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Speaker 1: receive power by Seahawks dot Com. The two of you

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Speaker 1: Another edition of the Players Lounge live here and for

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Speaker 1: the BMAC. Joining us today right now is linebacker for

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Speaker 1: your Seattle Seahawks, Bobby Wagner. Bobby, random question for you,

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Speaker 1: my man, what's the unusual talent that you have that

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Speaker 1: nobody knows about? Unusual talent that um I don't know?

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Speaker 1: Can you can you? Can you? Can you juggle? Can

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Speaker 1: you backflip? Connect for a champion like Connect four pool? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I react the record creation stuff like that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't really think of a thing right now. What's

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Speaker 1: the What was the best year of your life? And

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Speaker 1: the best year of my life. Man, I can't. I

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Speaker 1: can't just pick one year. Every year it's amazing. Every

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Speaker 1: year brings um some pinpoint one thing when the super

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Speaker 1: Um Um, there's always something that happens in specific years.

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Speaker 1: It's that's pretty dope. Do you think we as people

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Speaker 1: I hope that you evolve every year. I hope you

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Speaker 1: So I hope that you know every year you're trying

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Speaker 1: In general, in general, do you think we as a

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Speaker 1: kind of just depends on you are. I think it's

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Speaker 1: kind of hard to speak for everybody, but um, I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, some people's tolerance level is off

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Speaker 1: the charge and some people tolerance level is not. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard to say, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, the people in Seattle, I think

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Speaker 1: last question, I'm gonna let you go. You could only

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Speaker 1: have one final meal? One final meal? What would it be? Um?

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Speaker 1: It'd be a buffet of of what sort what you eat? Spaghetti? Um,

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Speaker 1: state salmon, uh, sushi, fish fries. Uh. I'll take a

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Speaker 1: salad greens on there? Um? Yeah. If this last time eating,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have dessert? Uh? Oreo something you dip your

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Speaker 1: oreoles in milk? I have it in a while, I

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Speaker 1: used to as God, that's the stuff. Would you do

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Speaker 1: you think you're too old to dip oreoles in milk? No?

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Speaker 1: I just don't know. I'm just lazy. Well, you ain't

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Speaker 1: too lazy. You tackle a lot of people, all right, man,

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Speaker 1: He decided to come and join us here on the

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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players, and they ain't right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, Uncle Cliff, here's a deal just like today.

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Speaker 1: Well as of right now, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I ain't no telling what could happen next week, but

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Speaker 1: you're the best game anyway. We ain't talking about football.

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Speaker 1: We want to talk about here's gotta be top how

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Speaker 1: As a child Haiti, going to Haiti. I used to

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Speaker 1: I still talked to her to this day. What subject math?

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Speaker 1: know he's listening and trying to act like he ain't.

421
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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, What's what's the unusual talent that you have, sir?

422
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: That nobody knows about? An unusual talent that nobody knows about?

423
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: Any talent? Like can you do backflips? Can you uh?

424
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: Can you dance? I can hold my breath for a

425
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: pretty long time, about two minutes? Really? Are you being serious?

426
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: Are you joking? You can ask. We did it the

427
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: other day when I was rehabbing in the pool and

428
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: I got to I was at one forty eight something

429
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: like that. That is Jimmy did it on the clock.

430
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 1: So that's impressive. I can't I swear I can't go No,

431
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: no exaggeration. I barely could go thirty seconds. I'm not

432
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm not lying. You can go longer than that. No,

433
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: I can't, No, no, I can't. Just kind of kind

434
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: of like relax your brain and like it's almost like meditating.

435
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: You kind of forget you under water, and then when

436
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: you wake up, you're trying to drown. He talking about

437
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: talk about holding his breath unset two minutes. That's not

438
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: that's special. I asked this earlier. What traditions as a

439
00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,120
Speaker 1: child growing up that you still hold on to today?

440
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: Um of one present at twelve o'clock on New Year,

441
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean Christmas eve in, that's uff y'all. Two us

442
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of cod. He just said the same thing.

