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Speaker 1: training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnyard, California.
Speaker 1: Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronks, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: and welcome into Talking Cowboys final week of training camp
Speaker 1: out here in Oxnard, California. And boy, do we have
Speaker 1: a show today, A full hour to digest Cowboys Niners
Speaker 1: seventeen nine San Francisco wins the season opener on Saturday
Speaker 1: night from Levi's Stadium. We all made it back safely,
Speaker 1: and we've got a lot of time to discuss everything.
Speaker 1: First team, second team, third team highlights, lowlights. How are
Speaker 1: you guys? Mickey and Brian brought using well, doing well,
Speaker 1: Ready to dive into this thing, putty to get too.
Speaker 1: As you said, I like the words safely Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Long drive back from you. Another feet of strength from
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, getting us through the night, through the fog,
Speaker 1: almost beat the bus back. Yeah, well safely though, he's
Speaker 1: a safe driver. Rob My copolit got me home absolutely. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: we can we can take this anywhere we want to go.
Speaker 1: I was gonna break it into categories, but I really
Speaker 1: want to just kind of open up to you guys.
Speaker 1: Top stand out from this game the other night, thing
Speaker 1: that really stuck with you from watching four quarters of
Speaker 1: Finally some preseason action from this team, good or bad
Speaker 1: or both, either one both? Well, you know what, That's
Speaker 1: what preseason games are, right, a little bit of good,
Speaker 1: a little bit of bad, and you hope you don't
Speaker 1: get two injured. And the Cowboys got out of the
Speaker 1: game with just it looked like two injuries that we
Speaker 1: know of. Unfortunately for Luke Gifford, after a fine first
Speaker 1: half there, he had a couple of tackles, the interception
Speaker 1: I think he had, might have had a pass broken up,
Speaker 1: He made a nice tackle right right before the pick,
Speaker 1: right open field. And then and then he suffers the
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. When I bumped into him yesterday, he's
Speaker 1: walking around and crutches in a big old walking boot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounded like he said that he tore a ligament
Speaker 1: in his ankle. So that's the high ankle sprain and
Speaker 1: that's probably usually six weeks. So Cowboys will probably have
Speaker 1: a decision to make on what they do with a
Speaker 1: guy when the roster cut gets down, because I think
Speaker 1: they want to keep his right somehow. Say either you
Speaker 1: put him on the fifty three and act like he's
Speaker 1: the fifty third, or you put him on injured reserve
Speaker 1: and you can say, okay, we'll we'll recall him once
Speaker 1: his eight weeks are up and get him back on
Speaker 1: the team so he can practice, and then Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: will be in the concussion protocol this week. That was
Speaker 1: a vicious hit he took, sure did, but he got
Speaker 1: the past led him right into it though. Ejectionjection for
Speaker 1: that's how that's how vicious it was. And they didn't
Speaker 1: even have to look at it very long. So, uh,
Speaker 1: he'll be and that's unfortunate because of all the young receivers.
Speaker 1: He caught everybody's eye right, absolutely did. I think it's
Speaker 1: a great analogy and manny, and then he showed he
Speaker 1: can return return punts. The big thing on that is
Speaker 1: can you catch the punts right? And I thought both guys,
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis and Cedric did a nice job of catching
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah. I think that My biggest takeaway was
Speaker 1: I was really pleased with what the first defense was
Speaker 1: able to do. Again San Francisco, We're playing all their stars.
Speaker 1: Mullin's quarterback. You know, he's he's a quality quarterback if
Speaker 1: you watch how he gets rid of the football, moves
Speaker 1: things around. I was really encouraged how the secondary tackled.
Speaker 1: You know, they tried to get the ball out quick
Speaker 1: a couple of different times. You had a Woozier on
Speaker 1: a play. You had Jordan Lewis on a play. You know,
Speaker 1: you had Anthony Brown on a play. Tackling in the
Speaker 1: secondary is so important. Not only can these guys cover,
Speaker 1: but the ability to come up, make plays, get their
Speaker 1: guy on the ground, prevent that big run after catch.
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen a tackle get broken
Speaker 1: and then it turns into an extra twenty or twenty
Speaker 1: five yards. These guys didn't allow that from the first David.
Speaker 1: I loved what I saw from the linebackers too in this.
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about what Gifford was able to
Speaker 1: do coming in, but also how about Justin Phillips coming
Speaker 1: in second half, second half, and really, you know, he
Speaker 1: had the type of game tackling that I thought that
Speaker 1: that Luke Gifford was gonna have health provided, Yeah, provided, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so you know, this shows you the little bit
Speaker 1: of the depth that they have at there. And then
Speaker 1: people we had a question this morning, I think in
Speaker 1: the mail bag, and we worried about the depth of
Speaker 1: the team. Of what you've seen from the threes and stuff.
Speaker 1: I think there's some key guys that played well, you know,
Speaker 1: some of those backup guys that played well, and then
Speaker 1: the guys who didn't play well, well, they've got three
Speaker 1: more weeks and they could cut themselves. That's you know,
Speaker 1: that's something that the depth on this team will be,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, will be the right depth. If we're
Speaker 1: talking about keeping Luke Gifford as the fifty third guy,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good problem to have, folks, because he's
Speaker 1: worth he was going to, in all likelihood make this team.
Speaker 1: It's gonna it was gonna come down to likely him
Speaker 1: or Covington or one of those guys. But I do
Speaker 1: like what I saw defensively. I like what I saw
Speaker 1: from the first offense. Now people say, oh, well, what
Speaker 1: happened in the red zone, Brian, what happened with all that?
Speaker 1: Oh he's sighing, Oh no, no, no no, no, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The red zone stuff is you know, no Zeke,
Speaker 1: no Zach Martin, no Amari Cooper. They gave Jason Jason Witten. Okay,
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you worried about what you saw
Speaker 1: from Kellen Moore a matter of fact, from the broadcast
Speaker 1: booth watching and then going back and watching the tape.
Speaker 1: If that passes not tipped at the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: it's a touchdown to Blake Jarwin. I mean that made
Speaker 1: the right read to get it there. Now, if you
Speaker 1: want to talk about what happened at the end of
Speaker 1: the game, okay, that's that's Mike White trying to do
Speaker 1: something and you know he got caught all cuple. I
Speaker 1: mean again, they had Devin Smith running free in the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone and he tried to throw
Speaker 1: the ball underneath Darius Jackson was open on the fourth down.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he saw with pressure, but they're
Speaker 1: already there are opportunities. There were there were, And so
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here trying to blow smoke up everybody's
Speaker 1: rear right now and say, oh, but you do have
Speaker 1: to if you look at the first offense, you do
Speaker 1: have to see that what the players they were minus,
Speaker 1: and again they're not going to do anything really creative
Speaker 1: down there to make you feel like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you want him to score, but you
Speaker 1: know what it is, what it is. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sitting there. I'm not going to knee jerk after one game,
Speaker 1: one preseason game, because I think from what I've seen
Speaker 1: out here, I've seen this offense move the ball in
Speaker 1: the red zone against a good defense. That's what I've seen.
