WEBVTT - Balancing Fortune and Family (How-To Monday)

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<v Speaker 1>Ba fam, we have another how to throw back for you,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we do. We're looking back at some of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite episodes from days past for memorable guests, too

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<v Speaker 1>unforgettable moments. There's still so much to learn from the

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<v Speaker 1>b A Vault. Take a listen, willya hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're black, We're brown, ambit shit yeah, Aum, Tiffany, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Mandy. Yeah, manage. It feels we're taping like Midday.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, but you know, we've been the rules for

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<v Speaker 4>our friends and we have a very special friend flash

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<v Speaker 4>guest today. Do you want to do the honors to?

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<v Speaker 2>Excited that? Well? She is?

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<v Speaker 3>You might have seen her. She actually her own show

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<v Speaker 3>at one point. I mean you've seen her. I'm shore

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<v Speaker 3>on the Today Show for our news to Robbie, who

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<v Speaker 3>is amazing. Not only is she a stellar financial expert

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<v Speaker 3>and educators, recently, which is so awesome, started doing stand up.

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<v Speaker 2>How randomly cool is that?

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot about that? Yeah, Nush's awesome. I've known news

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time. She's authored I don't know three

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<v Speaker 4>or four different personal finance books. She has a massively

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<v Speaker 4>popular podcast called so Money. The So Money Podcast. She

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the first personal finance influencers, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>to launch a podcast like that, And it's been such

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<v Speaker 4>an amazing, such an amazing journey for her, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so excited to have her on the show because one

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<v Speaker 4>of the reasons we've wanted for New Shawn for a

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<v Speaker 4>while is because both of us have been talking a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about, you know, planning our careers and our paths

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<v Speaker 4>to motherhood at the same time and trying to prepare

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<v Speaker 4>as best we can for what lies ahead. And I

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<v Speaker 4>can't I couldn't think of anyone who's who's been more

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<v Speaker 4>candid about becoming a mother and running several businesses than Farnush,

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<v Speaker 4>And I just knew she'd be the perfect person to,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, make us feel better about what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on and give some great little pearls of wisdom. On

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<v Speaker 4>top of that, varnushe is never one to stay in

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<v Speaker 4>one place for too long. She just launched a new business,

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<v Speaker 4>a new side project called stax House, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>financial empowerment pop up that she'll talk about on today's

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<v Speaker 4>show as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm excited because she's just a fun, all around,

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<v Speaker 3>like dope human being and her kids are super adorable.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of motherhood, I spent all morning on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>So I never had to enroll a kid before, like

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<v Speaker 3>in a school, and I grew up and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how it was where you grew up, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you just used to be like, oh, I moved to

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<v Speaker 3>the town, and this is the school that's close to

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<v Speaker 3>my house. You enroll your kid in New York. It

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<v Speaker 3>is so different. So I've been getting my my niece,

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<v Speaker 3>well not my niece by blood, but you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>niece by by love.

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<v Speaker 2>So for her mom, who moved here last year to NewYork.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, she couldn't get her into school school.

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<v Speaker 3>A public school that she wanted because I guess she

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<v Speaker 3>moved like right at the school year kind of time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I understood that because there's like a lottery system.

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<v Speaker 3>But this year she applied extra early. You get to

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<v Speaker 3>choose like four schools. She chose four schools and was

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<v Speaker 3>not matched to any of them. So her mother was

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<v Speaker 3>totally freaking out. So I was like, that seems weird

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<v Speaker 3>and crazy. So I posted it on Facebook, like, hey

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<v Speaker 3>Newark people, how does this work?

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<v Speaker 2>And so isn't that weird?

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<v Speaker 3>Like apparently this is true. You can choose your schools.

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<v Speaker 3>And these are public schools. These are not charter schools,

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<v Speaker 3>these are not these are just regular public schools near

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<v Speaker 3>your house.

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<v Speaker 2>And not get matched. I don't know how you're not

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<v Speaker 2>matched to four.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been on the phone, honestly, but now I've

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<v Speaker 3>spoken to the CEO of the United Way. I spoken

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<v Speaker 3>to like an executive at the charter school. I spoken

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<v Speaker 3>to a board member at the Newark Board of Education

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, no, this is not right, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is not just for my niece, but just in general,

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<v Speaker 3>what is going on? And like, you know, I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if any parents out there have experienced with like this

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<v Speaker 3>whole lottery system. I'd heard of it before, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't realize that it could. You could literally not get matched.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a public school or are they stublic?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>These are straight public, like not sometimes you can have

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<v Speaker 3>like a charter school that's like we're like a public school,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, no, this is straight run of the mill.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, these are good public schools, but they're public

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<v Speaker 3>schools nonetheless. So isn't that crazy that you can literally

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<v Speaker 3>like not get into a public school four of them

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<v Speaker 3>by your house? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Man, New England is no like Northeast is no joke,

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<v Speaker 4>New York, New jert Like the things I've learned about

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<v Speaker 4>public education up here, I makes them want to move

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<v Speaker 4>back to Georgia real quick. When I was growing up, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just like you were saying, like the total opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, what's your school? Just look, you know, look

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<v Speaker 4>at where you're zoned. You know, you have a choice

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<v Speaker 4>one high school, one middle school, maybe two high schools

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<v Speaker 4>if you're lucky. Yep, and that's it. Like the bus

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<v Speaker 4>picks you up, you go, and there's no choice. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just totally different here. How old is your niece?

