WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Any Pro Bowlers? 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.560 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:17.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:21.480 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.800 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:30.120 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:37.479 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.920 It is Thursday, December twelve, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.400 number ninety eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.839 We're alive. We're in the s WBC Mortgage studios at 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.199 the Star. All right, Nick, Yeah, all right, Yet they 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.239 look on your face like you in deep thought, got 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:57.280 some good for us. No, that's not that's not a 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.640 great way to start the show. You suppose always pretty 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.200 honest for one, right, he was abbout to say, yeah, 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.560 I got something really good for you. Interesting stat. Okay, 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.760 throw it out there, yeah, throw out there. You know, 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.120 in the last thirty years, they've cut a kicker in 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.600 mid season five times. Okay, made the playoffs four times. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.120 M wow m The other time was nine and seven 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.160 missed it on the last week of the season. That 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.959 sounds more likely. Yeah, like as bad as things are, 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.039 and they're pretty bad. It's pretty interesting, weird stat if 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.520 you were gonna bet, if you were gonna bet right 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.399 now on playoffs or no playoffs, what would you pick? No, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.880 I think I'd still say yeah. I think i'd still 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.240 say I think I still say yes, not because they're good, 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.039 but just because of how little you have to do 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.160 to make the playoffs right now. Yeah, but you see, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.040 I will say this, I will say this. Somebody's I'm 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.920 glad it's not me for a change. I would definitely 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.720 still say yes, but I would be barely saying yes, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.880 Like I would be like, yeah, maybe they could, they won't, Okay, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.000 I don't know. I would say yes, But do they 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.000 win that playoff game? No? No, no, no, no, no no no. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.480 But I don't think anybody's necessarily saying that like that. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.720 But what what do y'all see? Like? How does it works? 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.720 Only three games? So we can break it down. I 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.480 think they got I think they win the two NFC 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:19.040 East team. Yeah, Eagles up there. I'd see an Eagles 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.560 team that is beyond banged up and heard Alshall and 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.640 Jefferies now and I are so they're not getting him 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.440 back and they got they got not a lot to 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.600 work with. I don't know where Lane Johnson's at, but 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:33.120 he's not at one hundred percent. Oh god, oh god, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.440 And what is he gonna like at this point? It's 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.600 not that Dez couldn't help somebody, but come in and 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.240 week fifteen and all of a sudden be ready to 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.680 keep saying on Twitter that he's ready. I don't know 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:48.000 how I see it. I mean, that's just about anybody. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.079 Anybody's stepping it, hasn't played football at how long. That's 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.079 just yeah, coming off an achilles by the way, that 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.679 the last time he was on the fields when he's achillies. Yeah, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.320 the Eagles are banged up, and the one thing Jason 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.840 Garrett is actually pretty good at is winning in the 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.480 NFC East. The Redskins obviously, I know, I mean they've 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.880 they're playing better. They pushed Green Bay the other day, 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.919 but I mean I still think the Cowboys can beat 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.600 him at home. Yeah, well, I mean the Redskins can 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:17.760 definitely win this Sunday against the Eagles too. Like Sures. Actually, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.840 Washington has been playing a lot better here these last 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.400 couple of weeks since the coaching change. I think, Yeah, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.600 I'm just I just I don't see any way the 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.079 Cowboys winning this game, not really. No came coming back. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.920 That's the thing they do not have to If Darren 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:37.200 Woodston comes back, you know and plays, maybe so, but 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.760 I don't as people may not see that he was 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.960 just walking by. That's the great thing about working in 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.520 this building, like just randomly people. Yeah, people just walk 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.360 past it. Like I'll be sitting in my office and 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.960 all of a sudden, Rod just stop back and walk by, 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.800 and it's like, oh, that was just rock. You know. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.160 That's it's cool. It is cool. What's weird is when 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:53.960 you're just sitting there and you and you look up 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.440 and then Rowdy goes by on a skateboard or something 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:02.680 like that, you know, like or Jason or Jason on Escape. Yeah, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.920 now that now we would all love No Worthy, We 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:07.880 would love to see that. All right, let's jump into this. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.840 Let's talk about some injuries. Catch up on where this 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.839 team is with regards to injuries. There were two guys 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.920 that did not practice yesterday, Sean Lee with a peck 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.760 and thigh injury or injuries, and Layton van Dress, who 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.760 we'd alred to talk about with the neck injury. Talk 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.560 to me about Sean. How serious is this because I mean, obviously, 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.080 if Layton's probably not gonna play, then you certainly are 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.680 really hard pressed to figure out what you're gonna do 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.520 if Sean Lee also can't play. I don't think it's 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.160 that serious, Sean. I mean, you know, Sean is Sean. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.880 We know all about his injury history, we know all 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.600 about how the coaches prefer to manage him to keep 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.560 him fresh. I'm sure he's banged up, but he was. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.000 He was upbeating the locker room yesterday. He was talking 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.360 as if he's gonna play. He was out of practice today, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.280 not practicing, but rehabbing with Britt Brown in his uniform, 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.600 kind of getting himself right. I think it's, like I said, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.720 I'm sure he's dealing with something, but I think it's 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.800 more maintenance than he might not play. All right, So 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.560 there were there's a whole litany of guys that ever 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.719 limited though any of these guys concern you, Michael Bennett, 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:10.719 Lyle Collins, Jeff Heath, Byron Jones, Chris Jones, Zack Martin, 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.880 Tony Pollard, Antoine Woods. I'll speak to Pollard. I saw 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:19.080 and return a kickoff just now at practice. He's good, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.160 all right, good to go. Jeff Heath concerns me like 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.839 his shoulders are. He's in rough shape. Like, kudos to 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.719 him forgiving it a go, but there's no way he 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.120 feels good. When when a safety has bumped shoulders, that 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.200 seems like a huge problem because your job is to tackle. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.880 It's like a linebacker, and I would assume every time 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:42.000 he makes a tackle it's extremely painful, right, I mean, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.720 that's where you get the impact, that's where you hit 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.280 your body first. That's well. I was just talking about 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.240 this with another writer and look, I mean, look, I 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.640 get it. The team's bad. I don't and these guys 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.320 make a lot of money. I don't expect you to 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.680 spend a ton of time feeling sorry for him. But 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.479 at this point in the season, the stuff these guys 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.680 do to be out there is nothing short of incredible. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.400 I mean, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence played half a season 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.799 with a torn laboram Jeff is doing something similar right now. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.520 Tyrone Crawford has played through stuff like that. A lot 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.520 of these guys are in a lot of pain, and 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.919 you know, like I said, they're paid well to do it, 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.000 but it doesn't make it less impressive that they can. Yeah, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.960 but Chris Jones, is there any concern there? Obviously your punter, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.920 you don't just have backup punter sitting around, he's also 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.559 your holder. Is there any concern with his injury? Well, 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.760 we'll find out. I mean with if there's concern here, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.720 then they're going to go sign someone. So if they 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.720 they don't do that, Like, I don't expect that to happen. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.920 I don't expect them to bring anyone on because if 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.280 they were concerned, they would have to bring someone in 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.159 like this week to try to at least on the 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.760 practice squad or something. Right. Yeah, I mean the fact 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.040 that and he was out there today in the fact 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.880 that it's all right Thursday, That's what I'm saying. The 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.159 fact that there really if there hasn't been any movement 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.760 on that front by Thursday afternoon, tells you something that's 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.520 not Forget the NFL is you know, really cracking down 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.359 on injury report Like if he wasn't on it and 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.800 all that, I mean, it just makes more sense to 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.920 put everybody on it that you possibly can, because if 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.320 you don't want a situation like what happened to the Lions, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.480 where you kind of something that creeps up quick and 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.200 then you put it on and then it's like, wait, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.600 why was any on there? So you just I mean, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.720 I'm not saying these guys aren't banged up, but I 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.960 think any of the slightest thing is gonna put you 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:26.960 on the list. 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It is the second segment of 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.120 The Break Life and Nest WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.280 we're gonna talk a little bit about Pro and we 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.120 do have to talk about it. This is the final 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.480 day of fan voting, So if you feel inclined as 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.520 a listener to go out and fill out your ballot, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.439 then take your time to go out and fill out 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:12.840 the ballot. But I did want to throw out some 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.680 names to you guys, get your opinions as to whether 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.320 you think they should or will make the Pro Bowl. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.160 All right, somebody they are. And so when I throw 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.000 out the name, I want you to tell me whether 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.560 you think they should and whether you think they will, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.600 because I do think a lot of these will have 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.000 different answers on should and will, right let's talk first 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:38.760 about Tyron Smith. Should Will I'm still gonna say should 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.520 yea and Will? And I think that's a testament to 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:46.120 how how good Tyron Smith is that this hasn't been 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.480 a phenomenal season for him by any stretch. And he's 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.920 I would, I mean, he's definitely one of the best 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.920 three left tackles in the NFC's to ask how many 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.319 games has he missed? I haven't any. I mean, okay, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.599 you got you got box tri in Green Bay, you 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.320 got which I've seen him this year, have some shaky moments. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.079 You got Armstead in New Orleans. He's dealt with injuries. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.600 It's two games missed, two games. I mean he's had 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.200 some penalties. Yeah, you know, he's had some penalties. He's 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:15.880 given up some sacks. I don't try to tell you 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.520 he's he's been at its best. I still think he's 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.480 one of the best two or three tackle left tackles 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.200 in the FC. Yeah, I think so. And I think 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.080 it's a testament to how freakishly good he is that 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.520 you know this is a down year for him, because 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.800 the vast majority of teams would take this season in 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.160 a heartbeat. So we're all saying should and will see perfect. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.040 We should have made this a sea an all right, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:40.520 Zack Martin should end will see still playing at a 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:45.040 really high level, Spide injuries again, still one of the 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.520 best handful of guards in football. Again. And it goes 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.360 down to like, if you follow boxing and you're the champ, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.000 you don't just get like some split decision and take 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.000 the title. I mean, you're gonna have to really beat him. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.080 And so who is better than I mean, Zack Martin 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.240 and Tyren Smith are two guys that are I mean, 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.360 they're they've been holding the belts for a long time. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.760 And again think of him like Quenton Nelson might be 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:07.800 a better guard than Zach Martin. He's in the AFC, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.559 and you got to think about it in terms of 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:15.200 conferences too. All right, let's move on Mark Cooper. Oh, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:22.000 that's Will. That's one of those I'll say, Will, That's 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.640 one of those ones where like we're in the bubble 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.000 so much that I can't even like, I'm I was 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.600 about to say, should. I think he's had a really 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.320 good year, but how does he stack up? I mean, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.480 Mike Thomas is gonna make it christ like a backup, 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:41.160 you know, like somebody else is unable to go right now. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.280 He's fifth in the league in receiving yards, behind in 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.679 the league behind Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans is 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.599 two from his hamp big Buccans say, I'll say j 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.480 DJ Moore and then Amari Cooper. All five of those 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.199 guys are NFC yea, yeah, DJ Moore is having a 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.240 nice year. Three of those are in the NFC South. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.199 None of those guys are beating out of Cooper and 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.760 all that like, like, except for Michael Thomas, except for 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:09.000 Michael Tomah And it's because of cowboys, which and that's 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.840 that's a huge part of it. He's a really good 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.360 play He's good. No, he's he's had a really nice year. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.640 I think he and I don't have a problem with that, honestly, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.719 And you think he should. Yeah, all right, let's move 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:24.960 on to um Dak Prescott. I think he I think 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.280 you will make it for sure because of all the 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.280 stuff that will end up happening. But I bet he 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.120 gets voted in anyways, Let's be clear about this right now, 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.640 he is number one in the league in passing yards, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.640 and I know everybody still goes back to you know again, 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.920 quarterback is the only position in the NFL where they 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.679 track win loss record or where people assigned and a 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.200 win loss record to a player. But all that being said, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.880 you look at just the overall stats and you're comparing 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.280 him to other guys in the league. He's right up 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.120 there near the very top with regards to especially in 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.040 the NFC, but right up there at the very top. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.560 You think about the other backs that are being mentioned 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.760 as those really great quarterbacks this season, they're all in 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.360 the AFC. Yeah, I mean, the one guy is Russell Wilson. 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.400 But when you look at the other guys that are 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.880 their teams are up there. You don't have to put 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.079 Cousins in. You don't have to put Drew Brees. And 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:16.959 he hasn't. He hasn't had a great year. If Breese 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.680 had had a full season, I would say, but he has, Yes, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.680 Jimmy Gee, I mean, I don't know, I don't know 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.560 what his stats look like, but they're very they're similar. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.200 I mean, he's got a thousand and fewer yards than Dak, 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.600 two fewer yards per attempt. I would say right now, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.960 the three would go would be Russell Dak and Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.040 and I and then one of those. I mean, I 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.320 wouldn't like I would have a problem if you tried 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.400 to name Dak first team All Pro and I mean 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.520 Pro Bowl has I don't want to say it's hollow, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.520 because I still think it's impressive, but it's just not 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.600 as hard to make a Pro Bowl these days. You 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.240 can make you can be the eighth quarterback in the 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.560 league and get in. And Dak has made the Pro 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.880 Bowls on the strength of lesser seasons than this, Like, 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.920 I mean, this is yeah, I don't have a problem 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.960 with him, Benn either. I think Zeke next, I think, yeah, 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.560 that's exactly where I was gonna go. Zekiel Elliott, same thing, 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.560 same I just I mean, who who else? I mean, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.640 I know he's fifth in the league and rushing in 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:18.520 the NFC. Obviously, Christian McCaffrey, obviously, Dalvin Cook, that's after that, 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.480 that's really I mean everybody else's and Ky Gurley hasn't 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.880 had an amazing season, and everybody else is kind of 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.280 part of a timeshare situation. You start going down the 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.840 list farther as far as yards would be there where 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.400 Zeke was. You got guys like Chris Carson, You got 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.440 guys like it's a lot of AFC guys. You have 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.960 to go all the way down to fifteenth. Aaron Jones. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.880 That's an interesting one because he has had I think 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.640 a really good year. I don't know if you would 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.760 say he's better. He's had a better year than Zeke, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.440 but he's had a really good year. He's got a 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.600 lot of touchdowns. Yeah, one way or another. I think 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:54.600 fifteen is his number. He's been pretty good. Um, yeah, 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.800 I don't how do you really judge this thing? When 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:03.240 as far as voting, how you looking just to the stats? Well, 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.800 there are two things. The fans vote based upon whatever 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.480 they mean. It's a popularity contest in some respects. But 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.800 then the other parts of the vote are the players. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.920 And I'm sure the players are necessarily worrying as yeah, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.360 and I don't think they're worried necessarily as much about 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.080 stats as much as they are when we played this guy. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.640 And that'll be a big part of I think how 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.680 fire players vote last year. Yeah, go ahead, just we 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.360 were saying thinking the same thing. A good example of 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.960 that which surprised me is that Byron Jones could get 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.760 in without making a pick, without getting interception. It's never 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.400 happened in Cowboys history, and so that that just goes 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.960 to show that it's not just stats. People are looking 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.440 a little deeper than I think. The advent of you know, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.000 everybody can watch all twenty two Pro Football Focus is 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.800 throwing out these grades every week. People are breaking down 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.280 advanced metrics, and I do think people are paying more 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.680 attention to just your baseline stats. But at the end 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.560 of the day, that still carries a lot of weight. