WEBVTT - The Way The Cookie Crumbles 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:06.720 Welcome everybody to Amy and TJ. On this beautiful day 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.719 here in New York City. It is hot, hot, hot, 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.200 and I'm not complaining, how about you? 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.320 Uh No, it's I think it changes people's moods when 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.319 the weather gets gets nice like this, and then you 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.759 get on the subway and you realize attitudes were just 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.040 the same as they were on a cold day. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.640 Yeah, we did notice that today. Couldn't wait to get 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.920 back up on the ground and get out of that 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.360 subterranean mess. It kind of feels like the same every day. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:35.040 It's like drudgery down there. But it's the fastest way 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.040 anywhere in the city, and so I'll keep taking it 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.840 and try to keep a smile on my face. Still 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.240 have a smile on my face from yesterday. And Elise, 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.639 it's mixed emotions. But my baby, my youngest, had her 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.959 senior prom and god, it was beautiful weather and it 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.120 was Oh. I think everybody imagines what their senior prom 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.480 is going to be like, and it's pretty cool. She 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.480 goes to an all girls Jesuit high school here in 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.600 the city, and so prom's a little different from when 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.080 I went to high school. The stress of finding a 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.560 date and then getting the crusage and having the date 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:16.520 come pick you up. My daughter decided to basically just 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.560 go with a group of friends, and I just thought 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.600 it was so cool to see all the girls out there, 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.520 and she asked us moms to all come and help 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.640 them get ready. And it was just a really joyful, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.520 joyful day to see her laughing and care free and 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.320 just hitting this milestone in her life. And I'm trying 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.280 not to cry and just being joyful. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.360 Because yeah, it's almost like the end of an era, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.000 but I know it's the beginning of a new one. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.560 No, She's had a lot of milestones late. That had 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.480 her eighteenth birthday, which is on the same day as 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.200 her last day of high school. That all ended it 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.560 at the same time, essentially her youth in her high 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:55.560 school career. But then she got into Colorado the university. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.720 She's a buffalo, got worse. She's going to get to 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.320 travel overseas study brush. She's had a lot going on 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.080 and it's not done yet. So it's just a special 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.280 time for parents and for kids right about now, who 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.400 are a lot of graduations all over the country. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.560 Yeah, it's like, oh, I'm ting not to cry, but 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.040 you have these mixed emotions where you're like so excited 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:19.800 for them to go off into the world. But yeah, 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.120 it's like when you've spent the last twenty plus years 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:27.960 taking care of your kids and they're gone, it's it's 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.400 a lot to contend with. I actually saw Jennifer Gardner 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.960 posted something on Instagram yesterday because her oldest Violet, graduated 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.560 from high school and she was a rack. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.280 She was crying. She was like, what am I supposed 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.080 to do? And I really related, and I think a 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.000 lot of parents out there do too. Where like and 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.160 I would never want analyse to see me cry because 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.120 I don't want that pressure on her. But if I 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.720 talk about it, honestly, I will lose it. I haven't 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:00.239 fully processed it. And yeah, but it was beautif full 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.320 to see. And I really was like so happy yesterday 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.919 watching her with her girlfriends and in their gowns and 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.560 it was for them and celebrating their time in high school. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.240 It was you know, I think one of the girls 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.840 had a date and the other girl had a friend, 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.320 but the rest of them, I think there was five 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.960 girls just all going. We used to call it stag, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.880 but I don't think that's even a term anymore. But 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.359 they all just went with one another and it was 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:31.440 beautiful and I'm leaning into this new normal. But sorry, babe, 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.240 it's going to be a little rocky over the next 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.320 couple of months before I actually say goodbye to her 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.080 in August for college. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:39.080 She's gonna be a little rocky. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:40.600 Well, I'm gonna be a little emotional. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.160 I think you're always emotional. No, I mean I didn't 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.480 say as it is, so I don't. I don't know. No, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.240 I know all your levels of it. Like I said, 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.960 I always say, you don't united different moves, you're different levels. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:56.680 So yeah, no, it's it's it's fun to watch. You're 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.920 more excited than not excited that she's going to be gone, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.640 but you're excited for her, and this is is a 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.120 part of it, and it's it's been wonderful to watch 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.680 from my vantage point. But she's she's a good one, 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.840 and she's a good one in a way that she does. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.480 I've seen it when you didn't weren't even aware of it, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.680 where she does the right thing behind your back without 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.200 you ever knowing. You don't have to tell her to 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.000 say hey, make sure you say thank you, or make 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.080 sure you're this kind of polite, or do this thing, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.160 or she does it on our own. She's a good kid, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:25.800 she's never great. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.240 That's good to hear. Well. She was also very excited 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.479 because it was a big another milestone for her. I 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.640 don't know how other parents handled this, and certainly I 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.719 wasn't extended this and to each their own, but I 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.200 made this rule up for Eva, my oldest, on her 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.000 prom It was the first night of her life that 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.279 I didn't enforce a curfew, and so it kind of 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.520 set off this. You know, you're you're going into adulthood. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.000 I've to your point, I've hopefully instilled all the values 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:54.760 I can in you, and now I'm going to give 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.360 you some freedom. I'm gonna I'm not gonna cut the rope, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:58.919 but I'm going to loosen it a lot. And so 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.920 I found out today. They came in at four am, 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.880 so that was really exciting to them, to her especially, So, yeah, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.400 she had her first non curfew, and you know she's 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:11.960 going to be in college in a few months anyway, 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.720 so and she's traveling the summer without me, So it's 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.760 kind of silly to try to keep that control on 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.719 a night where I knew she was with her girlfriends. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.280 And the nice thing about the city is they're not 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.560 jumping into cars drinking and driving. That's just not that's 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.800 something that doesn't happen in the city because you're jumping 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.359 in an uber and you're with a group. So I 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.600 felt a little bit more comfortable giving her that leeway. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.400 But she had a Oh she knew what was happening 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:35.960 because it had already happened with Ava and she was 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.960 counting down the days until she didn't have a curfew. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.240 So I guess, I guess that's now the new thing, 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.440 which I'm not sure I'll be totally okay with all 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.680 the time. But it seemed to go well. Yesterday they 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:51.080 were all in there. It's funny. I knew that they 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.280 We woke up and I said, let me just see 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.400 to make sure they made it home. And I just 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.880 saw a bunch of shoes all thrown in the middle 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.960 of the hallway. I was like, yep, they're here, they 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.720 made it back. I'm good. So it was a fun night, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.200 and there's gonna be a lot more fun days ahead 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.120 before she leaves. I know. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.080 Yeah, I saw them when they came in at four, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.200 since that's my wake up time. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:18.919 Anyway, you did not, You're it was the end of it, 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:19.440 you know, I. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.640 Was up you wait, But did you really know they 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:22.159 got in it for. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:27.400 No, I didn't. I didn't talk to them. I didn't 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:28.599 want to see that mess. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.400 Yeah, they went from prom to they had an after 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.599 party for prom, which is a thing I guess now, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.320 and then they went to karaoke. So it was a 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.240 full night of fun and singing, and apparently their go 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.359 to song was unwritten by Natasha Beddingfield, an oldie but 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.120 a goodie. I was impressed. I was like, I like 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.840 that song. I listened to that song all the time. 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.279 What's your go to hiaoke? 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.360 Oh my god, I think it's Paradise by the Dashboard Light. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:07:01.119 Although I was just gonna say it's an indulgent song, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.400 because if you don't know it, you're you're like, what 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.239 the is going on? But it's meatball, No meat loaf, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.840 that's hilarious. I just said meatball, meat loaf. Yes, I 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:16.600 was up late. Meat loaf and Paradise by the dashboard Light. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.480 You know, it's a whole thing. I know every single word. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.520 But the song goes on for like seven minutes, and 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.400 so if you can find the other person because it's 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.400 a duet who knows all the other words? It's really fun. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.120 And but if you don't know the words, I'm sure 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.160 it's really annoying to watch me sing meat loafs Paradise 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:36.960 by the dashboard light. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.760 No, I'm sure everybody at a bar at two in 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.679 the morning intoxicated love was to see a seven minute 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:48.320 rendition of a song they've never heard of. By you? 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:50.040 It's great? 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:50.880 Well? 