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Speaker 1: came out of the cryopod at age thirty two. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Anses, and I'm joined in a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal Cryo pod man himself. What is up? Boys? Hi,

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Speaker 1: y'all you I'm still reeling from the pre show revealed

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Speaker 1: by west that he was the president of his French

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Speaker 1: dracted it. All right, Welcome to the Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast. This is what we do,

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Speaker 1: four days of content and in five that's good. Last

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Speaker 1: week it was five out of five. This week four

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Speaker 1: A lot to get to. This is a This is

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Speaker 1: a packed show. And uh we have a game preview

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Speaker 1: that game. Also, West Road a banger top rookie classes. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We also have a kind of a lookback segment earlier

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Speaker 1: Erica squeezes in an Erica sound bite, a stunning development.

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Speaker 1: That segment was a big hit. And else Sessler Household,

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Speaker 1: Twitter show? Oh no, I've been saying it wrong and

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Speaker 1: everything going great over there these days and now because

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Speaker 1: because they decided, um that you know, winning is not enough,

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Speaker 1: constantly winning in her quarterback, never getting hurt, never being

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Speaker 1: in a walking bood and practice uh, never missing ultimple

433
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Speaker 1: weeks foot injury. Uh, they gotta start stealing nicknames down

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Speaker 1: and what are they doing Trey Flowers. It's not enough

435
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Speaker 1: that he's the number one ranked PF pass rudger on

436
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Speaker 1: the on the edge. It's not enough that he won

437
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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast Award for PF Unsung Hero.

438
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Speaker 1: Now they gotta go stealing nicknames. Listen to this. To

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Speaker 1: fensive coordinator Brian Flores says, those around the Pats organization

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Speaker 1: refer to Trey Flowers by a different name, the Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: which in their opinion, perfectly encapsulates flowers personality and playing style.

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Speaker 1: You don't hear much from him. But he's been a

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Speaker 1: warrior for us. He's played lights out for us since

444
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Speaker 1: he's gotten here. You're not allowed to do that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you really want to dig into it. One could

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Speaker 1: argue that the quiet Storm was initially applied to Courtney Brown,

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Speaker 1: the first overall pick of the two thousand draft. But

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Speaker 1: he came gone, He came and gone, he's gone. You

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Speaker 1: can't have you can't now have. Here's the problem. I'm

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Speaker 1: the one in trouble here. If you want to say that,

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Speaker 1: that's my nickname, because this is someone who's much more

452
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Speaker 1: well known. It's probably much ten times better at his

453
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Speaker 1: day to day job, and featured on national television multiple

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Speaker 1: times during the autumn into the Winner. Uh, we're not

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Speaker 1: even on television at this point, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: what this is not trending well for this production. You

457
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Speaker 1: earned that nickname. I coined that sitting across from you

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Speaker 1: on Sundays because there was always a rage below the surface,

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Speaker 1: even though you're quiet throughout games. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: Trey Flowers fits. In fact, how many nicknames does this

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Speaker 1: guy need? What other nicknames? He's been called technique by

462
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Speaker 1: his defensive teammates for the past few years. I believe

463
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Speaker 1: Tony Romo had a different nickname from him after talking

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Speaker 1: to their teams and coaches in a game, and people

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Speaker 1: just invite nicknames. You know, Mark, You're on the internet though,

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Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts though? My Mark? On the internet.

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Speaker 1: You've been Courtney Brown retired. But in between Courtney Brown's

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Speaker 1: retirement and your emergence as The Quiet Storm, the movie

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Speaker 1: The Quiet Storm was released in it if for our

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Speaker 1: listeners who aren't familiar with it, it was a politically

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Speaker 1: charged full length action thriller revolve being around a gang

472
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Speaker 1: of four at a Pan African meeting. It's decided for

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Speaker 1: the for there to be positive change. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: It's really correct out in the social and economic situations

475
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Speaker 1: of Africans at home. Some of the leadership problems will

476
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Speaker 1: need to be rectified. Why was that so funny? To wait?

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Speaker 1: We also put out it was not what I was expecting.