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<v Speaker 2>She is eight, she's going to third grade.

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<v Speaker 4>Third grade, so it's like elementary school.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just like, excuse me. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>meet it and I couldn't press the meat button in time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, but yeah, I just so this is not

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<v Speaker 3>just for her, this is just in general. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to figure out. So we've gotten like a solution.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently it's like some family center place that you can

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<v Speaker 3>go to and opens up the twenty ninth of this

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<v Speaker 3>month and you can go and kind of be like,

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<v Speaker 3>so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't get into these schools. What do I do?

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<v Speaker 3>But the earlier you go, the better, and so that's

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<v Speaker 3>what she's going to do. And then so I just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and then you you know, you pray for

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<v Speaker 3>the best. I don't because I don't know, it's not guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 3>We can go to this family center place and they're like, yeah, girls,

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<v Speaker 3>so you and everybody else who wants a good school.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I'm hopeful. But it's also just disheartening

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like, so what do you do? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>do you either so it's like one or two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>You either, well three, One you send your kid to

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<v Speaker 3>a school where the kids are failing, which is like what,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, why would a parent want that?

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<v Speaker 2>Two you send your kids to a decent school. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's super far like Nowrark, it's huge, Like we live

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<v Speaker 2>in the Northward. There are great schools in the Southward.

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<v Speaker 3>You're looking at like a twenty minute drive sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on you're going through traffic and stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's not a small thing to take your third grader,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And then third choices that you put them

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<v Speaker 3>in private school. And that's what she did last year.

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<v Speaker 3>She put her in a parochial school, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was fairly inexpensive as far as Catholic schools go,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was still money, you know. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>we really, we just bought a home. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>save spending you know, money every month for private school when.

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<v Speaker 2>We paid taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>We bought a house here, we started a business here,

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<v Speaker 3>we paid taxes here, we went to college here.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, I guess I'm not looking for to

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<v Speaker 2>be overly.

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<v Speaker 3>Accommodated, just accommodated like a like a normal parent should,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So it's just been an interesting process and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow, you know, how many parents you know

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<v Speaker 3>don't have the capacity to advocate for their child.

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<v Speaker 2>What do they do?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's really disheartening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I mean I'll give you guys an update.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, by this time next week, I should have

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<v Speaker 3>like an update, so hopefully it all works out. But

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately what I want is that I'm sharing kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like the solutions that people have given me, like on

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<v Speaker 3>my Facebook page, because that's why I posted the question,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, I mean, because I know she's not

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<v Speaker 3>the only parent, and that was the one request that

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<v Speaker 3>when I get some feedback, share the solutions. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>the solution has just been to go to this family's

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<v Speaker 3>center and and just share what's going on, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be able to help.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That's literally everybody who I message that's been the same

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<v Speaker 3>feedback from, you know, the the charter school executive, the

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<v Speaker 3>CEO of the United Way, the Board of Education. Remember,

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<v Speaker 3>every single person said the same thing. So I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>let's hope that that's a real solution, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just finding it, like daycare is hard enough,

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<v Speaker 4>what then yeah, like paying for you know, paying for

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<v Speaker 4>K through twelve, if you have to send your kid

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<v Speaker 4>to private school, which some parents up to do if

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<v Speaker 4>schools aren't good, and then think about the cost of

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<v Speaker 4>college on top of that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just yeah, it's just exactly and it's not Honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons why, like Newark was under state

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<v Speaker 3>control for like thirty years something crazy. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>first year that they're finally able to manage their own

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<v Speaker 3>schools because New York schools were doing so poorly public

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<v Speaker 3>schools that the state took over, and so it's crawling

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<v Speaker 3>its way out of that, and if they want families

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<v Speaker 3>to move here to Newark, you know, then they have

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<v Speaker 3>to provide a way for them to have access to

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<v Speaker 3>free and fair and good public education or else people

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<v Speaker 3>won't stay here. I know, I won't let me wait

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<v Speaker 3>till super baby gets here. If it's a problem getting

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<v Speaker 3>my baby into like.

