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Speaker 3: playoff action going on right now. The Derby is coming

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Speaker 3: up a little bit later. On Bucky, how are you

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Speaker 3: feeling on this Saturday?

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Speaker 4: I am feeling great. It's a great Saturday. How's everything's

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Speaker 4: to you?

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you book, Bucky.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about this today, so I woke up

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Speaker 3: early this morning and just turned on the TV and

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Speaker 3: I suddenly realized that today was the coronation of King

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Speaker 3: Charles the Third, which is amazing because technically he became

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Speaker 3: the king like a year ago when his mother passed away.

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Speaker 3: And I'm watching this and they're going back and forth

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Speaker 3: about you know, how relevant is the monarchy in the

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Speaker 3: twenty first century. Yeah, because seventy years ago his mother

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Speaker 3: was coronated back in the nineteen fifties, and the whole

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Speaker 3: demeanor of England was a lot different and the world

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Speaker 3: obviously than it is in twenty twenty three. So I'm

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Speaker 3: watching this and then all of a sudden, I'm reminded

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Speaker 3: that today is the Kentucky Derby, and there's been horrible

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking to myself, because they were talking about

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Speaker 3: the relevance of the monarchy in twenty twenty three, how

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Speaker 3: relevant is horse racing in twenty twenty three, and now

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Speaker 3: it seems like it was a sport of kings way

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Speaker 3: back in the day. There was a time in this

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Speaker 3: country and if people don't understand this, if you go

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Speaker 3: back to the nineteen fifties, the four dominant sports in

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Speaker 3: Those were the headline sports in America. So much much

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Speaker 3: like the monarchy may have played its course, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out the relevance of horse racing in twenty

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's still some relevance. I think you

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Speaker 4: still hear. Look, it's still popular to go to the

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Speaker 4: the who's who and what's what at those events.

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Speaker 5: But I think it's different.

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Speaker 4: It's a different time, Like I do remember growing up

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Speaker 4: seeing the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness and all those

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Speaker 4: other things, but it doesn't have the same cachet. We

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Speaker 4: have other sports that are beginning to dominate and kind

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Speaker 4: people are paying attention to that. You're now seeing this

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Speaker 4: recent trend of Formula one racing kind of emerging domestically,

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Speaker 4: So it's different. There's still a place for it, but

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Speaker 4: it certainly doesn't get the same kind of attention that used.

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Speaker 2: To, no doubt about that. It's like the Indy five hundred.

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Speaker 3: You know, when I was a kid in the Indy

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Speaker 3: The Indy five hundred was a big event for me

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Speaker 3: in the IndyCar Series and it just sort of dismantled

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Speaker 2: That same thing with the Derby.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Breeders Cup to a lot of people as

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Speaker 2: And look, there's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Anytime there's a big money at stake, a lot of

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Speaker 3: I'm watching it. It's colorful. Like you say, there's a pageantry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean it's different. It's definitely not what

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Speaker 4: everyone still pays attention to that. I just think the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the ironies about the Derby over the

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Speaker 3: You know, they're heading down that first straight away and

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Speaker 3: talking about all kinds of long shots and everything else.

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Speaker 3: So we'll keep our eye on the Kentucky Derby. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: the heat and the knicks are off and running. Just

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Speaker 3: and Jimmy Butler is back. You know, I think when

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Speaker 3: we look at these NBA playoffs, Bucky.

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Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, the story was Jannis.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yannis had won a couple of MVP Awards,

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Speaker 2: Done in the postseason?

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Speaker 3: Right, And all of a sudden, Milwaukee makes a run

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Speaker 3: Just when you people have to understand, he's like in

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler has bounced around and he's found a home

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Speaker 3: obviously at great years in Chicago, but really has found

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Speaker 2: Has made such an impact.

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Speaker 3: He's back again today, had a nice first quart order

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Speaker 2: He's a guy that plays both ends of the court.

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Speaker 3: But I'm still trying to figure out because when these

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Speaker 3: I mean two years ago was Giannis. Last year, it

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Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm still trying to figure out who,

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Speaker 3: on the twenty twenty three NBA Playoffs saying it was

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Speaker 5: You know, it's tough because the playoffs have been so wild.

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Speaker 4: The fact that you bring up Giannis just a couple

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Speaker 4: of days after the Milwaukee Bucks fire Mike Budenholzer, It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: They won the title two years ago and their coach

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Speaker 4: be the year of the Nuggets. It may be the

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Speaker 4: year that we finally appreciate what Brendan ma Loan has

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Speaker 4: how this team has been dominant and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 4: Or it could be maybe if the Sons making miraculous return.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we talked about KD and Devin Booker and those guys.

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Speaker 4: So the one thing that we know there are plenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the Denver Nuggets because yesterday

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Speaker 3: I'm watching and you know, thanks to Devin Booker's forty

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Speaker 2: Everything he was throwing up was going in.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant did not have a great shooting percentage, but

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Speaker 3: those two guys had to play out of their minds.

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Speaker 3: They combined for eighty six points and that game was

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Speaker 3: still down the wire pretty much. And that is because

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Speaker 3: of Jokic, the Koala Jokic, the argument about the Most

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Speaker 3: Valuable Player award, and look at JOELLEENBII is a phenomenal

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Speaker 3: and I still had Jokis is my number one guy,

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Speaker 3: and he had something like twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: If you look at twelve major statistical categories, he had

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Speaker 2: Eight of the twelve.

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Speaker 3: But yesterday you're looking at a twenty eight point seventeen

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Speaker 3: one of those guys. It's like, you don't really pay

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Speaker 3: All this guy does is play the game with a

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Speaker 3: And last night, to me was a prime example. He

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Speaker 3: made a couple of passes that they were magic Johnson like,

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Speaker 3: I mean in his ability to thread the needle and

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Speaker 3: see ahead where guys were, you know. And I wanted

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Speaker 5: It's yeah, I think we messed I think we messed

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Speaker 4: I think Joe mb got the sympathetic vote. He bagged

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Speaker 4: they went to Joel Embiid. But I think last night

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Speaker 4: you had an opportunity to see those guys play back

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Speaker 4: to back and it was very clear in appearing who

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Speaker 4: the superior player was. And so I know we're not

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Speaker 4: supposed to make no judgment off of one game, but now, man,

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Speaker 4: there has to be a bit of remorse about who

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Speaker 4: was the MVP because Joe Kis is a different player,

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Speaker 4: completely different than Joel Embiid, and even though Embiid is

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Speaker 4: the top five player, it is just a difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I and I loved it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: Embiid was an honor before the game last night. His

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Speaker 3: kid came out, he got emotional, his parents were there.

