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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry and this is

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Speaker 1: Stuff you should Know, the pre Halloween Spooktacular week of

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Speaker 1: dark content. Although this isn't super dark. No, this isn't

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Speaker 1: you know about attractions? Haunted attractions? Right? Dark? Thank? I

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Speaker 1: don't want to spoil it, but there are some darkness. Now,

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Speaker 1: is it dark or not? It's dark, okay, but not

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Speaker 1: all of them, just just the really creepy ones. So

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Speaker 1: it's mid mid level dark. What a train wreck this is.

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Speaker 1: So for those of you who tuned in thinking they

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Speaker 1: were talking about haunted houses, sorry to let you down.

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Speaker 1: Real haunted houses, uh, of which there may or may

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Speaker 1: not be a thing. All the skeptics were like, shoot,

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Speaker 1: this is just about attractions. Yeah, these things are proven

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Speaker 1: to exist. They are real because you can probably if

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Speaker 1: you live near any kind of major metropolitan area, you

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Speaker 1: can probably find one somewhere in your town. I think

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Speaker 1: you can find them almost anywhere. If you live in

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Speaker 1: a major metropolitan area, that maybe one of those really

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Speaker 1: big daddy ones. But chances are your small town has

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Speaker 1: some form of haunted attraction, even if it's the local Uh,

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Speaker 1: if it's for charity and they're trying to raise money

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Speaker 1: for the local j c's and it's set up in

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Speaker 1: like a school gymnasium, or there's enthusiasts home haunters, um,

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Speaker 1: and they will they basically set up a haunted house

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Speaker 1: in their backyard. Yeah, there's some documentary about two guys

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Speaker 1: that are I don't know if they do haunted houses

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Speaker 1: or just take their Halloween um decorating two extremes. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that's one and the same for a home haunter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they're they're competing guys on the same street

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Speaker 1: that uh someone did a documentary on because they just

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Speaker 1: keep like ramping it up and ramping it up, have

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Speaker 1: become obsessed without doing one another. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's called. So it just came to me right now.

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Speaker 1: Me either, But um, you do make a good point

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Speaker 1: how haunted houses are everywhere. Apparently in two thousand fourteen,

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Speaker 1: they expect they being the American Retail Federation who likes

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Speaker 1: to put out statistics and figures about holidays, Um, they

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Speaker 1: expect thirty three million people to go into haunted houses

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Speaker 1: across the United States. Yeah, about four thousand of them,

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred of which are the pay some money to

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Speaker 1: go in professionally, uh, about three or in theme parks

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Speaker 1: like you know, like amusement parks. And then about three

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Speaker 1: thousand of them are the charity ones that I spoke of, right,

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Speaker 1: which you'll still pay. But they they're not they're not

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Speaker 1: going to the fat cat Coke Brothers or whatever. The

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Speaker 1: profits aren't. They're going to you know, your local community organism. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and those are fun, you know, you might get some

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Speaker 1: light scares, it's not like these, um, the really super

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Speaker 1: scary ones where you pay good money to um, you know,

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Speaker 1: to leave your body and wet your pants. Just one more,

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Speaker 1: one more, um, little bit of of data statistics. You

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Speaker 1: don't mind some numbers, talk about roll over ifs. Remember

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Speaker 1: you used to be static guy, And I know I

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Speaker 1: got so bored it. Um. In two fourteen, again, the

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Speaker 1: National Retail Federation expects Americans to spend eighty seven dollars

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Speaker 1: per person on Halloween, for a total of seven point

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Speaker 1: four billion dollars. Yeah, that's right behind Christmas, right behind Christmas.

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Speaker 1: People love getting their scare on. They really do. I

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Speaker 1: don't decorate at all anymore at the house, just because

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Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this before. We don't have

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Speaker 1: trick or treaders on my area of the street, so

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Speaker 1: it just seems kind of pointless. Oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what is the point at that point? There

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Speaker 1: is no point. Emily thinks we could do it for

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Speaker 1: people that drive by during the month of October, like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta whatever you put up, you gotta

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Speaker 1: take down that. And plus it's like you get no

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Speaker 1: satisfaction from somebody driving by. Sound like they hank at

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Speaker 1: your generations with little kids coming up and trick or treating,

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Speaker 1: there's some sort of payoff I guess, to your your effort, right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, scarring him for life? Right. So, um, let's

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Speaker 1: as new as trick or treating in the United States?