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<v Speaker 2>A good school.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone's like, well, girl, you gon have the money to

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<v Speaker 3>go to public private school, And I'm like, well, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, I grew up in Westfield, which has one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best school systems in the state. My parents

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<v Speaker 3>purposely moved there because they were like, either do we

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<v Speaker 3>pay for private school for five girls or do we

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<v Speaker 3>pay taxes? And they opted for taxes, so you should

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<v Speaker 3>be able to say that. So no, my kids will

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<v Speaker 3>go to public school if it's a good public school.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no problem with that. But they have to

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<v Speaker 3>be available to them. So yeah, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I said, this is it's been very

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<v Speaker 3>interesting like this morning, Like, you know, so this is

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<v Speaker 3>what it is to assurance.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, did you on the on the bright side, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean speaking of like the cost of education. So following

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<v Speaker 4>candidates for twenty twenty, because it's never too early to

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<v Speaker 4>think about twenty twenty, Elizabeth Warren, Democratic candidate for the

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<v Speaker 4>nomination presidential nomination. She's released a plan. She's like one

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<v Speaker 4>of the only candidates who's actually releasing policy initiatives. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I'm looking at, is candidate's policies. And today

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<v Speaker 4>she came out and rolled out a plan for what

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<v Speaker 4>she would consider. She'd actually considered canceling student loan debt,

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<v Speaker 4>up to fifty thousand dollars of student loan debt for

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<v Speaker 4>forty two million Americans in this new policy planning right,

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<v Speaker 4>and the way she would pay for it is a

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<v Speaker 4>few months ago when she first rolled out her candidacy,

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<v Speaker 4>or a couple months ago, she rolled out a new

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<v Speaker 4>private wealth tax, which would essentially put higher taxes on

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<v Speaker 4>the rich, which we know recent tax reform did nothing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know to that effect. So she would raise taxes

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<v Speaker 4>on the uber wealthy, and then with that increased tax revenue,

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<v Speaker 4>she's talking about passing that on to student loan borrowers

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<v Speaker 4>to help them have up to fifty thousand dollars of

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<v Speaker 4>their student loans, their student loan debt completely eliminated, which

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<v Speaker 4>would just change lives. I mean, talk about starting from behind.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be huge, so huge.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that like pop up in my in my feed,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, honestly, that is an amazing idea,

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I think I mean that just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I look at my mentee's she graduated law school.

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<v Speaker 3>She's now working as a lawyer, but when she first graduated,

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<v Speaker 3>she was like, what am I going to do? My

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<v Speaker 3>student loans are nine hundred dollars a month? And I'm like, what,

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<v Speaker 3>there are a mortgage payment? I don't even you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, I'm sure there are private loans. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>assuming that, you know, Senator Warren is talking about public loans,

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<v Speaker 3>but still student loans are crippling.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish that was my mortgage payment anyway, property taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you live in deep South Jersey or in the South.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but for real. So that was just fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, especially when you look at stats that

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<v Speaker 4>have shown, you know, everyone was so excited about public

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<v Speaker 4>service loan forgiveness program and how it was meant to

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<v Speaker 4>forgive student loan debt for people who took jobs and

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<v Speaker 4>career paths and nonprofit or government work, only to find

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<v Speaker 4>out that very few people really qualified because there were

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<v Speaker 4>so many asterisks next to the qualification rules, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's the student loan system is still so broken. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's not as I'm looking toward twenty twenty and what

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<v Speaker 4>candidates have to say, like I really want to see

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<v Speaker 4>some actual policies with you know, ways to pay for them.

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<v Speaker 4>And it seems like Lizzie Warren so far has at

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<v Speaker 4>least a plan to pay for such a program. And

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<v Speaker 4>the implications for the economy are just huge, Like if

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<v Speaker 4>it's not just about giving people a free ride, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like with fifty thousand dollars off their back, imagine what

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<v Speaker 4>you could do, you know, qualify for a mortgage or

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<v Speaker 4>what's you know, freaking out because millennials aren't you know,

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<v Speaker 4>getting into the home home. You can start a business, right,

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<v Speaker 4>start a business, maybe not rack up credit card debt

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<v Speaker 4>to finance your life, get out of the rent trap.

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's there's so much opportunity. And when you also

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<v Speaker 4>couple that with like stats on how disproportionate the student

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<v Speaker 4>loan debt crisis impacts communities of color, you know, who

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<v Speaker 4>are we really talking about when we when we say

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<v Speaker 4>who will really benefit it from the duck canslation it

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<v Speaker 4>can be people of color in a big way who

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<v Speaker 4>already or so behind. So that was a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>good news.

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<v Speaker 3>For next week. Don't forget to remind me. I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>I've been Did I tell you that I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>for a new financial planner?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, ma'am. We talked about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So but I'm gonna i'll give you guys the update

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<v Speaker 3>of like, so I've been interviewing. I think I interviewed

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<v Speaker 3>like I want to say, five or six people last week,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have like two or three more this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll give you a little update. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>people I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yikes, are you sure you know how to budget, let

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<v Speaker 3>alone financially planned?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, and some people were really awesome and

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<v Speaker 2>some people were really aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll give you guys a update once I finished

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<v Speaker 3>all of my a lot of my interviews and just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, share kind of like the process and a

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<v Speaker 3>tool something I created for myself that made the process

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<v Speaker 3>ten times easier, and I'll share it with you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So just putting it, putting that out there before a

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<v Speaker 2>niche comes on.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, very excited to hear who you pick. So

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<v Speaker 4>all right, well, let's take a quick break and we'll

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<v Speaker 4>be right back with personal finance Guru, podcaster, entrepreneur, business owner,

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<v Speaker 4>mom preneur, just all. Whatever the accolades are, she's got them.

