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Speaker 1: Quest Love Show is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: I am cousin Jake, producer of The Quest Love Show.

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Speaker 2: Throughout this season, as you've noticed, we've been doing many episodes.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here with Amir Thompson aka Questlove, and you

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Speaker 2: know throughout the year, just drop us a line. Hit

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Speaker 2: us in the dms of the QLs channels. Go to

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Speaker 2: Questlove Supreme dot com. There's a contact us page, but

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Speaker 2: ask questions, give us comments, give us feedback. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: do some themed episodes beyond those questions. If you have

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Speaker 2: any ideas just for these little mini conversations, do let

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Speaker 2: us know, and please be liking subscribing. So we recently

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Speaker 2: on one of these mini episodes of The Questlove Show,

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Speaker 2: we talked about sinners. I want to move from film

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Speaker 2: to television. You know, you talk a lot in passing

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Speaker 2: about shows, and I don't know how you have the

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Speaker 2: time to watch all these different things, plus have ten jobs.

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Speaker 2: But I want to ask what people sitting next to

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Speaker 2: each other on a plane or a train might ask,

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Speaker 2: what are you currently watching?

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Speaker 1: God, you gotta make me do this, aren't you. I've

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Speaker 1: witnessed two couples break up because of not honoring the

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Speaker 1: sacred contract or code of cheating on a series. On

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Speaker 1: a series, I'm dead ass like it wasn't the thing

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Speaker 1: that broke them up, but it was the straw that

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Speaker 1: broke the camel's back. And I guess I can tell

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Speaker 1: the story, which is basically a couple I knew that

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Speaker 1: broke up. And this is like three years ago, so

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Speaker 1: you know, the grace period's over. I guess he decided.

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Speaker 1: I think it's either a tragedy, stuck or something like

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Speaker 1: there was a reason why she had to miss four

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Speaker 1: episodes or whatever they committed to watching, and so he

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Speaker 1: decided to get a secret Amazon account or whatever so

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Speaker 1: that he could watch this. And often, you know, with

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Speaker 1: anyone who's technically challenged, and I've been one of these people,

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Speaker 1: there's some people that don't know that if you buy

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Speaker 1: an iPhone and an iPad or another laptop in your

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Speaker 1: name and use the same cloud, all the information is

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Speaker 1: going to go to all three devices. So she's very

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Speaker 1: much aware that he's going further into the series, but

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Speaker 1: she wants to use this as a tester. And so

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Speaker 1: they're watching and he's acting all shocked and oh my god,

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Speaker 1: did you know in his mind, probably a ward worthy

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Speaker 1: acting job of the year whatever, and she gave him

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Speaker 1: a chance to come clean. It's like and wasn't even like,

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Speaker 1: so you didn't see this? Or She's like, why did

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Speaker 1: you go through all that when you saw it already?

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Speaker 1: And then that just like I didn't see it already?

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Speaker 1: Why are you wanted me? Why did you see I

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Speaker 1: She pulled out the iPad says you've seen it already,

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Speaker 1: and then that led to see what else are you

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Speaker 1: lying about? And then they trust issues. They were just

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Speaker 1: never the same. They broke up like maybe four months later.

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Speaker 1: So I vowed to never I was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: because I just never ever seen any good happen out

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Speaker 1: too many TVs around me to, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: story the JFK. And first I was like, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: all the other stuff, so I was like, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: i'll miss this one out. But I mean people, just

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Speaker 1: the way they talk about I was like, fomo, like

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Speaker 1: you got to see this. And I started noticing that

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Speaker 1: we're in a weird nineteen ninety seven regression right now.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of new restaurants and bars in my

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Speaker 1: what Sex and the City felt like its first season.

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Speaker 1: Like there's literally a club that plays nothing but Sex

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Speaker 1: and the City highlights, and literally people are cosplaying like

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Speaker 1: it's nineteen ninety seven. The jeans right now that are

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Speaker 1: ninety seven again anyway. So we're like, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: I find out like two weeks ago that she's seeing

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Speaker 1: I was like, and I'm still I'm not caught up,

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Speaker 1: and she's already caught up. So yeah, love.

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Speaker 2: Story, love story, gontch you and I will say this,

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Speaker 2: I've only been married three years. Whole past works if

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Speaker 2: you're traveling, you can give someone a whole past to

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Speaker 2: cheatingh episode, but you got to communicate that.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, now you know there's there's the pit. She's

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Speaker 1: already ahead on the pit. I have to catch up

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Speaker 1: on the pit. She's also introduced another distraction in my

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Speaker 1: life that is getting really really bad. I didn't resist

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Speaker 1: it for snarky reasons or like because I think I'm

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Speaker 1: better than or whatever, but just in general, I barely

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Speaker 1: have watched any Kardashian related entertainment. Dog I saw one

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Speaker 1: episode because she had it on in the room and

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Speaker 1: they made a reference to something in the past or whatever,

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Speaker 1: like season eight, And it just so happened. It was

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Speaker 1: like one of them days where I had, like we

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Speaker 1: I fell down the whole bad. Like I started on

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Speaker 1: season one, I did not recognize who I was watching.