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Speaker 1: Did you know that? Not as new? So they predate

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Speaker 1: trick or treating by a little bit. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: when I read some of this history, the ancient history

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Speaker 1: in like ancient Egypt. To keep people from grave robbing. Basically,

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Speaker 1: go behold the ravages of aids. What's that from the Simpsons? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Greeks and Romans? Um. Uh kind of paved the way

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Speaker 1: as well. They had um mazes and labyrinths set up

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Speaker 1: with monsters and things. Even more than that, even more directly,

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Speaker 1: they started stage effects, yeah, like fake blood and things

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Speaker 1: theater when you come down to it. It's just like

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Speaker 1: an interactive participatory theater, right that you walk through and

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Speaker 1: then the the dark ages that medieval ages I think

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Speaker 1: Dark Ages, but they're not one and the same. But

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Speaker 1: during the Dark Ages, UM, the the introduction of well,

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Speaker 1: the syncretism between Christianity and Paganism that led to the

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Speaker 1: adoption of Halloween, UM kind of saw rise to this, uh,

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Speaker 1: basically a scare show. Yeah, these little plays that would

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Speaker 1: scare people into remaining pious and remaining on the narrow path, right,

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Speaker 1: But these these scare shows, if you want to call

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Speaker 1: them that, I'm pretty sure that's not what they call

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Speaker 1: them during the Dark Ages, but they were. They featured

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Speaker 1: John Pepper invented something, um pretty neat in the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: but it still looks pretty awesome. That's right. The twentieth century, then, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: Beha McKendry. He says that Orton and Spooner, the Orton

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Speaker 1: as we understand today. What you've already mentioned the Haunted

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Speaker 1: Mansion that that was first built in nineteen sixty nine

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Speaker 1: like a whole episode on the Haunted Mansion Ride. Oh,

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Speaker 1: she knows more about it than Walt Disney. Um. Originally,

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Speaker 1: your layout I guess to an extent. Yeah, Like, if

423
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: you're doing scary clowns. You're probably gonna have to get

424
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: rid of your O R setting or whatever unless you

425
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: do a clown doing surgery, which is kind of scary,

426
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: but it just seems a little off. Yeah, clown doing surgery,

427
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: that's just um, that'd be pretty scary. The clown hospital. Yeah, yeah,

428
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: well don't they have that children's hospital has a clown character.

429
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking about, Quardrey. Yeah. Um. And by

430
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: the way, this is written by Kristen Konger from Stuff

431
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: Mom Never Told You, and she actually interviewed a few

432
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: owners of haunted houses to get some good inside poop

433
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: and um, that's where we're like getting these numbers and

434
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: they say to open one up. I was just making mine,

435
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: not oh you are Um, they said to open one up.

436
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: You're not only obviously it's it's a fun job, but

437
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: you've got to have a lot of business acumen too.

438
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: It's not just like, oh, this will be a hoot,

439
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Like you've got to be super focused in and have

440
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: a good business brain or you're not gonna make any money.

441
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 1: Plus also, um, safety is a big, big deal, especially

442
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: after a fateful event in at six Flags Great Adventure

443
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, there was They had a seventeen trailer

444
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: interconnected modular haunted house dark ride basically but a walking

445
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: dark ride. So it was a haunted house. Um and

446
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: it was basically a fire trap and it went up

447
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: and eight teenagers got trapped inside and died in the fire.

