1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: When I did the podcast with you all, I was 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: telling you probably the most impactful interview I've done in my. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Career, he wrote. Out Man's real he wrote, I heard. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: Was shot of Troy talk about the tax letters. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 4: About finance. But we talk in a language that is common. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: To the people that's from the communities that we grew 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: up in. 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 5: You all are the bright spot. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 3: Thank you nerdship for Black Americans. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 4: This is the knowledge that actually matters. I flawed both 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: of you for this thing. 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Isn't it a country issue. It's not an American issue, 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: It's a world issue. 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: You came to earn Lisa. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 5: All Right, guys, welcome back. Yeah, yeah, we got a 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 5: special episode. We got my brother Josh Leverett when my 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 5: dog's actually was introduced in Dubai Terrence Jay's wedding. Yeah, 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 5: epic situation. Congratulations to him again. But we started to 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 5: talk about, you know, business and investing in different things. 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: And you know, we always meet entrepreneurs that most people 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 5: kind of don't think about non traditional businesses, let's just 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 5: say that, or businesses that you know, make a lot 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 5: of sense, but you don't really think about it. And 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 5: this is one of the things that that's kind of 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 5: the blueprint of EYL. We did the Vendom Machine episode. 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 5: We see Vendom Machines your whole life, and nobody really 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: thinks about who owns the Vendo Machines truck and the 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 5: same thing. You know, see trucks on the highway all 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 5: the time, and the vast majority of people never really 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: looked at trucking as like a business, maybe an occupation 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 5: that one day like I could drive a truck, but 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: they never really looked at it like who's making millions 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 5: of dollars from owning the actual trucks, And the same 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 5: goals for you know, mobile homes, variety of variety of 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: different things. So this one is something that's really big 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 5: as far as dog training. So been in the game 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: for a long time and built the empire in the 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 5: form of media that the show with Netflix celebrity clients, then. 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: You know, was able to flip into. 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 5: The real estate from that, so multi layered, multi facet 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 5: operation that you got going. But I think that is 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 5: something that I don't think a lot of people fully 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: appreciate the business because everybody has do a lot of 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 5: people have dogs. 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: I think you know who appreciates it the people who 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: have dogs, because if you can't control a dog, you're 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: always looking like, yo, man, what am I supposed to do? 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: We don't have pets, but I can imagine I've seen 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: it with people, just like out of control. I actually 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: watched my wife get dragged down by a dog. She 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: was trying to walk it, and it was a rock Wilder. 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Hello, people get sick of that ship. 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Hello house every day get dragged Yeah yeah. The rock 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Walery didn't last much longer after that. There's the foremo, 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: thank you for joinings, thanks for having me. 56 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 4: Man, appreciate your brothers. 57 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: Nah, oh good man. All right, so let's let's let's 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: where does this start? Right? 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: Like, when does this actually start? Where you you say, Okay, 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 5: I have a skill with dogs, and I'm actually going 61 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 5: to turn it into a business. 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: So we got to go rewind, go back to Oakland, California, 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: two thousand and five. 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: One time, one time, one time for the bag. 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Uh you know, uh, you know. I went to school, 66 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: I graduated, uh, and I ended up going. 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: To a trade school. 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: And in the trade school it was for airline uh uh. 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: Aviation maintenance. 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: And with the aviation maintenance, I graduated two thousand and 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: one so y'all know what happened two thousand and one, 72 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: nine eleven, right, So nine eleven comes through, and it's 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: basically like, you know, I'm in school and the next 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: day I started. After I started school, you had the 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: World Trade Center situation. So I go into an industry 76 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: knowing that you know, it was it was affected, you know, 77 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: and the people wouldn't want to fly. It was it 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: was bad, right, and uh, you know, basically I was like, 79 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: well I started, let me go ahead and finish. But 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 2: in the process, I started reading book books right, and 81 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: in high school, my independent teachers at Oakland from Oakland 82 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Tech High School, he gave me rich Dad, poor dad, Right, So. 83 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: I opened up, you know, my whole understanding of. 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: About to go into this job. You know, like, how 85 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: is this all gonna work out? This goes against all 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: the rules of this book. So I read it again 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: once I was in school, and I started coming up 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: with ideas to do, like hot dog trucks outside. 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: Of the damn airport. 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: You know, I was covering whatever I could do to 91 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: trap some some money. And of course, coming from Oakland, California, you know, 92 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot of different hustles, a lot of street hustles. 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: But you know we're trying to stay clear that, right, 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: because I got friends, you know, doing doing long times 95 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: in the pen, so I'm trying to figure out something. 96 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: Plus my mom is an entrepreneur, so you know, I really, 97 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: you know, learned a lot about you know, small business. 98 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: But you know, I finished school and I had an 99 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: opportunity to go work as an aircraft uh and get it, 100 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: get in as the in the Union as an aircraft cleaner. 101 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: Long story short, I get caught up by the smoke 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: of weed when I'm in training. After I got in 103 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: this whole situation so ends up. After I get into 104 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: the I worked for Southwest, got into the apprenticeship, didn't 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: work out, sent my ass back to Oakland. So I 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: had to figure out I was gonna do. So I 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: started Savage Wheels. Now I was winning the rims and 108 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: the spinners and everything and the TV's and the hair 109 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: rests all that. So I started Savage Wheels, which is 110 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: my rim company. And midway through that I was a 111 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: cool company, you know, I was very hands on whatever. 112 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: But then the weed game, you know, the medical marijuana 113 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: situation and especially in California, became the new thing, right, 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: so I said, shut these doors down to put some 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: lights up. 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: Right. 117 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: So I started getting down on the medical cannabis, you know, 118 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: and I started growing pounds, and I was doing my 119 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: thing doing that. But you know, I told my moms 120 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: when I was doing it. 121 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: She was like, Mom, is medical. 122 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: It's cool, don't worry about it. But then she started 123 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 2: how I was moving. She was like, nah, you're moving 124 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: like a d boy, you know what I mean. So 125 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: so it ended up kind of win them situations like 126 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: a I gotta I gotta switch lanes. Well, part of 127 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: the process of growing the medical marijuana was security. 128 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: Right now. 129 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: I didn't want to get caught with guns, money and weed. 130 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: I was like, but if I have these dogs, you know, 131 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: if I have security dogs, this might be a better 132 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: security option, you know. And if I get in trouble, 133 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: at least I had these dogs, I'll have to have 134 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: firearms and catch the case. 135 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: Right. 136 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: So that's really the nuts and boast. 137 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: Now, I always love dogs, and I grew up with dogs, 138 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: but I saw this as like, all right, I started 139 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: learning how to train the dogs for protection. And we 140 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: train the dogs for protection, you're learning on a whole 141 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: nother level of dog training because you're dealing with super 142 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: fire dogs. You know, a lot of power, a lot 143 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: of strength, a lot of drive. And I started doing 144 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: the protection stuff and I fell in love with it. 145 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: So in the process of fall in love with that, 146 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: I was like, well, maybe I could do this as 147 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: a business. And I ended up meeting a mentor in 148 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: this kind of city, and you know what, let me 149 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: go ahead walk away from the game. You know what 150 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 151 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: I figured like a lot of dudes was coming from 152 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: out of town. 153 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: They were trying to like I knew that eventually things 154 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: were going to get overly competitive. I want to get 155 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: into a lane that was was well, I was being 156 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: my own lane. 157 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: How and this point did you figure out how to 158 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: train it? 159 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Right? You said that you were learning to train it. 160 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: How did you learn how to train it? What type 161 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: of dogs specifically? Like there's certain dogs that you're not 162 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: going to use for security, Like I was looking into 163 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: this right as having a home. It's like, do you 164 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: get a dog? What type of doll? So how did 165 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: you learn how to do this? 166 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: So I, you know, I had my first mentor was 167 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: from you know, East Oakland, California. Shout out Ross Harambe 168 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: you know a Jamaican brother who took me under his 169 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: wing right to show me the game, you know, and 170 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 2: I was like, bro, I want to learn this. Plus 171 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: I want to learn how to you know, I want 172 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: to learn it from my dog. Plus I want to 173 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: learn how to do it because I was always infactuated 174 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: with like dog training, protection dogs and all that. Right, 175 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: So he talked, took me under his wing, and I 176 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: just show up every Saturday. I stopped going to the 177 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: club I started. I was not interested in anything but 178 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: just training these dogs, right, and I was really doing 179 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: again for my business security, but also because I was 180 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: very passionate about it. And you know, I ended up 181 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: having a conversation one of my close friends. He's about 182 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: to go do some crazy shit. He was like, Josh, man, 183 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'm about to go do some 184 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: wild shit. 185 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: Man money funny da da da. 186 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: I said, bro, go up to our football coaches, go 187 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 2: with jeremiahs. Because my other man had already caught a case. 188 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: He ended up going to work for a football coach 189 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: in Seattle. I said, go to go to Seattle, and 190 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: me talking him into moving to Seattle. I talked myself 191 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: into moving Seattle because I knew that's what my mans was. 192 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: They had a little club and all that. And then 193 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: so I said, I took, you know, everything I was 194 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: doing in Oakland and said, let. 195 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: Me pack my backs. 