1 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 3 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: training live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Hawksnyard, California. 4 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronks, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, 5 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: and welcome into Talking Cowboys final week of training camp 6 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: out here in Oxnard, California. And boy, do we have 7 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: a show today, A full hour to digest Cowboys Niners 8 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: seventeen nine San Francisco wins the season opener on Saturday 9 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: night from Levi's Stadium. We all made it back safely, 10 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: and we've got a lot of time to discuss everything. 11 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: First team, second team, third team highlights, lowlights. How are 12 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: you guys? Mickey and Brian brought using well, doing well, 13 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Ready to dive into this thing, putty to get too. 14 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: As you said, I like the words safely Yeah yeah yeah. 15 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Long drive back from you. Another feet of strength from 16 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: Brian brought us, getting us through the night, through the fog, 17 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: almost beat the bus back. Yeah, well safely though, he's 18 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: a safe driver. Rob My copolit got me home absolutely. Um, okay, 19 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: we can we can take this anywhere we want to go. 20 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna break it into categories, but I really 21 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: want to just kind of open up to you guys. 22 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: Top stand out from this game the other night, thing 23 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: that really stuck with you from watching four quarters of 24 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Finally some preseason action from this team, good or bad 25 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: or both, either one both? Well, you know what, That's 26 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: what preseason games are, right, a little bit of good, 27 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of bad, and you hope you don't 28 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: get two injured. And the Cowboys got out of the 29 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: game with just it looked like two injuries that we 30 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: know of. Unfortunately for Luke Gifford, after a fine first 31 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: half there, he had a couple of tackles, the interception 32 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: I think he had, might have had a pass broken up, 33 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: He made a nice tackle right right before the pick, 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: right open field. And then and then he suffers the 35 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. When I bumped into him yesterday, he's 36 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: walking around and crutches in a big old walking boot. Yeah, 37 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: it sounded like he said that he tore a ligament 38 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: in his ankle. So that's the high ankle sprain and 39 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: that's probably usually six weeks. So Cowboys will probably have 40 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: a decision to make on what they do with a 41 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: guy when the roster cut gets down, because I think 42 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: they want to keep his right somehow. Say either you 43 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: put him on the fifty three and act like he's 44 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: the fifty third, or you put him on injured reserve 45 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: and you can say, okay, we'll we'll recall him once 46 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: his eight weeks are up and get him back on 47 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: the team so he can practice, and then Cedric Wilson 48 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: will be in the concussion protocol this week. That was 49 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: a vicious hit he took, sure did, but he got 50 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: the past led him right into it though. Ejectionjection for 51 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: that's how that's how vicious it was. And they didn't 52 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: even have to look at it very long. So, uh, 53 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: he'll be and that's unfortunate because of all the young receivers. 54 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: He caught everybody's eye right, absolutely did. I think it's 55 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: a great analogy and manny, and then he showed he 56 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: can return return punts. The big thing on that is 57 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: can you catch the punts right? And I thought both guys, 58 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Reggie Davis and Cedric did a nice job of catching 59 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah. I think that My biggest takeaway was 60 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: I was really pleased with what the first defense was 61 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: able to do. Again San Francisco, We're playing all their stars. 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Mullin's quarterback. You know, he's he's a quality quarterback if 63 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: you watch how he gets rid of the football, moves 64 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: things around. I was really encouraged how the secondary tackled. 65 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, they tried to get the ball out quick 66 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: a couple of different times. You had a Woozier on 67 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: a play. You had Jordan Lewis on a play. You know, 68 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: you had Anthony Brown on a play. Tackling in the 69 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: secondary is so important. Not only can these guys cover, 70 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: but the ability to come up, make plays, get their 71 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: guy on the ground, prevent that big run after catch. 72 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: How many times have we seen a tackle get broken 73 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: and then it turns into an extra twenty or twenty 74 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: five yards. These guys didn't allow that from the first David. 75 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I loved what I saw from the linebackers too in this. 76 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about what Gifford was able to 77 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: do coming in, but also how about Justin Phillips coming 78 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: in second half, second half, and really, you know, he 79 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: had the type of game tackling that I thought that 80 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: that Luke Gifford was gonna have health provided, Yeah, provided, Yeah, 81 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: And so you know, this shows you the little bit 82 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: of the depth that they have at there. And then 83 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: people we had a question this morning, I think in 84 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: the mail bag, and we worried about the depth of 85 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the team. Of what you've seen from the threes and stuff. 86 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: I think there's some key guys that played well, you know, 87 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: some of those backup guys that played well, and then 88 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: the guys who didn't play well, well, they've got three 89 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: more weeks and they could cut themselves. That's you know, 90 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: that's something that the depth on this team will be, 91 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: in my opinion, will be the right depth. If we're 92 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: talking about keeping Luke Gifford as the fifty third guy, 93 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good problem to have, folks, because he's 94 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: worth he was going to, in all likelihood make this team. 95 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna it was gonna come down to likely him 96 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: or Covington or one of those guys. But I do 97 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: like what I saw defensively. I like what I saw 98 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: from the first offense. Now people say, oh, well, what 99 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: happened in the red zone, Brian, what happened with all that? 100 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Oh he's sighing, Oh no, no, no no, no, That's what 101 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. The red zone stuff is you know, no Zeke, 102 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: no Zach Martin, no Amari Cooper. They gave Jason Jason Witten. Okay, 103 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you worried about what you saw 104 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: from Kellen Moore a matter of fact, from the broadcast 105 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: booth watching and then going back and watching the tape. 106 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: If that passes not tipped at the line of scrimmage, 107 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: it's a touchdown to Blake Jarwin. I mean that made 108 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: the right read to get it there. Now, if you 109 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: want to talk about what happened at the end of 110 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: the game, okay, that's that's Mike White trying to do 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: something and you know he got caught all cuple. I 112 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: mean again, they had Devin Smith running free in the 113 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: back of the end zone and he tried to throw 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: the ball underneath Darius Jackson was open on the fourth down. 115 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what he saw with pressure, but they're 116 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: already there are opportunities. There were there were, And so 117 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here trying to blow smoke up everybody's 118 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: rear right now and say, oh, but you do have 119 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: to if you look at the first offense, you do 120 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: have to see that what the players they were minus, 121 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: and again they're not going to do anything really creative 122 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: down there to make you feel like, Okay, this is 123 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you want him to score, but you 124 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: know what it is, what it is. And I'm not 125 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: sitting there. I'm not going to knee jerk after one game, 126 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: one preseason game, because I think from what I've seen 127 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: out here, I've seen this offense move the ball in 128 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: the red zone against a good defense. That's what I've seen. 