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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December twelve, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number ninety eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're alive. We're in the s WBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. All right, Nick, Yeah, all right, Yet they

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Speaker 1: look on your face like you in deep thought, got

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Speaker 1: some good for us. No, that's not that's not a

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Speaker 1: great way to start the show. You suppose always pretty

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Speaker 1: honest for one, right, he was abbout to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got something really good for you. Interesting stat. Okay,

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Speaker 1: throw it out there, yeah, throw out there. You know,

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Speaker 1: in the last thirty years, they've cut a kicker in

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Speaker 1: mid season five times. Okay, made the playoffs four times.

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Speaker 1: M wow m The other time was nine and seven

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Speaker 1: missed it on the last week of the season. That

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Speaker 1: sounds more likely. Yeah, like as bad as things are,

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Speaker 1: and they're pretty bad. It's pretty interesting, weird stat if

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Speaker 1: you were gonna bet, if you were gonna bet right

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Speaker 1: now on playoffs or no playoffs, what would you pick? No,

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Speaker 1: I think I'd still say yeah. I think i'd still

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Speaker 1: say I think I still say yes, not because they're good,

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Speaker 1: but just because of how little you have to do

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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs right now. Yeah, but you see,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I will say this. Somebody's I'm

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Speaker 1: glad it's not me for a change. I would definitely

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Speaker 1: still say yes, but I would be barely saying yes,

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Speaker 1: Like I would be like, yeah, maybe they could, they won't, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I would say yes, But do they

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Speaker 1: win that playoff game? No? No, no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody's necessarily saying that like that.

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Speaker 1: But what what do y'all see? Like? How does it works?

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Speaker 1: Only three games? So we can break it down. I

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Speaker 1: think they got I think they win the two NFC

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Speaker 1: team that is beyond banged up and heard Alshall and

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Speaker 1: Jefferies now and I are so they're not getting him

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Speaker 1: work with. I don't know where Lane Johnson's at, but

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Speaker 1: he's not at one hundred percent. Oh god, oh god,

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Speaker 1: And what is he gonna like at this point? It's

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Speaker 1: not that Dez couldn't help somebody, but come in and

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Speaker 1: week fifteen and all of a sudden be ready to

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Speaker 1: keep saying on Twitter that he's ready. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how I see it. I mean, that's just about anybody.

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Speaker 1: Anybody's stepping it, hasn't played football at how long. That's

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Speaker 1: just yeah, coming off an achilles by the way, that

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Speaker 1: the last time he was on the fields when he's achillies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are banged up, and the one thing Jason

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Speaker 1: NFC East. The Redskins obviously, I know, I mean they've

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Speaker 1: they're playing better. They pushed Green Bay the other day,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I still think the Cowboys can beat

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Speaker 1: him at home. Yeah, well, I mean the Redskins can

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Speaker 1: definitely win this Sunday against the Eagles too. Like Sures. Actually,

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Speaker 1: Washington has been playing a lot better here these last

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Speaker 1: I'm just I just I don't see any way the

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Speaker 1: That's the thing they do not have to If Darren

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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that was just rock. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's it's cool. It is cool. What's weird is when

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Speaker 1: We know all about his injury history, we know all

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Speaker 1: He was upbeating the locker room yesterday. He was talking

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Speaker 1: as if he's gonna play. He was out of practice today,

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Speaker 1: there were there's a whole litany of guys that ever

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Speaker 1: this with another writer and look, I mean, look, I

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Speaker 1: get it. The team's bad. I don't and these guys

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Speaker 1: make a lot of money. I don't expect you to

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Speaker 1: spend a ton of time feeling sorry for him. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence played half a season

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Speaker 1: but Chris Jones, is there any concern there? Obviously your punter,

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Speaker 1: something to be leading the league and tackles. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that is something right that actually that that kind

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Speaker 1: of plays into what we were just saying about Byron

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Speaker 1: though like typically you're yes, that is like the metric

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Speaker 1: people have always used. But we have all of these

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Speaker 1: avenues to tell us the real story. Now, it just

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't mean it's much. I can separate my

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Speaker 1: feelings from just I just can't separate how I feel

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Speaker 1: towards him at this point. And then, you know what

430
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Speaker 1: really really bothers me is one the whole celebration thing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about this past game. You know

432
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Speaker 1: where he did come back and apologize. I'm not talking

433
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Speaker 1: that specific, man, talk about the zone you're talking about.

