WEBVTT - Rico Nasty 0:00:15.476 --> 0:00:20.956 Pushkin. Hey, this is justin Richmond from the Broken Record podcast. 0:00:21.276 --> 0:00:23.436 Join me this June for a live taping of Broken 0:00:23.476 --> 0:00:26.316 Record at the Tribeca Festival. We're all bee in conversation 0:00:26.476 --> 0:00:29.356 with Infinity Song, a New York based soft rock band 0:00:29.356 --> 0:00:31.996 comprised of four siblings who will also be doing a 0:00:32.036 --> 0:00:34.596 couple of songs for us. You'll hear the artists and 0:00:34.636 --> 0:00:38.956 a career spanning conversation about their inspirations and dynamic styles. 0:00:39.556 --> 0:00:41.916 We'll be at the SVA Theater on June twelve at 0:00:41.956 --> 0:00:45.876 eight thirty pm. Defund tickets. Visit tribecafilm dot com slash 0:00:45.916 --> 0:00:50.756 Broken Record all lowercase. That's tribecafilm dot com slash Broken Record. 0:00:50.956 --> 0:00:55.236 Hope to see there. Rico Nasty is a genre defying 0:00:55.316 --> 0:00:59.476 force and contemporary hip hop known for hurrah unapologetic style 0:00:59.636 --> 0:01:03.556 and fearless experimentation. Rico started releasing mixtapes while still in 0:01:03.596 --> 0:01:06.076 high school in Maryland, with early tracks like I Carly 0:01:06.156 --> 0:01:10.836 and Hey Arnold Catching Fire Online. You're dropping five mixtapes independently. 0:01:10.916 --> 0:01:13.876 She signed with Atlantic Records in twenty eighteen and introduced 0:01:13.876 --> 0:01:17.316 the world to her signature Sugar Trap Sound, a blend 0:01:17.316 --> 0:01:20.876 of aggressive new metal energy and trap production on breakout 0:01:20.876 --> 0:01:24.756 tracks like Smack a Bitch and Rage. Today, Leo Rose 0:01:24.796 --> 0:01:26.756 sits down with Rico as she prepares to release her 0:01:26.796 --> 0:01:29.796 fourth studio album Lethal. They dive into everything from the 0:01:29.796 --> 0:01:32.516 beautiful chaos of female heavy mosh pits at her shows, 0:01:32.836 --> 0:01:34.676 what it was like to suddenly come into lots of 0:01:34.716 --> 0:01:37.556 money as a teenager, to how she landed her first 0:01:37.596 --> 0:01:40.036 acting role in the upcoming A twenty four Apple TV 0:01:40.196 --> 0:01:43.676 series Margo Scott Troubles. To see the full video version 0:01:43.676 --> 0:01:46.316 of this interview, head over to YouTube dot com slash 0:01:46.356 --> 0:01:57.716 Broken Record Podcast. This is Broken Record, real musicians, real conversations. 0:01:59.476 --> 0:02:01.756 Now here's Leah Rose with Rico Nasty. 0:02:03.476 --> 0:02:04.676 So let's talk Lethal. 0:02:05.916 --> 0:02:06.236 Yes. 0:02:06.396 --> 0:02:08.756 I just saw your new video on the low. Came 0:02:08.756 --> 0:02:12.756 out to yeah, and it's so different. So when I 0:02:12.796 --> 0:02:17.636 heard the song, I pictured baby pink and like you 0:02:17.716 --> 0:02:20.396 in like a candy store or something like really sweet 0:02:20.396 --> 0:02:23.156 and girly. And then I see the video and it's 0:02:23.196 --> 0:02:27.796 you like twerking in a truck bed in a junk yard, 0:02:27.876 --> 0:02:30.596 and I'm like, oh, this is different. 0:02:31.436 --> 0:02:33.116 So how did you come up with a visual? How 0:02:33.116 --> 0:02:34.236 does that usually come to you? 0:02:34.636 --> 0:02:36.876 I just wanted to still keep my grunge. 