WEBVTT - Postgame Show: Eagles Tie 23-23 Against Cincinnati 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.640 All right, well, neither team is adding a loss to 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.200 the lost column. Here. The Bengals and the Eagles tie 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.519 twenty three twenty three in overtime, and we are going 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.559 to break down. There's plenty to talk about in this one. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.160 A very unsatisfying ending in sports. When there's a tie. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:50.640 For me, it just doesn't feel like it should. There 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.080 should always be a winner and a loser. But let's 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.160 discuss this one. Thank you for joining us on the 0:00:55.200 --> 0:01:01.040 postgame Show presented by Rico, Amy Campbell, Friend, Duffy Ike Grease. Guys, 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.840 where do we even begin on this one? Let me 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.360 start with you. How do you feel about a tie 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.760 in this one? How? How am I supposed to be 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:16.120 feeling happiest, sad? Neutral? No, No, you should feel sad 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.760 as an Eagles fan. I mean that's you know, and 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.160 taking nothing away from the Cincinnati Bengals. But if you're 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.280 looking at the big picture and what we hoped this 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.759 Eagles football team could be this year, I think if 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.520 it wasn't clear to us in the first two weeks, Amy, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.360 I think going up against an owing two Cincinnati Bengals 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.600 team at home when they're starting a rookie quarterback and 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.399 Joe Burrow, and you can't find a way to get 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.000 a win at home, plenty of opportunities to do that. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.800 You walk away with a tie. It feels like a 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.600 loss because what it feels like to me is is 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.200 that I can't dream about a championship right now. I 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:03.400 can't think about posting season play right now. Uh. It's um, 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:09.119 it's frustrating not knowing what this team could be this year, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.680 and right now at the three weeks, the sailing at 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.800 least for this particular team uh does not look like 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.760 is very high. And that's that's disheartening if you're an 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.880 Eagles fan right now. All right, I'm gonna sit in 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.799 my sad feelings then, and Fran let me go to you. Uh. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.040 At the end of overtime, there the decision to go 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.760 for a sixty four yard field goal after the false 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.640 start that backed them up from fifty nine yards I 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.280 think it was sixty four yards, uh, and Doug Peterson 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.640 elects to punt it away and take the tie. This 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.480 is probably gonna be a big talking point this week 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.000 around here. I'm guessing yeah, I would say so. UM. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.960 You know, obviously, there's not a lot to say about 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.200 what happened in the last few seconds of that game. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.680 I mean inexcusable penalty from Matt prior in that situation 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.480 to take that false start penalty, regardless, I know there 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.040 was movement from the defensive line and things like that, 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.560 but to have that kind of penalty and then even 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.560 you know what happened on the first down after the 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.880 big play to Zach Ertz getting that penalty or having 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.240 to spend that time out right after that play just 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.839 self inflicted wounds, right. I mean, we say this all 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.919 the time after Eagles losses. You say it on offense, 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.560 you say it on defense, on special team. You know that, 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:21.920 you know, three minutes of real time at the end 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.600 of the game. That's tough to swallow. And that's that's 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.280 why I agree with Mike. If you're an Eagles fan, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.280 it's tough. You can't walk away from this happy with 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.680 a tie. I mean, that's you can't. I know it 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.799 wasn't a loss, but it does not feel good right now, 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.400 and it's it's not going to feel good this week. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.920 Still nothing in the win column for either team, So 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:39.960 that speaks to your point as well. And look, when 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.800 you look at the Eagles defense, big stop after big 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.360 stop after big stop, especially during that overtime eight sacks 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.440 on Joe Burrow, still unable to get in the win column. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.520 Let's go now to Dave Spadero, Eagles insider. Dave, we 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:53.840 were hoping we were going to be in a great 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.880 mood when we had this postgame show. That's what we 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.480 mentioned earlier in the kickoff show. But let's just get 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.800 your initial thoughts on this and and just the vibe 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.560 kind of in there at Lincoln Financial Field. I mean, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.080 there's no vibe because there's nobody here, but it was 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.720 heartening to see the way that Carson Wentz led the 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.560 team down the field at the end of regulation, and 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.960 then the way they mishandled overtime was really difficult to see. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.279 This is a veteran coaching staff that is preparing players 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.840 for every scenario. Did not prepare the Eagles, is Fran 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.120 alluded to. After the zach Ertz big catch and then 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.599 the false start from Matt Pryor that is, you know, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.320 JP goes down at on that sneak from Carson Wentz, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.880 the Eagles are in prime position, with plenty of time 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.279 on the clock to put themselves in field goal position. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.080 By the way, no wind at all in the stadium, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.280 So that was an opportunity for Jake Elliott to have 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.920 a long field goal, opportunity to make a field goal. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:55.159 So but then also beyond that is the carnage that 0:04:55.240 --> 0:05:01.400 this team incurred once again. Dallas Goddard ankle injury, DeShawn 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:06.719 Jackson hamstring injury, Avonte Maddox ankle injury. JP at the 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:07.960 end of the game goes down and has to be 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.240 helped off the field. So you know, Carson is throwing 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:15.360 to Deontay Burnett, He's throwing to Greg Ward, He's throwing 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:20.880 to John high Tower, Richard Rogers. I know the stat 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.719 that I saw during the game was something like two 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.600 out of one hundred and forty six teams that start 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.719 of the season, oh and three made it to the playoffs. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.040 I don't, however, know the statistic of zero two and one, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.360 and that's why I will say that this is not 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.280 as bad as a loss. It was poorly managed. At 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.560 the end of the game, the offense still sputtering. I 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.560 felt a little twenty nineteen Giants game Monday night here 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.279 when the Eagles turned it around. They're late, but you 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.960 walk away with a bunch more injuries and a very 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:55.080 unsatisfying feeling. Well, Dave, you touched on a lot there 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.720 and a lot to kind of respond to. I guess 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.720 the first thing you talked about Carson Wentza and the 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.840 heartening feeling of him kind of leading that team down. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.200 He runs in for the touchdown to tie the game late. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.320 I know there was no fans in the stands, but 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.840 being there watching alive, did you kind of get that 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.760 sense that momentum was started to go their way? Oh? Absolutely, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.240 And I really liked by that time, friend, I was 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.360 actually in the stands section one. Oh wait, I felt 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.400 like I was a good luck charm. It was the 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.240 first time I've ever been in the stands for extended 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.400 period of time in my life for an Eagles game, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.960 and it was really fun. But I like Carson getting 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.839 out of the pocket and running, and you know, that 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.880 is just something that that's another element here. I like 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.479 the Jalen Hurts package. I like you, you've got to 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.640 be creative when you're throwing to a receiving core that 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.719 is not experienced, that doesn't really have the deep threat. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.120 So I thought the Eagles did that pretty nicely, and 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.760 I thought Carson responded late and then he even put 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.640 them in position twice in overtime in Cincinnati's side of 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.640 the fifty yard line. But at the end of the day, 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.240 as I said, you've got to find a way to 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.760 put away a team that's oh in two. The Cincinnati Bengals, 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:02.840 a young team, and the Eagles just couldn't do that. Yeah, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.360 they It is great the way they continued to fight 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.960 in this game. They show some resiliency, but still early 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.040 in the game Dave missed opportunities and turnovers at the 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.960 quarterback position still an issue. If you don't have those, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.240 maybe this isn't a tie game late late in the 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.160 fourth quarter. Yeah, I mean, look, Carson struggling, there's no 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.080 doubt about it. Two bad interceptions, one tiped of course, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.200 then he misses Miles Sanders on the sideline route when 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.480 Sanders had a two step advantage in coverage. That would 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.720 have been a touchdown. And so you know, we are 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.440 still wondering about Carson Wentz. What is going on here? 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.720 Foot rolling left, throwing right, I mean throwing, body position contorted. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.240 There's certainly a lot of things to worry about. The 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.680 Eagles going away from the run game for an extended 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.560 period of time, in the second quarter after they had 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.960 gashed Cincinnati early in the game with Miles Sanders. So yeah, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.119 I mean, I'm not sitting here content. I'm not sitting 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.480 here happy, but I'm telling you that the Eagles at 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:05.520 least salvage something from this game. My big picture worry 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.360 is that there are a lot more injuries. This team 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.240 is playing with a skeleton crew, certainly at the wide 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.400 receiver position, and when you lose a Dallas Goddard, you're 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.760 losing a big part of the offense. David, I want 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.280 to go back to to that last stretch in overtime, 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.160 and you mentioned you were sitting in the stands in 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:23.640 section one to wait. I'm not sure if you were 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:27.640 there for the final conclusion, but we're kind of the takeaways. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.040 I obviously, with no fans there, you're able to kind 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.400 of hear all the mechanicians happening on the sideline on 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.400 the field, what was going on. I think it was 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.760 poorly handled, you know, whether it looked at If you're 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.480 going to coach everybody to be prepared for every different scenario, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.880 that's one of them. You're going down to the end 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.120 of the game, you're trying to manage the clock, you've 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.160 got no timeouts left, a player goes down. See, that 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.920 was the unfortunate part. It was a really smart challenge 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.760 by the Bengals, or I guess it was by the 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.880 officials at that point to look at the spot. So 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.280 instead of a first and ten from the forty five, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.520 the Eagles had to do call a quarterback sneak and 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.040 that's where Jason Peters gets hurt and ten seconds go 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.839 off the clock. You'll lose your left tackle, you've got 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.680 to shuffle your offensive line again, and you suffer the 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.280 false start penalty. So it's just, I mean, just an 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:18.280 unfortunate series of events. But you've got to be ready 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.600 for moments like that, and the Eagles just did not 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:26.079 execute in that situation. Fran golden opportunity twice in overtime 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.120 to steal a victory, and no doubt about it, this 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.840 would have been a stolen victory because the Bengals played 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.400 better for most of the game. That's a great point there, Dave, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.720 And yet, like you said, just unable to capitalize on 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.719 those opportunities, especially down the stretch, with the opportunity to 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.200 put the game away. All right, we're gonna let you go, Dave. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.280 Thanks so much for your insight. We'll keep holding it 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.480 down here on the postgame shows, we break it down, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.559 all right, guys, All right, I'm gonna go to you 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.959 now to get started on your three takeaways. Hard to 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.880 have only three after a game like this, But what's 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:02.520 the first one? Yeah, I mean, he missed opportunities early 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.760 in the game. You know, Dave mentioned the stopping gold route, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.560 the mouse Sanders had out there on the linebacker where 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.480 he beats the linebacker by a couple of yards, and 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.000 that's a throw Carson has to make. I mean, take 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.080 your time, make that throw. There's no pressure on him. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.160 He has the ability to make that throw, and he 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.720 completely overshoots him by three yards. That's a possible touchdown. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.719 Not just a big game there, but that's a touchdown potentially. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.360 They're on that play and an opportunity to get back, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.600 get back ahead of this game and possibly not even 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.880 go into overtime if they connect on that play. And 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.959 then there's a throw also early in the game where 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.719 he could have hit zach Ertz and he just missed him. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.800 I just think that when you have an opportunity to 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.120 make big plays and you're struggling at the quarterback position. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.040 You have to be able to make them when they're there, 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.080 and there were some opportunities, much like they have been 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.400 in the first three weeks of the season, and we're 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.559 just not capitalizing on them in the passing game. And 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.920 when you start to lose more and more of your 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.200 best players at the skill position, those opportunities are going 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.160 to be far and few, and who knows how many 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.120 of those you're gonna get the rest of the day. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.600 There weren't very many of those left after that Mouse 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:21.920 Sanders play with Deshaun Jackson being injured. So that's something 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.760 that I noticed that if you just hit on those plays, 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.319 this game may not even get the overtime. Well, look, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.240 you could see the frustration on Carson Wentz, his face, 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.440 his entire body language. I don't know if I've really 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.000 ever seen him look so frustrated on the sideline there, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.200 especially down the stretch when he had Miles Sanders wide 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.840 open and overthrew him. He looked so frustrated, So fran 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.480 you could see that there were just missed opportunities at 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.560 in those big moments, and a big part of that too, Amy, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.440 you know, the first half, I mean, he was under 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.880 to rest really from the jump. I mean, the pass 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.320 rush of that Cincinnati Bengals defensive line got to Carson 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.240 Wentz a lot more than I think many every buddy 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.719 would have liked to see, right. I Mean, you saw 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.240 what carl Lawson was able to do coming off the 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.480 Eagles left side against Jason Peters. You know, Carlos Dunlap 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.760 was in the backfield there. There was just too much 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.640 heat on Carson Wentz early in this game. He was 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.199 never really able to get into any kind of rhythm. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.360 And by the time the offensive line kind of you know, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.480 the protection schemes got things figured out. I mean we 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.959 talked about the missed opportunities. To me, one of the 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.319 positive things from this game too, you know, just to 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.720 kind of look at it on the other side defensively, 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.360 the way that they were able to turn around you know, 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.400 Darius Slays in and out. You had some injuries on 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.199 that side, Ivante max Is out of the game. What 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.599 they did in overtime to even give the Eagles a 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:41.120 chance to win this game, uh prevented Cincinnati from flipping 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.079 the field twice, was able to kind of you know, 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.680 force negative yardage. They get a fourth and twenty two. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.120 What the defense was able to do on the back 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.679 end of this game, especially in overtime, certainly a good sign, 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.559 you know, when you look at how they were able 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.199 to kind of bounce back. The offense and special teams 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.960 just unable to come through for them. Yeah, I think 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.120 that's a great point and plenty to break down in 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:06.239 this defensive performance, especially down the stretch, especially in overtime. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.520 Stop after stop after stop. We saw Darius Slay get 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.840 banged up, he comes out, he comes back in, makes 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:16.439 several big stops in overtime. The defensive line, Brandon Graham, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.360 Fletcher Cox, Joe Burrow was sacked eight times. It was 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.199 so much pressure that they were getting on him. And look, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.240 you even mentioned Avonte Maddox goes out, Trevor Williams steps in, 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.560 they go at him. The very next play, he has 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.240 a nice pass breakup in the end zone. We just 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.839 saw Marcus steps there with another pass breakup in the 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.120 end zone. A lot of a lot of big moments 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.079 here from this defense that the offense wasn't able to 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.719 get the job done, but the defense continue to put 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:46.679 them in that position. Yeah. I like what the defense did. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.079 I like the game plan from Jim Schwartz today. You know, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.439 even though you got a young quarterback back there and 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.480 the offensive line is banged up, the struggle to protect him. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.319 You know, conventional wisdom may say you don't need to 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.679 bring X guys, you should be able to get home 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.719 with your front four. But I like the mixture of 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.640 a fifth or sixth rusher to give Joe Burrow something 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.640 different to look at. And then also there were plenty 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.200 of times where they got home with just their front 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.839 flour So I like what the defense was able to do. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.200 There probably was maybe a quarter in the game where 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.920 I thought we were giving up a little bit too 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.320 much and Joe Burrow was a little bit too comfortable 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.360 back there throwing the football. But when it came time 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.800 to make the big plays and get the big stops, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.640 the defense was able to do it. Today. The one 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.360 thing I'll say, Amy, if I'm a nitpick at the 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.480 defense and they're eight sacks, I would have loved to 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.280 get a stripped sack there, get that ball on the ground, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.640 find a way to get a turnover off this Cincinnati team. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.640 That really was the difference when you think about it. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.160 Eight sacks on Joe Burrow, but no turnover to day. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.960 He didn't fumble the ball, he didn't throw an interception, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.320 and the extra possession on a short field would have 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.040 been nice to have for this Eagles offense. I mean, 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.520 that's a great point, and brand I'll let each touch 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.320 on that as well. That was Dave's key to the 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.800 game was to win the turnover battle against Still zero 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.280 takeaways for this defense with all the big plays, all 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.600 the big stops today. And then of course two interceptions 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.000 for Carson Wentz, bringing his total to six on the 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.680 season after having seven all of last year. Yeah. Yeah, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.160 And you know, Ike, you did a great job this 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.880 week on Eagles Game Plan talking about, you know, defending 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.840 Joe Burrow in those empty sets. We saw a lot 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.640 of it. I talked about it here on the Kickoff 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.400 show as well before the game here and with Amy, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.520 and it was all about disrupting the timing, and we 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.240 talked about, you know, the coverage has to be tight. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.000 I thought that Joe, that Jim Schwartz and this defensive 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.520 staff did a great job of kind of making him think, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.400 making it, you know, disguising coverages, disguising blitzes. We saw 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.680 a different a number of different pressure looks from the 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.080 Eagles in this game on third down when the Bengals 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.000 weren't empty, And I thought that was a really well 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.720 well executed game plan from Jim Schwartz and from this 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.320 defensive staff, which was certainly good to see after what 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.520 happened last week against LA. But I agree with you, alike. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.320 I mean, what the difference between a good defense and 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.760 a great defense Turnovers? Big plays? Right, you know, if 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.080 you you got to prevent the big play, no question, 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.520 but creating some big plays for your offense is also 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.840 what kind of takes that defense up in the next 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.560 actually actually the next echelon. And I think when you're 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.360 talking about run defense, sacks, you know, TFLs, those are 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.720 all well and good, but you know, getting those strip sacks, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.640 getting those turnovers, that's what this off That's what this 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.720 whole team honestly needs. Right now. All right, let's get 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.960 to your second takeaway, Ike, Yeah, turnovers. I mean, we 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.040 just really talked about it there, and it's on both 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.840 sides of the ball. Obviously, the Eagles you can't turn 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.200 the ball over. You lead the league and plus minus 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.520 differential from the turnover category, what are we plus seven 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.840 or no? Minus seven? I'm sorry, minus seven to where 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.520 we're giving the ball away seven times and only I 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.520 mean eight times, and only taking it away once, and 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.920 that was on special team. So two more interceptions today. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.360 The first one I won't necessarily fault him. His arm 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.440 was hit linebacker right there in the throwing lane. You 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.520 get an interception there. But the interception where he was 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.000 throwing the ball to Zach Ertz, that's just poor ball placement. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.120 That ball has to be placed on the outside where 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.080 only Zach can catch it, or it's thrown out of bounds. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.280 There's no way you can throw that ball on the inside. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.320 Poorly executed throw from Carson Wentz. I've already we just 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.680 talked about the defense and how great it was for 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.440 them to get sacks and everything on Joe Burrow today, 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.840 but it would have been nice to get a short 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.560 field for this offense to sort to work with. And 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.679 that's gonna be important for them going forward, guys, because 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:44.760 without explosive plays and without any missing to Sean Jackson, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.280 we don't know how long he's going to be out 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.360 in Dallas Goddard. This offense is gonna need short fields 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.240 in order to get touchdown, so they're gonna need takeaways. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.680 From their defense and their offense must do a better 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.159 job protecting the ball. Well, just as I'm looking at 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.200 my notes, one of the things I wrote, I think 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.119 I might have written this around the third quarter, but 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.960 I wrote on offense, everything feels hard. It just feels 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.320 like everything was such an effort to just move the 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.080 chains even a little bit. And look, there are big injuries, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.560 there are the struggles that Carson's going through, there's the 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.120 offensive line, there's there's Deshaun's out, there's ragers out, there's 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.320 all these different factors, but it just still felt like 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.639 it was the slogging through. It wasn't this just free, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.720 wide open offense that we have hoped to see and 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.280 have seen at times from from the Eagles. Fran Yeah, 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.200 I mean it clearly. It's just it's just not clicking 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.240 right now, especially in the passing game. You know, we 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.240 talked to how important it was your key to the 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.159 game going in Amy was going to be able to 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.440 get the running game going. We did see a little 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.640 bit of that, especially in the first half. They didn't 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:47.600 get quite the amount of movement I think that they 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.840 were hoping for. In the second half, Cincinnati kind of 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.119 put the clamps down early in the second half on 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.720 the run game. But yeah, I mean when you're talking about, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.600 you know, the pass game, it's I mean, it's just 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.520 not clicking right now, guys. And I'll throw everything in there. 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.359 You talking about pass protection. The quarterback play has not 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.560 been great that there have been drops. It's just the 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.719 passing game is just not clicking right now. Well, when 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.199 you talk about getting the running game going, Miles Sanders 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.080 ninety five yards today, Carson Wentz rushed for sixty five 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.480 yards today. So, uh, that's something. I think that's a 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.720 really high number for him. I don't remember the last 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.520 time he did that. Um, I read it was it 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.920 was I saw somebody tweeted the stat. It's been a 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.800 while since he since he rushed for that many yards. 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.840 I you look like you want to come in on 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.520 that one. Is that is that team a ltt B 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:36.800 l LBBT, whatever that is. I just think I just 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.400 think it was needed today. It was needed. Um, He's 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.159 gonna have to do more of that. I mean, this 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.920 offense lacks u big play making ability right now, and 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.520 until they find sort of a rhythm with the passing game, Carson, 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.600 whenever they give you man coverage and the defense has 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.520 his back turn to you. You gotta take off. I mean, 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.280 it's what it's what the offense is called all for. 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.280 I mean, what we saw the last four weeks of 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.159 the season last year, for the five weeks of the 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.840 season last year, is what we're about to see for 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.600 the next few weeks until until they can get all 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.400 of their players back on offense, it's gonna be all 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.879 hands on deck and Carson's gonna have to run and 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.440 throw in order for this offense to be able to 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.879 move and get the ball in the end zone. All right, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:30.919 let's get to your next takeaway. Yeah, lack of explosiveness 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.399 from the from the offense. I just mentioned it, Amy 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.800