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Speaker 2: Tis then welcome to hang out game week. It's finally here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the first week of the regular season. Opening

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Speaker 1: We have our preview episodes. Really we previewed every division.

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Speaker 1: AL win totals today, will go over or under each team,

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Speaker 1: And then we've got our opening day preview. Peter Arum

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Speaker 1: joining me Jack on Monday, March twenty seventh. It's fun

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Speaker 1: that baseball's back, and like we've been watching it, we've

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Speaker 1: We do a lot of stuff during the off season too, right,

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Speaker 3: And we also previous episodes we've gone over every division preview,

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Speaker 3: Okay, have you guys ever heard of Roko's basilisk?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So let me just say, if if I am

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Speaker 3: I think Gosman's awesome. Barrios can't be shittier. And I

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Speaker 3: like Bassett in replacement of Stripling. I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: I gonna go over, Yeah, I have a slight lean

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so clean sweep on the over again. Yep, damn,

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Speaker 4: That's one of the funniest reviews we've gotten.

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Speaker 1: One of the cast review It was, what this show

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Speaker 3: That was the podcast review us smelling each other as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is crazy. That's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to say something like that, give us

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Speaker 4: Be a man, Yeah, no, please, but don't.

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Speaker 4: That'll really hurt my ego.

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Speaker 1: Tampa eighty eight and a half, I fly over here.

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Speaker 1: I think they have the most underrated pitching staff in

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Speaker 1: So the fact that I feel this good about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to really hear from arm about the

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Speaker 3: I gave them out plus three fifty to win the

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Speaker 4: It's so funny that you teed me up for the

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Speaker 4: If they get banged up. They've got more guys that

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Speaker 4: of their other prospects that could come up, like a

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00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 4: Clevispasab And they also have a million relief prospects who

435
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 4: are gross so this team has a million hours.

436
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: It's already elite, like a bullpen is already lead.

437
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 3: And we act like Tyler Glass now because he's hurt

438
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 3: right now, is out for the year, but he's not.

439
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be back too.

440
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: And when he's back in the rotation, like Jeffrey Springs,

441
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 3: is like your sixth starter or something like that, or

442
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 3: fifth or just way back there. And he could be

443
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: a great three in this league. They're so good.

444
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: Another guy that looked decent in Spurts in starts, I

445
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: think he's a bullpen guy. Now is Patino? Like Patino

446
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: finally healthy. We know how electric the fastball can be.

447
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a starting pitcher, but I think

448
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: the Rays are gonna groom him to be an excellent

449
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 1: setup guy.

450
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: What we know about the Raises, They'll figure him out

451
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: and put him in the best spot possible to sit

452
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: to succeed.

453
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: That's why the Rays are so good. Yes, yeah, will

454
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: go over damn it.

455
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it'll be different as we get to other division. Yes,

456
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about it.

457
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: I think so. All right, Baltimore seventy seven and a

458
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: half is their projected total. I've got one. I think

459
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: we may start to differ here because I know that

460
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: you guys like Baltimore, I'm gonna go under this number.

461
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: The pitching is egregiously bad. Yeah, you know, factor g

462
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: rod In. Even if you do factor g rod In,

463
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm not confident eighty percent of the games that they

464
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: take the field for based on that starting rotation or

465
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage.

466
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: Basically eighty percent of the games.

467
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: They take the field for, yes, like they I'm not

468
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: sure what the Lions will say, Like obviously against Oakland,

469
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna be favorite every game. But I think any

470
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: game that g rod doesn't start for the Baltimore Orioles

471
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: this year, you can look at them as a realistic underdog.

472
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: So that is why I go under.

473
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 3: I go over pretty confidently. I think Adlete is a

474
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 3: game changer, and I think that a lot of the

475
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 3: pitchers took a liking to him behind the plate. And

476
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: I think the Orioles are also benefactors of the rule changes.

477
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: With the shift being banned, defense is going to be

478
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 3: you know, it's going to be a premium, and the

479
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: Orioles have a pretty good defensive team, especially in the

480
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: outfield and in the infield. And of course you might

481
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: have maybe the best defensive catcher in the America League

482
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: and Adlie Rutchman, and we talk about the pitching staff

483
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 3: and it is bad, and that's why the line is

484
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: this low. And that's why I can't bet on the

485
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: Orioles over because I don't believe in the pitching. But

486
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: there are creases in there that I could see doing

487
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: pretty well. Kyle Bradish really came on last year after

488
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: he developed that breaking ball and looked a lot better.

489
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: Dean Kramer is one of those guys who put up

490
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: a three two three eer but like a four to

491
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: eight FIP or something like that. I don't know what

492
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 3: he's going to be, but I don't think he's the

493
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: four to eight guy. You have Grayson in there, and

494
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: you have Gibson and Cole Irvin, who are at least

495
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: not options that are just going to ruin your team.

496
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: So I look at a rotation like that and I say, yes,

497
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: they're not very good. I'm not very confident in it.

498
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: But when you combine a solid bullpen with a good

499
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: offense and good defense, that's enough to be an eighty

500
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: win team. They're not going to win the division. They're

501
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 3: not going to compete for the playoffs this year, but

502
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 3: I think that line is just too low.

503
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: You talk about Adley being a game changer, the Orioles

504
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 4: were forty nine and thirty three when he caught. After

505
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: he debuted, there was sixty six and fifth after he debuted, period.

506
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 4: I think I think the team got hot around that time,

507
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: but I think he was a big part of that

508
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: team getting hot. I think he's not only one of

509
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 4: the best catchers in baseball, arguably the best. We'll see

510
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 4: how he compares with Real Muto next year, but one

511
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: of the more well rounded buyers in baseball. All the

512
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: points that Peter said, it's about how they can piece

513
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 4: together the pitching right and I think a lot of

514
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: that lies on the shoulders of Grayson Rodriguez, which is

515
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: nerve racking, but I feel like they're gonna find a

516
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: way to piece it together. John Means should come back

517
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 4: at some point this season, which helps the bullpen is

518
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: fantastic or at least really good to be able to

519
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 4: shorten these starts. And they have so much prospect capital.

520
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: If this team is sniffing the wild card, they're gonna

521
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: trade for a pitcher. I think they wanted to wait

522
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: for the right time to do it. Didn't like what

523
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: the market looked like. Maybe I still think it's a

524
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 4: head scratcher, but at the end of the day, they

525
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 4: have to have plans to do so at some point,

526
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 4: so we'll see how it goes. But I think the

527
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 4: win totals too low.

528
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a really good point by arm talking

529
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 3: about the deadline acquisitions. I think the Orioles will be

530
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: aggressive at the deadline. They're not one of these teams

531
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: that you know even because I just don't expect the

532
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: Oriols to get off to a really bad start and

533
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: then sell because their window is starting to open, especially

534
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: when you have a full season of Gunner Henderson and

535
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: a full season Adlie Rutchman. I only think that this

536
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 3: team is going to be buyers, which will then help

537
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: their win total at the end of the year. I

538
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: just think this is too low. I think they finished

539
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: in fourth place.

540
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys both have over I have under

541
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: the Red Sox seventy eight and a half. I've got

542
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: under here. I do think that you know, these teams,

543
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: the Oriols in the Red Sox are both in the

544
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: mid seventies. I do think that the Orioles finished fourth

545
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: in the Al East. The Red Sox obviously they have

546
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: the front end star power, right, they have Ravi Devers.

547
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: We saw how good Yoshida was in the WBC. I

548
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: have no idea what he will be in major league Baseball,

549
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: but you know, if the WBC was any any foreshadowing

550
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: into what he could be doing this year, I mean

551
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: we could be looking at a guy that hits two

552
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: eighty to two ninety at the major league level. So

553
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what they get from the offense.

554
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: My worry is when you get to the five spot

555
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: and down, is it gonna be lethargic on an every

556
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: night basis? And then when they run out joshuin Kowski

557
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: first time through, and like, how's that gonna work. I'm

558
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: worried about the bullpen a little bit too, like how

559
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: does Kenlee Jansen age that type of thing? And how

560
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: is Chris sail after a billion years off? So there

561
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: are way too many question marks for me on the

562
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: bottom of this roster for me to say.