0:02:37.356 --> 0:02:40.556 Like I think the overall inspiration was like horror movie vibes, 0:02:41.756 --> 0:02:49.476 like still embodying like this winter type of energy, like 0:02:49.596 --> 0:02:53.596 Winter Ringleader type of energy. But I feel like I 0:02:53.636 --> 0:02:56.196 watch a lot of movies, so I'm always like, oh, 0:02:56.276 --> 0:02:57.036 I want to do that. 0:02:57.196 --> 0:02:58.996 This shot is cool, this is fire. 0:03:01.036 --> 0:03:03.396 But yeah, shout out to the director on that, because 0:03:03.716 --> 0:03:08.516 what actually happened is I had sent one treatment and 0:03:08.596 --> 0:03:11.636 he and I broke it up into so many different 0:03:11.676 --> 0:03:14.236 ideas that like, there's so much more to come. I'm 0:03:14.276 --> 0:03:16.956 so excited to drop more visuals because everyone's so excited 0:03:16.956 --> 0:03:19.516 about about this one. Obviously this one is a lot 0:03:19.556 --> 0:03:23.116 more different than the last one, and it'll be like that, 0:03:23.156 --> 0:03:27.836 like moving forward. I just really like, yeah, i feel 0:03:27.836 --> 0:03:30.036 like I'm just taking all the risks and just doing 0:03:30.076 --> 0:03:32.276 what I really want to do and just try my 0:03:32.356 --> 0:03:34.436 best to like still maintain. 0:03:35.516 --> 0:03:37.796 My authenticity and like the things. 0:03:37.516 --> 0:03:40.556 That I enjoy, because I feel like I don't really 0:03:40.596 --> 0:03:42.516 like baby pink stuff. 0:03:42.236 --> 0:03:42.596 You know. 0:03:42.836 --> 0:03:44.876 I know it's very much not you, but I felt 0:03:44.876 --> 0:03:46.316 like this song is a little different. 0:03:46.916 --> 0:03:48.756 Yeah, And that's how I felt too. 0:03:48.796 --> 0:03:51.716 I was like, oh my god, like, well, it could 0:03:51.796 --> 0:03:55.476 still be a softer side, it could fin inside, but 0:03:55.636 --> 0:03:59.196 like in my own way, but like, yeah, that song 0:03:59.276 --> 0:04:05.716 definitely it gives pink, It gives bubbly cuteesy yeah, like 0:04:05.836 --> 0:04:07.596 soft furry yes. 0:04:07.756 --> 0:04:08.956 Oh soffer. 0:04:10.396 --> 0:04:12.676 So when you say you sent a treatment, what is that? 0:04:12.836 --> 0:04:15.596 Is that like you writing out what you see in 0:04:15.636 --> 0:04:16.236 your mind? 0:04:16.436 --> 0:04:18.716 Is it like different shots? Like what is a treatment? 0:04:19.316 --> 0:04:19.596 Yeah? 0:04:19.636 --> 0:04:25.516 So a treatment is basically a shot list of everything 0:04:25.516 --> 0:04:28.316 that you're trying to accomplish in the video. 0:04:28.476 --> 0:04:29.916 So you know, some. 0:04:29.796 --> 0:04:33.716 People follow more like mood boards, but I think mood 0:04:33.716 --> 0:04:38.076 boards kind of like limit creativity. 0:04:37.916 --> 0:04:39.836 Because it's too like spot on. 0:04:40.476 --> 0:04:40.876 Yeah, so. 0:04:42.476 --> 0:04:44.156 The treatment will normally be like. 0:04:45.676 --> 0:04:48.636 References of the way that I want things shot at 0:04:48.676 --> 0:04:51.716 certain angles and maybe the lighting some of like the 0:04:51.756 --> 0:04:53.316 b roll shots that I want to get. 0:04:53.396 --> 0:04:56.716 So yeah, like I use like videos that I like. 0:04:57.116 --> 0:05:01.396 Do you remember any references like movies or other videos. 0:05:02.196 --> 0:05:06.076 We definitely referenced like some old horror movie films on 0:05:06.116 --> 0:05:10.356 the coloring, like in the beginning seen with the car, 0:05:10.716 --> 0:05:13.956 just like the mild saturation but still keeping like those 0:05:14.036 --> 0:05:16.916 cool tones. That was like something that I've seen like 0:05:16.956 --> 0:05:19.236 in rob zombie films. So I remember that kind of 0:05:19.276 --> 0:05:20.996 being a part of like the treatment. 0:05:21.276 --> 0:05:26.196 Like, so, yeah, it's not always other music videos. 