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Speaker 3: I love all this. I'm a big fan of Joel Embiid.

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Speaker 3: But again, when we talk most Valuable, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: on the other side. I want to get to this

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Speaker 3: it's such a great area and trying to determine who

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Speaker 3: is the most viable player in any sport. But I

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Speaker 3: have a theory that actually has some basis in the

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Speaker 3: NBA where it could be a game changer in determining

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Speaker 3: who is the true.

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Speaker 2: Most valuable player each and every year.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated on this Miami Heat right now

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Speaker 3: with a twelve point lead over the Knicks, looking awfully

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Speaker 3: good right now, keep it right here. This is Fox

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Speaker 7: Bally Foosco here with Tony Fusco.

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Speaker 2: Miami Heat looking good right now.

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Speaker 3: Forty one twenty three Heat over the Knicks right now.

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Speaker 3: Remember this is a Heat team that was an eight seed.

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Speaker 3: And then, by the way, it's not unprecedented an eight

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The Celtics look awfully good in Game three. We had

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Speaker 2: Just show they are a better team than the Sixers.

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Speaker 3: I've been you know me, I've been riding this and

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Speaker 3: I hate the Celtics. I growing up my whole life

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Speaker 4: I think they may be the most talented team there.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're the best team. I don't

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Speaker 4: I think the one thing that you worry about is

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Speaker 4: their lapses, particularly under pressure and key moments. What would

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Speaker 4: Not saying that the Knicks can win this series, but

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Speaker 5: To me, that's the.

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Speaker 4: Ultimate test for the Celtics, them having dispatch the Heat,

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Speaker 4: They actually have a lot, but it depends on the

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Speaker 3: The Most Valuable Player award in the NBA is decided

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Speaker 3: And this idea again of not giving Jokic a thirknsecutive

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Speaker 3: How does Jordan not win in ninety three over Barkley

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Speaker 3: You know, Magic maybe should have had a few more awards.

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Speaker 3: Kobe had one, Shack had won, and so we gave

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Speaker 3: him one. Now let's move on and give somebody else

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Speaker 2: How credible is that.

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Speaker 3: I know there's been controversy with the players deciding for

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Speaker 3: But do you think there would be more credibility if

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Speaker 4: Absolutely it would because there's a different set of criteria

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Speaker 4: They have a tendency to know how a player is

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Speaker 4: have is when you've had players make some of these votes,

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Speaker 4: you had to be much different than sometimes what media

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because, for instance, I mean, I've looked at

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Speaker 3: who by the way, always ranked high amongst the players.

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Speaker 2: There are biases.

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Speaker 3: There's no perfect formula that says, all right, here's how

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Speaker 2: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think that if the players voted like they did

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Speaker 4: And I think even if you split it half and half, right,

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Speaker 4: Most outstanding player?

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Speaker 4: Because most valuable Player, to me is something different than

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Speaker 4: Let's make sure we give him miss Flowers MVP. Is

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Speaker 3: I love what the NFL does with the Associated Press

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Speaker 3: you look at the quarterback position right now in the

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Speaker 3: NFL and you've got an elite quarterback like a Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 3: who's to argue they aren't the most valuable player in

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Speaker 3: dot Com. Coming up on the other side, Bucket, I

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Speaker 3: want to ask you about a very prominent sports name

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Speaker 3: and whether his situation could ever be rectified.

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Speaker 2: But first let's.

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Speaker 3: Find out what is trending right now. Kevin Wyatt is

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Speaker 3: in the house. Did I actually hear you being called

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Speaker 3: wired purp?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think wires for that one?

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Speaker 2: Well, that was that was Sam. Did you have anything

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Speaker 2: to do with that? With the wire.

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Speaker 6: Wired?

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Speaker 10: There might have been a little, uh, you know, a

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Speaker 10: little bit of coordinating behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: Maybe get some wholesome drops on one stone. Literally when

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Speaker 3: I heard him drop that, I was thinking, you all

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Speaker 3: the way sore, like that is such a sad thing

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 10: I think Jonas actually came up with it, but I

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Speaker 10: assisted with the tombstone drops, so.

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Speaker 3: Very very good all the team effort. Yes, well, Kevin Wired,

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Speaker 3: who I've been told never call you k dub can't

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Speaker 3: do that either. That's a reserve for kelvin Washington, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we can't.

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Speaker 11: That's why I couldn't have just k dub on Twitter

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Speaker 11: because you took it from me. So that's why I

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Speaker 11: added an we.

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Speaker 3: Can't have two kdbs here, so you can't have k

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Speaker 3: dubs all right?

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Speaker 2: Kevin? Is that good? Can I go with you?

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Speaker 7: Call me Kevin, call me whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: I think Wired her has to be the wired wired.

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Speaker 11: This is my legacy above anything else. I can die happy.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Uh, what is actually happening mister wire right now?

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Speaker 11: It is the NBA Playoffs Eastern Conference Semifinals Game three

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Speaker 11: between the Heat and Knicks. Jimmy Butler was cleared to

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Speaker 11: play before the start of the game. End was in

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Speaker 11: the starting lineup, even got the first points.

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Speaker 7: Of the game.

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Speaker 11: For anyone who might have had money on that prop.

