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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the Guide.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club law La Rosa is here

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Speaker 1: as well, and we got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, Lizzen that's up.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 3: How you feel?

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Speaker 4: I feel good, I'm a little sleepy. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: You look good.

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Speaker 5: Everybody talks about your physical appearance and how you lost weight.

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Speaker 5: But to me, I see somebody that has changed mentally

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Speaker 5: and spiritually. I see somebody that's on a healing journey

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Speaker 5: because you got to glow about you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. Well that's where it starts.

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Speaker 6: I think I had to start with, you know, cleaning

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Speaker 6: out my mind and my energy and clearing out all

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Speaker 6: of the negativity around me. And I feel like I

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Speaker 6: released so much I was holding on to and then

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Speaker 6: it starts to manifest physically as well. Like that's why

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Speaker 6: I don't call it a weight loss. I do call

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Speaker 6: it a weight release because it started. I got snatched

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Speaker 6: here first, and then my body just followed suit.

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Speaker 4: So I do feel amazing.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I've always been in a good place

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Speaker 6: because I'm always a positive person. But I think that

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Speaker 6: I was not aware of just like how much toxicity

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Speaker 6: has started.

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Speaker 4: To kind of come around in my life.

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Speaker 6: And I had a really beautiful period of isolation and

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Speaker 6: clearing of that energy. And now I just feel like, oh,

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Speaker 6: I was holding on it so much.

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Speaker 4: You gotta let go. It's hard for me.

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Speaker 6: I'm a tourist, so I'll hold I'll hold the fuck on. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: hard headed, stubborn, loyal, you know so. But I'm so

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Speaker 6: glad you feel that it's an aura thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can definitely tell me, he said. Pilates helped

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Speaker 2: a lot with it too, right.

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Speaker 6: I started out with pilates, yeah, because my back was

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Speaker 6: hurting and that was the best way to get moving.

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Speaker 4: But I do a lot of things. I strength train,

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Speaker 6: Yoga, sculpt I hike, I played pickleball, I got a

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Speaker 6: water bike.

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Speaker 1: You know, a little bit you just Pilotates was one

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Speaker 1: of the best. I did pilates with my daughter.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you do PILATEI yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wanted me to go with because I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: go at first, but it was you know, you do

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Speaker 1: some stuff with your daughter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did it.

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Speaker 1: She's twenty one, twenty three, and she took me to

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Speaker 1: do pilates and it was the most amazing thing. All

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Speaker 1: my aches, all my pains, he was able to stretch

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Speaker 1: it out. It was it was I'm the only guy

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Speaker 6: Which is crazy because Pilates, that's a man. His name

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Speaker 6: is Joseph Pilates. A man created it and is designed

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Speaker 6: to help you with longevity. So he lived to be

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Speaker 6: like well, I mean, I think he passed away in

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Speaker 6: a house fire, but he could have lived to be

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Speaker 6: like two hundred years old.

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Speaker 2: Just got changed the music a little bit. Sometimes that

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Speaker 2: music is just don't.

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Speaker 6: Be funny, stuff that motivates you to keep doing it.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes need a little I want to hear trap music.

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Speaker 6: Some trap pilates is crazy. You better trademark that for

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Speaker 6: somebody taking in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: One of our friends, Weezy do that fitness we Need

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Speaker 1: New York that does.

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Speaker 3: From the Decision of Decisions podcast.

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Speaker 5: She has an actual place called trap House Fitiness and

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Speaker 5: that's what they do.

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Speaker 6: But is it called trap plates Because I'm a branding girl,

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Speaker 6: I'm a trademarked that this.

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Speaker 3: Trap house fitness. I don't know that's cool.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, it's not taken. It's a billion dollar idea.

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Speaker 5: You've always had a form of self love that people

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Speaker 5: can see, but I feel like it's just.

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Speaker 3: More radical now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it has to be. I have to

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Speaker 6: fight for it a little bit more, but I think

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Speaker 6: I always have to fight for it though. Actually I

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Speaker 6: just think it's just like, as your life changes and

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Speaker 6: different things happen to you, you gotta you know, move differently. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think it's just a life thing. Like you can't

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Speaker 6: handle every situation in your life the same you get older,

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Speaker 4: Everybody can relate to that.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that because people think radical self

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Speaker 5: love is a constant state, but no, you gotta fight for.

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Speaker 3: It every day.

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Speaker 6: I don't love myself every day when I wake up,

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Speaker 6: Like some days I do wake up and I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 6: But some days I wake up and I don't. And

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Speaker 6: it's it's the act of seeking that, you know, love

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Speaker 6: for yourself, and you don't actually always have to be love.

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Speaker 4: It could be like it could be tolerate, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean. I'm just or accepting that I.

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Speaker 6: Don't like it, and I'm cool with that, but I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna get there one day. It's it's not a monolist,

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Speaker 7: At what point in your career did you get to

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Speaker 7: this point where like you even like talk about that

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Speaker 7: side of it more, Because I feel like when you

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Speaker 7: But now that you stream, you really get into like

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Speaker 7: how you feel for real, what you're going through, you like,

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Speaker 7: and it was a lot more protected when Lizzo first

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just think people know me a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: So I think I'm able to communicate things and not

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Speaker 6: because y'all just know me more. I think when I

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Speaker 6: the flu, you know. And but that happens to everybody,

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Speaker 6: Like any artists, you just become like a thing, you're

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Speaker 6: not a person. But I think the more we get

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Speaker 6: to know artists, and the longer they're in the game,

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Speaker 6: the brand becomes more multifaceted. And I think mine just

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Speaker 6: expanded a little bit more. So I feel more comfortable communicating.

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Speaker 6: And also I feel safer on stream talking about these

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Speaker 6: so I can tell you how the fuck I'm feeling

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Speaker 6: or what I went through, and you know, these real

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Speaker 6: moments that I have, I can share that, and I

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Speaker 6: arge you you were saying that people are kinder there

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Speaker 6: Twitch and streaming that that's good. When did you were

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Speaker 6: you scared to before? Were you scared to dive into

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Speaker 6: that part?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 6: I always kind of flirted with it because I love

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Speaker 6: like running my mouth and I love talking and I

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Speaker 6: love talking to my fans. I've always been this person

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Speaker 6: like with my social media. So I had a whole

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Speaker 6: Twitch set up in my house, just ready to go,

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Speaker 6: whole stream is set up now, I want games, all

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Speaker 6: of that, the sims, and it was just in my

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Speaker 6: I would walk by it every day and be like

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Speaker 6: then I remember my friend Solana. She was like, bitch,

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Speaker 6: I'm about to be on kay Sanat like pull up

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Speaker 6: my friend, Yes, okay, but my friends Silana, A lot

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Speaker 6: of people might not know you're talking ton I know,

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Speaker 6: you know, but the average person might night.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just like average people might not know that cause

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Speaker 6: real time. Oh god, that's terrifying. So I said, you

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Speaker 6: know what, I'm gonna pull up and I'm gonna ride

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Speaker 4: So that really helps?

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Speaker 6: Would you say, absolutely, I have to run my mouth.

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Speaker 6: I'm a life path three, I'm a communicator. So therapy

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Speaker 6: was the beginning of that. Like that saved my life,

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Speaker 6: being able to talk to somebody once a week and

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Speaker 6: I feel like when I communicate, when I write music,

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Speaker 6: I talk to people, it is very healing and it's

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Speaker 6: very connecting. I need to connect to feel good. I

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Speaker 6: can't be disconnected. I go actually insane, I learned.