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not going to sit there and
Speaker 1: say Kellen Moore's is just an idiot and they know
Speaker 1: they don't know tap the brakes on all that. I
Speaker 1: think they'll go one in fifteen and never score a touchdown,
Speaker 1: canceled the season. Yeah this is because this is just
Speaker 1: a continuation of red zone from last year. Yeah, god,
Speaker 1: this is this is This is the pro and con
Speaker 1: of preseason because you get to evaluate the young guys
Speaker 1: on your team. But it also opens up to knee
Speaker 1: jerk reactions off of a nine play drive. And that's it.
Speaker 1: And and I am not You're right, we've seen some
Speaker 1: good things from this offensive camp, but I'm reserving declarations
Speaker 1: about Kellen Moore's offense till Week one of the regular season.
Speaker 1: Because there they gain nothing by showing their hand right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to see, That's the thing to me is that I
Speaker 1: I've seen enough and well I shouldn't say enough. I've
Speaker 1: seen things out here in these practices, the practices that
Speaker 1: we've been able to watch. That leads me to believe
Speaker 1: that Kellen Moore is creative. Kellen Moore has an idea
Speaker 1: of how he wants to get the ball to his personnel,
Speaker 1: and how he wants to use that personnel, and how
Speaker 1: he could fit this offense to fit Dak Prescott right
Speaker 1: and take advantage of this offensive line. You know. That's
Speaker 1: to me, that's the encouraging thing. I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: going to see that in a preseason game right now.
Speaker 1: I think, Look, the defense you mentioned did what they
Speaker 1: should have absolutely against the backup San Francis. All they
Speaker 1: did was start one wide receiver. The rest of their
Speaker 1: offense was backups to start the game. And so the
Speaker 1: defense did what they should have done. They lent them
Speaker 1: into twenty eight yards in the first quarter. That's what
Speaker 1: you want to see. The offense did what you wanted
Speaker 1: to see. They drove from the twenty eight down to
Speaker 1: the six yard line. So that's what you want to see. Okay,
Speaker 1: they didn't score, but as as as Brian said, the
Speaker 1: ball got batted. Otherwise it's a touchdown watching the film,
Speaker 1: and again it wasn't the red zone, but it was
Speaker 1: first and ten at the twenty four, and then it
Speaker 1: was first and ten at the twelve. So they did
Speaker 1: move the football and they weren't trying anything fancy. If
Speaker 1: you look at it, first and ten at the twenty four, Pollard,
Speaker 1: second and seven at the twenty one, he throws a
Speaker 1: little short pass for a couple of yards. Third and one,
Speaker 1: it's Pollard again. Then it's first and ten Pollard again.
Speaker 1: So they were trying to run the ball right and
Speaker 1: get Pollard some work and then get him out of there.
Speaker 1: And one thing Jerry said, and Jerry's been through a
Speaker 1: lot of these preseasons he said afterward, was in these games,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at players, right, I'm not looking at the
Speaker 1: overall team. And how because there's so much interchange with
Speaker 1: substitutions and everything. I thought Tony he was really complimentary
Speaker 1: if Tony Pollard, he ran hard with the four carries
Speaker 1: that he got. You saw Blake Jarwin take advantage of
Speaker 1: some opportunities he wasn't getting the night off. Uh. And
Speaker 1: what I what was encouraging me was there was there
Speaker 1: was carry over with certain guys from what we've seen
Speaker 1: out here, right, Jarwin getting up the field, right, Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson building on a solid uh camp and making a
Speaker 1: case to grab a roster spot. Guys like that, And
Speaker 1: let's not go to sleep on Tacoo. Good game, you
Speaker 1: know with his rushes and uh that he created a
Speaker 1: hold for there and he had he had the hit
Speaker 1: and he had another hurry. Uh. Yeah, he had a
Speaker 1: he had a nice day, yes, and so um yeah.
Speaker 1: You just can't get carried away. How would you like
Speaker 1: to be San Francisco right now with practice today with
Speaker 1: eighteen penalties for two hundred and sixteen Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what it was eighteen that were assessed. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: There was a couple of double penalty plays and some
Speaker 1: that got declined. Right, they had over twenty penalties. I
Speaker 1: think the things we focus on the positive. I do
Speaker 1: think there was some negatives with I think there was
Speaker 1: some negatives with these young wide receivers, with the exception
Speaker 1: of Cedric Wilson. I was hopeful that we would see
Speaker 1: John Vay Johnson. We would see Jay link Guidon. We
Speaker 1: would see these guys come up with more plays, more options,
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny Johnson eight opportunities, three catches. You know,
Speaker 1: if it's more like seven and eight or six and eight,
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better about his game. That
Speaker 1: was a bad drop he had because they did everything right,
Speaker 1: and he did everything right except catch the football. They
Speaker 1: put the blocker up to take care of the a
Speaker 1: gap blitz, which they're not prepping for, but they know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, so they get guiding or excuse me,
Speaker 1: they get a chun in position, he makes the block.
Speaker 1: Cooper rush those a beautiful pass, a beautiful I mean,
Speaker 1: and it's timed well. The separations well, you know, but
Speaker 1: you don't get the finish. And I think that's that's
Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue right there. You wanted
Speaker 1: to see these guys come out and make Now you
Speaker 1: want another negative thing. They did not play the waggle
Speaker 1: the boot very well and the naked and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Play the game, yeah, I mean, when you've got crossers,
Speaker 1: when you've got to run with crossers or you've got
Speaker 1: to pick up crossers, that's that could be difficult. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta drop, you gotta turn, you gotta find guys,
Speaker 1: You gotta keep your eyes on the field. You know,
Speaker 1: is that safety play? Is that? You know? I want
Speaker 1: to ask that question today to Jason Garrett. You know,
Speaker 1: is you know? Is you know? Is there a concern
Speaker 1: about current concerns? Are wrong word? But when you're looking
Speaker 1: at it, he'll probably say, well, we weren't game planning
Speaker 1: for that stuff? Is that ephasis? But that's but no.
Speaker 1: But That's what I'm saying though, is is it? Is
Speaker 1: it one of those things where you're thinking, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this is something we need to work on. Because
Speaker 1: they did the first play of the game. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a backup. It was it was coming all the way
Speaker 1: from a woozy a side, you know. Was he carry
Speaker 1: He was carrying? And I'm thinking, okay, well it's supposed
Speaker 1: to pass or something like that. But if you I
Speaker 1: mean that to me? Was he really the only negative?
Speaker 1: I felt like though the broadcast boot during the game,
Speaker 1: I felt like that that Mitch Hyatt didn't play all
Speaker 1: that well. From the broadcast boot. It wasn't all Mitch Hyatt,
Speaker 1: though there was some Mitch Hyatt there where was a
Speaker 1: lot of Mitch Hyatt. I didn't feel like that watching
Speaker 1: the tape though. It wasn't that's just me about you
Speaker 1: watching the game and watching Sure he was getting beat regularly. Sure,
Speaker 1: but the thing was, you know my evaluation. You also
Speaker 1: had some breakdowns with Sue Philo. You also had some
Speaker 1: breakdowns with Redmond Campos. Campos, they all took a turn.
