Speaker 1: Welcome in out kick the show.
Speaker 2: I teased yesterday we were going to have a special guest,
Speaker 2: and he is with me here in my hometown of Nashville.
Speaker 2: He is Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, running for the Republican nomination.
Speaker 2: Has done a heck of a job so far as governor.
Speaker 2: We've had him on a bunch of times over the
Speaker 2: years on the shows. Now, and I want to start.
Speaker 2: We're going to get into a bunch of different cool topics,
Speaker 2: but I want to start with this. I was just
Speaker 2: in Cooperstown, New York. My twelve year old is playing
Speaker 2: in a tournament there over twenty fields. I know you
Speaker 2: did little league baseball. You played in Williamsport. It was awesome.
Speaker 2: All my eight year old wanted to do because the
Speaker 2: twelve year old stay in bunks. All my eight year
Speaker 2: old wanted to do was go buy baseball cards. And so,
Speaker 2: not surprisingly, everywhere in Cooperstown sells baseball cards.
Speaker 1: And I know you are.
Speaker 2: A lifelong, long time baseball fan. I bet also you
Speaker 2: loved baseball cards back in the day. So have you
Speaker 2: gotten to share baseball cards at all with your kids?
Speaker 2: I know the campaign did baseball cards. Have you shared
Speaker 2: it with your kids yet are they interested? And when
Speaker 2: you go back in time and think about when you
Speaker 2: were a kid, what was your favorite baseball card set?
Speaker 1: What was your favorite baseball cards? What do you remember
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 3: So I was born in nineteen seventy eight, I started collecting,
Speaker 3: and probably eighty three eighty four, so you had like
Speaker 3: the Don Mattingley Rokie, you know, and the tops and
Speaker 3: Don Russ. You had the Wade Bogs eighty three cal
Speaker 3: Ripkens I guess the year before. And then it got
Speaker 3: into when the hobby really took off in like eighty six,
Speaker 3: when they overproduced everything.
Speaker 4: You know, you're buying, like you.
Speaker 1: Could still buy those guys. I knows, it was crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you had and they had a lot
Speaker 3: of good players in that year too, So we did
Speaker 3: that and and and that that that kind of kind
Speaker 3: of crashed. But then up or when Upper Deck came
Speaker 3: in eighty nine, they had the crank Can Griffy Junior.
Speaker 3: So that was kind of like the big deal for
Speaker 3: that car that I have one graded ten that I
Speaker 3: just keep for a souvenir.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not like, you know, trying to trade.
Speaker 3: Cards you I have not, But he's a Florida resident.
Speaker 2: So that card that you're talking about. Anybody who has
Speaker 2: ever collect did baseball cards nineteen eighty nine Upper Deck,
Speaker 2: first ever set they made for people who don't know
Speaker 2: number one card, number one Junior. Do you remember opening
Speaker 2: up the packs and how exciting that.
Speaker 3: Because they were so much nicer than the tops at
Speaker 3: the time because they were glossy or whatever.
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you it was hard to pull a
Speaker 4: griffy man.
Speaker 3: I mean, like I remember doing packs it up and
Speaker 3: they were much more expensive than tops, tire ten to
Speaker 3: fifteen packs, and you could get like nothing good. I
Speaker 3: mean that was kind of the big, the big problem
Speaker 3: with you know, I look back at at my childhood
Speaker 3: and I just say, you know, why did you not
Speaker 3: buy eighty six fleeer basketball and just squirrel.
Speaker 4: Some of that away? I mean imagine like if you
Speaker 4: just would have done you know.
Speaker 2: Four five boy ten, the Jordan rookie card for people
Speaker 2: out there in the eighty six fleer and there are
Speaker 2: tons of great rookie cards because they had a couple
Speaker 2: of years where they didn't do basketball cards.
Speaker 1: Did you have any of those at all? Because I
Speaker 1: didn't never can't back.
Speaker 3: I don't remember even seeing them, and that may have
Speaker 3: been a little bit before I liked basketball. I kind
Speaker 3: of got into basketball once Jordan started winning the slam
Speaker 3: dunk contests and stuff.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's a type of thing.
Speaker 3: If you just have an unopened box of eighty six Flayer,
Speaker 3: it's over one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: I think it goes for so, I mean it's like believable.
Speaker 3: And that's actually one of those because I've seen people
Speaker 3: open them. You will get a bunch of Jordan's, you know,
Speaker 3: in that box, so you're just not that many. And
Speaker 3: then the thing is is like, you know, you have
Speaker 3: you have the Jordan rookie, which is obviously the top,
Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, you had all these other
Speaker 3: guys a La Jahwan like all the I mean, it
Speaker 3: was like a lot of really good players with their
Speaker 3: rookie cards.
Speaker 2: You said, you still have the PSA eighty nine, uh
Speaker 2: number one card, the King Grify Junior. Are there any
Speaker 2: cards that you don't own now that just based on
Speaker 2: nostalgia you would like to own?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I at one point I think I
Speaker 3: think I traded it away. I had a Nolan Ryan
Speaker 3: rookie in nineteen sixty eight Tops, and it just you know,
Speaker 3: just because he's just the man and that that was
Speaker 3: pretty cool to have. I don't think I I mean,
Speaker 3: I liked it as a kid, but like now looking back,
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you should have just kept that like that.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a good one. And then you know,
Speaker 4: we did.
Speaker 3: I actually did a lot of stuff with with with Tiger,
Speaker 3: So I got a lot of Tiger rookie cards. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, and those of those of held value pretty good.
Speaker 1: Over your wood you're talking, oh yea yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when the golf came out. I should have gotten
Speaker 3: more into some football back in the day. I didn't
Speaker 3: really do that. It was kind of baseball. We started
Speaker 3: to do a little bit of basketball in the nineties.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of that's worth very much, but uh,
Speaker 3: but I kind of wish I would have done some football.
Speaker 3: I have done just since I was a kid, just
Speaker 3: for kicks, like we've done I think it's like eighty
Speaker 3: one tops football with Montana's rookie So I've actually gotten
Speaker 3: Montana rookie cards, like as an adult. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: this is probably like fifteen years ago. You're like one
Speaker 3: of the it's just that like a sports show or
Speaker 3: something like there happened to be one in town or something,
Speaker 3: so I'd go, and I don't know how much it costs,
Speaker 3: but you get it, and like I mean I got
Speaker 3: some Montana's, I mean, like you know, so yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's a neat thing.
Speaker 2: We did because my boys are getting old enough now
Speaker 2: they're fifteen, twelve, and eight. We bought the eighty seven
Speaker 2: set that you're talking about, the top set.
Speaker 4: With the wood the wooden cards.
Speaker 2: Ef they're massively overproduced, but we opened them with my boys.
Speaker 2: Have you gotten old cards and set around? That's actually
Speaker 2: really fun because it's almost like you're going back in
Speaker 2: time because you see the card today, but you also
Speaker 2: remember being a kid.
Speaker 1: And like, for instance, we pulled the Bo Jackson future
Speaker 1: Star call.
Speaker 4: That's right, that was a good one.
Speaker 2: So I was still excited as a forty plus year
Speaker 2: old guy because it took me back to remembering when
Speaker 2: I was eight or nine years old, and my kids
Speaker 2: thought it was super cool. They have Barry bonds, like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of good cards. Even though that set
Speaker 2: was mad, that was a lot of great plays.
Speaker 3: So my son, he's five, but for Christmas, he was four,
Speaker 3: so you know, I got him a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: I did get him some cards. He kind of liked it,
Speaker 3: but didn't get in. So I think he probably needs
Speaker 3: another year, right, But I mean he got into I
Speaker 3: mean he was so into football season and all that
Speaker 3: we went. I took him to the Jags Chargers playoff
Speaker 3: game and jackson that one well, because I was just
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, I'm like, look, I'm a Bucks fan.
Speaker 3: I grew up in the Tampa area Brady. But Brady's
Speaker 3: gonna retire, the Bucks aren't going to be as good.
Speaker 3: Jags have a young quarterback. So if my son's getting
Speaker 3: in the sports, if he's getting into football, he can
Speaker 3: follow the Jags. So we did it and that was
Speaker 3: a great comeback, and so he had a good time.
Speaker 3: So then I'm like, all right, well they're playing the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: He's like, can we I was like, it's not in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: In Kansas City. It's like, oh, So I ended up
Speaker 3: taking my six and five.
Speaker 1: I saw you guys walking around, So.
Speaker 3: We took him the Arrowhead and so that was the
Speaker 3: first time I'd ever been in the Arrowhead.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, it's a loudest as heck.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a great stadium, and you know it
Speaker 3: was you know, the Jags played him pretty good because
Speaker 3: Mahomes got got hurt. But you know when they lost,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm carrying my four year old son. He's
Speaker 3: crying leaving Arrowhead. He was so so disappointed. So I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna need but anyways, so so he was
Speaker 3: so into football, watch the Super Bowl everything. Then that
Speaker 3: next weekend we took the kids to the Florida State
Speaker 3: College home opener for baseball, and just like that, it
Speaker 3: was all baseball, all the time. So he's now in
Speaker 3: he's the youngest kid in the coach pitch, so he's
Speaker 3: graduated from because you know, I pitched to him, and
Speaker 3: so we were out there the other day for his
Speaker 3: first game, and like, you know, I didn't know how
Speaker 3: he was going to do and the coaches and then
Speaker 3: they're not like underhand, the coach will just kind of
Speaker 3: do that, and he's just cracking them because he's you know,
Speaker 3: he's used to doing that at home.