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Speaker 3: You mean you can't be disconnected from people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't be disconnected from people. I go insane.

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Speaker 6: you too, since you had to, I mean, I know

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Speaker 4: Thing. Yes, she was definitely. You were definitely like that.

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Speaker 4: Just as scared. I'm like, I get lizo.

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Speaker 6: Hugging them, and I was like, you know what, this

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Speaker 4: And now I know I.

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Speaker 7: Seeing so much stuff about yourself. Even before that time, yeah,

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Speaker 6: And I'll see things about my friends that's not true,

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Speaker 5: But you got to remember, nobody cares about the truth

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Speaker 3: As long as you know that, you wouldn't pay.

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Speaker 4: This sh Also, the mess is more entertaining. They don't.

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Speaker 1: We reward people who do that, give them thousands of

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say to the red toilet paper will

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Speaker 2: I just think got black toilet paper. I never seen

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Speaker 2: no red toiler.

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Speaker 4: And I'm on my message right now. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Like you know, usually you're a pop star, right, and

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Speaker 1: A lot of times that the assholes that stand office

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Speaker 1: And every time somebody asked me about Lizzo if she's

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Speaker 2: I was like, she's the nicest, she's cool, she's.

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Speaker 2: What puts you in that mind frame to say, I

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Speaker 1: You said A lot of times you see pop stars

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Speaker 4: When it happened to me you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: People you know you have drivers pull up to you.

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Speaker 6: You don't got to drive. You sixteen year old, don't

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Speaker 6: famous in twenty nineteen. I don't think I was famous

444
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,159
Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen. Yeah, I feel like twenty twenty when

445
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 6: I want to Grammy and then guess what happened?

446
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 4: I run to Grammy January.

447
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 6: Guess what happened in March twenty twenty, Cause it's.

448
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 7: Dooe for you though, because I think that's when a

449
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 7: lot of us needed like that, like just something light

450
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 7: and yeah, we're doing that all right in the Internet,

451
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 7: and I think that's what it caught people so much.

452
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 6: But maybe that's what put the box there too though.

453
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,360
Speaker 6: But at that time, we were all separated from each

454
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 6: other because there was a global pandemic, not because I

455
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 6: am famous and I need to be separated from everyone.

456
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 6: So by the time we was able to be back outside,

457
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 6: I still have my twenty eighteen twenty nineteen mentality. I

458
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 6: want to be where the people are. I want to

459
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 6: connect with everybody, like I don't want to be put

460
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 6: on no pedestal. So I think that's the difference. I

461
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 6: don't think it's a choice being like other pop stars

462
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 6: are allegedly assholes allegedly, and I don't want to be that.

463
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 6: It's just like, this is just who I am, and

464
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 6: I think everybody should just like be yourself, you know.

465
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 4: Like I'm not going to change who I am just

466
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 4: because I'm famous.

467
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 5: Now, that's because when did you first realize that confidence

468
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 5: and healing weren't the same thing.

469
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 4: Damn, listen, you'll be with every day?

470
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: Why everybody were talking about fueh he want to be

471
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: all serious?

472
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 6: Let me think that's a really deep confidence in healing. Well,

473
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 6: they're not, first off, just by definition, because I think

474
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 6: people can fake confidence.

475
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 4: You can't fake healing.

476
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 6: Can't be fake healed, like, oh, you know you gotta

477
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 6: cut and it's like, yeah, I'm faking it.

478
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 4: You know that's a band aid. You're not really healed yet.

479
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 4: You know.

480
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 6: With confidence, there are a lot of people who walk

481
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 6: around and they can pretend to be confident. And actually,

482
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 6: I think that's what confidence's intention is, is to be

483
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 6: used a little artificially, the fake it till you make it,

484
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 6: and then eventually you get there. Because my confidence, you know,

485
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 6: I had to force it and fake it for a

486
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 6: long time because I didn't grow up in a world

487
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 6: where they were like, you're beautiful and your body is beautiful,

488
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,239
Speaker 6: and we like you, we like your personality. Yeah, you

489
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 6: watch anime and listen to rock music, we accept you.

490
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 4: No, Like I was very like.

491
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 6: Other and I think that I had to be like, no,

492
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 6: you are good enough, you are worthy of love. Your

493
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 6: body is beautiful, even when I didn't believe it. And

494
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 6: I think that that eventually, if you say something enough,

495
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 6: it can come true. You can manifest it, you can

496
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 6: create your reality. And I think I got there by

497
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 6: faking it. But healing, I think, is a little bit

498
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 6: uglier than confidence, and I think I'm still learning that.

499
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 6: I don't think there's like a singular moment, but I think, man,

500
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 6: it's funny because you look back and you're like, all

501
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 6: these years of like telling myself, I love myself and

502
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 6: I'm beautiful, and can't nobody tell me about me? Da

503
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 6: da dada da, And then people can and you realize, oh,

504
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 6: all this shit wasn't even real.

505
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 4: I was just telling myself this.

506
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 6: I was faking the funk because if I really believed

507
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 6: that y'all wouldn't be able to take this from me,

508
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 6: y'all wouldn't be able to shake me. And then being

509
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 6: like walking through the world now and being like, man,

510
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 6: this person just says something crazy to me.

511
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: People be talking to me crazy. I'm so nice, and I'll.

512
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 6: Be like, okay, cause I'm like, you know, I don't

513
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 6: need your validation, but okay, but now people talk crazy

514
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 6: to me, and I'll be like, hmm, but you know what,

515
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 6: it's not even real. You're in pain, You're hurting for

516
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 6: you to say something to me like this. What did

517
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 6: I bring out in you? Did I make you feel

518
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 6: a little insecure for a second?

519
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: Boo boo ah? I'm sorry, and I hope that I

520
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: hope it gets better for you.

521
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: But you give a lot of people grace though, Like

522
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: I've seen people have made it, cracked a joke or

523
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: said something, and then I'll see you do an interview

524
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: a couple of years later and you give them the grace.

525
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like it's the right thing to

526
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: give grace instead of just give the middle finger a

527
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: single fuck yourself?

528
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 6: Because people are as kind to others as they are

529
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 6: to themselves. And if somebody is throwing hatred or or

530
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 6: saying something mean, just mean spirited about somebody just for

531
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 6: the sake of doing it. I can't imagine how you

532
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 6: talk to yourself. I can't imagine how you think about

533
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 6: yourself and treat yourself when no one's watching. And for

534
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 6: that I've already won, So I don't need to win

535
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 6: in real life and sit up and talk bad about nobody.

536
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 6: I don't have anything bad to say about nobody. And

537
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 6: I've been dogged, I've been dog walked bad, and I

538
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 6: don't have any to say. I have nothing bad to

539
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 6: say because because I love the person I've become through

540
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 6: it all, and I think that's the real prize, that's

541
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 6: the real reward.

542
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: What did you well? First?

543
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 7: On that note, does it get on your nerves though

544
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 7: that sometimes every single thing you do people still relate

545
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 7: it to like wanting to talk about you in certain ways,

546
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 7: like you were at the met Gala the outfit went off.

547
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 7: Every headline, though, is about your weight loss and not

548
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 7: about how good you looked. And I think that that's

549
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 7: unfair And it happens a lot with you, does that

550
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 7: get annoying to you where it's like I can't move

551
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 7: around that, like people always want to talk about me.

552
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: Well, I signed up for it.