563
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: Over Yeah, I'm I'm in the same department here. I've

564
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: talked about the Red Zox all offseason. I don't really

565
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: get what they're doing I do think that they found

566
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: a way to keep the offense at least, you know,

567
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: pretty decent. I think it especially at the top half.

568
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 4: Like like Jack said, but you know a lot of

569
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: trust being placed into a center field Adam Duval, a

570
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: lot of trust being placed into Reese Maguire, Christian Arroyo,

571
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: Keke Hernandez. I think he k could be all right.

572
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: But it's not like this team is incredibly deep either.

573
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: So on the pitching side, I think that's a disaster too.

574
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 4: And I'm not the biggest Kenley guy this year, I

575
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: like the Chris Martin pickup, so I'm gonna go under.

576
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: I think this might be one of the worst Red

577
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: Sox teams we've seen in some years. And I do

578
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 4: think this is the year that Heim Bloom goes on

579
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: the hot seat here because it's been clear that even

580
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: the small moves have not been smart. I mean even

581
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: talking to people around the game too, Like nobody understands

582
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 4: scouts included understands the thad Ward, you know, siding with

583
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: David Hamilton for thad Ward, that Ward could probably be

584
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: Therefore said, they get David Hamilton, who you know still

585
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: seventy bases and that's it. I think that's kind of

586
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: a microcosm of all the decisions that they've made which

587
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: are kind of poor and setting themselves up for i

588
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: think a long, long year, which doesn't happen a lot

589
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 4: in Boston.

590
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm wrestling with this one because I do

591
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 3: see a path to a team that's over five hundred.

592
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: If Chris Sale turns in an excellent season, if Brian

593
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: Beao shows us what we think he can be, which

594
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: is a you know, maybe a top end three, but

595
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: he has this star, I think he's really be excellent.

596
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is too.

597
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: Garrett Whitlow comes back and you know, performs at a

598
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: solid level, because we've seen that before. And then you

599
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: have guys like Klueber and Paxton and when Kowski and

600
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: Cutter Crawford, like, they do have some decent depth. But

601
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: the reason that I'm going with the under is that

602
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: I think there's a much clearer path too. For lack

603
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: of a better word, some destruction here. I don't think

604
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: they're a team that will benefit from the rule changes

605
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: you spoke about. Kenley Jensen, one of the slowest pitchers.

606
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to figure something out in his mid

607
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: to late thirties, and that doesn't often happen.

608
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, When a pitcher is struggling,

609
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: the pitch clock is their worst nightmare. And if Kennelee

610
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Jansen can't find the strike zone, a guy that needs

611
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: to take thirty seconds between pitches, that guy is gonna

612
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: throw five or six balls in a row. And I

613
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: think you're going to see that in the first week

614
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: of the season. And defense is going to be incredibly

615
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: important with no shift. And when you look at Keith

616
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: a Hernandez now moving over to shortstop, you move his

617
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: glove out of center field. It's a smaller ballpark, so

618
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: it'll be at least somewhat easier. But they play half

619
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: their games on the road, and they were a really

620
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: bad road team last season. I just think there's you know,

621
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: they're an older team. They're not gonna make much on

622
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: the base pass. You know, they don't have like a

623
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: ton of lefty guys that are expected to break out

624
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: due to the banning of the shift. They just don't

625
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: seem to have that firepower.

626
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: And they lost Xander Bogarts, Like this team that lost

627
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Xander Bogarts and Trevor story Is will be out until July.

628
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: I see a lot of veterans on this team that

629
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: could end up being moved at the deadline too. Right,

630
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: if the Red Sox are far below five hundred or

631
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: even kind of middling around and four teams above them

632
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: are doing much better, they could end up selling, and

633
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: then that could end up lowering the win total. So

634
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: I think it's a much safer bet to go under.

635
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I do see a path

636
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: to them going under. That's why I would never make

637
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: play on this team. But for this exercise, I'm going

638
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: under real quick.

639
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: You mentioned BeO being exciting, BeO dealing with forearm tightness,

640
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: but already started throwing on the backfields, so he won't

641
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: be ready for opening day, but he should be ready

642
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: two weeks into the season, maybe two turns through the rotation.

643
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully you can stay healthy. He's a special special talent,

644
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: all right.

645
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: So clean sweep on the unders for Boston al Central.

646
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Cleveland Guardians eighty six and a half.

647
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: They're projected win total by BETMGM. That's an excellent number.

648
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: Excellent Where do we lie?

649
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: I totally disagree. I think it's so disrespectful. This team

650
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: won ninety two games last year, and I think they're better.

651
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: They're also a team that I think greatly benefits from

652
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: the new rules. We're talking about banning the shift, which

653
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: places more of an importance on defense. They're maybe the

654
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: second best defensive team in Major League Baseball to the Cardinals.

655
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: They have great starting pitching, they have a phenomenal bullpen,

656
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: and adding Josh Bell gives him that more of a

657
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: thump in the lineup that they needed. Terry Francona could

658
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: drag US three and the staff of Just Baseball. I

659
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: think to an eighty two win season. I love this team.

660
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: I bet on them to win the division and I

661
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: put you know, I put two units on their overwin total,

662
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: which is one of my largest future bets. I love

663
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: this team. I think they run away with the division.

664
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Run away.

665
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: I think they're a ninety two to ninety four win team,

666
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: and nobody else scrapes the lower you know, mid eighties.

667
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: I think they run away with it.

668
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: Folks, that's a take all, right, arm, what do you think?

669
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: You know? I do have some concerns about the rotation

670
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: on the surface. You know, Shane Bieber Tristan McKenzie are awesome.

671
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: You know, I think Quantrille showed to be like a

672
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: steady middle rotation gap. But that's a guy that you

673
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: know could regress, and I don't think any of us

674
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: would be shocked, even though he was very good last year.

675
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 4: I hate Savali and play Sack in the back end

676
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: of rotation and Shane Bieber, like is he gonna stay healthy?

677
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: Like if Shane Bieber goes down, this rotation comes even

678
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: more worries some. But the bullpen is fantastic, and they've

679
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: got a lot of guys that are knocking on the

680
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: door in the minor leagues. Even if you have to

681
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 4: plug an Xavier Curry in there or some of these

682
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: other guys, like those are options. I even don't hate

683
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: Connor Pilkington, but I mean they've got Tanner Biby who

684
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: could potentially get forced up at the end of the

685
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: year or even earlier if they need him. Logan Allen.

686
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: I still really like they can find a way to

687
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: piece together the rotation and the offense is better. The

688
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: offense is point blank better. You add Josh Bell and

689
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: you get guys like Oscar Gonzalez for a full season,

690
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 4: getting more experience, getting better. Same with Steph Kuan, He's

691
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: only going to be better. And Jay Rim was like

692
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 4: below Jay Ram level last year. So I'm going over.

693
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a clean sweep in the over. But

694
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think they fly over. I say barely.

695
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a high eighties win team, and

696
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I think that that is enough to win this division.

697
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: The White Sox eighty two and a half, this is tough.

698
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Francis Romero, I think his name is at MLB. He

699
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: just tweeted that Oscar Colos was notified that he made

700
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: the opening day roster. Let's go huge for them? Yeah,

701
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: huge for them and Colos? Maybe what the opening day

702
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: right fielder? Right? If Colos made the roster, why would

703
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: you start Gavin Sheets over Colas? So I think it's

704
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: going to be Colas and right and a Lloyd Dhing,

705
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: which is excellent. I think that the offense got better.

706
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I think that the pitching staff is interesting. No Liam

707
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Hendricks really hurts. That's a tough one. All right, come

708
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: back to me eight two and a half.

709
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: I'll jump in. I don't like the bullpen with no Hendrix.

710
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: The rotation I think is a disaster waiting to happen,

711
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: and the lineup is just extremely volatile. Right, you got

712
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: often injured and or inconsistent, you know, And I can

713
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: go through each of the guys, and then you have

714
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: Rookie and Oscar Colas an old dude, and Elvis Andrews.

715
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go under. I think this is the year

716
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 4: where like White Sox fans actually collectively lose their minds

717
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: and say below it the hell up. And I think

718
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: they blow it up. I hope I'm wrong because I

719
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: like baseball, you know, in the South side of Chicago,

720
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: and I hope they're I hope they're good. I think

721
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 4: some individuals will have nice years. But I'm going under

722
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: on there's just too much volatility, too many questions.