Speaker 4: So it was good.
Speaker 3: So I think I think maybe this Christmas he probably
Speaker 3: will get into baseball cards a little bit better.
Speaker 2: The coach pitch there's so much stress on the dad.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, because you got to throw a
Speaker 2: good pitch and you only get I've coached you only
Speaker 2: get six pitches. So you got four or five and
Speaker 2: they're not very good or they haven't swung yet. You
Speaker 2: get to six and you make them have to swing.
Speaker 2: I've been in games where they've had to pull the
Speaker 2: dad because the dad is like long, like it gets
Speaker 2: in his head and the dad can't throw.
Speaker 1: It to your head.
Speaker 3: It's just like, it's just like the catcher on Major League.
Speaker 3: You can throw the ball the pitcher when you have
Speaker 3: in baseball, you have the mental blocks. But I was
Speaker 3: doing underhand with him and hitting, and then this league
Speaker 3: was that, and he likes the overhead better, so I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't do overhand. I don't do underhand anymore.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Baseball Hall of Fame, I'm curious what
Speaker 2: you think because you played baseball at Yale.
Speaker 1: Sho heo Tani.
Speaker 2: Is he the most underrated, underdiscussed baseball player of a
Speaker 2: modern era? Because I look at what he's doing and
Speaker 2: the numbers are off the charts. He's basically the reason
Speaker 2: why I was thinking about it so much is I
Speaker 2: took my kids and we're standing in front of the
Speaker 2: old Babe Ruth in jerseys and everything else.
Speaker 1: He's basically Babe Ruth.
Speaker 2: And I feel like we're under rating and underdiscussing how
Speaker 2: incredible he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, whenever I'm asked about who the goat in
Speaker 3: baseball is, I always say Ruth. And you know, you
Speaker 3: can argue, like, you know, Willie Mays, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: Ted Williams the best hitter all this, and I say, look,
Speaker 3: Ruth was the greatest home run hitter of his era,
Speaker 3: one of the best ever.
Speaker 4: But he was also one of the best pitchers of
Speaker 4: his era. He just they just.
Speaker 3: Decided to move him to outfield one once he went
Speaker 3: to Yankees. But I mean, this guy was a Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame pitcher too, And to do both of those now,
Speaker 3: Ruth kind of he started to hit and then once
Speaker 3: he started to hit, he stopped pitching. Otani is doing
Speaker 3: both right now, and I think he is the top
Speaker 3: star in baseball, because how the hell do you do that.
Speaker 3: No one's been able to do that at that level
Speaker 3: in baseball history for the last hundred years.
Speaker 2: If you had had an opportunity to play minor League baseball,
Speaker 2: You went on to graduate from Yale, went to Harvard
Speaker 2: for law school. You've obviously been very successful. You're running
Speaker 2: for president of the United States, kind of a big thing.
Speaker 2: Would you have ever gotten into politics if you could?
Speaker 3: So this is the truth. So you know, I would
Speaker 3: have done play baseball as long as I could. But
Speaker 3: I knew, like you know that, you know Division one
Speaker 3: base college players like ninety nine percent. Like if you
Speaker 3: look at all the little league kids who start out,
Speaker 3: you're in the top one percent. But to get the
Speaker 3: big leagues, that's like the top point one or whatever,
Speaker 3: and there's just a big difference there. So I was
Speaker 3: realistic about that. But what my plan on doing law
Speaker 3: school was to try to do baseball on the business side,
Speaker 3: in the front office or something like that. But then
Speaker 3: nine to eleven happened, and so then I ended up
Speaker 3: joining the Navy, and I felt a calling to serve.
Speaker 3: I wanted a volunteer, so I served in a rack,
Speaker 3: I served all these places, and then that just kind
Speaker 3: of took me in a different path. But had that
Speaker 3: not happened, I think I would have gone into baseball
Speaker 3: and been involved on that side of the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a multiverse out there where you never go
Speaker 2: into politics instead go straight into that.
Speaker 4: I think so the front office, Sie, I think so.
Speaker 2: That leads us into I'm curious what you thought about this.
Speaker 2: The All Star Game got pulled out of Atlanta. I
Speaker 2: bet you had pretty strong feelings. Hank Aaron was going
Speaker 2: to be honored. They decided to move it out to Denver.
Speaker 2: Now there's talk that Rob Manford is going to bring
Speaker 2: the All Star back to Atlanta because now they've acknowledged
Speaker 2: Remember they pulled it because Joe Biden came out and said,
Speaker 2: this isn't Jim Crow, this is Jim Eagle.
Speaker 1: And now there's a recognition.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, more people voted in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two midterms in Georgia almost ever by far. Yes,
Speaker 2: the data reflects that that was all a lie. Do
Speaker 2: you think Rob Manfred, you're a baseball guy, I'm a
Speaker 2: baseball fan. Do you think Rob Manfred should apologize to
Speaker 2: Braves fans and say, hey, we got this wrong and
Speaker 2: that's why we're wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, exactly what is wrong with just admitting that?
Speaker 3: And what major League Baseball did? They responded to a
Speaker 3: fake narrative, that's right, the Democrats lie, the corporate press
Speaker 3: amplifies the lie. There becomes a frenzy, and then people
Speaker 3: just gen reflect to that and that's not responsible. You
Speaker 3: have to look to see whether this is truth or not.
Speaker 3: And that's why a lot of those companies, Coca col Or, whatever,
Speaker 3: a lot of people were not happy with them. That's because, like, look,
Speaker 3: if they really did do Jim Crow two as a corporation,
Speaker 3: speak out against it. I mean, that's fine, but that
Speaker 3: was a lie. Yes, this was very common sense stuff.
Speaker 3: It was not targeted at anybody. And as you say,
Speaker 3: the elections that have happened since then, there was massive
Speaker 3: turnout and there's zero zero truth to that. But if
Speaker 3: you had read the bill at the time.
Speaker 2: You knew it was a lie then, which is what
Speaker 2: Marce Camp said. Yes, and he told Rob Manford that
Speaker 2: he's come on my radio show and said, I told him,
Speaker 2: you're buying a false bill at Goods here. I just
Speaker 2: wish there was accountability in some way, right. I think
Speaker 2: sports fans and Americans in general, if he came out
Speaker 2: and said, hey, I got it wrong, then I think
Speaker 2: people would respect it more. Yeah, And instead he's just
Speaker 2: gonna pretend he never said.
Speaker 3: It, but also accountability from the media, like they will
Speaker 3: never admit a mistake. But I mean, that was a
Speaker 3: false narrative, right, and it was knowingly false because if
Speaker 3: you had done any research, you would have known that
Speaker 3: wasn't true. And yet they create a narrative sometime on
Speaker 3: Georgia you can't vote or whatever. That's right, and that
Speaker 3: was an absolute lie. And that's just what they do.
Speaker 2: And speaking of absolutely, this is a good This is
Speaker 2: a good segue. I want to read a couple of
Speaker 2: quotes to you. Kamala Harris has come after you over
Speaker 2: what she is saying is flawed reporting the new rules
Speaker 2: for how to teach history in Florida, and I'm reading
Speaker 2: directly from her Twitter account in the state of Florida,
Speaker 2: they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved
Speaker 2: people benefited from slavery. They insult us in an attempt
Speaker 2: to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it.
Speaker 2: That's the Vice president, Kamala Harris. When you saw this,
Speaker 2: When you hear this, what's your reaction.
Speaker 3: Well, obviously she's lying, but then you know that there
Speaker 3: is going to be corporate press that are going to
Speaker 3: run with that and try to create a narrative. Now
Speaker 3: there's actually been some that have pushed back because it's
Speaker 3: so egregious.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 3: You know, when we got rid of critical race theory
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. We in the bill that
Speaker 3: we did, we said, you must teach accurate history, you
Speaker 3: must teach about racial discrimination, you must teach about all
Speaker 3: aspects of African American.
Speaker 4: History, because we believe in true history.
Speaker 3: The left in the media at the time was saying
Speaker 3: Florida doesn't want to have any African American history. So
Speaker 3: the standards that were developed. These are black history scholars,
Speaker 3: many of whom were African American themselves.
Speaker 4: They worked on this.
Speaker 3: There's like I mean, it's very very thorough, and it
Speaker 3: is every little aspect of not just slavery, but the
Speaker 3: black experience in America from colonial times the beginning. No
Speaker 3: one can read those and think somehow that they are
Speaker 3: shilling for them. I mean, it's ridiculous. So everybody knows that.
Speaker 3: But she said that they said there was not going
Speaker 3: to be any Black history. Now they're saying that somehow
Speaker 3: this is not accurate, and the reality is, you know,
Speaker 3: they're lying again. They're creating a narrative but you know,
Speaker 3: you actually had some of these guys go on TV.
Speaker 3: You know, one of them is an African American scholar,
Speaker 3: and he's like, everything we did here is factual, it's truthful.
Speaker 3: We are not doing an agenda. We're just telling the truth.
Speaker 3: And I think the reason why Harris and Biden and
Speaker 3: the left and the media react is because what they
Speaker 3: see we're doing in Florida is we've kneecapped their ability
Speaker 3: to use American history to advance their modern day agenda.