0:05:26.476 --> 0:05:30.796 Yeah, it's sometimes it's like actual films and things that 0:05:30.836 --> 0:05:32.956 I've just seen and I'm like, whoa, I really love this. 0:05:33.156 --> 0:05:38.916 Like another one is AFX twin Yeah, window lickor love 0:05:39.116 --> 0:05:41.716 the scene where it's like he does a close up 0:05:41.756 --> 0:05:47.116 of the limousine and the tire rim had his logo 0:05:47.196 --> 0:05:49.676 on it. I was like, last minute, I'm like, oh, 0:05:49.716 --> 0:05:52.796 we need a lethal flag. We need something that's in 0:05:52.796 --> 0:05:54.196 in in the shots. 0:05:54.196 --> 0:05:56.636 So I thought about it. Yeah, sense of like at. 0:05:56.476 --> 0:05:59.756 The shows, like and people who are doing like the 0:05:59.836 --> 0:06:03.556 marsh pits and stuff. I think it's like there's like 0:06:03.596 --> 0:06:05.636 a language that could come with it, Like the leader 0:06:05.716 --> 0:06:08.516 of the pit could have, you know, the flag, the 0:06:08.556 --> 0:06:10.796 person who's come into the show. It's ready to function up. 0:06:10.796 --> 0:06:14.476 You have your flag, and you keep your flag up 0:06:14.956 --> 0:06:15.516 no matter what. 0:06:15.876 --> 0:06:17.676 Do people usually bring flags to the pit. 0:06:18.636 --> 0:06:20.276 They bring all types of shit to the pit. 0:06:22.996 --> 0:06:24.356 It's some so though I don't even know how the 0:06:24.396 --> 0:06:27.756 fuck they're getting into, but yeah, they bring a lot 0:06:27.756 --> 0:06:28.476 of shit to the pit. 0:06:30.116 --> 0:06:32.236 It's so crazy, Like I feel like your shows are 0:06:32.276 --> 0:06:34.956 the first time I've seen women or just girls in 0:06:34.996 --> 0:06:35.316 a pit. 0:06:36.276 --> 0:06:40.596 Yeah, in those earlier days, it was really really crazy 0:06:40.636 --> 0:06:44.316 watching everybody just like get their shit off their chests. 0:06:44.476 --> 0:06:47.396 Yes, we don't really get to do that. Yeah. 0:06:47.436 --> 0:06:49.556 And I feel like there's a misconception about it too, 0:06:49.556 --> 0:06:51.916 because I feel like people think that it is just 0:06:51.956 --> 0:06:54.156 people like fucking each other up, but it's actually like 0:06:54.196 --> 0:06:56.076 such a community it is. 0:06:56.276 --> 0:06:59.476 I mean, I feel like there's some there's a sense 0:06:59.516 --> 0:07:03.316 of like they're kind of like synchronized in some in 0:07:03.356 --> 0:07:06.556 some of the pits, it's not always beating each other up. 0:07:06.636 --> 0:07:09.076 Sometimes it's just like having your arms around your front 0:07:09.396 --> 0:07:13.076 and you're jumping at the same time and you're just 0:07:13.156 --> 0:07:15.476 feeling it and it's like twenty of you guys that 0:07:15.556 --> 0:07:16.196 could be a pet. 0:07:16.756 --> 0:07:17.796 Everyone kind of like. 0:07:19.196 --> 0:07:22.116 Just rapping the lyrics and feeling that shit with their 0:07:22.156 --> 0:07:23.116 whole hearted chest. 0:07:23.276 --> 0:07:25.276 And I think like where that comes from. 0:07:25.356 --> 0:07:27.876 It is just like so much anger having to be 0:07:27.956 --> 0:07:32.156 repressed on an everyday basis. Like I feel like, unfortunately 0:07:32.316 --> 0:07:35.396 it's okay for men to lash out, Like, you know, 0:07:36.236 --> 0:07:40.396 it's always been somewhat accepted in a symbol of power 0:07:40.556 --> 0:07:43.756 for a man to lash out and have no repercussions 0:07:43.796 --> 0:07:48.516 for their actions, but with women, it's always consequences for 0:07:48.596 --> 0:07:52.436 our actions. And I just feel like when we were 0:07:52.476 --> 0:07:55.916 doing that, I feel like it was kind of like 0:07:56.516 --> 0:07:59.396 we would have people at the shows trying to split 0:07:59.396 --> 0:07:59.996 the pit up. 0:08:00.236 --> 0:08:02.796 Y'all can't be doing this, don't inside a pit. 0:08:02.956 --> 0:08:04.516 But it's like, well, when else are we going to 0:08:04.596 --> 0:08:06.996 get to do this and not be looked at it's crazy, 0:08:07.596 --> 0:08:10.556 or not have a consequence, or not get kicked out 0:08:10.556 --> 0:08:15.836 of something or get thrown in jail or actual fight breakout. 