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Speaker 1: It was like a UK corrupt puppet African leader. Did

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Speaker 1: you see that? You said? For the listeners who have

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of that movie. I haven't either. But

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Speaker 1: we also put out a movie, or at least the

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Speaker 1: trailer for The Quiet Storm. They took his tea viciously

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Speaker 1: below average. They stole his innocence childlike, but not to

484
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Speaker 1: suggest innocence or purity. They made a football life about

485
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Speaker 1: his misery, control all to lead and opened the factory

486
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Speaker 1: upsetness that never closed. Now the climate is right for

487
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Speaker 1: revenge this winter. There's a and came coming for anyone

488
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Speaker 1: who looks in this direction on a Sunday, it'll be

489
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Speaker 1: an apocalyptic sunset. Mark Sessler is quiet store. This show

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Speaker 1: cannot end fast enough, and I have a sharply worded

491
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Speaker 1: letter to hand to you, my friend. Um So, anyway, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'm disturbed. We but that that show. We had the

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Speaker 1: quiet storm. It's locked in, and I feel like litigation

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Speaker 1: is not the worst avenue here. I would love to

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Speaker 1: pursue it. Um, I'd like to have the league, you know,

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Speaker 1: my employer get behind it. Let's put some of their

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Speaker 1: money into it. It's very expensive to try to take

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Speaker 1: on the Patriots financially. It's also time consuming. Don't have

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Speaker 1: to Greg's point, it was like it was like our

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Speaker 1: All right, so this is a segment we call you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mark, You're gonna get us going, uh with

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Speaker 1: a prediction that you made uh get it started, Quiet Storm. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This came um in our week three recap when I

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Speaker 1: was very agitated with a with one team from the

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Speaker 1: a f C West, the Chargers. I am sorry, I

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Speaker 1: cannot at this point sit through many more weeks of this.

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Speaker 1: I have Chargers exhaustion, they need Joey Bosa back, and

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Speaker 1: they just got to clean it up on special team.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, right, I guess I'm not holding my breath.

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Speaker 1: So at that point you were just done, Mark, you

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Speaker 1: were you. You felt another Charger season was coming that

556
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Speaker 1: was going to be just like the rest of them,

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Speaker 1: but it hasn't quite worked out that way. Yeah. I

558
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Speaker 1: just could not tolerate a Charger's team that lost to

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Rams. How could I put up with

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Speaker 1: that kind of a squad? Little did I know they

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Speaker 1: would not lose since they look like the most balanced

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Speaker 1: team in the entire conference, and the team ready to

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Speaker 1: play spoiler and say you want to just give the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Patriots the bye. Well, they've got an

565
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Speaker 1: absolute cupcake schedule coming up. They've got teams like the

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Speaker 1: Broncos and the Cardinals and the Raiders, and they have

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Speaker 1: a very good shot to get to Pittsburgh in week

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Speaker 1: thirteen at nine and two. And at that point they're

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Speaker 1: very much in the conversation to steal one of those

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Speaker 1: buys from the Patriots or the Chiefs and say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, Cecil, you don't know censored, you don't know anything.

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Speaker 1: What Wait a second, when you leave knock Water, well,

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Speaker 1: I have to give Bridget is correct this time. So

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Speaker 1: you owned up to a good job by you. This

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Speaker 1: happens all the time, teams that everyone likes year after year.

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Speaker 1: The moment that you were very common, I would say,

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Speaker 1: in in your opinion of being tired of the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: even people like me and Mark West who have been

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Speaker 1: loving this team for years, we started getting pretty quiet,

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Speaker 1: and we started getting a little bore, you know, just

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Speaker 1: wondering if this thing's ever gonna happen. The moment that

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Speaker 1: that happens, then suddenly Melvin Gordon is looking as good

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Speaker 1: as any running back in the league. Desmond King is

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Speaker 1: winning multiple games for them, and Rivers is having this season.

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting for Din. Will Brentson jump off this band?

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Speaker 1: He did? He did, giving him grief. Well, he and

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Speaker 1: I picked the Chargers to go to the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: last year, and I think we were bit by that.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when we when we get to mind, it

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Speaker 1: is from the show that Will was on with us

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Speaker 1: where I believe he did h oh yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: the episode where he went nuts and just said he

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Speaker 1: was out. Yeah, bad timing, Mark. What is the charges

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Speaker 1: find record going to be at the end of a

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Speaker 1: think I think they're gonna be a thirteen and three team. Wow.

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Speaker 1: But again, everything that I've said about the Chargers is

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Speaker 1: completely wrong. So the twelve and four feels very real

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Speaker 1: to me. Juggernauts stuff. Thirteen and three is you might

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Speaker 1: you might have to win in Kansas City to get there,

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Speaker 1: and you might win the division if you go. I

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Speaker 1: think they are going to split with the Chiefs, which

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Speaker 1: would be amazing. Wes, what do you got? I doubted

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the league and one

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Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league, and it was

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Speaker 1: because of a sequence at the end of a Week

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Speaker 1: three game and the sequence everybody knows because he couldn't.

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Speaker 1: He was replaced on a hail mary attempt. And then

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Speaker 1: I actually used the name Chad Pennington in the same

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Speaker 1: sentence as Andrew Luck out now and Jacoby precent for

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Speaker 1: the hail Mary, and everyone's wondering what's wrong with Andrew

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Speaker 1: lux arm. To me, that's a sure sign that Rich

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Speaker 1: is admitting Andrew Luck's arm isn't where it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's not Chad Pennington. Maybe he's still working

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Speaker 1: back to get that arm strength. But no other no

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Speaker 1: other quarterback in the league gets pulled in this situation

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Speaker 1: as much as that how Mary. What bothered me was

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Speaker 1: the place before that, there are forty three seconds left.