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<v Speaker 4>For a new to Rabbi, come back and join us. Okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>we are back as promised with for News to Rabbi,

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<v Speaker 4>personal finance guru and recently co founder of stax House.

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<v Speaker 5>We're calling it a pop up with a purpose, so,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, taking a page out of the success of

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<v Speaker 5>all these other pop ups like Museum of ice Cream,

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<v Speaker 5>Museum of Pizza, Color Factory, twenty nine rooms, we want

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<v Speaker 5>to be as successful as them. There's a cultural relevance

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<v Speaker 5>and a cultural excitement around pop ups, but we wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to bring forth also a bit of purpose, and that

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<v Speaker 5>purpose is to empower women as they go through the experience,

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<v Speaker 5>to open about their money, to feel like it's not

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<v Speaker 5>taboo that they can actually you know, take control of

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<v Speaker 5>their financial lives. And we know that there are many

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<v Speaker 5>solutions to this problem. We don't claim to be you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the pop up's not going to solve all the world's

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<v Speaker 5>financial problems, but we thought that, you know, with all

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<v Speaker 5>the content that already exists in the world, of personal finance,

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<v Speaker 5>your great podcast books, you know courses that what was

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<v Speaker 5>kind of missing was this essential experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you guys should check out www dot Stexhouse dot

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<v Speaker 4>com to buy tickets for sex House. Now let's talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the social media moments, because this is all about

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<v Speaker 4>financial empowerment. But we all love a good Instagram moment.

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<v Speaker 4>And all I'm seeing is the mechanical piggybank. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>I need to know more. Does it travel? Will it

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<v Speaker 4>be traveling to future?

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<v Speaker 5>Toward panical baby? And the piggy bank really is meant

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<v Speaker 5>to and the ride is meant to illustrate bring to

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<v Speaker 5>life the movements of the market, the fact that the

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<v Speaker 5>market can be unpredictable, up down, sideways, round and round.

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<v Speaker 5>We found that something like eighty six percent of women

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<v Speaker 5>have said that they have yet to get paid back

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<v Speaker 5>for a small purchase amongst friends. Whether that's like I

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<v Speaker 5>got you, I shared in Uber with you last night

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<v Speaker 5>and I paid for it, or I got dinner last night,

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<v Speaker 5>they're still waiting for that payment. Yeah. So we were like,

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<v Speaker 5>as something as small as that to as we know,

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<v Speaker 5>like asking for a raise, we have this real trepidation

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<v Speaker 5>around talking about money and asking for what we want.

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<v Speaker 5>So that room has these beautiful illuminated installations ons, this

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<v Speaker 5>massive cake that represents a celebratory occasion in your life.

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<v Speaker 5>Another is an actual house that you can walk in,

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<v Speaker 5>which represents like you know, living in a home that

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<v Speaker 5>a shaving that milestone. And in all of these experiences

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<v Speaker 5>or life moments, how to speak up and ask for

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<v Speaker 5>money because like with birthdays and stuff, we get a

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<v Speaker 5>ton of gifts that we never use, So why don't

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<v Speaker 5>you ask for money instead, or you know, when you

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<v Speaker 5>have a roommate and you're living with your roommate, making

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<v Speaker 5>sure that you're talking about splitting the bills and having

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<v Speaker 5>that important conversation. So that room is you'll see that

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<v Speaker 5>all over Instagram, this giant cake or the home that

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<v Speaker 5>we have in this huge like also this one room

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<v Speaker 5>that this one part of the room that is this

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<v Speaker 5>floral like decor that looks like a travel destination. That's

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<v Speaker 5>also a life moment. We want to encourage women to

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<v Speaker 5>travel and experience travel, but to do it responsibly, splitting

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<v Speaker 5>the bill with friends and how to have those conversations.

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<v Speaker 5>We also have a stack salon, which is a retrofitted

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<v Speaker 5>salon that looks like kind of like out of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>still Magnolia's or something, And in that room, it's really

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<v Speaker 5>about creating this relaxing backdrop to then talk about negotiating

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<v Speaker 5>and asking for your worth. So we've got excerpts from

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<v Speaker 5>my podcast playing with people from like Susie Orman and

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<v Speaker 5>Ariana Huffington talking about how to earn your worth. We

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<v Speaker 5>have a Stax she Stacks magazine. She Sacks as our

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<v Speaker 5>parent company, so we have a whole magazine in there

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<v Speaker 5>that has articles around how to negotiate and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>how to turn your side hustle into a full time gig.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we have in every room. I forgot to

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<v Speaker 5>mention this. In every room, we have these electronic beacons

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<v Speaker 5>that we call them beacons. There are these tall vertical

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<v Speaker 5>stations that are driven by iPads that are a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of them are pop quizzes or they're asking you for

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<v Speaker 5>more information about yourself so that we can give you

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<v Speaker 5>more catered advice. So that's where we're trying to sprinkle

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<v Speaker 5>in the literacy throughout the experience. It was a balance, right,

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<v Speaker 5>so it's not this heavy handed, you know, textbook financial experience.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that would be a little weird frankly, but

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<v Speaker 5>to the extent that we thought it was you know,