0:08:15.916 --> 0:08:19.556 It's like, where is the space to just be a 0:08:19.676 --> 0:08:23.236 woman and want to fuck somebody up. 0:08:23.796 --> 0:08:26.996 And not care what you look like, get sweaty, like 0:08:27.076 --> 0:08:29.316 not have your makeup or everything have to be the 0:08:29.356 --> 0:08:31.076 same as when you walked into a venue. 0:08:31.196 --> 0:08:32.916 Like it just it's such a release. 0:08:33.836 --> 0:08:37.116 Yeah, And I love that part too because I go 0:08:37.196 --> 0:08:39.116 through the same thing on the stage, like I don't 0:08:39.116 --> 0:08:40.836 look the same when I come out and when I 0:08:40.916 --> 0:08:45.436 go backstage like I'm drenched in fucking sweat and we 0:08:45.556 --> 0:08:48.636 done have a time, And I just, yeah, I love 0:08:48.716 --> 0:08:50.556 that and I live for that. And that's not pretty, 0:08:51.036 --> 0:08:52.756 That's not I don't think that's meant to be pretty. 0:08:52.876 --> 0:08:54.316 And I appreciate that. 0:08:54.516 --> 0:08:57.556 I appreciate the fact that they allow me that space 0:08:57.676 --> 0:09:01.076 to spend money on a nice outfit just to come 0:09:01.156 --> 0:09:01.956 getting Fu Sun. 0:09:03.156 --> 0:09:04.636 Yeah, that's incredible. 0:09:05.516 --> 0:09:08.356 Have you ever wanted to do like a make a 0:09:08.516 --> 0:09:11.996 major left turn and try a whole different genre or 0:09:12.116 --> 0:09:15.636 something new for you that would be unexpected? But you're 0:09:15.716 --> 0:09:18.076 just like, I don't think it's the right time, or 0:09:18.156 --> 0:09:22.676 it's too early or whatever, Like, is there any type 0:09:22.716 --> 0:09:26.156 of music that is completely different from what you've already 0:09:26.156 --> 0:09:26.676 put out there? 0:09:28.676 --> 0:09:32.956 Hm? I think like me being you know, the smack 0:09:32.996 --> 0:09:33.636 of bitch Girl. 0:09:33.796 --> 0:09:37.116 I'm very rah And I think that when you think 0:09:37.236 --> 0:09:40.836 Rico Nasci and you think rock music, it's always been 0:09:41.116 --> 0:09:44.276 scream Oh, it's always been metal. It's always been new metal, 0:09:44.396 --> 0:09:46.836 hip hop metal. It's always been like that sense of 0:09:46.956 --> 0:09:50.436 like angst and growl with it. But I have two 0:09:50.556 --> 0:09:54.476 songs on this album that don't have that. It's rock music, though, 0:09:54.556 --> 0:09:57.516 and it's more so influenced by the rock music that 0:09:57.596 --> 0:10:01.636 I actually listen to. Like, it's more so influenced by like, 0:10:02.276 --> 0:10:07.316 you know, like beachy rock or like just more a calm, 0:10:07.596 --> 0:10:08.316 calm side. 0:10:08.636 --> 0:10:09.516 Yes, I see. 0:10:09.796 --> 0:10:12.476 I'm like so happy that people are receiving on the 0:10:12.556 --> 0:10:14.316 low the way that they are because on the low 0:10:14.436 --> 0:10:15.036 is very girly. 