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Speaker 1: He could have worked down for he could have worked

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Speaker 1: he was just taking easy checkdowns for four or five yards.

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Speaker 1: No desire, what's whatsoever to test the eagles down the field?

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Speaker 1: Island is the dirties one. Oh, you gotta help bridget,

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Speaker 1: you gotta hell and you die. I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: she got out of the garage. Was unfair, not right,

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Speaker 1: not right. But here's Andrew Luck now, and he is

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck again. More or less right was He's still

627
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Speaker 1: in pace to tide rubrees for the fifth most touchdowns

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Speaker 1: in a season. He's on pace for forty six touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: And ever since you know, my ridiculous comments about his

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Speaker 1: Zach Pascal and mo Ali Cox an offense, averaging that

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Speaker 1: that was the game. Everyone was worried, though. I think

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Speaker 1: people even like the Eagles, you could hear after the game,

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Speaker 1: we're kind of they weren't impressed with what they saw

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Speaker 1: out of Andrew Luck. He wasn't. His arm didn't look great.

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Speaker 1: And he is a different quarterback. He's not the same

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Speaker 1: old and and that's fine. A lot, a lot, a

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Speaker 1: lot of it's better. Like he's a he's a smarter quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You forget how young he is. He's playing so intelligently.

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Speaker 1: He's not nearly the same runner as he used to

641
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Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to be, because he's trying to

642
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Speaker 1: stay away from getting any hits, which was an old

643
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: problem that he had. His arm I don't think is

644
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Speaker 1: quite where it was, But it doesn't matter. Here's plenty

645
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Speaker 1: of arm, and he's better in so many and how

646
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Speaker 1: much of a difference. Has the offensive line improvement made?

647
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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that helps you be a

648
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Speaker 1: smarter quarter I think and Luck has made are the key.

649
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Speaker 1: Rich has been the key to making the offensive line better.

650
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Speaker 1: He's getting the ball out of his hands quicker than

651
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Speaker 1: almost any quarterback in the league, and you run an

652
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Speaker 1: offense that that makes them look better. When your name

653
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Speaker 1: is Mo Ali hyphen Cox, the assumption is that one

654
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Speaker 1: parent uh had the last name of Ali and one

655
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Speaker 1: had the last name of Cox, or is it multiple

656
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Speaker 1: parental situations or maybe the family split it some Most

657
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: most hyphenms are are a divorce or you just want

658
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Speaker 1: to have both names. But we're assuming that it isn't

659
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Speaker 1: a hyphen aated last name. That is the actual confidence there. Well,

660
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Speaker 1: don't you guys know, don't you know a lot of

661
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Speaker 1: people with hyphens and how many of them aren't exactly

662
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Speaker 1: that situation but could be just well, I'm gonna do

663
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Speaker 1: some some curs. The Alley and Fletcher Cox, if they

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Speaker 1: got married, they wanted to hook it up and at

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Speaker 1: that couple together. Let the record show there was one

666
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Speaker 1: person who did not question Andrew Luck's arm strength after

667
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Speaker 1: that game, and that was Andrew Luck. Who insisted that

668
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Speaker 1: his arm was just fine. Yes, believe his quote right

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Speaker 1: after the game was shut when someone asked him, which

670
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Speaker 1: is not like Andrew Luck, but he must have felt

671
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: very competent. Eric is like yet another edit to this show.

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00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: All right, Greg, why don't you go next? I got

673
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: carried away talking about a team who's basically the same

674
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: team every year after year, and I kind of like

675
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Speaker 1: a lot of bad predictions. That was just wish casting.

676
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: This is what I was hoping would happen. It was stupid.

677
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers, it's not is a ship going downhill.

678
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Speaker 1: Something smells Ben Ben Roethlisberger said he's not on the

679
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: same page with anybody. And Ben Roethlisberger loves to put

680
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: little passive aggressive quotes into the media. It actually do

681
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: mean something. Antonio Brown's not getting the ball as much.

682
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: The Steelers defense is a shell of its former self.

683
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: No pass rush. James Conner has been under twenty yards

684
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Speaker 1: two of the last three weeks, the lowest rushing total

685
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Speaker 1: the Steelers vet since nineteen seventy And by the way,

686
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Speaker 1: they're in the best division in football. They're not getting

687
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: past the Ravens and the Bengals because those teams are legit,

688
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: and even the Browns are gonna be tough. They could

689
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Speaker 1: be at the past place at the end of I

690
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: really wanted you to go golf. But I like that

691
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: you forgot about Greg. This is an intervention, help us,

692
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Speaker 1: help you. She does seem to have a lot of

693
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Speaker 1: empathy for you, Greg. I appreciate that. You know I

694
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Speaker 1: have a special connection with women. Okay, unconfirmed, other unconfirmed?