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.520 So you know, we mocked the segment to start with, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.520 and here we are, we got like six guys going 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.359 I mean at this point, we we have not I 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.920 don't think we've not said any of these guys shouldn't 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.320 be going, right. Keep now go to the offensive line, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.720 A perennial Pro Bowler and Travis Frederick Well, I wasn't 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.200 gonna throw his name out because I didn't think that 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.400 he was play but let's talk about it. He's made 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.760 what four Pro Bowls? He's not gonna make it this year. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.240 Nobody's made more Pro Bowls in Cowboys history than Jason 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.000 Witton at eleven. You don't think there's a chance Travis 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.320 makes it just because he's a Dallas Cowboy. There is 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.080 a chance. I just don't think he would make it. 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.639 I just I'm gonna say no, I'm not sure, because 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.359 he did have a year removed, so somebody did have 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:40.119 to replace him. Kelsey in Philadelphia easy, the guy, I mean, 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.240 the rookie in New Orleans. McCoy's playing really well. I 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.480 don't yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to dog Travis. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.000 I'm not convinced he's played a Yeah, I couldn't see 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:50.480 Witten making I mean, I'm trying to think of the 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.200 other tight ends in the NFC. But honestly, got go ahead, No, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.359 you go ahead. I was gonna say, you definitely got Hurts. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.960 He's definitely gonna get in. I mean, if you're talking 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.640 about name and and just because he's been so good 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.080 the last several years, because he would be, but he 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.080 would be the guy that would get to NOD before 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.439 really a good year at all. He did not right, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.080 but he's not. I don't even know if he's got 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.800 more catches on his on his own team than Goddard. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.920 It seems like Goddard had Goddards, Goddard could be a consideration. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.200 What does this? What does this tell you? Though? That 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.400 answered the question that we were talking about earlier. For all, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.400 for all of their awards, Dak has played some really 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.480 bad games. The offensive line hasn't been on its level. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.000 We got let me throw something until you don't. I 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.440 don't think the offense is the main culprit in zach 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.480 Ert problems. This year leads the league in receptions for 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.959 we're tight ends. What yes, seventy nine? Next closes got 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.880 seventy five. Travis Kelsey, he just wasn't what what we've 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.560 been accustomed to him doing, Like he's been putting up 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.679 wide receiver type fantasy numbers in past years. This year 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.560 it's probably the same thing with Travis Kelsey. I had 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.119 him in my league and I was like, kind of disappointing. 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.800 But for a tight end, it's still I think y'all 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.159 are really good production spoiled by the fact that he 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.760 literally set all the records right yere right, Um, But 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.439 you got guys like George Kittle and yah Zac Garts, 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.159 and these guys are gonna get in. Even a guy 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.560 like Austin Hooper probably gets in before Jason. But I 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.600 will tell you this, Jason Witten right now is seventh 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.360 in the league in the league in receptions among tight ends, 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.440 and what is he in the NFC. In the NFC, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:30.800 that would be one, two, three, he'd be fourth, two 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:35.359 offensive linemen, the quarterback, the running back, and Amari. I 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.679 think that's that's on the offensive side. That sounds defense. 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.840 All right, let's not talk about the defense. No, let's 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.280 start talking about the defense. Uh, let's start with Tank. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.879 There's is nine of the guys that have more sacks. 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.600 I don't think either. And now he's made it with 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.560 less sacks. But this year, I mean no, I don't 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.760 think and I and I think he has. He has 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.439 played better than a lot of people want to give 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.960 him credit for. Still not convinced. That means Robert Quinn 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.000 he can't. He can't. Forgot his suspension was for for 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.600 portance enhancing drugs. So he's He's the one guy that 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.400 I would really feel adamant about putting in the Pro Bowl, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.960 and he can't make it. Sorry. Jalen Smith neither. No, 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.360 I'm sorry, Will, I'm sorry. Will. I forgot the game, Yeah, 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:25.920 I forgot. Should he probably? But I think, I honestly think, 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.560 I'll say he absolutely will make it to the Pro 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.920 Bowl because he's leading the league in tackles. He is 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:37.160 a Dallas Cowboy, and there's eight of them that get invited, 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.560 and somebody's gonna make the Super Bowl. Somebody's gonna have 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.560 a Nie Scope. Somebody's just not going to feel like 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.919 doing it. And so even if he's not the league's 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:50.840 first choice, eventually he'll make it. Here's another reason why 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.280 he will or he definitely could, is because you know 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.280 you have to kind of jump in there and beat 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.399 somebody out that's doing it for years. Well, one of 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.840 the linebackers in his way, he was late in Vanderish 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.399 and he's out for this year, you know, to not 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.159 make it in the Pro Bowl. So there's a spot 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.960 available that was there last year. It you know, it 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.359 definitely could happen. But you guys think he should. No, No, 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.639 I don't think even I mean do we I know, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.440 I know that we've seen a lot of plays where 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.879 were like, man, that wasn't very good, but it is 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.080 something to be leading the league and tackles. I mean 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.000 that that is something right that actually that that kind 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:27.800 of plays into what we were just saying about Byron 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.359 though like typically you're yes, that is like the metric 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.240 people have always used. But we have all of these 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.119 avenues to tell us the real story. Now, it just 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.399 it just doesn't mean it's much. I can separate my 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:46.240 feelings from just I just can't separate how I feel 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.800 towards him at this point. And then, you know what 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:55.600 really really bothers me is one the whole celebration thing. 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:57.920 And I'm not talking about this past game. You know 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.400 where he did come back and apologize. I'm not talking 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.600 that specific, man, talk about the zone you're talking about. 