WEBVTT - Release Your Job (feat. Nori Reed) 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.920 I could do a whole series on boarders books card. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:09.160 That's where I spent my child. Same. It's also where 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.319 I used to find guys to hook up with when 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.720 I was a teenager. Same. Yeah. Really, it's just like 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.840 being prey for pedipiles. It is, and that is why 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:28.800 Borders did close. Fran, very happy to see you wearing 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.519 I think your most expensive and stylish piece of clothing, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.879 which is a tied eye shirt with a marijuana leaf 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:37.400 on it that I bought you on the first trip 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:43.760 we ever talked together to Palm Springs Manories all alone 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.120 in Yes, I'm really glad you're wearing, you know, an expensive, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.200 designer curated piece of clothing. Because today we were talking 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:55.800 all about fashion through the lens of iconic two thousand 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.720 six film The Devil Worse Product. And here to help 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.680 us do that is nor Read, incredible comedian and TV writer. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:07.319 We're going to dive in all things fashion, rom com 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.800 Meryl Streep and Hathaway because this is like a virgin 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.880 the show we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.319 ros damn you and I'm Fran Toronto. Fran. What you 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.559 don't know is that that sweater is not just blue. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:24.240 It's not turquoise, it's not lapis, it's actually cerulean. Are 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.040 you wearing the Am I wearing the Tide High Weed 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:35.080 Dollar Bine shirt that you gave me? Yes? I am. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.520 Let me tell you so. Drake dropped a surprise album 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.920 called Honestly never Mind, which is such like a kind 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:47.840 of like funck Boy TikTok kind of album title, and 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.520 it was kind of immediately deemed the Academine album because 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.280 it just has a kind of trancy house feel. And 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.760 I would say that the beats there there are more 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.680 than there is rapping, Like some of the songs have 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.720 a very minimal amount of wrapping, and it's all just 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:11.080 kind of like dance music. It's good. I'm not gonna 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:12.680 lie it's I mean, it's it's some of it as 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.360 really background music, but it's like it really shook me. Um. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.920 It found me at a very specific place during my 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.400 week where I came home from a function very late 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.000 at night. I had a photo shoot the next morning, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.240 and I just got very very stoned and put on 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.040 the album because it had just dropped, and I got 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.839 into the shower and shaved all of my body hair 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.400 while listening to this Drake album very stoned, and I 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.880 was like, what is going on with my life? But 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.840 it was actually like a very meditative, like beautiful experience, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.560 and that the album lend, I think, lent itself to 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.400 to to that specific scene of of my life. I 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.600 don't I don't know that I've ever listened to Drake 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:06.600 album all the way through, like from from top to bottom. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.639 But I am interested in this because I have seen 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.920 so many people whose music taste I trust talking about 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:15.919 it and saying that it's good. So I definitely will 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.120 check it out. Did he announced it the same night 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:23.120 Beyonce announced? I don't know, actually, and we have to 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.639 talk about the Beyonce of it all. But real quick, like, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.320 I'm not really much of a Drake stand either. I 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.800 really really loved his album Nothing was the Same. That 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.480 was like such an era of New York for me. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.800 I loved his take Care era. I love nice for 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.880 what um so you know, I dabble here and there. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.840 I feel like Drake collaborated one time with Jamie XX 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.080 and take Care like famously from the x X as 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.680 a very x X song, and this album, honestly, never 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:57.560 Mind is influenced from that like a decade ago, you 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.800 know what I mean? And I really wish that he 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:04.680 had just hired Jamie XX or someone like him to 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.200 make what I think could have been slightly better house music. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.840 But what's on this album is good but still like 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.320 pretty generic. I feel like you would feel the same way. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.600 But I'd be interested to know what you think of it, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.040 because to me, it's kind of like a toothless like 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.560 Jamie XX rip off. But but the album definitely said definitely, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.440 I'll definitely give it a listen. I love that you're 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.400 like rubbing your tip as you talk about the Drake 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.719 look that this album it's it's giving sexual energy like 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.720 this album. This album is wearing a leak your sex 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:43.279 tape body suit. This album is giving jubiterm peuter jewelry. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.520 Only you know, it's Pride month and everyone wants to 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.599 be at least a little gay. Absolutely, and this album 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.400 has Susanne Barsha's phone number on their iPhone success okay 0:04:54.960 --> 0:05:00.520 not the six US. Oh my god. So I was 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:07.760 surprised that the Beyonce announcement did not make more of 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.560 a cultural impact. Did you feel that way too, Like, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:16.200 obviously everyone was talking about it, but it was not 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:21.640 to the same level as I feel like other Beyonce 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.440 announcements happened, and maybe that's because we are used to 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:30.720 her dropping entire albums and so it just becomes this 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.920 title wave so quickly, um r I P title. I 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.080 actually don't know if that still exists, but I'm sure 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.240 it does unfortunately, but this one, I think maybe because 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.160 I got a heads up a couple of hours before 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.320 it was happening that it was happening, and maybe that's 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.080 why I, like I wasn't on Twitter and like didn't 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.240 see everyone like saying like, oh my god, Beyonce is coming. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:58.080 But I do think that, you know, obviously, as we 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.320 have established many times before, I am y arry much 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.640 on TikTok, and I do think even though like I'm 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.240 in my like little algorithm, I think I do see 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.320 a good cross section of what's happening, and that is 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.440 what I feel like I'm seeing of like the pulse 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.760 of pop culture, like what people are talking about, what 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.400 people are making tiktoks about, especially younger people. And I 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:23.760 just have not seen a lot about Beyonce, even from 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.719 people on TikTok who are continuously talking about pop culture. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.240 So maybe like maybe it's coming, you know, when the 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:36.080 album comes, when Renaissance drops, you know, in July. But yeah, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.359 I was just surprised. And also I guess, like, you know, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.599 the Vogue UK shoot was really good, but did she 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.120 really like give anything away? I guess maybe that's what 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.840 it is. It's like, there's not a lot to work with. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.040 That's it. There's a lack of information. There's she's even 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.000 selling merch that doesn't exist. People are buying merch online 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:59.320 that does not exist, has no actual like skew numbers 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.920 or anything, which only Beyonce could do. I think you're right, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.640 there's a lack of information purposefully that kind of creates 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.240 a lot of allure around it. And we are recording 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:15.000 on Monday morning, so tonight a Beyonce song drops and 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.240 maybe we'll have eaten our words or something. But I 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.080 will also say, um Show Kunishi, the designer that made 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.840 her like kind of armor breastplate for the Vogue shoot, 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.520 was designing something for me that week for like this 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.520 party that my friend Cheeky through And you can basically 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.160 say that I wear the same garment as Beyonce. Wow, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:39.400 you're like Destiny's cousin, do you know the Destiny's cousin 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.480 Destiny's Freema. Um, do have you heard the tea about 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.280 the album? No, what's the t There's some tea that 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.800 came out in March of this year that Honey de 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:55.520 Jon is producing a lot of album that that would 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.800 be a gag, you know what I mean? And and 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:04.160 it makes a lot of sense. Beyonce is always on trend, honey, 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.280 and like this wave and era of like discoee house 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.800 music that's in a lot of contemporary like albums right now. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.400 If Beyonce did that, it would be incredible. And for 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.480 those who don't know, the children out there who need 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:22.680 to be educated. Honey Dijon is a legendary New York 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:31.480 City DJ. Has some incredible albums of really amazing dance music. Um, 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.319 she is incredible remixes. She is an icon. Um definitely 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:39.320 go check her out a fashion mogul, I mean she is. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.280 She is one of the one of the o G 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.840 New York dolls. I have. I have something that you 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.440 know has been on my heart. Okay, well let me 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.959 start with this. I miss pampered hands a lot like 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:57.040 I miss our nail salon so much. I mean these 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.800 look at so busted. Look at these busted nails. The 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.240 gents can't see, but I'm holding up a peter see 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.200 the finger which I don't. I'm literally holding. I'm sorry 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.920 that was an accident, um, But like I don't think 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.360 we realize you and I collectively realize how good we 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:19.840 have it at Pampered Hands because Dalyn has these girls 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.360 like trained down, and it doesn't matter which girl you get, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.840 they always give you the exact same manicure that is 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:34.480 like such a crystal clean cut manicure that lasts for ages. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.520 And I feel like every time I go to any 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.600 other nail salon, it's just like garbage compared to like 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.760 what I get at Pampered Hands. Do you know what 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:47.040 I mean? Yeah, I you know my my struggle with 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.079 Pampered Hands. As as we've talked about before, I would 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:55.360 like a more luxurious experience. And yet when I have 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.240 sought that out and found it, I have still wound 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:03.120 up back at and Bred Hands, And exactly it's it's 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.160 that girl. Yeah. For those for those of you that 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.760 don't know, in l A, this this place like it's 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.840 a very crowded, like no frills like strip mall, like 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:18.240 Vietnamese run like nail salon. All the girls are so 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.760 so good at what they do, and you walk in 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.240 and there's no appointments. Basically it's like walking only and 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.079 you walk in and they lie to you and they 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.280 tell you that the weight is like thirty or forty 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.520 minutes just to like get you to leave because they're 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.480 always too busy and I only ever wait like five 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.520 minutes and then they see you and it's like I 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.400 have actually sometimes waited for a very long time. Wow, 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.880 really before because I was waiting too long. Daylyn. I 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.200 think maybe hooks me up sometimes because I'm always like 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.400 in there. Because one time I will say she was like, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.920 we don't have anybody to do I need specifically needed 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.400 a gel extension. She's like, we don't have anybody to 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.440 do that, and I was like, please, Jelyn, I'm in 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.400 a Russian so sorry, blah blah blah, and then she 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.840 removed things around and got someone to see me, like 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.160 in five minutes. I feel like I felt like I 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.280 was like a celebrity or something. Have you started watching 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.520 Miss Marvel yet? Yes, it's a perfect show. So it's 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.600 so good. I really I really am enjoying it. Um. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.239 I think it's so fun. I've watched all the episodes. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:24.559 I'm so proud of Fatty. I love how there are 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:29.640 so many different kinds of Pakistani characters and none of 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.600 them feel like flattened. Like it's there's so many nuanced 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:39.480 conversations about being Pakistani like in the show that don't 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.360 really need to be in the show, you know what 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.200 I mean, and yet they are and I don't know. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.280 I love the show makes space for that in addition 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.040 to just being funny, entertaining, delightful, Like the lead is 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.040 so charismatic, Like what else did you think about it? 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.920 It's just so fun and such a nice I think 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.800 departure from a lot of the m c U properties recently, 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.920 which have been very like heavy. And also I think 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.440 the steaks have to be really really huge, And I 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.800 like that this is a much smaller story um the 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.600 main character, her whole world feels very real. I think 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.400 I was talking about this last week. I think it's 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.360 really interesting to watch a Marvel show that kind of 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:24.720 like is self aware about the fandom of itself and 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.680 kind of incorporates that into the story. And I like that. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.440 I like seeing someone who's like a superhero stand gets 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.040 superpowers like seeing this kid who like has grown up 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.080 in a world where superheroes are real, like become one 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.240 and have that person be like Pakistani. Yeah, it's just 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.160 it's it's really well done so far. I like, and 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.960 the crush is so hot. Cam Run the one that 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.600 now is maybe involved in the Oh my god, Yeah 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.240 there's this. It's just I'm I'm really excited for the 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.560 rest of the show. I texted Fatina, It's like, please 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.480 just give me the rest of the episodes. I need 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:06.160 them now. I have really been bad at consuming pop 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:12.120 culture recently because I've been working, I've been trying to 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:16.360 be more social. Oh well, I did last week watch 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:22.439 that there's a new Netflix docuseries about fundamentalist Mormonism and 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.720 right how evil it is. And I did watch it 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.720 in twenty four hours last week, and it was really disturbing. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:36.080 It was interesting because I had just finished watching Under 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.040 the Banner of Heaven, the Hulu show, which is also 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.080 like kind of the The thesis of that show is 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:48.680 like fundamentalist Mormonism bad maybe, and just putting a light 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:54.160 on extremely corrupt elements of the church. Yes, so interesting 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.800 to watch both of those things. It's not like they 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.240 were necessarily in conversation with each other, but like, having 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.920 watched Under the Banner of Heaven first, I then like 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.920 watched this thing that gave me some more context for 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.400 what fundamentalist Mormonism it was actually like, which is cool. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.559 I also saw that um Isabel Sandoval, who directed this 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.240 really great film Lingua Franca, directed one of the episodes 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.000 of Under the Better of Heaven that is being submitted 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.360 for emy consideration, which is pretty cool. And she's a 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:28.480 trans filmmaker, so I love that for her. I finished 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.040 The Staircase, so I have nothing, nothing left on my roster. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.560 And the Staircase, let me tell you, I got really 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.600 boring at the end, but it was worth it so 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.480 that I could see Parker Posey giving one of the 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.560 most amazing line readings I've ever seen, where she was 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.360 like laughs, not fair, laughs, not fair, and the law 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.320 reflects that she was incredible, which is such an iconic 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.560 thing to say. I have been asking if we could 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.920 do a Josie in the Possycots episode for so long. 