553
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 6: I knew when you know, back in twenty fourteen and

554
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 6: big girls weren't wearing leotars on stage, and I said,

555
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 6: I'm about to put me on one of these Beyonce dance leotars,

556
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 6: and I'm about to have big girls behind me wearing

557
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 6: them too, because I knew that my body would be

558
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 6: the focus of that conversation. And it was something that

559
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 6: because it was unavoidable, I either I could hide and

560
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 6: run from it, and people are gonna.

561
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 4: Do it anyway. You know. It's like the big girl

562
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 4: wearing your arms out theory.

563
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 6: It's like we know your arms big, whether you you know,

564
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 6: cover it up or not, we know your arms big,

565
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 6: So either enjoy the outfit and wear your arms out

566
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 6: or cover your arms up, but we know what it is.

567
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 6: So for me, it was just like I'm just gonna

568
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 6: run head first into it. What I didn't know is

569
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 6: that it would never go away. No matter how much

570
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 6: my body changes, It's never gonna go away. But I

571
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 6: think that I have to just like accept that and

572
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 6: I'm actually cool with it. It doesn't annoy me because

573
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 6: I look good, you know, and even when I was bigger,

574
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 6: I looked good.

575
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 4: So it's like, say what you want.

576
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 6: But there was always someone in the comments being like, yeah,

577
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 6: but she's still beautiful and she looks soft and face

578
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 6: Card never declines.

579
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 7: What about the time because I was reporting when all

580
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 7: the lawsuit stuff happened, and you didn't say anything for

581
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 7: a long time, like not at all, which those people

582
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 7: come out and say stuff. I was wondering the day

583
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 7: that it was dropped, how did you feel? What was

584
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 7: your thought process around that? Because you were in isolation

585
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 7: at that point, right.

586
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: I was in Japan, Yeah, on a dream trip.

587
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 7: A brough of fresh air or did you feel like

588
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 7: but the conversation is still there and it is hard.

589
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: Oh, it's very hard because I was confused. I was

590
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 4: confused and I was a little like hurt. But I

591
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: was in Japan with it was my first time ever

592
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: being in Japan. I was with my best friend and

593
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: her kids and we.

594
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 6: Were at Hello Kitty World, and I'm like crying in

595
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 6: the car, but I'm like, Okay, wipe your tears and

596
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 6: go in there and have fun with the babies because

597
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 6: we had Hello Kitty World, and you only do this

598
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 6: once with these kids who've never been to Japan and.

599
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: That's their dream.

600
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 6: So I did a lot of balance in between that.

601
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 6: But I'll tell you one thing about Tokyo. They don't

602
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 6: give it fuck.

603
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: What's going on in your personal life and Tokyo they're

604
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: like a picture.

605
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, Like I had a great time, like

606
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 6: nobody's nosy in Japan, and I think being there was

607
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: God for sure, because though I was dealing with a

608
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 6: lot of inner turmoil and hurt, honestly in shock and confusion,

609
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 6: I was in this place that didn't reflect that or

610
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 6: throw that back at me. I had my first panic

611
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 6: attack when I came back to la for the first

612
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 6: time after everything the lawsuit had dropped and I was

613
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 6: in Japan for like a month and I landed in America.

614
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 6: I had a panic attack in the car because as

615
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 6: I was walking through the airport, I was like, everybody

616
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 6: hates me, everybody's you know. I got in my head

617
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 6: and I got in a car and I like I

618
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 6: had this.

619
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I had this like pressure on my chest.

620
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 6: Mind you, I've had anxiety attacks that feels different than

621
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: a panic attack.

622
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: I had pressure on my chest. I said, something's really wrong.

623
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 6: I couldn't use my limbs or my body, and I

624
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,239
Speaker 6: was like I literally crawled to my bed and just

625
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 6: like broke down. I was like, what's happening to me?

626
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 6: And I talked to my doctor and was like, hey,

627
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 6: you got a panic attack?

628
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

629
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 6: And I think America, everybody want to know everybody's business here,

630
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 6: so I it's this weird almost like invisible. I'm not

631
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 6: a victim, so I don't want to say attack, but

632
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 6: it was like, you know, this pressure or this like

633
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's like implied energy in America where

634
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh I need to hide versus Japan, I

635
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 6: could be a Hello Kiddy world and everyone's like.

636
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: Right you were when somebody lies.

637
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that when you started thinking people hated you. Because

638
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: I wondered, do you remember what the industry felt like?

639
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 5: What what social media even felt like? Before that lossuit, it.

640
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: Felt very like.

641
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: Silly and lighthearted, and I had like a lot of

642
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 6: freedom to just scroll and I see nothing about me.

643
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 6: And then I was on and I would scroll and

644
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 6: every like three scrolls it was, and I was like, oh,

645
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 6: we'd be like Liza, if I just see two z's,

646
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 6: my heart start raising. My scroll been pizza, but I

647
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 6: was like wow, and I just kept scrolling, So it

648
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 6: felt it felt.

649
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: A little bit more hostile.

650
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 6: But I'll say in general, I think the internet has

651
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: gotten more hostile for everybody, every like out of nowhere,

652
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 6: Like it used to be so fun and lighthearted, and

653
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 6: now everybody is beefing and quarreling and dropping tea and

654
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 6: I'm just like, WHOA, when did this happen? But that's

655
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 6: when it happened for me, Like I was like, oh,

656
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 6: I have to get off. And so from I would

657
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 6: say October twenty twenty three to maybe even like April

658
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, I wasn't on my phone at all.

659
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: I threw my phone.

660
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 6: Away, Like I had my team post things for me

661
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 6: because I had to post about yiddie and I had

662
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 6: to post about, you know, little things I wanted to

663
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: share with people. I didn't want to completely disappear because

664
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 6: that's not who I am. But my team posted it

665
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 6: for me and I did not scroll. I did not

666
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 6: look at the internet because I was too sensitive. And

667
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 6: I think I don't think I could have handled it.

668
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 6: And I'll also say this in reference to the lawsuit,

669
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: I would say, in light of all of the other

670
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 6: like high profile lawsuits that have been coming out comparatively

671
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 6: the allegations against me, I think, now we see we're

672
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 6: just like kind of ridiculous. You know, I cracked my

673
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 6: knuckles in the script club to me and mind.

674
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: You, it was going to the strip club.

675
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 6: It doesn't say that I did anything like I didn't

676
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 6: do anything to anyone in that strip just went to

677
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 6: the strip club. And then like being fat phobic for

678
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 6: firing someone for gaining weight, that just wasn't true.

679
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't true, but just larious, right, But that's why

680
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: nobody believed.

681
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 6: It's like right, But but I also have to say,

682
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 6: like one of my fears is I don't want my

683
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 6: situation and my lawsuit to be an indicator on any

684
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 6: other that's going on. I don't want it to invalidate

685
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 6: any other actual because I will always stand for real

686
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: victims of sexual harassment and sexual violence and anything, and

687
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 6: I will always stand for them and ride for them.

688
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 6: So I don't want what happened to me to kind

689
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 6: of invalidate anything else going on in the world. And

690
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 6: that was really important to me, which is why I

691
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: was quiet for a long time, because I still want

692
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 6: to protect victims side.

693
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: Does that not change you?

694
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: Right?

695
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: How does that not change.

696
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Liz as a person? I did though, because now do

697
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: you still go out with people? Do you still feel

698
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: as free?

699
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: Do you?

700
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Are you still the listeners?

701
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

702
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: Baby? No? Baby? Yeah?

703
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: Because it changes you as a person. And is that

704
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: a good thing of bad?

705
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: I think it's an amazing thing. I am. You know what,

706
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: God really loves me.