196 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go up to I called my football coach 197 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: had offered me a job the year before. It was like, yo, coach, 198 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: what's up that job? So I go up to I 199 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: go up to Seattle, and I move into a two 200 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: story house. I pack up my lights all underneath, you know, 201 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: in my little trailer, and I got a two story 202 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: house so I could grow bud downstairs and live upstairs 203 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: and then go to work. Well, two days into me 204 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: living in Seattle, after my coach gave me the job, 205 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: I saw a house get raided right crazy, like crazy 206 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: maybe like all type of you know, cops ar fifteens everything. 207 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: So I said, Yo, this shit is hot. So I 208 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: was like, y'all all have to make this dog thing work, right. 209 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: I don't know about the growing things. So I literally 210 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: met my next mentors, like God, Sid Bro I met 211 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: my next mentor, Bob Smith, you know, and you know 212 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: in this industry, like you know, you go training like 213 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: high caliber German shepherds. You were asking what kind of 214 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: dogs you got, German shepherds, Rottwiler's Dutch shepherds, Belgium malawise, 215 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: like the biting dogs, the dogs that, uh, you know, 216 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: actually working dogs. And I ended up, you know, going 217 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: to a training club meeting my mentor, and. 218 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: I think the rest was history. Bro. 219 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: I just I just really like locked in and was like, 220 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm about to make this into something 221 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: because I saw it. He was actually monetizing it. He 222 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: was selling packages for like two thousand and five thousand 223 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: dollars to train these people's dogs. And his thing was like, 224 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't even about the protection, it was about behavior modification. 225 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: So you take the knowledge that you have from the protection, 226 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: and now you can train the most advanced elite high 227 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: drive dogs. Now you can train any dog. So he 228 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: started teaching me how to just make money training you know, 229 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: average dogs is just being aggressive or unsocial whatever. And 230 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: once he opened the door to that, I just saw 231 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: the opportunity man, and it was like, you know what, 232 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: I'm about to turn this up. And I basically cut 233 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: off every other backup plan. I didn't want a social 234 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: security cause, I mean, what d up happening was I 235 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: didn't want any what is it not social curity but 236 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: the when the unemployment or other because what ended up 237 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: happening is two thousand and nine. Now you have beast 238 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: layoffs because the economy. 239 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: Right. 240 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: So I ended up saying, you know what, I'm gonna 241 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: design these flyers on, build this little makeshift website, and 242 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: I'm going all in on this dog. 243 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: Say I'm a follower. Bob told me. 244 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: So my mentored up getting me the game on that. 245 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: And at the same time, my mom gave me a 246 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: book called social Media One Hour a Day, right, And 247 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: in that social media book, I never opened it, but 248 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: I committed to social media one hour a day. So 249 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: I made Facebook page. You know, I'll be on on 250 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: Craigslist making ads. 251 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: You know. 252 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: I found in Shorty who knew how to make do HTML, 253 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: so she would do fancy ads, and I'm like advertising 254 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: literally from Craigslist. Then I'm going up to the park 255 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: passing out flyers, doing my thing. And then I heard 256 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: a boy yelp, right. And the way I heard about 257 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 2: Yelp was from not showing up to an appointment and 258 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: finding out what it was to have a bad review. 259 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: So once I learned what a bad review was I say, Yo, 260 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: you got to have an impeccable reputation if you go 261 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: play with this internet, because you know, your name is 262 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: out there and anybody can say anything, so you gotta 263 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: stand on good business. So the combination of like learning 264 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: my skills, learning how to hustle on the internet, and 265 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: just you know, cut off all all back of plans 266 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: allowed me to just continue to just progress, and I 267 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: basically moved. I said, I'm gonna go to Silicon Valley, 268 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: which is south of the Bay, you know, south of 269 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Oakland where I'm from, because those checks don't bounce. You know, 270 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: it's Silicon Valley money, so it's big money out there. 271 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: So you know, I just rented a room and I 272 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: literally hustled and sold training packages until I had one 273 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: hundred thousand stacked in this little into this little safe 274 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: and I never spent any of it. Right, I didn't 275 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: buy a pair of tennis shoes because coming from the game, 276 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: you take ups and downs sometimes you know, you just 277 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: gotta like you gotta go on stack mode. You know 278 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: what I mean, you got you know, you know what 279 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: it is to lose it all, So yeah, I gotta 280 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to lose it So basically, bro, I 281 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: just I just put my head down browing to just 282 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: built the brand organically from the mud in San Jose. 283 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,119 Speaker 2: And then from there, you know, I started getting celebrities. 284 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: I started getting you know, getting real good reviews. Continue 285 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 2: to make social media, Instagram popped outs and how the 286 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: videos are popping and YouTube all. I became a YouTuber 287 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine before he Cats was even YouTube. 288 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: I just made sense to me to put your shit 289 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: out there on social media at this time. 290 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: This is I mean YouTube comes out two thousand and 291 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: five or six. Two thousand and nine is really early. 292 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: What type of content are you making? Right, Like, you 293 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: didn't open the book on social media, but you're making 294 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: at that time, in the early stages, what do you 295 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: are you trying to get creative of ways to attract people? 296 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 4: Like what was the content based on? 297 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: So my first video was basically like a commercial, you know, 298 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: And I still have my same editor from not long ago, Drew. 299 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: He may always made me look good on camera. 300 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: So the first thing I made was like a commercial, right, 301 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: So I'd always put that in my ads on Craigslist, 302 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 2: the free ads. But then I made Day in the 303 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: Life and the day in the Life was just to 304 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: follow me around while me just hustling, you know, going 305 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: to appointments, you know, advertising, going to different you know establishments, 306 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: meeting and greeting people. And yeah, it was just it 307 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: was just doing that, like just this day in the 308 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Life video. So I made like four episodes, but I figured, like, damn, 309 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: this editing is just kind of expensive, you know, because 310 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: I was invested in I which I kind of wish 311 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: I never stopped being a YouTuber because then once Instagram 312 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: came out, I was like, oh, I could just put 313 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: upload my own stuff. So then I just remember the 314 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: post post post post and just really just showcase my life, 315 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: just showcase me training dogs and showcase me being that 316 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: guy and then having the celebs on there and having 317 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, the different different and just being organic. 318 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: Man. 319 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: The whole thing was just to be organic man. 320 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: And I was always real, real, all about just being 321 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: organic and being an example and showing even showing the 322 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: youngsters like yo, you don't have to go play ball, 323 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: you don't have to be a rapper. Like I'm making 324 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: money and like I said, I have already stacked a 325 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: hundred GE's cash in It's safe, you know what. I 326 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: mean in the first couple of years of my business. 327 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: So you know, it was just it is all that, man, 328 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: I just make content about you know what, what was 329 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: what I was doing on my day in the life. 330 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: So how much how much was the packages? 331 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: So you know, I sell I started selling packages like 332 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: a thousand dollars, two thousand dollars, you know what does 333 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: that include? So that would include like amount of a 334 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: certain amount of like uh, private sessions and then group classes. 335 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: Right, so people will need to get. 336 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Started, you know, with some private instruction and then they 337 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: start coming to the groups. And I would use the 338 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: group classes to be like a walking billboard. So I 339 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: started doing the group classes in highly populated areas, right 340 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: and then and then people would see that and that 341 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: would be a free lead magnet, right, so I would 342 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: be able to get leads. We passing out flyers and 343 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: people will see me everywhere, you know. So so that 344 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: was pretty much with the packages included. You know, now 345 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: my package is now we're in it's more of a 346 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: digital world. I do zooms and kickstart calls and and 347 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: more like zoom training I could do from anywhere. But 348 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: it was all about selling, just selling training packages. 349 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: Like a thousand dollars, how many how many training sessions 350 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: is then. 351 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: Oh, that would get you like ten sessions, five sessions, 352 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: five sessions private and five sessions group. And the thing 353 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: about the group is the group. 354 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: You're gonna show up. 355 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: They gonna come regardless that that that that hour is fixed. 