WEBVTT - Clay's Deep Dive with DeSantis 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.560 Welcome in out kick the show. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.880 I teased yesterday we were going to have a special guest, 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.320 and he is with me here in my hometown of Nashville. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.360 He is Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, running for the Republican nomination. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.440 Has done a heck of a job so far as governor. 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.200 We've had him on a bunch of times over the 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.640 years on the shows. Now, and I want to start. 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.480 We're going to get into a bunch of different cool topics, 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.800 but I want to start with this. I was just 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.560 in Cooperstown, New York. My twelve year old is playing 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.760 in a tournament there over twenty fields. I know you 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.440 did little league baseball. You played in Williamsport. It was awesome. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.199 All my eight year old wanted to do because the 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.279 twelve year old stay in bunks. All my eight year 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.960 old wanted to do was go buy baseball cards. And so, 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.640 not surprisingly, everywhere in Cooperstown sells baseball cards. 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.320 And I know you are. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:48.040 A lifelong, long time baseball fan. I bet also you 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.720 loved baseball cards back in the day. So have you 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.960 gotten to share baseball cards at all with your kids? 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.360 I know the campaign did baseball cards. Have you shared 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.760 it with your kids yet are they interested? And when 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.600 you go back in time and think about when you 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.760 were a kid, what was your favorite baseball card set? 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.919 What was your favorite baseball cards? What do you remember 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:06.280 about that. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.560 So I was born in nineteen seventy eight, I started collecting, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.880 and probably eighty three eighty four, so you had like 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.600 the Don Mattingley Rokie, you know, and the tops and 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.240 Don Russ. You had the Wade Bogs eighty three cal 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.440 Ripkens I guess the year before. And then it got 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.919 into when the hobby really took off in like eighty six, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.759 when they overproduced everything. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:28.880 You know, you're buying, like you. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.640 Could still buy those guys. I knows, it was crazy. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.520 Yeah, yeah, so you had and they had a lot 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.680 of good players in that year too, So we did 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.720 that and and and that that that kind of kind 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.360 of crashed. But then up or when Upper Deck came 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.960 in eighty nine, they had the crank Can Griffy Junior. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.679 So that was kind of like the big deal for 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.640 that car that I have one graded ten that I 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:50.880 just keep for a souvenir. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.720 I mean, I'm not like, you know, trying to trade. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.920 Cards you I have not, But he's a Florida resident. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.480 So that card that you're talking about. Anybody who has 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.320 ever collect did baseball cards nineteen eighty nine Upper Deck, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.560 first ever set they made for people who don't know 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.560 number one card, number one Junior. Do you remember opening 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.400 up the packs and how exciting that. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.640 Because they were so much nicer than the tops at 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.680 the time because they were glossy or whatever. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.679 But I'll tell you it was hard to pull a 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:17.440 griffy man. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.640 I mean, like I remember doing packs it up and 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.679 they were much more expensive than tops, tire ten to 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.919 fifteen packs, and you could get like nothing good. I 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.560 mean that was kind of the big, the big problem 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.760 with you know, I look back at at my childhood 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.560 and I just say, you know, why did you not 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.000 buy eighty six fleeer basketball and just squirrel. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.520 Some of that away? I mean imagine like if you 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:37.760 just would have done you know. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.040 Four five boy ten, the Jordan rookie card for people 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.520 out there in the eighty six fleer and there are 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.200 tons of great rookie cards because they had a couple 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.919 of years where they didn't do basketball cards. 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.480 Did you have any of those at all? Because I 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:49.520 didn't never can't back. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.520 I don't remember even seeing them, and that may have 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.480 been a little bit before I liked basketball. I kind 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.959 of got into basketball once Jordan started winning the slam 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:58.200 dunk contests and stuff. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.080 But you know, it's a type of thing. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.440 If you just have an unopened box of eighty six Flayer, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.120 it's over one hundred thousand dollars. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.200 I think it goes for so, I mean it's like believable. 