434
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Speaker 1: I'm talking in general general. You know, where the defense

435
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Speaker 1: is not necessarily performing well and the kawis are not

436
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Speaker 1: necessarily winning the game at that point, and then you

437
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Speaker 1: make it play and he's like, oh, let me swipe

438
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Speaker 1: or let me join somebody else's celebration. That bothers me

439
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Speaker 1: so much and it shouldn't, but it really does. And

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Speaker 1: it just it makes me not necessarily dislike him, but

441
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Speaker 1: when I look at him playing the way that he does,

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Speaker 1: it makes me be more critical of him. You know

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Shout out to Brian brought us. I

444
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Speaker 1: think today is his birthday. Birthday he would have T shirts.

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Speaker 1: He had T shirts had a lot of sayings. He

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Speaker 1: has a T shirt that said f FOFL. First to

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Speaker 1: finish last. Yeah, finish first or finish last or something

448
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Speaker 1: like that, and uh, this is the year you would

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Speaker 1: wear that shirt. Yeah, okay, because they are fighting for

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Speaker 1: their lives. And I think people all have a problem

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Speaker 1: with with you know, this is the biggest game of

452
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Speaker 1: the year right now. I mean, you got it. You

453
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Speaker 1: got to hang on. And on Wednesday before the game,

454
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Speaker 1: you've got a guy saying, hey, don't forget to vote

455
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Speaker 1: for me for the Pro Bowl. If it's his account,

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Speaker 1: if he runs it, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: because you know, if somebody is the ghostwriter of his account,

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Speaker 1: which is definitely could happen with him. I just think

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Speaker 1: that that's a bad look. It's tone death is what

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Speaker 1: it is, and it's him. I mean, it's it's not

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Speaker 1: aware of And then if he wasn't aware, then just

462
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Speaker 1: look at the comments underneath. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. It

463
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Speaker 1: didn't go well. So anyways, I mean, I think you

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Speaker 1: have a problem with that is what she's saying as well.

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Speaker 1: But as you know, do you know what the record

466
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Speaker 1: is for most tackles in a season for Cowboy? Oh gosh,

467
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Speaker 1: probably like one eighty something. Ye Eugene Lockhart two hundred

468
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Speaker 1: and twenty two tackles in nineteen eighty two twenty two,

469
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Speaker 1: they went one and fifteen that year. Somebody had to tackle.

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Speaker 1: Somebody made tackles on on a bad team, and you

471
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Speaker 1: probably get a lot more opportunities the worst of the team.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's what I'm saying. I mean, the lead

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Speaker 1: in the league. Does anybody remember do you even remember

474
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Speaker 1: the name of the tight end that went forty yards

475
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Speaker 1: on the screen in Chicago? I already forgot his name.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, though? Right? Well, somebody

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Speaker 1: got credit for that tackle? Is that good? Is that?

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Speaker 1: I mean? Is that an impressive thing? No? I mean

479
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Speaker 1: there's something to be said for making tackles, but you'd

480
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Speaker 1: rather see tackles for a loss. That's not all that

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Speaker 1: that you'd want to tell you a lot more. Not

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Speaker 1: all tackles are created equal, right, Um, But I do

483
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Speaker 1: think the popularity of the Cowboys and the stats and

484
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Speaker 1: the fact that a lot of guys bow out means

485
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Speaker 1: he'll probably make it if I had to guess. And

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Speaker 1: let's also be clear about tackles that you know, the

487
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Speaker 1: NFL does their own set and the Cowboys, I mean,

488
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Speaker 1: the other teams do theirs. So he's got one hundred

489
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Speaker 1: and forty one total tackles. I bet you the NFL

490
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Speaker 1: list is less than that. That's discrepancy between team stats

491
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Speaker 1: and league stats is crazy because I'm ESPN credits him

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Speaker 1: with one hundred and twenty right now exactly, and right

493
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Speaker 1: now that actually puts him second on I'm on the

494
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Speaker 1: NFL's website, and right now the NFL has him second,

495
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Speaker 1: tie for second. The guys ahead of him both NFC

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Speaker 1: guys Back Martinez and Bobby Wagner, Jordan Bay Seattle, and

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Speaker 1: then Jordan gets his tie with him one hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 1: So there are guys in the NFC who have as many,

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Speaker 1: if not more tackles than him, and you would probably

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Speaker 1: argue that those guys are probably having better seasons as well. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: without some of the negative plays that he's had. One

502
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Speaker 1: of those guys is going to need biceps surgery, and

503
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Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to make it to

504
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, etc. So and if Jalen gets the call,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's in, oh for sure. Okay, one other

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Speaker 1: guy real quick, Byron Jones, should Will you know what?