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:06.879 I'm talking in general general. You know, where the defense 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.680 is not necessarily performing well and the kawis are not 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.879 necessarily winning the game at that point, and then you 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.440 make it play and he's like, oh, let me swipe 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:19.080 or let me join somebody else's celebration. That bothers me 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.240 so much and it shouldn't, but it really does. And 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:29.359 it just it makes me not necessarily dislike him, but 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.240 when I look at him playing the way that he does, 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.159 it makes me be more critical of him. You know 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.720 that makes sense. Shout out to Brian brought us. I 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:43.840 think today is his birthday. Birthday he would have T shirts. 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.600 He had T shirts had a lot of sayings. He 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.600 has a T shirt that said f FOFL. First to 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.160 finish last. Yeah, finish first or finish last or something 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.800 like that, and uh, this is the year you would 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.520 wear that shirt. Yeah, okay, because they are fighting for 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:02.600 their lives. And I think people all have a problem 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:04.639 with with you know, this is the biggest game of 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.040 the year right now. I mean, you got it. You 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.880 got to hang on. And on Wednesday before the game, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.240 you've got a guy saying, hey, don't forget to vote 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.320 for me for the Pro Bowl. If it's his account, 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.040 if he runs it, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:20.800 because you know, if somebody is the ghostwriter of his account, 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.720 which is definitely could happen with him. I just think 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.840 that that's a bad look. It's tone death is what 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:27.840 it is, and it's him. I mean, it's it's not 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:31.800 aware of And then if he wasn't aware, then just 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.520 look at the comments underneath. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. It 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.240 didn't go well. So anyways, I mean, I think you 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.600 have a problem with that is what she's saying as well. 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.040 But as you know, do you know what the record 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:45.160 is for most tackles in a season for Cowboy? Oh gosh, 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:49.040 probably like one eighty something. Ye Eugene Lockhart two hundred 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:53.280 and twenty two tackles in nineteen eighty two twenty two, 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.639 they went one and fifteen that year. Somebody had to tackle. 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.119 Somebody made tackles on on a bad team, and you 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.200 probably get a lot more opportunities the worst of the team. 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.760 And that's that's what I'm saying. I mean, the lead 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.080 in the league. Does anybody remember do you even remember 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.400 the name of the tight end that went forty yards 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.800 on the screen in Chicago? I already forgot his name. 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.080 You know what I'm talking about, though? Right? Well, somebody 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.040 got credit for that tackle? Is that good? Is that? 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.040 I mean? Is that an impressive thing? No? I mean 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.720 there's something to be said for making tackles, but you'd 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:26.920 rather see tackles for a loss. That's not all that 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:28.879 that you'd want to tell you a lot more. Not 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.119 all tackles are created equal, right, Um, But I do 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.840 think the popularity of the Cowboys and the stats and 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.840 the fact that a lot of guys bow out means 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.280 he'll probably make it if I had to guess. And 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.119 let's also be clear about tackles that you know, the 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.800 NFL does their own set and the Cowboys, I mean, 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.320 the other teams do theirs. So he's got one hundred 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.919 and forty one total tackles. I bet you the NFL 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:57.359 list is less than that. That's discrepancy between team stats 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.919 and league stats is crazy because I'm ESPN credits him 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.479 with one hundred and twenty right now exactly, and right 0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.000 now that actually puts him second on I'm on the 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.960 NFL's website, and right now the NFL has him second, 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.800 tie for second. The guys ahead of him both NFC 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:15.119 guys Back Martinez and Bobby Wagner, Jordan Bay Seattle, and 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.160 then Jordan gets his tie with him one hundred and twenty. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.240 So there are guys in the NFC who have as many, 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.439 if not more tackles than him, and you would probably 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.520 argue that those guys are probably having better seasons as well. Yeah, 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.520 without some of the negative plays that he's had. One 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.040 of those guys is going to need biceps surgery, and 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:31.520 one of those guys is going to make it to 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.280 the Super Bowl, etc. So and if Jalen gets the call, 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.719 I mean he's in, oh for sure. Okay, one other 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.560 guy real quick, Byron Jones, should Will you know what? 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.159 I think? Byron is having a really nice season and 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:52.119 it's not fair. But like he rode the momentum of 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.600 that wind Street last year to the Pro Bowl, and 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.320 it was like, well, look how well their defense is playing. 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.000 And a big part of that is because this guy's 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.320 locking down his side field and they're not even looking 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.760 over there. But it doesn't feel as important when you're 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.159 not winning games or playing well. And so like he 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.160 was probably better last year, he was better last year, 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.920 but he's still playing well. But it just kind of 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.359 gets shoved aside when you're not winning games. It was 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.400 like an alternative to me, do you think And then again, 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.000 if somebody's hurt, somebody whatever, then maybe squeaks in. I 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:26.280 just think there's a difference between like, well he doesn't 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.320 have any picks, but look like he's locking it down 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.000 for this number five defense for a team that's eleven 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:32.959 and five. Did they go eleven and five last year 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.960 or ten and ten and six? And they were the 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:40.040 three seed in the playoffs, four seed, so four they 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.080 were they were seen as like a hot team riding 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:44.800 that way of going in the playoffs last year, and 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:46.440 this year, if they make it at all, they'll just 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.840 be limping in. And I think stuff like that matters. 