448
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: There were no fire sprinklers, there were no obvious, um

449
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: emergency exit signs or anything like that, and um, as

450
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: that's what happened back then. Yeah, but you'd think like

451
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: by the time the eighties rolled around, people would have

452
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: figured out, oh, if somebody likes the man each in

453
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: here or doesn't put their cigarette out, because again, it's

454
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: the eighties, so people smoked everywhere. The whole thing's gonna

455
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: go up because it's all plywood and foam, and maybe

456
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: we should put fire sprinklers in. But apparently it took

457
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: this tragedy to really change the industry, but it did. Yeah,

458
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: and safety is, like you said, a huge, huge part

459
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: of it. Because you're in the dark. You've got things

460
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: flying out and props swooping down and people jumping out

461
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: and uh, I mean, anything can happen to go wrong

462
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: and someone can get injured. So yeah, and actually, did

463
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: you hear about the girl in two eleven. There's an

464
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: employee at one of the ones outside of St. Louis

465
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: called Creepy World, and um, she worked there and somehow

466
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: got caught in a noose and accidentally hung herself. That

467
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: sounds like a story that you hear, you would think,

468
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: so it is so well documented that it actually did happen.

469
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm quite sure. But she survived. Um, she suffered some

470
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: brain damage to it to an extent from what I understand,

471
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: And um, I don't know if it was extensive or not.

472
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm on a roller coaster of emotion, right, but she,

473
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, she did survive. But she she accidentally got

474
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: caught in the nuise and hung herself. And it's possible

475
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: some patrons passer by thinking that she was like that's

476
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: what was supposed to be going on. Yeah, I've I've

477
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: heard some story that is not that of someone who

478
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: hung themselves on Halloween and everyone thought it was a

479
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: just a decoration in the front yard. My friend, you

480
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: need to go watch the most recent Don't Be Dumb.

481
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: It comes out this week. Is it about that? Yes?

482
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Is that an old well, don't spoil it. Okay, people

483
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: should go watch it. Go watch. Don't be dumb about

484
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: that man, ask and tell him Josh that you Um, so,

485
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: after you've got your safety system worked out, You've got

486
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: your fire safety, got your sprinkler system, you've got flame

487
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: retardant material, you've got camera set up everywhere, everyone assigned

488
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: a lengthy waiver. Even if they do get hurt, um,

489
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: they could probably still try and see you, but you're

490
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: trying to avoid that at all costs. What you're gonna

491
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: have is some sort of amaze like structure where you're

492
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: walking around sort of lost but really just getting shuffled

493
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: along a path. And there's, like you said earlier, there's

494
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: this thing called through put. So there's a lot of

495
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: thought put into it because apparently the worst thing you

496
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: can do in a haunted house, and this makes sense,

497
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: is to let the group behind catch up to the

498
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: group ahead. Yeah, that ruins the whole thing, ruins everything

499
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: because you're in a group. It depends, but I don't

500
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: know six or right people. But and you don't want

501
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: the scare that already happened to be apparent to the

502
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: group that hasn't gotten there yet. Like you see the

503
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: chainsaw guy crawling back into his little tree, right exactly.

504
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: So UM this throughput is basically a calculation of how

505
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: many people you can push through at what intervals to say,

506
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: meet your nightly ticket quota. So the numbers that Conger

507
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: gives UM is to to get five people through in

508
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: a night you and put a group of six. You

509
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: can set them out every thirty seconds and they shouldn't

510
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: bump into one another. And then one of the ways

511
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: that that UM employees make sure that these groups don't

512
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: bump into one another is the way that they scare people. Yeah,

513
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: it's called scaring forward, which makes sense. It does. It's

514
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: kind of interesting, boring term UM. But what they're doing

515
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: is usually jumping behind you as you walk through the

516
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: group to make you go in a forward They don't

517
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: want to jump out in front of you and have

518
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: you move in the in the direction you just came

519
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: from backward. Yeah, so they want to scare you forward.

520
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: And that is a little tip. If you are not

521
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: into being the the lead person being scared, then you

522
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: should be in the lead because it's probably gonna come

523
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: from behind you. It's pretty counterintuitive, but I think I'm

524
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: going to be in the back and I'll be just fine. Yeah,

525
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: you're the one that's gonna get grabbed because if they

526
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: jump out at the front of the group again, it's

527
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna push the group backward, and the group ahead is

528
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: going to run into the group behind, and that's very bad. Yeah,

529
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: and I say get grabbed, you probably won't get touched. Now,

530
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: there apparently are some haunted house attractions that do light touching.