723
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is where betting and predictions, you know,

724
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: take a turn. Because the White Socks are kind of

725
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: similar to the Red Sox. Right, you can see the

726
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: path to eighty five wins with the Chicago White Sox,

727
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: and I can see the path to ninety exactly like

728
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: you look at Dylan Cease and maybe he wins the

729
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: cy Young. You can see Copek battling back, you can

730
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: see Giolito bouncing back and then then piecing together the

731
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: rest of the rotation. Maybe they make a big move

732
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: for a reliever at the deadline or before. Luis Roberts

733
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: say is healthy, Alloy Jimenez stays healthy, Joan Muncotta bounces back.

734
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 3: This team could be electric, but there's more signs pointing

735
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: to it towards the under. You know, they're not very

736
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: good defensively, they're not demons on the base pass. I

737
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 3: like the Andrew Bennett tendee move, but again, he's coming off,

738
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: you know, a risk injury. I would say the under

739
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: for this exercise, and that's probably the safer bet. But

740
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: the problem with actually betting on this team is that

741
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: it has maybe the most variance of any team in

742
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball.

743
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't touch it with a bet, But for this exercise,

744
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: we'll go on and play the percentages there.

745
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's play a game. Lucas Giolito better or

746
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: worse than last year? I think better? You think same?

747
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: Arm Yeah, same, I'd say same. I'm I'm very low

748
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: on gi Aledo, Lancelynn better or worse than last year? Better,

749
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: I'd say better. Okay, So, Peter, if you're like confidently

750
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: saying better on both those guys, I'm gonna go over.

751
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: I have all the faith and cease in the world.

752
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: I think that Kopek figures his shit out in the rotation.

753
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: You're shaking your head.

754
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: Why, I just I don't have a lot of faith

755
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: in Copec. I don't. I hope, I hope. So he's

756
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: an electric arm But.

757
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Where does your lack of faith in Copec stem from?

758
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: Look at the numbers, man, Like, he's great when he's

759
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: one hundred, he's great when he's ninety eight. He's not

760
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: as great when he's ninety four ninety five, and so

761
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 4: ninety four ninety five.

762
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: He was ninety four ninety five last year, and he

763
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: was a mid threes in one hundred and twenty innings.

764
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: I'll take that as a four. Like my thing is

765
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: I need Lancelin and Gildo to be a two and three,

766
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: five four or five.

767
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: FIP three nine four x era and seven point nine

768
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: case per nine four point three walks per nine.

769
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: But I just we can't debate this stuff like this

770
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: stuff is there.

771
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: I totally agree with Arm though, Like, but I wasn't

772
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, it wasn't last year. That's a good point.

773
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: He's a tough he's a really tough pitcher and Also,

774
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm I'm relatively lower on these Central teams compared to

775
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: the East. Like we heard a lot of overs in

776
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: the East. And the schedule changes, right, these guys are

777
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: gonna be playing different teams. You're not gonna have to

778
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: face your division. The White Socks don't get to play

779
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: the Royals and the Tigers, you know, every other week

780
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: like they've been used to. There's gonna be a lot

781
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: of tougher matchups for the White Sox. There's just more

782
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: factors that lead to the under But Jack at the

783
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: same time, like I'm kind of with you, dude, Like

784
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: I understand there is a path here. There are guys

785
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: who could bounce back. Lynn looked great in the World

786
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: Baseball Classic, and he was dreadful last year. I just

787
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: think there's a part of me that just like thinks,

788
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: no way, Kopek.

789
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Is that bad.

790
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: Like my thought.

791
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: My thought was last year was a total blow up,

792
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: in your face disaster for the White Sox. They won

793
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: eighty one games, That's what I'm saying. And if there

794
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: are totals at eighty two and a half right now,

795
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: and like I'm old the franchise after an eighty one

796
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: win season, I feel like they could get to eighty three.

797
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: Remember you subtracted your best position player last year though, Yeah,

798
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 4: the guy that had a four F four, that hit

799
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: three h four with a one thirty seven WRC plus

800
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: they bring you and now eliminated off the roster. You

801
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: know that matters, right, So and even like a Reese McGuire,

802
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: Like Reeye McGuire for fucking fifty three games was better

803
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: than what you got from the catching position. Otherwise you

804
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 4: subtract Johnny Quato, who was a three to three e

805
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: guy for Like, there's some guys that, like, on the

806
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 4: surface you forgot about when you look at roster resource,

807
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: but like those guys were part of the reason why

808
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 4: they were even able to stay afloat. So things go

809
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: awry even if Josh Harrison plugged in and was competent, like.

810
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: Elvis andrews Oh no, he's back, right, he's back. He's back.

811
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: That's huge. That made you might go over now well,

812
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: and no, Layarry Garcia likely on the roster is huge

813
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: for White Sox fans.

814
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: No Andrew Vaughn or Gavin Sheets playing in the corners

815
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: on outfield defense, which.

816
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: That does help.

817
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: That's my thing I'm banking on a on an improvement

818
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: from Vaughn, Like I think this is the year that

819
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: Vaughn jumps.

820
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: I hear you.

821
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: Here's how subury the White Sox. This team is fucking impossible,

822
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: possible they make it with ninety games or with seventy

823
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: games they have. They're like the Red Sox, like you

824
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: could see a complete path to being very competitive and

825
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 3: at the same time you could see a dumpster fire

826
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: of a team.

827
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: I think they got more upside than the Red Sox.

828
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: I think so too, but I also weirdly do they

829
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: have more downside?

830
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

831
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: I think so, maybe just because like everyone on this

832
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 4: team has like.

833
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: Died exactly like the Red Sox don't have these crazy

834
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: injury problems. Like it's not like Rafael Devers versus like

835
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: Luis Robert, who's the best offensive player. I'm way more

836
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: confident in Rafael Devers and like Cese, he gave us

837
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: one season. I fully expect him to do it again,

838
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: but there's always the chance that he regresses.

839
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: Like we don't know. So it's a tough team. It's

840
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: a fun team though, Yeah, So I guess this is

841
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: like where the I don't trace amount of like fandom

842
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: I have left comes out where I just want to

843
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: root for over eighty two and a half. So I

844
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go there all right, Minnesota eighty four

845
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: and a half. If the White Sox are eighty three,

846
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: I also see Minnesota at eighty three. I'm gonna go

847
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: just barely under on Minnesota. I'm a little worried about

848
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: how often that lineup's going to strike out, Like I

849
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a demoralizing Tuesday Night sometimes

850
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: that's my reasoning there. I'm also I have confidence in

851
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: like a Pablo Lopez, I've got confidence in some of

852
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: the guys in that rotation. But I could also see them,

853
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, winning five straight games. I could also see

854
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: them losing five straight games if those guys are not there,

855
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: Like such is life of a three. So that's where

856
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: I say under, but like just barely. I'm not going

857
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: to make a sweeping claim about the Twins where I

858
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win the World Series and then they're

859
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: in last place. I think this is going to be

860
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: the even watermark of average Major League Baseball teams. In

861
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

862
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: Three, short story about me betting on the Minnesota Twins

863
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: when the lines came out. Unfortunately, they weren't available on

864
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: our friends bet MGM, but they were available on another

865
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 3: sports book, and I tried to put some money down

866
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: on the Twins over seventy seven and a half wins,

867
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 3: and they limited me. They limited me. This was before

868
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: Carlos Krea signed. Then Carlos Krea signs. Now they're up

869
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: to eighty two and a half to eighty four and

870
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: a half depending on which book you look at, and

871
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: now we're mostly seeing eighty three and a half or

872
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: eighty four and a half in the market. I would

873
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: lean under right now because I think without Carlos Korea

874
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: they were like a.

875
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: Eighty win team.

876
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 3: With Carlos Krea, I'm putting them around eighty three eighty four,

877
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: So now the line makes total sense. So I would

878
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: have a slight lean towards the under. I think this

879
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: team finishes above five hundred. I think they got the

880
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: line pretty perfectly. I think they finished in second place

881
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: in this division. But I would lean slightly under because

882
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: now it's just been so inflated from the signing of

883
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: Carlos Korea that a lean under. But I do like

884
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: this rotation, guys. I think it's a very good rotation.

