know, how 488 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: you want to interpret that. And then The text of 489 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 1: the day was the response that said from my nephew 490 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: that says, I guess it could be both the man 491 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: is setting new heights of suckage. You just do you 492 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: clay and so on to say, oh my gosh. They 493 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: they talked about said, well, it looks like you guys 494 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: are gonna be eating at the Sonic. When I set 495 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: the text for over thirty two, Matthews come back and said, 496 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: maybe maybe play you tried shooting. That's some sitting hens. 497 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: You might be able to get a couple of those. 498 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: Man These guys anyway, they they were they were really 499 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: thrilled that we were up here doing this and thought 500 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: it was way cool. And they also thought, you guys 501 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: will not kill any pheasants, and they were ready and 502 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: they were right. They were right. They were right this time. 503 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: Well so we uh. I feel good though, because I did. 504 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: I said that if we came up here today and 505 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I killed one f Now I did say if I 506 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: killed one pheasant, that the trip would be a success. 507 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: And I shot one pheasant good enough to kill it. Yeah, 508 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: I actually too, if we count the one on the 509 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: ground good enough to kill but we didn't kill him. 510 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: That the era just bounced off of and but you know, 511 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: I think the moral of the story inside of this is, um, 512 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: wings shooting wing, Shooting birds is super fun and don't 513 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: be afraid to just try something different. Like we certainly 514 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: could have brought shotguns up here and we could have 515 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: both limited it out by noon. Oh gosh, yeah yeah, 516 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: by noon we had been on fifteen or so. I 517 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: would think we took a little break and ate lunch. 518 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: And the limit of the limit in Kansas for for 519 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: pheasants is for pheasants per license, hunter per day. And 520 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: um anyway, man, it was a super fun hunt. I 521 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: think we're gonna make a video. I'm not sure exactly 522 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: how it's gonna go down, but you'll probably be able 523 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: to see me missing uh thirty three out of thirty 524 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: five times. You know, Uh, wing shooting is not easy 525 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: with a shotgun. It is a really not easy shooting 526 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: a bow. Yeah, yeah, I want to do it again. 527 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: It can be done. I know it can be done. 528 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: We need to change up our broad head and we 529 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: got to come up with some type of drill. So 530 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be me hitting softballs 531 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: with a bat and you're shooting at them or or what. 532 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: But it's gonna take uh, it's it'll just gonna take 533 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: some practice. Yeah, well, I think it. I think it 534 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: would also help to do it in multiple days. We 535 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: were going back out tomorrow after thirty five shots. Today, 536 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: I feel like I would just be a little more 537 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: in tune with what was about to happen because about 538 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: the first fifteen shots, I learned all the moves that 539 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: pheasant have. Okay, I mean, like if a pheasant getting 540 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: up could be categorized, I bet there's fifteen different ways 541 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: that they can do it. Sometimes they come straight up, 542 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes they go with the wind and stay low. Pheasant 543 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: can fly probably quarter mile, or they might just fly 544 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,479 Speaker 1: fifties sixty seventy yards in light so you can go 545 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: you can go after him again. So you know, there 546 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: was yeah, well a lot of a lot of birds 547 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: we got more than one shot at because we would 548 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: watch where they went and go get them. And so, 549 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, the first fifteen shots, I was just learning 550 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: what pheasants do, and then after that I was a 551 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: lot a lot, uh, I mean I kind of knew 552 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: what was probably gonna happen, but you just you know, 553 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: there were a couple of times when I was just 554 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: out of position when I had a real good opportunity. 555 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: The very first shot that I shot at today, I 556 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: actually cut feathers And that was probably the most ideal 557 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: pheasant movement of the day. It was cover a bird 558 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: in thick cover that came straight up and just kind 559 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: of hovered there for a minute almost and I was 560 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: able to shoot, and I mean it just, oh, it 561 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: looked like it just was gonna torch him, probably five 562 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: or six yards away when he comes up. Yeah, and 563 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: and and you know, cut feathers off the bird. And 564 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: uh so you know, there were there were a lot 565 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: of shots that just looked good but super fun. And 566 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think we we wanted to talk about 567 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: like some of the benefits of small game hunting. But 568 