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<v Speaker 5>fun and appropriate and well tied into the room. We

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<v Speaker 5>have these moments where you can learn about money, but

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<v Speaker 5>we also hope to have like money schools, really good

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<v Speaker 5>conversations around closing the wealth gap, you know how the

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<v Speaker 5>different sort of unique financial circumstances that affect people that

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<v Speaker 5>are like women of color or modualized groups. Groups Like

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<v Speaker 5>how we can you know, create better advice or tools

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<v Speaker 5>or what are the systemic issues that we can address,

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, again, sax House in and of itself

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<v Speaker 5>is a great experience, but we really want to take

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<v Speaker 5>it to the next level through conversation and we have

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<v Speaker 5>a dedicated space in sax House for those things. So

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<v Speaker 5>if you two want to come and ho do a

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<v Speaker 5>live podcast from sax House, we would totally invite you

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<v Speaker 5>to come. I think that would be fun and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so if maybe that's how I get you guys to

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<v Speaker 5>come come take your show on the road, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Our other motivation for having you on Farniche was just

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to you because you wrote this amazing article

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<v Speaker 4>in Refinary twenty nine about what it's like to be

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<v Speaker 4>a successful mom and an entrepreneur. So let's let's jump

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<v Speaker 4>into that. I mean, Tiffany, I know you have questions here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so I just wanted to ask, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with all that you do, if you guys don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we talked a little bit about Fernution kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like what she does, and you've probably seen her

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<v Speaker 3>on TV and she's got her podcast, she's got this

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<v Speaker 3>new this new venture.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you able because as I we.

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<v Speaker 3>Talked offline that you know, I'm trying to start a

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<v Speaker 3>family with Superman, and I am a little nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have a bonus daughter. But she's twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, a twelve year old girl is like

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<v Speaker 2>a it's like a forty year old man.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean she's you know, fully, she's like I mean

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<v Speaker 3>since she was eight. I mean, she didn't need you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't need much to make her own breakfasts mixed

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we hang out, you know, staples like

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<v Speaker 3>I do. So it's not a heavy lift when she

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<v Speaker 3>gets when you get to that age, you know, Plus

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<v Speaker 3>her mom is awesome, so it's only fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the responsibility. But how you know, how do you manage

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<v Speaker 3>with little ones and doing all that you're doing well.

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<v Speaker 5>I will just say this that I had the same

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<v Speaker 5>concerns and before I had kids, you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>how do these people do it? It gets done okay?

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<v Speaker 5>But I think that you know, just I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>you that well, but I feel like I'm already understanding

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<v Speaker 5>that you have some really important kind of foundations in

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<v Speaker 5>your relationship, in your work, in your mindset too. It's

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<v Speaker 5>so important before you become a mom, a working mom,

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<v Speaker 5>that you have a few things like sort of quote

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<v Speaker 5>unquote figured out or at least you know that you're

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<v Speaker 5>aware of the needs. And one is that it sounds

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<v Speaker 5>like you have an amazing partner or superman. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>his name is Superman. I mean that's pretty that's pretty

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<v Speaker 5>self explanatory. So important. I don't know how single moms

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<v Speaker 5>do it. I think that if you were a single mom,

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<v Speaker 5>I would be beside myself. I'd say, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>how you do it, because I know like in my life, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm married to a great man and he helps me

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<v Speaker 5>and supports us. But it's also like having a nanny

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<v Speaker 5>and having friends who I can call and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>can I you know, can you watch my kid for

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the afternoon because I'm running late. So having

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<v Speaker 5>a support system is really important. Knowing who your people

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<v Speaker 5>are going to be is vital. So outside of even

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<v Speaker 5>just your nuclear family, you know, are there neighbors, relatives, friends,

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna calling them all the time, but you'll be

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<v Speaker 5>really happy to be able to access and leverage them

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<v Speaker 5>in times of need. Having someone who can take care

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<v Speaker 5>of your child, like a nanny or a really great

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<v Speaker 5>daycare or preschool that you love and trust is really

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<v Speaker 5>important too. That's part of the how you do it,

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<v Speaker 5>and you might not get it right the first time,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. I know a lot of people who hire

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<v Speaker 5>caretakers and it doesn't work out, So that's okay. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just know that that's part of the process sometimes because

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<v Speaker 5>as a new parent, like sometimes you just don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what you need. And so the I guess the elephant

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<v Speaker 5>in the room here is that to be able to

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<v Speaker 5>have all these things, you need money. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that it is much harder when you don't have savings

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<v Speaker 5>or steady income before you have kids. We know this,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's I wrote about this for Refinery twenty nine

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<v Speaker 5>that even in my twenties when I was far from

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<v Speaker 5>having kids. I had kids in my mid thirties. I

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<v Speaker 5>already could tell that having kids in New York City,

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<v Speaker 5>in particular at Tritate area, is expensive if you want

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<v Speaker 5>to continue working, Like it's kind of ironic, like you

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<v Speaker 5>have to be able to afford your You have to

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<v Speaker 5>work to be able to afford having kids, which is

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and you have to have to have a