885
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: I like them on offense. Their bullpen is a little

886
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: bit troubling. They have two absolute studs at the top

887
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: Griffin Jacks I do like, but then it drops off

888
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: a little bit. But overall, I think this team is

889
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 3: better than the White Sox. And I'm kind of almost

890
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: talking myself into an over here. Think it's gotten a

891
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: little bit too much to go over, but I think

892
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: eighty four.

893
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: Wins is in their future.

894
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: So are you taking the under?

895
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under at eighty four and a half,

896
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: But if it was like eighty eighty one and a half,

897
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: I'd be on the over.

898
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: Honest think that's where they are. Honestly, if these lines

899
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: were flipped, if the White Sox were eighty four and

900
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Minnesota was eighty two, I'm taking the under on the

901
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: White Sox and the over on Minnesota. Like I just

902
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: close my eyes and see two eighty three win teams,

903
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: I think that m'd be likely.

904
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, I get it, I get it. I'm

905
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: gonna go with the over here. I like this team, man,

906
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: I do. I here's one of those teams that just

907
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: like them, and we'll get to the Brewers like similar

908
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: just they just they got they kind of pull out

909
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: my heartstrings. They hedge a lot of questions with a

910
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: lot of options, and yeah, like is the rotation elite?

911
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 4: Probably not. They don't have a clear cut ace. They

912
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: don't really even have a queer cut two. But they

913
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: got like a bunch of threes and a bunch of

914
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: other options too, like Bailey oberstart.

915
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: Sonny Grays at two like they I agree, I think

916
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: that's speaking.

917
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, like his name is a two like a one. Yeah,

918
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: he was at one point the Yankees gave up a one,

919
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: you know. Pack Yeah, all those guys did end up

920
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: panning out anyway, so it's fine. But like you know,

921
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: the bullpen at least they've got some elite guys in

922
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: the back. They have some other options that like the

923
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: outfield position player wise, infield and outfield is so deep

924
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: that you know, you have the volatility of a Buston,

925
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 4: you have the volatility of a Gallow, you have some

926
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: of these guys, like they have a million outfielders and

927
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: they've got Royce Lewis coming back. I love Miranda. I'm

928
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: really interested to see how Warnic does. Nick Gordon can

929
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: play all over. They add Michael A. Taylor, Like there's

930
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: just so many options that they're gonna be able to

931
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 4: plug and play and ride the hot hand. I think

932
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: the rotation is the same story, and they've got some

933
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: prospects that could come up and make an impact too.

934
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: I think Edward Julienne could be up before long. I

935
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 4: think this team's gonna gonna hang around and be competitive

936
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: all year long. I think they're gonna win eighty six

937
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: eighty seven games.

938
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 3: I love the addition of Pablo Lopez, but losing Luis

939
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: rot is tough because now this team is really three

940
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: true outcome like they are very red and run, you know,

941
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: strikeout or the walk. That's my issue that they can

942
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: get into some holes sometimes when guys aren't hitting home

943
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: runs and go on crazy losing streaks. We saw that

944
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: last year. But at the same time, I agree with

945
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: you on them. There's so much potential here because I

946
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: think the rotation it's better than it's been in what

947
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: five ten years, Like they haven't had pitching like this

948
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: where you can go Gray Molly Freakin', who's Pablo Lopez?

949
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: You can Ryan Joe Ryan, like you can lines and

950
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: like you have a chance to win every fifth every day,

951
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: like not even every fit day.

952
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: Where it used to be, where it's like you got

953
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Gray at the top.

954
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: And then like Bailey Ober, like Dylan Bundy, Like this

955
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: is not even close to that same team. I don't

956
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: think they're gonna hit to the level they did last year.

957
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: And but if Buckston says healthy man, like that's another thing,

958
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 3: Like you get twenty eight home runs in ninety two games,

959
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: like that's insane. If he plays one hundred and ten games,

960
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 3: he could it thirty five jacks. He's really leaned into

961
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: this power stroke. Then you have Gallo, like what if

962
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: he bounces back? So many questions, But I'm more optimistic

963
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: about the Twins and the White Sox, no doubt.

964
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: About it.

965
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: All right.

966
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City sixty nine and a half Zach Granke, Brady Singer,

967
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Lyles, Brad Keller, Ryan Yarborough under I just I can't.

968
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: I cannot tell myself that this is a seventy win

969
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: team because you've got granky singer, Lyles, Keller, Yarborough, and

970
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: then you've got e raldis Chapman that's gonna throw meaningful

971
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: innings and Dylan Coleman, who was good last year, but

972
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be a setup guy. Borderline closer with

973
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: Barlow and then a mere Garrett is still factoring in here,

974
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: and there's no depth when it comes to starting pitching.

975
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: And then you look at what goes on outside of

976
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: the young fun guys in MJ and Bobby Witt and

977
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: and then you got Sal Perez for sure, But like Hunter, Dojer,

978
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: Kyle Lisbel, Edward Olivares, and Nate Eaton are gonna be

979
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: in an opening day line up. Can't tell me that

980
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: this is a seventy win team. I go under. I'll

981
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: tell you it's a seventy win team. I like the over.

982
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: Think about teams that are in this range that have

983
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: those level of hitters at the top. Oh wait, like

984
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: it's a it's it's a short list. Like the Royals

985
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: are going to hit they they run the bases a

986
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: ton like this is a fast team that I think

987
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 3: is also going to benefit from the bigger bases from

988
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: the pickoff rules. I think Bobby Witch Junior takes that

989
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: next step up and really becomes one of the better

990
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: short steps in the American League. We know how much

991
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: we like Vinnie Pascentino. He could end up being an

992
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: All Star this year. His batted baldada is insane. That's

993
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: why we're all jumping on him like nerds that we are. Like,

994
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: I think Salvador Prez is a better offensive season.

995
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: I think MJ.

996
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: Melendez takes that step up too. And the rotation, Yes,

997
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: it's not sexy. It's some of the most boring that

998
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: you could possibly name. But would we be surprised if

999
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: Zach Crinky has a four to three or four to

1000
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: four ERA over one hundred and sixty innings? Would we

1001
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: be surprised if Jordan Lyles does the same thing, If

1002
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: Brady Singer takes the next step up and their bullpen

1003
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: is fine? Like that is just that doesn't seem like

1004
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: a sixty nine win team to me. That seems like

1005
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: a seventy two win team to me. So I'm looking

1006
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: at the.

1007
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 4: Over I'll tell you a lineup that you know won

1008
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 4: less than seventy games with with those kind of names,

1009
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: and it's the Rangers last year, right. You had Cory Seger,

1010
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 4: Marcus Semion, Nathaniel Lowe, and Adolas Garcia in that lineup

1011
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: and they won sixty eight games.

1012
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: So pitching was so bad? Yeah?

1013
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love all of the guys that Peter brought up,

1014
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: and I agree with everything you're saying there. I think

1015
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: all of these guys are gonna are gonna mash like

1016
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 4: Bobby Wait, gonna make the leap, you know how we

1017
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 4: feel about Vinnie Like to all the points that Peter made,

1018
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 4: is that gonna be enough to get to seventy The

1019
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: Rangers say no. There's been other teams that have said

1020
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: yes based on that, so it to me it's a

1021
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 4: coin flip, and it's really going to come down to

1022
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 4: how much those guys mash or how bad the pitching is.

1023
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to go under just because I am really

1024
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: worried about that outfield situation, especially with Drew Waters hurt

1025
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: to start the year. And if Zach Granky, like I agree,

1026
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be surprised if he has a

1027
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: four to two and cruises through the year. But if

1028
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: Zach Granky, you know, is not able to throw every

1029
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: fifth day for them, then it's really interesting to see

1030
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: how they put it together. And I think Ryan Yarborough

1031
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: could be a disaster. Think they're going to trade from

1032
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 4: that bullpen once they have some guys that are performing.

1033
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: They're going to sell high on those guys, and I

1034
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: think really tank at the end of the year, So

1035
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: I'm going to go under, but I could definitely see

1036
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: a path to the over with the kind of with

1037
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: the kind of talent they have in their lineup.

1038
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 3: That is my one concern. You brought it up selling

1039
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: at the deadline, that could crush.

1040
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: Any they have their trading and they should.