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.680 And that's actually one of those because I've seen people 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.080 open them. You will get a bunch of Jordan's, you know, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.720 in that box, so you're just not that many. And 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.200 then the thing is is like, you know, you have 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.519 you have the Jordan rookie, which is obviously the top, 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.280 but I mean, you know, you had all these other 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.240 guys a La Jahwan like all the I mean, it 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.280 was like a lot of really good players with their 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.000 rookie cards. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.880 You said, you still have the PSA eighty nine, uh 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.760 number one card, the King Grify Junior. Are there any 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.680 cards that you don't own now that just based on 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.200 nostalgia you would like to own? 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:33.839 Oh? 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:38.000 Well, you know, I at one point I think I 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.040 think I traded it away. I had a Nolan Ryan 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.800 rookie in nineteen sixty eight Tops, and it just you know, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.720 just because he's just the man and that that was 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.840 pretty cool to have. I don't think I I mean, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.800 I liked it as a kid, but like now looking back, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.560 I'm like, man, you should have just kept that like that. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.240 That's a that's a good one. And then you know, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:53.800 we did. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.040 I actually did a lot of stuff with with with Tiger, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.840 So I got a lot of Tiger rookie cards. Yeah, 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.480 you know, and those of those of held value pretty good. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.160 Over your wood you're talking, oh yea yeah, yeah. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.560 Yeah, when the golf came out. I should have gotten 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.800 more into some football back in the day. I didn't 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.120 really do that. It was kind of baseball. We started 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.000 to do a little bit of basketball in the nineties. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.479 I don't think any of that's worth very much, but uh, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.279 but I kind of wish I would have done some football. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.880 I have done just since I was a kid, just 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.760 for kicks, like we've done I think it's like eighty 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.320 one tops football with Montana's rookie So I've actually gotten 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.919 Montana rookie cards, like as an adult. Yeah, I mean 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.920 this is probably like fifteen years ago. You're like one 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.000 of the it's just that like a sports show or 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.400 something like there happened to be one in town or something, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.679 so I'd go, and I don't know how much it costs, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.200 but you get it, and like I mean I got 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.320 some Montana's, I mean, like you know, so yeah, no, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:44.040 it's a neat thing. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.880 We did because my boys are getting old enough now 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.919 they're fifteen, twelve, and eight. We bought the eighty seven 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.000 set that you're talking about, the top set. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:53.200 With the wood the wooden cards. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:57.560 Ef they're massively overproduced, but we opened them with my boys. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.800 Have you gotten old cards and set around? That's actually 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.800 really fun because it's almost like you're going back in 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.559 time because you see the card today, but you also 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:06.760 remember being a kid. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.200 And like, for instance, we pulled the Bo Jackson future 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:10.600 Star call. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.159 That's right, that was a good one. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.760 So I was still excited as a forty plus year 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.880 old guy because it took me back to remembering when 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.840 I was eight or nine years old, and my kids 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.560 thought it was super cool. They have Barry bonds, like, 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.440 there's a lot of good cards. Even though that set 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:23.960 was mad, that was a lot of great plays. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.320 So my son, he's five, but for Christmas, he was four, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:28.480 so you know, I got him a lot of stuff. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.160 I did get him some cards. He kind of liked it, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:32.800 but didn't get in. So I think he probably needs 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.359 another year, right, But I mean he got into I 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.080 mean he was so into football season and all that 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.919 we went. I took him to the Jags Chargers playoff 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.000 game and jackson that one well, because I was just 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.240 thinking to myself, I'm like, look, I'm a Bucks fan. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.440 I grew up in the Tampa area Brady. But Brady's 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.320 gonna retire, the Bucks aren't going to be as good. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.400 Jags have a young quarterback. So if my son's getting 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.240 in the sports, if he's getting into football, he can 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:55.960 follow the Jags. So we did it and that was 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:57.560 a great comeback, and so he had a good time. 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.440 So then I'm like, all right, well they're playing the Chiefs. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.200 He's like, can we I was like, it's not in Jacksonville. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.040 In Kansas City. It's like, oh, So I ended up 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.400 taking my six and five. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.560 I saw you guys walking around, So. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.120 We took him the Arrowhead and so that was the 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.440 first time I'd ever been in the Arrowhead. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.039 And I'll tell you what, it's a loudest as heck. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.080 I mean, it's a great stadium, and you know it 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.080 was you know, the Jags played him pretty good because 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.520 Mahomes got got hurt. But you know when they lost, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.599 I mean, I'm carrying my four year old son. He's 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:25.000 crying leaving Arrowhead. He was so so disappointed. So I 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.159 think he's gonna need but anyways, so so he was 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.039 so into football, watch the Super Bowl everything. Then that 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.599 next weekend we took the kids to the Florida State 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.680 College home opener for baseball, and just like that, it 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.880 was all baseball, all the time. So he's now in 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.520 he's the youngest kid in the coach pitch, so he's 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.800 graduated from because you know, I pitched to him, and 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.560 so we were out there the other day for his 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.960 first game, and like, you know, I didn't know how 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.520 he was going to do and the coaches and then 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.440 they're not like underhand, the coach will just kind of 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.960 do that, and he's just cracking them because he's you know, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.160 he's used to doing that at home. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:53.640 So it was good. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.200 So I think I think maybe this Christmas he probably 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.160 will get into baseball cards a little bit better. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.480 The coach pitch there's so much stress on the dad. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.279 I know, you know, because you got to throw a 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.640 good pitch and you only get I've coached you only 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.120 get six pitches. So you got four or five and 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.320 they're not very good or they haven't swung yet. You 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:11.920 get to six and you make them have to swing. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.080 I've been in games where they've had to pull the 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.400 dad because the dad is like long, like it gets 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.320 in his head and the dad can't throw. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:19.840 It to your head. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.080 It's just like, it's just like the catcher on Major League. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.240 You can throw the ball the pitcher when you have 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.800 in baseball, you have the mental blocks. But I was 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.000 doing underhand with him and hitting, and then this league 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.240 was that, and he likes the overhead better, so I don't. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.240 I don't do overhand. I don't do underhand anymore. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:34.840 Uh. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.800 Speaking of the Baseball Hall of Fame, I'm curious what 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.400 you think because you played baseball at Yale. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.000 Sho heo Tani. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:46.280 Is he the most underrated, underdiscussed baseball player of a 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.440 modern era? Because I look at what he's doing and 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.360 the numbers are off the charts. He's basically the reason 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.000 why I was thinking about it so much is I 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.600 took my kids and we're standing in front of the 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.000 old Babe Ruth in jerseys and everything else. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:58.720 He's basically Babe Ruth. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.680 And I feel like we're under rating and underdiscussing how 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:02.400 incredible he is. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:02.640 Yeah. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.920 I mean, whenever I'm asked about who the goat in 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.000 baseball is, I always say Ruth. And you know, you 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.840 can argue, like, you know, Willie Mays, you know, maybe 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.880 Ted Williams the best hitter all this, and I say, look, 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.440 Ruth was the greatest home run hitter of his era, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.320 one of the best ever. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.080 But he was also one of the best pitchers of 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.560 his era. He just they just. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.480 Decided to move him to outfield one once he went 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.360 to Yankees. But I mean, this guy was a Hall 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.120 of Fame pitcher too, And to do both of those now, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.480 Ruth kind of he started to hit and then once 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.000 he started to hit, he stopped pitching. Otani is doing 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.760 both right now, and I think he is the top 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.320 star in baseball, because how the hell do you do that. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.040 No one's been able to do that at that level 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.640 in baseball history for the last hundred years. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.000 If you had had an opportunity to play minor League baseball, 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.679 You went on to graduate from Yale, went to Harvard 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.480 for law school. You've obviously been very successful. You're running 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.160 for president of the United States, kind of a big thing. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.080 Would you have ever gotten into politics if you could? 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.320 So this is the truth. So you know, I would 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.160 have done play baseball as long as I could. But 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.679 I knew, like you know that, you know Division one 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.920 base college players like ninety nine percent. Like if you 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.960 look at all the little league kids who start out, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:08.880 you're in the top one percent. But to get the 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.400 big leagues, that's like the top point one or whatever, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.120 and there's just a big difference there. So I was 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.680 realistic about that. But what my plan on doing law 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.720 school was to try to do baseball on the business side, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.960 in the front office or something like that. But then 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.080 nine to eleven happened, and so then I ended up 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.480 joining the Navy, and I felt a calling to serve. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.240 I wanted a volunteer, so I served in a rack, 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.560 I served all these places, and then that just kind 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.040 of took me in a different path. But had that 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.000 not happened, I think I would have gone into baseball 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.600 and been involved on that side of the house. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.240 Yeah, there's a multiverse out there where you never go 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.319 into politics instead go straight into that. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.280 I think so the front office, Sie, I think so. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.679 That leads us into I'm curious what you thought about this. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.840 The All Star Game got pulled out of Atlanta. I 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.880 bet you had pretty strong feelings. Hank Aaron was going 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.600 to be honored. They decided to move it out to Denver. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.360 Now there's talk that Rob Manford is going to bring 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.760 the All Star back to Atlanta because now they've acknowledged 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.319 Remember they pulled it because Joe Biden came out and said, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.600 this isn't Jim Crow, this is Jim Eagle. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.679 And now there's a recognition. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.760 Oh, by the way, more people voted in the twenty 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.439 twenty two midterms in Georgia almost ever by far. Yes, 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.280 the data reflects that that was all a lie. Do 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.440 you think Rob Manfred, you're a baseball guy, I'm a 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.360 baseball fan. Do you think Rob Manfred should apologize to 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.160 Braves fans and say, hey, we got this wrong and 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:25.959 that's why we're wrong. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:26.320 Yeah? 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.040 I mean, exactly what is wrong with just admitting that? 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.360 And what major League Baseball did? They responded to a 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:37.040 fake narrative, that's right, the Democrats lie, the corporate press 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.960 amplifies the lie. There becomes a frenzy, and then people 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.000 just gen reflect to that and that's not responsible. You 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.120 have to look to see whether this is truth or not. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.559 And that's why a lot of those companies, Coca col Or, whatever, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.360 a lot of people were not happy with them. That's because, like, look, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.280 if they really did do Jim Crow two as a corporation, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.480 speak out against it. I mean, that's fine, but that 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.199 was a lie. Yes, this was very common sense stuff. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.520 It was not targeted at anybody. And as you say, 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.280 the elections that have happened since then, there was massive 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:12.040 turnout and there's zero zero truth to that. But if 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:13.800 you had read the bill at the time. 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.679 You knew it was a lie then, which is what 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.480 Marce Camp said. Yes, and he told Rob Manford that 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.640 he's come on my radio show and said, I told him, 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.120 you're buying a false bill at Goods here. I just 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.440 wish there was accountability in some way, right. I think 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.839 sports fans and Americans in general, if he came out 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.960 and said, hey, I got it wrong, then I think 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.199 people would respect it more. Yeah, And instead he's just 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:34.439 gonna pretend he never said. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.439 It, but also accountability from the media, like they will 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.640 never admit a mistake. But I mean, that was a 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.440 false narrative, right, and it was knowingly false because if 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.240 you had done any research, you would have known that 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.280 wasn't true. And yet they create a narrative sometime on 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.400 Georgia you can't vote or whatever. That's right, and that 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.920 was an absolute lie. And that's just what they do. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.800 And speaking of absolutely, this is a good This is 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.360 a good segue. I want to read a couple of 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:03.959 quotes to you. Kamala Harris has come after you over 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:10.760 what she is saying is flawed reporting the new rules 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.160 for how to teach history in Florida, and I'm reading 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.240 directly from her Twitter account in the state of Florida, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:21.280 they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:26.720 people benefited from slavery. They insult us in an attempt 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.320 to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.400 That's the Vice president, Kamala Harris. When you saw this, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.280 When you hear this, what's your reaction. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.800 Well, obviously she's lying, but then you know that there 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.640 is going to be corporate press that are going to 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.640 run with that and try to create a narrative. Now 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.040 there's actually been some that have pushed back because it's 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:45.160 so egregious. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:45.679 Interesting. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.400 You know, when we got rid of critical race theory 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.680 a couple of years ago. We in the bill that 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.920 we did, we said, you must teach accurate history, you 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.079 must teach about racial discrimination, you must teach about all 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.839 aspects of African American. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:12:59.920 History, because we believe in true history. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.240 The left in the media at the time was saying 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.640 Florida doesn't want to have any African American history. So 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.000 the standards that were developed. These are black history scholars, 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.000 many of whom were African American themselves. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:11.960 They worked on this. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.280 There's like I mean, it's very very thorough, and it 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.720 is every little aspect of not just slavery, but the 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.760 black experience in America from colonial times the beginning. No 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.600 one can read those and think somehow that they are 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.839 shilling for them. I mean, it's ridiculous. So everybody knows that. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.160 But she said that they said there was not going 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.559 to be any Black history. Now they're saying that somehow 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.880 this is not accurate, and the reality is, you know, 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.800 they're lying again. They're creating a narrative but you know, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.000 you actually had some of these guys go on TV. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.880 You know, one of them is an African American scholar, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.520 and he's like, everything we did here is factual, it's truthful. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.200 We are not doing an agenda. We're just telling the truth. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.240 And I think the reason why Harris and Biden and 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.480 the left and the media react is because what they 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.679 see we're doing in Florida is we've kneecapped their ability 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.920 to use American history to advance their modern day agenda. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.280 That is not the appropriate use of history. So they're 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:04.640 doing that. 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.440 Now they're saying, oh, well, there was a provision in 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:08.839 there that say somehow. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.200 This was good. No, that's not what it says. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.080 What it says was that there were slaves that developed skills, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.800 which they did, but that was in spite of slavery. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.520 That wasn't because of slavery. And then they use those 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.120 skills postbellum to be able to provide for themselves and 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.640 their families. And so this scholar who's been on TV, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.800 you know, he said, that's my history, Like I'm not 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.920 going to let Kamala Harris erase my history. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.480 Like that's true, and that's what happened. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.640 Do you think she is making a decision to intentionally lie, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.800 or do you think she's lazy and hasn't done her 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.480 research here, or do you think this. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.760 Ghost But she obviously is not doing any research. She 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.320 hasn't read the standard. She was given this probably by 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.880 an aid. She probably knows that given the fact of 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.440 how these standards came into being. You know, these are 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.280 serious people that developed them, They were vetted. You actually 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.280 have teachers unions now left wing teachers unions attacking it. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:03.200 But the were involved in this, and they were complimenting 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.920 it as it was going on. It was done in 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.200 the open for many, many months, yep, and no one 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.280 said anything. And so then they figured, well, maybe we 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.720 can demagogue and do it so they know exactly what 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.400 they're doing. But look, the Biden Harris administration, they've been 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.280 obsessed with Florida since the day they took office. Anytime 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.400 they can come and think about it, she flies a 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.640 taxpayer expense to go down to Jacksonville to demagogue the 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.600 good work of these people who are not like my supporters, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.880 these are serious scholars. She's not going to the border 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.000 to deal with that. That's supposed to be her issue, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.080 and yet we have tens of thousands of Americans dying 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.240 from fetanyl, we have kids being human traffic and sex traffic. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.320 She doesn't deal with any of that. She's not dealing 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.720 with anything on the economy. She's coming down to Florida 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.160 to try to demagogue. And the thing is is people 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.880 know the drill by now, they know kind of this 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.680 is what they do, and I think most people just 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.160 dismiss it at this point. 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.000 So she's selling this false bill. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.880 Do you feel like, as you're running for president that 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.680 if Biden runs, Well, maybe i'll start here. Do you 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.160 think Biden will actually be the nominee in twenty four 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:08.120 I think. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.600 He wants to be, and I think if he can 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.280 drag himself up, then you know, as the incumbent president, 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.160 they can't just take it away from you. I mean 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:19.640 that's the issue, and he unless he goes willingly, I 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:20.800