Speaker 1: Maybe four guys do their job, one guy not. But
Speaker 1: but but some of that's on Mike White too, holding
Speaker 1: the football. You know what I'm saying that some of
Speaker 1: that's on And you talk to people in the organization,
Speaker 1: they will tell you the one issue that they have
Speaker 1: with Mike White is holding the football. That's what they
Speaker 1: tell you. Throw it, throw it. It got to the
Speaker 1: point where Brad Sham was even saying he's back, throw it,
Speaker 1: throw it. I mean, we were talking in the broadcast
Speaker 1: and that's going to be the problem. And we saw
Speaker 1: with a sense of how he played a little bit
Speaker 1: of a sense of urgency in that game. Late in
Speaker 1: the game. Get rid of the ball, make throws go faster,
Speaker 1: play quicker play with pace. Guys are open, hit them.
Speaker 1: Don't wait for things to happen, You make things. Let
Speaker 1: it rip as John Kitten would rip. We just spent
Speaker 1: three minutes talking about guys that aren't going to be
Speaker 1: on this team. So Mike White, after that performance, okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's go there before you know, let's finish
Speaker 1: out the backup quarterback. But again, I appreciate you saying this,
Speaker 1: but again it's it's his I mean, it's his first
Speaker 1: game since exactly since. I thought, both of them on
Speaker 1: Rush two, first game since last preseason, and you know,
Speaker 1: and you can see it still hasn't played in a
Speaker 1: real game since twenty seventeen. I thought, on the flip side,
Speaker 1: the second team offensive line gave Cooper Rush a really
Speaker 1: good opportunity. Were three guys, three guys, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: is to a certain extent, I thought, and I wrote this,
Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Rush had better fortune than Mike White did.
Speaker 1: We always talk about in these preseason games union some
Speaker 1: protection to fully evaluate these. But San Francisco also had
Speaker 1: defensive linemen that were signed that day pass rushing, and
Speaker 1: they still had some mistress. Now, I think what happened
Speaker 1: is that Joe Looney I think was pretty consistent throughout.
Speaker 1: But Redman Sue Philo, Hyatt Campos. Those guys broke down.
Speaker 1: They're playing seventy something plays. They're not used to playing
Speaker 1: at any plays in the first game to the injuries
Speaker 1: they've had out here, no question sure. So just recapping
Speaker 1: the stats here, Cooper Rush played I believe one drive
Speaker 1: into the third quarter. Right took over after the first
Speaker 1: series that Dak played sixteen to twenty six, one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty two yards, seventy six point one rating, Mike
Speaker 1: White nine of twenty eighty seven yards, No touchdowns for
Speaker 1: either of these guys. Pocket awareness was poor for sacked
Speaker 1: three times, including a lost fumble. Yeah, it's got sacked
Speaker 1: once and I think each of his first three drives
Speaker 1: sack on a on a play. Now again, Weber missed
Speaker 1: a block that very well could have been a touchdown.
Speaker 1: He's loading up to throw the ball on the outside
Speaker 1: and they double moved the forty nine ers and they
Speaker 1: get a holding on the other side of the field,
Speaker 1: which you know negated the sack in the fumble. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're if I'm interested to see if Mickey,
Speaker 1: if if you feel like that that that game, even
Speaker 1: though they haven't played, even though they haven't played a
Speaker 1: whole year. Is that game so damaging for Mike White
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden now it's like we can
Speaker 1: only keep too cool? Well, it might be his best
Speaker 1: opportunity because you got a figure going forward. Dak's gonna
Speaker 1: get more in the second game. Rush you'll probably get
Speaker 1: the next and he's gonna get the scraps at the
Speaker 1: end the third game he may not get anything, and
Speaker 1: then the fourth game he gets to play again. So look,
Speaker 1: the biggest concern to me out of all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And there was guys that you wanted to see, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to see John Veya uh dropping balls,
Speaker 1: And he's done it now in the Blue White screm
Speaker 1: and in this you will still still love him. You
Speaker 1: just would still love him. Your backup offensive line would
Speaker 1: have would have played better, but the kicker missed the
Speaker 1: thirty five yard field goal, and that doesn't have to
Speaker 1: do with anything about anybody. L let's let's that's a
Speaker 1: great segue. Why don't we break early and come back
Speaker 1: with Brett Maher Because I feel like backup quarterback and
Speaker 1: the kicker might have been the two biggest topics going
Speaker 1: into this camp other than Zeke and contracts and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and that's what we're talking about most coming
Speaker 1: out of this game. So let's talk about Brett Maher
Speaker 1: in the kicking situation. How we assess that? Next? On
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Speaker 1: the show. We're talking preseason number one preseason practice. By
Speaker 1: the way, they're back at it today this afternoon. Four
Speaker 1: practices left in Oxnard. Is that correct about three and
Speaker 1: a half. Three and a half, you'll think Thursday's probably
Speaker 1: I'll walk through, don't you think before we leave, before
Speaker 1: they break camp? Maybe not? Maybe not practice practice days
Speaker 1: walk through. Yeah, they'll practice. Yeah, I was getting them
Speaker 1: off their feet all right, sooner, right? Is it one
Speaker 1: of those morning yeah? Yeah, so yeah, that's what happened.
Speaker 1: That's good those practices. I like the morning practices I
Speaker 1: do because it kind of gives us to get your
Speaker 1: opportunity to get some stuff done and kind of figure
Speaker 1: some things out. Yeah, we got to kind of pack
Speaker 1: some things up here, and they don't able to wait
Speaker 1: till the end of the day to analyze what happened.
Speaker 1: You no question. Done by twelve thirty, absolutely, and then
Speaker 1: it's on the all right Aloha music or something not
Speaker 1: yet not yet Hawaii five Oh definitely when we get there. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, we've talked back up starters, backup quarterback. Let's
Speaker 1: let's go to kicker right now. Brett Maher. We've talked
Speaker 1: about him at camp. He's made some kicks, he's missed
Speaker 1: some you know, a couple of short kicks lately in camp.
Speaker 1: Saturday night he was three of four on field goals.
Speaker 1: He was good from twenty five forty thirty one. But
Speaker 1: as Mickey said before the break, it's that thirty five
Speaker 1: yard miss that everybody's harping on. Yeah. See. And you
Speaker 1: can say, okay, well you made three out of four. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's seventy five percent. I want my kicker in
Speaker 1: the high eighties. Boo. But when you miss from thirty five,
Speaker 1: if he had missed from forty eight, kind of ominous music.