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not going to sit there and 130 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: say Kellen Moore's is just an idiot and they know 131 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: they don't know tap the brakes on all that. I 132 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: think they'll go one in fifteen and never score a touchdown, 133 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: canceled the season. Yeah this is because this is just 134 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: a continuation of red zone from last year. Yeah, god, 135 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: this is this is This is the pro and con 136 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: of preseason because you get to evaluate the young guys 137 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: on your team. But it also opens up to knee 138 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: jerk reactions off of a nine play drive. And that's it. 139 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: And and I am not You're right, we've seen some 140 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: good things from this offensive camp, but I'm reserving declarations 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: about Kellen Moore's offense till Week one of the regular season. 142 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Because there they gain nothing by showing their hand right now. Yeah, 143 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: to see, That's the thing to me is that I 144 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: I've seen enough and well I shouldn't say enough. I've 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: seen things out here in these practices, the practices that 146 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: we've been able to watch. That leads me to believe 147 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: that Kellen Moore is creative. Kellen Moore has an idea 148 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: of how he wants to get the ball to his personnel, 149 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: and how he wants to use that personnel, and how 150 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: he could fit this offense to fit Dak Prescott right 151 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: and take advantage of this offensive line. You know. That's 152 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: to me, that's the encouraging thing. I mean, you're not 153 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: going to see that in a preseason game right now. 154 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: I think, Look, the defense you mentioned did what they 155 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: should have absolutely against the backup San Francis. All they 156 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: did was start one wide receiver. The rest of their 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: offense was backups to start the game. And so the 158 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: defense did what they should have done. They lent them 159 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: into twenty eight yards in the first quarter. That's what 160 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: you want to see. The offense did what you wanted 161 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: to see. They drove from the twenty eight down to 162 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: the six yard line. So that's what you want to see. Okay, 163 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: they didn't score, but as as as Brian said, the 164 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: ball got batted. Otherwise it's a touchdown watching the film, 165 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: and again it wasn't the red zone, but it was 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: first and ten at the twenty four, and then it 167 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: was first and ten at the twelve. So they did 168 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: move the football and they weren't trying anything fancy. If 169 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: you look at it, first and ten at the twenty four, Pollard, 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: second and seven at the twenty one, he throws a 171 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: little short pass for a couple of yards. Third and one, 172 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: it's Pollard again. Then it's first and ten Pollard again. 173 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: So they were trying to run the ball right and 174 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: get Pollard some work and then get him out of there. 175 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: And one thing Jerry said, and Jerry's been through a 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: lot of these preseasons he said afterward, was in these games, 177 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at players, right, I'm not looking at the 178 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: overall team. And how because there's so much interchange with 179 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: substitutions and everything. I thought Tony he was really complimentary 180 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: if Tony Pollard, he ran hard with the four carries 181 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: that he got. You saw Blake Jarwin take advantage of 182 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: some opportunities he wasn't getting the night off. Uh. And 183 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: what I what was encouraging me was there was there 184 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: was carry over with certain guys from what we've seen 185 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: out here, right, Jarwin getting up the field, right, Cedric 186 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Wilson building on a solid uh camp and making a 187 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: case to grab a roster spot. Guys like that, And 188 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: let's not go to sleep on Tacoo. Good game, you 189 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: know with his rushes and uh that he created a 190 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: hold for there and he had he had the hit 191 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: and he had another hurry. Uh. Yeah, he had a 192 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: he had a nice day, yes, and so um yeah. 193 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: You just can't get carried away. How would you like 194 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: to be San Francisco right now with practice today with 195 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: eighteen penalties for two hundred and sixteen Yeah, and you 196 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: know what it was eighteen that were assessed. Yeah. Right. 197 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: There was a couple of double penalty plays and some 198 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: that got declined. Right, they had over twenty penalties. I 199 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: think the things we focus on the positive. I do 200 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: think there was some negatives with I think there was 201 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: some negatives with these young wide receivers, with the exception 202 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: of Cedric Wilson. I was hopeful that we would see 203 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: John Vay Johnson. We would see Jay link Guidon. We 204 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: would see these guys come up with more plays, more options, 205 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, Johnny Johnson eight opportunities, three catches. You know, 206 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: if it's more like seven and eight or six and eight, 207 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better about his game. That 208 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: was a bad drop he had because they did everything right, 209 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: and he did everything right except catch the football. They 210 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: put the blocker up to take care of the a 211 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: gap blitz, which they're not prepping for, but they know 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, so they get guiding or excuse me, 213 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: they get a chun in position, he makes the block. 214 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: Cooper rush those a beautiful pass, a beautiful I mean, 215 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: and it's timed well. The separations well, you know, but 216 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: you don't get the finish. And I think that's that's 217 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue right there. You wanted 218 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: to see these guys come out and make Now you 219 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: want another negative thing. They did not play the waggle 220 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: the boot very well and the naked and stuff like that. 221 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: Play the game, yeah, I mean, when you've got crossers, 222 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: when you've got to run with crossers or you've got 223 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: to pick up crossers, that's that could be difficult. You know, 224 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: you gotta drop, you gotta turn, you gotta find guys, 225 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: You gotta keep your eyes on the field. You know, 226 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: is that safety play? Is that? You know? I want 227 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: to ask that question today to Jason Garrett. You know, 228 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: is you know? Is you know? Is there a concern 229 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: about current concerns? Are wrong word? But when you're looking 230 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: at it, he'll probably say, well, we weren't game planning 231 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: for that stuff? Is that ephasis? But that's but no. 232 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: But That's what I'm saying though, is is it? Is 233 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: it one of those things where you're thinking, like, Okay, 234 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: maybe this is something we need to work on. Because 235 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: they did the first play of the game. It wasn't 236 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: a backup. It was it was coming all the way 237 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: from a woozy a side, you know. Was he carry 238 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: He was carrying? And I'm thinking, okay, well it's supposed 239 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: to pass or something like that. But if you I 240 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,119 Speaker 1: mean that to me? Was he really the only negative? 