1041
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: And they should and if that gets off to a

1042
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 3: bad start, But a guy who I'm excited to see

1043
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: is Daniel Lynch. This year, you know, the Royals brought

1044
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: in new staff, guys who worked with the Rays, guys

1045
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: who've worked with the Guardians, in order to go completely

1046
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: revamp that pitching staff, which has been their achilles heel

1047
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: for what seems like a half decade. So if they

1048
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: can implement some stuff, if Boo Bitch looks better, like

1049
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: they could have some guys who can get you through

1050
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: games while allowing three runs in five innings per se.

1051
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: And then I get if this lineup scores four in

1052
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: those five innings, like they could end up having some

1053
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: wins here. But I agree that is my biggest concern,

1054
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: is selling at the deadline. But I'm just I'm really

1055
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: optimistic about the lineup. I'm optimistic about them benefiting from

1056
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: the rule changes, and I do think that they end

1057
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: up in the seventy low seventies range, and I would

1058
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 3: go over.

1059
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Lynch will probably start the year on the il

1060
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: with shouldered discomfort that happened late this week, so we'll

1061
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: see what happens there, which is really unfortunate because this

1062
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: was sink or swim season for Daniel Lynch, and I

1063
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be hampered by injury, Like if if

1064
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: you have to prove like what you are, I hope

1065
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: you can give all you And it sounds like Lynch

1066
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: unfortunately cannot give all he's got, which sucks. So me

1067
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: and Arham went under. Peter went over same win total

1068
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: for the Tigers at sixty nine and a half. What

1069
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: say you, Peter Apple, This.

1070
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: Is where I go under. I don't love the Tigers

1071
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: from top to bottom. They don't have the offensive upside

1072
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: that the Royals do. They don't really have better pitching,

1073
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: and they don't really have a better bullpen either. They

1074
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: are kind of similar to the Royals, but I don't

1075
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: see as much upside. Of course, you have Spencer Torkelsen

1076
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: and Riley Green, but I don't think those two are

1077
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 3: at the level of some of the Royals that we named,

1078
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: who have a larger history of just being better major

1079
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: league players. I think this is a sixty five win team.

1080
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: I think they finish in last place in the American

1081
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 3: League Central. Not super confident because it's not a bet

1082
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: i'd go on because it's a slim margin. But again,

1083
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: this is a team that looks like it will sell

1084
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: the deadline. There's some players who I'm gonna tune in

1085
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: to watch, but not as many as the Royals. So

1086
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm going under.

1087
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 4: I'm going over on the Tigers. I'm in on the

1088
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: Tigers this year in terms of like them not sucking totally.

1089
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 4: I tweeted about this, but Hobbi Baias legit can't be worse.

1090
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 4: I don't think it's humanly possible. But I'm all the

1091
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 4: way in on the Riley Green breakout, Like I really

1092
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 4: feel good about it. I think Torkosen's gonna gonna bounce back.

1093
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 4: He has hit the ball so hard this spring. Johnathan

1094
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 4: Scope cannot be worse either, Like, it's literally not possible.

1095
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 4: So those are two cannot be worse guys. And I

1096
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: really like Carry Carpenter. I think that guy freaking rakes

1097
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: when you go to the rotation. I think that's where

1098
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 4: they separate themselves from the Royals, which is it's it's

1099
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: really like pick your poison. I think he Rod's gonna

1100
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: be good this year, I really do, and he's look

1101
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 4: great this spring. I'm interested to see how Matt Manning looks.

1102
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 4: He actually has looked a bit better on the back

1103
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: half of the spring. Spencer Turnbull is a slept on

1104
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: name because Turnbull actually looked good before he got hurt,

1105
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: missed all of last year. Now comes back could be

1106
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: a decent option. I loved their Rule five pick up

1107
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: and Mason Anglert. I think they've got some options with

1108
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 4: Joey Wentz and some other dudes. I agree the bullpen's

1109
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: not good at all, maybe one of the worst. To

1110
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: Peter's point that that will be kind of ugly, and

1111
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 4: then we'll see what they get from Lorenzen and maybe

1112
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: Trek Scouble if if he can come back at some

1113
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: point this year. But I just like too many of

1114
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: the guys here. I think they're gonna find a way

1115
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 4: to bounce back, and they got some guys in the

1116
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 4: miners who could see some time in the big leagues.

1117
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: You know, if Alex Fayedo can come back, Reese Olsen,

1118
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: there's some other arms that that may get a chance

1119
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: to break in at some point. So I'm gonna go

1120
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: over on the Tigers.

1121
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go just under. And I think it has

1122
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: to do with with the pitching staff as a whole,

1123
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: like you combine the rotation in the bullpen. I am

1124
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: worried about Manning. I don't know what we're gonna get

1125
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: from Turnbull like, the the cloudiness that surrounds Turnbull like

1126
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: is what what turns me off of thinking, Hey, that guy,

1127
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: could you know, seriously bounce back? I mean what, he

1128
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: threw a no hitter in twenty one, right, I think?

1129
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, weird, Yeah, so weird. You rot I'm not,

1130
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, totally short, Like, I'm not totally sold on

1131
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: him being you know, much better. Uh granted, he'll be

1132
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: better than non existent, which is a huge plus for

1133
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: them this year.

1134
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: Literally non existent actually like hiding Yeah didn't yeah, like.

1135
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do like the bats that that arms

1136
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: talking about. Riley Green I think is the truth. Kerry Carpenter,

1137
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: I think is the middle of the order guy in

1138
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: major League Baseball, and I think that he will get

1139
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: a chance to be a very good five hitter, and

1140
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: then I gotta buy into the Miggi kool aid here.

1141
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: I think that Miggy has to hit ten homers this year,

1142
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: has to nice go on to take.

1143
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: You should take his over five and a half on

1144
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: prize picks.

1145
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: Then I'm in.

1146
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: I've and a half. Yes, I'm in much this year

1147
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: at all. Man Like they're just taking a l on

1148
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: the roster spot. His knee is done. He's gonna play

1149
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: like two to three times a week, though, which I

1150
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: think will help him. I'm actually I might take that

1151
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: over on prize picks.

1152
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: It's low for a reason. It is low. It's really low.

1153
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 4: Also, also, Austin Meadows only played thirty six games last

1154
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: year and hit zero home runs.

1155
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1156
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a guy who almost never plays. And

1157
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: I just feel like the Tigers are a team that

1158
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: to go over their win total. You need Spencer Torkulsen

1159
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: to fully reach his potential next year. You need Riley

1160
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 3: Green to do the same. You need Carry Carpenter to rake,

1161
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 3: You need Matt Manning to pitch at a solid level,

1162
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 3: and you need Eduardo Rodriguez to pitch at a SOLI level.

1163
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: And you need some guys in the bullpen outside of

1164
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: Alex Lang to really, you know, perform at a above

1165
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 3: average level. And that's a lot that has to happen.

1166
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: While with the Royals there just seems more safety in

1167
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: the rotation, a little bit more safety in the bullpen,

1168
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 3: and there's more upside on offense. The Tigers won sixty

1169
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: six last year, the Royals six. I am just more

1170
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: confident in the Royals than I am the Tigers.

1171
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: All right, Last, but not least, the Al west Arham's

1172
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: computer just got to throw up on himself, so he

1173
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: does not have video for the YouTube folk right now,

1174
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: but we can hear him perfectly. Let's start with the

1175
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: Astros ninety five and a half. This is the easiest

1176
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: over for me. I think if one team is going

1177
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: to go to one hundred and five wins, if not more,

1178
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: it's the Houston Astros. I think they're the best team

1179
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: in baseball. I think we are due for one one

1180
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: hundred win team. Houston's the one to do it. Yeah.

1181
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: I like the Astros too. I like them to go over.

1182
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: I think if any team could lose justin Verlander, it's

1183
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 3: the Houston Astros. When you have Franber Valdez and Christian

1184
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: Javier and a pitcher that I'm really excited to see.

1185
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: We saw him really dominate in the World Baseball Classics.

1186
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: Luis Garcia. And Luis Garcia is an interesting case because

1187
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: he normally has a super long wind up, which you

1188
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: can't use with the new rules pertaining to the pitch clock.

1189
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: But if you look at his numbers, he's actually been

1190
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: better with runners on base in his career when he

1191
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: doesn't use the long wind up. I think cutting that out.

1192
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: We saw them in the World Baseball Classic some dominate.