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Speaker 1: I think? Byron is having a really nice season and

508
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Speaker 1: it's not fair. But like he rode the momentum of

509
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Speaker 1: that wind Street last year to the Pro Bowl, and

510
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Speaker 1: it was like, well, look how well their defense is playing.

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Speaker 1: And a big part of that is because this guy's

512
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Speaker 1: locking down his side field and they're not even looking

513
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Speaker 1: over there. But it doesn't feel as important when you're

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Speaker 1: not winning games or playing well. And so like he

515
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Speaker 1: was probably better last year, he was better last year,

516
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Speaker 1: but he's still playing well. But it just kind of

517
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Speaker 1: gets shoved aside when you're not winning games. It was

518
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Speaker 1: like an alternative to me, do you think And then again,

519
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Speaker 1: if somebody's hurt, somebody whatever, then maybe squeaks in. I

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Speaker 1: just think there's a difference between like, well he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any picks, but look like he's locking it down

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Speaker 1: for this number five defense for a team that's eleven

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Speaker 1: and five. Did they go eleven and five last year

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Speaker 1: or ten and ten and six? And they were the

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Speaker 1: three seed in the playoffs, four seed, so four they

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Speaker 1: were they were seen as like a hot team riding

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Speaker 1: that way of going in the playoffs last year, and

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Speaker 1: this year, if they make it at all, they'll just

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Speaker 1: be limping in. And I think stuff like that matters.

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Speaker 1: I agree. So basically, they're gonna probably have as me

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Speaker 1: when this thing gets announced, they're probably gonna have as

532
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Speaker 1: mini Pro Bowlers as wins. I've written that story before.

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Speaker 1: Oh they had five wins at five Pro bowl I mean,

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Speaker 1: it'll happen like that. It'll be very close to whatever

535
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Speaker 1: their win total is. It to the Pro Bowls nine.

536
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Speaker 1: We were at six to seven on this on this list,

537
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Speaker 1: so it's gonna be the same. It's gonna be right there.

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Speaker 1: And there are guys that that because of their name recognition,

539
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Speaker 1: could still make that jump to fair I know, he

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Speaker 1: only has what four and a half five and a

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Speaker 1: half sacks, but again, Tank could see the same thing

542
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Speaker 1: happened for him, and he's been to the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: enough to kind of have the name recognition. Cam Jordan

544
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Speaker 1: could be in the Super Bowl. The Neil Hunter could

545
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Speaker 1: be in the Super Bowl. Like again, you kind of win. Know.

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Speaker 1: Then the list gets narrowed down as guys drop out

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Speaker 1: for various reasons. YEA, all right, we're gonna take our

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Speaker 1: final break. We'll come back and we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Dave's gonna tell us about their defense. We'll

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Speaker 1: But that actually might be a good time to do it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: need to take that photo. You gonna be around the

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Speaker 1: while we've done the RAMS defense yet, Nope, what we're

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Speaker 1: doing here, we will. We're also scheduling our picture. Come on,

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Speaker 1: get in the freaking spirit of the holiday. I'm all

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Speaker 1: confused on our scheduling on our breaks here. I guess

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Speaker 1: pro Bowl took up a lot of the time there,

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Speaker 1: a lot more than we thought. If my mentions are

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Speaker 1: any indication of our listenership, they'd rather we talk about

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Speaker 1: coaching searches than the RAMS defense. Anyway. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that's right with It's not the building, it's not that. No,

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Speaker 1: you're right, you're absolutely right. Not right. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: if anybody's just chomping at the bit to hear this

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. But I am okay, you know what.

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Speaker 1: And we're professionals, damn it. Yeah, and that we do

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Speaker 1: our jobs no matter what exactly. We come to work.