241 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: I felt like though the broadcast boot during the game, 242 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: I felt like that that Mitch Hyatt didn't play all 243 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: that well. From the broadcast boot. It wasn't all Mitch Hyatt, 244 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: though there was some Mitch Hyatt there where was a 245 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: lot of Mitch Hyatt. I didn't feel like that watching 246 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: the tape though. It wasn't that's just me about you 247 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: watching the game and watching Sure he was getting beat regularly. Sure, 248 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: but the thing was, you know my evaluation. You also 249 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: had some breakdowns with Sue Philo. You also had some 250 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: breakdowns with Redmond Campos. Campos, they all took a turn. 251 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: Maybe four guys do their job, one guy not. But 252 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: but but some of that's on Mike White too, holding 253 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: the football. You know what I'm saying that some of 254 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: that's on And you talk to people in the organization, 255 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: they will tell you the one issue that they have 256 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: with Mike White is holding the football. That's what they 257 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: tell you. Throw it, throw it. It got to the 258 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: point where Brad Sham was even saying he's back, throw it, 259 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: throw it. I mean, we were talking in the broadcast 260 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: and that's going to be the problem. And we saw 261 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: with a sense of how he played a little bit 262 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: of a sense of urgency in that game. Late in 263 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: the game. Get rid of the ball, make throws go faster, 264 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: play quicker play with pace. Guys are open, hit them. 265 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: Don't wait for things to happen, You make things. Let 266 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: it rip as John Kitten would rip. We just spent 267 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: three minutes talking about guys that aren't going to be 268 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: on this team. So Mike White, after that performance, okay, 269 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: let's let's let's go there before you know, let's finish 270 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: out the backup quarterback. But again, I appreciate you saying this, 271 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: but again it's it's his I mean, it's his first 272 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: game since exactly since. I thought, both of them on 273 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: Rush two, first game since last preseason, and you know, 274 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: and you can see it still hasn't played in a 275 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: real game since twenty seventeen. I thought, on the flip side, 276 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: the second team offensive line gave Cooper Rush a really 277 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: good opportunity. Were three guys, three guys, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 278 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: is to a certain extent, I thought, and I wrote this, 279 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Rush had better fortune than Mike White did. 280 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: We always talk about in these preseason games union some 281 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: protection to fully evaluate these. But San Francisco also had 282 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: defensive linemen that were signed that day pass rushing, and 283 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: they still had some mistress. Now, I think what happened 284 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: is that Joe Looney I think was pretty consistent throughout. 285 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: But Redman Sue Philo, Hyatt Campos. Those guys broke down. 286 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: They're playing seventy something plays. They're not used to playing 287 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: at any plays in the first game to the injuries 288 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: they've had out here, no question sure. So just recapping 289 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: the stats here, Cooper Rush played I believe one drive 290 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: into the third quarter. Right took over after the first 291 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: series that Dak played sixteen to twenty six, one hundred 292 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: and forty two yards, seventy six point one rating, Mike 293 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: White nine of twenty eighty seven yards, No touchdowns for 294 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: either of these guys. Pocket awareness was poor for sacked 295 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: three times, including a lost fumble. Yeah, it's got sacked 296 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: once and I think each of his first three drives 297 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: sack on a on a play. Now again, Weber missed 298 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: a block that very well could have been a touchdown. 299 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: He's loading up to throw the ball on the outside 300 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: and they double moved the forty nine ers and they 301 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: get a holding on the other side of the field, 302 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: which you know negated the sack in the fumble. But yeah, 303 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, if you're if I'm interested to see if Mickey, 304 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: if if you feel like that that that game, even 305 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: though they haven't played, even though they haven't played a 306 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: whole year. Is that game so damaging for Mike White 307 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden now it's like we can 308 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: only keep too cool? Well, it might be his best 309 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: opportunity because you got a figure going forward. Dak's gonna 310 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: get more in the second game. Rush you'll probably get 311 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: the next and he's gonna get the scraps at the 312 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: end the third game he may not get anything, and 313 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: then the fourth game he gets to play again. So look, 314 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: the biggest concern to me out of all that stuff. 315 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: And there was guys that you wanted to see, but 316 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to see John Veya uh dropping balls, 317 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: And he's done it now in the Blue White screm 318 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: and in this you will still still love him. You 319 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: just would still love him. Your backup offensive line would 320 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: have would have played better, but the kicker missed the 321 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: thirty five yard field goal, and that doesn't have to 322 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: do with anything about anybody. L let's let's that's a 323 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: great segue. Why don't we break early and come back 324 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: with Brett Maher Because I feel like backup quarterback and 325 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: the kicker might have been the two biggest topics going 326 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: into this camp other than Zeke and contracts and all 327 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: that stuff, and that's what we're talking about most coming 328 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: out of this game. So let's talk about Brett Maher 329 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: in the kicking situation. How we assess that? Next? On 330 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys or has been helping Cowboys fans see better 331 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy two so they don't miss a moment 332 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: on the field. 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And don't mister chance see the Cowboys 378 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: live at at and T State this season. You won't 379 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: want to miss these exciting matchups when the Giants, Eagles, Packers, 380 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: Rams and more come to Arlington. Get your tickets now 381 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: at Dallas Cowboys dot com. All right, welcome back to 382 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: the show. We're talking preseason number one preseason practice. By 383 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: the way, they're back at it today this afternoon. Four 384 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: practices left in Oxnard. Is that correct about three and 385 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: a half. Three and a half, you'll think Thursday's probably 386 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: I'll walk through, don't you think before we leave, before 387 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: they break camp? Maybe not? Maybe not practice practice days 388 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: walk through. Yeah, they'll practice. Yeah, I was getting them 389 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: off their feet all right, sooner, right? Is it one 390 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: of those morning yeah? Yeah, so yeah, that's what happened. 391 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: That's good those practices. I like the morning practices I 392 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: do because it kind of gives us to get your 393 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to get some stuff done and kind of figure 394 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: some things out. Yeah, we got to kind of pack 395 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: some things up here, and they don't able to wait 396 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: till the end of the day to analyze what happened. 397 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: You no question. Done by twelve thirty, absolutely, and then 398 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: it's on the all right Aloha music or something not 399 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: yet not yet Hawaii five Oh definitely when we get there. Um, 400 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: all right, we've talked back up starters, backup quarterback. Let's 401 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: let's go to kicker right now. Brett Maher. We've talked 402 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: about him at camp. He's made some kicks, he's missed 403 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: some you know, a couple of short kicks lately in camp. 404 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Saturday night he was three of four on field goals. 405 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: He was good from twenty five forty thirty one. But 406 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: as Mickey said before the break, it's that thirty five 407 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: yard miss that everybody's harping on. Yeah. See. And you 408 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: can say, okay, well you made three out of four. Okay, 409 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: well that's seventy five percent. I want my kicker in 410 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: the high eighties. Boo. But when you miss from thirty five, 411 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: if he had missed from forty eight, kind of ominous music. 