Speaker 1: Then I watched, Okay, he made, he made three out
Speaker 1: of four, and his miss was from forty eight. I
Speaker 1: can excuse that, but you can't keep missing the short one,
Speaker 1: you know. And the problem is it's it's it's that's
Speaker 1: kind of where he left off last year two. At
Speaker 1: the end he was six of ten I think down
Speaker 1: the stretch on field goal. Yeah. So, I mean, it
Speaker 1: just causes you to raise your eyebrows. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what you can do about it. But at some point,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing, everybody keeps bringing up Matt Bryant, who's
Speaker 1: forty four years old. Yeah, the Vikings traded for the
Speaker 1: guy evidently from the Ravens. So were they worried about
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey? They were worried about Dan Bailey. They went
Speaker 1: proactive and just when Head gave up a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick for the rights for the kicker at Baltimore. So
Speaker 1: that tells you what's out there available right now, sou.
Speaker 1: But at some point, don't you think you just kind
Speaker 1: of bring some guys in and work them out to
Speaker 1: just see I think when we get back to I
Speaker 1: think when we get back to the Star, right, and
Speaker 1: they'll have that opportunity where they'll have the indoor facility,
Speaker 1: they'll have us away. I don't think they want to
Speaker 1: parade a bunch of kickers through here while we're while
Speaker 1: it's diving on the field, which I'll do nothing for
Speaker 1: the guys does not either. Right. The problem is, though,
Speaker 1: if we're worried about the guy's confidence, how about the
Speaker 1: confidence in you if we're the coaching staff. You know
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, Mickey, I think you're dead on right
Speaker 1: about this. If it's a forty seven yard field goal
Speaker 1: to fifty one yard field goal to fifty three yard
Speaker 1: field goal, then you missed those. I get it. But
Speaker 1: he's been in two situations out here, folks, where they've
Speaker 1: driven the ball in a two minute drill, and he's
Speaker 1: missed both those kicks Blue White scrimmage, and then did
Speaker 1: it the other day quote unquote game winning Yeah, game
Speaker 1: winning situations where you look at that if they call
Speaker 1: it play it out and they're playing it out to
Speaker 1: try and win the game, and Dak and everybody make
Speaker 1: it plays or spike and balls. They're getting it up.
Speaker 1: They have four seconds left, they line it up and
Speaker 1: again it's not a fifty two yard field goal, it's
Speaker 1: a thirty five yard field goal, and then it's no good.
Speaker 1: Does you know, does your confidence? Does the team have
Speaker 1: confidence in you? And you know they can keep saying that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we're charting, we're doing this. You're on the
Speaker 1: other field watching seven on seven. Okay, I get it directed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I trust you. But also, this league is so tough too.
Speaker 1: If he comes down to losing games. But if you're
Speaker 1: losing games because you're missing thirty five yard fuel goals,
Speaker 1: that makes it even worse. You know that that that
Speaker 1: right there is the big gut punch, And so they
Speaker 1: have to be if you're talking about confidence, you know,
Speaker 1: us having confidence or lack of How about the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: how about his teammates? How about those folks that's where
Speaker 1: that's where this is all. Because when you drive the
Speaker 1: ball to the seventeen yard line, yeah, you gotta score.
Speaker 1: You gotta score. If it's three points, it's three points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a score now. He made the one right
Speaker 1: before half. Beautiful drive to get to get in fuel
Speaker 1: goal range. Job by Cooper Rush. Yes, Cooper Rush, moving
Speaker 1: the team every they try that one extra play to
Speaker 1: throw to Jarwin on the sidelines. It's too high to
Speaker 1: get him a little closer. But you know what, they
Speaker 1: did it right, They left himself And what happened when
Speaker 1: the ball went through the uprights. It was zero zero
Speaker 1: zero on the clock, right perfect. Couldn't do it any better.
Speaker 1: It was like what we see out Yeah, when they
Speaker 1: practice situations, right, he cannot he cannot miss those field goals.
Speaker 1: But I will, I will say those field goals that
Speaker 1: are fifty plus, Okay, I get it. But he seems
Speaker 1: to be really good at those. He seems to be
Speaker 1: outstanding it though he tied Bailey last year I think
Speaker 1: for the most over fifty buy a kicker in a
Speaker 1: season from Cowboys history, and that's six out of seven
Speaker 1: and it's but it's those money kicks. Yeah, those those
Speaker 1: kicks keep them going like Okay, you know it's it's
Speaker 1: the ball on the right hash. Yeah, and it's the
Speaker 1: same where he started missing last year on the right hash.
Speaker 1: Here's what Jerry said about it on Saturday night. And
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem concerned at the moment. He said quote,
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. It was the only way
Speaker 1: we scored tonight. You'd like for him to hit him all,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad he got the ones he got. We've
Speaker 1: got more camp days and continue to evaluate him. That's
Speaker 1: similar to what Jason Garrett said. Continue to evaluate in
Speaker 1: his case, we will evaluate last year and this year.
Speaker 1: Just to sum it up, we don't have any different
Speaker 1: opinion about him after the game than we had before
Speaker 1: the game. I wonder how much of it because we've
Speaker 1: talked about it. What's out there that that's a better option.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of talent, He's got a very
Speaker 1: strong legs. Yeah, and keep building his confidence up and
Speaker 1: see if the consistency is there, and just keep giving
Speaker 1: him chance. Don't give Redfern chances. This is your kicker.
Speaker 1: Keep getting him, giving him chances in these preseason games
Speaker 1: and see if this corrects itself. Well, that's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. They'll let Redford punt. They gotta let him kick,
Speaker 1: and as Jason said, keep giving him more opportunities. What's
Speaker 1: out there? We'll tell you what's out there. If there
Speaker 1: was something out there in Minnesota, wouldn't have traded a
Speaker 1: draft and somebody else's So that kind of gives you
Speaker 1: an idea of what's out there. And I think if
Speaker 1: you talk to folks here or they'll tell you there's
Speaker 1: not much out there. And and I don't Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I said this the other day, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what's happened with kickers coming out of college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe because they score touchdowns so much,
Speaker 1: the kicker only hand to kick extra points and they're
Speaker 1: kicking short extra points. So yeah, it's just it's just something.
Speaker 1: When you talk about the stuff that really went wrong,
Speaker 1: most of the stuff went wrong would backups except for him.
Speaker 1: He's your guy, he's your kicker. All the other stuff
Speaker 1: is peripheral stuff. The offensive linemen that aren't going to
Speaker 1: make this team. Uh, you know, maybe a wide receiver too,
Speaker 1: not going to make this team. But for most part,
Speaker 1: you know, the the backup defense actually did cease it job, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know when they turned the ball over that time,
Speaker 1: they they hung in there for a field goal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's all you can ask for. So uh young.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't mention Joe Jackson first play in
Speaker 1: the NFL, be it preseason or not. Jalen Jelkes gets
Speaker 1: a sack right right, and he almost had another one.