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Speaker 1: We bring our lunch pail every day. The Rams are

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Speaker 1: good at defense and they've only gotten better since they

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Speaker 1: traded for Jalen Ramsey. That'll make you better. Only time

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Speaker 1: will tell if it was smart. Honestly, I still don't

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Speaker 1: think it was because why they gave up two first

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Speaker 1: round picks and they have not signed him yet. He's

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Speaker 1: not obligated to stay with them. I mean they can

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Speaker 1: tag him. But when's he up this year? Yes? Or

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Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen, so he's got He's got an

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Speaker 1: option year and left year. Yeah. So I got this

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Speaker 1: year plus another year. Yeah. It's a lot to give

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Speaker 1: up for a guy that you immediately have to pay,

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Speaker 1: much like a Marii Cooper, but they gave up even

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Speaker 1: more h and but he is right up there with

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Speaker 1: the very best cornerbacks in the league. It's just scary

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are going to have to face this

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Speaker 1: problem too. Once you start paying these guys, it's no

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Speaker 1: you draft well. You have to like, you have to

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Speaker 1: draft well once you start paying these contracts. So I'm

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Speaker 1: fascinated to see how the Rams do it. But for now,

633
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent on their defense. Aaron Donald,

634
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: you know all about him. Jalen Ramsey, you know all

635
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: about him. Eric Weddle is there still a good player?

636
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Obviously training towards the downside of his career. They kind of,

637
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to overhype him as as

638
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, but Dante Fowler they've kind of resurrected his career.

639
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: They got him from Jacksonville as well. Disappointment of a

640
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: top five pick, Clay Matthews, name after name after name.

641
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Obviously not all of them are on that level, Like

642
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews isn't who he was in Green Bay. And

643
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: then a fun name that you probably remember from draft season,

644
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: which is Taylor Rapp fund stat that I pulled off

645
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: of Twitter. Taylor rap and Jalen Ramsey joined the starting

646
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: lineup the same week Week seven. Since that happened, the

647
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: Rams are allowing fifteen points per game, which is right

648
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: up at the top of the league, and they're actually

649
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: leading the sack leading the season, leading the league in

650
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: sacks since then, They've got forty three on the season,

651
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: thirty since Week seven, which is very good. And Ramsey

652
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: is a huge part of that. Rap is a big

653
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: part of that too. It's it's pretty classic Wade Phillips

654
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Like you've got you know, he loves

655
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: cornerbacks that he can just stick out there. He won

656
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with to leave and Chris Harris and

657
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: Ramsey's right in that lane too. And actually Troy Hill,

658
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: who's playing opposite Ramsey now that Marcus Peters has gone,

659
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: he's doing his job really well too. And it allows

660
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: the Rams to just kind of freelance. Donald is doing

661
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: his thing and rap is really sorry, I know you're

662
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna but one more thing, rap Us, He's basically freelancing

663
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: as a little bit of a Rover do everything guy.

664
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: He's got forty tackles a pick, three tackles for the loss,

665
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: and five pass breakups and he's only been starting since

666
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: Week seven. Sounds like something that Cowboys could use. Oh

667
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, I wanted to throw out two. You

668
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: mentioned these two guys, Dante Fowler and Clay Matthews. Right now,

669
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: I guess how many sacks those two guys have. Just

670
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: take a wild guess. Honestly, I don't even know off

671
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: the top of my head. Nine and eight. Yeah, there

672
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, yeah, and you got Aaron Donald to

673
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: deal with in the middle. If you want any they

674
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: get after the quarter. If you want some basic math,

675
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: they're averaging four sacks per game since Ramsey came on board.

676
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: And I don't want to overstate it, but when you

677
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: have a guy that can take away the field like that,

678
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: it frees everybody's responsibilities up. So they have three guys

679
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: over eight eleven, nine, eight? Is that they're Yeah, I

680
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: don't know what he has eleven, okay, Yeah, so they

681
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: have nine and eight. Fouler has nine, Clay Matthews has eight.

682
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: That's the top three. Yeah, cowboys have nine and a

683
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: half five and four. Yeah, that's incredible, like Donald, that's

684
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: down production for Donald and that's more than but but

685
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: he gets double of course, that's exactly right. Yeah, it

686
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: looks very it looks very similar to what we saw

687
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Like technically I mean it's a three

688
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: or four defense, but that's misleading because you know they

689
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: can They'll put as many as five guys on the

690
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: line like Brockers, Donald and then their nose tackle um

691
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: guy by the name of Sebastian Joseph Day. Like they're

692
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: down all the time, but then Foller will come up

693
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: to the line, Matthews will come up to the line.