412 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: Then I watched, Okay, he made, he made three out 413 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: of four, and his miss was from forty eight. I 414 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: can excuse that, but you can't keep missing the short one, 415 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: you know. And the problem is it's it's it's that's 416 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: kind of where he left off last year two. At 417 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: the end he was six of ten I think down 418 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: the stretch on field goal. Yeah. So, I mean, it 419 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: just causes you to raise your eyebrows. And I don't 420 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: know what you can do about it. But at some point, 421 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: and there's nothing, everybody keeps bringing up Matt Bryant, who's 422 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: forty four years old. Yeah, the Vikings traded for the 423 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: guy evidently from the Ravens. So were they worried about 424 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: Dan Bailey? They were worried about Dan Bailey. They went 425 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: proactive and just when Head gave up a fifth round 426 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: pick for the rights for the kicker at Baltimore. So 427 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: that tells you what's out there available right now, sou. 428 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: But at some point, don't you think you just kind 429 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: of bring some guys in and work them out to 430 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: just see I think when we get back to I 431 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: think when we get back to the Star, right, and 432 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: they'll have that opportunity where they'll have the indoor facility, 433 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: they'll have us away. I don't think they want to 434 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: parade a bunch of kickers through here while we're while 435 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: it's diving on the field, which I'll do nothing for 436 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: the guys does not either. Right. The problem is, though, 437 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: if we're worried about the guy's confidence, how about the 438 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: confidence in you if we're the coaching staff. You know 439 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, Mickey, I think you're dead on right 440 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: about this. If it's a forty seven yard field goal 441 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: to fifty one yard field goal to fifty three yard 442 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: field goal, then you missed those. I get it. But 443 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: he's been in two situations out here, folks, where they've 444 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: driven the ball in a two minute drill, and he's 445 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: missed both those kicks Blue White scrimmage, and then did 446 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: it the other day quote unquote game winning Yeah, game 447 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: winning situations where you look at that if they call 448 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: it play it out and they're playing it out to 449 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: try and win the game, and Dak and everybody make 450 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: it plays or spike and balls. They're getting it up. 451 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: They have four seconds left, they line it up and 452 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: again it's not a fifty two yard field goal, it's 453 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: a thirty five yard field goal, and then it's no good. 454 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Does you know, does your confidence? Does the team have 455 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: confidence in you? And you know they can keep saying that, Yeah, 456 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, we're charting, we're doing this. You're on the 457 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: other field watching seven on seven. Okay, I get it directed, Yeah, 458 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I trust you. But also, this league is so tough too. 459 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: If he comes down to losing games. But if you're 460 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: losing games because you're missing thirty five yard fuel goals, 461 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: that makes it even worse. You know that that that 462 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: right there is the big gut punch, And so they 463 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: have to be if you're talking about confidence, you know, 464 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: us having confidence or lack of How about the coaching staff, 465 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: how about his teammates? How about those folks that's where 466 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: that's where this is all. Because when you drive the 467 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: ball to the seventeen yard line, yeah, you gotta score. 468 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: You gotta score. If it's three points, it's three points. Yeah, 469 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: I got a score now. He made the one right 470 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: before half. Beautiful drive to get to get in fuel 471 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: goal range. Job by Cooper Rush. Yes, Cooper Rush, moving 472 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: the team every they try that one extra play to 473 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: throw to Jarwin on the sidelines. It's too high to 474 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: get him a little closer. But you know what, they 475 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: did it right, They left himself And what happened when 476 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: the ball went through the uprights. It was zero zero 477 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: zero on the clock, right perfect. Couldn't do it any better. 478 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: It was like what we see out Yeah, when they 479 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: practice situations, right, he cannot he cannot miss those field goals. 480 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: But I will, I will say those field goals that 481 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: are fifty plus, Okay, I get it. But he seems 482 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: to be really good at those. He seems to be 483 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: outstanding it though he tied Bailey last year I think 484 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: for the most over fifty buy a kicker in a 485 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: season from Cowboys history, and that's six out of seven 486 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: and it's but it's those money kicks. Yeah, those those 487 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: kicks keep them going like Okay, you know it's it's 488 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: the ball on the right hash. Yeah, and it's the 489 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: same where he started missing last year on the right hash. 490 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: Here's what Jerry said about it on Saturday night. And 491 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem concerned at the moment. He said quote, 492 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was good. It was the only way 493 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: we scored tonight. You'd like for him to hit him all, 494 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: but I'm glad he got the ones he got. We've 495 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: got more camp days and continue to evaluate him. That's 496 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: similar to what Jason Garrett said. Continue to evaluate in 497 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: his case, we will evaluate last year and this year. 498 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Just to sum it up, we don't have any different 499 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: opinion about him after the game than we had before 500 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 1: the game. I wonder how much of it because we've 501 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: talked about it. What's out there that that's a better option. 502 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of talent, He's got a very 503 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: strong legs. Yeah, and keep building his confidence up and 504 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: see if the consistency is there, and just keep giving 505 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: him chance. Don't give Redfern chances. This is your kicker. 506 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: Keep getting him, giving him chances in these preseason games 507 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: and see if this corrects itself. Well, that's what's going 508 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: to happen. They'll let Redford punt. They gotta let him kick, 509 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: and as Jason said, keep giving him more opportunities. What's 510 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: out there? We'll tell you what's out there. If there 511 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: was something out there in Minnesota, wouldn't have traded a 512 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: draft and somebody else's So that kind of gives you 513 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: an idea of what's out there. And I think if 514 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: you talk to folks here or they'll tell you there's 515 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: not much out there. And and I don't Yeah, you know, 516 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: I think I said this the other day, but I'm 517 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: not sure what's happened with kickers coming out of college. Yeah, 518 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: but you know, maybe because they score touchdowns so much, 519 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: the kicker only hand to kick extra points and they're 520 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: kicking short extra points. So yeah, it's just it's just something. 521 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: When you talk about the stuff that really went wrong, 522 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: most of the stuff went wrong would backups except for him. 523 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: He's your guy, he's your kicker. All the other stuff 524 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: is peripheral stuff. The offensive linemen that aren't going to 525 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: make this team. Uh, you know, maybe a wide receiver too, 526 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: not going to make this team. But for most part, 527 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, the the backup defense actually did cease it job, Yes, 528 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: you know when they turned the ball over that time, 529 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: they they hung in there for a field goal. Yeah, 530 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: that's that's all you can ask for. So uh young. 