Speaker 1: Uh So there was some good stuff up front, and
Speaker 1: they moved Joe Jackson. He had been playing on the
Speaker 1: left side. Yeah, right, said the radio. I was surprised
Speaker 1: because it's usually the opposite. Usually Jokes rushes from the
Speaker 1: right and then and Jackson plays from the left. But
Speaker 1: you're right, Mickey, gets a good eye because they've they've
Speaker 1: flipped it there and maybe that's something they'll flip back.
Speaker 1: We'll see it. But you know, I'm waiting to see
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson plays some at defensive tackle too. That's what
Speaker 1: they've kind of talked about. There was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a plan. Hey on the periscope, Mickey, any update
Speaker 1: you've heard on Noah Brown at all, anything about him
Speaker 1: getting in the mix. He seems to me like he's
Speaker 1: going to make this team by default. Really if he
Speaker 1: doesn't practice out here well, right, I mean maybe when
Speaker 1: they get back to the Star after the Hawaii trip, right,
Speaker 1: because I see him doing a little bit more each time,
Speaker 1: and you know, that might be an indication that he's
Speaker 1: an automatic, right, Like they say, we're going to keep them,
Speaker 1: so we want to make sure he's healthy for the
Speaker 1: start of the season. I think they've view his role
Speaker 1: that he's had here is more important than maybe you
Speaker 1: might think. You know, I mean, I know he's not
Speaker 1: been he hasn't been a big factor in the receiving game,
Speaker 1: but what he does on special teams and they obviously
Speaker 1: must like his potential at receiver, yeah, big target. Um.
Speaker 1: I know I'm talking to the wrong guy here, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think they do value him well
Speaker 1: and I expect him to make the team. Basically, do
Speaker 1: these young guys that we've been talking about between Johnson, Guiton, uh,
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis, they gotta they gotta start producing in the games,
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Absolutely something that one thing to do it
Speaker 1: out here in practice. Absolutely gotta do what Cedric Wilson did.
Speaker 1: Absolutely go out there and said, oh there's Cedric Wilson.
Speaker 1: You know what they thought a lot of him last year. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they didn't wave him injured. They kept him on
Speaker 1: IR the whole season after he had the shoulder surgery. Rob,
Speaker 1: this question for you there, what defensive end? And Mackey
Speaker 1: you could jump in. I'll jump in as well. What
Speaker 1: defensive end? Do you like the most of those young guys?
Speaker 1: Of the young guys, Um, there's so many of them,
Speaker 1: give me a roster. I've always wow your jokes as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, when we and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: when they're going to post at our top ten right rookies, right,
Speaker 1: Jelkes was pretty high numb. Yeah, yeah, Um, I don't
Speaker 1: you count Kerry Hyder as a young veteran guy because
Speaker 1: give him half credit on Luke Giffords Dinner A great hit. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I would go with Jolkes. He's got an unusual build,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's Jason Taylor looking That's what I said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to make a direct comparison there,
Speaker 1: but Hall of Famer. Yeah, exactly, build, build looks, and
Speaker 1: he's got in his game. He's got deceptive strength for
Speaker 1: being about two hundred and fifty. He's he's a guy
Speaker 1: that may continue to progress just based off of his
Speaker 1: puer ability. We'll see. Yeah, I you know what if
Speaker 1: you count, you know, if you count, Doward's armstrong. But
Speaker 1: I mean, now you're okay. See, I didn't even think
Speaker 1: about him because he's to me, he's been on the
Speaker 1: team for a year, he's getting first team reps. To me,
Speaker 1: he's kind of established. Yeah, okay, Well if he's okay,
Speaker 1: if you're going for the non established guys getting distracted
Speaker 1: that I would. I would say that jokes makes a
Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot of sense, and I think
Speaker 1: that Joe Jackson will find a way to continue to develop.
Speaker 1: There's just too much power in that body. You know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the quickness of jokes, but he's got power.
Speaker 1: He's got that that that when he hits you. We
Speaker 1: saw it out here Blue White. He made some tackles
Speaker 1: the other day. I mean, when he hits you, you stop.
Speaker 1: He plays with that power. I think there's something to that.
Speaker 1: So I would if you guys would go with jokes,
Speaker 1: I'll take the other end and say, just because physically
Speaker 1: I like what Joe Jackson looks like, two different types
Speaker 1: of players, and right because he's two eighty five And
Speaker 1: you said playing inside a little bit. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: that might get him on the team. No, no update
Speaker 1: on a governance update is just he's maybe not until
Speaker 1: we get we get back exactly exactly. And that's another
Speaker 1: one that could be, you know, on ir recall, depending
Speaker 1: on what happens with veteran guys that you want to
Speaker 1: keep if they get injured. One more thing on the
Speaker 1: kicker situation. I think the microscope is there for a
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. I mean, do you think do you
Speaker 1: think in any part of this we're a little spoiled
Speaker 1: by what Dan Bailey hit did here? Fye, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: didn't mean to go away from Dan Bailey talker or
Speaker 1: what we're talking about there. Yeah, no, absolutely, but again,
Speaker 1: you'd like your kicker to make in the if you can.
Speaker 1: I think there was only seven guys last year that
Speaker 1: were in ninety percent range of conversions. You'd like at
Speaker 1: least high eighties, right right, And he was working eighty
Speaker 1: point six. This guy was ranking twenty fourth in the league.
Speaker 1: It was like close to eighty. Yeah. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think that when you're a team with this high expectations,
Speaker 1: the short ones season good shape. Yeah, you played six
Speaker 1: games last year decided by three points or less. Right,
Speaker 1: that decides your season. Yeah, I mean that. That's that's
Speaker 1: why we're talking. That's why people were talking about it.
Speaker 1: But I think they're still trying to, you know, keep
Speaker 1: his confidence high and hope this corrects itself. Just go
Speaker 1: score touchdowns. Well that too. Did you see anything with
Speaker 1: with the with the veteran offic to line. Did you
Speaker 1: keep an eye on Travis Frederick in this game any
Speaker 1: at all? I thought he was okay, yeaddy too. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on this. I just thought I was trying
Speaker 1: to get your opinion on this before I gave my
Speaker 1: first first first time back since twenty seventeen playing a game. Right.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you said, oh gosh, yeah, there's a liability.