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Speaker 11: He now has ten points, five of nine shooting as

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Speaker 11: the Heat blowing out the Knicks by fourteen points. It's

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Speaker 11: forty eight thirty four about five minutes ago in the

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Speaker 11: second quarter. New York's really struggling in this game. The

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Speaker 11: shooting just twelve of thirty eight from the field, one

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Speaker 11: to ten from beyond the three point line. So everything

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Speaker 11: going Miami's way in this game. As for the other

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Speaker 11: NBA Playoff game, taking place today. It'll come later this

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Speaker 11: evening eight thirty Eastern out in Los Angeles the Western

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Speaker 11: Conference Semifinals Game three between the Lakers and Warriors. That

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Speaker 11: series also tied at one game a piece. The other

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Speaker 11: big sporting event taking place today, the one hundred and

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Speaker 11: forty ninth Kentucky Derby. Said that could go in around

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Speaker 11: six to forty five Eastern time, but the betting favorite

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Speaker 11: Forte not going to be on the track, as he's

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Speaker 11: been scratched following a workout earlier this morning in which

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Speaker 11: trainers met with state veterinarians. The horse had stumbled during

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Speaker 11: a workout on Thursday and is believed to have a

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Speaker 11: bruised foot. After Forte's withdrawal, tap Bit Trice, an Angel

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Speaker 11: of Empire, became the betting favorites at nine to two

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Speaker 11: odds and some sad news. It's been an issue leading

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Speaker 11: up to this Kentucky Derby. It's now six horses have

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Speaker 11: had to be euthanized. This morning report came out a horse,

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Speaker 11: a three year old named Chloe's Dream, was injured in

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Speaker 11: a pre Kentucky Derby race and had to be euthanized.

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Speaker 11: So that's a problem that's certainly going to have to

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Speaker 11: be address Major League Baseball. Houston Astros right hander Luis

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Speaker 11: Garcia needs Tommy John surgery will miss the rest of

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Speaker 11: the season. He was placed on the injured list after

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Speaker 11: leaving Mondays start against the Giants with elbow discomfort. He

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Speaker 11: only threw eight pitches in that game. And a couple

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Speaker 11: of Major League Baseball scores going on right now, we

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Speaker 11: actually have four games in action, Tigers and Cardinals at five.

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Speaker 11: That game is in the bottom of the seventh inning.

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Speaker 11: Marlin's leading the Cubs two to one. That game, in

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Speaker 11: the top of the eighth, Marlin's up to bat with

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Speaker 11: a runner on first. They're just getting started. In New York,

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Speaker 11: Rockies and Mets tied at one. In the top of

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Speaker 11: the second, it's the Rays leading the Yankees two to nothing.

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Speaker 7: Docle U, Steve, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, keV, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: We'll check in with you a little bit later on

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Speaker 3: once again we're coming you alive from the tairaq dot

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Speaker 3: com studios.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This, I don't know. Is this a problem with

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Speaker 2: you all these horses being put down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's inhumane. Yes, that's a huge problem. Like

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Speaker 4: it's one thing to say, Okay, we have the animals

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Speaker 4: and the horses, and we want to race and this

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Speaker 4: for entertainment. That's another thing for them to die over it, Like,

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Speaker 4: you don't want to see that and all the other

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Speaker 4: stuff that's coming out of it. Yes, it's a huge problem.

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Speaker 4: Is especially because it's been a rash of depths. There's

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Speaker 4: something that is going on, something that needs to be investigated.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to see that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, this is why I brought this up

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Speaker 3: earlier about whether or not there's a place for horse

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Speaker 3: racing in twenty twenty three, because back in the day,

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Speaker 3: horses went down and that just part of the game.

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Speaker 3: But now, of buff said, obviously, people look at a

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Speaker 3: whole lot differently, especially when you have an epidemic of

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Speaker 3: horses being put down. And we'll see what falls out

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Speaker 3: coming out of this year at Churchill Downs. But it

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Speaker 3: has not been a pretty situation. So last night, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: I joked thinking about it, I was watching the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: Padres game, and this has become a big rivalry, no

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Speaker 3: doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: And I can see it from both sides.

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Speaker 3: The guy was raised a Dodgers fan, but I have

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Speaker 3: spent many years of my life in San Diego as well,

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Speaker 3: and really was a part of the scene, but gave

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Speaker 3: over the last several years when the Padres went from

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Speaker 3: complete irrelevance to all of a sudden spending more money

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Speaker 3: than anyone thought they ever had to put together a

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Speaker 3: team that could rival the Dodgers. So last night in

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Speaker 3: San Diego, the Padres got the first game and we

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Speaker 3: saw Fernando Tatis Junior back at force. He had two

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Speaker 3: home runs off Clayton Kershaw. One was an absolute bomb

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Speaker 3: to dead center, the other was a missile he hit

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Speaker 3: to left, and that was the difference in the game

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Speaker 3: for the Padres to win. And he was doing all

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Speaker 3: the things that made you know him such a popular figure,

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Speaker 3: not just in San Diego, but in baseball. A year

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Speaker 3: ago at this time, people were celebrating him as the

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Speaker 3: face of baseball. And then he gets busted for peds

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Speaker 3: and he gets suspended, and he served out the rest

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Speaker 3: of his suspension earlier this year. Now he's back on

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Speaker 3: the field, and last night was a reminder again of

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Speaker 3: just how good this guy is. And he's twenty four

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Speaker 3: years old. He's got a long career ahead of him. Now,

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Speaker 3: normally with these peds it's usually at the end of

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Speaker 3: the career, right where guy's trying to extend his career,

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Speaker 3: get back the magic, the fact that, you know, if

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Speaker 3: he can stay healthy, which has been a problem for

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Speaker 3: Fernando Tuttis Junior during his career. But if he could

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Speaker 3: stay healthy and have a Hall of Fame caliber career

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Speaker 3: over let's say twenty years, has he already been expelled

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Speaker 3: from any chance of ever making the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is he a guy that because of what.

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Speaker 3: Happened to him early in his career, assuming that it

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Speaker 3: doesn't happen again, that he's already forfeited any possibility of

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Speaker 3: entering the halls of Cooperstown.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, like the unwritten rules or the

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Speaker 4: things that you have. The code in baseball is different.

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Speaker 4: In other sports and football, we see guys suspended for peds,

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Speaker 4: not necessarily all the time, but we see him, but

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Speaker 4: there's not the discussion about how it's going to taint

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Speaker 4: their legacy like it is in baseball. For Tatis, who's

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Speaker 4: a great player, who should be celebrated for being a

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Speaker 4: guy who is worthy of being the face of the

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Speaker 4: you know, the sport based on what he brings to

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Speaker 4: the table. No, this this kind of hangs with him

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Speaker 4: because I think the old school writers will always hold

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Speaker 4: that against him. It's look, your guess is as good

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Speaker 4: as mine. If it will prevent him from getting a

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Speaker 4: jacket one day, well does.