0:10:15.236 --> 0:10:15.956 You're gonna get like. 0:10:15.956 --> 0:10:18.836 Another vulnerable side of me with these rock songs that's 0:10:19.036 --> 0:10:25.396 very very feminine, very girly, but also very rico. And 0:10:25.516 --> 0:10:27.996 I'm like really excited for people to hear those because 0:10:28.036 --> 0:10:32.596 I don't think. I don't think people thought I could 0:10:32.596 --> 0:10:33.316 make a song like that. 0:10:33.716 --> 0:10:34.396 Yes, is that? 0:10:34.636 --> 0:10:37.476 Do you think you getting into the like the beachy 0:10:37.596 --> 0:10:40.396 rock or the more mellow side of things, like what 0:10:40.556 --> 0:10:44.716 you actually listen to? Is that you getting older? 0:10:44.956 --> 0:10:45.476 Do you think? 0:10:45.796 --> 0:10:47.516 Is that just where you're at in your life? Like 0:10:47.596 --> 0:10:49.836 where have you always listened to sort of like more 0:10:49.916 --> 0:10:50.556 mellow stuff? 0:10:51.396 --> 0:10:51.636 Yeah? 0:10:51.676 --> 0:10:56.116 I always listened to more mellow stuff really. Yeah, Like 0:10:56.556 --> 0:11:02.156 literally my favorite band is like Care for Cutie, Like 0:11:03.076 --> 0:11:08.596 I've always liked the softer the radio Heads. They's the 0:11:08.716 --> 0:11:10.996 drum shout out to the drums because I got to 0:11:11.036 --> 0:11:14.076 work with him, so like you know, like I've I 0:11:14.716 --> 0:11:17.596 really like that side, and I just feel like, you know, 0:11:18.156 --> 0:11:21.316 my character is so rash coming out the gate swinging 0:11:21.996 --> 0:11:24.036 that I don't think I got to show that side 0:11:24.196 --> 0:11:27.156 or show that I was even interested in showing that side. 0:11:27.236 --> 0:11:29.716 So yeah, I'm really like, I'm really excited. 0:11:29.756 --> 0:11:33.036 But to say it's like, yeah, I'm growing up, But 0:11:33.156 --> 0:11:36.756 I also feel like I am pleasing my inner child 0:11:36.916 --> 0:11:39.876 because there's still songs on there. Son of a Gun, 0:11:41.436 --> 0:11:44.676 Smoke Break, There's some songs on there that you just 0:11:44.876 --> 0:11:47.556 know like these are these are gonna be classic cult 0:11:47.836 --> 0:11:50.236 Rick on Nasty records that will be played at shows, 0:11:50.556 --> 0:11:52.956 that will get the party started, like yea, those are 0:11:52.996 --> 0:11:55.636 the ones that I'm kind of just like, I'm never 0:11:55.716 --> 0:11:56.636 gonna stop making those. 0:11:56.676 --> 0:11:59.676 I'll always be me. But there's something that I've done 0:11:59.716 --> 0:12:00.436 in all my projects. 0:12:00.476 --> 0:12:02.556 It's like there's there's always been like two or three, 0:12:03.436 --> 0:12:05.796 three or four that are like, hmm, what's this. This 0:12:05.956 --> 0:12:08.076 is a little bit, this is different, this is cool, 0:12:08.556 --> 0:12:11.796 and I just like showing people like, yeah, there isn't 0:12:11.796 --> 0:12:13.876 a limit to music. I'm not just a rapper. I 0:12:13.916 --> 0:12:15.716 feel like I'm at this point, I'm a real, like, 0:12:16.156 --> 0:12:16.956 real deal artist. 0:12:16.996 --> 0:12:19.876 Where we've been, we've been jumped out of that. 0:12:20.516 --> 0:12:24.196 And I do appreciate all of my fans that are 0:12:24.276 --> 0:12:26.156 here because I do my rap music and there is 0:12:26.276 --> 0:12:28.276 rap music on this project. Like I don't want people 0:12:28.276 --> 0:12:31.556 to think, oh, she's just doing rock or softer songs. 0:12:32.156 --> 0:12:35.716 No, Like it's still intense. It's a ride. I just 0:12:35.796 --> 0:12:37.756 want people to yeah, I didn't have fun. 0:12:38.356 --> 0:12:41.276 How do you know if something is catchy? 