443
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: So you gonna let your dude, your children do it?

444
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: Let him do it. I mean I woke us behind that.

445
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: People's what we ten months old? Wake up, hey son,

446
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: you open his gift. I know you don't know what

447
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: it is. We don't know what's going on. Open this gift. Okay,

448
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: we as a people shun Are we more or less

449
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: tolerant of one another than we used to be? I

450
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: don't know what you mean. As we as a people,

451
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: we all of us, the human race. Okay, there we go,

452
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: there we go. That's really like to hear. Um. Uh,

453
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: we're the same, We're the same, Um. Where we're we're

454
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: fearful of what's different, um. And with that, I mean more,

455
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: you got more pigment in your skin. It looks different

456
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: than a person with less pigment in their skins. So

457
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: they have fear of what you are and what you're

458
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: capable of based off um. You know what they've learned socially,

459
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: how they've been a braised, how they've been influenced, and

460
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: it's showing itself more and more these days. You know,

461
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: at one point, it was owning people. You own people,

462
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: and you treated them lower than animals simply because they

463
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: had pigment in their skin. There was no different you know.

464
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: They they breathe the same as you, they walked the

465
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: same as you, they sometimes spoke the same as you,

466
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: but you treat them different because they had pigment in

467
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: their skin. And now there is a different way they

468
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: approach it because there's more equality. You know, there's less

469
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: of this that's accepted and we have to we have

470
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: to acknowledge it. But now you have the ku Klux Klan,

471
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: who's who's been known for their hate crimes against colored

472
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: people and minorities, resurfacing themselves in twenty sixteen in great

473
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: support of our new president. And you obviously have to

474
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: be aware of things like that. Shon, What was the

475
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: first time you ever embraced racism in your life? Um?

476
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: First embraced racism? The first time that you can remember? Like,

477
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: oh wow, what was that? I watched Roots when I

478
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: was six? Really, wow, who's that? Your dad? Had you

479
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: do it? My mom? Dad? How'd you do that? My

480
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: auntie was watching it. I just kind of was sitting

481
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: in the room and she didn't put me out the room.

482
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: He just stayed locked in, sit there and watched. I said,

483
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: this is kind of crazy. Didn't understand it, but I

484
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: understand it now. How about you, GERMANE was the first

485
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: time you ever embraced it? Felt it? How wow? I

486
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: grew up in Washington. I'm in I feel like it's here.

487
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: But honestly, I don't think i've necessarily really if probably

488
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: self construtly don't know if I have you or have not,

489
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: to be honest really, to be truthfully, well, he can

490
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: he can play both sides of the fence because he's

491
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: so light that he could he could technically pass if

492
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: he really wants. I'm being I'm being one hundred percent serious.

493
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: What's the most difficult transition you guys have ever had

494
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: to make in your life? Um? From from high school

495
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: to college? From Compton, California to the Silicone Valley, Palo Alto, California.

496
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Very difficult examples. UM, we didn't have a white person

497
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: at our school. We had Hispanics, blacks, and a couple

498
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: of Polynesians. And you get to Stanford and you you know,

499
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: very multicultural, predominantly white. UM. Also huge Asian population. Uh,

500
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, small minority obviously of black people and Hispanics,

501
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: but just a different way of talking, different way of communicating, conversing, UM,

502
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: And you had to get get used to it. I

503
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: had to get used to to talking. You know, They'd

504
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: be sitting there having a conversation, cracking jokes and I'd

505
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: be like, oh, wait, where was the joke? I see

506
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: y'all laughing, But what what was joking that? I mean?

507
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: You just so, what what what helped you? What helped you?

508
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: Like patients and diligence, Um, just sit in there and

509
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: just keep my mouth closed for a long time so

510
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: I didn't sound stupid. And then once, you know, I

511
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: kind of adapted. After a while, you kind of figure

512
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: out the groove of things. But it took me a while, Jermaine,

513
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: toughest transition you had to make your life. M hmm.