707
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 6: I have to say that, and I feel like everything

708
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 6: that happens to me is God, and God is preparing

709
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 6: me for something that I don't even know about. But

710
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 6: I feel like I readied myself now as I feel

711
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 6: like a boss, like I feel like a better boss,

712
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 6: I feel like a better friend. I feel like I

713
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 6: know how to run a big operation, you know, because

714
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 6: mind you back to the pandemic thing. I blew up

715
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty. In twenty nineteen, I had maybe four

716
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 6: crew members. I had one roadie, I had a tour

717
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 6: manager and two dancers. And then the world shut down

718
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty and I blew up and I did

719
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: my first arena tour after being in isolation for two years.

720
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 6: And I'm suddenly standing in a room with seventy eighty

721
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 6: people that I'm like, I don't I want to know

722
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 6: everybody's names.

723
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: That works for me.

724
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 6: And it was really weird, and I got a crash

725
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 6: course and being an arena level artist, a big artist,

726
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 6: like after literally being an indie artist for ten years

727
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 6: and being in isolation for two years. So by the

728
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 6: time I was running arena level operation, I didn't have

729
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 6: no practice in that, I didn't have no experiences, and

730
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 6: I learned the hard way how to be a boss.

731
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna be a better boss for it. And

732
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 6: I'm really proud of myself. Yeah, if you're on my payroll,

733
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 6: we're not going to the bar.

734
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: We're not gonna have drinks together. You know what I'm

735
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: saying breakfast. But I got friends for that. I got

736
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: friends for that.

737
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 6: Okay, I got two friends, my best friend Alexo Derilo

738
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 6: from Ace Town. Shout out Houston, Texas and shout out Chante.

739
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 5: I knew what So what do you how do you

740
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 5: decide like what's for the stage or what's for the public,

741
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: and what's secret.

742
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 6: Now hm hmm, there's a lot that's sacred. You know,

743
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 6: my my my parameter for what's for the world. If

744
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 6: you really love something, keep that shit a secret. If

745
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 6: you really love something, keep it a secret. If so,

746
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 6: there are things that I protect now that you know. Before,

747
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 6: I didn't think it of it as protection. I thought

748
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 6: of it as like, oh my gosh, like I'm keeping

749
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 6: something from my fans, I'm keeping something from the public,

750
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: Like I want you guys to see this, like you

751
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 6: should see this. Like I literally like the.

752
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: Term hard launched. That was me, you know, because I

753
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: was like, gosh, like love, like I want y'all to

754
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: see this. This is so beautiful.

755
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 6: And then the world got two seconds of my relationship

756
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 6: and I was like, oh yeah, y'all know how to act.

757
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 7: I literally just I was looking to see I'm like,

758
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 7: she ain't posted him in a minute.

759
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: Y'all know how to act. You lost your privileges?

760
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, so all, yeah, all that cute ship, all that

761
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 6: black love back in the vaults.

762
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 7: I mean, maybe I only saw the positive stuff because

763
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 7: I thought I saw a lot of people that I

764
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 7: was happy for you.

765
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

766
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was that bad.

767
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 7: Because I was literally on my Instagram looking I'm like,

768
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 7: you know what minute people people.

769
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 4: Were really positive.

770
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 6: This isn't about like people, I do think that, you know,

771
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 6: I don't want to give nobody an opportunity to destroy

772
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 6: something good. And I found that it wasn't really necessarily

773
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 6: about my relationship that people did that. It was other things,

774
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 6: my other relationships where that happened, And I was like,

775
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 6: I don't even want to give you the opportunity, no shade, like,

776
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 6: no disrespect. I love everybody, thank you for being so cool,

777
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 6: but due to new management. But in my personal life,

778
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 6: I have to I have to protect this because I

779
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 6: saw so much get destroyed by lies and I didn't

780
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: want that to happen to my relationships.

781
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: So it's very protected. Yeah, nobody acted up.

782
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 6: I don't want this clip to go out and people

783
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: being like, well, we didn't even say nothing wrong, Like,

784
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: because I know how the internet can be, they'll take

785
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 6: seven seconds and think that I'm saying something else.

786
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: But it was more so out of it was preemptive,

787
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

788
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: But I've then you said it right something youself.

789
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that's simple. Yeah. Do you have any tear

790
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: jerkers on love in real life? We do.

791
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 6: There's one song in particular that niggas had to leave

792
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 6: a room.

793
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 4: It ran out. I said, I'm sorry. I had like, oh,

794
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get sad even though it's not. I mean,

795
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: sometimes I feel that I wrote it. I lost my dog.

796
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: I lost my dog and she was twenty years old.

797
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 6: Can you see she left the malties Yeah, And I

798
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 6: lost her like in the thick of it December twenty

799
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 6: twenty three, when I was like at my most depressed

800
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 6: and then she left and I was like, mind you

801
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 6: twenty years Like she like a grandma to me, you know,

802
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 6: And that really broke me down.

803
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: And I wrote a song about it. But it wasn't

804
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: just about Hookah. She said. I sampled her voice on

805
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: the song, but it was a lost in general.

806
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: You know.

807
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 6: I lost my father very young, and so it was

808
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 6: a song about grief and death. And I was like,

809
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 6: don't put this on your album. Like I'm the happy girl,

810
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 6: I'm the positive spin and you know, I was like,

811
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 6: you know what, I owe it to myself, not just

812
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 6: to my fans or to myself to put a song

813
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 6: like this on my album.

814
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: And so there is a moment in there.

815
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 6: It's called Phone to Heaven, and so that's a little

816
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 6: tear jerker, and there are some really raw emotional songs

817
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 6: on there, like I got a song called like a Crime,

818
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 6: and I think that you can decide what that song

819
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: is about when you listen to it. I'm really excited

820
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 6: for this album because I feel like as an artist,

821
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 6: everybody got into my singles, but they never got into

822
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 6: my albums. And my albums are so good, yeah, and

823
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 6: they're so well thought out, and I really want the

824
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 6: album to shine this time and not just oh my God,

825
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 6: a number one hit about Damn Time, because it's like,

826
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 6: my album don't sound like special, doesn't sound like about

827
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 6: damn Time, and because I Love You didn't sound like

828
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 6: truth hurts, you know what I mean. There were so

829
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 6: many other songs that show off like and these songs did.

830
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 6: They show off my musical ability, but like I had,

831
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 6: I have such an amazing.

832
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: Catalog I'm so proud of.

833
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 6: So this time I want people to get into the album,

834
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 6: which is why I've been I've gone a little rogue,

835
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 6: you know, opposite of what the label once for me,

836
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: where I'm I'm service in music. I just dropped the

837
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 6: demo to U Steal Bad today. Actually, wow, look at

838
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 6: that timing. I dropped the demo to Steal Bad because

839
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 6: I like the demo more than the finished song. And

840
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 6: there's a there's an A and R process with music

841
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 6: that people might not be privy to, but you write

842
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: a song in a studio, the A and R comes

843
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 6: through and they go, okay, fix this, write this, rewrite this,

844
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: bridge the production needs to be more like this, and

845
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 6: you're like okay, and you sit in with the producer

846
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 6: and you work on it. And I've done that process,

847
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 6: Like About Damn Time took like seven months and there

848
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 6: were like a thousand versions. So it's still bad. We

849
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 6: did the same thing and by the time we were done,

850
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 6: was still bad. And this is this is this is

851
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 6: really how I feel, and I'm sorry to Atlantic Records.