356 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: You see what I mean. So if you sell them 357 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: privates and you throw the groups in, you can throw 358 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: as many groups as you want. So I can say, 359 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: I it was ten groups, it's all good because they're 360 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: gonna just be coming to the same group I was 361 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: gonna do. 362 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 5: Anyway, that's enough to you don't have at the ten 363 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 5: they're good, Well, they would have depends on what kind 364 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 5: of dog we're dealing with. 365 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: You got big problems, you got little problems, you got 366 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: big problems. You know, I gotta get you on a 367 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: bigger package. And then dependent if you wanted to do 368 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: protection training. So it's basically all about the evaluation. And 369 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: then once you do the evaluation, you know, you assess 370 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: the dog, assess the client, and uh, you know, you 371 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: try to you know, try to try to get that money. 372 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: Take me through the process of a session, right like 373 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: when you're evaluating, let's say it is for behavioral modification. 374 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: Is the problem the dog or is it the owner? Like, 375 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: what's what's the first thing you're looking at? When you're 376 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: looking at these people as they sign up as clients, 377 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: You're like, all right, session one, I can like what 378 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: are you seeing looking for? 379 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: Right away? 380 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: So when I'm doing a temperament and evaluation, what I'm 381 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: generally assessing is like the major thing is the dog's problem? 382 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Like what are they struggling with it? Is it's both 383 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: the owner and the dog's problem, right, because the owners 384 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: got the problem. Everyone's paying right, So when I'm looking 385 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: at a dog number one, I'm gonna assess the temperament, right, 386 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying, is this dog a dominant dog and just 387 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: getting away with being a bully and pushing everybody over? 388 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: Or is he a scaredy cat and he's doing reactive 389 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: shit and he's aggressive because he's scared. Either way it 390 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: goes they need training. So whatever problem they have, we 391 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: don't even address the problem at first. What we do 392 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: is we address the actual fact that they don't have 393 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: any training in any communication with their dog, Like the 394 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: dogs really like checked out, So how's he gonna trust 395 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: you respect you? If the dog is has you haven't 396 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: worked with the dog and built any rapport or built 397 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: any value for your for your leadership, and you know 398 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: pretty much the whole goal is just to assess whether 399 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: the dog has too much energy, or the dog has 400 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: is not getting enough exercise, or the dog is becoming 401 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: dominant and getting away with too much, or you know, 402 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: the dog is not being supported when he's nervous. So 403 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: all of these things will contribute to the dog continuously 404 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: to have this problems. 405 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: So okay, So on the business side, right, you're doing 406 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: a thousand dollars per client for the most part, Right, 407 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 5: how many clients can can you realistically work in the schedule, 408 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 5: like on a monthly basis without it becoming like too much? 409 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: Well, I knew right there when I built the brand, 410 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: it wasn't about because in rich dad, poor dad, Right, 411 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: you say you could be self employed, you could be 412 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: a business owner. So right there, I knew that I 413 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: needed to have a business where I had people who 414 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: work for me. So immediately I started training mentor mentees 415 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 2: right so I would be able to leverage So if 416 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: I had easy dogs, I could pass them off and 417 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: I can have multiple trainers who can do dog training sessions. 418 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: So of course you have as many as you hours 419 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: you have in a day, right, but then you have 420 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: to have time for marketing, you have time for group class. 421 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: You got to have all these different things. 422 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: So it was really about just packing up that calendar, 423 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: making sure I was packing up my other you know, 424 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: my trainer's calendar, and then being able to leverage the 425 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: trainer's skill set. But I had to make sure that 426 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: they you know, they're wearing my brand, so I had 427 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: to make sure that they were tight, and I would 428 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: kind of take them under my wing before I put 429 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: them out there, and then they would go out there 430 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: and do their thing. 431 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: So yeah, other people that was training. 432 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, immediately immediately I immediately took on a mentee, how 433 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: did you get those people? Man? You know what, I 434 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: always look for people to get Minte's always look for 435 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: people who want want it from me. I don't go 436 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: chasing them. I look for who's chasing me. You see 437 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like one of those things that 438 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: you know, I like, who likes me? You know, shout out, 439 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: shout out Goldie down there in Florida right on his 440 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: pee talk. Right. The thing is, you gotta get people 441 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: who are engaged, you know what I mean, Like the 442 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: teacher is gonna get the best results from the teachers, 443 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: from the teachers patting in the front of the class 444 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: doing this, you know, that's the one they engage, they 445 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: getting information. So I would go for people who really 446 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: want it to be down, you know, because if you 447 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: go try to chase them, they gonna feel like they're 448 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: to chase or they you know, there to pray you 449 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: got to go chase them. 450 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: I'm the catch, you see what I'm saying. 451 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: So I want them to, you know, come to me, 452 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: and then I know that they're gonna be ready. They're 453 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: gonna be loyal to the brand, you know. And that 454 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: was the thing of building a culture for people to 455 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: be proud to say, I work for Calie Canaan. I'm 456 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: rock with Calie Canin. So that's why I did. I 457 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: really made it a culture. I made it something like, man, 458 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: that's a cool who place to train my dog, That's 459 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: a cool place to work, you know, And that's always 460 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: kind of built everything on that culture. 461 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: Knowing your skill set, knowing your expertise, did you have 462 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: a struggle with pricing right? Did you ever think you 463 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: know what obviously two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, 464 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: you think, like, yo, the economy's bad, maybe I shouldn't 465 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: charge it. 466 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: It's like, how did you go about that? 467 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: And the second part to it is what we kind 468 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: of glossed over is that there has to be trusting 469 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: So how did you build trust with clients? Obviously you 470 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: have mentees, but how did you build the trust? And 471 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Cali came not to say people are like, all right, 472 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: I believe in that this is a good guy. 473 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: What should deal with So. 474 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: The first so so building the trust all came from 475 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: social proof, you know, being able to be transparent online, 476 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: show the testimonials, having those five star y up reviews, 477 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: having the celebrities, you know, being you know, showing the results, 478 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: having these clients right that ultimately is going to be 479 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: it's almost like you know, you're dating somebody, You're going 480 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: out in the day and pool like you know, first 481 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, got a nice smile, but then what else? 482 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: This guy's conversation has an outfit? You know, what's the education? 483 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: Like? 484 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: You know, so it's like you got to have all 485 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: of these things for people to trust and say yes. Right, 486 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: And then the first question was with the pricing as 487 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: far as far as the pricing. 488 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: I live in Silicon Valley, so I pay. 489 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: I positioned myself in a place where I knew that 490 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: the average income was over two hundred K in the household. 491 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: And just like my man him five hundreds say, there's 492 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: a recession proof. You know, this is a game where 493 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: when you when you're fixing rich people's problems, that's a 494 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: liability for them, you know what I mean. So when 495 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: they have a liability, they need to fix it. It's 496 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: not it's not a question of uh if, it's when 497 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: they have to fix it because now they can get 498 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: sued their dog. They're responsible for their dog. They're responsible 499 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: for their dog biting their baby. They're responsible for their 500 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 2: dog getting out and biting the neighbors. And see, my 501 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: story goes all the way back where I had a 502 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: dog that killed a dog. So my story is like, 503 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: if you don't fix this, this can escalate. So how 504 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: long are you gonna wait? Then you got a lot 505 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: of people, you know, rescuing dogs, and they're pulling dogs 506 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: out the shelter where you don't know what kind of 507 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: pass that dog has had right, what that dog has 508 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: been allowed to get away with so it really comes 509 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: down to like people have a super need. 510 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: In Silicon Valley, it was like the perfect storm. 511 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: You know, you got technology, you had high income, you 512 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: had me and being from open California, being a hustler, 513 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: I was always like one of them type of dudes. 514 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: I jump out my mini van and go talk to 515 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: that client right. 516 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: There, like I'm not gonna sit there wait for you 517 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: to come on the internet or find me to hear. 518 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go talk to you right there. 519 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: And then also having your demo dog, your demo dog, 520 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 2: that's your business. Go when you have your dog, your 521 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: personal dog is trained up walking around with a dog 522 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: what everywhere? 523 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: Everywhere? With my so, I had a German shepherd at 524 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: the time. 525 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: And see the reason why I didn't come in with 526 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: the pit because I felt like the pit might be 527 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: a little bit see the whole combination that might get threatened. 528 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: But when I hit them with that German command and 529 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm spending German to that German shepherd or. 530 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 5: They gonna say, yeah, German language, absolutely you speak German? 531 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. I know ten commands would think. 