Speaker 1: He's a mile away. Yeah, he was fine. I didn't
Speaker 1: see anything, and they didn't seem to have any confusion. No, no, ye,
Speaker 1: him and Connor Williams, and then you know, they did
Speaker 1: a nice job of picking things up with at Sue
Speaker 1: Filo and those guys. I think Sue Field got tired
Speaker 1: this conditioning. I don't think it's great, but but to
Speaker 1: watch to watch TVs, there was one time he was
Speaker 1: on the ground and he was kind of like he
Speaker 1: got embarrassed by it because he slid over to help,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they got he got
Speaker 1: he's trying to go up to get the run through,
Speaker 1: and he kind of got all balanced and you could
Speaker 1: tell he was sitting on the ground like, Okay, why
Speaker 1: am I on the ground? You know you can't kind
Speaker 1: of get that. Look, yeah, I'm not supposed to be
Speaker 1: on the ground here right now because he's always playing
Speaker 1: on his feet. But I think for the most part, though,
Speaker 1: the communication with the line when you watch Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: and him have to move. Hell, they had the front
Speaker 1: of a pocket so clean. One time the past that
Speaker 1: went inside on the curl to Michael Gallup was they
Speaker 1: were trying to throw the slant to Tavon Austin and
Speaker 1: he had enough time to say uh and then kind
Speaker 1: of hop over a couple of steps. Boom. That's the
Speaker 1: front of the pocket right there. Solid. When you cannot
Speaker 1: have to throw a slant to the right and come
Speaker 1: all the way back to a curl on the left
Speaker 1: and have the quarterback only moved two steps, that's a
Speaker 1: good job by the guys up front, and that's part
Speaker 1: of Travis Frederick and an You know, when we talk
Speaker 1: about this offense and what they did on their first possession,
Speaker 1: you know it wasn't like they were just missing guys, right,
Speaker 1: They're missing pro bowlers. Yeah right, Amari Cooper. We forget
Speaker 1: Zack Martin, Yeah, because we haven't seen him practice for
Speaker 1: a while. And and by the way, and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where a Witton will be, but he was a
Speaker 1: Pro bowler. So that's three Pro bowlers that that that
Speaker 1: were out of your lineup. And it wasn't like just guys.
Speaker 1: That's the red zone argument right there too. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's if you want to ey pieces the reds if
Speaker 1: you want to tell me, if you want to tell me,
Speaker 1: well tell them Moore red zone problems. I'll remind you
Speaker 1: of who all wasn't involved in. And I've been the
Speaker 1: guy all along. It says the red zone will improve
Speaker 1: because of Jason Witten, not only because it was blocking,
Speaker 1: but his ability to get up the field in that
Speaker 1: eighteen yard range and make plays down the field and
Speaker 1: just you know, just the knack he has for finding
Speaker 1: open space in tight situations. Um, yeah, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know where I was going. Oh, I interrupted with
Speaker 1: the pro bowlers out, I mean, and look out, look
Speaker 1: at the defense. Yeah. No DeMarcus Lawrence, no Sean Lee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd sell you the Cyrone Crawford, No Tyrone Crawford, No MALIEK. Collins.
Speaker 1: One thing on offense that did stand out for me,
Speaker 1: and that's Michael Gallup carrying over what we're seeing out here.
Speaker 1: One drive I know, nine plays, but he accounted for
Speaker 1: thirty nine yards pass Interferris Pilly. He drew tw twenty
Speaker 1: six years And that's that's him separating forcing over see.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that looks like he's gonna
Speaker 1: take a step. Yeah, he is going to take his mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's visible out here. You could you
Speaker 1: could tell he's put on a little bit more weight,
Speaker 1: but it hasn't affected his speed or quickness, and it's
Speaker 1: allowed him to be to fight better down the field.
Speaker 1: Where he would have probably got pushed off the field,
Speaker 1: he's not getting pushed him or See, that's the problem
Speaker 1: that John Bay Johnson had. You can coach to silence
Speaker 1: all a sudden, you're a lighter guy, they start leaning
Speaker 1: on your pushing on you getting off the field. They
Speaker 1: don't bully. They don't bully Gallop like they did before
Speaker 1: Gallop got bullied a little bit by But you see
Speaker 1: Gallop fight against a Woozier out here, It's like it's
Speaker 1: hand to hand combat off the line and then in
Speaker 1: a route and then all of a sudden it's slinging
Speaker 1: an elbow into and you see, you know, Woozier kind
Speaker 1: of get knocked back and he rallies. But then there's
Speaker 1: the ball. See if you know, that's the thing about it,
Speaker 1: when you make those contested catches, even when you don't
Speaker 1: have your best. That's what we're seeing from Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: at here. I am seeing a much more physical player.
Speaker 1: And you know, you got a physical player in Randall Cobb.
Speaker 1: He is a physical player. You throw him the football,
Speaker 1: he is going to run up the field. You know,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, you throw him the ball, he is going
Speaker 1: to run up the field. That's what the that's what
Speaker 1: they got with these receivers, you know, and you get
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin up the field. We saw what Blake jarmin.
Speaker 1: They run the they run the inside fake and what
Speaker 1: Jarwin's playing in line y to the left and comes
Speaker 1: all the way across boom ball over the top. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: try and cover that. And he had another one yeah,
Speaker 1: oh he had right down the wall, yeah, right down,
Speaker 1: yeah right. Oh it's Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: I mean they were in a two there, a two
Speaker 1: deep look and he hits it perfect and it's just
Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Cooper through it just a little far.
Speaker 1: I mean you could see him reach and the ball
Speaker 1: just off the edge of his But that's what you got.
Speaker 1: You got a guy, you know, Dak Prescott, Chony Billy
Speaker 1: little touchdown the field, boom drop it on him. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a thirty yard game right there. So when
Speaker 1: you saw it, go with to wit and do that.
Speaker 1: So when you're looking for breakout players, don't go to
Speaker 1: sleep on those two guys. Nope. Jarwin and I know
Speaker 1: Gallup was a starter last year and he got better
Speaker 1: that last third of the season. But watch out for
Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, for if you want to breakout guy,
Speaker 1: because now they can't slough off the other receivers and
Speaker 1: say we're taking Amrii Cooper away. It's, like Sanjay said
Speaker 1: last week, just an overall understanding of what defenses are
Speaker 1: trying to do to you. I mean that experience he
Speaker 1: got last year is just invaluable. Yeah. And then you
Speaker 1: take over his physical abilities with it, okay, a chance. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and folks are losing their mind on periscope right now,
Speaker 1: which they always do. What the Cowboy you can't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who they're playing. Okay, there's like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: playing their backups and all that. The Cowboys didn't play
Speaker 1: starters too, okay. And and if you want to sit
Speaker 1: there that you can't help who you're playing, you go
Speaker 1: out there and perform. You go out there and make plays.
Speaker 1: San Francisco is trying to figure out their lineup. They're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's gonna make their team. You know,
Speaker 1: don't act like that. It's not I hate when people
Speaker 1: say this. You play who you play, you know, that's
Speaker 1: what you do. They the first team out. I don't
Speaker 1: care who they're moving the ball on. They're moving the
Speaker 1: ball that that I don't care. That's you know, I
Speaker 1: don't That doesn't bother meosed to that they did what
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do other than a tip ball. The
Speaker 1: first offense is going to score touchdown. So don't don't
Speaker 1: sit there and tell me Oh they're playing their back
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about I just want
Speaker 1: to see them do things. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: them missfield goals. I don't want to see them drop passes.
Speaker 1: I don't care who they're playing. It gets worry about yourself.
Speaker 1: That's what you need to worry about these games. They
Speaker 1: not read my column. This was disappointing me. Now Mickey's
Speaker 1: column read outside gave them a good lecture on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they don't care, and and it bothers me. It
Speaker 1: bothers me because if they're doing what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: If they're doing what they're supposed to do, that's all
Speaker 1: you should care about. In the preseason. That's what we're
Speaker 1: focusing on. We're not focusing on. San Francisco had their
Speaker 1: backup guys out there. Hell, Dallas had their backup guy.