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<v Speaker 5>good job and a good paying job to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to sometimes afford some of the basics. So making sure

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<v Speaker 5>that you're financially set up is vital and preparing for

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<v Speaker 5>things like childcare. But I think also what I'm sensing

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<v Speaker 5>from your question is like the management of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>because you're busy, you're running off, you're doing speeches, you're

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<v Speaker 5>traveling the country, you've got TV and like all your work.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think that one of the beauties that happens

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<v Speaker 5>when you have kids is that your framework completely changes.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's okay, it's what you've wanted. And I realized

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<v Speaker 5>that when I had kids, my first son, there were

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<v Speaker 5>limitations as far as what I could do, Like I

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't just drop and go to California, you know, because

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<v Speaker 5>some random television production company was calling, and maybe before

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<v Speaker 5>I had kids i'd be able to, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was I had limitations. I started my podcast as

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<v Speaker 5>soon as I had a kid because of the benefits

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<v Speaker 5>of how that worked with my new life as a mom.

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<v Speaker 5>So a podcast I can do from home. It's something

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<v Speaker 5>that still allows me to connect to all the women

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<v Speaker 5>and all the men that I want to connect with.

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<v Speaker 5>It's monetizable, and it's like it doesn't require me to

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<v Speaker 5>like get dressed up, you know, and put on makeup.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, before I had kids, I was doing a

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<v Speaker 5>TV show and like a lot of videos which required

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<v Speaker 5>me a lot of time and also like getting ready

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<v Speaker 5>and all the whole makeup and hair thing. Like I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to kind of tone that down, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>looking forward to it. And you know, you're not going

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to know everything that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>But for somehow, like having kids makes you a lot

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<v Speaker 5>more decisive around what it is you want to do

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<v Speaker 5>and what is you can do. And here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 5>Like you've been working so hard all your career that

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<v Speaker 5>you have now arrived at a place where now that

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<v Speaker 5>you want to become a parent, you can afford to

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<v Speaker 5>say no to things, and then the ramifications are going

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<v Speaker 5>to be dire for you, right like you saying no

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<v Speaker 5>to certain things versus you saying no ten years ago

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<v Speaker 5>to those certain things, whole different consequence. You're not going

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<v Speaker 5>to want to say yes to everything. I wrote an

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<v Speaker 5>article for money one time that since becoming a mom,

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<v Speaker 5>my income doubled, and I think it's because I got really,

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<v Speaker 5>really acutely aware of the things that were important to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I got really clear on my framework and like how

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<v Speaker 5>I work, Like I don't go on business trips that

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<v Speaker 5>require me out of the house for two or three

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<v Speaker 5>more nights unless you know, I just got back from

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<v Speaker 5>LA for a week. That's a unique circumstance. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I used to just do things sometimes for free. Never again.

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<v Speaker 5>And if it's going to if they're gonna want me

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<v Speaker 5>to travel, then they have to, you know, make sure

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<v Speaker 5>that they get me back here within forty eight hours,

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<v Speaker 5>that the travel is accommodating, that that there's money involved.

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<v Speaker 5>I've become really good at negotiating asking for my worth

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<v Speaker 5>since I became a parent. And so say that I

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<v Speaker 5>think you're going to be fine. I think that you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to be more than fine. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 5>the support system, you have the income, you're driven, you

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<v Speaker 5>know who you are. You're gonna be a great role

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<v Speaker 5>model for your kids too, Like I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 5>you to be a parent.

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<v Speaker 3>What if I'm like I think about stuff like what

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm like, I don't want to do the budgetesta anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, one of the things I did ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>time is that I started an online school for that

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<v Speaker 3>very same reason. And I was like, if I never

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<v Speaker 3>spoke again on the stage, what you know, what does

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<v Speaker 3>that look like? And so I said, well, I need

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<v Speaker 3>income to still come in. And so my online school

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<v Speaker 3>does really really well, and it's like it probably makes

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<v Speaker 3>about I want to say, like four or five times

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<v Speaker 3>what me speaking and books and stuff as the budget

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<v Speaker 3>needs to make so as far as.

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<v Speaker 2>It can come, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing is like it's like I have people

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<v Speaker 3>that are hired via the Budgetista, but even then we

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<v Speaker 3>have some ideas in place of like how the BUDGETIESSA

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<v Speaker 3>can make money without the budgetisa me. You know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so it can you know, keep that business running. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not worried so much about the financial component, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess more so, like you know, just it's a lot emotionally.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean when I babysit my I used to ask

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<v Speaker 3>my sister, like, hey, you know you didn't reply to

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 3>my tax or did you get that email I sent you?