531
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: But you're going to be fully informed. That's so crazy.

532
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: He really does light touching. You're gonna be fully informed,

533
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna you're not gonna not know that

534
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: it's coming. Like in line, they're going to be like

535
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: signed this an initial here, an initial here, an initial here,

536
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you a heart attach test first,

537
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: just to make sure please step on this treadmill that

538
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: kind of thing. See, that's how I would really scare

539
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: people to say, you know, none of the actors are

540
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: allowed to touch anyone, so if you're getting touched, I

541
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: mean something has gone horribly wrong. Right, And then have

542
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: people well, well we'll get to in a minute, um,

543
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: the new extreme ones where there's not only touching, like

544
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: it's beyond anything that you could imagine. But we'll get

545
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: to that soon. Uh. And since we mentioned actors hiding. Uh.

546
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Those are called scare pockets. Yeah, where they hide jump

547
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: out from. Yeah. So like they're hiding behind that tree,

548
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: and they may distract you with a bat swooping down

549
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: in the other direction. There's a lot of distraction going

550
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: on because what they don't want is you to be

551
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: focused on the clearly placed fox tree trunk that has

552
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: the smell of a chainsaw. Yeah, but there won't be

553
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: any blade on that chainsaw, by the way. No. And

554
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: a good actor also will scramble back into place very quickly. Yeah. Um.

555
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: Because the longer they hang out and they're like yeah, right,

556
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: the more you're gonna be like you're just some teenager, yeah,

557
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: who doesn't scare me. Yeah. And if you're looking to

558
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: save a little money, you might want to double up

559
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: and have that scare pocket have a couple of different

560
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: ways that it can go. Like I can jump out

561
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: on these people on the right who are in this

562
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: one part of the hunted house. Now I can scramble

563
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: back and then hit these people on the left, not

564
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: hit them, jump out and scare them. Um. And that

565
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: way you're saying a little dough with your actors. Yeah,

566
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: double or tippling your people and then apparently chuck. Lastly, Um,

567
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the attractions are run on compressed air

568
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: that is set off either through motion sensors, which I

569
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: think everybody expects, but also through touch pads, which makes

570
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: sense because you can control that right well with a

571
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: with a motion sensor, every group is going to set

572
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: off that effect at right, And what it does is

573
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: it opens the valve and all of a sudden, the

574
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: skeleton sits up in the coffin or comes out from

575
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: the side or something exactly right. Um, that was a

576
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: really good impression with a touch pad. Though, if you say,

577
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: place the square off to the left or something, not

578
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: every group is going to walk over the touch pad,

579
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: so not every group is going to get the same

580
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: set of scare. So it kind of randomizes the thing,

581
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: which in turn makes the whole experience even more frightening,

582
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: because if you hear the group ahead at the curve

583
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: scream and scream exactly when you get to that, you're

584
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna be prepared and if nothing happens, well, then, my friend,

585
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: you're just even more keyed up for the next one.

586
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, and you're keyed up to begin with

587
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: walking in there because a good haunted house will put

588
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of money into getting you all ramped

589
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: up in the parking lot in the line that we

590
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: might have creeps dressed up roaming around. Uh, they may

591
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 1: have sound effects and spooky music and like an airhorn blast,

592
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: which is really uncool, and that's just got you on edge.

593
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: By the time you walk in that place, you're ready

594
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: to be scared. Um alright, chuck, Yeah, we've teased it enough.

595
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about extreme haunted houses, which apparently are so

596
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: extreme that people who are haunted house enthusiasts, like people

597
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: who are like in the industry, don't even like these

598
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: things to be called extreme haunted houses because they're so extreme. Yeah,

599
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: that's what I gather. And these are to say these

600
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: are interactive, is uh not really putting a fine point

601
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: on it. They are. You're basically paying money to be

602
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: treated like an assault victim for up to seven hours,

603
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: like you might be put in a headlock. You might

604
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: where's the one there's one in San Diego? Yeah. Uh.

605
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: McCamy manner is renowned as like the worst of the worst.