852
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 6: But by the time I was done with Still Bad,

853
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 6: I was like, this is just another about Damn Time.

854
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 6: And I looked at Ricky Reid and I was like,

855
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 6: be real with me. I was like, does this sound

856
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 6: like About Damn Time? And he was like no, no,

857
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 6: and I'm like yeah, from a sonic level, it's different

858
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 6: instruments that take the lead. It's a different bpm, it's

859
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: a different key, it has it's more indie sleeves. And

860
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 6: I was like, I'm a trust y'all on this. I

861
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 6: started doing press and interviews for it, and everybody said, yeah,

862
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 6: it's like disco funk, It's like a disco funk, and

863
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 6: I'm like, no, it's not a disco funk song. Like

864
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 6: About Damn Time was disco funk. This is inde sleeves.

865
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: But people don't fucking know that.

866
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 6: They don't know the difference. Music is about feeling. Not

867
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: everybody a music major had studied the theory behind no.

868
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: They just want to feel it. And it felt like

869
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 6: About Damn Time. And I should have followed my gut.

870
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 6: But because for me, this album is rock and roll,

871
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 6: and the demo version of Steel Bad that I put out.

872
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: Is very rock and roll. No shade to the other

873
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 4: still bad.

874
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let people decide which one they like more,

875
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 6: because they both my babies.

876
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: One is just cuter.

877
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: People who listen to your music they know why you successful, right,

878
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 5: But then you have some people who feel like you

879
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: were only successful because at the time.

880
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 3: People were checking off boxes.

881
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 5: You're the black woman, you big, you know, diversity, all

882
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: of that type of stuff.

883
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: What do you say to those people?

884
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 6: I would say that I created that lane. I don't

885
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 6: think people were looking for diversity. I was undeniable, and

886
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 6: that that created the trend of checking boxes. I don't

887
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 6: disagree that at a certain point we started checking boxes.

888
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 6: When it comes to checking a box of black, fat woman,

889
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 6: I'm a ride for that every time.

890
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: I don't care.

891
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 6: I'm rooting for everyone black, and I'm rooting for everyone fat,

892
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 6: black and woman.

893
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: I don't care. You don't have to if you're.

894
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 6: Not the most talented person in the world and you

895
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 6: got pushed through yay, because it happens to other people.

896
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: All the time who don't look like that, and we

897
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: deserve it. Mm hmm. I am big. We talk about baby,

898
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 4: I'm big. I'm not the.

899
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 6: Biggest, so now, okay, I'm in a room full of

900
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 6: people I trust.

901
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: Right the internet is like Liz O skinny now I am.

902
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: I am well over two hundred pounds, you know what

903
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm five ft nine.

904
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: In a different direction.

905
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 4: I got double numbered pants on right now. But you're

906
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: trying to be.

907
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 7: No, okay, yeah, because I think you look amazing. I

908
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 7: think are you saying that you're bigger than what an

909
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 7: industry standard is because you're not. You are bigger than

910
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 7: what some people will determine the industry thing. But that

911
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 7: standard is like going, it's twenty twenty five people. I

912
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 7: don't even think that's next to any pop star right now,

913
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 7: Like I'm still bigger than them.

914
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?

915
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: You actually look normal compared to them. I'm just saying, oh,

916
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: I hear you. Yeah, you look normal compared to it.

917
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: But they look like.

918
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's what I mean, Like twenty twenty five

919
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 7: people want to see people that look like them and

920
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 7: that Yeah. But is it because a lot of my

921
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 7: friends that I that I talk to that are on

922
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 7: weight loss journeys, they have like a body dysmorphia thing

923
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 7: where they're never in a.

924
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: Good place with themselves.

925
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 7: Did you experience that or do you deal with that sometimes?

926
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

927
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 6: I actually didn't realize how much my body changed until

928
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 6: I was filming the Love and Real Life music video.

929
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: I was in shock.

930
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 6: It shocked me because the way that I'm releasing Weight

931
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 6: has been a long, slow process, Like people maybe not

932
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 6: have seen me or been keeping up with me, but

933
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 6: I've been posting about it and I'm in a calorie deficit.

934
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: So that's the one that sneaks up on you.

935
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 6: If you're in a deficit, for so long it eventually

936
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 6: you're just you're just shedding like half a pound a week,

937
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 6: you know, And then you look up and if it's.

938
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: Been fifty two weeks, that adds up.

939
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 6: So when I was filming Love in real life and

940
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 6: they put the outfit on me and I seen the

941
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 6: number size on the pants, I said, wait a minute,

942
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 6: hold on, Like, there's not a two in front of it.

943
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 4: That's supposed to be a two right there. Why is

944
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: that a one?

945
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, something has happened. You've crossed the threshold.

946
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 6: Your body has done the thing. So now it's about

947
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 6: controlling that and making sure that it doesn't get out

948
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: of control. Because my mind will keep going even though

949
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 6: my body is like, hey, we're good.

950
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

951
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 6: Because when I look in the mirror, I still see

952
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: me in twenty twenty three, I still see me at

953
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 6: a heavier weight. Thank God, I love myself because that's fine.

954
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 6: I think that people who really experienced the body dysmorphia

955
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 6: the most, they didn't like themselves at that size, and

956
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 6: when they look in the mirror and they see that person,

957
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 6: it's they get upset and it's not enough, and that's hard.

958
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: But those people with the opposite that they missed that

959
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: weight because they were that weight for so long. Yeah,

960
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: and it feels like that's not them anymore, like they

961
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: miss that.

962
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 4: Person and that I experienced that too. I'll say this.

963
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 6: Only my big girls who have released some weight are

964
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 6: gonna understand this.

965
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: How do I say this?

966
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 6: I felt, I say this is what I was lot

967
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 6: of crazy.

968
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: Oh, here we go.

969
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 6: When I was bigger, I felt skinny. I felt skinnier

970
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 6: than I do now.

971
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: When I was bigger. I'm not gonna hold you.

972
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 6: When I was in my string bikini and I was

973
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 6: at my heaviest weight, I was like, skinny, bitch. And

974
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 6: that's when I realized, like, thin is a feeling. It's

975
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 6: not a look, and so is fat. Fat is a

976
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 6: feeling Like you've ever been around somebody thin and she's like.

977
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: Ah, so fat, I feel so fat today Because it's

978
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: a feeling. It's not real, you know what I mean.

979
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 6: Like society tries to tell you that it's real, and

980
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 6: the scale tries to tell you, but it's really how

981
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 6: you feel on the inside. So I felt skinnier then

982
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 6: than I do now.

983
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm told.

984
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: Because I get what you're saying, But if pounds, that's

985
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: more than just right.

986
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 6: No, and let's be real, yes, like there is like

987
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 6: a science behind it, like you know, there is an

988
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 6: aesthetic to it.

989
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: But I also think that.

990
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: It We've seen where Jessica Simpson had on mom jeans

991
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 6: in two thousand and five and they were calling her

992
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 6: fat and she wasn't. So it gets misinterpreted in misconstrued

993
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 6: all the time. There are objective truths. You know, there

994
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 6: are people who are bigger, and I think that's and yeah,

995
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 6: we fat. I like calling myself fat.

996
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 5: I think it's a race component too, though, because if

997
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 5: Justice Simpson was black back then you'd be like, she thick.

998
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 6: You know, you're absolutely right. But that's a whole other conversation.

999
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 6: That's a ted talk we can get into. We can

1000
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 6: get into that. I do want to racialization of beauty

1001
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 6: standards and.