532 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: I spoke German. 533 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: But the what's the commands? 534 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: Oh man? 535 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: Everything from uh, she got sits plots blabe revere get 536 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: bloud uh uh you know, varaos. These are all things said 537 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: down come he'll you know, uh, bark search, you know. 538 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: These are all the things that I learned training these 539 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: high and these high, these these protection dogs. 540 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: But why why German? 541 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: Though? 542 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: So German is because a lot of these dogs that 543 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: we get come from Europe, you know, the European blood lines, 544 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: the true working dogs. They used to hearing that, well, 545 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: they used to hearing that. And then another thing is, 546 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: you know, if I don't want you to be able 547 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: to talk to my dog, so you know, I might 548 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: speak my dog in Swahili, I might speak to him 549 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: in Arabic, I might speak to him in Mandarin, because 550 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: now you have no control of my dog. So that's 551 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: one thing. Plus the fact that that that's their lineage. 552 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: You know, they come from Europe. 553 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: So how did you like the marketing? It's just all 554 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: like word of mouth or was it like one client 555 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: that kind of like changed things for you when you 556 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 5: got him and he started to put you in different position. 557 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: Well, my man told me one time. He says a 558 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth 559 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: a million. You know shout out my boy Master Bong 560 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: another early pioneer in the podcasts are in the I 561 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: think the podcasts. 562 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: And different from YouTube. 563 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: And when I knew that, I said, I just got 564 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: to keep making content, you know, and people are going 565 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: to see the content, go see it on YouTube, They're 566 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: gonna see the shorts on Instagram. And I think just 567 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, the Yelp reviews. You know, people come from 568 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: all over the place. A lot of times people don't 569 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: buy from me when they first meet you. There might 570 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: be ten touch points. So my whole goal is to 571 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: just be everywhere to where they're gonna say, Okay, checks 572 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: this box, checks this box, check this box, checks this box. 573 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: And when the Netflix come out, that was like the super. 574 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: Box we're gonna get there. 575 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this sounds like a real Bay Area story, right 576 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: come mom, man got one like if you got the girl, 577 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: you got the pretty girl that's. 578 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: Going to track more girl. You're walking around with the dog. 579 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty spectacular, right, You're walking around the dog showing 580 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: con man more people are attracting to you. Who is that 581 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: that person or client that changed everything for you? 582 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: Right? 583 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: Like you know you're starting out in the dog parks 584 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: and you walking around, But who's that person that was like, oh, 585 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: they they're my client. 586 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 4: Now we out there. 587 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it was Steph Curry. I would 588 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: say with Steph Curry and shout out. You know, I 589 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: always give pay homage to my barrier boys, like Nepht 590 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: to Pharaoh man. You know, you know, I was he 591 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: was my client. Took care of all the rappers first. 592 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: I took care of the street dudes first. And then 593 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: what happened is, you know, hip hop and entertainment and 594 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: in sports, it all kind of like we all hang 595 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: out in the same spot. So I remember being at 596 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: this this after party with net one time, you know, 597 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: and you know, shout out Valo. 598 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: Nef was like, come on, Josh, come hang out with 599 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: us this, you know, tonight. 600 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: So, you know, you build this relationship with your clients 601 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: as you start working with them spending time. So we 602 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: went out to the city San Francisco, and it was 603 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: after party, after you know, after the club or whatever, 604 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: and we went to this back room and all the 605 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: ball players were there and I'm in there with Nef 606 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: right now. I had already met Drake, but he wasn't 607 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: my client. I met him matter at a video shoot 608 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: that I had brought a dog to right, So I 609 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: had met Chubbs right and I had met Chu Drake 610 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: back in the day, like back when Yolo the Model 611 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: Modo song came out, Model Song. So, but when I 612 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: was in there, Stephan I used to was just in 613 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: there chilling, and I'm like, ship, I'm gonna go get 614 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: this opportunity. I'm gonna go walk up introduce myself, you know. 615 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: So I walked up, Hey, how you doing stuff? You know, 616 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: I'm Josh Kellie can Bury, a dog trainer. And that 617 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: was that, right. I didn't hear back from him from 618 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: a year till a year later, you know. And then once, once, 619 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: once Steph hit me. Then it's like, who don't love 620 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: Steph Curry? Know, his assistant hit me, and she she 621 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: set scheduled the you know evaluation. Actually they was already sold. 622 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: We got these dogs, we want you to train him. 623 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: That I pulled up got Steph Wright. Steph was like involved, bro, 624 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: he was like training, you know, bounce. We did all 625 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: the drills where he's got the dog in a down, 626 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: we swinging golf clubs, bouncing basketballs around like I would say, 627 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 2: because he got he got in there and he got 628 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: his his his his hands dirty, wrote him to sleeves 629 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, I think Steph was like that was 630 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: like that, Okay, he got step Because once I got stepped, 631 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: then I started getting cost from other people. You know, 632 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: they always you should you should come meet us, see 633 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: this and that, and then it turned into you know, 634 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Kevin hard and it turned into I mean, Michael B. Jordans. 635 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: I mean so many, you know, so many people over 636 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: the years. I mean I've been doing sixteen years, so 637 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: now I mean everybody, Collie Jenner, I mean, it's really expanded. 638 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: But you know, celebrities for me are like extra social proof. 639 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 2: It's not like the end all be all. That's not 640 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: the goal, you know, and a lot of times they 641 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: require more than your average client. And if I'm trying 642 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: to scale, I can't just be focused on celebrities, you 643 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 644 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: But the celebrity, I say, Steph would be that one. 645 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 5: So like working with a celebrity using the Steph Curry 646 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: how is that Because a lot of people kind of ruin. 647 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 3: Relationships because it's a delicate line. 648 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: You're working with a celebrity and you want to use 649 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 5: that as a form of validation. But then some people 650 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: might ruin a relationship by posting something that they might 651 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: not have wanted you to post, or they might not 652 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 5: have you might not have had a conversation about is 653 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: it okay hey if I'm filming, or is it okay 654 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 5: if I take a picture? They like, I got my 655 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 5: home in the background, So talk about that. 656 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: So you know, for me, man, I never try to 657 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: like push myself on any of my clients ever. You know, 658 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: I rarely ask favors of them anything past just whatever 659 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: our businesses. But I think there's times where, you know, 660 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: like he did a video with me where you know, 661 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: I hooked him up with a sweater, some merch, and 662 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: then I'm like, yo, Steph, you mind doing a little 663 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: shout out. 664 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 4: Come on. 665 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: It's right there in front of my van klie K 666 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: nin rat van dog right there. 667 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: You know. 668 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: It's just like one of them situations where you know, 669 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: if they rock with you, you know, they tell you 670 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: a bone, they'll do something and they know. I mean, 671 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: Vernon Davis had this conversation a long time ago. He submit, 672 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: I know that you're gonna use my name to say here, 673 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: it's already up on game. But I mean, people are 674 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 2: people are mesmerized when any of your favorite home your 675 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: favorite sports team is the Niners at his time, like 676 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: Vernon w No, nobody was bigger than Vernon. Are the Warriors, Like, 677 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: nobody's bigger than Steph. So it really does give you 678 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: an nice little boost, a lot of trust. You know, 679 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: a lot of people call me man, Steph trusts you. 680 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: I'll gonna trust you, you know what I mean. It's one 681 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: of those things. So that was definitely cool. But for me, 682 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm always trying to be respectful, you know. It's like 683 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 2: always about respecting boundaries, you know what I mean. Some 684 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: people they get too caught up with the celebrities and 685 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: they feeling like that's their one chance. I'm always just 686 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: like cool, Like if it's cool, it's cool. But I'm 687 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: not gonna be too invasive, you know. And I think 688 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: that's the key. And sometimes you know that you might 689 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: film something they say, oh that was there, you just 690 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: quick to take it off and you'll apologize, you know, 691 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't what we try and intended to do. But yeah, man, 692 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 2: it's a delicate situation. Usually like a picture, in a 693 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: situation they're not showing their house or showing too much 694 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: of their stuff is usually you know, the most I'll 695 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: ask and if they want to do more, then it's 696 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: all good. 697 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: How does it work when you have clients, specifically celebrity 698 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: clients to have more than one dog? 699 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: Like, how does that work? 700 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: Is it your visit is just for one specific dog 701 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: or is it. 702 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: For the household? Right? 703 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: Because sometimes we got two or three dogs. Some people 704 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: got more than that. How do you handle those situations? 705 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: Well, every dog needs to be trained its own way, 706 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: based on his temperament. 707 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: And then you have to make sure you get the 708 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: whole family involved, right. 