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Speaker 3: It prevision from being celebrated right now? In other words,

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Speaker 3: coming off being busted from PDS and his suspension and

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Speaker 3: washing again doing the things that he was doing before

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Speaker 3: the suspension, doing it again last night against a pitcher

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Speaker 3: of the caliber of Clayton Kershaw. You know, he used

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Speaker 3: to celebrate this major league base that will be all

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Speaker 3: over him, the little hesitation rounding the bases, going into

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Speaker 3: the third base and then touching third and coming home

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Speaker 3: and all the other antics that really a lot of

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Speaker 3: people said, we need more of that in Major League baseball.

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Speaker 3: Let's celebrate the celebration. Let's not you know, let's turn

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Speaker 3: the page and make it something that's more appealing to

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Speaker 3: a younger audience. Are we forbidden now to celebrate that,

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Speaker 3: because I mean, my answer to my own question is no,

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Speaker 3: I've never really cared. Look, you had a crime, you

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Speaker 3: paid the penalty, and now let's move on.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I really don't understand this harboring of the idea that

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Speaker 3: once you're tainted, you're always tanted.

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Speaker 2: I just don't look at it that way.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't look at it that way. And you know,

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Speaker 4: with the celebration and stuff like that. I remember watching

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Speaker 4: the World Baseball Classic. To me, that was everything that

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Speaker 4: you want. It was exciting, it was fun, it was energetic.

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Speaker 4: You know, a little trash talk and all that other

628
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Speaker 4: stuff adds some flavor to the game. And so I

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Speaker 4: am good with all of that. My question to you

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Speaker 4: would be, I'm a Dodgers fan. Yes, I know you

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Speaker 4: talked about me and around LA, like, what do you

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Speaker 4: think about the crying Clayton Kershaw meme or thing that

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Speaker 4: they put into score?

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Speaker 5: Do you see that afterwards?

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Speaker 3: Hey, look at this is okay. Here, I'm going to

636
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Speaker 3: give you a little perspective. So wherever you're listening right now,

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Speaker 3: you have teams that you root for, and then you

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Speaker 3: have the rivals, you know, like for the Yankees, it's

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Speaker 3: the Red Sox. On the college level, there's so many

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Speaker 3: classic rivalries over the years. When I'm an LA guy,

641
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Speaker 3: grew up with the Dodgers, Lakers, the Rams, the original

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Speaker 3: Rams before they moved to Orange County, uscu CLA. I'm

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Speaker 3: an LA guy and growing up in Los Angeles, san

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Speaker 3: Diego's relevance in terms of sports, San Diego was no

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Speaker 3: more relevant to me in LA than Buffalo, and there

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Speaker 3: was no relevance. LA loved San Diego. It's a nice

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Speaker 3: little getaway. You go down and see the zoo. You know,

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Speaker 3: back in the day, you go if you wanted to

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Speaker 3: see the podres of the Chargers or whoever. You go

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Speaker 3: down to San Diego to enjoy one of the most

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Speaker 3: beautiful cities in the world, no question about that. No

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Speaker 3: animosity to San Diego at all. And then I moved

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Speaker 3: to San Diego and all of a sudden I found out.

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Speaker 2: They hate LA. But it wasn't reciprocated. There was no rivalry.

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Speaker 3: In other words, San Diego fell a rivalry to LA.

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Speaker 3: But the Dodgers' rival is the Giants. You know, LA's

657
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: rivalry is the Bay Area, not sand Diego. So this

658
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: idea was such a it was there was no rivalry,

659
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: but that may have changed last year in the playoffs,

660
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: when a one hundred and eleven win Dodger team went

661
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: down to an eighty nine win Pottery's team inconvincing fashion

662
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: in that playoff. Now, Dodger fans say, yeah, it's like

663
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 3: the Lakers and the Clippers. Yeah, well they beat us

664
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Speaker 3: by how many how many championships do they have?

665
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Speaker 2: But San Diego is feeding off of that.

666
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Speaker 3: And so what they did yesterday with the crime meme

667
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: of Clayton Kershaw gave up a couple of home runs

668
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: to Fernando Tatis Junior and the Padres in the game.

669
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Speaker 3: They're they're goating the Dodgers. As a Dodger fan, I

670
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Speaker 3: ask you do you feel Do you, Bucky, as a

671
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: Dodgers fan, feel any animosity now? Which is how you

672
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: create a rivalry towards the San Diego Padres.

673
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Speaker 4: I do a little bit. So it's fascinating to me.

674
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: And maybe Brandon can weigh in on this.

675
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Speaker 3: By the way, he is decked out with his Padres

676
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: cap right now. Brandon, you want to add a little

677
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: fuel to this fire.

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Speaker 4: So so my podcast partner moved the sticks. Daniel Jeremiah

679
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: is a Padres Homer loves the Padres. Everything is about

680
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: the Padres for him. And what I can't understand and

681
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: when I talk to him, is I don't understand how

682
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: you can revel in Dodger misery. Like, to me, that's

683
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: not what a rivalry is. Like, celebrate your own accomplishments.

684
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: But when you're the Padres and you don't have notable accomplishments,

685
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: then you kind of have to like piggyback off of

686
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: the Dodgers failures. And so I don't understand that part

687
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: of the rival but they certainly have gotten my attention

688
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: with all of the stuff over the last year, and

689
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: so I think, I mean, maybe now Dodgers have to

690
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Speaker 4: take them seriously, all right, Brandon, They kind of like

691
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: the little brother thing. You don't like, the little brother

692
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Speaker 4: that you never really pay attention to.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I mean, but that's the Lakers and the Clippers.

694
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: I mean the Clippers of being the Lakers eleven straight

695
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: times thirty six of the last forty three games thirty

696
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: six and seven Clippers.

697
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Speaker 2: Had to add against the Lakers.

698
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: Laker fans of Smith's that's saying, yeah, how many championships

699
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Speaker 3: do you have?

700
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Speaker 2: Brandon?