1193
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: I think becomes a very good three starter. And then

1194
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: you have Hunter Brown, Jose Keaty in the rotation along

1195
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: with the best bullpen and all of Major League Baseball.

1196
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: And then when Lance mccullis Junior comes back, we expect

1197
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: him to be great too. The lineup adding Jose Bray.

1198
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 3: You love this team. I think they go over ninety

1199
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: five and a half wins. But again, I'm not in

1200
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: the business of betting on the best teams to go

1201
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 3: over unless they're the Dodgers. But yeah, so I would

1202
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: go over with the Ashers.

1203
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 4: How much concern do we place and no Altuve for

1204
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 4: what we presume to be multiple months.

1205
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, a decent bit. I think a decent bit.

1206
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: That's my one thing. We're going from from Altuve to

1207
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 4: David Hensley, who was awesome, Like who was awesome, but

1208
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 4: he's definitely not Altuve. But you also get a Brandley

1209
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: back pretty early. You ad Jose Bray, you the rest

1210
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 4: of this team freaking rakes. I'm gonna I'm gonna go

1211
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: over as well. But like it's not one that I'm like,

1212
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 4: I'm not as sure of it as Jack. Like I'm

1213
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 4: not just like slapping my hand on it and saying, no,

1214
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: no problem over, send it in, Like I'm I'm a

1215
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: little nervous without Tuove out. Now, He's he's a big

1216
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: glue guy beyond just the fact that he's a five

1217
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: to six war guy, like every year. I think he's

1218
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: a glue guy too, So I'm interested to see how

1219
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: how you know things go without him. But this team's

1220
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: still just too damn good.

1221
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I'm with you. I am a slight

1222
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: lean towards the over, not willing to slap it down.

1223
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: And also I don't think it's going to kill yord

1224
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: On Alvarez, but the fact that he only has about

1225
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: six abs in spring training so far because he hurt

1226
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: his handmate bone, which is common among big time sluggers.

1227
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: It's a bone in your hand that directly impacts your

1228
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: power output. He's still gonna rake, and he's still gonna

1229
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 3: have a good year. But then again, that is some

1230
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 3: thing to monitor that maybe doesn't start all the way hot.

1231
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: But this team is two loaded in almost all facets

1232
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: of the game. But I think they are around in

1233
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: ninety five to ninety seven win team. I'll go over,

1234
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: but I'm not very confident in it.

1235
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: Yep, right, so a clean sweep. I'm just the most

1236
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: confident Seattle is at eighty seven and a half are

1237
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: how do you feel?

1238
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, we know how Peter feels, but I honestly

1239
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 4: echo peter sentiment. And now I'll kind of leave the

1240
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 4: floor to him because this is this is something that

1241
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 4: I know he's been very adamant about. But you know,

1242
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: I do really like this team top to bottom. I

1243
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: like the moves that they've made. I think Depoto has

1244
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: been doing a great job. They really had any concerns

1245
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 4: and weaknesses that I felt like they had, and I

1246
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 4: think this is the kind of team that only gets

1247
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: better with some of the youth that they have, especially

1248
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 4: on the mound, and some of the guys they have

1249
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 4: coming up. Big dark horse that I think could plug

1250
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: in kind of like Matt Brash did last year and

1251
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: do a little bit of the relieving and starting is

1252
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 4: Bryce Miller. One of the best fastballs in professional baseball,

1253
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 4: not just the minor league, one of the best fastballs

1254
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: in professional baseball no matter how they use him. I

1255
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be a big weapon for them too.

1256
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: They're deep, They've made the moves that they needed to make,

1257
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: and I'll let Peter kind of fill in the rest,

1258
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: but I'm going over. I think with East this is

1259
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: probably one of my most confident overs as well. This year.

1260
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: I bet on the Seattle Mariners over wins. I bet

1261
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: them to win the American League Pennant, and I bet

1262
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: them to win the World Series. And I'm gonna tell

1263
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 3: you why I'm jumping all aboard the Seattle Mariners bandwagon

1264
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: this year. So we saw the window open last year,

1265
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: it didn't completely fly open because unfortunately they lost to

1266
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: the Astros in what was it the It was the

1267
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: al Ds, Yes, it was the al Ds.

1268
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they beat wild Card. They lost to

1269
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: Houston in the DS, and.

1270
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm a Yankee fan, and I got to say, if

1271
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: the Mariners had beaten the Ashros in that series, I

1272
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: think the Mariners would have gone to the World Series.

1273
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: I think they were a better team than the Yankees

1274
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 3: were last year. And the Mariners took the Astros to

1275
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: the brink. George Kirby threw seven shutout That was a series. Now,

1276
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 3: it didn't look all that close when you just look

1277
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 3: at the final tallly of wins versus losses, but every

1278
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 3: game was ultra competitive. While in the Astros Yankee series,

1279
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 3: the Ashros completely took care of business. The Seattle Mariners

1280
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: are also Jerry Depoto has proven that he's going to

1281
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: make the big move at the deadline, getting Luis Castillo.

1282
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: Now the Mariners have one of the best rotations in

1283
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. With Luis Castillo at the top, who's

1284
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: as good as any in the American League. You follow

1285
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: him with Logan Gilbert who's developing a splitter and looks

1286
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: do we even improve on last year's performance. George Kirby

1287
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: is expected to take another leap and become one of

1288
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: the better right handed pitchers in the American League. That's

1289
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: already a great three. And then you have Robbie Ray,

1290
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: who is not great, but as a four, that's about

1291
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: as good as it's going to get.

1292
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 4: The Niaos spring too, he's been gross this spring. Look

1293
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 4: at Robbie Ray's and he might have been He might

1294
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: be the best pitcher of this spring period.

1295
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: And then you have Marco Gonzalez, Chris Flexen and Bryce

1296
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: Miller as potentially five to six seven. You have one

1297
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: of the best bullpens in baseball. You look at the offense,

1298
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: what did they need?

1299
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: They needed a.

1300
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: Big power hitter, so who'd they get Taoscar Hernandez. They

1301
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 3: needed a second baseman, who'd they get? Colton Wong. Jared

1302
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: Kelnick is having a great spring. You Hennyosuarez and Ty

1303
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 3: Frantz on the corners are great options there. Their worst

1304
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: player is JP Crawford, and he's an average shortstop from

1305
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: top to bottom. I think this might be the second best.

1306
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 3: Actually I'm saying when I believe it, that they are

1307
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: this second best team in the American League, even though

1308
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: they're being priced as the fifth or sixth best team

1309
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 3: in the American League. I think this is the year

1310
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 3: they make the big move at the deadline to shore

1311
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: up any problems that they might have. Let's say Kelnick

1312
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: doesn't work out. They hedged it with Aj Pollock. This

1313
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: team is as well rounded. They're going to benefit from

1314
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 3: the shift rules because they do have a great defense.

1315
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: This is my pick to end up winning the World Series.

1316
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: I think they're going to face off against the Braves,

1317
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: not to ruin the National League part of it, but

1318
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm all in on the Mariners this year. I think

1319
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: this is the year where, you know, they win their

1320
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 3: first World Series in a very long time.

1321
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say over as well, clean sweep of the

1322
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: over And the only reason I say over is because

1323
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: I think they're flawless. I think that they had some flaws.

1324
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: They id'd the flaws, and they corrected them to the

1325
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: point where they are not flaws anymore, and they are

1326
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: a flawless baseball team. And they Wriguez.

1327
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 4: It would be the first World Series ever for the

1328
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 4: Seattle Mariners correct.

1329
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 3: And another thing too, You know, with young teams like this,

1330
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: you like to see them almost fail before they overcome. Right,

1331
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 3: they had that taste of what it felt like to

1332
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 3: be in that type of atmosphere against the World Series

1333
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: champions and I thought they might have given them the

1334
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 3: most trouble of any team that faced them in the playoffs,

1335
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: including the Phillies.

1336
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: They did.

1337
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 3: I think this is the team that gets over the

1338
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: hump ends up taking down the Ashers because I think

1339
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: the act are really the true team that's in their path.

1340
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: You could say the Rays, Blue Jays, Guardians, but I

1341
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: think the Mariners are above those teams. And after feeling

1342
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: that loss, I think they come back with vengeance and

1343
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 3: end up winning the whole thing. I love the Mariners

1344
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: this year.