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<v Speaker 3>And she'd be like, girl, the kids are up, And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what does that mean? Until I babysat and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, how do you even go to the bathroom?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, she does it sometimes and sometimes it's Thursday and

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 5>she realized she hasn't taken a shower since Monday. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's important for parents to be a lot

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<v Speaker 5>more transparent about the realities of raising a kid. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, my in starting sax House, I'm the only

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<v Speaker 5>mom in the company, and you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to always like use my family as an excuse, but

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<v Speaker 5>the reality is is like I can't do four hour

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<v Speaker 5>meetings on the weekends. Sorry, ladies, you know, like my

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<v Speaker 5>life is just not there. I can't and maybe I could,

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<v Speaker 5>but I don't want to. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of parent that's away from her family on

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<v Speaker 5>the weekends for four hours. If I can, if there's

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<v Speaker 5>another way to do it, let's do it. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>really vocal about the fact that, you know, as a mom,

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<v Speaker 5>there's just some non negotiables for me, like I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to give you all this time, but then I need

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<v Speaker 5>other times to do to be a mom, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and to be with my family. And I'm not apologetic

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<v Speaker 5>about that. And I think that, you know, there's that

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<v Speaker 5>saying where we want women to work like they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have a family, and have a family like they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have work, And I think that that needs to stop.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think people used to be afraid, like I

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<v Speaker 5>used to be a little bit more timid about being

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<v Speaker 5>saying like, well, I can't you know, I've to be

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<v Speaker 5>home by five because my nanny leaves then. And now

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just like sorry, five o'clock is my witching hour.

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<v Speaker 5>It's when my nanny leaves and I have to be

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<v Speaker 5>at home and I'm literally out of commission for at

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<v Speaker 5>least half an hour because my kids are climbing my

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<v Speaker 5>body for thirty minutes. And that's just the reality. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I'm not going to dance around it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's just it is what it is. And I'm so

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<v Speaker 5>I feel so fortunate to be able to have that life.

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<v Speaker 3>I get to bring that to the women that work

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<v Speaker 3>with me. It's largely I would say it's we're like

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<v Speaker 3>ninety women, and of the women, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>more than half our moms, and of those moms, more

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<v Speaker 3>than you know sixty percent of those moms are our

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<v Speaker 3>mothers of young.

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<v Speaker 2>Children, like you know, one, two, three, four, And so we.

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<v Speaker 3>Make it I really make it a point to make

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<v Speaker 3>the environment in that because we all work digitally, that

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 3>they set their own schedule. There is no you know,

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>like your family comes first, second and third. If we're

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<v Speaker 3>having like my my CFO, Rachel, she's amazing, She's got

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<v Speaker 3>a Manny. I think her son is three or four

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 3>and amani her daughter is like one or two. And

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<v Speaker 3>so sometimes you know, Rachel is like diving deep into

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers and Manny is like on the video chat

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<v Speaker 3>like hey miss seven a, you know, just like chilling,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like bring him, you know, because I want you,

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<v Speaker 3>like you shouldn't hide that part of yourself, your mom

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>and your mom who's just a killer CFO. But you're

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<v Speaker 3>still a mom.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes we have meetings and she's like you might

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<v Speaker 2>hear the kids. We're at the park. I'm pushing them

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<v Speaker 2>on the swing and I'm like, look, that's fine by me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they you know, It's just I wish more

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 3>there was more of an environment of that. The great

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 3>thing is I do have a really great support system.

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 3>My husband is awesome, and my team they're all they

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<v Speaker 3>all know that I'm working on having a kid, and

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, they have been awesome of like what

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<v Speaker 3>can we do that? They literally have like operation Tiffany's baby,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and so they're like, you know, so I'm fortunate.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like, yeah, So I guess it's more so

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<v Speaker 3>the nerves of like I'm one of five girls.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how my mother did it, one of

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<v Speaker 2>five girls.

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<v Speaker 5>Any of our mothers do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I don't know. I'm like, so you went to school,

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<v Speaker 3>you worked, you raised them. I just I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I could barely take care of myself, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>half the time. So I guess it's just a nervousness

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<v Speaker 3>of the emotional component of how to manage. Because, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>my publicist Drina, she's got a young son, and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember the first year or two which she would travel

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<v Speaker 3>with me to say if I was like shooting something

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<v Speaker 3>in La and she would travel with me she'd be

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<v Speaker 3>at the airport in hysteria, you know, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I love the baby, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like it was so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not as hard now, but it's still

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<v Speaker 3>really hard for her to travel and leave. So I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that's just a component. I guess she just never

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<v Speaker 3>quite get over that. And like you said, making sure

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<v Speaker 3>that when you do work that you're not gone as

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<v Speaker 3>long you know, well well, and I would.

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<v Speaker 5>Just say, you know, there's this real push in our

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 5>society to get women back to work sooner than later,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 5>and women, I think we also have that pressure on

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<v Speaker 5>it ourselves, like I don't want to miss out. I

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 5>need to go back to work, but to really if

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 5>there's one advice I would give you, is like after

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 5>you have your baby, to just give yourself permission to

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 5>feel however you want to feel, and to act however

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 5>you want to act, and not to feel like you

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<v Speaker 5>have to follow a script or some sort of timeline

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 5>to get back to work really quickly, Like your body

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 5>needs to heal, your mind needs to get refocused. Some

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 5>people call it like the fifth the fourth tri master.

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<v Speaker 5>You know where you've had your baby, but you're still

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you're not a hundred, you're not yourself again.