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Speaker 1: It's almost to the point where now I have to

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Speaker 1: I want to see how this works. Yeah, I got you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: When is your TV time?

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Speaker 2: Does it just vary when you have downtime?

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Speaker 1: TV is? I mean the way TV works in my

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Speaker 1: life is TV is more or less like an aquarium.

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Speaker 1: When I explained how I researched Summer of Soul, I

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Speaker 2: It's in the background of many a QLs playing exactly.

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Speaker 1: And so those that really know me know that seventy

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Speaker 1: percent of the time. I mean, I have pretty much

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Speaker 1: Soul Train on it. I just got all the SNL

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Speaker 1: it's just constantly playing. Maybe three years ago I decided

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Speaker 1: to stop sleeping to noise. I used to always keep

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Speaker 1: Soul Trained on even as I slept, wake up Soul Train,

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Speaker 1: and it's usually depending on who I'm dating and her

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Speaker 1: tolerance for Whenever the uh wow, you uh you really

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Speaker 1: like Soul Training? Do you like? That's it? When I

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Speaker 1: hear that, I'm like, all right, let me scale back

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Speaker 1: and only do I'm a scale back and just do

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Speaker 1: ten episodes a day, just ten, not twenty, but just

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Speaker 1: ten episodes a day. So in my office at thirty Rock,

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Speaker 1: I have it constantly running. Tarika is man. The way

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Speaker 1: doesn't see. Tarik's schedule is he'll go to bed super early,

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Speaker 1: that's his thing. So he's always like, Yo, you gotta

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Speaker 1: watch it. That's crazy. So when like a guest comes

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Speaker 1: you gotta see it. Jone's crazy. James Poison will be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: on any dramas. I'm trying to finish shrinking right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to finish like, uh, Floor of Us, like

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Speaker 1: all of those Apple drama whatever. I'll finish that in

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Speaker 1: the office, But when i'm home, it's either movies or soldiering.

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Speaker 2: Last question, you make some deep poll references. You're the

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Speaker 2: only person I know that has multiple times referenced the

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Speaker 2: Parker Lewis Can't Lose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You also Goooby Snack put me on to the Doobie

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Speaker 2: Brothers bootleg episode of What's Happening comes up a lot

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Speaker 2: as an analogy of other things going on in life

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Speaker 2: and closing put the people onto an overlooked or underrated

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Speaker 2: show just throughout history that you deeply appreciate but might

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Speaker 1: All right, So Lenda CARLINI was just on the Tonight Show,

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Speaker 1: but she had left the building before I got a

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Speaker 1: chance to tell her how crucial instrumental me watching Freaks

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Speaker 1: and Geeks was to the roots current business operandi right now.

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Speaker 1: Freaks and Geese, of course, is Judd Apatow's series that

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Speaker 1: you know. James Franco's in it, Linda's in it, everyone, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Seth Rogan's Everyone's in it, like all anyone that's ever

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Speaker 1: It was just one season only, and it's literally it's

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Speaker 1: almost like somewhere in between the wonder years of my

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Speaker 1: soul called life or or almost Famous. So it's a

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Speaker 1: I don't know it yet, but the daughter is going

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Speaker 1: hops in a Volkswagen Van and decides she's going to

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Speaker 1: trail to the Grateful Dead, and and it just so

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Speaker 1: like twenty plus years, and she's like, oh, that was

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Speaker 1: my story. I was a deadhead. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, explain that culture to me, because I don't

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Speaker 1: get like people are constantly telling me, like, yo, you

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Speaker 1: guys should jam more and solo more, Like your shows

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Speaker 1: You're a band, for God's sakes, like rehearse a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I think I was more or less gunshy to

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Speaker 1: do that because critics were really not good to jam bands.

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Speaker 1: You know. It just so happens that when she was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't see the value and Grateful Dead or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But we just happened to be somewhere in Rhode Island

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Speaker 1: one of the members of Fish Okay, And she was saying,

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Speaker 1: but like this is what they mean, Like I didn't

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Speaker 1: Jason Siegel's character is a drummer. He's in his garage

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Speaker 2: Yes, the dry mass and the whole thing, and it

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Speaker 1: Of grandeur? I can top it. I believe his first

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Speaker 1: a reference. But usually a note will come, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: my publish just told me you did no not from

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Speaker 1: my childhood. How does that upset you all that the

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Speaker 1: I mean people generally know, I mean that we tailored,

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Speaker 1: me that's what I mean. So they get after like on,

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Speaker 1: once they watch the show, they'll be like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I was on the show. This local public asks us, so,

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Speaker 1: how do you know that? So I have a whole

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Speaker 1: slew of how did you know that? It's your hard war? Yes,

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Speaker 1: got okay? Shout out to Tom Hayes and Sean and

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Speaker 1: all the okay player vets that helped me throughout the years.

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Speaker 1: Get those accolades. You know. They're definitely the unspoken heroes

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