701
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: From your perspective, obviously a proud Podres fan showing off

702
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: you're Padre Brown. By the way, I wish they would

703
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: just stay with a Brown those That's the thing that

704
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: uniform they wear is the most ugly first of all.

705
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: That's like, I don't even know when they first threw

706
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 3: those out there, I was like, you're not going to

707
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: take the field in those ghastly uniforms, are you? And

708
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: they do it now on every Friday? But how about you, Brandon?

709
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: Do you feel like now there is a true rivalry

710
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Speaker 3: between the Padres and the Dodgers?

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00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean you were.

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Speaker 9: It's kind of like a relevancy type thing, or a

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00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 9: recent zy relevance type thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I've always looked at the Dodgers as.

716
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Speaker 9: Some sort of you know, rival to San Diego and

717
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 9: Los Angeles in general. And they stole the chargers from us,

718
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 9: or the chargers left for LA.

719
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Speaker 5: You couldn't you couldn't keep them.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well I understand, I understand it's not your fault.

721
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: But doesn't want the chargers, still doesn't want the chargers

722
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Speaker 3: charge stadium, give up.

723
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 5: The money for the stadium, and the charges could have

724
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 5: been yours.

725
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: How about how about ownership giving up money for the stadium.

726
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Speaker 2: That's been nice.

727
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: He had plenty of money to do, so, don't get

728
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: me started. I'd really go down a rabbit hole. But

729
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: I mean so Bucky was offended by the crime meme

730
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: that was put up on the big scoreboard. They're at

731
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: Peco after Theres.

732
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 5: Like teenagers type stuff like, come on, is.

733
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Speaker 2: That Padres or what do you think?

734
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Speaker 9: Brandon, Well, Kevin and I were actually just talking in

735
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 9: between well, you know, kind of while you guys were talking,

736
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Speaker 9: and you know, he he brought up the reason Dylan

737
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 9: Brooks situation with the Lakers where you don't really want

738
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 9: to poke the bear. I mean, I obviously understand it's

739
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 9: just kind of like playful fun, having a little fun

740
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 9: at your rival, poking the bear a little bit, But

741
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 9: I mean, the Dodgers are not a team that you

742
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 9: really want to poke.

743
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Speaker 3: So you know, by the way, I for years and

744
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: years and years when the Dodgers would come down to

745
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: San Diego, the crowd was eighty percent Dodgers, at least

746
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: eighty percent Dodgers.

747
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's sort of an excuse.

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's go and have a nice couple of days

749
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Speaker 3: in San Diego to take in another Dodger win over

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Speaker 3: the Podres. I didn't watch last night, Brandon, was I

751
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: saw some highlights of the game. Was there a huge

752
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 3: Podres contingency? There was it fifty to fifty. What was

753
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: the crowd makeup last night?

754
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 12: No, it was it was mostly Padre alright.

755
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: So post yeah, they're really showing up right now. Look,

756
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: I'm all for rivalries in sports. I love rivalries in sports.

757
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: Give me a little animosity. I will take it every

758
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 3: single time.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, will.

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Speaker 3: History be made in the National Football League in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three a number no one has ever anticipated except

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Speaker 3: for one person. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin

764
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Speaker 3: and Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday, and we're

765
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Speaker 3: coming you live from the tyrac dot Com studios.

766
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Speaker 2: All Right, it's halftime and it's.

767
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Speaker 3: All heat so far, fifty eight forty four over the

768
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Speaker 3: next at that half. A little bit later on, we're

769
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Speaker 3: gonna get into that big Game three matchup between the

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Speaker 3: Lakers and the Golden State Warriors as the NBA playoffs continue.

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Speaker 3: And I've been, honestly, I've been watching more of these

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Speaker 3: NBA playoffs than I have in recent years. I am

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00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: into it, and there have been some interesting matchup, interesting results.

774
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Speaker 3: So we'll get into that Lakers Warriors matchup a little

775
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Speaker 3: bit later on, Buggy, but I'm gonna throw out a

776
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: number to you right now related to the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: That would be six thousand, as in how many passing

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Speaker 3: yards Lamar Jackson believes he is going to throw four

779
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Speaker 3: or certainly has a goal of in this twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three season. Now, Lamar Jackson, who has never thrown for

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Speaker 3: even four thousand yards in the season, sided the addition

782
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Speaker 3: of I'm gonna throw three names at you. Nelson Aguilar,

783
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: who am my opinion, I know him back from his

784
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: USC days, has been a pedestrian in the NFL, I

785
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: mean solid, but has never done anything.

786
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Speaker 2: Tacular in his NFL career.

787
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Speaker 3: Oldell Beckham junior, who we haven't seen on the field

788
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: in over a year, and the rookie Zay Flowers. So

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Speaker 3: he's citing the addition of these three wide receivers as

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Speaker 3: reason to believe that they are capable of a six

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Speaker 3: thousand yard passing season. I asked you, Bucky Brooks, if

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Speaker 3: you were to wager on a six thousand yard passing

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Speaker 3: season for Lamar Jackson, what kind of odds would you

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Speaker 3: give him?

795
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Speaker 4: Who small odds? Six thousand yards is ridiculous, Like I

796
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: think we see a better version of Lamar Jackson. I mean,

797
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Speaker 4: but I just can't imagine six thousand yards. But what

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00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: this is saying is there's definitely a sea change in

799
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Speaker 4: terms of how the Baltimore Ravens are going to approach

800
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Speaker 4: offense in twenty twenty three. We won't see the collegiate

801
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: like running game and the option and stuff like that.

802
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: They go through it now. I will say this watching

803
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: him at Louisville. He threw the ballary effect when he

804
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: was in Louisville, throwing off play action and doing those things.

805
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to see what Todd Muntkin does in

806
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: terms of restructuring this offense to help the Baltimore Ravens

807
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Speaker 4: become more wide open.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 4: I do believe they're losing some of their superpowers by

810
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Speaker 4: making a move to more traditional approach, because what made

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Speaker 4: them great was the differences in terms of having to

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Speaker 4: defend them, the challenge of coming up with a plan

813
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Speaker 4: to defend a different type offense each week. Well, now

814
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Speaker 4: as they become more like everybody else, it becomes easier

815
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Speaker 4: to defend them.