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<v Speaker 5>You know yet you're a different person. You're a different person.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not a lesser person or or you know, you're

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<v Speaker 5>just different. And so people sometimes don't give us the

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 5>required sort of space and attention and support in those

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 5>vital you know, months following birth, I member my doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>She said to me, I don't want your I want

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 5>you to have your feet up for at least a week.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't want you like and I couldn't help myself.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to clean, I wanted to, like hold the

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<v Speaker 5>baby a lot, I wanted to walk around. And that's

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, everyone's going to be different. But if you're

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 5>feeling like you need to slow down, slow it down,

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 5>you know you've earned it for new.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have to ask you about this one piece,

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<v Speaker 4>this one piece of advice you gave in that in

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<v Speaker 4>that story, which resonated with me and all. Since I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about it so much, I'll post a link to

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<v Speaker 4>that Refinery twenty nine column because it was so excellent. So.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a girlfriend who decided after having a child

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<v Speaker 4>that the job she was at she was unhappy before

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<v Speaker 4>she had the kid, and something about having a kid

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<v Speaker 4>as an option to hang out with versus being at

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<v Speaker 4>a job you hate just pushed her over the edge.

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<v Speaker 4>And she actually ends up believing that job and took

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<v Speaker 4>several months off and then started at home consultancy business.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you're in that post and you talk about

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<v Speaker 4>when if you decide to leave the workforce, you really

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<v Speaker 4>encourage and I don't want to put words in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 4>so correct me if I'm wrong or misinterpreting, but encourage

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<v Speaker 4>women to get back, like take time off. He'll be

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<v Speaker 4>with your family, but get back to being in the

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<v Speaker 4>workforce or at least in some way or shape, one form,

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<v Speaker 4>shape or another, earning wealth for yourself. Can you talk

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<v Speaker 4>about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that the foundation of that is just

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<v Speaker 5>that I want women to be financially independent, right, So

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<v Speaker 5>you know this idea that I'm just never going to

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<v Speaker 5>work again, that really frightens me, truly. I mean, unless

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<v Speaker 5>you have wealth coming in from an inheritance or just

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<v Speaker 5>you were independently wealthy, or you just saved a whole

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<v Speaker 5>ton of money before you had a kid, and I

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<v Speaker 5>do if I just you know, at the core of

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<v Speaker 5>everything that I talk about and teach and feel about

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<v Speaker 5>women in finance. Is just that women need their own

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<v Speaker 5>financial independence. And I know that after you have a

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<v Speaker 5>kid and your you know, mom and all, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not possible to always be in the workforce, but

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<v Speaker 5>to always have part of your brain thinking about your

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<v Speaker 5>re entry. And it may not look like the career

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<v Speaker 5>you had before having children, and it doesn't mean it

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<v Speaker 5>has to. But thinking about your own financial solvency as

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<v Speaker 5>a woman who now happens to also be a mother

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<v Speaker 5>is worth thinking about and is worth strategizing around. And

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<v Speaker 5>for everyone's gonna happen at a different pace. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not saying like it has to happen right away, but

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<v Speaker 5>it is. I don't want that part of them, that thinking,

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<v Speaker 5>that that sort of strategizing in your head to go away,

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<v Speaker 5>because I think that it happens for a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>mothers and dads too for that matter. A lot of

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<v Speaker 5>more fathers are becoming stay at home parents, and you know, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I have some pretty I guess, maybe controversial perspectives on

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<v Speaker 5>stay at home parenting. I think it just stems from, like,

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<v Speaker 5>I just want everyone to have financial peace and independence,

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<v Speaker 5>and you can't have it if you're not making any money,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't want kids to be an interruption to that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that kids are going to be sort of

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<v Speaker 5>in some ways like a shift in your path and

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<v Speaker 5>a good one. But like to always, I just, I just,

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<v Speaker 5>I just guess it comes from a place of advocacy

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<v Speaker 5>for women. You know, I really want them to think

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<v Speaker 5>about how they can continue to make money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And just to

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<v Speaker 4>close that story out, I'm so proud of her because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, she's had two kids since leaving her job. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>she had the one kid and then had a second

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<v Speaker 4>kid in December, and recently, they know, she started her

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<v Speaker 4>at home business and her previous employer called her up

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<v Speaker 4>because they were looking to fill a position. They actually

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<v Speaker 4>let go of the manager that was making it really

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<v Speaker 4>difficult for my friend to work there, and they just

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<v Speaker 4>hired her back. And she negotiated her a promotion and

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<v Speaker 4>a big fat raise and all the things that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of frustrated her about the job before, you know, no

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<v Speaker 4>telecommuting privileges, that kind of thing. She was able to

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<v Speaker 4>get that flexibility when they rehired her. So I'm super proud,

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<v Speaker 4>amazing and like she did it her own way.

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<v Speaker 5>I've heard a lot of anecdotal anecdotal feedback that like

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<v Speaker 5>employers love hiring mothers because they get they get it

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<v Speaker 5>done well.

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<v Speaker 4>We could talk to you all day. We're so grateful

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<v Speaker 4>to have you on the show for our new things,

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<v Speaker 4>for joining Usank

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<v Speaker 5>You so much and I'll come back any time.