Speaker 4: That is not the appropriate use of history. So they're
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 3: Now they're saying, oh, well, there was a provision in
Speaker 3: there that say somehow.
Speaker 4: This was good. No, that's not what it says.
Speaker 3: What it says was that there were slaves that developed skills,
Speaker 3: which they did, but that was in spite of slavery.
Speaker 3: That wasn't because of slavery. And then they use those
Speaker 3: skills postbellum to be able to provide for themselves and
Speaker 3: their families. And so this scholar who's been on TV,
Speaker 3: you know, he said, that's my history, Like I'm not
Speaker 3: going to let Kamala Harris erase my history.
Speaker 4: Like that's true, and that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Do you think she is making a decision to intentionally lie,
Speaker 2: or do you think she's lazy and hasn't done her
Speaker 2: research here, or do you think this.
Speaker 3: Ghost But she obviously is not doing any research. She
Speaker 3: hasn't read the standard. She was given this probably by
Speaker 3: an aid. She probably knows that given the fact of
Speaker 3: how these standards came into being. You know, these are
Speaker 3: serious people that developed them, They were vetted. You actually
Speaker 3: have teachers unions now left wing teachers unions attacking it.
Speaker 3: But the were involved in this, and they were complimenting
Speaker 3: it as it was going on. It was done in
Speaker 3: the open for many, many months, yep, and no one
Speaker 3: said anything. And so then they figured, well, maybe we
Speaker 3: can demagogue and do it so they know exactly what
Speaker 3: they're doing. But look, the Biden Harris administration, they've been
Speaker 3: obsessed with Florida since the day they took office. Anytime
Speaker 3: they can come and think about it, she flies a
Speaker 3: taxpayer expense to go down to Jacksonville to demagogue the
Speaker 3: good work of these people who are not like my supporters,
Speaker 3: these are serious scholars. She's not going to the border
Speaker 3: to deal with that. That's supposed to be her issue,
Speaker 3: and yet we have tens of thousands of Americans dying
Speaker 3: from fetanyl, we have kids being human traffic and sex traffic.
Speaker 3: She doesn't deal with any of that. She's not dealing
Speaker 3: with anything on the economy. She's coming down to Florida
Speaker 3: to try to demagogue. And the thing is is people
Speaker 3: know the drill by now, they know kind of this
Speaker 3: is what they do, and I think most people just
Speaker 3: dismiss it at this point.
Speaker 1: So she's selling this false bill.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, as you're running for president that
Speaker 2: if Biden runs, Well, maybe i'll start here. Do you
Speaker 2: think Biden will actually be the nominee in twenty four
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: He wants to be, and I think if he can
Speaker 3: drag himself up, then you know, as the incumbent president,
Speaker 3: they can't just take it away from you. I mean
Speaker 3: that's the issue, and he unless he goes willingly, I
Speaker 3: think he will be the nominee.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if he's the nominee, I think Nikki Haley
Speaker 2: came out and said she's running obviously as a Republican
Speaker 2: primary contender as well, that she feels on some level
Speaker 2: like she's running against Kamala because she thinks Biden will
Speaker 2: step down and Kamala Harris will be president.
Speaker 1: Do you think they've worked through that.
Speaker 2: Do you think if Biden were re elected in twenty
Speaker 2: four with Kamala as his VP, that Kamala would end
Speaker 2: up president at some point?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, you have to look at what's
Speaker 3: the average mortality rate in the United States. Biden will
Speaker 3: be eighty two, I think, when so, I mean, he's
Speaker 3: already past normal life expectancy. So it's not like that
Speaker 3: would be an unforeseen thing. And I think the American
Speaker 3: people should know if you're voting for Biden, you know
Speaker 3: you are effectively voting for Harris to likely be the
Speaker 3: president of the United States over the next four years.
Speaker 3: There's just a good chance that that happens. Given given
Speaker 3: those actuarial tables, and as bad as Biden's been, I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people would view Kamala's even worse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's possible.
Speaker 1: No, I think there's some truth to that.
Speaker 2: So, speaking on Biden for a minute, I'm sure you've
Speaker 2: seen the revelations in the last week or so, which
Speaker 2: are significant. We had double irs whistleblowers testify that essentially
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden got a sweetheart deal that the FBI an
Speaker 2: agent came out under oath and said they knew the
Speaker 2: laptop was real. Argument that the FBI was tipped off
Speaker 2: that Beisma had paid millions of dollars to both Hunter
Speaker 2: and Joe Biden, potentially to get a prosecutor fired in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: We also, on top of all that, now have Hunter
Speaker 2: Biden's art selling for one point three million dollars. Okay,
Speaker 2: you have been involved in impeachment before when you were
Speaker 2: a congressman. It seems to me on many levels that
Speaker 2: they impeached Trump for asking about what Biden was doing.
Speaker 2: Should Kevin McCarthy, in your mind, in the House Republicans
Speaker 2: open an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden? Is that justified?
Speaker 2: Based on the allegations that are out there, there's.
Speaker 3: Way more basis to do Biden than they had to
Speaker 3: do Trump. I mean the Trump was very flimsy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they went ahead, guns blazing Biden. You're talking about really
Speaker 3: significant corruption at stake with him and his family. And
Speaker 3: it also raises the issue apart from that, because I
Speaker 3: do think one of the issues is people see Kamal
Speaker 3: awaiting in the wings and I don't know the Senate
Speaker 3: would convict him, but they like, are we really trying.
Speaker 4: To pack through the path.
Speaker 3: So that helps Biden because she's good impeachment insurance for him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he actually had a really good VP. Yes,
Speaker 1: there would be maybe yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, So so there's that. But what this
Speaker 3: shows with all the whistleblower is, you know, this weaponization
Speaker 3: of these agencies. You know, on the one hand, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: there's parents going to a school board meeting in Virginia,
Speaker 3: let's stick the FBI, and that's clearly an abuse weaponization.
Speaker 3: But the flip side of that is when you're connected
Speaker 3: to the ruling club, the DC ruling class, you know,
Speaker 3: you get away scott free with stuff so many things
Speaker 3: should have launched a really serious inquiry, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you know you're going to go guns blazing on some
Speaker 3: of these offenses against people you don't like, like a
Speaker 3: massive investigation in this. Did you even send a subpoena out?
Speaker 3: Did you ever even go to a grand jury? I
Speaker 3: mean it's kind of like with Hillary. You know, one
Speaker 3: of the things that bothered me with Hillary was not
Speaker 3: just the decision, which I disagree with, not not to go.
Speaker 3: Comey said, no reasonable prosecutor that's not true. They never
Speaker 3: in paneled a grand jury, they never did a search warrant.
Speaker 3: They let Hillary's staffers look at the emails, and so,
Speaker 3: you know, the weaponization is, you know, if they don't
Speaker 3: like you, they'll get you for jaywalking. But the flip
Speaker 3: side is, you know, if you're on the team, you
Speaker 3: get out of jail free.
Speaker 1: So that builds on.
Speaker 2: I wrote about this because I'm fat you and I
Speaker 2: are basically the same age.
Speaker 1: Washington Post, New York Times.
Speaker 2: Whatever you think of Bill Clinton, they went after him,
Speaker 2: guns blazing over Monica Lewinsky. Certainly, Watergate was before you
Speaker 2: and I were born, But they went after Nixon, and
Speaker 2: you lived through what they went after with Trump. Why
Speaker 2: do you think so many people Washington Post, New York Times,
Speaker 2: the allegations I just ran through, they're far more significant
Speaker 2: than the allegations I think against Trump or against Clinton,
Speaker 2: even back to Nixon. Why do you think they're giving
Speaker 2: Joe Biden such.
Speaker 1: A fair pass?
Speaker 3: Well, I think what happened was, you know, under with Clinton,
Speaker 3: the press was liberal, but they they did want stories
Speaker 3: and they wanted facts. Now we're in an air of
Speaker 3: narrative journalism, so it's all about what narrative they can spend.
Speaker 3: And so the Russia collusion, you know, while those allegations
Speaker 3: quote unquote, yeah, if someone was colluding with a foreign country,
Speaker 3: to that'ld.
Speaker 4: Beignificant, but there was never a basis for it.
Speaker 3: So and they knew there was never a basis for it,
Speaker 3: and they would launder anonymous sources to try to keep
Speaker 3: the feeding frenzy going. And it was like and the
Speaker 3: whole idea was to basically mobilize the intelligence and law
Speaker 3: enforcement federal communities against the sitting president or the aspiring
Speaker 3: president than the sitting president. And so it's just a
Speaker 3: massive abuse of power. So I think that their behavior
Speaker 3: in that really I think showed who these people are now,
Speaker 3: because not only were they furthering a false narrative, they
Speaker 3: turned a blind eye to all the abuse that was
Speaker 3: going on and they never cared about that. So what
Speaker 3: they're doing with Biden is just a continuation they want
Speaker 3: their narratives. This does not fit their narrative because they
Speaker 3: want to focus on Republicans and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: So I think it actually flows from how they behaved
Speaker 3: in Russia collusion. Because if Russia collusion, if the shoe
Speaker 3: were on the other foot, they would have never given
Speaker 3: that story a time of day.
Speaker 2: You mentioned media narratives. You're involved in a big media narrative.