709 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: So by having the family involved, you're not going to 710 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: have a dog that's getting over on somebody and then 711 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: one person's being the pack leader, right, So you gotta 712 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: make sure everybody's involved. And then when you have multiple dogs, 713 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: you got to train them separately. That means you got 714 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: to get paid twice, that's all. 715 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 5: That means. Got a mean Brandon shot? When is the 716 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 5: Netflix thing coming to play? 717 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: So the Brandon Okay? 718 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: So so what ended up happening? And when I had 719 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: clients down in La I ended up training Rico Love's dog, right, 720 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: and then Rico ended up sending me Andre Berto, who's 721 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: one of my best friends now, you know. So we 722 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: built a real good relationship and I would go down there. 723 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: I sold because Andre Berto's house got broken into, so 724 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: I ended up selling him my personal dog, right, and 725 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: then we became friends. I'd go to LA and I 726 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: serviced the dog and I'd go down there hang out 727 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: with Berto and and then one day, man, I ended 728 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: up there in a shout out Tiff, the pretty artist. 729 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: She was there and she was like, Yo, what you 730 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: do is amazing. You know, I have to introduce you 731 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: to my my fiance. He's a uh you know, he's 732 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: a he's a. 733 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: He works a production. So, you know, we set up 734 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: the appointment. 735 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: I took the demo, Dog took Berto, you know, we 736 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: took the you know, jumped in the race and went 737 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: to the studio and I went to the you know, 738 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 2: the boardroom and had a meeting. And they liked it, man, 739 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 2: and they wanted to sign me. Right, so uh that 740 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: kind of turned in. That's how it kind of happened. 741 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: I guess Netflix, you know, are the They just liked 742 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: the fact, like I was good on cameras. I had 743 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: already practiced right with my all this all this content 744 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: I've been making, right, and then and then again, I 745 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: just had the names, the celebrities, you know, people people 746 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: you know, they gravitate towards that. So they they liked that. 747 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: They saw the success that I had, the brand that 748 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: I was establishing, all the stuff it has, So it 749 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: kind of turned into that. I mean I didn't even know, 750 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: like I didn't even like when I signed the production deal, 751 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was gonna be Netflix peven when 752 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: they said, Yo, You're about to be big, you on Netflix. 753 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: Even when they told me it was Netflix, I'm my word, Okay, 754 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: Like it didn't hit me until like, oh, like Netflix 755 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: is real, like like literally when that show came out, 756 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: like I went to dinner like that second night I 757 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: was there were like, yo, you that guy. So again 758 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: your Netflix Netflix was a big one. 759 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 760 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Prior to me and you, the only time I heard 761 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: of dog training was the dog Whisperer, right, shout out Caesar. Yeah, 762 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: so Caesar you have you watched him or have you 763 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: guys been in contact with each other? Was he a 764 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: mentor in any way to you? Did he give you 765 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: advice on how to get into this business? Because he 766 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: was I forget what network he was on, But every 767 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: time it was on. I was like, you watch it 768 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: because you're like, how's he doing that? 769 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: Right? 770 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: And now it's like, I feel like you've taken over 771 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: that space completely. How has there been like crossing paths 772 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: at any point? 773 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, for me, Man, I'm not one of those 774 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: dudes who like, don't acknowledge it, don't pay homage to 775 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: the people who kind of like lay the groundwork, even 776 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: if we don't see exactly eye the eye and our 777 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: methodology shot out. Caesar Man, he made it. He made 778 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: people aware that this was a real thing. So yeah, 779 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm cool with Caesar. We always back and forth. You know, 780 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: I might pull up to his ranch. We chit chat 781 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: a little bit on Instagram. You know, it's all respect, 782 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, I mean Caesar's a you know, 783 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: a dog man, fellow dog man. That's the thing about 784 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: like I grew up a dog man, Like I always 785 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: had dogs growing up as a kid. And when you're 786 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: like a real dog man, like you really know dogs, 787 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: not like something you read in a book and then 788 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: eventually do when you're like twenty five, I mean, when 789 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: you really raise around dogs, you really know dogs. So 790 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: it's like for all the guys who are like that, 791 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: it's like a mutual respect. 792 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: You already know, like if you know, you know, you know. 793 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 5: So so look back to this Netflix situation. So can 794 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: you just break this down, like how does this actually work? 795 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: Right? 796 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: You come because they doing the show around you, right, So, okay, 797 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 5: you signed a production deal and then they put together 798 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 5: the whole idea of like Okay. 799 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: This is what we're gonna do. We're gonna film you here, 800 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna film you here, Like how does that actually work? 801 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 5: And then, like you said, from when it goes to Netflix, 802 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: because there's millions of pieces of content on Netflix, right, 803 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 5: how like do they market it for you? Are you 804 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 5: responsible for the promotion? Like how does that whole process work? 805 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: So Netflix went hard for me, man, I can't even lie, 806 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: like you know they put me so basically, we had 807 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: a concept. You shoot a sizzle real, right, so you 808 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: show like a proof of concept and then and then 809 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: the production company shops that around and then. 810 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 5: So you met with the production company first first yeah okay, 811 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 5: and then and then they said, look, we just got 812 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 5: this idea and then they just pitched it to Netflix exactly. 813 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: Netflix agreed to pick it up exactly exactly. 814 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 2: So it was crazy because Michael B had already hit 815 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: me and we were talking and just talking like, oh man, 816 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: we might do something. Man, you know right before like 817 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, before he had the big Amazon deal and 818 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: Michael B was we were talking about it, but we 819 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 2: didn't never like make it formal. So when you sign up, 820 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: I was already in this deal. Then six months into 821 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: my deal, into my production contract, Mike hit me like, yo, 822 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: you're ready. 823 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: I'm like you mean about that? 824 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm locked in. But it ended up working out 825 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: man shout out the brother. But he we ended up 826 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: uh you know, like Netflix picked it up. They liked it, 827 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: and then from there it was like this is gonna 828 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: be you know, just they're gonna They brought in a 829 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: director and the director was dope at least duran because 830 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: she was like, I don't want to make it some 831 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 2: corny reality shit. She want to make it a docuseries. 832 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm following you. I really wanted to like show it 833 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: not not some you know where they do all of 834 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: the dramatic interviews and you know it's like they just 835 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: she just wanted to catch it just like like me 836 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: doing my thing. And that's why I loved about it 837 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: because I was able to keep it authentic, super organic. 838 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: They didn't try to push anything on me crazy. 839 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: They just said do what you do. 840 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: And then what we did is we actually casted people 841 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: just like locally and then we kind of like cast 842 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: it out a little bit more. But we were able 843 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: to get a lot of people with problem dog problems. 844 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: Are probably seventy five percent of dog households have dog 845 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: problems and they just living with them. So it's not 846 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: hard to find people who got problems, you know. And 847 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: then a lot of people, you know, can't afford little 848 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: quality training. So a lot of people that we brought 849 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: onto the cast were really grateful and we were able 850 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: to make a bigger impact and together some good episodes. 851 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: So you're the guy with the skill, right, you got 852 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: the talent to do it, you have the clients to 853 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: do it. Are you also the person that's doing all 854 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: the business as well, because a lot of times when 855 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: we go into entrepreneurship, we really don't know business. We 856 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: kind of get forcing it. Yeah we're making money, but 857 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: we don't understand business. We don't understand you know, profit 858 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: margins and you know p and ls. It's not something 859 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: that we're thinking, is that something that you had to 860 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: learn or did you have partners along with you to 861 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: help guide you in that in that space and what 862 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: it mistakes me to. 863 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: Be honest, Man, I'm a you know, one hundred percent 864 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: owner operator of Cali Canin and I just was, I 865 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 2: just was. I was treating it like girl was trapping bro. 866 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: I just I was just stuff for that money in 867 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: the safe as long as of money was stacking in 868 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: the safe. If we didn't stack in the safe, then 869 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: I'm put into the demount in safety deposit box. 870 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: It isn't stacking the safe. 871 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: Deposit box no more so then I'm like having to 872 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: buy multiple So for me, it wasn't. It was just 873 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: about hustle and stacked hustle and stacked hustle and stack. 874 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: And then I invested in like agility equipment and things 875 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: that would like help the brand out. 876 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: I really at the time, I really was are really 877 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: running ads. 878 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: Eventually I started learning about you know a lot more 879 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: like building landing pages, you know, and and you know 880 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: how to you know better conversions, and you know, just 881 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: all of the sales funnels process. I mean that was 882 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: really like learning sales funnels. Like the last four years 883 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: of my of my year of my career, and it's 884 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: been pretty much that's been the thing that's been allowing 885 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: me to scale because now I know how to like 886 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: acquire customers, spend money on ads, get row ass, you know, 887 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: build products, virtally integrate. So a lot of this was 888 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 2: just man just school of the hard knocks Brough. I mean, 889 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: my mom she sold skincare products in Oakland since eighty five, 890 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We started out the back 891 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: of the trump you know, and she built her reputation 892 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: in Oakland, you know, selling skincare products. So she would 893 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: just throw me out there and go say, hey, go 894 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: make this transaction, Go go help this client, Go talk 895 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: to this person. So that was definitely something that gave 896 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: me like a boost of being able to like be 897 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: confident talking. 