1002
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 4: How it was racist.

1003
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.

1004
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: Wait, what was your question gonna be?

1005
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 3: Though?

1006
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 5: Well, I was going to ask you, you know, what

1007
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: parts of your identity did the industry try to monetize

1008
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 5: or there I say, even exploit before you even understood

1009
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 5: it yourself.

1010
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know, because you know, I was being

1011
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 6: myself and the industry is exploitative. That's that's its job.

1012
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 6: Its job is to because I think it's an industry.

1013
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 4: There's car industries.

1014
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 6: They're you know, getting a product out there, and they'll

1015
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: exploit the workers to do that, you know what I mean.

1016
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 6: So for me, I don't look at it as a

1017
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 6: negative thing. I know that word is so crazy, but

1018
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: it's like I was being sold. I was being packaged,

1019
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 6: marketed and sold for being my self and that was

1020
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 6: a weird that was a strange thing. I can't imagine

1021
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: people who have to fake their brand because that would

1022
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 6: drive me insane. I would be like, yo, dude, I

1023
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 6: don't want to do this shit. No mo, I don't

1024
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 6: want to be happy. I don't want to play the flute.

1025
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 4: I don't want to be fat, you know what I mean.

1026
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: But you said, when did I realize it? Damn? I

1027
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 4: think maybe even now.

1028
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 6: I think when I'm starting to release weight, that's when

1029
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 6: I realized it, because I remember I was. I was

1030
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 6: talking to my trainer at the time and I was like, yeah,

1031
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: I want to just like intentionally, like let go some weight,

1032
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 6: like a little bit smaller.

1033
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 4: Da da da da da.

1034
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 6: And he was like, oh, I'm about to fuck up

1035
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 6: your brand? And I was like wait what. I was

1036
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 6: like what does that mean? And I had to think

1037
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 6: about that for a while, like and then and that

1038
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 6: was when I was heavier and you know, X amount

1039
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 6: of pounds down. Later I saw the backlash. People were upset,

1040
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 6: and I was like, wait, what's happening? And that was

1041
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 6: what he was talking about, and two things are happening.

1042
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 6: The industry packaged and sold me and my fatness and

1043
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 6: my joy and all of that and marketed it to people.

1044
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 6: People saw themselves in that, but they also were just

1045
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 6: like I don't know.

1046
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: How do I say this?

1047
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 6: And being very respectful to my fans, because when it changed,

1048
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 6: it was like you aren't that person, You're you're a liar.

1049
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: You know, you lie?

1050
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 6: That wasn't real. I was sold, wasn't real. It's like

1051
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: I got the I got the package, I got the product,

1052
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 6: and then it was like always always works, and then

1053
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 6: it stopped working.

1054
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: If you were so proud of it, why would you right?

1055
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 4: And how do I say this?

1056
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 6: But there are all kinds of issues, like you know,

1057
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 6: like health issues, yeah, like that can I'm along with

1058
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 6: obesity and things like being fat, and it's like why

1059
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 6: can't I want to, you know, why can't I do

1060
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 6: this for y'all bring more awareness to that part of it,

1061
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 6: and then we'd go on this journey together.

1062
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: Y'all, my fans, y'all. You know, I'll say the only

1063
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 4: way I was able to.

1064
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 6: Do what I've done and changed my body was because

1065
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 6: I loved myself. I've never done anything healthy or positive

1066
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 6: to myself out of hatred. I've been smaller than this before,

1067
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 6: and I was starving myself. I wasn't eating, and I

1068
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 6: was the most unhappy in my entire life, and I

1069
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 6: hated myself the most at my smallest, So you know

1070
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 6: what I mean. Like, I've also been heavier, and I've

1071
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 6: hated some of that too, and I've also loved some

1072
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 6: of that. It's just like it's just not one thing.

1073
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 6: There's like so much nuance, and it's like, I'm a

1074
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 6: human being, you know what I mean, And I'm living

1075
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 6: in this body. You don't have to live in my

1076
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 6: body for the rest of your life. I have to

1077
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 6: live in yours. And people, I'll tell you one thing

1078
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 6: about me, I'm always on the right side of history.

1079
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 6: People gonna look back and understand because what I'm doing now, Gosh,

1080
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 6: people gonna think I'm full of myself. But what I'm

1081
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 6: doing now is fucking revolutionary, and it's pushing body positive

1082
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 6: positivity forward, not because I've gotten smaller, but the way

1083
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 6: that I'm talking about my body changing. Because what people

1084
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 6: don't realize is in twenty nineteen, when I was talking

1085
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 6: about body positivity over twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, I

1086
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 6: had gain fifty pounds and I was talking about that

1087
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 6: experience and talking about body positivity and how I loved

1088
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 6: myself through it all. And now when I'm on the

1089
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 6: other end of that, I'm not changing my tune. And

1090
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 6: I think that would be fraudulent if I all of

1091
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 6: a sudden changed my tune and.

1092
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 4: Said, ah fuck that. Yeah, I hated it, Haha. I

1093
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: hate it being being gotcha.

1094
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 6: You got bamboodle, bitch, run me like no, Like, I'm

1095
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 6: going to be me through this entire process. And when

1096
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 6: people look back on this, they'll be like, yeah, yeah,

1097
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 6: she was right.

1098
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 5: That's why I started the interview off talking about your

1099
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 5: mental health, and that's why I asked you the question

1100
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 5: about confidence and healing, because you know, people can talk

1101
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 5: all about the physical. The revolutionary thing about it to

1102
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 5: me is what you have done spiritually and mentally.

1103
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, And it's a lot of work. And it's

1104
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 4: a lot of work.

1105
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 6: And that's why I can say I am the best

1106
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 6: version of myself right now.

1107
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 4: You know, there's people.

1108
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 6: Like I said, like I said, I when I was

1109
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 6: younger and I had like very disordered eating and I

1110
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 6: was like really depressed and I was like really hard

1111
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 6: on my body. I was very small. There's people who

1112
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 6: look back at old pictures of that time in their

1113
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 6: life when they were small and like, oh god, I

1114
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 6: want to look like that again.

1115
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: Oh that was it, honey.

1116
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 6: If I could just go back to when I was nineteen,

1117
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to go back to her. That might

1118
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 6: have been the worst version of myself sleeping in my

1119
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 6: car and you know, going through it and running into

1120
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 6: violent and dangerous situations. No, and not eating that that's

1121
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,959
Speaker 6: what Liz will be eating because you aren't.

1122
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 4: Baby.

1123
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 6: No, there's nothing cute about hurting yourself. There's nothing cute

1124
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 6: about harming yourself. There's nothing cute about starving yourself. Like

1125
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 6: and and now it's like, I am the best version

1126
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 6: of myself, not because of how I look, even though

1127
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 6: I may be heavier than I was and small, you know,

1128
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 6: or heavy? What am I trying to say. I'm heavier

1129
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 6: than I was when I was at my smallest, and

1130
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 6: I'm smaller than I was and when I was at

1131
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 6: my heaviest. But because I'm here, this is, this is,

1132
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 6: this is what makes me the best version of myself.

1133
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 6: And no matter how my body changes, I get pregnant,

1134
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 6: I have a baby, my body gonna get bigger, my

1135
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 6: body could get smaller.

1136
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: Who knows. This is what's together? This is you know

1137
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: what I mean? And this is the most important part.

1138
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 6: And that's the part that I hope to my younger

1139
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 6: fans and so people who follow me that they don't

1140
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 6: just see my body changing and me being happy. I

1141
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 6: hope they feel that it was mental work and it

1142
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 6: was emotional work, and no matter how my body changes,

1143
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 6: this is gonna be the most important thing to me.