Speaker 2: It's who's going to be the next president of the
Speaker 2: United States. How do you think the media is treating
Speaker 2: the Ron DeSantis campaign?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, look, and I'm not complaining about this. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it's actually somewhat of a good thing. You know,
Speaker 3: they do not want me to be the nominee. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's very clear.
Speaker 1: Why do you think they don't want you to be
Speaker 1: the nominate?
Speaker 3: They know I'd beat Biden, but I think even more
Speaker 3: importantly than that, they've seen what I've done in Florida
Speaker 3: to transform the state, and they're like, this guy would
Speaker 3: actually get this stuff done, and they don't want to
Speaker 3: see that. We don't want to see things like the
Speaker 3: administrative state unraveled. They don't want to see conservative policy
Speaker 3: implemented in any way. They don't want to see, you know,
Speaker 3: me fix the military, all these things that are really
Speaker 3: important to border. They don't want any of that. So
Speaker 3: they know that, and I think that that's there. So
Speaker 3: so their narrative is to try to ding me, and
Speaker 3: I think that's been the case, they've they've tried to
Speaker 3: take me out for years, starting with COVID. I mean
Speaker 3: it that was relentless, and you know, we just stood
Speaker 3: strong on that and basically you know, wrote it out.
Speaker 3: But then really as soon as I won reelection so big,
Speaker 3: they're like, oh my gosh, this guy, we got to
Speaker 3: deal with him. I mean it's been you know, constantly
Speaker 3: negative since then, for sure, even leading up to this,
Speaker 3: and now it's you know, whatever you do, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know this or that. So it's a sign of
Speaker 3: strength because if they didn't see me as somebody who
Speaker 3: was a threat, they would ignore me, they would not
Speaker 3: be so fixated. And I've been attacked by corporate press
Speaker 3: this year more than Biden has or more than Trump
Speaker 3: has in terms of their narratives. I mean, I've been
Speaker 3: the number one target on that, and I think you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes you know, there's a great static and so you
Speaker 3: don't want that in a campaign. On the one hand.
Speaker 3: On the other end, our voters do know, you know,
Speaker 3: who are their enemies. Yeah, one of their enemies is
Speaker 3: the corporate press. And if I am the one that.
Speaker 4: The corporate press fears, that will help me in the
Speaker 4: eyes of these voters.
Speaker 2: Another guy who's gotten attacked a lot. You mentioned COVID.
Speaker 2: RFK Junior. You guys would disagree on a lot across
Speaker 2: the policy perspectives. I think you would agree on a
Speaker 2: lot associated with COVID. You got ripped front page article
Speaker 2: in the Sunday New York Times about COVID my argument,
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 4: Which was just bizarre.
Speaker 3: I mean, like literally, they admit in the article Florida
Speaker 3: had lower age adjusted mortality than the national average they omitted,
Speaker 3: which they should have put. We had the lowest excess
Speaker 3: mortality in the Sun Belt, including less excess mortality than California.
Speaker 3: So that's just on the health stuff. And then what
Speaker 3: about economy, education, quality of life. Clearly they don't even
Speaker 3: want to discuss those because we were totally off the
Speaker 3: charts on all of that. And they tried to hit
Speaker 3: me on saying I wasn't forcing the vax on young people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was not doing that because it wasn't the
Speaker 4: right thing to do.
Speaker 1: They didn't need it.
Speaker 3: They didn't need it, and in some of them, we
Speaker 3: now see what the young men myocarditis and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So what they are attacking me for actually would have
Speaker 3: been bad health policy, and it's an inappropriate role of
Speaker 3: government to try to push this on people. So we
Speaker 3: were right on that, And especially when you had the
Speaker 3: vaxes rolled out in Florida, was all these voluntary A
Speaker 3: lot of people thought it was working for for the
Speaker 3: first four or five months, right, And I thought it
Speaker 3: was because COVID did go down in like May and
Speaker 3: June of twenty twenty one. Then you have this massive
Speaker 3: wave across the South, the delta. Those vaxes did not
Speaker 3: stop that wave, and there were enough people that.
Speaker 4: Had taken it.
Speaker 3: So at that point you got to look at that
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, how are you going to do? So
Speaker 3: we focused on treatment in Florida. I was rolling out
Speaker 3: these monoclonal antibody clinics whatever given people the ability to
Speaker 3: get treatment. That was a departure from the narrative as well,
Speaker 3: and I got attacked for doing that at the time.
Speaker 3: So their narratives on COVID they were so wrong on
Speaker 3: almost every issue. And the thing is is like, it's fine,
Speaker 3: you're wrong, but you go to some of these deep
Speaker 3: blue cities you will still see people walking outside with
Speaker 3: masks on and Phil, look, it's a free country.
Speaker 4: If that's what you like.
Speaker 3: But I can't help but think these people have had
Speaker 3: this put into their head. Then unless they're wearing a
Speaker 3: mask outside, that somehow they're going to get COVID and die.
Speaker 2: And that's not true. I was just on a college campus.
Speaker 2: My oldest son is at the University of Michigan doing
Speaker 2: a summer camp. I couldn't believe how many young people,
Speaker 2: a teenagers and twenty somethings were still wearing masks. When
Speaker 2: you see somebody who's a teenager or twenty something wearing
Speaker 2: a mask, what do you think?
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I just shake my head. But there's
Speaker 4: a reason they're doing it.
Speaker 3: Somebody has put that into their head that that's something
Speaker 3: that is going to be beneficial to them, and it's not.
Speaker 3: When COVID hit Florida, you know, we had you know,
Speaker 3: the kids came back to school or whenever for the
Speaker 3: university's July August of twenty twenty, and I put out
Speaker 3: the edict, don't touch their social lives, don't social distance
Speaker 3: these kids.
Speaker 4: Let them be kids.
Speaker 3: Oh, some of them are gonna get COVID. Yet you
Speaker 3: know what they are going to get COVID. You're going
Speaker 3: to see it. You're gonna see it, Spike, You're gonna
Speaker 3: see it go down. There's gonna be immunity, and none
Speaker 3: of them are gonna end up in the hospital. And
Speaker 3: that's exactly what ended up happening. But in the places
Speaker 3: where they tried to circumscribe people's freedoms, it was bad
Speaker 3: for kids' mental health, for their academic achievement, for their
Speaker 3: social development. And I developed the following in Florida a
Speaker 3: lot of the college kids because they're like, you saved
Speaker 3: our You saved our experience.
Speaker 4: And it's true, well not.
Speaker 1: Only that, also high school.
Speaker 2: You and I yet, when I was doing now kick
Speaker 2: the Coverage show, you said, not only are we going
Speaker 2: to open up schools. I remember a coming when you
Speaker 2: came on the show. You said, kids are gonna be
Speaker 2: able to play sports. And I think this is so
Speaker 2: important because you know you went to school. You know
Speaker 2: how many boys in particular stay in school so they
Speaker 2: can go play on spassing Exactly. They don't have that coach,
Speaker 2: they don't have that figure, they don't have that structure.
Speaker 1: They fall apart.
Speaker 2: You've seen that happen now all over the country because
Speaker 2: the New York Times, while they're also ripping you for
Speaker 2: COVID also will have a front page store. Sorry, hey,
Speaker 2: learning loss is not gotten recovered from all the schools
Speaker 2: that were shut down for so long.
Speaker 1: And so what I think is an interesting part.
Speaker 2: About this is they rip you, but you actually read
Speaker 2: the studies yourself exactly. You actually did the research, and
Speaker 2: so many other politicians just listen to the experts, and
Speaker 2: I want to give you a thesis here and see
Speaker 2: whether you buy it. What I saw happen that I
Speaker 2: found so infuriating was you would have somebody who's a
Speaker 2: CDC official, let's say the doctor Fauci's of the world,
Speaker 2: the Rashoe Wolinsky's. They would come out and give you
Speaker 2: a guidance, and then a politician would say, well, I'm
Speaker 2: going to follow the guidance of the experts.
Speaker 1: And then when the experts like.
Speaker 2: Fauci get called on it, they say, well, we never
Speaker 2: called for schools to shut down. So you have a
Speaker 2: circle where no one accepts responsibility for the decision. My
Speaker 2: thing is, you're elected as the governor. You're the ultimate
Speaker 2: decider in the state of Florida. Right, That's how the
Speaker 2: constitution works. But so many politicians out there pointed to
Speaker 2: the so called experts who got everything wrong. The experts said,
Speaker 2: we didn't do it. The politicians did. And it's like
Speaker 2: there's never been consequences or reckoning for all those people
Speaker 2: who got all those things wrong.
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing. I mean.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm in a situation where you elect me
Speaker 3: to be the executive. You elect others and other parts
Speaker 3: to be the executive. Nobody elected Fauci, Nobody elected these
Speaker 3: health bureaucrats, and so it's fine to confer and listen
Speaker 3: to what they're saying, but you ultimately have to make
Speaker 3: the decision. And I started when I was doing this
Speaker 3: because like literally three four weeks into COVID, I'm like,
Speaker 3: kids need to be in school.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on here.
Speaker 3: In Fauci publicly reprimand you know, he attacked me and saying, oh,
Speaker 3: kids are going to get infected and.
Speaker 1: They're going to die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I'm just like, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Sweden, I'm looking at all this stuff.