0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.560 I agree. So basically, they're gonna probably have as me 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.639 when this thing gets announced, they're probably gonna have as 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.760 mini Pro Bowlers as wins. I've written that story before. 0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.080 Oh they had five wins at five Pro bowl I mean, 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.119 it'll happen like that. It'll be very close to whatever 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.120 their win total is. It to the Pro Bowls nine. 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.640 We were at six to seven on this on this list, 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.040 so it's gonna be the same. It's gonna be right there. 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.919 And there are guys that that because of their name recognition, 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.159 could still make that jump to fair I know, he 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.000 only has what four and a half five and a 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.560 half sacks, but again, Tank could see the same thing 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:22.360 happened for him, and he's been to the Pro Bowl 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.800 enough to kind of have the name recognition. Cam Jordan 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.520 could be in the Super Bowl. The Neil Hunter could 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.240 be in the Super Bowl. Like again, you kind of win. Know. 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.480 Then the list gets narrowed down as guys drop out 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.399 for various reasons. 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Miss WBC 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.320 Mortage Studios at the Star Nick don't miss a chance 0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.280 to take a photo with Santa at the Stars holiday 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.520 season on now through December twenty fourth, and go to 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.440 the Fans Team set on Fans United at the Star. 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.440 You also have to pick up some gear there along 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:12.240 the way. Visit the Star in Frisco dot com slash 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.560 Santa for some scheduling details. Check it out, check it out, 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.200 check it out. We want to do that. Oh, we 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.160 got that, we got the thing. We got to work thing. 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.160 But that actually might be a good time to do it. Anyway, 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.680 we could just run through there, shouldn't take long. You 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.920 can actually get an appointment. I'm here for it. We 0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:26.840 need to take that photo. You gonna be around the 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.760 while we've done the RAMS defense yet, Nope, what we're 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.240 doing here, we will. We're also scheduling our picture. Come on, 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.520 get in the freaking spirit of the holiday. I'm all 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.200 confused on our scheduling on our breaks here. I guess 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:42.960 pro Bowl took up a lot of the time there, 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.479 a lot more than we thought. If my mentions are 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.920 any indication of our listenership, they'd rather we talk about 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.080 coaching searches than the RAMS defense. Anyway. I just don't 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.560 think that's right with It's not the building, it's not that. No, 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.160 you're right, you're absolutely right. Not right. I'm just saying 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.680 if anybody's just chomping at the bit to hear this 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.960 Rams defensive preview tweet me because I bet you don't exist, 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.320 That's all I'm saying. But I am okay, you know what. 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.920 And we're professionals, damn it. Yeah, and that we do 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.560 our jobs no matter what exactly. We come to work. 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.640 We bring our lunch pail every day. The Rams are 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.320 good at defense and they've only gotten better since they 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.000 traded for Jalen Ramsey. That'll make you better. Only time 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.440 will tell if it was smart. Honestly, I still don't 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.840 think it was because why they gave up two first 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:33.040 round picks and they have not signed him yet. He's 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.320 not obligated to stay with them. I mean they can 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.360 tag him. But when's he up this year? Yes? Or 0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:44.440 sixteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen, so he's got He's got an 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.360 option year and left year. Yeah. So I got this 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.320 year plus another year. Yeah. It's a lot to give 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.680 up for a guy that you immediately have to pay, 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.960 much like a Marii Cooper, but they gave up even 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.960 more h and but he is right up there with 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.680 the very best cornerbacks in the league. It's just scary 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.440 and the Cowboys are going to have to face this 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.680 problem too. Once you start paying these guys, it's no 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.520 longer like it's no longer a fun little luxury that 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.320 you draft well. You have to like, you have to 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.200 draft well once you start paying these contracts. So I'm 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.600 fascinated to see how the Rams do it. But for now, 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.719 they have a lot of talent on their defense. Aaron Donald, 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.600 you know all about him. Jalen Ramsey, you know all 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:28.240 about him. Eric Weddle is there still a good player? 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.440 Obviously training towards the downside of his career. They kind of, 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.560 you know, I don't want to overhype him as as 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.800 Bruce Smith, but Dante Fowler they've kind of resurrected his career. 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.640 They got him from Jacksonville as well. Disappointment of a 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.760 top five pick, Clay Matthews, name after name after name. 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.200 Obviously not all of them are on that level, Like 0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:51.720 Clay Matthews isn't who he was in Green Bay. And 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.920 then a fun name that you probably remember from draft season, 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:59.240 which is Taylor Rapp fund stat that I pulled off 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.800 of Twitter. Taylor rap and Jalen Ramsey joined the starting 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:08.640 lineup the same week Week seven. Since that happened, the 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.440 Rams are allowing fifteen points per game, which is right 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.040 up at the top of the league, and they're actually 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.920 leading the sack leading the season, leading the league in 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.200 sacks since then, They've got forty three on the season, 0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:26.680 thirty since Week seven, which is very good. And Ramsey 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.440 is a huge part of that. Rap is a big 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.800 part of that too. It's it's pretty classic Wade Phillips 0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.120 in my opinion, Like you've got you know, he loves 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.760 cornerbacks that he can just stick out there. He won 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.600 a Super Bowl with to leave and Chris Harris and 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.560 Ramsey's right in that lane too. And actually Troy Hill, 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.600 who's playing opposite Ramsey now that Marcus Peters has gone, 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.000 he's doing his job really well too. And it allows 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.520 the Rams to just kind of freelance. Donald is doing 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.880 his thing and rap is really sorry, I know you're 0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.080 gonna but one more thing, rap Us, He's basically freelancing 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.360 as a little bit of a Rover do everything guy. 