695
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Speaker 1: I do like that was that was from our Twitter

696
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Speaker 1: show and I had given the Steelers the award of

697
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: a team you should freak out about. Mark thought I

698
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: should have or something you should freak out about. Mark

699
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: thought I should have given it to another nominee, which

700
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: was the entire sport of golf. It would have been

701
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: much a much better choice because golf's going downhill. It's

702
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: a total going it's a total bore. And you know what,

703
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers have one of the best offensive lines, one

704
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: of the best receiver groups, one of the best running games,

705
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: one of the best red zone offenses, and they still

706
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Speaker 1: have Ben Roethlisberger, who's fine even when he's not playing

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Speaker 1: that one. Could hear it in your voice too, Do

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Speaker 1: you have you said wish casting and you could hear

709
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: the excitement because you even though the Patriots always take

710
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: care of the Steelers when it matters, you just don't

711
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: want them in the picture. You don't want him around anymore.

712
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: It just would have been you don't want the same

713
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: thing year after a year. It's fun to see bad

714
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: good teams get bad and bad teams get good. Well, yeah,

715
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: that's that's the team that should never get every year.

716
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Speaker 1: And there's like a player two. I have a complete

717
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Speaker 1: disconnect with UM and Pro Football Focus. Ben Roethlisberger is

718
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: the guy this year. They have him behind guys like

719
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, Dak Prescott, Blake Bortle's case, Keenum. I think

720
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: it looks like Ben Roethlisberger. He missed a few throws

721
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: in September, but he's moving better than he did last

722
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: year in the pocket. The offense is on fire there.

723
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not making breaking turnovers. How do you

724
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: grade those guys ahead of him? I think if you

725
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: looked at his grades over the last and I'm doing

726
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: it now, over the last four weeks have been good.

727
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: So he just buried himself with a lot of he

728
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: got away with a lot of himself. I mean he's

729
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: he's alive and living and the first in the way

730
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: that they grade the first four or five weeks of

731
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Speaker 1: the season, we're so bad, just with a lot of

732
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: lucky plays that didn't get intercepted and not a lot

733
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Speaker 1: of the conventional Ben's gonna do something on his own place.

734
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Speaker 1: But I think you've seen those over the last three

735
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: or four weeks and he's been fine. Uh. Close it

736
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Speaker 1: out with my thoughts which were back in the Wednesday

737
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: show ahead of week three, Uh, the Seahawks were owing

738
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Speaker 1: two and beyond being oh and two, they just seemed

739
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: to be a direction list oh and two or a

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00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: team in search of an identity which we had not

741
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: been used to u up there in Seattle. Here's what

742
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: I said early in seen the Seahawks were still had

743
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: their core together. They got off to a one in

744
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: one start, and you weren't sure what team they would be,

745
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: but you kind of thought they were gonna figure it

746
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: out and again be a team in the NFC. UH

747
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: to be reckoned with at the start of two thousand eighteen.

748
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: Two weeks and I don't think there's any question that

749
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are and also ran that the Seahawks are

750
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: rebuild and you see it on both sides of the ball.

751
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: I was borderline depressed, like the Seahawks don't matter right now,

752
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: and that's that's a big change from what we've gotten

753
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: used to over the last five or six years. No worries, honey,

754
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: how could you have known? I mean, we all knew,

755
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: we all knew that was not going to wind up

756
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: as any sort of critique of you, despite your analysis

757
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: being as far off course as possible. All Right, it

758
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: was worth it. Um. Okay, So the Seahawks do have

759
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Speaker 1: an identity. They are not also end They're also not

760
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: a superpower. It's not like, um, they've been blown the

761
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: doors off the off this industry of football, Greg Rosenthal's

762
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Speaker 1: fourth favorite team count as an identity. And maybe maybe,

763
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: but they were owing two. Uh they then won four

764
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: or five and they their defense really did develop. They

765
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: quickly found a new niche um with big playmakers. Frank

766
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: Clark seven and a half sacks halfway through the season.