Speaker 3: We're making a big mistake here. And obviously we pivoted
Speaker 3: very quickly, but you know, so he's attacking and all
Speaker 3: this stuff. But I started looking back Dwight Eisenhower's farewell address.
Speaker 3: A lot of people remember it military industrial complex weren't,
Speaker 3: and that's a great warning. But if you read that,
Speaker 3: he talked about kind of in the post World War
Speaker 3: two era, you started to have this mingling of federal
Speaker 3: money and scientific research, and he said there's a danger
Speaker 3: given that power, that public policy could be captive to
Speaker 3: what he called a scientific technological elite. And he warned
Speaker 3: against that because he said, the job of a statesman
Speaker 3: is not to subcontract out to those people. Job of
Speaker 3: a statesman is to like listen, but listen to all
Speaker 3: different areas and harmonize all that for the greater good.
Speaker 3: So someone like Fauci, he did not care about your freedom,
Speaker 3: That was not anything he cared about. He didn't care
Speaker 3: about the viability of your small business. He didn't care
Speaker 3: about your kids' education, the jobs, none of that. All
Speaker 3: he was myopically focused on was this one virus. Which
Speaker 3: even if that was the only concern, he still failed
Speaker 3: with his prescription for that. But I'm sitting there saying, Okay,
Speaker 3: wait a minute. These people have a right to work,
Speaker 3: they have a right to do all that. So yeah,
Speaker 3: when we when we really pushed against him in the
Speaker 3: early part of COVID. I mean, I had the whole
Speaker 3: world come down on me, the corporate press, the left,
Speaker 3: the Democrats, a lot of Republicans even at the time
Speaker 3: were saying, you know, we were nuts, but I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: And I was getting hammered and I wasn't doing well,
Speaker 3: and people said, oh, he's never going to do politics anymore.
Speaker 3: He's done right. And then what happened. You know, a
Speaker 3: few months later, Florida was the place to be. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: your life's not good. Wherever go to Florida. I was
Speaker 3: the first place people thought, and we've never done better
Speaker 3: as a state as a result of that. But that
Speaker 3: would never have happened if I just said and you know,
Speaker 3: it's the politically easy thing to do, because you can
Speaker 3: say a business owner comes up to you saying like, hey,
Speaker 3: and I want to open my restaurant. Well, they're telling
Speaker 3: me I can't trust me. I want you to do
Speaker 3: it right, but they can't. So it was an easy
Speaker 3: way for them to pass the buck. And that's just
Speaker 3: not the way leadership is.
Speaker 2: What do you think would have happen if Andrew Gillham
Speaker 2: had won in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Florida would be like a New York or California, Illinois.
Speaker 3: There's no question it would have been. It would have
Speaker 3: been a California, Illinois New York style lockdown. The kids
Speaker 3: would have been out of school for the whole year
Speaker 3: because I know that because the teachers' union sued me
Speaker 3: because they wanted the school's clothes and.
Speaker 2: We'd beat And now Randy Winingarten is claiming that she
Speaker 2: always wanted to.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the biggest lies.
Speaker 3: They literally had a protest and I think she was there.
Speaker 3: But there's a bunch of union people in Florida where
Speaker 3: they were haranguing me, saying how dangerous it was, and
Speaker 3: the union would bring coffins and put coffins in front
Speaker 3: of the Florida Department of Education.
Speaker 2: I was on the beach in May of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: so when everything's shut down, I said, screw it. I've
Speaker 2: got a place on thirty A, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful places in the United States,
Speaker 2: by the way, maybe the best beaches, but we're full.
Speaker 1: Don't come down there.
Speaker 2: And I took my kids down there, and one of
Speaker 2: the guys who I think ran for Secretary of State
Speaker 2: in Florida as a Democrat, was walking around dressed as
Speaker 2: a grim reap.
Speaker 1: That's right on the beach, literally.
Speaker 2: While I was there with my kids on thirty A,
Speaker 2: you know, hanging out and enjoying the sun. But to
Speaker 2: your point, they now all claim that they never said
Speaker 2: what they did. And here's what's frustrating to me, and
Speaker 2: I bet it's super frustrating to you. You at least
Speaker 2: won by nineteen points, so that's a validation of some
Speaker 2: point of your leadership.
Speaker 1: Not one Kretchen Whitmer got reelected. Gavin Newsom got reelected.
Speaker 1: The only reason.
Speaker 2: Andrew Andrew Cuomo didn't get reelected because of a sex
Speaker 2: harassment scandal. It wasn't because of his failures with COVID.
Speaker 2: Not one incumbent governor lost in other than Nevada. Not
Speaker 2: one person actually bore the consequences of their poor decisions.
Speaker 1: If you got.
Speaker 2: Everything wrong on COVID and then your voter still voted
Speaker 2: for you, what does that tell us?
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think some of that as the Republican
Speaker 3: Party dropped the ball in some of those races.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the reality.
Speaker 3: There's not strong leadership and it's just you got it
Speaker 3: to beat an incumbent governor. It requires funding, it requires
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, and I don't know that they
Speaker 3: necessarily got that done, but I think part of it
Speaker 3: is in those states, the media gas lit.
Speaker 4: The media would portray this as necessary.
Speaker 3: So I think there was a resistance for some of
Speaker 3: these voters to admit that all this was for not.
Speaker 3: You know, wearing a mask for a year and a
Speaker 3: half was all for not. Their kids being at a
Speaker 3: school was all for not. I think that this human
Speaker 3: but as a matter of human nature, they wanted to
Speaker 3: believe that that made a difference. And I think that
Speaker 3: was more of their inclination rather than and some would
Speaker 3: say fight, you know, yeah, this was bad, But I
Speaker 3: do think there was some who were kind of following
Speaker 3: the guidance doing that, and I think they wanted to
Speaker 3: believe that that it wasn't all for not. And so
Speaker 3: by sticking with those governors, you know, that may be
Speaker 3: a way to acknowledge that they may have been right
Speaker 3: to follow it.
Speaker 2: Rand Paul has referred doctor Fauci for prosecution because he
Speaker 2: thinks he lied to Congress in fatis he did.
Speaker 4: I mean, are you kidding?
Speaker 3: Me with the gain of function research, with all these
Speaker 3: different things, how they sent that money to WU hand
Speaker 3: what they did to try to cover up the lab leak,
Speaker 3: because it was like, oh, it came from the lab.
Speaker 3: And then immediately Fauci's trying to hit it down behind
Speaker 3: the scenes, trying to say it was natural because they
Speaker 3: knew that they got caught red handed on this and
Speaker 3: it was reckless behavior, and he's made statements and so,
Speaker 3: and then of course it's like, where's the accountability for
Speaker 3: the damage you did to this country? And the fact
Speaker 3: of the matter is Fauci was elevated to kind of
Speaker 3: be the de facto ruler, where his pronouncement were viewed
Speaker 3: as like the gold standard, and so like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: was departing, but I mean I got hammered for doing that.
Speaker 3: A lot of elected officials didn't want to have to
Speaker 3: face that flack. And so he could go and say
Speaker 3: schools shouldn't be open, and that was license for all
Speaker 3: these school districts had just close in Florida. What I did,
Speaker 3: I used emergency powers. You know, the governors were using
Speaker 3: emergency powers to lock people down. I was using it
Speaker 3: to pry open the schools. And they That's one of
Speaker 3: the reasons they sued me. They said, you don't have
Speaker 3: the authority to do this, and honestly it was contested.
Speaker 3: But I'm not just gonna sit there and let these
Speaker 3: kids toil. So I'm like, I have authority. Here's what
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. You do And I knew once the
Speaker 3: kids got back in the parents would never let it
Speaker 3: close again.
Speaker 4: And so that that's what we did.
Speaker 2: If you were president, do you think Fauci should be prosecuted, Yes.
Speaker 3: I mean he's he is guilty of lying before Congress.
Speaker 3: I mean, give me a break now here. This raises
Speaker 3: an issue that you because when I look at kind
Speaker 3: of you know, how do you get good policy to
Speaker 3: stick whatever? What are kind of the pressure points. One
Speaker 3: of the problems we have in d C is if
Speaker 3: you're part of the swamp like they tried to do
Speaker 3: that guy. Durham tried to do that guy and prosecute him.
Speaker 3: Got quitted because he has to he has to be
Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. With an awful jury d C. Right,
Speaker 3: So the DC that area jury pool is people like
Speaker 3: Fauci would be protected in that. That'd be a huge,
Speaker 3: huge turtle. I'm not saying it's not justified to go ahead.
Speaker 3: But that'd be a huge turtle flip side. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're a Republican, you're jaywalking. Oh man, they're
Speaker 3: gonna they're gonna get you. They're gonna go after you.
Speaker 3: So so that that and what I think, what I've
Speaker 3: said that we should do is a defendant American defendant
Speaker 3: in d C should have the right to remove the
Speaker 3: case to their home district. So like if they tried
Speaker 3: to ding you, you can move it to Nashville and
Speaker 3: I get what is this middle district of Tennessee or
Speaker 3: in order to or something, So you could do that
Speaker 3: and then do it.
Speaker 1: And I just think, by the way, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna ding me for something.
Speaker 3: There you go, you never you never know, I know,
Speaker 3: you know that's it. Well, you know, if I get elected,
Speaker 3: we'll land weaponization.
Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about that. But yeah, that's
Speaker 4: the direction they're going.