531 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't mention Joe Jackson first play in 532 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, be it preseason or not. Jalen Jelkes gets 533 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: a sack right right, and he almost had another one. 534 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: Uh So there was some good stuff up front, and 535 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: they moved Joe Jackson. He had been playing on the 536 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: left side. Yeah, right, said the radio. I was surprised 537 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: because it's usually the opposite. Usually Jokes rushes from the 538 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: right and then and Jackson plays from the left. But 539 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: you're right, Mickey, gets a good eye because they've they've 540 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: flipped it there and maybe that's something they'll flip back. 541 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: We'll see it. But you know, I'm waiting to see 542 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson plays some at defensive tackle too. That's what 543 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: they've kind of talked about. There was a little bit 544 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: of a plan. Hey on the periscope, Mickey, any update 545 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: you've heard on Noah Brown at all, anything about him 546 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: getting in the mix. He seems to me like he's 547 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: going to make this team by default. Really if he 548 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: doesn't practice out here well, right, I mean maybe when 549 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: they get back to the Star after the Hawaii trip, right, 550 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: because I see him doing a little bit more each time, 551 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: and you know, that might be an indication that he's 552 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: an automatic, right, Like they say, we're going to keep them, 553 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: so we want to make sure he's healthy for the 554 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: start of the season. I think they've view his role 555 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: that he's had here is more important than maybe you 556 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: might think. You know, I mean, I know he's not 557 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: been he hasn't been a big factor in the receiving game, 558 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: but what he does on special teams and they obviously 559 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: must like his potential at receiver, yeah, big target. Um. 560 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: I know I'm talking to the wrong guy here, but 561 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think they do value him well 562 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: and I expect him to make the team. Basically, do 563 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: these young guys that we've been talking about between Johnson, Guiton, uh, 564 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: Reggie Davis, they gotta they gotta start producing in the games, 565 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: absolutely right, Absolutely something that one thing to do it 566 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: out here in practice. Absolutely gotta do what Cedric Wilson did. 567 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely go out there and said, oh there's Cedric Wilson. 568 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: You know what they thought a lot of him last year. Uh, 569 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: and they didn't wave him injured. They kept him on 570 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: IR the whole season after he had the shoulder surgery. Rob, 571 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: this question for you there, what defensive end? And Mackey 572 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: you could jump in. I'll jump in as well. What 573 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: defensive end? Do you like the most of those young guys? 574 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Of the young guys, Um, there's so many of them, 575 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: give me a roster. I've always wow your jokes as 576 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, when we and I'm not sure 577 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: when they're going to post at our top ten right rookies, right, 578 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: Jelkes was pretty high numb. Yeah, yeah, Um, I don't 579 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: you count Kerry Hyder as a young veteran guy because 580 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: give him half credit on Luke Giffords Dinner A great hit. Yeah, absolutely, 581 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: I would go with Jolkes. He's got an unusual build, 582 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's Jason Taylor looking That's what I said. Yeah, 583 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to make a direct comparison there, 584 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: but Hall of Famer. Yeah, exactly, build, build looks, and 585 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: he's got in his game. He's got deceptive strength for 586 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: being about two hundred and fifty. He's he's a guy 587 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: that may continue to progress just based off of his 588 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: puer ability. We'll see. Yeah, I you know what if 589 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: you count, you know, if you count, Doward's armstrong. But 590 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean, now you're okay. See, I didn't even think 591 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: about him because he's to me, he's been on the 592 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: team for a year, he's getting first team reps. To me, 593 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: he's kind of established. Yeah, okay, Well if he's okay, 594 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: if you're going for the non established guys getting distracted 595 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: that I would. I would say that jokes makes a 596 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot of sense, and I think 597 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: that Joe Jackson will find a way to continue to develop. 598 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: There's just too much power in that body. You know, 599 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the quickness of jokes, but he's got power. 600 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: He's got that that that when he hits you. We 601 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: saw it out here Blue White. He made some tackles 602 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: the other day. I mean, when he hits you, you stop. 603 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: He plays with that power. I think there's something to that. 604 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: So I would if you guys would go with jokes, 605 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: I'll take the other end and say, just because physically 606 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: I like what Joe Jackson looks like, two different types 607 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: of players, and right because he's two eighty five And 608 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: you said playing inside a little bit. Maybe you know, 609 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: that might get him on the team. No, no update 610 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: on a governance update is just he's maybe not until 611 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: we get we get back exactly exactly. And that's another 612 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: one that could be, you know, on ir recall, depending 613 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: on what happens with veteran guys that you want to 614 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: keep if they get injured. One more thing on the 615 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: kicker situation. I think the microscope is there for a 616 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: couple of reasons. I mean, do you think do you 617 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: think in any part of this we're a little spoiled 618 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: by what Dan Bailey hit did here? Fye, I'm sorry, 619 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: didn't mean to go away from Dan Bailey talker or 620 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: what we're talking about there. Yeah, no, absolutely, but again, 621 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: you'd like your kicker to make in the if you can. 622 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: I think there was only seven guys last year that 623 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: were in ninety percent range of conversions. You'd like at 624 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: least high eighties, right right, And he was working eighty 625 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: point six. This guy was ranking twenty fourth in the league. 626 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: It was like close to eighty. Yeah. Yeah, And I 627 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: think that when you're a team with this high expectations, 628 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: the short ones season good shape. Yeah, you played six 629 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: games last year decided by three points or less. Right, 630 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: that decides your season. Yeah, I mean that. That's that's 631 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: why we're talking. That's why people were talking about it. 632 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: But I think they're still trying to, you know, keep 633 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: his confidence high and hope this corrects itself. Just go 634 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: score touchdowns. Well that too. Did you see anything with 635 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: with the with the veteran offic to line. Did you 636 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: keep an eye on Travis Frederick in this game any 637 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: at all? I thought he was okay, yeaddy too. I'm 638 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: with you on this. I just thought I was trying 639 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: to get your opinion on this before I gave my 640 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: first first first time back since twenty seventeen playing a game. Right. 641 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't like you said, oh gosh, yeah, there's a liability. 