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.240 Yes, and how about you? What's your go to karaoke song? 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.080 I'm too sexy? Seriously, I have no idea. I just 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.840 think that almost be you. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.000 But if you had to do karaoke, what would be you? 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.840 Gotta give me some time on that. Have no idea, 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:06.720 no idea? 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.680 What the song? Do you know all the words? I mean, 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.120 I know they put the words up so you don't 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.800 have to know all the words, but it helps if 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.120 you do. Are there songs that you just know by 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.480 heart every single word? 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.120 Uh? Yeah? A lot of stuff by Prince, A lot 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.720 of stuff by Otis Redding and Sam Cook? Who the hell? 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.040 Once they hear sitting on the dock of the bay 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:27.040 too in the morning. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.680 I mean, you could sway, but the lighter go up. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.560 You know, there's a lot of ways you can enjoy that. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.199 I think, how do you enjoy that song? We're talking 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:41.439 about the same song. Yeah, that that makes you want 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:42.439 to throw a lighter up? 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.080 Yeah you know, you know when people in the concerts 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.079 put the lighter up, it's a slower song. They sway 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.040 they got the light going. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.400 No, really sad, it's really really I never thought of 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.160 that song as a sway with the lighter up song. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.440 Okay, maybe it's with your arms around the person next 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.720 to you and just kind of enjoying the cadence. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.840 Okay, yeah, this is why you don't play otis rating 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:02.480 at the carryoka. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:03.920 All right, all right, all right, we'll have to come 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.000 up with a karaoke song later. I'm I can't wait 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:07.240 to hear. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:07.880 Okay. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.040 Yes, some of this weather in New York City has 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.600 been so fun and it's been good to get out 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.240 and about. And we had a couple of fun nights 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.040 and one of them we actually were at a gathering 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.199 where I saw some old friends, friends I hadn't seen 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.000 a long time, and a friend who works at was 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.760 once our competing network at NBC and they launched a 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.240 show over there that competed against GMA three, and I 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.360 hadn't spoken to this producer since all of that had 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.120 taken place. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.920 So it was a really fun reunion. But she told 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:50.839 TJ and me something that was well, a little surprising, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.079 maybe even kind of amusing now, but definitely a little shocking. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:59.079 She told us that our show, GMA three, was welcoming 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.360 NBC into the daytime arena. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.920 There wasn't a show like that. Yeah, so it's like 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.079 the we had GMA three was with Good Morning America, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.560 but this was basically Today's show in the afternoon, and 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.280 we as a show, sent over a gift to welcome 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.920 them to daytime. We did not know that they sent 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.200 over a gift. Had you ever heard of that? 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.120 First? I heard it was the other day and apparently 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.160 this is something that took place almost two years ago now, 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.360 But no, we had no idea that this was done. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.200 I guess you could say on our behalf. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.319 Yes, And so this was the first as TJ just 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.320 said that we had heard about it. So we said, oh, wow, 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.280 we sent you all a gift and she was like, yes, 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.000 but do you want to know what the gift was? 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.440 And we said yes, Well, it had your faces all 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.840 over it, and we were puzzled, and she told us 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:51.960 that our show apparently sent over to the new NBC 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:57.120 show a welcome to Daytime gift package, which was cookies 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:03.360 with our faces on them. We were I mean, I 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.720 was a little mortified. How did you feel? 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.680 Well. It took us a while to try to understand 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:14.600 if she was serious or not, because we've seen this. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.440 It happens in the industry, and people, I don't know, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.480 they're competitors, but at the nice like a sporting event, 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.079 you shake hands with your competitor at the beginning and 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:24.960 at the end. But when you're out there on the 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.080 field of play, your enemies and your battling. It's the same. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.320 In news. Yes, we go at it hard, but we 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.240 all respect each other and a lot of us are 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.240 friends for the most part in the industry, so it's 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.640 not unusual when someone has a milestone, someone in a 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.240 competing station has a baby, or someone is god forbid, 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:48.280 sick or got a promotion. Even you send something flowers 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.319 and a note, and that's just industry standard. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.200 Right, I mean, when we saw we mentioned this in 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.160 an earlier podcast, when we saw even Kim Godwin, after 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.840 all that had gone gone on with us. We decided 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.360 to send a gesture to send a bottle of champagne. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.120 I think those are all things that would be reasonable 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.200 and understandable. So we were thinking, oh, we sent over 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.480 I don't know, yes, flowers, champagne something, but no, we 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:16.520 sent them cookies with our faces on them. And they 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.120 were all kind of thrown by that as well, because 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:20.839 maybe the. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:25.120 Intention was was I don't know what would the intention 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.120 be just kind of like game on welcome, but I 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:28.440 don't know. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.800 It doesn't I guess it matters what the intent was. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.880 We don't know that. All we can speak on now 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.080 is how it was received, and we know it was 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:42.839 received negatively. It wasn't appreciated and it was not necessarily 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.000 a laughing matter from what we were explained to us. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.959 I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't hoot and 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.920 holland at the end of the world because some cookies 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.679 were sent, but they it was taken at least says 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:57.040 its explained to us as a pretty bold and pretty 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.280 rude gesture, if you will, not funny in the least bit. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.480 So we apologize. We apologized to her on the spot 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.720 and we said, please, please, please go back to your 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.080 newsroom and tell them that we had nothing to do 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.000 with this and had no idea about it, and we're 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.079 sorry that something with our name, our faces literally on 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:23.480 it is something that was viewed so negatively by them, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:24.960 and it was somewhat insulted. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.960 Yes, and so yes, we deeply apologized. But she even 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.280 told us that they were kind of so taken aback. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.040 Maybe that's the way they She described how they received 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.480 it. It was kind of shocking, and just thought, wow, they 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.000 went there, they sent us cookies with their faces on it, 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.760 Welcome to Daytime TV. And they actually took a picture 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.320 of them with the cookies, and she has it on 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:52.000 her desk, and it's maybe it's motivating for them to 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.760 to keep doing what they're doing. And you know what, 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.040 it is a competition, the morning show wars. I'm sure 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.000 we've all heard about it, and it's all true to 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.720 your point, TJ. Like it is competitive. We are trying 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.200 to win the ratings. Everybody wants to be number one. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.280 That's just absolutely true. But anyway we were, we were 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.520 a little I was appalled. I was mortified that we 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.400 were a part of some gesture that we had no idea, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.079 Like no one even told US, consulted with us, asked 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:17.679 us if it was okay to put our faces on 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.480 these cookies. So we were glad we finally heard the 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.400 story and that we could actually let her know that 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.520 that is nothing that we sanctioned or suggested or would 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.320 have ever wanted to have taken place. So, yes, a 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.240 formal apology was long overdue, I believe, but we were 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.080 just made aware of the situation. So that was very 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.320 That was an enlightening moment, to say the very least, 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.320 when we when we ran into her and heard all 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.560 of that. But it was well, hopefully we set the 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:49.280 record straight. Yes, yeah, so we've been we've been what 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:49.920 else we've been doing. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.000 We've been watching TV per usual, and we were able 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.000 to actually sit down and watch not only the it's 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.480 been out there for a while, but we hadn't actually 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.560 taken the time to watch Jlo put out her movie. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.480 I always get the names confused. What's that one called? 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:05.640 This is Me Now? 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.320 This is Me Now? And then the documentary of the 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.720 making of the movie, which was the greatest love story 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.080 never told? And we actually I actually really enjoyed the 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:15.520 documentary how about you? 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.600 We watched in that order, so we watched the and 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.280 what does she call it's not a movie? It's not 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.160 a music video movie. What's she called it not a 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.600 music movie? She had a specific way she wanted to 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.280 explain what it what the movie was. So we saw 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:38.800 the music movie first and we got it. We understood 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.600 what she was trying to do there. The documentary, however, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.960 is fascinating. It is one of the most It's one 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.960 of those It was unexpected for me to see some 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.080 of the things that they left in, what was going 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.400 on behind the scenes, and just some of the dynamic 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:59.160 with her and her husband an athletics. So I loved, love, loved. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.560 The documentary, and I thought she was I thought she 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:06.400 was very raw, very vulnerable, you know, talked about the 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.280 challenges financially of getting something like this going, but then 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.920 even getting other celebrities on board. She was trying to 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.360 incorporate some folks into the to the movie. If you 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.480 see it, several people stepped up, including the amazing Jane 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.440 Fonda to just name one. But what it was like 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.280 to be rejected by people, to be rejected by you know, 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:31.240 financial institutions, by networks or you know, services that would 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.920 carry this movie. Just the struggles of putting it all together. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.360 So and she really opened up about her heart and 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.720 being maybe even a parody or something that someone laughs 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.600 at or makes fun of because she's been married four 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.880 times or had four marriages before Ben correct or is 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.480 Ben number four? Ben's number four? But then so we 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.000 just happened to take the time to watch these two, 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.440 and then all of these headlines have been popping up 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:02.800 about Jen and Ben and it's just for me to watch. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:07.000 It's it's fairly heartbreaking because to see, yes, I know 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.480 their celebrities, Yes I know they're in the spotlight, but 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:14.439 to just see the unbelievable scrutiny of a relationship from 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.520 body language, who is he wearing the ring? They haven't 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.480 been seen together in X amount of days, They're being 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:24.840 surveilled constantly, and people always have opinions and comments about 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.760 their relationship and just the stress that I know that brings. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.400 But I just I just feel like it's become sadly 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.080 a sport, not just in this country but around the 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:39.760 world to to watch people and then to almost I 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.439 don't want to say people hope for their failure, but 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.520 almost kind of reveled in reading about the failure or 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.440 reading about the problems or reading about and we don't 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.360 even know if there is an issue or if there 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.320 even is a problem. That's the whole point. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.439 But every headline says there is, and then that's what 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.960 people believe. And I just, I think my heart goes 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.600 out to both both of them about just I can't 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.439 even imagine. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.679 I mean, we had a certain level. There's is a 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.240 level that I cannot even imagine the scrutiny that they're 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:08.879 under constantly. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.800 There's been a lot of celebrity couple I've never been 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:17.800 that interested in celebrity relationship news. I can see now 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.520 where I was dismissive of people in my world who 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.199 were friends or whatever, who are so invested with what 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:30.080 happens to some celebrity couple with I guess Brad Pitt 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:35.320 and Angelina, or Brad Pitt and or two of the 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.000 I guess biggest couples who had so much I guess 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:44.879 tabloid scrutiny. But this one, I feel so invested in 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.679 their success for reasons I can't really comprehend. I just 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.640 and more so I think it's my heart is going 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.720 out to her for a lot of reasons. The woman 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:57.919 I'm going to root for anybody who won't give up 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.800 on love, who keeps trying. I'm going to root for 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:05.760 every single time. And I know he's going through his 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.720 struggles as well. It seems like so much emphasis is 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.159 put on her given the marriages, but I hate I 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:16.359 can't imagine, and I am so disturbed at the possibility 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.520 that these two might not make it. And the only 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.480 reason I think that is why would I even have 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.400 that in my head? Because everybody's writing the headlines, which 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.360 not a single one could be true. It's quite possible 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.120 none of it's true. And you know this, I don't 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.800 believe anything until j Lo comes in this studio and says, 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:34.639 you know what, DJ, this is what's going on. I 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.040 don't believe anything because I we, from our experience, know better. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.320 And then what happens is once one outlet writes something, 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.639 then everybody picks up on it. And then if you notice, 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.480 I know people can read things and read between the lines, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:03.600 it's always sources. The amount of sources that make comments 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.440 about what is or isn't is remarkable, But what are 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.959 and who are these sources? That's I think that's the 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.520 whole thing we've gotten away from. I mean, I know 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.719 there's a blurred line between mainstream media and tabloid media 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.200 and just voyeurism. People who are who have their cameras 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.639 up and ready to take a picture and then interpret 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.920 what the body language is. I mean, it's really it's sad, 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.520