694
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: So it's very amba like Rap plays down with the

695
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: linebackers a lot. So it's it's very multiple, which I

696
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: mean that that sounds like Wade Phillips to me. It's

697
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, Garrett Garrett said it

698
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: this morning. He was like, you know, they don't they

699
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: haven't really changed what they're doing. They're just doing it

700
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: at a much higher level. With Jalen Ramsey, um, he

701
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, I would assume he's going to follow Cooper

702
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: a decent amount. It seems like they had him follow

703
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: Dk metcalf a lot last week. I'm concerned argue that

704
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: that Amari will have to deal with Jaylen because I

705
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: think back to the Science Game, and I think part

706
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Cowboys, maybe a big part

707
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Cowboys offensively really couldn't get

708
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: anything going was because of Mari was basically taken out

709
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: of that game. And I think Jayalen has the same ability.

710
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Jayalen Ramsey has the same ability. How much you guys

711
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: are concerned that that will happen, and it will. The

712
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys haven't really shown a propensity when they don't get

713
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: him involved, they haven't shown a propensity to be as

714
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: good offensively. I think you know, that caller called us

715
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: yesterday about like just getting the ball to Amri, and

716
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: I think we sort of disagreed with him. But this

717
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: is a game where making him a priority could pay

718
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: off because and obviously Jayalen Ramsey's super good. But DK

719
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: Metcalf had six catches for eighty yards in this game.

720
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is like, it's not you know,

721
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: he's not going to the house, he's not burning you deep.

722
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: But I think Ramsey's willing to give that stuff up.

723
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you can run your ten yard

724
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: curls all day, I'm not going to give up the

725
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: big play on you. Like again, Metcalf had a decent day,

726
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: but he didn't kill the Rams defense. And I think

727
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: I think there's some willingness to give there just like

728
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, make you make your twelve yard games all

729
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: you want, but I'm not gonna let you kill me.

730
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: And so but if you make it a concerted effort

731
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: to get Amari the ball, maybe by a pure volume

732
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: you can make a difference. But what does concern me

733
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: about that scenario is Ramsey's the kind of guy that'll

734
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: make you pay if you make a mistake. And if

735
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Dak isn't pinpoint accurate, I'm talking he's off just debor

736
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: on time. Those those times this year when we've seen

737
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: him make a throw where the defender had hit his

738
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: hands and drop fell down, it ain't Ramsey. If it

739
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: is his hand, it's probably going the other way and

740
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: there's a chance it might go to the house. So

741
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: he's that kind of athlete and that kind of cornerback.

742
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: That's the part that concerns me a little bit of

743
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: the combination of both. He's going to begin pressure the

744
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: whole all throughout the game, right with all those defensive guys,

745
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: So at him feeling that kind of pressure and then

746
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: him being able to throw precise I just don't see

747
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: this going down very well. I don't know it definitely

748
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: that definitely concerns me. I think if I had to

749
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: rank all the concerns that you could have going into

750
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: this game, that probably right up there is maybe my

751
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: top concern going into this game for the Cowboys. A

752
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: lethal combination, you know, of the two of just like

753
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: she said, the Donald and those guys up there, because

754
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: you gotta get the ball out quick. And Jalen Ramsey's

755
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: good enough where he's not gonna get beat quick, so

756
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be right there. And so it's gonna take

757
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper running some great routes and they have to

758
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: scheme some guys open. Dak's accuracy, but his timing too,

759
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: like there have been so many instances where he found

760
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: a guy late and that enabled the cornerback to break

761
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: up the ball, etc. You know, he's he's gotten away

762
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: with a few potential interceptions and you can't count on

763
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: getting away with it against Ramsey. So it's gonna have

764
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: to be precise on timing and accuracy. And we know

765
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: this Rams defense can stop the run. Actually, you know,

766
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: talking about the Pro Bowl, Corey Littleton, who is like

767
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: not a household name by any stretch. He's right up

768
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: there at the top of the league in terms of

769
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: tackles as well. He's got like one hundred and fifteen

770
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: and like I mean, Taylor Rapp, the solidness of the

771
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: coverage on the outside, like he's freelances and he had

772
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: a great play from him last week where he just

773
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: basically diagnosed to play before he got going shot through

774
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: the gap and got the guy at tackle. Four losses.