Speaker 3: So you have so you have an imbalance and accountability
Speaker 3: where if you want to hold the swamp accountable, man,
Speaker 3: they have an ability to nullify that accountability.
Speaker 4: Very very bad.
Speaker 2: So that brings in We've talked about this, you've come
Speaker 2: on Clay and Buck as well. So you have a
Speaker 2: strong knowledge of the Constitution, right you graduate from Harvard
Speaker 2: Law School. Some people in politics really don't have that
Speaker 2: good of a knowledge. So Trump now is being prosecuted
Speaker 2: in New York City, He's going to have a super
Speaker 2: left wing jury there. There's no doubt he may well
Speaker 2: be prosecuted in Atlanta, going to be a left wing
Speaker 2: jury in Fulton County in Atlanta. He is going to
Speaker 2: be prosecuted in South Florida. And now it seems, and
Speaker 2: you probably know the data on this better than most,
Speaker 2: that that actually.
Speaker 1: Might be a fair jury pool.
Speaker 4: I think it will be.
Speaker 3: I think if it's in Fort Pierce Saint Lucie County,
Speaker 3: I think I want it by twenty points, so you
Speaker 3: will absolutely be able to have a fair representation.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's at least somewhat fair. DC would not
Speaker 2: be if Jack Smith's the GC is.
Speaker 3: The most unfair jury pool in America, because Fulton County
Speaker 3: seventy thirty yep, Manhattan's eighty twenty or eighty five fifteen,
Speaker 3: DC's like ninety eight to two. I mean, and especially
Speaker 3: when you're talking about anything related with the swamp, that
Speaker 3: is not fair. So that's why I think you remove
Speaker 3: that to home district, I think is fair. What we're
Speaker 3: going to do with DOJ when I go into end weaposition.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things you do, but one of
Speaker 3: the things we're going to do is also say, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's our authority visa VI some of these local areas.
Speaker 3: I think we're going to do civil rights against Soros
Speaker 3: prosecutors because if they're weaponizing their office to let criminals
Speaker 3: go and to go after political enemies, that's a civil
Speaker 3: rights violation. You have a right in the Constitution to
Speaker 3: live under republican form of government. That's not a republican
Speaker 3: form of government. So we're going to lean in on
Speaker 3: those folks because I think those local prosecutors are a huge,
Speaker 3: huge problem. You know, the DOJ is a massive problem.
Speaker 3: But if you go in there and spit nails and
Speaker 3: you're willing to upset the apple cart, you can change
Speaker 3: the direction of that. You know, I believe you can
Speaker 3: do it if you're a determined president. But these local folks,
Speaker 3: they get Soros cash, they get elected, and then they
Speaker 3: just run wild and that's not.
Speaker 4: The rule of law.
Speaker 1: What do you think happened to Merrick Garland.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting because he wasn't.
Speaker 2: For people out there who don't know, he wasn't a
Speaker 2: crazy zealog Well that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: So I look back and think he was always portrayed
Speaker 3: as a more moderate Is that wrong?
Speaker 4: It probably was. I mean I think that.
Speaker 1: If his rulings weren't like insane.
Speaker 4: But he was.
Speaker 1: But he was.
Speaker 3: He was an inferior court judge. He wasn't at the
Speaker 3: court of last resort. And what happens with these guys
Speaker 3: once they get on the Supreme Court on the left,
Speaker 3: they cow tell to the intelligentsia, to the corporate press,
Speaker 3: to to the law professors, and you look at how
Speaker 3: so you have Sodomayor and Jackson. They are like like
Speaker 3: they could be on MSNBC with their nonsense. I mean,
Speaker 3: it is really scary. Yeah, you know, Kagan is very liberal,
Speaker 3: but she I think at least tries to be, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, at least grounded her version of the law.
Speaker 3: The other two it's all political screeds, and so I
Speaker 3: think Garland probably would have been voting with them one
Speaker 3: hundred percent of the time. That being said, I do
Speaker 3: think that he's become more partisan because of he didn't
Speaker 3: get the Supreme Court's position.
Speaker 4: I do think that that's probably true.
Speaker 2: How do you think so he is You know that
Speaker 2: you went to law school. I went to law school.
Speaker 2: There are certain people who they love the law, right.
Speaker 2: I used to talk about this is their highest aspiration.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of other lawyers. They go to law school,
Speaker 2: like I would put myself in this category. I love
Speaker 2: the education. I knew that I didn't want to practice
Speaker 2: law for the rest of my life. Merrick Garland is
Speaker 2: a love the law person, right like he loves studying
Speaker 2: the law and everything else. I look at him and
Speaker 2: I wonder how does he sleep at night? Because what
Speaker 2: he's done. They talk about how Trump or you or
Speaker 2: somebody else is going to be an authoritarian dictator, right
Speaker 2: if you end up in power. Merrick Garland is trying
Speaker 2: to put the chief political adversary right now of his opponent,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, Donald Trump in prison for the rest of
Speaker 2: his life.
Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like.
Speaker 4: That, and what to see think?
Speaker 2: What do you think I can't imagine being him like
Speaker 2: and making that choice because I'm afraid and I'm curious
Speaker 2: what you think is with this weaponization nobody, you know,
Speaker 2: de escalates if once you set the opportunity of oh,
Speaker 2: I can put my chief political rival in prison. You're
Speaker 2: in Florida, Like, there's so many people who fled to
Speaker 2: Florida to try to avoid that, because it happens all
Speaker 2: over Banana republics in Latin America.
Speaker 1: How does he sleep at night? Like what's going on there? Well?
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, look with this DC case,
Speaker 3: I immediate's report. Who knows whether there will be one?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but if there is, I
Speaker 3: think it's likely going to be they're going to talk
Speaker 3: about everything that Donald Trump may have done, and they're
Speaker 3: going to find some statute and stretch it to try
Speaker 3: to do so. If you're going back to like a
Speaker 3: reconstruction statute, like violation conspiracy against rights they call it,
Speaker 3: and you're trying to apply it to that, you know,
Speaker 3: here's the thing. No one's above the If somebody who's
Speaker 3: been in high office robs a bank, we know that's
Speaker 3: a crime. You rob the bank, they prove it. You know,
Speaker 3: you have to pay the penalty. But when you contort
Speaker 3: like Bragg did, the law to try to fit conduct
Speaker 3: against somebody you don't like, that's kind of find me
Speaker 3: the man and I'll find you the crime kind of deal.
Speaker 3: And so so you know, if that's what's reported, I
Speaker 3: think these are going to be charges that are not
Speaker 3: traditional crimes. In other words, they're more obscure, and they're
Speaker 3: trying to be shoehorned in here because you know, quite frankly,
Speaker 3: the left is crazy about this stuff and they want
Speaker 3: to do it, and that's what we got it. So
Speaker 3: if you want to have a good justice system that
Speaker 3: people have confidence in, you will have straightforward criminal offenses,
Speaker 3: and particularly in a pretty politically charged environment, you will
Speaker 3: not charge novel offenses given the dynamics that are at play.
Speaker 3: And I think he's thrown that totally overboard, and we'll
Speaker 3: see if he's doing it.
Speaker 2: He could mean that if you were president and they try
Speaker 2: to prosecute Trump, maybe before the election even happens, that
Speaker 2: you would look at that. I think you said on
Speaker 2: our show before you'd look at pardoning all the January sixth.
Speaker 3: Well, my view, I mean with respect to like, you know,
Speaker 3: do we really think it's good for the country to
Speaker 3: have an almost eighty year old former president in prison?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Is that is that going to be good for us
Speaker 3: to come together. Yeah, you know, that's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know, there is divisions in this society, but there
Speaker 3: is some opportunity I think, to come together on some things.
Speaker 3: But it's like when all this is going on, that
Speaker 3: makes it very difficult. So you know, I look back
Speaker 3: at like like Nixon pardoning for it. He took a
Speaker 3: lot of heat for it, but I think it was
Speaker 3: the right decision to just move.
Speaker 4: The country beyond that.
Speaker 3: And you know, they could have tried to got a
Speaker 3: pound of flesh out of Nixon and it wasn't that
Speaker 3: Nixon was.
Speaker 4: Above the law.
Speaker 3: It was just weighing, how does that, you know, provide
Speaker 3: fissures to society, you know for this, But it's a
Speaker 3: type of thing where in terms of ending weaponization, I think,
Speaker 3: you know, wielding pardon power is definitely part of it.
Speaker 3: Clearing out the bureaucracy, I think. I mean, I'm one
Speaker 3: of the few I think candidates had said definitively, we'll
Speaker 3: have a new FBI director on day one, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: We'll have an attorney general with a big, big strong
Speaker 3: backbone who's.
Speaker 4: Going to fight all these people.
Speaker 3: We're going to probably parcel out parts of DOJ, so
Speaker 3: you know, you can send one part of it to
Speaker 3: maybe Tennessee or Arkansas or wherever. Because there's so much
Speaker 3: power that's been conglomerated in d C. I think a
Speaker 3: lot of the people probably wouldn't want to move to
Speaker 3: some of these places. So maybe it's more representative of
Speaker 3: America because we have in d C Department of Justice
Speaker 3: consolidated power, no oversight, no accountability, and ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: of them donate the donations.
Speaker 4: Are Democrats.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, so you may even be
Speaker 3: trying to use your power, but some of these people
Speaker 3: they just view like it's foreign of the way other
Speaker 3: people think, and that's very, very dangerous.