898 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 4: To people and things like that. 899 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, bro, it's just kind of like learning as 900 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: you go, and especially in like today's age, like a 901 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: lot of these sales funnels on this internet marketing, it's 902 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 2: still new and it's constantly evolving. So there's not anybody 903 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: like most of the guys I hire, I might end 904 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: up knowing more than them just because they don't have 905 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 2: a business that they run. They haven't run into this 906 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: to these situations that they got to get themselves out of. 907 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: So you kind of learn as you go, bro. And 908 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 4: that's been like, it's. 909 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: Been like the balance of becoming you know, it was 910 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: always me being a businessman as well as me being 911 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: the talent. You know, you had to develop yourself as 912 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: a businessman. 913 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking now, like you have a digital product 914 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: for something that you physically have to do, So like 915 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: when you're doing it on Zoom, how does that work? 916 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: Do you like just give commands to the owners of 917 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: like how does this? How does this work from a 918 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: digital standpoint? 919 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: So so tell me this. 920 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: What's the difference between me sitting in a chair and 921 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: instructing you? Are me sitting in a chair from a 922 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: computer instructing you? What's the difference you physically being there? 923 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: But other than that, Yeah, right, I'm there, You're there, 924 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: My eyes are there, Yeah, my comments are there. So 925 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: it the whole digital play was all about scaling, you know, 926 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: be able to help people out, especially when I had 927 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 2: you know, the Netflix came out. Now, I'm not a 928 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 2: local trainer, I'm an international trainer. So first things first, 929 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: when the show came out, I had to put together 930 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: a course. You see what I mean. I gotta get 931 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: it so I have something to sell all these people 932 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: who are far away. So that was pretty much the 933 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: thing with the digital and I think digital training is 934 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: really no different because you could literally train your dog 935 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: from your own living room and you introduce the distraction 936 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: slow and then the distractions get bigger. Eventually, go outside, 937 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: you introduce the distraction. But this is the same stuff 938 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: I teach people to do when they're in person, So 939 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: it's really not a big difference. You know, you're able 940 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 2: to replicate yourself exactly exactly. 941 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 3: So you said something on fame doesn't pay funnels? 942 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: Do? 943 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 5: You talked about the funnels, but elaborate on the funnels 944 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 5: and you know the systems that you put in place. 945 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know a lot of people get the opportunity 946 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: to be on TV right, and they might do appearances, 947 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: might get to you know why they're popular, you know. 948 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: But what I did was I took all of that 949 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: traffic right and I said, Okay, how do we make 950 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: customers out of these people? Again? I had the different 951 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: different stages that people can buy it. You know, you 952 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: got these mini courses you have, you know, the whole 953 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: the whole, you know, the full course. You have the 954 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: course with all of the we call it in the 955 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: babies and zoom zooms and wham wam zoom zooms and 956 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 2: wham whams, all the details and all the things that 957 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: you know, we have the extra you know, coaching or 958 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: the extra you know, a full year of being able 959 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: to come in to person. So it really is about 960 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 2: taking your customer through a journey figuring out Like I mean, first, 961 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: most of my clients, they have a decent amount of money, 962 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 2: right because they have to have disposable income to fix 963 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: a dog. So you know, my my process I had 964 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: to learn like it's all about the evaluation. I get 965 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: them in on evaluation, I talk about their problems, I 966 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 2: qualify them, they qualify me, and it's all about the upsell. 967 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 4: So for me, it's it's just about taking them. 968 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 2: Through to get that that that lifetime value up you know, 969 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: the how much they're going to spend with you over 970 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: a lifetime you know. And really, like I said, when 971 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: you when you sell them, you got to make sure 972 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 2: that you're getting more than what it talked took to 973 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: get them to buy them. 974 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 4: Right. 975 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: So like in today's world, when I'm running ads. For example, 976 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: my customer acquisition might be three hundred dollars. I might 977 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: spend three hundred dollars to get that client that's going 978 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 2: to spend two thousand, right, But I had to learn 979 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 2: that before, you know, you just be passing out flyers 980 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: hoping you get customers. Well, now you're in this digital 981 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 2: age where we're making content, and you got the organic 982 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 2: you got to pay content and your whole goal is 983 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 2: to get people to get in front of the right people, right, 984 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 2: and Instagram and Facebook they want to get you in 985 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: front of the right people so they can you could 986 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: continue to pay them. So really it was just all 987 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: about starting to learn all this digital stuff man, and 988 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: you know, really really really becoming an understanding of what 989 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: to do with that, with that traffic, you know, and 990 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: being able to turn them into leads. And not all 991 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: these not everybody who's following on Instagram is going to 992 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: be a customer. But if you go through one hundred 993 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: of them or two hundred of them, you might get one. 994 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 4: So it's like digging through the weeds, you know. Yeah, 995 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 4: what does scaling look like? You talked about scaling obviously 996 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 4: replicating yourself. You said, this is a digital product. 997 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: Is there more products that are coming or that are 998 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: on board now in terms of maybe some of the 999 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: equipment that you're using, is it some of the food 1000 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: that they may be using to train dogs? Like, how 1001 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: do you scale going from where you were in two 1002 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: thousand and nine to present day? 1003 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: So you know, I've already made it to where I've had, 1004 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of trainers. You know, I've had 1005 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: big facilities, keeping forty dogs in a facility at one time. 1006 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: But again, you're maxed out at forty dogs, right, and 1007 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 2: then for most people that say, oh, forty dogs at 1008 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: five K, that's some good cheese, you know, but you 1009 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: got a lot of problems. You got a lot of 1010 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: liability that comes with that, and then you're just capped 1011 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: out right. And then you know, when you have people's 1012 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 2: dogs overnight, Yes, it's like having people's children. 1013 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 4: So just the stress of that was like, all right, 1014 00:41:59,160 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 4: let me figure out how to do. 1015 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 2: So then I switched it up and I started going 1016 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 2: to in person but doing semi private, so multiple people 1017 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: coming in, so basically pure group class training, but just 1018 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 2: smaller groups. 1019 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: All right, So I when people when you're training the dog, 1020 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 4: they come to you, so they come. 1021 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they either come to us or we have 1022 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: a VIP where we go to them, or we would 1023 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: take their dogs and have them dropping off and come 1024 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: to us. But I wanted to get rid of that. 1025 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: So as of this year, we're getting rid of the 1026 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: board and training, and what I'm doing is now pushing 1027 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: more digital. So the digital programs are the ones the 1028 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 2: courses and with the support not just a course, but 1029 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 2: like actual coaching where they you know, you're getting checked on, 1030 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: you making sure you're doing your drills. And that allows 1031 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 2: me to just not only work on California or where 1032 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm in Miami. 1033 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 4: But you know international. 1034 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 2: And then we also have you know, products, so we'll 1035 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: sell them a training kit or we'll get We'll just 1036 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: launched Turbo Treats, which is my new dog treats line, 1037 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 2: and it's you know, a single ingredient, super high quality, 1038 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 2: human grade thing that a lot of my clients, the 1039 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: kind of clients I have, would like, and you know, 1040 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 2: just basically giving them a nice little package and then 1041 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: being able to give them all their online instruction plus 1042 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 2: all their tools. 1043 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 4: And you know, get them going. 1044 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 2: And I figure, you know, I can only hold forty dogs, 1045 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: whereas I can do four hundred digital clients. 1046 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 5: So I was talking about the multiple strings of income. 1047 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 5: You talked about the products a little bit, but explain 1048 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 5: your whole tree when it comes to like the different products, 1049 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 5: offerings and multiple strings of income. 1050 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 2: So people come in, the first one would be the evaluation. 1051 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: From the evaluation, they assend to a training package, so 1052 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: that might be maybe one thousand dollars or a fifteen 1053 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: hundred dollars service package, or maybe five thousand dollars six 1054 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 2: thousand dollars training board and train And then if they 1055 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: want to continue on, then they could keep coming for 1056 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 2: like a monthly recurring class. They want to stay part 1057 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 2: of the community. The next level would be to say, okay, 1058 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: well I actually really like this. I want to become 1059 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 2: a dog trainer, right, So I coach dog trainers who 1060 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,479 Speaker 2: want to learn how to be monetized and make better 1061 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 2: use of their time, so they can come into a 1062 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 2: mentorship program. 