816
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Speaker 3: And Lamar Jackson all right, So I want to go

817
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Speaker 3: back to Lamar Jackson's MVP season because that was not

818
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Speaker 3: just a breakout season for him, but it was also

819
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Speaker 3: for the Ravens offense. And if you look at his

820
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Speaker 3: passing numbers that year, they were off the charts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, not only did he run for twelve hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: And the reason he was a unanimous choice, but his

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Speaker 3: numbers were imposing and we haven't seen close to those

824
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Speaker 3: numbers in the three subsequent years. That year, he had

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Speaker 3: thirty six touchdown, only six interceptions, completed sixty six percent

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Speaker 3: of his passes at a career high thirty one hundred

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Speaker 3: yards passing. What what do they have a wide receiver

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Speaker 3: in the short amount of time we have to the

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Speaker 3: top to say that it's going to be that much

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Speaker 3: better in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean they have like tremendous athleticism, speed and explosiveness.

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Speaker 4: All this stuff is great, but Lamar Jackson has traditionally

833
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Speaker 4: thrown better to bigger gas over to middlefield.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see what it is like, all right.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the other side, more on the NBA

836
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Speaker 3: Playoffs Game three between the Lakers and Warriors. Who's the

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Speaker 3: team de big? We'll tell you this is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Derby Saturday, and I am absolutely amazed that the pre

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Speaker 3: race coverage is longer than the pregame show for the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Is there any pregame for any sporting event

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Speaker 3: anywhere longer than the Kentucky Derby build up for a

852
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Speaker 3: race that is two minutes?

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Speaker 2: It's a two minute race.

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Speaker 3: I mean many times you're just sitting there going I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're going over the odds and they're over and up

856
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Speaker 3: for hours. Why I mean, I mean, we've got a

857
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Speaker 3: NBA Playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I might get at like an hour pregame show or tour.

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Speaker 3: This is like a five hour show.

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Speaker 2: We're still two hours away from this race going off.

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Speaker 4: This is not all day, and it has been on

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Speaker 4: all day and you tend to forget that East Post

863
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 4: time that it would be a five o'clock event because

864
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: they've talked about it.

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Speaker 5: We've seen pictures from yesterday today.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's been dressed up, like, I mean, when are we

867
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Speaker 4: finally gonna get it on?

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Wyered said, what this race is still an hour

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Speaker 3: and forty minutes away and they've had this pregame show.

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Speaker 2: For three hours, four hours I mean showing women with

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Speaker 2: gigantic cats on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean power.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll tell you one thing, whoever's producing this show, Yeah,

875
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Speaker 3: bless you. I mean, this has got to be one

876
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: of the greatest challenges of all time. How do we

877
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: fill all this time?

878
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 5: You know?

879
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean I sort of laugh when we get to

880
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: NFL Sundays on Super Bowl Sundays, you know, and you

881
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: have all these pre made packages, and you know, you know, Bucky,

882
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: we've been through the Super Bowl routine here on Fox

883
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: Sports Radia for years and years and years, and you

884
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: have that extra week, right, and all of a sudden,

885
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: you don't want to burn everything the first week because

886
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: you still have to figure out stuff to break down

887
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: the next week.

888
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get to say some stuff.

889
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta save, you gotta pace yourself. But

890
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: this this is just endless. At some point they will

891
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: have a race. Meanwhile, the biggest headline out of the

892
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: race or out of Churchill Downs has been seven horses

893
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: dead seven. Yeah, not good that that is the big

894
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: headline so far. So all right, So while that's going

895
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: on right now, Miami Heat leading the Knicks, and they've

896
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: been in control of this game throughout uh sixty one

897
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: forty seven. The series is tied it two. But you

898
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: just get a sense about this Heat team.

899
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 9: Uh.

900
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: They've been impressive throughout this postseason.

901
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: Uh. And the Knicks have got to figure out a

902
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: way of getting a win in Miami right now. It

903
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: doesn't look good in Game three. By the way, the

904
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: stats in game threes in determining the winner of the

905
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: best of seven series, it's about seventy five percent. That's

906
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 3: a big number, Bucky, And it brings to mind the

907
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: Game three we got coming up later today between the

908
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: Lakers and the Warriors. The Lakers are able to steal

909
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: Game one and got an unbelievable game from Anthony Davis

910
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: thirty seven point twenty three rebound game, and then came

911
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: Game two and no Looney, So no Looney and he

912
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: puts up what eleven points? I mean it was I'm

913
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: trying to figure out this Anthony Davis thing because I

914
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: know how much talent he has. He was named to

915
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: the seventy fifth anniversary team. You look at the numbers.

916
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: Injuries have been a problem, but right now he's healthy.

917
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: So I'm still trying to figure out how we see

918
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: one guy one day and he can't seem to pull

919
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: it off back to back. I mean, he is up

920
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: and down throughout this postseason despite being.

921
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: What we're told healthy.

922
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: What is going on with Anthony Davis and why can't

923
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 3: we see the kind of consistency they need from this guy?

924
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: If the Lakers have any plans on adding another to

925
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: the seventeen they already have.

926
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: I think it's one of the biggest frustrations that basketball

927
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 4: observers have is when it comes to looking at Anthony Davis,

928
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: someone who has top five talent, someone who has the

929
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 4: potential to be an MVP based on just his pure talent,

930
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 4: but he doesn't play like that. And so you'll have

931
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: these moments where you watch him and you just see

932
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: him dominate, like he dominated Game one and the only

933
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: thing you want is, man, why can this dude put

934
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: together back to back or string it together or you know,

935
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: as people who are in LA who have seen the Lakers.

936
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 4: I'm not a Laker fan, but yeah, why can't he

937
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: have some of the Shack stuff? Why can't he have

938
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 4: some of the Kobe stuff in him where he wants

939
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: to dominate where he does and dominate consistently over time.

940
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 4: Because my thought when they made the move for Anthony

941
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 4: Davis is that this is going to be the seamless

942
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: transition from this organization being a Lebron James led organization

943
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: to AD taking the baton and then it kind of

944
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: runs through him, much like Kareem handed off the baton

945
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: the Magic. I thought this this is how he was

946
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: going to go, and I don't know if that's going

947
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: to be the case, because you just never get enough

948
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 4: from Ad to fully buy in that he's going to

949
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 4: be the dominant player that he could or should be.