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.200 Parker Posey isn't Josie in the poss Yes, she's Josie. No, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.800 she's the Oh I did see after I mentioned it 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.880 last week, A lot of people have been asking us 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.760 to do a Star Wars episode, so I really think 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.920 we do need to do one. And this week is 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.760 the finale of Obi Wan Kenobi, and last week was 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:20.520 so good with Young Anakin Skywalker in a flashback, which 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.680 was really fulfilling for me personally. I definitely think we 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.040 need to do a Star Wars show. I think you 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.840 need to do some work. Okay, if you give me 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.240 the prescription, Actually, will you give the Virgins and myself 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.560 the prescription for a few that we might rewatch in 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.880 time for our Star Wars episode. I think definitely the 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.120 prequels because the original films feel like so part of 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.480 the collective subconscious to me that like you don't need 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:50.080 to rewatch, Yeah, and then the new ones the Force Awakens. Sure, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:55.040 I might actually watch the Last Jedi because I haven't 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.920 seen it in a while and I do think it's 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.280 pretty good. Don't watch the Rise of Skywalker, it is 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.120 huge mega flop, Dudokoka, and then of the TV shows 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.320 like I will definitely want to talk about Obi Wan Kenobi, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.960 and like maybe The Mandalorian a little bit, but like 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.840 I don't think you need to watch them, and I 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.840 don't know about that. Maybe watch Spaceballs. Maybe I'll watch 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:18.640 Spaceballs and Preparation SABA because I love Spaceballs. Baseball got 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.080 Joan Rivers and it is so good. I mean, Joan 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.240 Rivers is an exception, but like I just don't like 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.120 like bro comedies like that. I just I don't know. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.120 I just I don't know that that's what Spaceballs is. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.920 I don't know. Maybe I I haven't seen it since 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.960 I was a kid, so maybe, honestly, I'll eat my words, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.360 But I don't know if I'm gonna watch episode one, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.800 Episode one, the Phantom Menace. Don't people say that that's 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.920 the worst That's Star Wars movie ever? It is, and 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.480 I'm currently in the middle of watching it. I watched 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.440 some of it when I was on vacation last week 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.240 and then got distracted by something else. And I did 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.360 a rewatch of the prequels and like the very beginning 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.200 of Quarantine, and I skipped The Phantom Menace because of 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.920 that same thing, like I remembered it being bad you 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.520 have to take breathe jar beings scenes. Maybe, but I 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.080 think because of that, I need to watch it. And 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.800 also i'm you know you and McGregor is so hot 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:18.800 in it, So I'm just watching for him really well, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.239 and for Darth Maul. I got my work cut out 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.399 for me. Slash, I probably won't watch that much. You 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.360 probably will do not I will do so, I will. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.919 I will have to do some because I don't remember. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.200 For any of the virgins who don't know yet, we 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.639 are doing a live show on Tuesday, June, New York City. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.720 It's going to be so much fun. Tickets are still available, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.040 Please get them and come carry with us. We are 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.280 going to be doing a live episode. There's going to 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:53.080 be shows from some amazing drag queens, comedy set, cute 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.080 little after party afterwards, our first ever live event. You 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.359 don't want to miss it. Yes, And it must be said, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.600 this isn't us like a podcast episode taping, Okay, Like 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.240 I feel like podcast tapings get a bad rap for 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.560 a good reason because they're kind of boring sometimes and 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.879 ours is not boring. And please get your ticket now 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.160 instead of waiting till you get to the door because 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:17.879 they're going to be more expensive at the door. Get 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.760 your tickets now. We would hate to have to turn 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.520 you away at the door, would hate And Fran and 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.919 I will be standing there booing and hissing at you 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:41.480 for not getting how dare you shame? There's actually someone 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.520 who wears the Newsy cap who works at the drive 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.880 through Starbucks that I go to, and you're here and 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.080 and she well, I guess I don't want to assume 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.240 her gender. They always say, UM, have a good day, friend, 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:58.119 and the friend feels very gendered that think, yeah, oh yeah, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.960 there's words like that. There's like friend buddy. Buddy does 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.480 feel like something that one of the like older men 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.880 I picked up in a Border's would call me when 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:14.480 I was running late for a musical theater where, Oh 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.280 my god, I do think this is kind of a 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.720 perfect segue, though, because it is because the place where 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:24.280 I first bought the novel The Divil Worce Product was 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.440 in a Border's bookstore, because it is famously a book 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.560 that was adapted into a move I forget, I literally forget. 