1144
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 5: Do you have real joy? No, because it feels like

1145
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 5: you were being joyful as a form of protests or

1146
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 5: maybe a survival tactic.

1147
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: Maybe. Yeah.

1148
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 6: I think that black joy in any form is resistance

1149
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 6: in this society, and I think it's radical in this society.

1150
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 6: I think seeing it from someone who looks like me

1151
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 6: is even more radical. And because of that, y'all don't

1152
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 6: see me ninety eight percent of the time like y'all

1153
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 6: see me two percent of the time. And why would

1154
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 6: I be miserable when I'm doing what I love? When

1155
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 6: y'all see me, I'm doing what I love. I'm either

1156
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: on stage, I'm shooting a music video, I'm doing an interview.

1157
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 6: I'm actually genuinely happy to be here, like I like

1158
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 6: talking to y'all, you know. But then there's like a

1159
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 6: whole other ninety eight percent where I may be in

1160
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 6: a bad mood, or I may be you know, over it,

1161
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 6: or you know, my stomach hurt, you know what I'm saying,

1162
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 6: Like damn, Like I'm a human being, but that part

1163
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 6: isn't shown to the world. But I do believe that

1164
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 6: my joy is still a form of resistance, especially especially

1165
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 6: right now, you know what I mean?

1166
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 4: Where I mean always, we're in a system that doesn't

1167
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: want to see us joyful, you know what I mean?

1168
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 6: They police our joys so much, and I think that

1169
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 6: my mission. I think everybody has different missions, you know,

1170
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 6: to help us, But right now, my mission is how

1171
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 6: do I help people find a community that brings them joy?

1172
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: Because that's powerful.

1173
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 7: I want to go back to the conversation that we

1174
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 7: almost got into about the black beauty standard and the

1175
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 7: difference with you being in the space that you're in.

1176
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 7: I remember it was a long time ago, Jillian Michaels.

1177
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 7: She came out and said something that the weight loss lady,

1178
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 7: and people defended you so gravely because they felt like

1179
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 7: she wouldn't have said certain things if you weren't a

1180
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 7: black woman this way. I mean it was she talked about.

1181
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 7: She basically said, why are we defending her weight? It's

1182
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 7: not healthy? Is it going to be funny when she

1183
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 7: gets diabetes? And she just went down the list and

1184
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 7: people were like, well, hey, you're bringing out all the

1185
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 7: things that happened to the black community more predominantly, so

1186
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 7: they thought it was a race thing. And that conversation

1187
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 7: happens a lot around you. When people try to attack you.

1188
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 7: People feel like, if you weren't a black woman that

1189
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 7: was doing I mean, yeah, if you weren't a black

1190
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 7: woman doing these things, you would have a little bit

1191
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 7: more grace or be propped up a bit more.

1192
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 4: Do you feel like that.

1193
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 6: You know whose voice I listened to the less when

1194
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 6: they have comments about me is celebrities. I really, I

1195
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 6: never I don't care about other celebrities opinions on me,

1196
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's interesting because it's like

1197
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 6: I care more about what my fans say about me

1198
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 6: and think about me that matters. I never hear these

1199
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 6: little trivial comments, and I only hear the apologies, you know.

1200
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 6: But I will say, somebody's health is none of your business,

1201
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 6: and I've always been on that, And it's like, we

1202
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 6: only pretend to care about people's fat people's health so

1203
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 6: we could be fat phobic to them. It's, you know,

1204
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 6: being fat is the only acceptable form of bullying in

1205
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 6: our society, if you think about it. We're taught from

1206
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 6: kids from a young age to make fun of fat people.

1207
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 4: You watch TV and the fat dude, he's like, oh,

1208
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: and then he falls over.

1209
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 6: Trying to tie his shoe, and the kids are like,

1210
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 6: you know, and you laugh in front of your parents.

1211
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 3: Your parents laughing too.

1212
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 6: But if it was anything else, your parents would be like,

1213
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 6: don't laugh at that, you know what I mean. So

1214
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 6: we are socialized to make fun of fat people, and

1215
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 6: I think that some people pretend to care about fat

1216
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 6: people's health to just make fun of them, you know,

1217
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 6: in a weird backwards backwards ass way. I will have

1218
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 6: so many things to say about this, but a lot

1219
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 6: of people and I'm not gonna say this is not

1220
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 6: a blanket statement, because I am actually terrible, and I

1221
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 6: make a lot of blanket statements in the internet.

1222
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: Gets to my ass for.

1223
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 6: It, I'm gonna say, systemically, in America, the majority of

1224
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 6: fatness is due to things that are kind of out

1225
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 6: of your control. Our food system is abysmal. Our food

1226
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 6: system has so many invisible additives that have so much

1227
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 6: sugar and caloric density and toxins, and it is it is.

1228
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 6: How do I say this without getting political? I don't

1229
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 6: want to sound like RFK, but like it's poisoning us

1230
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 6: and in our communities too, in black communities at a

1231
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 6: disproportionate level. There are food deserts, and the only the

1232
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 6: only uh.

1233
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: What's it called? Uh? What's what's it called?

1234
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 6: In the middle of a desert when it's like green,

1235
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 6: the only thank y'all, come on, smart man. The only

1236
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 6: oasis in the food desert is fast food, is snack, food,

1237
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 6: is hot cheetos, It's bread forty d D D D.

1238
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 6: So when I was a kid, I grew up in Houston, Texas.

1239
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 6: A shout out to SWAT. I was in band rehearsal,

1240
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 6: and when I got thirsty, I drank sprite. I would

1241
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 6: chug this sprite and be like, oh, I'm so thirsty.

1242
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 6: Oh my hot cheetos. Every day at lunch and then

1243
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 6: our lunch, you're not gonna get a salad or a protein.

1244
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 6: At school, at public school lunch, it was chick and tenders.

1245
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: It was.

1246
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: Cheese, stuffed bread, whatever that was. I don't know what

1247
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 4: the fuck that was. It was good, it was good.

1248
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 4: And so like, this is what we've been given.

1249
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people's fatness is genetic, you

1250
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So it's like and then there

1251
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 6: are people who, like, you know, we contend to overeat

1252
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 6: and stuff like that.

1253
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about that.

1254
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 6: I'm not making a blanking statement about it, but I'm

1255
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 6: like a lot of it is out of our control.

1256
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 5: Back here in social media too, because people aren't the

1257
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 5: activist they used to be so back in the day.

1258
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: We play social media.

1259
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 6: So it's like to sit up and just like criticize

1260
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 6: somebody for being like, hey, this is how I look

1261
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 6: right now, and you know what despite all odds, I'm

1262
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 6: okay with that.

1263
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: That don't mean that I'm like, you know, being fat

1264
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: is it? Everyone should be fat? No, it's just like, damn,

1265
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: can a bitch like herself right now? Depressed? Right? And

1266
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: if my body changes cool? If I get bigger, that's

1267
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: none of your fucking business. If I get smaller, that's

1268
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 4: none of your fucking business.

1269
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 6: But can I like myself right now so I can

1270
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 6: get through the day like you think, if I sit

1271
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: and go I hate myself. Let me just change and

1272
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 6: be skinny? Now, No, that's not how it works. So

1273
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 6: it's like, y'all want us to be miserable, but for

1274
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 6: what Because once I get small, you still not happy.

1275
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 6: So it's like, shut the fuck up, disrespectfully.