767
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: He could be on All Pro. This is a team

768
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Speaker 1: that has found itself defensively. Offense has been better, the

769
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: running game has been better. Russell Wilson has had some

770
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: really nice moments this season. Uh, they did stumble a

771
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: little bit at home against the Chargers, which takes a

772
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: little bit winned out of the sales of the team,

773
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: But overall, when you look at them, UM, I think

774
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: they are an NFC team that is going to be

775
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: in the mix for the wild card spot. They have

776
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: three laws, their four losses all of them UH one

777
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: score games, and the combined record of the teams that

778
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: beat them nineteen and six. So what that kind of

779
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: tells me is they're not quite at the level of

780
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Speaker 1: these top teams in the league, but they can hang

781
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: with any team, and they can beat all the bad teams,

782
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: and most of the teams are in the middle of

783
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: the road, they can hang with them and beat them too.

784
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. We're gonna learn a lot

785
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: about them coming uh over the next three weeks because

786
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: they go to Los Angeles against the Rams, tough, tough matchup,

787
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: especially with the Rams coming off that loss, and then

788
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: home with Packers and then at Panthers. So they need

789
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: to win probably two of those three games, UH to

790
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: to stay above water at least one obviously, UH, And

791
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll learn a lot about them. But I

792
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: was wrong at that moment. Thinking that this team was

793
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna be six and ten type outfit with no juice.

794
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I would say if they ever found a way to

795
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: sneak in to the final wild card spot, it's improbable

796
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: with their schedule. But almost regardless, I would like to

797
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: see Pete Carroll in the conversation for Coach of the Year.

798
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: I have no idea what coach of the year means

799
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: in this league because Bill Belichick never gets it, and

800
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: he probably should get it every year. But wait, what

801
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll dealt with in the offseason, having to displace

802
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of veterans who had maybe lost the lost

803
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: the message of Pete Carroll, and and and and we're

804
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: taking over the team in a bad way to move

805
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: on from them, engage in a rebuilding project, have everyone

806
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: write you off, and then show what he's done with

807
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: all these new faces and these younger players and their

808
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: secondary looks great all over again. I mean, he's doing

809
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: everything he did the first time, he's beginning to do

810
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: it a second. What is the coach of the year

811
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Speaker 1: you alluded to? Kind of the the veteran issue. Earl

812
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: Thomas a big issue with him, the hold out he

813
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: does play. He's an impact player and then he gets

814
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: hurt and he's out for the year. So they've been

815
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: able to fight through that as well. At the time

816
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Speaker 1: of your statement, Dan, we all thought this was a

817
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: six and ten team. Yeah, I thought eight nine win

818
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: team going into the sea, except that's probably where they're

819
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna be at not at that time. I mean, we

820
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Speaker 1: could go back and I would say at least half

821
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Speaker 1: of my predictions would all be wrong. It wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: hard to find incorrect predict I'd say nine out of

823
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Speaker 1: ten of mine, or probably definitively about half. I would say,

824
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Speaker 1: I'm just throwing darts at a non dartboard. That we

825
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: provide a lot of value in different ways, predictions is

826
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Speaker 1: not one of them, and it's not one that any

827
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Speaker 1: football analyst provides any value, right, And it's not just

828
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Speaker 1: football industry. It's like it's studies have been done that

829
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: the best experts in basically any medical, scientific fields whatever

830
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: have no predictive powers whatsoever on what like. You can

831
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: you can analyze this, but you can You're not gonna

832
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen in the future. That's why it's

833
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: sensor damn future. Find Find me one other football show.

834
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: In existence where they set around telling each other we

835
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: provide value in other ways, like what time do you

836
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: stop down and tell the listener that we are providing value.

837
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: It is unbelievable what happens on this show. All right,

838
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: there you go. We blew it, but we owned up

839
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: to it, so we're the best. All right, now let's

840
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Speaker 1: move on. Uh, let's hit this. Uh pretty quick, but

841
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: we should hit because West, you got a banger that's coming.

842
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: Is it up on the site yet or yeah, it

843
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: should be up by the time this podcast is released. Yeah,

844
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: that makes this breaking news. Top ten rookie classes Uh

845
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and Uh, you put a lot of

846
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: thought into this, West, Um, do you want to tell us?

847
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: First of all, why don't you just throw out the

848
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Speaker 1: number one? Who has the best rookie class? As of

849
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: halfway through the sason to me, there are two that

850
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: stand above the crowd. It's the Browns and the Colts.

851
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: And I gave the edge to the Browns for the

852
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: quarterback factor. They nailed the right one, and a lot

853
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: of people thought they should have taken Sam Donald. Josh

854
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: Allen's name was in the mix. A lot of people

855
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: thought Josh Rosen was maybe the best NFL ready quarter

856
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: but I think they, after all of their due diligence,

857
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: settled on Baker Mayfield, the right guy who's been the

858
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: most productive and the most promising of the rookie quarterbacks.

859
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: That's a big that's a big call. Denzel Award is

860
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: on my mid season All Pro team, and Nick Chubb

861
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: has rushed for yards on forty fewer attempts than Carlos.