Speaker 2: Ford pardon Nixon because he was a statesman. Does Biden
Speaker 2: have any statesman like quality? No?
Speaker 3: No, No, he would not do it because his base
Speaker 3: would beat him alive.
Speaker 1: But sometimes don't you have to do what's right.
Speaker 3: But I think what we've seen with Biden he will
Speaker 3: not cross the base because he understands his hold on
Speaker 3: power is pretty tenuous just given his ineptity, dude, given
Speaker 3: his senility and all this stuff, and so he basically
Speaker 3: is just going to deliver for the base, and he
Speaker 3: would open himself up to potentially getting driven out of
Speaker 3: office on twenty fifth Amendment or something.
Speaker 4: So there is no way he would do that.
Speaker 3: And and that's why, you know, the stakes of the
Speaker 3: election for many respects, you know.
Speaker 4: Were high, but I think there's a high probability that
Speaker 4: would be out of the cards for him.
Speaker 2: Do you think if Hunter Biden's dad wasn't president, he'd
Speaker 2: be in jail?
Speaker 3: Yes? Well, let me say this, if he were a
Speaker 3: Republican and he was not connected to DC, he would, yes, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think for sure. And you know that's the thing
Speaker 3: he the lack of zealousness with all this information. You know,
Speaker 3: it's one thing. It's like, you know, if if they
Speaker 3: go after you and him the same yep, uh, then
Speaker 3: what are you going to do?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: But that's just not the way it is.
Speaker 3: I Mean, they get very very zealous when it comes
Speaker 3: to people they don't like.
Speaker 1: You mentioned bud Light a minute ago.
Speaker 2: I know that Disney has been on the battleground with you,
Speaker 2: and I got a quote. I don't know if officially,
Speaker 2: I know that the campaign put out a video, but
Speaker 2: Bob Iger told CNBC. The notion that Disney is in
Speaker 2: any way, sexualizing kid children, quite frankly, is preposterous and inaccurate.
Speaker 2: That's a quote from Bob Iger.
Speaker 3: Do you buy it well, I mean you saw they
Speaker 3: opposed the bill in Florida to not have sexuality and
Speaker 3: gender identity and grades K through three.
Speaker 4: And not only they oppose it.
Speaker 3: When we stared them down and I signed it, they said,
Speaker 3: it's going to be our mission to see that it's
Speaker 3: repealed in the legislature of the courts. So they're devoting
Speaker 3: corporate resources. They felt so strongly about kindergarteners being told
Speaker 3: that they may be born in the wrong body that
Speaker 3: they dedicated corporate resources to it. And then when that happened,
Speaker 3: those Zoom videos came out with those Disney executives saying
Speaker 3: they have an agenda to inject the sexuality in the
Speaker 3: youth programming. So that's just that is evidence that everyone's
Speaker 3: been able to see and look. The reality with that
Speaker 3: company is their own employees buying large sided with me.
Speaker 4: In Florida.
Speaker 3: Osceola County is where the majority of Disney employees live.
Speaker 3: I did better than any Republican has done in a generation,
Speaker 3: usually a blue county. I wanted by seven or eight percent.
Speaker 3: I did better in Orange County than Republican's done in
Speaker 3: a generation and all the surrounding.
Speaker 4: We did tremendous.
Speaker 3: Because you know, they are they are employees of Disney,
Speaker 3: because they believed in the original mission. Most of them
Speaker 3: believed in the original mission, and so it was not popular.
Speaker 3: I remember when they were when they were protests in
Speaker 3: US on this when the bill was coming up.
Speaker 4: There's a Disney is going to do a big protest.
Speaker 3: So like you know, the Burbank people were out protesting Orlando.
Speaker 3: There were news crews with helicopters and there was like
Speaker 3: one guy and he had a mask on and he
Speaker 3: had like a sign that says like trans lives matter
Speaker 3: or something like that, Like one guy, and that just
Speaker 3: shows you. So they were way out of step with that,
Speaker 3: and I think it's hurt their company in terms of
Speaker 3: in terms of what's happened with their share price. The
Speaker 3: people going to the parks their movies intentionally are trying
Speaker 3: to pursue an agenda, a social agenda in very different ways.
Speaker 4: That's not where the market is.
Speaker 3: The market wants you to do traditional stuff, and particularly
Speaker 3: for parents with children, I don't want to have to
Speaker 3: like watch it to to you know, we have to
Speaker 3: turn it off because they're trying to do a message.
Speaker 3: Used to be you watch the cartoons, they're cartoons, and
Speaker 3: that's kind of like a safe space for parents. Now
Speaker 3: parents feel like even some of the trusted names of
Speaker 3: the past you can't trust.
Speaker 2: And you grew up in Florida. I'm sure you went
Speaker 2: to Disney World growing up. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I know you got married. I think at Disney World
Speaker 1: we got married.
Speaker 3: And the thing was was, you know, I was I
Speaker 3: was still in the Navy, my way, and I was
Speaker 3: in you know, northeast Florida, and I thought we would
Speaker 3: end up doing Panavidra Beach because you know whatever. And
Speaker 3: she came to my wife came one day, she's like,
Speaker 3: what do you think about Disney? Like, what do you
Speaker 3: mean when I think about Disney stick for the wedding.
Speaker 3: I was like, do they do weddings like you could
Speaker 3: do like Cinderell's catch. She's like, no, they have a
Speaker 3: child and it actually is very nice. Her parents were
Speaker 3: big Disney people, so they suggested it and that's what
Speaker 3: they wanted to do, and so we did.
Speaker 1: We were getting married. You probably did not have a
Speaker 1: lot of say in many of the da.
Speaker 4: What I told her is I was like, look, this
Speaker 4: is your day.
Speaker 3: Like I am very low maintenance, but I am drawing
Speaker 3: the line no Donald Duck at the wedding, like we
Speaker 3: cannot have these characters. And it was a traditional If
Speaker 3: you see our wedding pictures, it's it's a church. I
Speaker 3: gets no different than anything like that. So it's you know,
Speaker 3: we did that. And so this is two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: And then just thinking forward, like however many years later,
Speaker 3: ten fifteen years later, we'd end up in this and this.
Speaker 2: Curve flo My point on it is there's this idea
Speaker 2: that you have somehow picked the fight with Disney. No.
Speaker 1: And I want to just emphasize this for our audience.
Speaker 2: You opened and fought to get Disney World open, like
Speaker 2: a year before Gavin Newsom was willing to open them.
Speaker 3: They made a fortune in Florida because of you. We
Speaker 3: did because you fought for them to be able to
Speaker 3: run that. In fact, I remember Disney they could have
Speaker 3: even opened earlier. I was telling them to open. In fact,
Speaker 3: I told them not to close. Because you know I
Speaker 3: didn't close them. They called me and said, hey, we're
Speaker 3: going to close a few days. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not that may be rash. I
Speaker 3: was like, you may want to think that stupid, that's
Speaker 3: what they want to do. And they waited law they
Speaker 3: were more cautious. Universal SeaWorld open like a month and
Speaker 3: a half before Disney did. But they they opened, and
Speaker 3: then you know, we had our first kind of summer
Speaker 3: COVID wave, and I remember the CEO called me.
Speaker 4: He's like, he's like, you know, do you want us
Speaker 4: to stop?
Speaker 3: I'm like no, I was like, we have to live
Speaker 3: with this, Okay, we can't just run and hide. You
Speaker 3: have people's jobs at stake, you know, families want to
Speaker 3: come with their kids and all that. And so we
Speaker 3: did it, and and they they did very very well.
Speaker 3: And I remember like throughout all that time leading up
Speaker 3: to the to the parents' rights and education debate, they
Speaker 3: would always say.
Speaker 4: Like, man, we wish we had you in California.
Speaker 3: You know that, even like their burd Bank executives, because
Speaker 3: it was like, we were so reasonable and we wanted
Speaker 3: them to succeed because we knew jobs were at stake
Speaker 3: and the economy and everything like that. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think that they they had high regard
Speaker 3: for me. And here's the thing. We have the best
Speaker 3: business climate in America. Our economy is ranked number one
Speaker 3: by CNBC, which is not a fan of mine. But
Speaker 3: they had they had to admit that. And so them
Speaker 3: living under the same laws as you universal in SeaWorld
Speaker 3: like good, like you know you you have a great
Speaker 3: chance to do well. And and they're just not. They
Speaker 3: don't want that. They want to have their own, their
Speaker 3: own ability to govern themselves apart from society.
Speaker 2: Well, what I think is so interesting about it we
Speaker 2: were talking about narratives earlier, is they threw the first
Speaker 2: punch at you, of course, and now most in the
Speaker 2: media are like, why is Ron DeSantis going after Disney? Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, are you just supposed to take a punch.
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but then this year, so we
Speaker 3: we had the fight in twenty twenty two. We said
Speaker 3: were you know, you're your self governing status and ending
Speaker 3: you're gonna live treated You're gonna live under the same laws.
Speaker 3: You don't get special laws, special tax breaks. And that
Speaker 3: was just because the legislature, the support for that collapse.