Speaker 1: They had a backup right guard. That might not make
Speaker 1: this team playing out there. San Francisco might be all
Speaker 1: back up. It's not fun to be rational, though, Brian.
Speaker 1: It's not fun. I just I just I just if
Speaker 1: you want to evaluate this team, evaluate the team, if
Speaker 1: they're doing what they're supposed to be do, evaluate that.
Speaker 1: If they're not supposed to. If they're not doing things
Speaker 1: that you're evaluate, then that's what you'd be critical. I
Speaker 1: think that's what we're trying to do here. But you
Speaker 1: can't help who you're gonna play. You can't help it that.
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said, you know what, I hate the preseason.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to play twenty eight of my guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't care him. I'm trying to evaluate my
Speaker 1: team and him doing that. Did their team get better? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you got away with your starters being out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got some experience, knock some rust off, and they
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. For the most part, everybody was healthy.
Speaker 1: Now now people are trying to crawfish on me. You're
Speaker 1: not crawfishing on me, all right, Yes, no, you're you're saying,
Speaker 1: oh no, you're I'm missing the point. No, BS, I
Speaker 1: am not missing the points. Watch yourself. I'd boil him
Speaker 1: quite well. I think you know that. The thing about
Speaker 1: it is, though, evaluate who's playing. Are they playing well
Speaker 1: or they playing poorly? That's your evaluation, not who they're
Speaker 1: lining up across from. That's BS on your part. Sorry,
Speaker 1: all right, I like it. All right, let's take our
Speaker 1: final break. Keep firing up on periscope. Yeah, I appreciate
Speaker 1: your first go. Just be careful. Yeah, send us some questions.
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Speaker 1: access management, assets managed asset management? Is it now? What's
Speaker 1: the thing? Stephen Jones says, distribution, dilemma, distribution. That's about
Speaker 1: how we got another one. We're gonna have to make
Speaker 1: a list of that as we go. A lot. I
Speaker 1: like that from Jack two word terms right again? Do
Speaker 1: we need to give the address Jack Black? You know
Speaker 1: where we live? Fine, send Mickey a big box. Mickey
Speaker 1: will be nice and give us our Jack Black. They
Speaker 1: also have another thing, Go and find your regiment. Want
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Speaker 1: So they'll give you a Q and a tasty guy
Speaker 1: like me? Yeah, pasty man, pasty man, dry skin, try skin, pastymon,
Speaker 1: wrankling skin, old man, bake fourheads say, whoa what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Mickey got a big four here? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it gets a little bigger. We all got issues. Jack
Speaker 1: Black helps, Hey, don't crawfish. Brian brought us by the way,
Speaker 1: you whoever did that on periscope, She's got the stare
Speaker 1: into the camera. Guys, he knows you know, and I
Speaker 1: trust trust me. I love I love the fact that
Speaker 1: we get to interact with the fans. I appreciate you fans,
Speaker 1: I really, I really do. And I and but I
Speaker 1: will say this, though you have no control over who
Speaker 1: you play, you don't. So was the issue with the
Speaker 1: defense like they wanted style points? Then they thought Alabama
Speaker 1: was playing uh, you know, Troy, and they you know,
Speaker 1: it needed to win by one hundred and six. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it is, I I've always done
Speaker 1: this my all my professional life. You evaluate the practice,
Speaker 1: you evaluate now that we always talk about this if
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill finds a way to win against Connor Williams
Speaker 1: or Zack Martin and it's one every four, you know.
Speaker 1: But but we also say, well, hey, look Taco won
Speaker 1: one time against Tyrn Smith. Wait, Taco's winning against you know,
Speaker 1: can't flaming a little bit. That's good though, as long
Speaker 1: as he's winning. That's the thing that that it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who it is, just as long as you find it.
Speaker 1: And if you if you're playing poorly, well you'll see that.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's against an all pro or
Speaker 1: just a down the line guy. Just that's how you
Speaker 1: should evaluate preseason. It's you have no control over who
Speaker 1: well Kyle Shanahan plays in these games, and it's none
Speaker 1: It's the full body of work. Because I keep talking
Speaker 1: about consistency. What we're seeing out here is the defense
Speaker 1: give a pretty good offense with a lot of talent.
Speaker 1: Some trouble out here. Yeah, and it carried over with
Speaker 1: these The most impressive thing I saw, my opinion, in
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of practice is the way the
Speaker 1: secondary has been flying around out here. Yeah. And that's
Speaker 1: what we saw, guys making open field tackles, Cheeto making
Speaker 1: a great play on the ball, and without by Jones,
Speaker 1: without Byron Jones, that's it's encouraging. You know. It's funny.
Speaker 1: Ask me, what does crawfishing mean. Crawfish in Louisiana swim backwards.
Speaker 1: They swim backwards. They don't swim forwards. They swim backwards.
Speaker 1: So if you're crawfishing, that means you're swimming backwards. You're
Speaker 1: in it, you're in the middle. You're trying to get
Speaker 1: into the boiling pot. Oh I'm getting out the boiling pot.
Speaker 1: So that's what crawfishing means if the folks had asked me,
Speaker 1: don't be crawfishing, don't crawfish on me now. And I
Speaker 1: appreciate folks that come with an opinion, I really do,
Speaker 1: but I think you have to evaluate what it is.
Speaker 1: You know, we need your entirely too much, we really do,
Speaker 1: you know I. And I appreciate Mickey saying what he
Speaker 1: did about Mike White. You're talking to the Mike White champion.
Speaker 1: You're talking to the guy that threw it up on
Speaker 1: the table and said draft Mike White. Okay, that's wrong
Speaker 1: right now. It looks bad. It does, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to crawfish away from it, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: to me, Mike White is a better player. What I
Speaker 1: saw in the two minute drill is more what Mike
Speaker 1: White is. That's what I saw Mike White. Mike White
Speaker 1: needs to do that every time he takes the snap,
Speaker 1: not hold the ball and take sacks and show poor
Speaker 1: pocket awareness. That's not Mike White. Mike White is a
Speaker 1: much better player, but is he playing like that right now?
Speaker 1: Mike White is going to play poorly enough to make
Speaker 1: them keep two quarterbacks, and he probably won't be the
Speaker 1: second quarterback if he continues on this path. But he
Speaker 1: is a better player than this, he really is. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of better players out there that should be
Speaker 1: playing better. Yeah, John Vay Johnson showed me the other
Speaker 1: day he's a better player out here. And he got
Speaker 1: in the game and all of a sudden, it's like
Speaker 1: he got nervous. He said he gets the rams. He
Speaker 1: said he had to get over some some jitters. That's
Speaker 1: normal for a rookie. And Mickey said, he's had some drops.