642 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: He's a mile away. Yeah, he was fine. I didn't 643 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: see anything, and they didn't seem to have any confusion. No, no, ye, 644 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: him and Connor Williams, and then you know, they did 645 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: a nice job of picking things up with at Sue 646 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: Filo and those guys. I think Sue Field got tired 647 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: this conditioning. I don't think it's great, but but to 648 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: watch to watch TVs, there was one time he was 649 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: on the ground and he was kind of like he 650 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: got embarrassed by it because he slid over to help, 651 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they got he got 652 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: he's trying to go up to get the run through, 653 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: and he kind of got all balanced and you could 654 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: tell he was sitting on the ground like, Okay, why 655 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 1: am I on the ground? You know you can't kind 656 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: of get that. Look, yeah, I'm not supposed to be 657 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: on the ground here right now because he's always playing 658 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: on his feet. But I think for the most part, though, 659 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: the communication with the line when you watch Dak Prescott 660 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: and him have to move. Hell, they had the front 661 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: of a pocket so clean. One time the past that 662 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: went inside on the curl to Michael Gallup was they 663 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: were trying to throw the slant to Tavon Austin and 664 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: he had enough time to say uh and then kind 665 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: of hop over a couple of steps. Boom. That's the 666 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: front of the pocket right there. Solid. When you cannot 667 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: have to throw a slant to the right and come 668 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: all the way back to a curl on the left 669 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: and have the quarterback only moved two steps, that's a 670 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: good job by the guys up front, and that's part 671 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: of Travis Frederick and an You know, when we talk 672 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: about this offense and what they did on their first possession, 673 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: you know it wasn't like they were just missing guys, right, 674 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: They're missing pro bowlers. Yeah right, Amari Cooper. We forget 675 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: Zack Martin, Yeah, because we haven't seen him practice for 676 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: a while. And and by the way, and I'm not 677 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: sure where a Witton will be, but he was a 678 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: Pro bowler. So that's three Pro bowlers that that that 679 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: were out of your lineup. And it wasn't like just guys. 680 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: That's the red zone argument right there too. That's that's 681 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: that's if you want to ey pieces the reds if 682 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: you want to tell me, if you want to tell me, 683 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: well tell them Moore red zone problems. I'll remind you 684 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: of who all wasn't involved in. And I've been the 685 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: guy all along. It says the red zone will improve 686 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: because of Jason Witten, not only because it was blocking, 687 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: but his ability to get up the field in that 688 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: eighteen yard range and make plays down the field and 689 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: just you know, just the knack he has for finding 690 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: open space in tight situations. Um, yeah, I don't I 691 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: don't know where I was going. Oh, I interrupted with 692 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: the pro bowlers out, I mean, and look out, look 693 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: at the defense. Yeah. No DeMarcus Lawrence, no Sean Lee. Yeah, 694 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: I'd sell you the Cyrone Crawford, No Tyrone Crawford, No MALIEK. Collins. 695 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: One thing on offense that did stand out for me, 696 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: and that's Michael Gallup carrying over what we're seeing out here. 697 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: One drive I know, nine plays, but he accounted for 698 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: thirty nine yards pass Interferris Pilly. He drew tw twenty 699 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: six years And that's that's him separating forcing over see. 700 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that looks like he's gonna 701 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: take a step. Yeah, he is going to take his mean, 702 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's visible out here. You could you 703 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: could tell he's put on a little bit more weight, 704 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: but it hasn't affected his speed or quickness, and it's 705 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: allowed him to be to fight better down the field. 706 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: Where he would have probably got pushed off the field, 707 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: he's not getting pushed him or See, that's the problem 708 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: that John Bay Johnson had. You can coach to silence 709 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: all a sudden, you're a lighter guy, they start leaning 710 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: on your pushing on you getting off the field. They 711 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: don't bully. They don't bully Gallop like they did before 712 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: Gallop got bullied a little bit by But you see 713 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: Gallop fight against a Woozier out here, It's like it's 714 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: hand to hand combat off the line and then in 715 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: a route and then all of a sudden it's slinging 716 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: an elbow into and you see, you know, Woozier kind 717 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: of get knocked back and he rallies. But then there's 718 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: the ball. See if you know, that's the thing about it, 719 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: when you make those contested catches, even when you don't 720 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: have your best. That's what we're seeing from Michael Gallop 721 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: at here. I am seeing a much more physical player. 722 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: And you know, you got a physical player in Randall Cobb. 723 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: He is a physical player. You throw him the football, 724 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: he is going to run up the field. You know, 725 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, you throw him the ball, he is going 726 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: to run up the field. That's what the that's what 727 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: they got with these receivers, you know, and you get 728 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin up the field. We saw what Blake jarmin. 729 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: They run the they run the inside fake and what 730 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: Jarwin's playing in line y to the left and comes 731 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: all the way across boom ball over the top. Okay, yeah, 732 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: try and cover that. And he had another one yeah, 733 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: oh he had right down the wall, yeah, right down, 734 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: yeah right. Oh it's Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush. 735 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean they were in a two there, a two 736 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: deep look and he hits it perfect and it's just 737 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Cooper through it just a little far. 738 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: I mean you could see him reach and the ball 739 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: just off the edge of his But that's what you got. 740 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,479 Speaker 1: You got a guy, you know, Dak Prescott, Chony Billy 741 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: little touchdown the field, boom drop it on him. That's 742 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: a that's a thirty yard game right there. So when 743 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: you saw it, go with to wit and do that. 744 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: So when you're looking for breakout players, don't go to 745 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: sleep on those two guys. Nope. Jarwin and I know 746 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,439 Speaker 1: Gallup was a starter last year and he got better 747 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: that last third of the season. But watch out for 748 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, for if you want to breakout guy, 749 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: because now they can't slough off the other receivers and 750 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: say we're taking Amrii Cooper away. It's, like Sanjay said 751 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: last week, just an overall understanding of what defenses are 752 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: trying to do to you. I mean that experience he 753 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: got last year is just invaluable. Yeah. And then you 754 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: take over his physical abilities with it, okay, a chance. Yeah. 755 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: And and folks are losing their mind on periscope right now, 756 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: which they always do. What the Cowboy you can't. It 757 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who they're playing. Okay, there's like, oh, they're 758 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: playing their backups and all that. The Cowboys didn't play 759 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: starters too, okay. And and if you want to sit 760 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: there that you can't help who you're playing, you go 761 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: out there and perform. You go out there and make plays. 762 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: San Francisco is trying to figure out their lineup. They're 763 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's gonna make their team. You know, 764 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: don't act like that. It's not I hate when people 765 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: say this. You play who you play, you know, that's 766 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: what you do. They the first team out. I don't 767 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: care who they're moving the ball on. They're moving the 768 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: ball that that I don't care. That's you know, I 769 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: don't That doesn't bother meosed to that they did what 770 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: they're supposed to do other than a tip ball. The 771 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: first offense is going to score touchdown. So don't don't 772 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: sit there and tell me Oh they're playing their back 773 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about I just want 774 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: to see them do things. I don't want to see 775 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: them missfield goals. I don't want to see them drop passes. 