0:12:41.436 --> 0:12:43.916 Like when you're in the studio and you're recording something, 0:12:44.476 --> 0:12:46.636 Cause I feel like the first two singles are so catchy, 0:12:46.876 --> 0:12:48.956 Like do you have to listen to something a hundred 0:12:49.036 --> 0:12:51.236 times before you know? Like some part of the song, 0:12:51.396 --> 0:12:54.556 like whether it's a riff or the hook, something's gonna 0:12:54.636 --> 0:12:56.836 like embed itself in your mind. 0:12:57.036 --> 0:12:58.556 Like how do you know? Do you play it out 0:12:58.676 --> 0:12:59.516 somewhere like. 0:13:00.036 --> 0:13:01.716 The kids tell you if it's catchy. 0:13:02.316 --> 0:13:03.996 So you put it out online. 0:13:04.276 --> 0:13:06.676 I don't even put it out online. I play it 0:13:06.756 --> 0:13:09.556 for my son. I send it to my little cousins. 0:13:09.996 --> 0:13:14.956 I just I rely on younger people. 0:13:15.636 --> 0:13:16.636 Are they honest with you? 0:13:17.116 --> 0:13:18.116 Always? Always? 0:13:18.276 --> 0:13:19.596 What did they say? If they don't like it? 0:13:20.756 --> 0:13:25.236 They just don't respond, super jen Z, They just don't respond. 0:13:25.676 --> 0:13:26.716 Does it hurt your feelings? 0:13:27.156 --> 0:13:27.196 No? 0:13:27.956 --> 0:13:30.756 I love it if you know what's funny? 0:13:30.876 --> 0:13:35.116 Like, sometimes I just be wanting, Like when I make music, 0:13:35.236 --> 0:13:37.556 I swear, I just be wanting to like welcome to 0:13:37.596 --> 0:13:39.236 a random person and be like can you listen to 0:13:39.276 --> 0:13:40.036 this real quick enough. 0:13:40.396 --> 0:13:44.076 Yes, like, yeah, I'm not scared of that. 0:13:44.316 --> 0:13:46.756 Like I'm like, you like this, come here, you look 0:13:46.796 --> 0:13:48.596 like you go like this Like I don't really, I 0:13:48.636 --> 0:13:50.036 don't care about that type of stuff. 0:13:50.036 --> 0:13:53.356 But yeah, the lot on the kids rely on my friends. 0:13:53.476 --> 0:13:55.076 My friends will tell me if something is not My 0:13:55.156 --> 0:13:57.556 friends will tell me halfway through the song if they don't. 0:13:58.316 --> 0:14:00.756 Oh, but sometimes you need but sometimes you need to 0:14:00.836 --> 0:14:03.916 hear a song like eight times before, you know. I 0:14:04.076 --> 0:14:06.356 always have that experience where I listen to something, I'm like, 0:14:06.516 --> 0:14:09.076 I don't like this, but then if I hear it enough, 0:14:09.756 --> 0:14:11.756 you might hear something different or you might. 0:14:11.716 --> 0:14:19.036 Catch I think, and this could just be my artist take. 0:14:19.756 --> 0:14:25.076 I think that those two songs are catchy because the 0:14:25.556 --> 0:14:30.956 hooks were made before the verses, so normally I feel 0:14:30.996 --> 0:14:33.636 like that plays a really big part. Spending a lot 0:14:33.716 --> 0:14:37.836 of time on the hook and hearing it over. 0:14:37.716 --> 0:14:38.316 And over again. 0:14:38.356 --> 0:14:40.636 And it's not something that I just pulled out of 0:14:40.676 --> 0:14:44.076 the verse and repeated. It's like, yes, we worked on it. 0:14:44.276 --> 0:14:47.396 We worked on melodies, we worked on bridges, we worked 0:14:47.476 --> 0:14:52.476 on tweaking shit and different layers and how can we 0:14:52.596 --> 0:14:55.116 make especially for teeth sucker. How can we make the 0:14:55.236 --> 0:15:00.156 vocals and the guitar collaborate in a sense and on 0:15:00.516 --> 0:15:01.436 the low how can we. 0:15:03.196 --> 0:15:07.276 Repeat this hook but not make them get tired of it? 0:15:07.996 --> 0:15:08.996 And what is it? 0:15:09.796 --> 0:15:12.956 What's the bounce that we're feeling? How do we vocalize that? 0:15:13.116 --> 0:15:15.916 And it's like when they were producing the beat and 0:15:16.036 --> 0:15:20.116 we were doing the writing for the verse, the melody 0:15:20.356 --> 0:15:25.476 was uh, and then it wound up just being used. 0:15:26.756 --> 0:15:29.276 On the on the chorus. So I don't know. 0:15:29.756 --> 0:15:31.996 I think that that could play a huge part. Actually, 0:15:32.036 --> 0:15:34.796 it will take time on the hooks and a kind 0:15:34.836 --> 0:15:35.156 of like. 0:15:36.876 --> 0:15:37.676 Pop way. 0:15:38.356 --> 0:15:40.836 Yeah, So what is the hardest part for you? Like, 0:15:42.276 --> 0:15:44.716 is it hard for you to come up with melodies? 