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.600 He's got forty tackles a pick, three tackles for the loss, 0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.600 and five pass breakups and he's only been starting since 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.799 Week seven. Sounds like something that Cowboys could use. Oh 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.880 no doubt. Well, I wanted to throw out two. You 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.080 mentioned these two guys, Dante Fowler and Clay Matthews. Right now, 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.840 I guess how many sacks those two guys have. Just 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.080 take a wild guess. Honestly, I don't even know off 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.680 the top of my head. Nine and eight. Yeah, there 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.400 you go. Yeah, yeah, and you got Aaron Donald to 0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.040 deal with in the middle. If you want any they 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.200 get after the quarter. If you want some basic math, 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.040 they're averaging four sacks per game since Ramsey came on board. 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.480 And I don't want to overstate it, but when you 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.400 have a guy that can take away the field like that, 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:48.160 it frees everybody's responsibilities up. So they have three guys 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:52.000 over eight eleven, nine, eight? Is that they're Yeah, I 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.120 don't know what he has eleven, okay, Yeah, so they 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.560 have nine and eight. Fouler has nine, Clay Matthews has eight. 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.200 That's the top three. Yeah, cowboys have nine and a 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:04.799 half five and four. Yeah, that's incredible, like Donald, that's 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.239 down production for Donald and that's more than but but 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:14.880 he gets double of course, that's exactly right. Yeah, it 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.680 looks very it looks very similar to what we saw 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.160 in the playoffs. Like technically I mean it's a three 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.880 or four defense, but that's misleading because you know they 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:25.960 can They'll put as many as five guys on the 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:30.040 line like Brockers, Donald and then their nose tackle um 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.680 guy by the name of Sebastian Joseph Day. Like they're 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.239 down all the time, but then Foller will come up 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.280 to the line, Matthews will come up to the line. 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.719 So it's very amba like Rap plays down with the 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.960 linebackers a lot. So it's it's very multiple, which I 0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.480 mean that that sounds like Wade Phillips to me. It's 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.840 you know, I think you know, Garrett Garrett said it 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.440 this morning. He was like, you know, they don't they 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.640 haven't really changed what they're doing. They're just doing it 0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.120 at a much higher level. With Jalen Ramsey, um, he 0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.000 you know, I would assume he's going to follow Cooper 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.680 a decent amount. It seems like they had him follow 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:10.880 Dk metcalf a lot last week. I'm concerned argue that 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.560 that Amari will have to deal with Jaylen because I 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.319 think back to the Science Game, and I think part 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.200 of the reasons why the Cowboys, maybe a big part 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.400 of the reasons why the Cowboys offensively really couldn't get 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.000 anything going was because of Mari was basically taken out 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.320 of that game. And I think Jayalen has the same ability. 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.640 Jayalen Ramsey has the same ability. How much you guys 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.400 are concerned that that will happen, and it will. The 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.719 Cowboys haven't really shown a propensity when they don't get 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.200 him involved, they haven't shown a propensity to be as 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.960 good offensively. I think you know, that caller called us 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.080 yesterday about like just getting the ball to Amri, and 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.880 I think we sort of disagreed with him. But this 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.399 is a game where making him a priority could pay 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:57.399 off because and obviously Jayalen Ramsey's super good. But DK 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.359 Metcalf had six catches for eighty yards in this game. 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.719 And that's the thing is like, it's not you know, 0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.359 he's not going to the house, he's not burning you deep. 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.400 But I think Ramsey's willing to give that stuff up. 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.319 It's like, you know, you can run your ten yard 0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.480 curls all day, I'm not going to give up the 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.560 big play on you. Like again, Metcalf had a decent day, 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.759 but he didn't kill the Rams defense. And I think 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.759 I think there's some willingness to give there just like 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.759 you know, make you make your twelve yard games all 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.080 you want, but I'm not gonna let you kill me. 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.360 And so but if you make it a concerted effort 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.800 to get Amari the ball, maybe by a pure volume 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.040 you can make a difference. But what does concern me 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.319 about that scenario is Ramsey's the kind of guy that'll 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.680 make you pay if you make a mistake. And if 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.680 Dak isn't pinpoint accurate, I'm talking he's off just debor 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.919 on time. Those those times this year when we've seen 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.120 him make a throw where the defender had hit his 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.520 hands and drop fell down, it ain't Ramsey. If it 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.279 is his hand, it's probably going the other way and 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:53.800 there's a chance it might go to the house. So 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.640 he's that kind of athlete and that kind of cornerback. 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.200 That's the part that concerns me a little bit of 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.840 the combination of both. He's going to begin pressure the 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:04.240 whole all throughout the game, right with all those defensive guys, 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.680 So at him feeling that kind of pressure and then 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:12.759 him being able to throw precise I just don't see 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:17.400 this going down very well. I don't know it definitely 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.400 that definitely concerns me. I think if I had to 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.319 rank all the concerns that you could have going into 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.600 this game, that probably right up there is maybe my 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.160 top concern going into this game for the Cowboys. A 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.680 lethal combination, you know, of the two of just like 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.719 she said, the Donald and those guys up there, because 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.680 you gotta get the ball out quick. And Jalen Ramsey's 0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.200 good enough where he's not gonna get beat quick, so 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.640 he's gonna be right there. And so it's gonna take 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.320 Amari Cooper running some great routes and they have to 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:47.440 scheme some guys