776 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't care who they're playing. It gets worry about yourself. 777 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: That's what you need to worry about these games. They 778 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: not read my column. This was disappointing me. Now Mickey's 779 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: column read outside gave them a good lecture on that. Yeah, 780 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: well they don't care, and and it bothers me. It 781 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: bothers me because if they're doing what they're supposed to do. 782 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: If they're doing what they're supposed to do, that's all 783 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: you should care about. In the preseason. That's what we're 784 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: focusing on. We're not focusing on. San Francisco had their 785 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: backup guys out there. Hell, Dallas had their backup guy. 786 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: They had a backup right guard. That might not make 787 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: this team playing out there. San Francisco might be all 788 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: back up. It's not fun to be rational, though, Brian. 789 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: It's not fun. I just I just I just if 790 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: you want to evaluate this team, evaluate the team, if 791 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: they're doing what they're supposed to be do, evaluate that. 792 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: If they're not supposed to. If they're not doing things 793 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: that you're evaluate, then that's what you'd be critical. I 794 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: think that's what we're trying to do here. But you 795 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: can't help who you're gonna play. You can't help it that. 796 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said, you know what, I hate the preseason. 797 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to play twenty eight of my guys. Yeah, 798 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: and I don't care him. I'm trying to evaluate my 799 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: team and him doing that. Did their team get better? Yeah? 800 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: So you got away with your starters being out there. Yeah, 801 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: they got some experience, knock some rust off, and they 802 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. For the most part, everybody was healthy. 803 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: Now now people are trying to crawfish on me. You're 804 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: not crawfishing on me, all right, Yes, no, you're you're saying, 805 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: oh no, you're I'm missing the point. No, BS, I 806 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: am not missing the points. Watch yourself. I'd boil him 807 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: quite well. I think you know that. 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We're gonna have to make 877 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: a list of that as we go. A lot. I 878 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: like that from Jack two word terms right again? Do 879 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: we need to give the address Jack Black? You know 880 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: where we live? Fine, send Mickey a big box. Mickey 881 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: will be nice and give us our Jack Black. They 882 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: also have another thing, Go and find your regiment. Want 883 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: to know what you need to replenish? Discover exactly what 884 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: your skin needs by the regiment finder. How about that? 885 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: So they'll give you a Q and a tasty guy 886 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: like me? Yeah, pasty man, pasty man, dry skin, try skin, pastymon, 887 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: wrankling skin, old man, bake fourheads say, whoa what are 888 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 1: you doing? Mickey got a big four here? Yeah, yeah, 889 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: it gets a little bigger. We all got issues. Jack 890 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: Black helps, Hey, don't crawfish. Brian brought us by the way, 891 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: you whoever did that on periscope, She's got the stare 892 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: into the camera. Guys, he knows you know, and I 893 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: trust trust me. I love I love the fact that 894 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: we get to interact with the fans. I appreciate you fans, 895 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: I really, I really do. And I and but I 896 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: will say this, though you have no control over who 897 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: you play, you don't. So was the issue with the 898 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: defense like they wanted style points? Then they thought Alabama 899 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: was playing uh, you know, Troy, and they you know, 900 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: it needed to win by one hundred and six. And 901 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: that's the thing about it is, I I've always done 902 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: this my all my professional life. You evaluate the practice, 903 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: you evaluate now that we always talk about this if 904 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill finds a way to win against Connor Williams 905 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: or Zack Martin and it's one every four, you know. 906 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: But but we also say, well, hey, look Taco won 907 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: one time against Tyrn Smith. Wait, Taco's winning against you know, 908 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: can't flaming a little bit. That's good though, as long 909 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: as he's winning. That's the thing that that it doesn't 910 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: matter who it is, just as long as you find it. 911 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: And if you if you're playing poorly, well you'll see that. 912 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's against an all pro or 913 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: just a down the line guy. Just that's how you 914 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: should evaluate preseason. It's you have no control over who 915 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: well Kyle Shanahan plays in these games, and it's none 916 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: It's the full body of work. Because I keep talking 917 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: about consistency. What we're seeing out here is the defense 918 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: give a pretty good offense with a lot of talent. 919 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: Some trouble out here. Yeah, and it carried over with 920 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: these The most impressive thing I saw, my opinion, in 921 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: the first two weeks of practice is the way the 922 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 1: secondary has been flying around out here. Yeah. And that's 923 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: what we saw, guys making open field tackles, Cheeto making 924 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: a great play on the ball, and without by Jones, 925 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: without Byron Jones, that's it's encouraging. You know. It's funny. 926 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: Ask me, what does crawfishing mean. Crawfish in Louisiana swim backwards. 927 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: They swim backwards. They don't swim forwards. They swim backwards. 928 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: So if you're crawfishing, that means you're swimming backwards. You're 929 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: in it, you're in the middle. You're trying to get 930 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: into the boiling pot. Oh I'm getting out the boiling pot. 931 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: So that's what crawfishing means if the folks had asked me, 932 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: don't be crawfishing, don't crawfish on me now. And I 933 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 1: appreciate folks that come with an opinion, I really do, 934 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: but I think you have to evaluate what it is. 935 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,959 Speaker 1: You know, we need your entirely too much, we really do, 936 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: you know I. And I appreciate Mickey saying what he 937 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: did about Mike White. You're talking to the Mike White champion. 938 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: You're talking to the guy that threw it up on 939 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: the table and said draft Mike White. Okay, that's wrong 940 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: right now. It looks bad. It does, but I'm not 941 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: going to crawfish away from it, you know, I mean 942 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: to me, Mike White is a better player. What I 943 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,439 Speaker 1: saw in the two minute drill is more what Mike 944 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 1: White is. That's what I saw Mike White. Mike White 945 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: needs to do that every time he takes the snap, 946 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: not hold the ball and take sacks and show poor 947 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: pocket awareness. That's not Mike White. Mike White is a 948 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: much better player, but is he playing like that right now? 949 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: Mike White is going to play poorly enough to make 950 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: them keep two quarterbacks, and he probably won't be the 951 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: second quarterback if he continues on this path. But he 952 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: is a better player than this, he really is. There's 953 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: a lot of better players out there that should be 954 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 1: playing better. Yeah, John Vay Johnson showed me the other 955 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: day he's a better player out here. And he got 956 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: in the game and all of a sudden, it's like 957 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: he got nervous. He said he gets the rams. He 958 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: said he had to get over some some jitters. That's 959 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: normal for a rookie. And Mickey said, he's had some drops. 960 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: I still love his potential all but he's still he's 961 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: still got to show it, you know, when these lights 962 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: come on his next game to get a spot on 963 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: the fifth to get at the other thing you need 964 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: to remember is the guys that didn't play for the Cowboys. 