1063 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 4: And then I have a mentorship pro. 1064 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: That's a five thousand dollars offer that then it sends 1065 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 2: up to a twenty thousand dollars where it'smight more one 1066 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: on one with me. 1067 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 4: Really hands on holding their hand. 1068 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: Right and then right now, we're really preparing for something 1069 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: that's going to be Like I can license them to 1070 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 2: be a Calie Canine facilitator, then I can run ads 1071 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 2: to that city, and then we can partner up and 1072 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: make money together. Right, And none of this requires like 1073 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 2: a facility necessarily, Like the way I got a structure now, 1074 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 2: it's very profit heavy because you don't need to have 1075 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: a big, old facility. You just need to run the 1076 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: structure exactly how I run it. And if we can 1077 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: buy the customers and take them to that city, then 1078 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 2: that's Calie Canine. 1079 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 4: Wherever we are worldwide. 1080 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: When you look at it, it sounds like you've done 1081 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: a lot of analytics on it. LA obviously a lot 1082 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: of dogs. LA Miami for sure a lot of dogs. 1083 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: But New York a lot of dogs. Have you ever 1084 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: thought about coming north or on the Northeast, because I 1085 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: feel like everybody, if you know somebody that has at 1086 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: least a dog one hundred percent. 1087 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 4: So I'm actually born in New York, right, And my. 1088 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: Father lives in the Bronx and my brother, Twale, he 1089 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 2: was living in LA at the time. Well he was 1090 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 2: working as a waiter, you know, doing waiting tables, and 1091 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 2: he wanted to get into music, and then I said, nah, bro, like, 1092 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 2: let me let me show you this new dog thing 1093 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: were doing. So he comes up to the bay. He 1094 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 2: was my first mentee, right, so we're rocking. Uh, he's 1095 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: working with me to that was another she's training sessions 1096 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 2: and I'm putting my brother on, you know, I'm keeping 1097 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 2: it in the family. And then our older brother, Quasi, 1098 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 2: ends up getting a motorcycle accident on a Jersey turnpike 1099 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 2: and almost kills itself. Right, So then at that time 1100 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: it was almost best for Twale to come back out 1101 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 2: here to help him. And I was like, bro, like, 1102 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 2: let's set your brand up in New York. 1103 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 4: So we are. 1104 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: He has metro dog training here in Brooklyn and Willisburg, 1105 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 2: and then I also have nyk knin training up in Middletown. 1106 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 2: So I have some of my mentees who are actually 1107 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: out here. So it just allows me to expel like that, 1108 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 2: but not having to be like so hands on with them. 1109 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 4: Like I got to deal with bosses who can. 1110 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: Handle their own business, franchise, well franchise not even for them. 1111 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: I just meant mentored them so they could set up 1112 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 2: their program. But like the next level would be for 1113 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: them to be a licensed Cali canine facility, you know, 1114 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: so that that's how we could take it to the 1115 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: next level. 1116 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 3: What about real estate? How'd you get into real estate? 1117 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 2: Oh? When you know, it was funny man, because one 1118 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 2: of my partners, he was I had opened up another 1119 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: facility in the bay and he was helping me clean 1120 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 2: up my house when I was getting rid of it, 1121 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: and he ran into a bank statement. I had like 1122 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 2: five hundred bands in the account. He was like, he 1123 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 2: was a real estate he's a real estate guy, and 1124 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: he's like, bro, you got to buy some property, you know, 1125 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: like you got to do something with this cash. And 1126 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 2: at the time, I'm just like, you know, I'm missed 1127 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 2: a stack it all, you know. So he basically, you know, 1128 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: did renovations and all that. So I started buying homes 1129 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: and started renovating homes. You know, had to learn. I've 1130 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 2: been doing that ten years, you know. I had my 1131 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 2: bumps in the road in that and learning that. But 1132 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 2: that evolved into now me becoming a real estate they 1133 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 2: developed on the side, you know, and now doing the project. 1134 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: Like I said, where my wife is from, She's from Morocco, Marrakesh, 1135 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 2: and that's the number one tourist destination in Africa. So 1136 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 2: two thousand and three, right after Netflix, I basically paid 1137 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 2: a million dollars cash for a plot of land six acres, 1138 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 2: so we're gonna build fifteen villas on those and you know, 1139 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: continue on with the real estate. 1140 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 4: So it's basically like the dog. 1141 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: Money just goes into the to the real estate. 1142 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 4: You know. It's pretty much like how I've been doing it. 1143 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 2: And like I said, I've been buying and selling some 1144 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 2: homes again bumping my head across along the way, like 1145 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: with everything, you know, even with this digital marketing man. 1146 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: You spend money, you lose money, you know, but it's 1147 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: like you know, you're not a boss R can't take 1148 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: a loss, you know. So it's been a hell of 1149 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: experience on both sides. But yeah, the real estate, it's 1150 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 2: altimately like one of those the wealth that's more of 1151 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: the wealth play, you know, being able to hold your 1152 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: assets and be able to rent them out and get 1153 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: you know. 1154 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 4: Passive cash flow and appreciation from those. 1155 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: To talk about opportunities, I think as we were speaking 1156 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: while we're out in Dubai, every time I suppose to 1157 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: you always thinking of opportunities. How do you look at 1158 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: the landscape, especially from an international standpoint, we would end 1159 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: up with Domie like I could see something happening here 1160 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: doing the analytics. How do you go about looking at 1161 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: future opportunities for yourself in a business own? 1162 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I just think that, you know, there's 1163 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 2: a lot of places that aren't developed, you know, Africa 1164 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: being one of them, you know, And I just think that, 1165 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 2: you know, they all go through this this this development 1166 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: phase where you know, it's like you could be late 1167 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 2: or you could be early. I mean, we saw Dubai. 1168 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 2: Everybody out there is talking about what you could have 1169 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: had if you would have did that, you know, ten 1170 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 2: years ago invested in Dubai, Whereas I look at, you know, 1171 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 2: the same type of opportunities. So I'm really try into 1172 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: the whole growth and development and really you know, being 1173 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: part of the the upswing versus the downturn. You know. 1174 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, I'm just all about like just trying 1175 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 2: to get financially more literate so I can make better moves. 1176 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 4: You know, knowing what to do with my money. 1177 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean, for a long time for I think a 1178 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: lot of small business guys they don't know how to 1179 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: take that money that they're making and grow their business 1180 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 2: or even a lot of stuff that when it comes 1181 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 2: to acquiring new clients and being able to do sales 1182 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 2: funnels and tracking KPIs and building out teams to be 1183 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: able to really scale, Like it's like a whole skill set. 1184 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: I feel like you're not going to really learn unless 1185 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 2: you really do it. 1186 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 5: You know, to talk about ads, like how effective has 1187 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 5: ads been for you, like on the social side, and 1188 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 5: what advice would you give for a business owner that's 1189 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 5: looking to start running ads for their business. 1190 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 2: So with ads, man, it really comes down to testing. 1191 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: You know, you don't know what your people like about you, 1192 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: so all you got to do is put out a 1193 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 2: lot of content and once you kind of get an 1194 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 2: idea on what they know about you, then you just 1195 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 2: got to like double down on that type of content, 1196 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: you know. And with ads, I think there's you know, 1197 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: the organic and then there's the paid. I mean, of course, 1198 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: you don't want to be while you're interrupting people scrolling 1199 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 2: while they're on the Internet. You don't want to be 1200 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 2: too selsy, you know. So I think it's really about 1201 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 2: being able to get your message off and sell to 1202 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: them in directly, you know, speak to their problems, speak 1203 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: to their situation the way with ads. Generally, I shoot 1204 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 2: ads where I'll make certain creatives that are really talking 1205 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: to my avatar a lot more direct because I know 1206 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: that Instagram is gonna make them watch that, whereas the 1207 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,439 Speaker 2: people who are just scrolling, I want them to watch 1208 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 2: me well just kind of you know, uh, they don't 1209 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 2: want to see just being overly soul. But what I 1210 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 2: think about ads is you have to shoot creatives to 1211 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 2: hook the client, and then after that, your organic content 1212 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 2: is what really makes them fall in love with you, 1213 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: right so, and then another thing is you can't be cheap, 1214 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 2: like you have to spend like you know, It's like 1215 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 2: I look at almost like being in in like the streets, 1216 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 2: like you have to spend, you know what I mean, 1217 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: you got buy your own. If you want to go big, 1218 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 2: you gotta buy. You can't just buy an eighth you 1219 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 2: gotta buy the old pound, you know. And it's the 1220 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 2: whole thing is like as you become more sophisticated with 1221 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 2: your ads, you know, you start to get more confidence 1222 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 2: that you start gambling on yourself, Like I'm musa spend 1223 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 2: one hundred today, I'm gonna spend two hundred today. You know, 1224 00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: right now, I spend like a thousand a day, But 1225 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 2: I got homeboys who got brands, they spend one hundred 1226 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 2: thousand a day. 1227 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 4: You know. 1228 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 2: So it's just you realize, like with their return on 1229 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 2: ad spend that you're getting. And it really comes down 1230 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 2: to just you know, having a lot of creatives working 1231 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 2: making content like crazy, getting really good on camera, getting 1232 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 2: lots of you know, social proof so that when the 1233 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: ad hits, you know, they're like, damn, okay, let me 1234 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 2: call them. 1235 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 4: This is big business. I think we underestimated. 