950
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: I really thought when I heard Lunny was out, I'm like, Holy,

951
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: he's just absolutely destroy The Warriors have absolutely nobody to

952
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 3: match up with Anthony Davis. There are very few players

953
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: on their best day they can match up with a

954
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: d when he puts his mind to it. I'm going

955
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: to get back to the coach because we were talking about,

956
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: you know, coaches impact in the NBA in a league,

957
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: whether you like it or not, where the players have

958
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: so much say and where they play and and everything else,

959
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: how much they play. But if you're if you're Darvin

960
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: Ham right now, I mean, man, I got I got

961
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: to call him out, like, dude, where were you? I mean,

962
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: we we needed you because Lebron got off to a

963
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: fast start. He started actually knocking down a few threes

964
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: early in that game too, something we hadn't seen throughout

965
00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 3: the post.

966
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: So Lebron was there? Where the hell are you? I

967
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: mean you?

968
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean can it can Darvin Ham be

969
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: in that kind of position? Or do you do you

970
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: feel like, wow, if I push too hard in this guy,

971
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: it's it's going to have a negative effect.

972
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: But I mean no, depends on what kind of environment

973
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 4: he's created from day one. If he's created an environment

974
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: where he's like, hey man, this is gonna be a

975
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: confront and demand culture where we're going to call you out.

976
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 4: And we've called everybody out from one to twelve on

977
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: how you play, what you played, what the expectations are,

978
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 4: then yes, you can do it. But if he hasn't

979
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 4: established that, then no, he has to kind of dance

980
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: around the issue with the team. My sense is based

981
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 4: on how Darvinham appears to be particularly impressors. I think

982
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: he probably said something about, hey man, we need more,

983
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: we expect more, we need more from you. We need

984
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: our stars to be stars in the postseason. It's about

985
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: the stars playing like stars. You saw last night how

986
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 4: Phoenix played with Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. I mean,

987
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: that's the expectation. That's typically how it's going to go like.

988
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: It has to be that kind of that kind of

989
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 4: effort every time. Your best players have to put their

990
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 4: stamp on the game, and so Anthony Davis has to

991
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: come out and do that.

992
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 5: Now.

993
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 4: The one thing I do worry about this Lakers team,

994
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: with Lebron and ad a little older, or guys that

995
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: have always had a ton of injuries that they dealt with,

996
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 4: can they bring that high level energy back to back games,

997
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 4: particularly when you're going every other day.

998
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: Well, that has been a problem.

999
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: That has been the problem for the Lakers, even though

1000
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: they've gotten this far, which is a lot further than

1001
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: it looked like they were going to make, certainly a

1002
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: couple of months ago. They have rarely had their two

1003
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: superstars have back to back great games. It just seems

1004
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: like they alternate, like one day it's an AD day,

1005
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: and then it's a Lebron day, and then it's an

1006
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: AD day.

1007
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: If they could both.

1008
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: Sync up, you know, and when they have the later

1009
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: a game on the same day, they can beat any

1010
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: team in this lager.

1011
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 5: They certainly can beat any team.

1012
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: I think the one thing is realistic expectations for Lebron

1013
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: at thirty eight, you can't expect him to bring game.

1014
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: But that is where Ad was supposed to come in.

1015
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: He's supposed to fill in the gaps for when Lebron

1016
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: does have a seventeen point game. AD is supposed to

1017
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: carry them a little farther. He's supposed to carry them

1018
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: over the threshold with all the young guys they have,

1019
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: and so a lot of it is Ad more so

1020
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 4: than Lebron. You need more out of Ad. That's what

1021
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 4: it comes down to. When Ad dominates, the team dominates,

1022
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 4: and so they have to get that. He has to

1023
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: annoy it. Everyone in the building has tonoy it. And

1024
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: they got to find a way to get them going.

1025
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 3: All right, So you've had perspective from every angle as

1026
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: a player, as a coach, as an executive. I mean,

1027
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: let's talk about Lebron an Ad. I mean, if you're

1028
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: Lebron James, do you do you pull Ad aside and say.

1029
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: Dude, what is going on here?

1030
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 6: Man?

1031
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: I need you to show up tonight?

1032
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: Can can Have you been as a player, have you

1033
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: been in a locker room where you've called out a

1034
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: teammate or you've seen teammates call out teammates where you

1035
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: have sort of that guy on the team like if

1036
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 3: things aren't actually happening, We're not waiting for the coach

1037
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: to say the obvious. We're handling this in the locker

1038
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 3: room like, dude, where are you?

1039
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: Does that go?

1040
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1041
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: The best teams, Yeah, it's player driven. Players are able

1042
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: to call each other out. You know, we talk about commitment,

1043
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: account bit and trust. Everyone has high levels of commitment.

1044
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: They're accountable for their performances, so you can trust them

1045
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 4: well in those moments. Because you can trust everybody, you

1046
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: can be honest with them, brutally honest. Now, it doesn't

1047
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 4: mean that Lebron had to go because you can't get

1048
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 4: Game two bad. But what Lebron can do is find

1049
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 4: a way to get Ad going in his own way.

1050
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: So maybe that's a early in the game. Let's make

1051
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: sure those first four or five plays go through Ad

1052
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 4: so AD's comfortable. He gets off to a fast start.

1053
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: We have seen when he gets off to a fast start,

1054
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 4: he typically plays well, So the first quarter will be everything.

1055
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: If he has a quarter where he has ten plus points, well,

1056
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: then you know the big Ad is going to show up.

1057
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: But if he's out there with one point and you

1058
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: don't really see him doing anything, the activity is minimal,

1059
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: then it's gonna be an issue for the Lakers because

1060
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 4: they will go as far as Ad goes all right.

1061
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: On the other start, we're gonna get in to the

1062
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: Warriors perspective on this game coming up. Are the Warriors

1063
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: every bit as good as they were a year ago?

1064
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: If not?

1065
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: What is actually missing? This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve

1066
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: Harvin and Bucky Brooks. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday

1067
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: and we are coming live from the tirerac dot Com studios.