862
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: Hodge looks really good. He looks like, I don't know,

863
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: like Eddie. There's not many running backs around like him

864
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: right now. He's more explosive than Eddie. Yeah, but like

865
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: a young Eddie Eddie. George was explosive when he was young.

866
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: But he has a very good sense of like what

867
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: holes to hit and how to set up runs. Like

868
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: he's just kind of an old school He seems like

869
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: he has great vision. I think it's the third or

870
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: fourth week where Mayfield and Chubb are up for Rookie

871
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: of the Week that this combination of these players has

872
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: happened three or four times this season, so it is promising.

873
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: And I guess all this like, you know, moping around

874
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: after they fired the coach. It's like there is this

875
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: is different this time because a that had to happen,

876
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Like there was no way that anyone thought that you're

877
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: traveling into the deep future with Hugh Jackson. It happened

878
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: too late. That's fine, but there is hope this time

879
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: because when you look at this roster and how it's built,

880
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: the right coaching staff has a lot to work the

881
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: way the Browns are number one. What it makes sense

882
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: to me because eight like even if you look at

883
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: the late round picks Genard Avery and Damien Rally, I

884
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: like how Ratley looks and I think Avery's Avery. These

885
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: are third round picks, third day picks, so that Avery

886
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: is gonna be a starter for them. He already is

887
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: filling in and I think he's going to be a

888
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: starter for the next you know, half deck. Why why

889
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: the Colts over the Broncos? Where are the Broncos? I

890
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: I was thinking that bronc have off. They have They're

891
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: the only team with a defensive Rookie of the Month

892
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: and an offensive rookie of the month. Darius Leonard to me,

893
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: has had a bigger impact than any rookie in football.

894
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: He leads the NFL and tackling. He has four sacks,

895
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: seven tackles for lost a few force fumbles. This guy

896
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: is a playmaker. Quentin Nelson and Braden Smith on their

897
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: offensive line are both starting um and to me, they're

898
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: both like assets, whereas the Broncos have Bradley Chubb and

899
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay who are assets. But who else is really?

900
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: Courtland suss he's very the potential is through the roof,

901
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: but he's got less than a fifty percent catch rate

902
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: to Philip Lindsay, Right, yeah, Philip Lindsay, like he's getting

903
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: it done. What would you say about the Broncos. I

904
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: know Bradley Chubb has come on, he's obviously they made

905
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: a good pick there. But let's say they had taken

906
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen instead of Chubb where with this class and

907
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: we would be getting a different version of Josh Rosen

908
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: because he wouldn't be encamped on one of the worst

909
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: offenses we've ever seen. They didn't address the quarterback situation,

910
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: and that's the one reason I think. I mean, l

911
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: Wade needed this draft, and he really needed badly, But

912
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: I still get stuck on these teams like the Giants

913
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: and Broncos that ignored the most important position. Yeah, I

914
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: think I would have to save that for a few

915
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: years to find out who Josh Rosen is gonna be.

916
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: To this, I want an answer right now to this point,

917
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Met West Cardinals are not on this list because the

918
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: rookies haven't really played that well. Even though they addressed positions.

919
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen hasn't been an asset for the Cardinals this year.

920
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: All right, quickly West. The team on this list that

921
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: kind of intrigued you the most their rookie class. Uh

922
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: and the since you I assume when you did this

923
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: you kind of went through all the teams right who

924
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: had the worst rookie class so far? I like that too.

925
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars aren't getting much at all out of

926
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: the rookie class. That's one team really. Some of the

927
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: better teams, the Rams, of course didn't have as many

928
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: draft picks, so they're not getting as much. The Chiefs

929
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: aren't getting a ton from their rookie class. So I

930
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: think those are like the ones where it's like, oh,

931
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: there isn't much there. Um. The one intriguing team that

932
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: is on this list, I think the Panthers, who are

933
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: now like you're seeing them hit their stride as they

934
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: work in d J Moore um Dante Jackson is Brian

935
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Baldinger's picked for defensive Rookie of the Year. So far,

936
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: he tied for the leading interceptions. So I think the

937
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: Panthers like they're being fueled by their young players. We

938
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, mocked, maybe not mocked, but we

939
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: were critical of Mark then bringing back Marty Hernie. We

940
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: were like built statues to Dave Gettleman. Well, Dave Getleman's

941
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: had a terrible year personnel wise with the Giants, and

942
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: the Panthers have had a nice year since he's left. Uh,

943
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: it's funny when you talk about these draft classes and

944
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: we have killed the Giants and rightfully so this has

945
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 1: not worked out at all. If we just wait, though,

946
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: if you just wait, the Giants, and I don't know

947
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: enough about the college football, seem to know if there's

948
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: a star quarterback that they can get, they're gonna pick

949
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: the best quarterback probably on the board or close to it.