606
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: The video that I saw it was like you are

607
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: like covered in blood, dude. It was unbelievable put into

608
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: like a coffin, and somebody is like in their writing

609
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: on top of you in the dark, and you're trying

610
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: to get out and they're pulling you back in and

611
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: and just like it's insane, how intense this thing looks. Yeah,

612
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: they had a cage that locks your head in that

613
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: they're dropping like fake snakes in, which is not as

614
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: bad as life snakes, but it's still pretty bad. And

615
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: apparently the the the catchphrase of everybody who goes through

616
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: these things is let me out of here. Is that

617
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: they shout or cry it. Well, yeah, but apparently supposedly

618
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: McCamy manner, it's open year round and they only take

619
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: four people a day through this thing, but like you said,

620
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: it's up to seven hours long in some cases, right, yeah,

621
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: so they'll take in I think, just one at a time.

622
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: You have to come through by yourself, and they only

623
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: do four people to day. It's only open on the weekends,

624
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is true. Supposedly, the

625
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: one rule like you have to apply fill on an

626
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: application to go through this thing and be super fit

627
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: and super psychologically fit and um, because you're getting a

628
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: physically like abused in some cases like nothing you can't

629
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: walk away from. But you know they're they're mangling you

630
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: without hurting you. Well, yeah, and they held I saw

631
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: they held one guy's face in front of a toilet

632
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: and it shot up some noxious stuff out of it,

633
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: like stuff like that. So on one hand, it is

634
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: like physically abusive. On the other it's like almost laughable

635
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: that they like, these people really put their minds to

636
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: it and they came up with shooting stuff out of

637
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: a toilet in your face. Yeah. Um, But supposedly you

638
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: can't leave this one at all, like there is no

639
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: safe word. I just don't believe that. I don't believe

640
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: it either. But it's free. The one in San Diego

641
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: is really Yeah, it's free. And the and that's the

642
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: one hook is is that you're not allowed to leave

643
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: what you You sign a document it says I'm going

644
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: to go through this thing from beginning to end. That's

645
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: what I say. I would trust me, I would get

646
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: out of that place like I would. Yeah, I would

647
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: bust through a wall or something. That's what it took

648
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: Chuck Murray. But that is McCamy manner, and that is

649
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: was constructed by Russ McCamey, who's a terror fanatic. Uh.

650
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: They also have one in New York and l A

651
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: called Blackout, one called Gates of Hell in Las Vegas.

652
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: And the common denominator of all these is you're getting

653
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: physically like you don't wear clothes you ever want to

654
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: wear again, because you're gonna fake blood and vomit thrown

655
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: in your face hopefully fake and be physically assaulted. I

656
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: mean they have scenes where, you like, where there's a

657
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: rapist after you. It's really dark. So they with haunted

658
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: house enthusiasts who criticize these kind of things, it's usually

659
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: because they say there's no story to it. There's very

660
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: rarely build up. It's all just payoff off, payoff, like

661
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: all of it. It's just there's no there's no well,

662
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: there's no ratcheting up of tensions. It's like those movies

663
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: that we're talking about. It's the haunted attraction version of Uh.

664
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: I don't even know what there are. I don't watch

665
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: any of them. Like Hostile, Okay, I did see that one. Actually,

666
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: what do you think anytime if you're going to pull

667
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: out that rusty tray of medical instruments, you've lost me. Yeah,

668
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: that is such a trope by now you know you

669
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: know who did do it well? Was the first couple

670
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: of hell raisers They used medical instruments to in the

671
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: day disheartening effect. Yeah, the ones that scare me the most. Again,

672
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: to delve back into movies like did you ever see

673
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: Wolf Creek and it's setting the Australian Outback, is like, yeah,

674
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: it's the kids whose car breaks down and all of

675
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, the rest of the movie is them getting

676
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: traced chased by this homicidal maniac. Okay, that to me

677
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: is what's called the psychological thriller. Yeah, that's not I mean, yes,

678
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: I understand it is horror Friday the thirteenth, that's like

679
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Hallmark Court, but it's the slasher movie different. Yeah, the

680
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: slasher movie is just it's just different. I mean, there's

681
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: not enough true, genuine horror movies in my opinion, which