Speaker 1: I still love his potential all but he's still he's
Speaker 1: still got to show it, you know, when these lights
Speaker 1: come on his next game to get a spot on
Speaker 1: the fifth to get at the other thing you need
Speaker 1: to remember is the guys that didn't play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: There were seven Pro bowlers, either recent or some point
Speaker 1: in their career. They were Pro Bowlers when San Francisco
Speaker 1: didn't play their starters. How many Pro bowlers did they
Speaker 1: have that sat out? And my guess is maybe one two.
Speaker 1: I'm not versed on their history in Pro Bowls, but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not equitable. So when you missed the
Speaker 1: likes of Martin Witton, Cooper, Byron Jones, DeMarcus Lawrence, Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: and Lee. You're you're missing top flight players out there,
Speaker 1: so don't make hasty evaluations of backups and guys that
Speaker 1: aren't going to make this team, all right? Question from
Speaker 1: Jake Off of Twitter. Donovan Wilson got an interception, Yes,
Speaker 1: my aggie, Yes, will he jump up the depth chart?
Speaker 1: You know what? I think that we're starting. He had
Speaker 1: blue white scrimmage, got a ten plays in that couple
Speaker 1: of tackles, looked physical. Nice break on the ball that
Speaker 1: they convert. You know, it's like they go from a
Speaker 1: too deep look to a single high look and he
Speaker 1: comes down, reads the quarterback makes the interception. He should
Speaker 1: absolutely get some more work, you know what. Let him
Speaker 1: get some work on ahead of Thompson. You know, let
Speaker 1: him get some work ahead of Frasier. You know what,
Speaker 1: Frasier and Thompson have had some good days. But you
Speaker 1: know this isn't just show up and punched the card
Speaker 1: and oh, I've play special teams. If Donovid Wilson has
Speaker 1: shown that he could cover a little bit better and
Speaker 1: be a little bit more physical and do some things
Speaker 1: to make this football team, he deserves that opportunity if
Speaker 1: you find yourself around the football making plays. Yeah, during Thompson,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need you getting blocked on the
Speaker 1: crack toss. I need you flying in the alley and
Speaker 1: making a play. That's your job. You're a veteran safety.
Speaker 1: Go do that. Cavon Frasier, I can't have you getting
Speaker 1: blocked either. I've got you. I've got to have you
Speaker 1: in coverage. I've got to have you doing these things.
Speaker 1: So if guys aren't doing things, go out here and
Speaker 1: prove you deserve the opportunity. There's guys that took the
Speaker 1: big stage opportunity and deserve some more. Looks out here.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The kid, the McElroy. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: throw McIlroy out. Now. McElroy has no idea who he's
Speaker 1: blocking none. He blew the fourth and one play when
Speaker 1: they got stopped. He's got to come inside and get
Speaker 1: that block. But he got down the field and caught
Speaker 1: the football a little bit. Maybe you get him a
Speaker 1: little bit more opportunity to block. Maybe you throw him
Speaker 1: in there. He's standing next to me and us on
Speaker 1: training camp. Flay, by the way, it's your day to day, uh,
Speaker 1: mixed up yeah, so but on the last last drive, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the guy they were going to Yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: absolutely did. And you have to feel like, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy's got a little bit more than Rico did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Rico after three years. This guy's getting it. And
Speaker 1: he hadn't played much football himself. He's played one year
Speaker 1: of junior college football. Yeah, he's really he was a
Speaker 1: basketball player in a baseball Figure out things for hay six.
Speaker 1: Figure out things for him if he's a practice squad
Speaker 1: guy for you at least, and I'm sure, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but figure figure that out. Can you keep five safeties?
Speaker 1: I think you're going six and four? I think that Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the what's everybody think about? The kind of game
Speaker 1: that that Mike Jackson played? See, that's that's where that
Speaker 1: Mike Jackson's in that mix with Alumba. Alumba really didn't
Speaker 1: show much in that game. To me, I'm thinking about,
Speaker 1: Oh C J. Goodwin got out there, not really much,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna tell you he's a great special teams player.
Speaker 1: How many vbs you keep? You got you? You got
Speaker 1: your top four corners, and then I think it's okay,
Speaker 1: is the fifth corner or the fifth safety. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you kind of go from there, Oh can you
Speaker 1: keep five of each? Uh? Then I think, uh, well
Speaker 1: you used to think and can make it? And Jackson
Speaker 1: can you used to think five each was because you
Speaker 1: had Byron Jones. But Byron Jones is a corner. Now.
Speaker 1: Remember when we first started, was like, oh, they could
Speaker 1: keep they could move Byron Jones back if they have to.
Speaker 1: There are people on periscope asking would you move Cheeto
Speaker 1: to safety? Why? Okay, I'm just saying, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: what did not playing? Okay, we don't know is moving
Speaker 1: to safety? Though? To get both get Brown and maybe
Speaker 1: Lewis on the field, that's that's what they were. They
Speaker 1: were going for the best, the best, the best o
Speaker 1: your best corner, best four, like best five on the older.
Speaker 1: That's that's there. That's the rationale. Maybe that's the rationale.
Speaker 1: I get that. But she knows he's looking so good
Speaker 1: doing what he's doing. I don't want to move him.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have him play a different position
Speaker 1: if he's playing as well as he is at right
Speaker 1: corner right now? Yeah, oh I love I love what
Speaker 1: he's playing corner left but left cor but but The
Speaker 1: thing about it is it's they were trying to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do I get how do I get Brown and
Speaker 1: Lewis on the field potentially. I mean, it's tough because
Speaker 1: I always want to see more Jordan Lewis, But Anthony Brown, Mick,
Speaker 1: I don't think you feel like he's done anything to
Speaker 1: lose his spot as the third now he certainly hasn't.
Speaker 1: And and Jordan Lewis in small doses is very good.
Speaker 1: I worry about Jordan Lewis playing sixty snaps. People accuse
Speaker 1: me of not answering questions here. Oh you crawfishing folks. Folk, No, folks,
Speaker 1: you you you're you're dealing with the wrong man today.
Speaker 1: If you got a question for me, fired at me here,
Speaker 1: why don't they ask it? I don't know the guy.
Speaker 1: I think the guy's crawfishing on me. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: broad us wouldn't answer that question. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the question was. I actually reached out and said, hey,
Speaker 1: what's the question? Ask me the question, sir. If you
Speaker 1: if you have a question, I'll answer. We'll have an answer.
Speaker 1: Show yourself, Show yourself, sir, show yourself. We're out of
Speaker 1: people have to use their names on Periscope. Uh No,
Speaker 1: they make up names like like Mickey's fan, Mickey's biggest
Speaker 1: fan is like at Mickey's biggest fan is a guy.
Speaker 1: You got some fans on Twitter, we'll ask, we'll answer
Speaker 1: that guy's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey. We appreciate everybody
Speaker 1: checking in on Twitter and periscope. Keep keep sending us stuff.
Speaker 1: We'll get to it tomorrow. We'll have a practice to recap.
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