1345
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: Three more Angels. Rangers A's Angels are at eighty two

1346
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: and a half. I'm with Peter.

1347
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 3: If not now, when no I go over, Yeah, I

1348
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: go over with the Angels and I do this every year,

1349
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: but there does feel it does feel different. Anthony Rendon

1350
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: has a thirteen hundred ops in spring training so far.

1351
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: If he can stay healthy, he's a superstar and he's

1352
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 3: played like it with the Nationals. And if you slot

1353
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 3: him along with trout Otani, that's an incredible trio. But

1354
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: you know you have guys who you expect to bounce back, right,

1355
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 3: Jared Walsh can't be much worse. I love Logan o'happy

1356
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: at catcher. They're field is pretty solid. We saw what

1357
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: Taylor Ward could do last year, and then you look

1358
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: at the rotation the road and you add Hunter Renfro

1359
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 3: and Brandon Drury, who on you know the new podcast

1360
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: that I host with Tucker Davidson, I was speaking with

1361
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 3: him and Patrick Sandoval and I asked, who's a player

1362
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 3: that the Angels should watch out for Angels fans at least,

1363
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: and they both lit up.

1364
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: And said Brandon Drury.

1365
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: Immediately, they said, he's raking right now and if he

1366
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 3: is ninety percent of what he was when Cincinnati, that's

1367
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 3: an incredible utility player. You look at the rotations much

1368
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: better than in previous years, especially adding Tyler Anderson, when

1369
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 3: you have Patrick Sandoval and show hey o Tani and

1370
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 3: we could just continue to go down the list because

1371
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: Ree Deptmers is also a really good young pitcher. The

1372
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: bullpen looks better than it has in previous years, and

1373
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: Shohy has made it clear that he's slightly concerned with

1374
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 3: the Angel's ability to build a winning roster and he's

1375
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: a free agent after the year, so this is there's

1376
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: no shot that if they're doing badly that they sell,

1377
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: and if they do then they're selling both Shohan Trout.

1378
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: I just don't see that happening. I think they go

1379
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: over eighty two and a half wins and I think

1380
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: they make a run at the playoffs. Do they make it?

1381
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't predict that, but I think it's going to

1382
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: be close.

1383
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: This is the deepest Angels team of the Otani Trout era,

1384
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 4: both pitching and position player wise, right Peter hit on

1385
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 4: the pitching and I loved the Tyler Anderson addition. I

1386
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 4: think det Meurs makes a leap this year. Patrick Sandoval

1387
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 4: was dynamite in the WBC and he's one of the

1388
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 4: more underrated arms in the game. And they've got some

1389
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 4: other depth guys, including the co host of the Armbarn

1390
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 4: and Tucker Davidson, who they would have killed for depth wise,

1391
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 4: you know in other spots over the last couple of

1392
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: years lineup wise, like you talked about Drury, but just

1393
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: how about the other guys that they can plug and play.

1394
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: Their bench options of Renhifo in Urshella would both be

1395
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: better than most of the guys that they started last

1396
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 4: year for a large amount of playing time. That makes

1397
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 4: me feel a lot better.

1398
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: Renhifo hit leadoff for them and is now a bench bat.

1399
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 4: Correct, And I think we I think of the guys

1400
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 4: that were drafted last year. I think Zach Netto will

1401
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 4: be the first to debut, and I think he's going

1402
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 4: to debut at some point this year. If he rakes,

1403
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 4: he could plug right in for David Fletcher if he stinks.

1404
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: What about Joyce?

1405
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 4: Oh true, Joyce coulde too. They could have the two

1406
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 4: first guys who debut, and Ben Joyce will debut this year.

1407
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: Throws one oh four and will you know kind of

1408
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 4: bolster that bullpen? If he can just find any semblance

1409
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: of command. They've got reinforcements coming to this. This team

1410
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 4: is the best Angels team we have seen with Trout

1411
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: and Otani. So I go over as well.

1412
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: Let's roll all right, clean sweep of the overs. We

1413
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: have yet to say an under for the AO West.

1414
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: My first undercomes now with Texas. I go under eighty

1415
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: one and a half arm. You mentioned they were what

1416
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: a sixty nine win team last year? Sixty eight sixty eight? Okay,

1417
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: so sixty eight with Sieger and Semon. Obviously, Seeger had

1418
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: some tough luck and Semion had that you know, brutal

1419
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: to open the year. I think they can get better. Obviously,

1420
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: they add to Gram, they add a Valdi, like they

1421
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: get a better rotation. Now my concern is you add

1422
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: guys that have had injury issues for their entire career,

1423
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: and that's like every single starter in the rotation. So

1424
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: I worry that I don't know. I guess this is

1425
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: an injury bet, but I go under eighty one and

1426
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: a half because I don't think that rotation stays healthy.

1427
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: There's one in each division, a path to a playoff

1428
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: berth and a path to destruction. The White Sox in

1429
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: the Central, the Red Sox in the East, and the

1430
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: Rangers in the West. And the Rangers, projected by Fangrafts,

1431
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: have one of the best rotations in Major League Baseball.

1432
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: But you look at each individual pitcher and there's a

1433
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 3: question mark with all of them.

1434
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: All of them.

1435
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 3: Jacob Degram health, Martine Perez replicating his performance from last year,

1436
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 3: Native Valdi injuries, and will he does he even look

1437
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 3: like the same picture after Velo dropped from last year.

1438
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 3: Andrew Heeney looked great with the Dodgers, but sometimes the

1439
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 3: Dodgers do that to you. Will he stay healthy and

1440
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: will he perform the bullpen. They lost Matt Moore, who

1441
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 3: was huge for them last year. They didn't really add much.

1442
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: The outfield looks really weak. The infield is fantastic, and

1443
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm expecting Josh Young to have a good season at

1444
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 3: third base. I love Seeger, I love Semon, and I

1445
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 3: love Nate Low or Nathaniel excuse me. And of course

1446
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 3: you got Jonah Him at catcher. There is a path here.

1447
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: Let's say these guys stay healthy. Let's say Martin Perez

1448
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 3: replicates what he did. They could be a very good team,

1449
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 3: for sure, but similar to the White Sox, you need

1450
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: a lot of things to go right for them to

1451
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: go over eighty one and a half. Again, not betting

1452
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 3: the under, not going to because there's way too much

1453
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 3: variance with this team. They could win eighty six games,

1454
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 3: they could win sixty nine games, we don't know. I

1455
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 3: think it's more likely that they go towards the under.

1456
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 3: That's why that's my prediction. But I'm not confident in

1457
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,839
Speaker 3: it because they control their own destiny. They could go crazy,

1458
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: or they could fall way short of expectations.

1459
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 4: Here you go on, yeah, out the outfield's rough. I

1460
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 4: do like the Robbie Grossman edition. You know, I think

1461
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 4: that's a nice, nice little underrated piece there. Delis Garcia

1462
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 4: is solid. But I think the big X factor here,

1463
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 4: besides Josh Young that's not in the active lineup, it's

1464
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 4: probably Ezekiel Durant because I do believe Duran could be

1465
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 4: an above average big leaguer. And if the twenty three

1466
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 4: year old who was acquired and the Joey Galla deal

1467
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 4: isn't above average big league outfielder, then the outlook on

1468
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 4: this team is much different. Right, this is a guy

1469
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 4: that's playing consistent center field instead of Bubba Thompson. That

1470
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 4: makes a big difference. I also really like the Mitch

1471
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 4: Garver edition. You have a really good defensive catcher and

1472
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 4: Jonah him you spell that with a really good offensive

1473
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 4: catcher in Mitch Garver. Those two could combine to be

1474
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 4: a pretty valuable, you know, behind the dish combination. I

1475
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 4: am interested to see what the timeline is on some

1476
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 4: of their pitching prospects. I think Owen White could help them.

1477
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 4: I think they do have trade capital. They were in

1478
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 4: on Brian Reynolds. I think that Chris Young is going

1479
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 4: to continue to be aggressive and might make a move

1480
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 4: if they sniff the wild card, you know, around the

1481
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: deadline time. You know, conventionally, I really do think that

1482
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 4: the under is the better bet, But I'm going to

1483
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 4: go with the over just off of a gut feeling

1484
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 4: here and because I trust Chris Young. But I definitely

1485
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 4: understand the under on this one.