Speaker 3: It was outmoded, It was not justifiable. On the marriage
Speaker 3: it was massive egregious corporate welfare. But Disney had been
Speaker 3: so powerful that no one questioned it, So so we
Speaker 3: did that. Then what happened was February of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: as the state is taking control because you know, are
Speaker 3: our board's gonna have to wind it down, the bonds
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. Disney executed with itself these covenants
Speaker 3: saying no one can do anything, and so that was
Speaker 3: like a big middle finger to the Florida legislature. They're
Speaker 3: the ones that did that. And so then we said, no,
Speaker 3: we're gonna these are not valid. The board rejected it,
Speaker 3: the legislature rejected it, and so they're saying we're going
Speaker 3: after Disney, but they're the ones that tried to basically
Speaker 3: veto a bill passed by the Florida legislature, and then
Speaker 3: Disney sued us and all that stuff. All that being said,
Speaker 3: you know, we won the battle on parents Bill of Rights.
Speaker 3: Disney is not going to get their government back, their
Speaker 3: own government back, and so we're gonna win on that
Speaker 3: lawsuit and that'll probably be decided sometime this summer.
Speaker 2: Just a couple more for you here, we'll finish off.
Speaker 2: I hope people have enjoyed this. This has been I
Speaker 2: think I bet you've kind of enjoyed sometimes getting to
Speaker 2: talk in a form we're not getting cut off. If
Speaker 2: you've now fired significant number of staff members two months
Speaker 2: into the campaign, Iowa's December January fifteenth, how would you
Speaker 2: assess the status of your campaign?
Speaker 1: Do you expect to win Iowa on January three?
Speaker 3: I think Iowa's great, And I think what we realize
Speaker 3: on this is, you know, we had a campaign for
Speaker 3: a nationwide election, which which will happen eventually, but that's
Speaker 3: not how the primaries are. So we're shifting resources to
Speaker 3: the early states. We don't need to have you know,
Speaker 3: we don't need to be too top heavy in Tallahassee,
Speaker 3: So Iowa and Hampshire, South Carolina. You know we're going
Speaker 3: to be spending the vast majority of our time in
Speaker 3: those three states. I think everyone would acknowledge Iowa we
Speaker 3: have the best ground game by far. Right now, we're
Speaker 3: going to win in Iowa. I mean, like we've got
Speaker 3: to earn it. I mean, you know, if I if
Speaker 3: I thought I had it in the bag, then I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: We have to earn it. But I think we've got
Speaker 3: a great path there and then New Hampshire a little
Speaker 3: bit different than Iowa, but I think the voters in
Speaker 3: both of those states they want to kick the tires.
Speaker 3: They want to see you, and there'll be people that
Speaker 3: will say like, oh, you know, what do you think
Speaker 3: of the governor? Well, you know, I like him, but
Speaker 3: I've only met him one time, and so like, that's
Speaker 3: what you have to do.
Speaker 4: So we're going to be on the ground.
Speaker 3: We're going to be on the ground two days in
Speaker 3: Iowa this week and then four days in New Hampshire
Speaker 3: through the weekend and into the early part of next week.
Speaker 3: I think we're doing a town hall with newsmaxs. We're
Speaker 3: doing a bunch of different but that's really is. It's
Speaker 3: just it's a recognition that you want the resources applied
Speaker 3: where the delegates are allocate. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: you're winning a majority of the delegates.
Speaker 4: That's the goal.
Speaker 3: It's not a nationwide vote, it's a state by state vote,
Speaker 3: and you need to have an organization to reflect that.
Speaker 2: Number One question I get asked on our show Clay
Speaker 2: and Buck walking around, people say I want Trump as president,
Speaker 2: I want a Scantists to be as vice president.
Speaker 1: Your response when you hear that is.
Speaker 4: What would you take it? If a huffer to you?
Speaker 3: I like the jobs that I got, Ready, you go, yeah, No, Look,
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, you know
Speaker 3: I'm running run for president to beat Biden. You know
Speaker 3: I'm reliable, I reflect the values of our voters, and
Speaker 3: I will deliver on all this stuff. I've shown ability
Speaker 3: to do that in Florida doing number two. I mean, it
Speaker 3: just doesn't appeal to me, and I don't think I
Speaker 3: would be good at it, and I think I'm probably
Speaker 3: you know, more valuable doing other things. But you know,
Speaker 3: some people run for president because they want a cabinet
Speaker 3: position or VP all that, or TV contribut leadership.
Speaker 4: I'm not that.
Speaker 3: I don't want VEEP. I don't want cabinet. I don't
Speaker 3: want to be on, you know, a contributor. I'm running
Speaker 3: to win, and that's the only reason I'm running. And
Speaker 3: so we'll we'll either do it or not.
Speaker 2: I remember I asked you, I mentioned RFK Junior earlier
Speaker 2: in the fact that you might overlap if Trump picked R.
Speaker 2: FK Junior as a potential vice presidential candidate. Crazy idea.
Speaker 2: If you were president, would you cons if you were
Speaker 2: the nominee, would you consider R.
Speaker 1: FK. Junior as a running mace.
Speaker 3: Here here's the issue, Like, I'm aligned with him on
Speaker 3: fauciep and the corruption and the health bureaucracies one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And I think he's probably done so said some other
Speaker 3: things that I agree with too.
Speaker 4: But the end of the.
Speaker 3: Day, you know, he's more liberal, very you know, very
Speaker 3: liberal on some I mean he used to say, I
Speaker 3: don't if he still believes this that you know, if
Speaker 3: you deny climate change, you should go to jail, things
Speaker 3: like that. So it's like conservative voters, you know, they
Speaker 3: would want those positions flushed out. And my and you
Speaker 3: know he opposed the affirmative action ruling to say, you know,
Speaker 3: you can't racially discriminate on that, he would have wanted
Speaker 3: that to remain. So I just think at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, you know, you need somebody that's gonna
Speaker 3: reflect the values of the broad coalition. Yes, the medical stuff,
Speaker 3: I'm very good on that, So that does appeal to me,
Speaker 3: But there's a whole host of other things that he'd
Speaker 3: probably be out of step with and so on that regard.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, if you're president, you know, sick him
Speaker 3: on the FDA if he'd be willing to serve or
Speaker 3: sick him on CDC. But in terms of being veep,
Speaker 3: if there's you know, seventy percent of the issues that
Speaker 3: he may be averse to our base on, you know,
Speaker 3: that just creates an issue.
Speaker 1: You're gonna stick with the Bucks now the Brady's.
Speaker 4: Going, I will, but my son is, uh, he's gonna
Speaker 4: stay with the Jacks.
Speaker 3: He'sa Jags and you know, he also is interested in
Speaker 3: going to a Dolphins game at some point. So I
Speaker 3: think Dolphins gonna be pretty good too. So you're gonna
Speaker 3: have You're gonna have two teams that I think there's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of excitement about.
Speaker 4: And I'll just grin and beart.
Speaker 3: Look, I was a Bucks fin when they had the
Speaker 3: orange uniforms, and so I don't know that.
Speaker 4: They're gonna do great next year, but we're good in
Speaker 4: the day.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's gonna be as bad as
Speaker 3: you know, going to that old Sombrero and having those
Speaker 3: you know, his orange uniforms and then just getting the
Speaker 3: ass kicked by any team that rolled in there. And
Speaker 3: that that's the eighties and early nineties until until Tony
Speaker 3: Dungee came. It was basically really tough sled in you
Speaker 3: know most years for the Bucks, and then Tony kind
Speaker 3: of got him. And then Gruden came in and put
Speaker 3: him over the top for the super Bowl, which was
Speaker 3: that was an exciting thing. We never thought that would
Speaker 3: happen in Tampa. I can tell you that one of the.
Speaker 2: Big last questions for you, I think, I said last question.
Speaker 2: One of the challenges I think that you're probably finding
Speaker 2: when you're going out and going around.
Speaker 1: Is people don't know you that well.
Speaker 2: Right, They're trying you mentioned people now New Hampshire actually
Speaker 2: want to meet you more than one time, right to
Speaker 2: decide what do you wish voters knew about you that they.
Speaker 3: Don't well one, I mean, just my background is you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a blue collar kid. My parents were working class.
Speaker 3: I worked minimum wage jobs to be able to get
Speaker 3: get into school. Do all that put myself in a
Speaker 3: position to succeed. I ended up did earned degrees from
Speaker 3: Yell and Harvard Law School. But I made the decision
Speaker 3: that in a post nine to eleven world, you gotta serve,
Speaker 3: you gotta wear the uniform. So I volunteered, volunteered to
Speaker 3: serve in Iraq alongside Seal Team one, and do all
Speaker 3: these other things. And I think it's just when you're
Speaker 3: running for president. I think people want to know. It's like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: why are you doing this? Is this about you or
Speaker 3: is about us the people? And I think my track
Speaker 3: record kind of where I came from, my belief in
Speaker 3: the American dream, and my you know, uh desire to
Speaker 3: restore it a service to the country. I think they
Speaker 3: can look at it and say, you know what, this
Speaker 3: guy's in it for the right reasons. He wants to
Speaker 3: do something by running for president. He's not trying to
Speaker 3: be somebody by running for president.
Speaker 2: It's Florida Governor Ronda Santis. And people want to want
Speaker 2: to know more about your campaign. Where should they go?
Speaker 3: Just go to our website at Rondiysantis dot com Rondeysantis
Speaker 3: dot com and you can also text freedom to five one.
Speaker 4: Two three four five.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the time, Thanks, thanks for coming to Nashville. YEP.