682
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: amount to basically supernatural horror. I guess that's how you

683
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: put it. That's what I meant to You should check

684
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: out Wolf Creek. It's the the will. I have no

685
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: problem with it. It's just as far as horror goes,

686
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm not scared by that. I want to be scared

687
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: you might be scared. Okay, I'll check it out. The

688
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: murderous guy is is a really like kind of a

689
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: great character, and I think he falls into the pantheon

690
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: of classic like Michael Myers characters like yeah, one of

691
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: the good Slashers, um, which brings us to the hell houses, yeah,

692
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: which um, like we said, was sort of started back

693
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: in the dark ages of Christianity. Uh, they they do

694
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: this today. The most famous wasn't is in uh Cedar Hill, Texas.

695
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: And there's a documentary called hell House on these things,

696
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: I think from like two thousand to camp and Uh.

697
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: The idea of these is uh run by churches usually

698
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: and they are too just like in the old days,

699
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: scare you into walking the straight and narrow, And actually

700
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: they were. They were originated by Jerry Folwell back in

701
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: the seventies. Yeah, those are the first ones, I think. Yeah,

702
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: and then in the nineties that church in Texas you

703
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: mentioned took over Abundant Life Christian Center, um, and they

704
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: took over and they started actually packaging it. They started

705
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: selling hell houses for like bucks and it was kind

706
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: of like do you remember those j C's in the

707
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: seventies that came up with the Haunted House package. These

708
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: are the same things but for hell houses. And then

709
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: there's modules that you can buy that cost additional amounts

710
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: of money so you can add rooms to it. And

711
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: so like a room you might buy as the abortion room.

712
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: And in the abortion room, Um, you're taught how to

713
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: use raw meat that's like a stand in for a

714
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: fetus that you throw into a glass bowl. You've got

715
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: to make sure it's a glass bowl so everybody can

716
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: see through into it. Did the quote literally from the

717
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: manual that they distribute on how to run these says, quote,

718
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: purchase a meat product that closely resembles pieces of a

719
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: baby to be placed in a glass bowl, so that

720
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: their suggestion that's a room from hell house. Yeah, and

721
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: this is to keep you from having premarital sex exactly. Obviously,

722
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: subtlety is not a hallmark of the hell house. Um.

723
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: So for example, like if you there's there's one from

724
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: New Destiny Christian Center. Um, it's called the Rave scene

725
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: and basically it's about um club drugs and death. Teenage death.

726
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: Like pretty much everybody dies or takes their own life,

727
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: um as a result of of sin, yes, of their sin. Yeah,

728
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: like the lesbian suicide room where uh, you know, a

729
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: young lady succumbs to lesbianism and uh is so mistreated

730
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: and um, she she goes to she's she's not a lesbian,

731
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: she's just saving herself and is mistaken for a lesbian

732
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: and then uh it then kills herself because her best

733
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: friend rejects her and calls her a lesbian when she

734
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: went to go hugger. That was that was from the

735
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: Vice article you sign at least, yeah, that's a great article. Um,

736
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: but it's all repercussions of sins. So there's the lesbian

737
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: suicide room. There is the AIDS room, the abortion room,

738
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: the domestic violence room, the d u I room, and

739
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: they're all just enacting these horrific scenes. And until you

740
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: get finally to Hell, is it the end of the

741
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: very end? Um In Hell is where they're you know,

742
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: displaying what hell looks like with ghuls and demons and uh,

743
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: and then finally you get to go to heaven. Well,

744
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: this is what makes the hell house the hell house.

745
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: Like you through these different types of sin into Hell

746
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: and then when you come out, you emerge through Hell

747
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: and then the real life preachers there saying, hey, how

748
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: about you repent and for those of you who aren't saved,

749
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: why don't you come on over to our church and

750
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: we'll save you. Yeah, they call it. In the Vice article,

751
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: they call it the h It's a really cool pastor

752
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: who jumps out and is the good cop to hell

753
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: house is bad cop, and he's like, you can avoid

754
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: all this scary stuff if you, uh, you know, take

755
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: the Lord Jesus as your savior. And sometimes they'll do

756
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: that right in the room and have you signed something? Oh,

757
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: I can imagine, and uh, that's the hell house. And

758
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: then that Vice article, it's crazy. Um. The author mentions

759
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: that a little boy goes off in vomits during the

760
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: hell house, So apparently the very effective well, if the

761
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: object is to make you sick and vomit, yea, so

762
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: vomit from fear for your soul. And they're still around.