open. Dak's accuracy, but his timing too, 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.919 like there have been so many instances where he found 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.120 a guy late and that enabled the cornerback to break 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.120 up the ball, etc. You know, he's he's gotten away 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.640 with a few potential interceptions and you can't count on 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.040 getting away with it against Ramsey. So it's gonna have 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.600 to be precise on timing and accuracy. And we know 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.600 this Rams defense can stop the run. Actually, you know, 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:11.880 talking about the Pro Bowl, Corey Littleton, who is like 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.840 not a household name by any stretch. He's right up 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.920 there at the top of the league in terms of 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.000 tackles as well. He's got like one hundred and fifteen 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:24.279 and like I mean, Taylor Rapp, the solidness of the 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.319 coverage on the outside, like he's freelances and he had 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:28.880 a great play from him last week where he just 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.440 basically diagnosed to play before he got going shot through 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.360 the gap and got the guy at tackle. Four losses. 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.680 That's the kind of stuff you don't regularly see from 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.520 the safeties here. I hate to knee jerk, and you know, 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.440 draft picks are about multiple years, but Taylor Rapp and 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.240 one Thornhill are both kicking ass and it's a bummer 0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.520 to watch. One of the things that can certainly help 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.480 you against a defense like this that seems to be 0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:54.840 very aggressive, especially getting after the rush the passer is 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:58.840 misdirection screened, those kinds of things. How much do you 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.759 think the Cowboys will be willing to do those Because 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:02.440 we've seen him in some games have a little bit 0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.560 of success. They haven't had the same sustained success doing 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.160 those kinds of things, but to me, it's because they 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.879 don't really stick to it. You think that they could 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.080 maybe stick to keeping them off balance by doing a 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.919 lot of those things to take advantage of an overaggressive defense. Well, 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:23.360 they keep saying this is under their control, They control 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.080 the situation, they control their own destiny, and they're still 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:30.200 writing this story. So I guess it's up to them 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.640 to really think, are they really willing to switch things 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.520 around at this point of the season or are you 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.840 going to stick to what you've been doing and clearly 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:43.160 not working. So it is up to them to where 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.160 do they want to go, what do they want to do? 0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.440 But I don't the Cowboys see when we talk about 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.480 the pressure that Dak is going to be feeling, that 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.480 is the kind of quarterback that he can't get rid 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.120 of the ball that quickly. It takes him time to 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.360 digest what is going on on the field, maybe not 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.080 because of his own doing, but guys maybe trying to 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.680 get where they need to. What do you think it's 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.760 he can't or do you think he doesn't because I'll 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.960 make the argument I think in a lot of instances, 0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.520 Dak is his own worst enemy in that regard. Not 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.279 because he's processing it's taking too long process. I think 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.440 sometimes he is waiting. He is waiting for something to 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.960 come open, rather than taking what's available to him and 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:23.239 that gets him into trouble. Yeah, well either way, it 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.160 still gives you the same result, which is it's not 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.320 it just it takes him way too long. So I 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:34.680 think that if they add different elements that allows him 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:39.080 to make throws short throws, not loan throws, and find 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.720 those guys closer and just take it little by little 0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.399 and then slowly get into the end zone. I think 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.440 that's gonna help the Cowboys big time and hopefully allow 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:53.320 the mistakes and lower down the mistakes and not allow 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.520 him to throw those kinds of interceptions or get the 0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:00.320 ball away and like Zeke and when they him be 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.040 dropping the ball creating those kind of mistakes that we've 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.800 seen him before. Because the Rams they're gonna take advantage 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:08.520 of it. They're gonna get that ball and get it back. 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.400 So I'm curious to see how the Cowboys managed to 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.440 come up with different types of plays to help him 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.319 them in this game. Well, we will see a real 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.759 quick which shouts out to Derek who threw this at 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:26.279 me on Twitter, which massive oversight Lyle Collins I think 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.440 deserves to make the Pro Bowl. Wow, I'm missing I 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.279 didn't even about that. I think that's an interesting It 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.880 goes back to our point though, is it's hard to 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.160 make the Pro Bowl for the first time, like you 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.759 gotta get think you gotta get there the first time, 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.480 and then it just kind of snowballs. And I remember 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.520 we had that conversation with Dez, we had it with Tyrn. 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.080 It sounds stupid in retrospect, but at one point it 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.840 was like, is he gonna make it this year? Like 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.400 he's played really well. I wonder, like, I hope this 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:52.800 is the year for Lyle, Like I mean he should 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.200 if somebody the best of everybody on the offensive line, 0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.600 he's right among the whole offense. I think he's had 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.040 the best season. And yeah, that would I mean, again, 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:04.879 the Pro Bowl doesn't mean what it used to maybe, 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.640 but that would be cool for him. Definitely. Go Tigers. 0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:09.800 All right, appreciate you guys joining us. We are back tomorrow. 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.680 We're gonna wrap this thing up for you and let 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.279 you know who we think is. I'm not sure your 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.640 Mike's working, to be honest with you, all right, is 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:20.480 it there? You go? Okay, we're gonna be back tomorrow. 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.239 We're gonna tell you what we think as far as 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.080 who's gonna win this game on Sunday until then for 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.120 Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.280 been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.839 This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.