950
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: So maybe this time next year they will have everything.

951
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: But they don't get any credit for lucking into that

952
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: quarterback because they're so bad at their job. My point,

953
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they deserve credit. I'm just saying that

954
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: was and has worked played out for them. It might

955
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: ultimately all work out. They have Barkley and a quarterback

956
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: they could build. They thought they were a nine win team.

957
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: The fact that they were so wrong about their own

958
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: team could end up saving them. The only problem for them, too,

959
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: is you're gonna be compared whatever quarterback it is. You've

960
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: got Sam Donald playing in the same stadium for the Jets.

961
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: That is an unpleasant concoction for Giants. If Donald hits,

962
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: that will always stick with them, especially if Barkley does

963
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: not become a generational talent. Well, the range of possibilities

964
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: is they might find that quarterback next year in the draft,

965
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: or it could be twenty years like the Browns and

966
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: the Bills before they find a quarterback. Right, all right,

967
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Speaker 1: there you go check it out NFL dot Com slash whistling.

968
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Speaker 1: Maybe about an r L if the beltime powers that

969
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Speaker 1: be deem it you know worthy. It feels like Vanity

970
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Speaker 1: or Els might have jumped the shark. I think like

971
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Speaker 1: written content on the internet is ye, I think dot com.

972
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Speaker 1: But it seems like that's a problem. Are all right?

973
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Fair point? Uh, we'll save that for the Future of

974
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: the Industry podcast coming up in the offseason. But let's

975
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: close out the show by taking a look at the

976
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: first game on the week ten sk droll the Carolina

977
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: Panthers six and two and rolling, absolutely rolling. They've won

978
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: five of six and three in a row, and now

979
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: they head to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. Thank God,

980
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: a good game on Thursday night, because the Steelers are

981
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: as hot as any team in the a f C,

982
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: with five wins out of six and four straight. Quiet Storm,

983
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: and you are the one and true Quiet Storm. This

984
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: is a game that you're gonna watch and not hate.

985
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: And I know it. Oh I'm I'm excited for this game.

986
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: I only all I want is intriguing matchups. I especially

987
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: love when you get two teams that don't see each

988
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: other often like this, and they're both surging right now.

989
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: The Panthers have zero turnovers in the last three games.

990
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: They're not making mistakes. Cam Newton is the best red

991
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: zone quarterback in the league at this point. I think

992
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a lot of d J. Moore in

993
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: this game. They're gonna try to get him unleashed. And

994
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers, as much as I disdain the concept of

995
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: them always making the playoffs, are very fun to watch

996
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: right now, and it starts for me with James Conner.

997
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: That that's all I have to say. Two of the

998
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: best tackling defenses in football. I think they don't make

999
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: These teams don't make a ton of mistakes. You're right,

1000
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: Cam Newton might be the best red zone quarterback. The Steelers,

1001
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: I know, are second in the league in red zone efficiency.

1002
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are randomly first. So these are

1003
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: two teams who you can kind of compare because they

1004
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: both just finished up walking the Ravens defense up and

1005
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: down the field. They did it in different ways, but ultimately,

1006
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: especially in the Carolina game, the offense of the Panthers

1007
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: dominated that game. They're both really good on third downs,

1008
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: and I think it's because they have so many options.

1009
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, DJ Moore is really fun to watch, and

1010
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: the Panthers coaching staff is under the radar. Not North

1011
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: Turner necessarily this year, but just the way that they

1012
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: do things. They had. They've had as many injuries as

1013
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: anyone on the offensive line. Their offensive lines playing well,

1014
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: so that to me is coaching. Dante Jackson and James

1015
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Bradberry are I'm not gonna say they're the best cornerback duo,

1016
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: and but they're very good, and those are guys that

1017
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: weren't drafted very high that people don't talk about that much.

1018
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: And that's coaching, that's kind of having a system where

1019
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: you're making your players look better maybe than they would elsewhere.

1020
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis said this week that the Panthers now are

1021
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: more talented than the two thousand fifteen team that went

1022
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. And I think that cornerback duo

1023
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: is a good reason. And the weapons with Curtis Samuel D. J. Moore,

1024
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey on offense is another. Their offense is definitely

1025
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: better than that team. And it's crazy, though it's true.

1026
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: Though you're right, since we're here, we should mention the

1027
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell situation. He's still not with the team.

1028
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: He has until Tuesday next Tuesday at four pm Eastern.

1029
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: If he doesn't report by that deadline, he's ineligible to

1030
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: play for the remainder of the season. I'm still confused

1031
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: whether he has to report and remain uh tethered? Will

1032
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: you remain tethered to the franchise to the Steelers. I

1033
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: see it reported in all different ways, and it's annoying me.