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.600 Let me set the scene for the Virgins for anyone 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.000 who doesn't know so. The Devil wors Product is a 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.680 two thousand six film that was adapted from a book 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:45.880 by Laura Weissberger, and it is very famously about her 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:51.240 time as one of Anna Winter's assistance um. She very 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.800 loosely fictionalized it into the story of, you know, a 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.960 young girl in New York City who goes to work 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:03.600 for this like how Epowered fashion magazine editor in chief 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.440 um and the trials and tribulations that she goes through. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.080 It was adapted into a film very quickly, starring Anne Hathaway, 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.680 Meryl Streep, Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci, that guy from Entourage 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.719 who every six months Twitter wants to remind us as 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.960 the actual villain of the film, and also the woman 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.040 who was in the Rent movie. And I would say, 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.879 for like, you know, a few years, it was just 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.160 a normal good movie. It was just like an amazing movie, 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.879 and everyone was happy about it. And then the you know, 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.760 the decade and the half that followed was just everyone 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.720 meaning this movie to death and claiming as the most 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.520 important film of the gay community to have ever existed. 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.360 The thing that I remember the most distinctly about the 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.560 first time I experienced the movie was, I don't know 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.200 if you remember this. When the first trailer was released 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.679 for it, they did something which was very unusual for 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.080 trailers at the time, which was it wasn't like a 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.960 cut together montage. It was the whole scene from the 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.920 beginning of the film where Andy and Hathaway's character goes 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:07.199 to interview at Runway the magazine, And it was like 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.760 very shocking at the time to get so dropped into 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.560 the world in the trailer. And I was so excited 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.479 because I had read the book. I was very like, 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:18.159 you know, it was a gay teen, so I was 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.359 always looking for what the chicklet of the summer was. 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:26.200 It wasn't The Diaries. Well, Nanny Diaries was very much 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.760 of the time, but devil Wors product far surpast, and 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.960 I do think it is one of the rare book 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.440 to film adaptations where the movie is so much better 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:42.879 than the yeah, because in the book it's so obviously 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:47.440 on Andy's side and you're really only getting her experience 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.760 and the um you know, Miranda Priestley played by Meryl 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.400 Streep in the film is so flat and two dimensional 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.480 and like it's just the villain. And like in the movie, 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.439 obviously it's Meryl Streep, so like she's very humanized. You 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.159 understand why she's a monster. She's still a monster, but 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.399 you get why. And I do think it is really 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:06.919 her movie. She was nominated for an Oscar for it, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.120 so Nori places in time. Do you remember like what 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:14.560 you're if not, your reactions when you first watched it, 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.159 Like how what was your how's your relationship to the 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.800 film built? Like what what? What? What was your relationship 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:24.280 to it? Well, when I graduated college, I my first 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.800 uh work was in the fashion industry because that's what 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.640 I wanted to do. And so I graduated from college, 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:34.000 moved to New York, and then first I interned at 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:40.720 Narcissio Rodriguez, who at the time was Michelle Obama, you 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:45.000 know in inaugural dress like cut like huge, juge designer, 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.320 and it was like so toxic and so crazy, and 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.919 I remember thinking like I'm like Andy, Like it's like, 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.560 oh my god, I'm like Andy, like because you know, 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.280 it was like a lot of like yelling at me 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.800 and like being like cleaned this up and go here, 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.520 and like just very stressful, was delivering like garments to 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.199 celebrities and like I just remember thinking like, Wow, this 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.840 is my Like like I'm like this is so fabulous 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.239 And it absolutely wasn't. It was so bad. It was 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:17.399 a time where that kind of story I think was 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:22.080 very popular and very desired in pop culture, like the 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:27.320 peeling back of this super glamorous industry. I definitely think 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.320 it started with America's Next Top Model obviously, which we 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:34.080 have covered on the podcast before. But you know, we 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.560 were also used to just seeing this world from afar, 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.320 and this was one of the first times where someone 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:44.320 was like, oh, this is very actually very ugly and 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.879 very cursed. Um, and I'm going to spill all of 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.600 the tea all the tea. It is kind of interesting 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.120 how that movie or things like it, because Ugly Betty 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:57.639 came out the same year. I think, um that, Like 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:01.480 I also like watched the this movie and Ugly Bettie 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.120