775
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff you don't regularly see from

776
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: the safeties here. I hate to knee jerk, and you know,

777
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: draft picks are about multiple years, but Taylor Rapp and

778
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: one Thornhill are both kicking ass and it's a bummer

779
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: to watch. One of the things that can certainly help

780
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: you against a defense like this that seems to be

781
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: very aggressive, especially getting after the rush the passer is

782
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: misdirection screened, those kinds of things. How much do you

783
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will be willing to do those Because

784
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: we've seen him in some games have a little bit

785
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: of success. They haven't had the same sustained success doing

786
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: those kinds of things, but to me, it's because they

787
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: don't really stick to it. You think that they could

788
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: maybe stick to keeping them off balance by doing a

789
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: lot of those things to take advantage of an overaggressive defense. Well,

790
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: they keep saying this is under their control, They control

791
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: the situation, they control their own destiny, and they're still

792
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: writing this story. So I guess it's up to them

793
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: to really think, are they really willing to switch things

794
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: around at this point of the season or are you

795
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: going to stick to what you've been doing and clearly

796
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: not working. So it is up to them to where

797
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: do they want to go, what do they want to do?

798
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: But I don't the Cowboys see when we talk about

799
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: the pressure that Dak is going to be feeling, that

800
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: is the kind of quarterback that he can't get rid

801
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: of the ball that quickly. It takes him time to

802
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: digest what is going on on the field, maybe not

803
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: because of his own doing, but guys maybe trying to

804
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: get where they need to. What do you think it's

805
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: he can't or do you think he doesn't because I'll

806
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: make the argument I think in a lot of instances,

807
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Dak is his own worst enemy in that regard. Not

808
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: because he's processing it's taking too long process. I think

809
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: sometimes he is waiting. He is waiting for something to

810
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: come open, rather than taking what's available to him and

811
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: that gets him into trouble. Yeah, well either way, it

812
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: still gives you the same result, which is it's not

813
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: it just it takes him way too long. So I

814
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: think that if they add different elements that allows him

815
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: to make throws short throws, not loan throws, and find

816
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: those guys closer and just take it little by little

817
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: and then slowly get into the end zone. I think

818
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna help the Cowboys big time and hopefully allow

819
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: the mistakes and lower down the mistakes and not allow

820
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: him to throw those kinds of interceptions or get the

821
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: ball away and like Zeke and when they him be

822
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: dropping the ball creating those kind of mistakes that we've

823
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: seen him before. Because the Rams they're gonna take advantage

824
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: of it. They're gonna get that ball and get it back.

825
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how the Cowboys managed to

826
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: come up with different types of plays to help him

827
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: them in this game. Well, we will see a real

828
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: quick which shouts out to Derek who threw this at

829
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: me on Twitter, which massive oversight Lyle Collins I think

830
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: deserves to make the Pro Bowl. Wow, I'm missing I

831
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: didn't even about that. I think that's an interesting It

832
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: goes back to our point though, is it's hard to

833
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl for the first time, like you

834
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: gotta get think you gotta get there the first time,

835
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: and then it just kind of snowballs. And I remember

836
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: we had that conversation with Dez, we had it with Tyrn.

837
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: It sounds stupid in retrospect, but at one point it

838
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: was like, is he gonna make it this year? Like

839
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: he's played really well. I wonder, like, I hope this

840
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: is the year for Lyle, Like I mean he should

841
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: if somebody the best of everybody on the offensive line,

842
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: he's right among the whole offense. I think he's had

843
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: the best season. And yeah, that would I mean, again,

844
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl doesn't mean what it used to maybe,

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Speaker 1: but that would be cool for him. Definitely. Go Tigers.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate you guys joining us. We are back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap this thing up for you and let

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Speaker 1: you know who we think is. I'm not sure your

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Speaker 1: Mike's working, to be honest with you, all right, is

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Speaker 1: it there? You go? Okay, we're gonna be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you what we think as far as

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Speaker 1: who's gonna win this game on Sunday until then for

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has

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