763
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: It seems like something that um might have gone by

764
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: the wayside. But yeah, you can still go to hell

765
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: houses in one of places. I have one more thing

766
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: for your chuck. What you got. Go to BuzzFeed dot com.

767
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: You may have heard of that website, uh, and search

768
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: for forty four best picks of scared brows at Haunted. Yeah,

769
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: I can't remember where the Haunted House is, but it's

770
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: all the same background, but very much like roller coasters.

771
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: They take a photo of this one spot and it's

772
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: like the scariest spot and um, the people are they're wonderful,

773
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: hilarious photo and like it's been around. I think they

774
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: first started publishing them in two thousand eleven, so they've

775
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: been around for years and they're still just as funny

776
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: as ever. It's great that the scared face is just

777
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: so pure to me because it's just pure reaction, like

778
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: the toughest dude in the world, like trying to climb

779
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: over his girlfriend or push her toward whatever he's afraid of.

780
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: It's whatever is happening in that two seconds. It's pretty great.

781
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: So that's Haunted House Attractions everybody I know. Uh, you

782
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: want to know more about them, type those words in

783
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Speaker 1: the switch part how stuff works dot com. And since

784
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: I said that, it's time for the listener mail, I'm

785
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna call this Karate Kid an email Awesome, which was

786
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: the scariest movie I've ever seen. Uh, if you listen

787
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: to our Karate episode, we wax philosophical about Karate Kid

788
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: movie and we got a lot of emails of UM

789
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: people feeling great ways of nostalgia UH and talking about it. UM.

790
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: So here we go. I imagine as will get dozens

791
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: of versions of this similar email. Just listen to Karate

792
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: and Uh. I have not finished it yet, but I'm

793
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: writing about the first seven to eight minutes. Specifically, Your

794
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: ode to the Karate Kid was beautiful. I got goose

795
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: bumps along with Chuck. I may have also had a

796
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: tear in my eye when Need described that magical moment

797
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: in the film where it all comes together and we realize,

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00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: along with Daniel Son, that Mr Miyagi is truly a genius. UM.

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00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: By the way, Ralph Maccio named his son Daniel after himself, Yeah,

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00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: I guess so, after the best version of himself. I

801
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: recently sent The Karate Kid to my six year old

802
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: nephew to ensure that despite what his friends and media

803
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: try to tell him, he will know that Ralph Macchio

804
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: is the original and only Karate Kid. When I called

805
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: him and asked what his favorite part was, he actually

806
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: started singing, You're the best around, nothing's ever gone, and

807
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: get you down. It was the proudest moment of my

808
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: aunthood so far. Now, Chuck I implore you to watch

809
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: The Karate Kid too, after all the other films that

810
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: attempt to be a part of the franchise or a

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00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: Travesty two is incredibly good. It is very good. The

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00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: Peter Sta song Josh mentioned, Glory of Love was my

813
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: first ever favorite song when I was six because of

814
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: the film is a classic, and I think you were

815
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: missing out. I'll watch it. I'll check it out anyways.

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00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Thanks for sending me to work this morning with an

817
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: extra bout in my step and a song in my

818
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: heart that is from Nicole Beal at Jed's barber shop.

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Speaker 1: It's like City Utah. Go get her to cut your head.

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Speaker 1: Nice hair, not your head. It's doing a terrible job.

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Speaker 1: She's cutting your head. Thanks a lot, Nicole. Um. Did

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Speaker 1: you know her friend Van Nostrin. Uh, does his band

823
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Speaker 1: The Bangalore's do a cover of your The Best Around?

824
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Speaker 1: I knew he loved that song. I don't know if

825
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: I knew they actually covered It's good. You can go

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Speaker 1: to SoundCloud search Bangalore's and You're the Best Around. It's

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