514
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: You tell me sure you were so locked into what

515
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: you say. I wasn't even thinking about mine. But I mean,

516
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of you gotta respect that and think

517
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: about that like that was just crazy. I'm just saying

518
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: I was locked in. I just didn't. But you gotta

519
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: think about my transition. I went from an hour south

520
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: from here, went to you due there's a big difference

521
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: between Lakewood, Mount Lake and right here and written those transitions. Yeah,

522
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: that I'm trying. But what about from middle school to

523
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: high school, high school to college, you know, college to

524
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: all that? Married to a single life to marry life.

525
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, being married for sure, for sure,

526
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: that that's the biggest transition of my life. Um, but

527
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. I love being married, to be honest. Yeah,

528
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: you're married up, bro, I am married. I'll kick your

529
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: coverage all right. Last one. I'll let you guys go

530
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: tired of people saying that's cur curses, curses a catch,

531
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: thank you. They don't give curse no credit. I'm a

532
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: hell of a gunner. Yeah, getting a hell of a

533
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: gunner no credit. I don't know if anybody is gonna

534
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: agree with that. Well, last thing, here we go. One thing,

535
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: one thing that you're grateful for, My family, I would

536
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: agree family, Yeah, one thing you're grateful for. All right, Well,

537
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys taking the time of disappointed with

538
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: that answer. I know it was like your family. Really,

539
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: it was just I mean, I'm just not used to

540
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: sure giving a family. I'm not. I'm not used to

541
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: that thought it was gonna be family. Little extra sauce

542
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: of the rice. But you know what that works. You know,

543
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta get playing white rice. I had that yesterday. No,

544
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 1: not at all. Hey, where'd you guys get those shoes from?

545
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Courtesy of Richard Sherman. But a matter of fact, let's

546
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: tell you what. It took me about three years to

547
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: get these pairs of shoes. Right here. I saw everybody

548
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: in the building. I said, hey, Sherton, let me get

549
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: a pair. Can I get a pair of the Richard

550
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: Shermans and he you gave me the cliff what you said,

551
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: you gave me one of those, and I would be

552
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: like okay, And then I finally just went to the quimen.

553
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: I said I want a pair of the Richard Sherman's.

554
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: And I walked up to him and I was like,

555
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: thank you, but no, thank you, and kurse could have

556
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: done this three years ago. But I was being I

557
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: wanted to ask him, well, I look just to you

558
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: know one time in the text, I kind of asked

559
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: a little bit, Yeah, I got really shot down on

560
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: some Richard Sherman gear. But you know what we talked

561
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: about this earlier. Everybody he has a fake laugh when

562
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: somebody corny says something to give a little fake what's

563
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: your fake laugh for somebody that's corny? I don't. I

564
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: don't know no more because because Ashley says, my my

565
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: everything is faked out, so I give a real laugh.

566
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: She'd be like that was fake. I was like that

567
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: was I thought that was my real one. I don't

568
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: know the difference no more. I thought, I guess I

569
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: put the fake one on so much I can't find

570
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: my real one no more. I'll be sitting there like

571
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: one of one of them is real? Does Ashley call

572
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: you out a lot as often as you can? I

573
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: would love I would love to see that. That would

574
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: be I mean, because I'm not used to seeing anybody

575
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: called Richard Sherman out. A matter of fact, you know

576
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: what I'm used to seeing. I'm used to everybody hanging

577
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: on every single word you saying like, oh my goodness,

578
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman is so funny. No, they call me, people

579
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: call me out quite often. They just really rarely works

580
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: out for I mean, I mean, you're I mean, you're

581
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: not boring, but you're not as funny as people tell

582
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: you you are. I don't. I don't get a lot

583
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: of laughs. I get a lot of serious backlash. How

584
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: you feel about the you do get a lot Oh boy,

585
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: all right, well, hell's a good conversation. No animals get

586
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: brought up or anything like that. So anyway, again, we're

587
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: really appreciate everybody for joining the players Lounge. We'll see

588
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: you next time. Appreciate you for listening to see that