1034
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to know for sure, Gregg, do you

1035
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: know definitively yes? What is it? I I am keeping

1036
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: that to myself. I'm not only in the industry that knows.

1037
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: But it's Smart's great to know. It sounds awesome. But

1038
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: James Connor, mark who it's starts. Your excitement for the

1039
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: starts with James Connery. You said it on face or

1040
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: two thousand yards. So they're gonna be fine with or

1041
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: without love, they'll be fine. Pick this game fun. Is

1042
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: this in Pittsburgh or Carolina? Pittsburgh? All right? The Steelers

1043
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: win this four in a thriller West. I think the

1044
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: Panthers might be a slightly better team, but the home

1045
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: field advantage, I'm gonna stick with the Steelers. Remember the

1046
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: old Desert credo back in the day, uh, Greg, which

1047
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: was always bet on Peyton Manning in primetime. Sure, I

1048
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: mean they have that on billboards up and down. You know, hey,

1049
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: for your college I always bet against Cam Newton and

1050
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: the Panthers on the road in pam time, in prime time.

1051
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: The numbers back it up. He has struggled career wise,

1052
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: uh under the lights. He struggled on the Super Bowl too,

1053
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: but that was remember like the game against the Eagles

1054
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: on either Monday night or Thursday Night football. Remember that

1055
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: awful seaside bar mark where we watched the Giant Panther

1056
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: game where Newton laid an egg. He doesn't always play

1057
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: the best in these settings, and I don't like him

1058
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: on the road in this game. As much as I

1059
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: love Cam and the Panthers this year, I feel like

1060
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: this they're gonna take an l here laid an egg

1061
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: and then enraged us in a with a late game

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Speaker 1: uh touchdown with the Panthers down by multiple tons of points.

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Speaker 1: Any rips this jersey open like you Superman. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you're Superman, you wouldn't be in this position to begin with,

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Speaker 1: same that Andre Brown ran all over. Yes, that's the game.

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Speaker 1: Let me give a score. It's gonna be thirty one

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Speaker 1: to seventeen. Steelers. I think the Steelers are a slightly

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Speaker 1: better team. I think they're they're high. Their ceiling is

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Speaker 1: even higher that they almost I think Roethlisberg can play

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Speaker 1: even better. And the way that the defense has just

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Speaker 1: flipped a switch and suddenly turned into an average to

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Speaker 1: a probably an above average even I think they have

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Speaker 1: a better defense in the panthers. So I think they

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Speaker 1: went at home. Let's say by six points thirty the

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Speaker 1: twenties four, they're going to go six nothing there that

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Speaker 1: would have been next level. Al Right, great, this is

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Speaker 1: an intervention. Help us, help you. I appreciate you saw

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Speaker 1: what I was doing their bridget just making sure everyone knew.

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Speaker 1: Don't pretend like you didn't know the old Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: in prime time credo. Don't pretend you are definitely banging

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Speaker 1: You were banging it every time. That's something that that

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Speaker 1: sounds like something I don't like. I don't like little

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Speaker 1: rules like that. Is the intervention based on the last

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Speaker 1: bridget uh entry that you were on acid? Or is

1085
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Speaker 1: it because you have a serious gambling issue. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're both all of the above just covered. You say

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Speaker 1: you don't like little things like that, but I don't like.

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Speaker 1: But he always covered at home, are always covered in

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Speaker 1: prime time during his heyday. I think stuff like that

1090
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: and the fact that cam Newton has struggled on the

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Speaker 1: road in prime time is totally meaningless. And I think

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00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: I think most I think most people that look at

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Speaker 1: the numb birds would would say that while we're talking

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Speaker 1: to intervention, can I give a TV recommendation. Sure always

1095
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: sunny episode where Frank gets an intervention and thinks it's

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00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: a roasts. The actual show Intervention is also a good show.

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Speaker 1: It's intense, very intense, but I enjoyed watching it, something

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Speaker 1: very nice. And before we go, last chance, Greg, if

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Speaker 1: you want to reveal whether or not Levy on Bell

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Speaker 1: needs to report in order to waive the franchise tag entering,

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Speaker 1: which would then enter him directly into free agency, or

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Speaker 1: does he get hit with a transition tag? Cleared up, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I'm changing the game right now. I'm actually gonna sell

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Speaker 1: this information to the highest bides. So just come at

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00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: me like whether it's Schefter, Rappaport, Glazer hit me up

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Speaker 1: like this. You have multiple issues and that will not

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Speaker 1: change Alright. We'll be back tomorrow night with a recap

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Speaker 1: of that Panther Steelers game, and then we will preview

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Speaker 1: all the week ten matchups to come. This is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hands a signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The

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Speaker 1: Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass. How you feeling, Ricky?

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Speaker 1: Feeling great? Looking better? Like it? I like it? Till

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. M