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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. My name is

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Speaker 1: Lisagar and my guest is Christian van Laar. Hey we rhyme, Christian.

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Speaker 1: I love the topic we were talking about before the break,

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Speaker 1: about fourteen the dimensional realm of fourteen dimensions, and now

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Speaker 1: is this our nature people, something that exists in that realm?

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Speaker 1: Or can we be transformed into nature people when we

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Speaker 1: become one with nature in nature? Can nature heal us? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So the fourteen dimensional realm is the astra plane, which

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Speaker 1: is a different whole plane of consciousness. Okay, dimensions, we're

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Speaker 1: in the physical, we have our seven subplanes here as

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Speaker 1: spirits tend to be in the upper part of that.

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Speaker 1: But some like we mentioned lepre Cons and genius can

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Speaker 1: go a little bit into the astral So there is

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Speaker 1: a difference. So at the time, let me go back

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Speaker 1: to the question you asked earlier. When it started out,

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Speaker 1: I said, they chose to take this long route because

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an adventure, like a roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want that much of a thrill ride. We

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Speaker 1: chose to take the dense route because we wanted to

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Speaker 1: save time, so to speak. We're going to get through

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Speaker 1: it faster and we're gonna have harder lessons if we

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Speaker 1: start a quarterable way around the clock. So we literally

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Speaker 1: chose that, but we can't change our mind. You're on

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Speaker 1: the ride until the roller coaster stops. But there can

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Speaker 1: come a point in time. If you're in the first

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Speaker 1: wave of life, and there's the first wave in humans,

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Speaker 1: the second, third, fourth, or the first wave in angels

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Speaker 1: or nature spirits, it's possible to complete your cycle in

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Speaker 1: the physical, in which case you can come back as

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Speaker 1: another form, so some people can be reincarnated. Angels or

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Speaker 1: nature's spirits usually goes forward. They normally go from angel

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Speaker 1: and nick spirit forward, but it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: that way just you know. So the answer to question

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Speaker 1: is yes. But technically the nature spirits are like Pinocchio

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Speaker 1: and they want to be a real boy. Say they

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Speaker 1: feel they're brave enough to now take the physical route.

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Speaker 1: The nature's spirits want to be in the physical to mension.

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Speaker 1: The physical. Oh, they love it, if you know, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot to tell some stories about that, but

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Speaker 1: that's the first experience that people have when they have

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Speaker 1: nature's spirits in their own households, so to speak. All

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Speaker 1: they do is mimic our life. They want to do

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Speaker 1: the same thing as we do. It's a little comical

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Speaker 1: to watch it because they can't perfect it the way

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Speaker 1: we do, but they want to do They if you're

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Speaker 1: a doctor, they want to be a doctor. See if

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Speaker 1: you're driving a car, they want to drive a car.

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Speaker 1: So they want the experiences. But imagine a very young child,

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Speaker 1: you know, seven or eight nine, trying to mimic mommy

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Speaker 1: and daddy that type of thing, and they tend to

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Speaker 1: stay in that state most of your life, that you'll

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Speaker 1: always experience them that way because they're pursuing it slower.

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Speaker 1: But what about animals that you've loved that have crossed over?

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Speaker 1: Can they become nature spirits? I have to do it

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Speaker 1: sort of in the middle here, so we don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: always jump from the nature kingdom or angelic kingdom into humans.

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Speaker 1: We can go through the other kingdoms as well, like

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Speaker 1: plants in animals same so they can choose, and usually

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Speaker 1: we go through minerals too, So we normally go through

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Speaker 1: the kingdoms of life before we get to our kingdom

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Speaker 1: of human life. So animals are actually going to eventually

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Speaker 1: become humans. Oh as they evolve, that's right, when they're ready,

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Speaker 1: and they have the kind of consciousness where they can

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Speaker 1: fit into the physical realm without being offraid, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: So everything spiritual is fitted to your level of consciousness,

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Speaker 1: and there's so much to it that we have to

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Speaker 1: kind of take it in a long but slow steps.

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Speaker 1: See it's a gradient. And so when I said the

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Speaker 1: mean they've already taken all of our existence and they're

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Speaker 1: only a quarterway around the clock, so to speak. Same. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. So a friend of mine just lost her

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Speaker 1: horse of thirty years, and this horse's names Big Boy.

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Speaker 1: Could that spirit of that horse, since he was with

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Speaker 1: her for so long, evolve or hang out with her? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it involves something different here. So life other than humans

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Speaker 1: between the set of them, they're sharing experiences to help

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Speaker 1: me evolve. Where humans tend to be singularly sold we've

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Speaker 1: stories about witches and they're familiars. That's a good example, right,

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Speaker 1: her dog just passed a couple of weeks prior. Right,

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Speaker 1: so the dog and the horse could be shared souls. Well,

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Speaker 1: it usually is an indication, Lisa, that those particular animals

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Speaker 1: They've already gotten out of it what they can, and

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Speaker 1: so they will probably be first in line to be human,

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Speaker 1: and they'll follow directly in our footsteps. I know, the

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Speaker 1: resort of learning from us. Say, oh, it's very healing,

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Speaker 1: very healing to have this, you know, consciousness conversation of

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Speaker 1: this evolution of beings. The soul is full of frequency,

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Speaker 1: and that's a cosmogeny word that used earlier. Cosmogony would

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Speaker 1: be a better way to say that, not just stars.

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Speaker 1: It's all of consciousness. There's so many endless stages. Even

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Speaker 1: if you look at the age of the universe. Of

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Speaker 1: course that applied to all life, including us. We were

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Speaker 1: some billion years. But Cosmogany says, well, let's go back

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Speaker 1: at trillion years before there was even a physical plane

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Speaker 1: would be the source of dragons for example. Same so

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Speaker 1: it took a lot just to get here. We are

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Speaker 1: considered part of a fall where we came from some

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Speaker 1: higher level of consciousness. We kept falling and falling and falling.

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Speaker 1: There would have been one point where heaven was all

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Speaker 1: would eventually been a time when everything was in the

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Speaker 1: ouster plane and that was it, and then there was

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Speaker 1: a fall into the physical plane, which is what most

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Speaker 1: So we chose to come here because we actually wanted

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Speaker 1: the experiences so that we could be stronger and get

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Speaker 1: it and got this far, and two thousand and twelve

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Speaker 1: Although you could choose not to right, you can always

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Speaker 1: make a mistake, but we now know that we can

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Speaker 1: go on. And that's why in religious texts they have

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Speaker 1: passages and God was to spleeased with man and wipe

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Speaker 1: it this time. Is the point, right, And now we're

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Speaker 1: willing for it to change dramatically, and then we'll start

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Speaker 1: taking on many of those abilities of the astro plane

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Speaker 1: as part of our ascension process, so to speak, which

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Speaker 1: we'll take a very long time, but we should shed

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Speaker 1: density and gain lightness. Now. The nature spirits that you

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Speaker 1: were mentioned, you mentioned quite a few of them. Like fairies, gnomes, elves,

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Speaker 1: they're individualized in their class. Like gnomes, bring out the

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Speaker 1: inner child on us and they're a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: That's why so many people like them. And they're mean

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Speaker 1: But they have a true nature connection literally our physical nature.

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Speaker 1: They're drawn to that and healing, and they're of the

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Speaker 1: So if I relate to gnomes, it does not mean

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Speaker 1: I can automatically relate to fairies. Now, elves are a

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Speaker 1: broken earrings or you're afraid belt, or even your computer.

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Speaker 1: But again they will try to restore it to an

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Speaker 1: They have little traits and characteristics. It'll be the same

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