1486
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: Similar to the White Sox arm and to the Red Sox. Honestly,

1487
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 3: I don't think taking either over or under is a

1488
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 3: bad take. It's just like, how optimistic are you?

1489
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: Right?

1490
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 3: So I think on the White Sox, Jack, to your point,

1491
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 3: where you had the over, I see what you're saying.

1492
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: We all have the under on the Red Sox, but

1493
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: I could easily pitch an over and it would make

1494
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 3: total sense. Right, So with these three teams, I don't

1495
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 3: think there's a wrong answer. I think it's just we'll

1496
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: wait and see. I think the percentages would tell you

1497
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 3: to lean the under.

1498
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: But if you're.

1499
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: Optimistic and you think that these guys stay healthy, they

1500
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: should go way over. So they're tough teams to gauge.

1501
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 3: They could be great or they could be terrible. But

1502
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't think that any of these three are gonna

1503
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 3: hit their bottom. But I don't think they're gonna hit

1504
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: their top either.

1505
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 1: All right, Oakland fifty nine and a half, This team's

1506
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: a joke. But fifty nine and a half is an

1507
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: insane number, So I have to go over.

1508
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 3: I lean with you, Jack, I would lean the over.

1509
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: They did sign a decent amount of veterans and their

1510
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 3: rotation is not awful.

1511
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: It's fine to have. It's yeah.

1512
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean, the definition of fine is an interesting words.

1513
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: Loose. It's loose.

1514
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: It's a very loose definition. They are below average, I

1515
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: think is fair, but they're not terrible and they're not

1516
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: one of the worst. Their lineup is one of the worst.

1517
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 3: Their bullpen is not very good either, especially after losing

1518
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 3: AJ Puck. Like we talk about the Marlins. That was

1519
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 3: a great addition, Like they lost AJ Puck. I think

1520
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: there's enough arms to keep them in games. And they're

1521
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: just the Oakland A's. They weirdly win games that they're

1522
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 3: not supposed to.

1523
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: When they weirdly win games with Olsen Chapman Sean Murphy

1524
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: another good point.

1525
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think this team goes sixty one

1526
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: and one oh one, So I would lean a slight over.

1527
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: But fifty nine and a half is crazy. I mean,

1528
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Member that's disgusting. The lack of effort into

1529
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: ruster construction for them. Yeah, but you know they have

1530
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 3: some veterans and will they play well, I don't know,

1531
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 3: but they have them.

1532
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: Are them? They have them? Which is they do exist? Yes,

1533
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: they do exist.

1534
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 4: Here's my thing. I like Kyle Moore. He's so terrible

1535
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 4: this spring. He's the opening days starter. Yeah, bu Janami

1536
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 4: is interesting. He can't throw a strike. Kaprellan like, He's

1537
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: had nice stretches. He could easily have a five next year.

1538
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 4: I like, but you know that's that's one guy. And

1539
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 4: then and he's been inconsistent. Then JP series Trevor May

1540
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 4: will be gone if he shows anything, and I think

1541
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 4: he will, and he'll be gone. They added Jury's familia,

1542
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 4: which is nuts. They paid to let him as DS

1543
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 4: seven million dollars. Seth Brown should have been He should

1544
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 4: have been gone six months ago. Shaye Langliers Rakes. I

1545
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 4: think a story of reuized is pretty solid. I'm gonna

1546
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 4: go nuts here. I'm gonna say under. I think this

1547
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,520
Speaker 4: is one of the worst teams in Major League Baseball history.

1548
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 4: When they trade, when they trade Tony Kemp, and when

1549
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 4: they trade to let him as DZ and maybe Seth Brown,

1550
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 4: which they should over the last two months of the season.

1551
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 4: I think it will be one of the worst teams

1552
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 4: we have ever seen. And Christian Paschet is gonna be

1553
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 4: getting every day reps and left hitting one to eighty,

1554
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 4: and I think this team is going to be historically bad.

1555
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 4: I want to take over fifty nine because it's fucking

1556
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 4: fifty nine. But you know what, Like, screw you, John Fisher,

1557
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 4: I'm taking the under. See.

1558
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate where our arms coming from here because I

1559
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: know he holds his cynicism for the right moment. And

1560
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: I typically don't like shit on an organization, but like,

1561
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna shit on one organ major League Baseball

1562
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: right now, it's the Oakland A's. What they're doing to

1563
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 1: that roster is criminal.

1564
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sold. Mark me down for the under. Yeah,

1565
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: Arm put it in pretty good terms. This team could

1566
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 3: suck out loud, and the fact that they're moving, I

1567
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: think they're only more motivated to suck even more, like

1568
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 3: just so the team like almost throws them out so

1569
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: they can leave. Yeah, fuck it, give me the under.

1570
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: They suck.

1571
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe I'm sticking to my guns. And

1572
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: going over here.

1573
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: I do like it, like from a betting angle. I've

1574
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 3: heard and talked to smart people who like the over

1575
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: and I just it's such a low number as team.

1576
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 3: It's such a low number. And it's like it's the A's,

1577
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 3: Like the A's just sometimes beat Otawny and the Angels

1578
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 3: sometimes like for no reason, Seth Brown just hits a

1579
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 3: homer and they win four to three and it doesn't

1580
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 3: make any sense, but they wait like they may.

1581
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: Have the worst home record in MLB history this year,

1582
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: like nobody's gonna show up.

1583
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, so much it, man.

1584
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 3: Watching those games. Watching those games is so depressing, you

1585
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 3: know when they do the pan to like the side

1586
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 3: of the stadium like down the line and normally their

1587
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 3: seats filled at every game. There's like like Saturday night

1588
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 3: baseball games when it's the Angels versus the A's and

1589
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 3: it's in Oakland and there's nobody in the ballpark, and

1590
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, if you're not gonna go to that game,

1591
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: what games are you gonna go to?

1592
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 4: That's what Fisher fucking wants, like that. He wants to

1593
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 4: tank the franchise out there, man, like he really does.

1594
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 4: And Fisher's a joke. I can't. It's unbelievable that he's

1595
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 4: able to do what he is doing. I almost wish

1596
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 4: they would vote him out. But yeah, I'm gonna take

1597
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 4: fifty five wins like you you have. Like I'm just

1598
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 4: imagining them out scoring another team for nine innings and

1599
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 4: then shutting the door sixty times.

1600
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: Sam Moule, I don't.

1601
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1602
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: Sam Brown is good.

1603
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seth Brown is good against rights against Righty's all

1604
01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: right against lefts.

1605
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 4: He looks like, man, there.

1606
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: We go, all right. Anthony Volpi made the Yankees opening

1607
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: day roster. Jordan Walker made the Cardinals opening day roster.

1608
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: Brett Batty and Mark Vientos were optioned to Syracuse. They

1609
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: will join Francisco Alvarez and Ronnie Mauricio there. If you

1610
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: want to break down of who broke camp. Oh, by

1611
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: the way, Oscar Co Lost made the roster as well.

1612
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: If you want to break down of who broke camp

1613
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: and who will be going to the minor leagues, go

1614
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: listen to the call up today, Like that's just the

1615
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: episode of all episodes there, Like, so you guys know

1616
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: who the rookies on opening day rosters are going to

1617
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: be So that's my call up plug. Obviously, go listen

1618
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: to all the other pods on our network, The Armbarn

1619
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: with Tucker Davidson Show, and go with Taylor Davis. Just

1620
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball is kicking tail right now, and a whole

1621
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: bunch of others.

1622
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: Peter, Yeah, if you're interested, you got the betting Twitch.

1623
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 3: You're seeing all these numbers and you're like, I want

1624
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 3: to make a play. But I on my podcast, Not

1625
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 3: Gambling Advice. American League Betting Preview, National League Betting Preview

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Speaker 3: is out now while you're listening to this, and the

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01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: next couple of days, I'll have my season long player

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01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 3: props on prize picks as well as individual awards to

1629
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: bet on bet MGM. It's more from a betting lens

1630
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,200
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1631
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 3: we do here on the Just Baseball Show. Get yourself

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1633
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1634
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Speaker 3: rocking something. Jack's maybe got some Just Baseball socks on.

1635
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 3: You never know underwear perfect That is in the episode description.

1636
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