0:15:44.876 --> 0:15:46.676 Is it hard for you to fill in the lyrics? 0:15:46.996 --> 0:15:49.036 Is it hard for you to think of the overall 0:15:49.276 --> 0:15:52.196 vision for the song? Like, what's the most difficult part. 0:15:52.556 --> 0:15:56.316 The most difficult part, bro, is narrowing down the ideas. 0:15:57.076 --> 0:15:58.556 That's wow, Well that's good. 0:15:58.836 --> 0:16:01.676 That's a good problem, yeah, because it just feels like 0:16:01.876 --> 0:16:05.236 I'd be wanting to talk about everything all at once, 0:16:05.796 --> 0:16:09.516 and sometimes a song is supposed to be about thing, 0:16:09.796 --> 0:16:13.196 so handling and honing in on that one thing, thinking 0:16:13.276 --> 0:16:17.356 of bars and metaphors and things that have happened in 0:16:17.436 --> 0:16:20.356 my life to relate to this one thing and then 0:16:21.756 --> 0:16:22.916 making it sound cool. 0:16:23.636 --> 0:16:26.076 Yeah, that would be hard making it sound cool. 0:16:26.516 --> 0:16:29.716 Yeah, that is the hardest part too, making it sound cool, 0:16:29.756 --> 0:16:31.996 because I feel like I take a lot of risks 0:16:32.156 --> 0:16:36.116 vocally and sometimes like when I'm rapping, like I don't 0:16:36.196 --> 0:16:40.996 really I just I stretch words and I do stuff like, 0:16:41.436 --> 0:16:44.316 you know, just just to be funny, and yes, just 0:16:44.436 --> 0:16:46.916 help to make it sound I don't know, whatever the 0:16:46.996 --> 0:16:48.116 fuck Have you. 0:16:48.116 --> 0:16:50.076 Ever thought that something was cool and then someone told 0:16:50.116 --> 0:16:50.796 you it was corny? 0:16:52.396 --> 0:16:56.516 Yeah? For sure, for sure, for sure, and like the 0:16:56.596 --> 0:17:01.636 whole first five years of my career, that would be. 0:17:01.716 --> 0:17:04.196 Hard because you're like, no, like what if you're pushing 0:17:04.236 --> 0:17:06.396 a limit and it's something people haven't heard yet, but 0:17:07.596 --> 0:17:09.516 someone's like closed minded and they don't know. 0:17:10.516 --> 0:17:10.756 I know. 0:17:10.956 --> 0:17:12.476 I kind of just feel like I've always been a 0:17:12.596 --> 0:17:17.636 niche thing. I've never considered myself a steak dinner. I'm 0:17:17.716 --> 0:17:19.956 a very acquired taste. I'm not something you're gonna find 0:17:19.996 --> 0:17:22.956 that outback steakhouse. Like, yeah, I'm not like a fucking 0:17:23.156 --> 0:17:26.396 blooming onion, Like I'm not like, you know, I'm like, 0:17:26.636 --> 0:17:30.636 fucking what am I? I'm like a like a baja 0:17:30.796 --> 0:17:34.436 taco like kind like the really really good fry fish 0:17:34.476 --> 0:17:36.436 baja tacos. Like you got to go to a steak 0:17:36.476 --> 0:17:39.636 shop exactly, you have to go to a special spot. 0:17:39.676 --> 0:17:42.156 It's a mom and pop shop. Not everybody knows about it, 0:17:42.276 --> 0:17:44.996 but it tastes good every time. And I'm okay with that. 0:17:45.156 --> 0:17:46.796 Like I'm okay with not being McDonald's. 0:17:46.836 --> 0:17:47.796 I don't want to be McDonald's. 0:17:48.156 --> 0:17:52.356 So I definitely like pride myself on being niche and 0:17:52.476 --> 0:17:56.476 being unliked in some spaces, Like that's totally fine with me. 0:17:56.876 --> 0:17:58.716 That's cool. I feel like that takes courage. 