965 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: There were seven Pro bowlers, either recent or some point 966 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: in their career. They were Pro Bowlers when San Francisco 967 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: didn't play their starters. How many Pro bowlers did they 968 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: have that sat out? And my guess is maybe one two. 969 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: I'm not versed on their history in Pro Bowls, but 970 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not equitable. So when you missed the 971 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: likes of Martin Witton, Cooper, Byron Jones, DeMarcus Lawrence, Robert Quinn, 972 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: and Lee. You're you're missing top flight players out there, 973 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: so don't make hasty evaluations of backups and guys that 974 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: aren't going to make this team, all right? Question from 975 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: Jake Off of Twitter. Donovan Wilson got an interception, Yes, 976 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: my aggie, Yes, will he jump up the depth chart? 977 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: You know what? I think that we're starting. He had 978 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: blue white scrimmage, got a ten plays in that couple 979 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: of tackles, looked physical. Nice break on the ball that 980 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: they convert. You know, it's like they go from a 981 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: too deep look to a single high look and he 982 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: comes down, reads the quarterback makes the interception. He should 983 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: absolutely get some more work, you know what. Let him 984 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: get some work on ahead of Thompson. You know, let 985 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: him get some work ahead of Frasier. You know what, 986 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: Frasier and Thompson have had some good days. But you 987 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: know this isn't just show up and punched the card 988 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: and oh, I've play special teams. If Donovid Wilson has 989 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: shown that he could cover a little bit better and 990 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 1: be a little bit more physical and do some things 991 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: to make this football team, he deserves that opportunity if 992 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: you find yourself around the football making plays. Yeah, during Thompson, 993 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need you getting blocked on the 994 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: crack toss. I need you flying in the alley and 995 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: making a play. That's your job. You're a veteran safety. 996 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: Go do that. Cavon Frasier, I can't have you getting 997 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: blocked either. I've got you. I've got to have you 998 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: in coverage. I've got to have you doing these things. 999 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: So if guys aren't doing things, go out here and 1000 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: prove you deserve the opportunity. There's guys that took the 1001 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: big stage opportunity and deserve some more. Looks out here. 1002 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The kid, the McElroy. Yeah, I'll 1003 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: throw McIlroy out. Now. McElroy has no idea who he's 1004 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 1: blocking none. He blew the fourth and one play when 1005 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: they got stopped. He's got to come inside and get 1006 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: that block. But he got down the field and caught 1007 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: the football a little bit. Maybe you get him a 1008 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: little bit more opportunity to block. Maybe you throw him 1009 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: in there. He's standing next to me and us on 1010 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: training camp. Flay, by the way, it's your day to day, uh, 1011 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: mixed up yeah, so but on the last last drive, Yeah, 1012 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: he was the guy they were going to Yeah, absolutely 1013 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: absolutely did. And you have to feel like, oh, this 1014 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 1: guy's got a little bit more than Rico did. Yeah, 1015 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: and Rico after three years. This guy's getting it. And 1016 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: he hadn't played much football himself. He's played one year 1017 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: of junior college football. Yeah, he's really he was a 1018 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: basketball player in a baseball Figure out things for hay six. 1019 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: Figure out things for him if he's a practice squad 1020 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: guy for you at least, and I'm sure, I'm sure, 1021 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: but figure figure that out. Can you keep five safeties? 1022 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: I think you're going six and four? I think that Now, Okay, 1023 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: what's the what's everybody think about? The kind of game 1024 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: that that Mike Jackson played? See, that's that's where that 1025 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: Mike Jackson's in that mix with Alumba. Alumba really didn't 1026 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: show much in that game. To me, I'm thinking about, 1027 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: Oh C J. Goodwin got out there, not really much, 1028 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: but they're gonna tell you he's a great special teams player. 1029 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: How many vbs you keep? You got you? You got 1030 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: your top four corners, and then I think it's okay, 1031 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: is the fifth corner or the fifth safety. Yeah, and 1032 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: then you kind of go from there, Oh can you 1033 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 1: keep five of each? Uh? Then I think, uh, well 1034 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: you used to think and can make it? And Jackson 1035 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: can you used to think five each was because you 1036 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: had Byron Jones. But Byron Jones is a corner. Now. 1037 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: Remember when we first started, was like, oh, they could 1038 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: keep they could move Byron Jones back if they have to. 1039 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: There are people on periscope asking would you move Cheeto 1040 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: to safety? Why? Okay, I'm just saying, I'm just saying 1041 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: what did not playing? Okay, we don't know is moving 1042 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,439 Speaker 1: to safety? Though? To get both get Brown and maybe 1043 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: Lewis on the field, that's that's what they were. They 1044 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: were going for the best, the best, the best o 1045 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: your best corner, best four, like best five on the older. 1046 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: That's that's there. That's the rationale. Maybe that's the rationale. 1047 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 1: I get that. But she knows he's looking so good 1048 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing. I don't want to move him. 1049 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to have him play a different position 1050 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: if he's playing as well as he is at right 1051 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: corner right now? Yeah, oh I love I love what 1052 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: he's playing corner left but left cor but but The 1053 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: thing about it is it's they were trying to think, Okay, 1054 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: how do I get how do I get Brown and 1055 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: Lewis on the field potentially. I mean, it's tough because 1056 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: I always want to see more Jordan Lewis, But Anthony Brown, Mick, 1057 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you feel like he's done anything to 1058 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: lose his spot as the third now he certainly hasn't. 1059 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: And and Jordan Lewis in small doses is very good. 1060 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: I worry about Jordan Lewis playing sixty snaps. People accuse 1061 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: me of not answering questions here. Oh you crawfishing folks. Folk, No, folks, 1062 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 1: you you you're you're dealing with the wrong man today. 1063 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: If you got a question for me, fired at me here, 1064 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 1: why don't they ask it? I don't know the guy. 1065 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: I think the guy's crawfishing on me. He's like, oh, 1066 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: broad us wouldn't answer that question. I don't even know 1067 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: what the question was. I actually reached out and said, hey, 1068 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: what's the question? Ask me the question, sir. If you 1069 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: if you have a question, I'll answer. We'll have an answer. 1070 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: Show yourself, Show yourself, sir, show yourself. We're out of 1071 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: people have to use their names on Periscope. Uh No, 1072 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: they make up names like like Mickey's fan, Mickey's biggest 1073 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: fan is like at Mickey's biggest fan is a guy. 1074 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: You got some fans on Twitter, we'll ask, we'll answer 1075 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: that guy's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey. We appreciate everybody 1076 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: checking in on Twitter and periscope. Keep keep sending us stuff. 1077 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: We'll get to it tomorrow. We'll have a practice to recap. 1078 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: We'll keep talking about should be up. Scout's eye is up, 1079 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: Mickey's columns up. We got all kinds of coverage this afternoon, 1080 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: all kinds of car We got it. We got it 1081 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: blanketed here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And we'll talk 1082 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: to you again tomorrow sorrow on Talking Cowboys. This has 1083 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 1084 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.