1276
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: I like that.

1277
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 7: Just for fairness of a conversation. She did, But the

1278
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 7: U turn because the people jumped on her. She said,

1279
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 7: I should have separated her from the conversation.

1280
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: It's a that in there. But your point, by the way,

1281
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 4: exactly I was gonna say. You called it because it's never.

1282
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 6: Been pre diabetic and this is not me flexing my

1283
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 6: health over nobody. But this is just me saving the facts.

1284
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 6: Don't ever put diabetes on me, I've never been pre diabetic.

1285
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 6: My father had type two diabetes, and it's like and

1286
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 6: when he passed away, I had from a young age.

1287
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 4: She passed away when I.

1288
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 6: Was nineteen twenty actually, oh my gosh, it was so

1289
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 6: long ago, but actually I'm twenty two. But when that

1290
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 6: happened to him, because he had hypertension and high blood

1291
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 6: pressure and type two from his eating habits. I have

1292
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 6: always been a healthy person. Even though I was physically larger,

1293
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 6: I was very conscious about what I put in my body.

1294
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 4: I was very active. I would post.

1295
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 6: Videos of me in the gym, running on a treadmill,

1296
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 6: lifting heavyweights. People would buy tickets to my show where

1297
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 6: I'm on stage for two hours, running back and forth

1298
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 6: playing the flute, doing choreography, rapping and singing an emoting

1299
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 6: and not being out of breath. Like I've always been

1300
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 6: a very active person. I'm always be a very healthy person. Yeah,

1301
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 6: never been pre diabetic. Honey, mind your business. That's between

1302
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 6: me and my doctor. And I'll get her on the

1303
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: phone too.

1304
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: She loved to talk.

1305
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: She takes a sugar drink.

1306
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 6: No, no, I'm glad you said that. This is a

1307
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: this is a black coffee. And then I put in

1308
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Speaker 6: half a vanilla protein shake, so actually there's no sugar

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01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 6: in this. It's it's because it's half of it. It's

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 6: about ten grands of protein and the coffee is black.

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 6: There's no sugar in this at all.

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Speaker 2: Shut up business.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, I got one last question because Lauren's

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01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 5: stomach is overhead.

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 7: And crazy last night and like I'm literally just coming

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01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 7: down from all the last night I went to drink.

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01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 4: It was so good, So over.

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 5: Here holding my stomach, boys crowding. But my last question,

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01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 5: is there a version of lizzle we haven't seen yet?

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Speaker 3: And are you afraid to shure?

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 6: I'm not afraid, but I am protective. I think protection

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 6: can be fear based. Sometimes a lot of people, like

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01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 6: a protective mother is like, oh I'm afraid something might

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01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 6: happen to my child. Let me be overly protective. So

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 6: sometimes there's a like if y'all saw how I really

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01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 6: you know am? Sometimes like when I'm working, I feel

1327
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 6: like people wouldn't understand, and it's like because I'm a

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 6: very hard worker, I actually am.

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01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 4: Like ask anybody in this industry.

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01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 6: They're like, she wanted the hardest working, And I think

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01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 6: the because I'm fat like the trope of oh she

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 6: lazy or whatever comes in and I get that put

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01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 6: on me, and so people don't put me in the

1334
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 6: category of the hardworking divas that we all know and

1335
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 6: love today. But I work very hard, and I don't

1336
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 6: show that side because you get to just enjoy the show,

1337
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 6: you get to just enjoy the product. But though I

1338
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 6: work hard, I'm very kind to the people who I

1339
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 6: work with. I'm very measured, I'm very fair. But it

1340
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 6: gets real, it gets real, And that's why I like

1341
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 6: that whole doughchy situation.

1342
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 4: I have to.

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01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 6: I have to, like nobody knows what it feels like

1344
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 6: to be in a situation like that where it's so

1345
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 6: intense and the it's your first met and you are

1346
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 6: trying to do your best, and it's like to judge

1347
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 6: black women for working hard. I don't like this new

1348
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 6: this this new I don't know what it is, this

1349
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 6: new misconception or misperception of black women who are working

1350
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 6: hard for what they want where it's getting demonized, you

1351
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 6: know what I mean? And what I also have been

1352
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 6: seeing is us as a community stand up for the

1353
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 6: black women who are in this field, Like there's not

1354
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 6: a lot of us really at the top of this game,

1355
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 6: and it's like, we really have to work seven thousand

1356
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 6: times harder than our counterparts to get shit done.

1357
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 4: And we're working actively against the system of people, you know,

1358
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 4: and then.

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 6: The the things that get projected on us, you know,

1360
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 6: the personalities that get projected on us like that.

1361
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: We have to overcome that too and subvert that.

1362
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 6: So it's like, yeah, you don't see the hard working

1363
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 6: side of me, But I gets busy. My hairstyle is

1364
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 6: back there like bitch me and my agent like when

1365
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 6: do you stop? He like, I work with my other clients.

1366
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 6: I at least have a time to go get a cocktail.

1367
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 4: You.

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01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 6: I've been working NonStop since I got here. I've been

1369
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 6: doing radio interviews. I did the met, I shot a

1370
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 6: music video after the met that night and still managed

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01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 6: to change my outfit and go to the after parties

1372
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 6: and turn up. Then I had radio the next morning.

1373
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 6: Then I turned up again. I did had radio yesterday.

1374
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 6: I have a cover shot, a cover sh yesterday. I

1375
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 6: gotta cover shoot today. I'm out here working.

1376
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: And came in here with the best energy.

1377
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 6: You don't really tired. You didn't sound tired. We didn't

1378
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 6: know I didn't know you were tired til you said it.

1379
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 6: You know, I got a show. I got two shows,

1380
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 6: all in New York. And it's just like, because I

1381
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 6: love this shit, I loved I love to work, But

1382
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna pull back the curtain and show. There's

1383
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 6: other artists who do that, Like Beyonce pulls back the

1384
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 6: curtain for us, and we see her work ethic and

1385
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 6: I respect that and I love that, and I'm like,

1386
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 6: exactly when I see how she works when she put

1387
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 6: that black hoodie on, I'm like exactly, because that's how

1388
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 6: the fuck I get down too, down to the lighting,

1389
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 6: down to the timing, down to the sounds and the

1390
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 6: sonics of the music. We put that fucking work in

1391
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 6: and the and we don't show y'all because you're gonna say, oh,

1392
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 6: she's a bitch, like black women, especially, oh she's a bitch.

1393
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 6: So it's like, we don't even want to show y'all

1394
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 6: because y'all are gonna judge us.

1395
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 4: But we need.

1396
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 6: But I love when Beyonce does it because it puts

1397
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 6: respect on it.

1398
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 4: That's how we get down.

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01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 6: So that that part, I'm not gonna pull back the

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01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 6: curtain because I already got enough falligations against me.

1401
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: Let's keep Let's go to a record, man, let's go

1402
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: to a record. Let's get into it right now. New singles,

1403
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: Still bad.

1404
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: Still bad? Which one are you playing? You're playing the

1405
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 4: disco version?

1406
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 6: Now?

1407
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: Which one you want to?

1408
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 4: I love key, wish I could play Bitch? Can you do?

1409
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: Y'all have bitch? Can we get bitch? We got bitch?

1410
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: All right?

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01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for the conversation. To keep doing

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 3: the work.

1413
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: Man.

1414
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: I love to see you blow up mind, body and spirit.

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01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: Listen to you.

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: It's the breakfast Club.

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: Good morning.

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01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.