0:17:58.836 --> 0:18:01.916 Like were you like that growing up? Did you care 0:18:02.236 --> 0:18:04.636 if people like did you care about fitting in? And 0:18:04.716 --> 0:18:06.756 did you care about what people thought about you? 0:18:07.196 --> 0:18:08.916 I think I cared too much. I think I cared 0:18:08.956 --> 0:18:11.716 so much that I cared enough for the rest of 0:18:11.796 --> 0:18:12.236 my life. 0:18:13.116 --> 0:18:13.516 Oh huh. 0:18:13.836 --> 0:18:15.716 Yeah. And then once I hit eighteen, I was like, wait, 0:18:15.796 --> 0:18:16.516 I don't have to care. 0:18:17.796 --> 0:18:18.516 But then. 0:18:19.836 --> 0:18:22.516 Let's talk about that because being eighteen and getting like 0:18:22.596 --> 0:18:25.636 a shit ton of money kind of like thrown at you. Yeah, 0:18:25.956 --> 0:18:28.196 it's kind of hard to decipher what you care and 0:18:28.276 --> 0:18:29.996 don't care about and it just kind of comes off 0:18:30.036 --> 0:18:31.676 as like all over the place. 0:18:32.436 --> 0:18:34.316 Okay, wait, so you mean like you can't say no 0:18:34.516 --> 0:18:35.396 to the money or. 0:18:36.196 --> 0:18:37.636 You just don't know what to say no to. 0:18:38.196 --> 0:18:42.796 Everything is so new and invigorating, and so it's so exciting. 0:18:42.876 --> 0:18:44.796 It's like I'm not gonna say no. Why would I 0:18:44.836 --> 0:18:45.076 say no? 0:18:45.596 --> 0:18:46.356 And then the older that you. 0:18:46.396 --> 0:18:50.396 Get, you realize how powerful the word no is and 0:18:50.716 --> 0:18:53.076 now how much it could have protected you. The older 0:18:53.116 --> 0:18:56.116 that you get, but you are so happy to even 0:18:56.156 --> 0:18:58.396 be in the space that you're just like I'm going 0:18:58.436 --> 0:19:02.156 to say yes, why would I say no? And yeah, 0:19:02.196 --> 0:19:04.276 you just get older and realize I could have said 0:19:04.316 --> 0:19:06.196 no to that, and you just got to like bet 0:19:06.236 --> 0:19:08.036 on yourself. And I think that's where I am the 0:19:08.076 --> 0:19:10.756 older that I've gotten, Like, yeah, we've I just feel 0:19:10.796 --> 0:19:15.076 like I've really learned how to just trust the decisions 0:19:15.116 --> 0:19:18.716 that I'm making and just trust like, look, I don't know, 0:19:18.956 --> 0:19:21.076 I don't know what I'm doing. None of us know 0:19:21.436 --> 0:19:23.476 exactly what we're doing, but I'm doing it and I'm 0:19:23.516 --> 0:19:27.156 having a fun time. And you can save the judgment 0:19:27.356 --> 0:19:31.916 for like people who genuinely like want feedback like. 0:19:32.156 --> 0:19:34.716 Please like I but I don't know. 0:19:36.156 --> 0:19:38.276 We'll be back with more from Rico Nasty and Lea 0:19:38.396 --> 0:19:39.636 Rose after the break. 0:19:43.876 --> 0:19:46.116 So when you were eighteen and you started getting checks 0:19:46.156 --> 0:19:48.556 and money thrown at you, was it from for shows? 0:19:48.756 --> 0:19:52.356 Like what was the bulk of the money opportunities coming from? 0:19:52.796 --> 0:19:56.556 So I think like I started rapping and then yeah, 0:19:56.916 --> 0:20:01.396 shows were a huge part, and then I started getting 0:20:03.676 --> 0:20:10.236 record label offers, and then you go into publish deals. 0:20:10.876 --> 0:20:15.356 Then you going into like you're just like entering big 0:20:15.676 --> 0:20:21.636 money conversations, like conversations that it's like, let's take a second, 0:20:21.756 --> 0:20:22.876 let's let's read this over. 0:20:23.116 --> 0:20:23.796