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm I'm a big game hunter 569 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: at heart, big time, but if you can branch out 570 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: do some social hunting. You know that You've heard me 571 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: talk about it so many times. But there's so many 572 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 1: benefits to small game hunting, none of not of which 573 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: the least is uh, the social aspects of it. I mean, 574 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: if we were deer hunting today or bear hunting today, 575 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: we probably would all been off by ourselves and coming 576 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: back to camp to talk about what happened. But you know, 577 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: we're together all day with our guide Arden and just 578 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: had a good time. We probably walked there. Brent was 579 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: getting closer to ten miles. I was guessing closer to 580 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: seven to eight miles that we walked. I mean we 581 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: walked a lot today, truly walked on the ground. You know, 582 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: the grounds, its flat ground. It's it's pretty easy walking. 583 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: There's no issues there, you know. It was and the GUIDs, 584 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, are and he put us, he would put 585 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: us out, put us in one direction, taking the dogs. 586 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: We take the dogs. We'd go into the wind with 587 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: the dogs and he, you know, he may come around 588 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: on the other side a quarter of a mile away 589 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: and pick us up and then we would you know, 590 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: go to a different different area or whatever. So there 591 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of a lot of movement. We traveled 592 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of fields that we looked at. 593 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: So they and they've got many they got a lot 594 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: of places to hunt up there, and a lot of birds. 595 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: So it was it was something all the time. There 596 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: was no there was no downtime, no downtime. We didn't 597 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: even break for lunch. We knew we had one day 598 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: to get it done. If we had a couple of days, 599 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: we probably would have taken a little bit more easy. 600 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: But when uh, when uh, when it came lunchtime, you know, 601 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: we we could have broke and gone back and had 602 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: lunch in town or something, and I just said, hey, 603 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: let's just keep hunting. Let's just eat some snacks and 604 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: just keep hunting. But anyway, small game hunting is fun, 605 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: super fun, great time of year to do it, whether 606 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: you're squirrel hunting or pheasant hunting. And and you know, 607 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: these hunts aren't aren't cheap, but at the same time, 608 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 1: they're not expensive. Like if a guy was going to uh, 609 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: if a guy was gonna plan for this, you know, 610 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: a lot of these places are around four hundred dollars 611 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: uh a day for for hunting and and having a 612 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: place to stay and having meals and whatnot. The facilities 613 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: were very nice, the food was awesome. Yeah, you know, 614 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: and if you think about even going on a vacation, 615 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: let's just say you were gonna go on a three 616 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: day vacation, you know you're gonna and you're gonna stay 617 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: in a decent hotel, You're gonna spend a hundred hundred 618 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: dollars two hundred and fifty dollars on a decent hotel 619 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: wherever you're gonna stay and anyway. I mean, that's a 620 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: lot of money to me. But at the same time, 621 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: that's not a lot of money. Um, so it's it's affordable. 622 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: And this was an outfitted hunt for sure. And now 623 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: there's there's places where you can hunt, uh do it 624 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: yourself hunting if you've got dogs, um, but not out here, 625 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: and I can tell you probably wouldn't have. I doubt 626 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: there's many places where you could get as much action 627 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: as we did in a short amount of time. But 628 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: it was a fun hunt, absolutely fun hunt, well worth 629 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: the trip, well worth a six hours. Not my only 630 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: complaint that this gas station coffee that was straining through 631 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: an old tennis shoe that we stopped about ten minutes 632 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: ago and got the guy that looked like he'd come 633 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: just here with the pork job. Yeah that's that guy. 634 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: Don't be him. Hey, this is just gonna be our 635 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: a short podcast. Wanted to talk to you about our 636 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you about our our pheasant hunt in Kansas. 637 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: You can check out this video at bar Hunting Magazine 638 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: YouTube channel and Brent. Any closing thoughts. Let's see, if 639 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: we're keeping score, you were one for thirty five and 640 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: I was thirty five for thirty five. But I wish 641 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: you mine with them. M hmmm. That makes me feel 642 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: real good man. It makes me feel real warm and 643 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 1: cozy inside. That's all I got. Bro's a good time, 644 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: always a good time with you, and I enjoy it. Well, 645 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: thanks for going, man, So all right, we'll keep the 646 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: wild places wild because that's where the pheasants live. Forever. 647 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: Peasants foreverm