1236 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: But a lot of people have pets, and taking care 1237 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: of pets is a extremely lucrative business. 1238 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 4: Is this a legacy situation for you? 1239 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 3: Right? 1240 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: Like you've got CALLI K nine, You've got kids, obviously, 1241 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,240 Speaker 1: you got your wife involved in it. Is this something 1242 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: that you see yourself continuing doing on eventually to a 1243 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 1: point where it's like, hey, we might want to sell 1244 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: this off or keep this inside the family. 1245 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 4: How are you viewing the future of the brand? 1246 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: You know, the next move is really like I'm launching 1247 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 2: the app, right And I always had an app on 1248 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 2: a small level, but I didn't really like leverage it. 1249 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 2: You know, I was on a yacht in Miami with 1250 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 2: the guy who's the fit and he's got six thousand 1251 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 2: subscribers paying him thirty dollars a month. 1252 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 4: You know what he said, This is not six thousands. 1253 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: He says he got sixty thousand right people on paying 1254 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 2: him thirty dollars a month. 1255 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 3: You know. 1256 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 2: So the goal is to just build, Like I want 1257 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 2: to get more into the technology space, you know, the 1258 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: educational space I think is something that everybody needs. So 1259 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 2: as far as the Cali K nine brand, I don't know, man, 1260 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 2: Like I'm building turbo treats to blow that up and 1261 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 2: maybe get that acquired, But I don't know what I'm 1262 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: gonna do it. 1263 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 5: You know. 1264 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes like I kind of want to 1265 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 2: leave something for the kids so they can they have 1266 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 2: something to you know. Know, it's for sure, you know, 1267 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 2: it's a unique brand, and I think there's nothing better 1268 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: than building a brand. I think that, you know, you 1269 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 2: get the best return on your investment when you have 1270 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 2: actually a brand built versus just being another random dog trainer. 1271 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,959 Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, it's really what they want 1272 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 2: to do, you know. But you know there's there's hey, 1273 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,439 Speaker 2: somebody make the right offer, man, you know how you know. 1274 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 5: Show what's a few things that any dog owner can 1275 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 5: do to you know, have their dog more compliant, And 1276 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 5: what's some of the biggest mistakes that you see from 1277 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 5: dog owners that they make with their dogs. 1278 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 2: I think humanizing dogs humanizing dogs. You say, if you 1279 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 2: treat a dog like a human, they'll treat you like 1280 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 2: a dog. Right, So when you overly humanize a dog. 1281 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: For dominant dogs, that becomes like an indicator that they 1282 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 2: could kind of like push you around and get away 1283 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 2: with stuff. And then they'll they'll push boundaries a lot 1284 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: more for a nervous dog. A lot of times that 1285 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 2: attribute to them. You know, you not be half set 1286 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,479 Speaker 2: in any boundaries and structure, and you being to lax 1287 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 2: and overly humanize them will make them not trust you. 1288 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 2: So I think like really set in structure, just like children, 1289 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, you got to give them structure. Is that 1290 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 2: is a loved kid when they really have that structure 1291 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 2: versus a kid, it just gets to do whatever, you know. 1292 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 4: What I mean, they're gonna bump their heads. 1293 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 2: So the key is is like fifteen minutes a drink, 1294 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 2: we say fifteen minutes a day. 1295 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 4: He's a bad behavior. 1296 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 2: Way you give we have these these these repetitions that 1297 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 2: you do, you hold your dog accountable fright from your 1298 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: own house, and it'll just make living with your dogs 1299 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 2: so much easier by giving your. 1300 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 4: Dog some structure. 1301 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: And we focus on five pillars obedience, socialization, agility, behavior management, 1302 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 2: and problem solving. And before we fix a problem, we 1303 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: have to fix all these other things right. And this 1304 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 2: is what gives your dog the confidence and the respect 1305 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: and the boundaries that they need to have. So it's 1306 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 2: really giving your dog like some real structure, you know. 1307 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 2: And you know, I think that that's that's gonna give you. 1308 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 2: That's gonna make your life easier. It's gonna take the 1309 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 2: liability out of owning the dog. And then I think 1310 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people they tend to they undermotivate their dog. 1311 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 2: They do their old sit yours down, you know what 1312 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: I mean. It's like I think about it like if 1313 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 2: you're your view, if if the if the kid, for example, 1314 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 2: is excited about doing something, they're gonna want to do it. 1315 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,319 Speaker 2: And I think that that's what you gotta do. You 1316 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 2: gotta make your dog want to do it. And this 1317 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 2: is why turbo trees came out because it's like I 1318 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 2: got to have the best product to. 1319 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 4: Make these dogs want to train reinforcement. 1320 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 2: That's to reinforce the positive re force with dogs, either 1321 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 2: like praise, food or toys. Right, So we sell them 1322 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 2: to pray, and we sell them the food and the 1323 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 2: toys and teach them how to praise. But you got 1324 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 2: to learn how to motivate your dog and really make 1325 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 2: sure that they, you know, are engaged, to give them 1326 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 2: something to focus on. Otherwise they're gonna be distracted. It's 1327 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 2: almost like like I look at almost like Dayton, like, 1328 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 2: you got to be attractive to your partner. Otherwise their 1329 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 2: eyes are gonna be going elsewhere. They're gonna get distracted. 1330 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 2: If you're not fun, you're not flying', not smelling good, 1331 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. There's certain things that are 1332 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 2: going to keep them engaged and attracted versus letting the 1333 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 2: compete competition outside, you know what I mean, attract your lady. 1334 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 2: So it's like the same thing, you gotta stay attractive. 1335 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 4: But then also you know, set those boundaries as well. Yeah. 1336 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: I was close, man, We were really close as a 1337 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: family to getting a dog, and I couldn't pull the trigger. 1338 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm wondering now that I think about it in terms 1339 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 1: of protective dogs or like, what are the top five 1340 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: protective dogs from your expertise? 1341 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of tea people, a lot of people 1342 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 2: tend to try to incorporate the Belgium Malawi in their lifestyle. Right, 1343 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 2: that is a great police dog. But again that dog 1344 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 2: out biting people, jumping over fences, going through san so 1345 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 2: for as a day to day dog is probably not 1346 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: the best one. I like rod Wallers, but they're rod Wallers. 1347 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 2: They dominate, the pushy, they're strong, you know, so if 1348 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 2: you don't train them, you know, they have their issues. 1349 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 2: Pit Bulls are great, but they can be dog aggressive 1350 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 2: naturally because that's their origin, right to be pit fighters, right, 1351 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 2: and dog fighters. And you got Schnauzers. I mean, a 1352 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 2: lot of dog breeds are or could be. It just 1353 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 2: depends on the fit for the family. You know, are 1354 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 2: you an athletic type, you run a lot, do you 1355 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 2: take your dog out? Do you have a big yard? 1356 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? All of these factor in 1357 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 2: based on the dog's temperament. So I think it's more 1358 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 2: about pairing the right person up with the right dog. 1359 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 4: I was gonna get a bully, a bully, well bully 1360 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 4: I mean, the bully's only this big, you know what 1361 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it ain't gonna stop nobody from really chilling. Yeah, 1362 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 4: he's chilling. 1363 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 2: If he's chilling, so good. If it's not a protection dog, 1364 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 2: then you know. I mean, honestly, there's a lot of 1365 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 2: good dogs in the shelter man that just they need homes. 1366 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,319 Speaker 2: A good dogs, they just need some structure. But like, 1367 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: if you want a particular dog for protection, my recommend 1368 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 2: to just go buy a fully trained dog that's already 1369 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 2: doubt in and it's not cheap because a lot of 1370 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: people are getting their houses broken into. A lot of 1371 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 2: these ball players they go into games and they come 1372 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,359 Speaker 2: back to their house and go on vacation, they come 1373 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: back to their house totally rant and shambles. You know, 1374 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 2: people need to invest inate security. So I think that 1375 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 2: an easygoing protection dog would probably be like a solid 1376 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 2: German Shepherd to be honest. But then you got a 1377 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 2: hairy dog, right, So it's like, know, dog is perfect, 1378 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 2: it's just all about what you like and then you 1379 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 2: know the training that that you put into the dog. 1380 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 3: Gotcha hope my brother appreciate it. 1381 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 5: Man, How can people reach out to you as far 1382 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 5: as if they want the dog train, Like, what's the website, 1383 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 5: socials all of that. 1384 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 2: So I'm pretty much Calie kan nine all over. I 1385 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 2: got the caliekan nine on Instagram, Calie Kane on YouTube, 1386 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 2: and then I got Knine Intervention on Netflix and uh yeah, man, 1387 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 2: and then Caliekanine dot com to schedule evaluation, to do 1388 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 2: your training digital, or to look into the mentorship program. 1389 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 2: We always always tell dudes, man, I mean I coach 1390 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 2: a lot of guys, man, and you know, it takes 1391 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 2: their life from making five k a month to thirty 1392 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 2: five K a month. It's like people sleep on that, 1393 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 2: like that's a lot of money, especially if you're somewhere, 1394 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 2: you know, down in the South or something like that, 1395 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 2: or you know, he was making this little five K job. 1396 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you're really ready to make some money. 1397 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 2: So the mentorship as well, man, kellikanin. 1398 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 3: Dot com you have it, Ladies and gentlemen. Tap in 1399 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 3: all right, y'all, where my dog's at? All right, Sean, 1400 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 3: I think you're walking to see you next week. 1401 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 4: Please show