1068
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be a whole lot of suspense right

1069
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: now in this Eastern Conference semifinal matchup between the Heat

1070
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: and the Knicks, it has been all Heat and it's

1071
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: only getting worse for the Knicks. Seventy three point fifty

1072
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: five right now, Miami leading New York five minutes to

1073
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: go in the third quarter. I do not anticipate a

1074
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: Knicks comeback in this game. Doesn't mean that the Knicks

1075
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: can't come back and steal a game four. But you know,

1076
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: when we've been talking about these playoffs, Bucky, and I'm

1077
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: with you, I mean, there's been a lot of things

1078
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: that we didn't expect. But one of the things we

1079
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: talked about before the playoffs even began was the idea

1080
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: of how how valuable playoff experience is. You know, we've

1081
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: seen load management trying to rest veteran players so that

1082
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: they're a better app to be able to play extended

1083
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 3: minutes in the games that actually matter in the postseason.

1084
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: But the Golden State Warriors, to me, are a prime

1085
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: example of a team that understands how to navigate the postseason. Remember,

1086
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: they haven't lost a Western Conference playoff series since twenty fourteen,

1087
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: I think is the last time.

1088
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 5: They've only been beating in the finals, right.

1089
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: Right, Only in the finals they lost the play in

1090
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. But outside of that, they

1091
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: are unblemished when it comes to matchups in Western Conference

1092
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: playoff series, and Game two, to me was a prime

1093
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: example of this, and the Lakers outplayed them by the

1094
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 3: way that there seemed to be some theory of gainsmanship

1095
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: with the Looney situation, because ultimately he did play in

1096
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: the game. You know, he came in a little bit later.

1097
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: I think he played twelve minutes, had eight rebounds. It

1098
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: look pretty much like he normally does. But you know,

1099
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: when we talk about a guy like Steve Kerr sort

1100
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: of playing a little mind game with the Lakers, and

1101
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: they started Green instead went with a smaller lineup, and

1102
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, it certainly seemed to throw off Anthony

1103
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: Davis and they brought in Looney. But I still watch

1104
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: guys like Draymond Green eleven points, eleven rebounds, nine assist

1105
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: and playing great defense. I mean, Raymond, say what you

1106
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: will about the way he conducts himself. I would take

1107
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: him on my team one hundred times out of one

1108
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: hundred times because he does the things that have to

1109
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: be done in order to win.

1110
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: And then with.

1111
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: Steph and Clay, it could be one or the other

1112
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: if it's both, forget it, it's lights out for you.

1113
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: But even if if it's not a huge game for

1114
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: Steph Klay Thompson comes up hits eight threes and thirty points.

1115
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: And then you look at their bench.

1116
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 3: You know, whether it's pool, they have a variety guys

1117
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 3: that can come off the bench, and of course Wiggins

1118
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 3: is another X factor for this team. I'm still not

1119
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: convinced that there's a better team in the Western Conference

1120
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: than dare I say, the defending NBA champion Golden State Warriors.

1121
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 4: You know, so here's the thing about you talk about

1122
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 4: experience and being able to navigate it. The one thing

1123
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 4: that happens when you've had a lot of success and

1124
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: you've gone to finals, you kind of understand the intensity

1125
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 4: of each round and how it goes up, and as

1126
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: you play these playoff games, you're better prepared to handle

1127
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 4: the ebbs and flows that come along with it. This

1128
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 4: are saying that winners win, right, and once you're used

1129
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: to winning, and once you've learned how to win titles,

1130
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: you understand the formula that's necessary to win, and that

1131
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: is a huge advantage when you play against inexperienced teams.

1132
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 4: I am looking at the Miami Heat and the Knicks,

1133
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting here. You know, people are kind of

1134
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: talking about the the Miami Heat struggling during the regular season,

1135
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 4: but here they are in the postseason, kind of grinding

1136
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 4: their way through because the postseason is more like how

1137
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: they want to play in the regular season, grimy, tough compete.

1138
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: Every possession is a knockdown, drag out fight for four quarters. Well,

1139
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 4: the same thing for the Golden State Warriors in terms

1140
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 4: of they understand, like when they're playing the Sacramento Kings,

1141
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 4: they know how those runs and they come in runs

1142
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 4: and waves and all that other stuff. And so it's

1143
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 4: a huge advantage that they've been to as many finals

1144
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 4: as they've been to over the last decade because they

1145
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 4: know how to operate in this sixteen game run to

1146
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: the final, because all you gotta do is win sixteen

1147
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: games to win it. And so that's how they approach it,

1148
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: and they don't get too high or too low when

1149
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: things go their way or don't go their way. They

1150
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: just know, we just got to get to sixteen. We

1151
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: get to sixteen wins, we get a chance to hoist

1152
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: up the big old ball. And so that's what they're

1153
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 4: focused on.

1154
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: I love this stuff.

1155
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: And by the way, I can go all the way

1156
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: back once I turn the page on history, as I

1157
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 3: like to do every once in a while. Bill Russell's

1158
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 3: last championship nineteen sixty nine against the Lakers and Wilton

1159
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: Baylor and West, winning Game seven at the Forum. That

1160
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: Celtic team in those days, they had a much smaller league. Obviously,

1161
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: top four teams in each conference went to the playoffs.

1162
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 3: They were the fourth seed in the East out of

1163
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: four teams that made the playoffs, and it only took them.

1164
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: They had a sweep in the first round and a

1165
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: six game series in the second round, and then they

1166
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: end up winning a championship. Bill Russell's last game, Sam

1167
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: Jones Hall of Famer, also his last game, and just

1168
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 3: remembering how that team did it. Obviously a different game,

1169
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 3: but the same theory of just finding ways to win

1170
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: games late, stealing games the little plays late, and I

1171
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: see a lot of that with the Golden State Wars.

1172
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm actious to see how this is going to turn out.

1173
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: As I mentioned, Game three winners in the best of

1174
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: the seven series have gone on to win the series

1175
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: seventy five percent of the time. Lakers will have home court.

1176
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: The Warrior were awful all season long on the road.

1177
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 3: They were eleven and thirty on the road.

1178
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: But in their last.

1179
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: Playoff series against Sacramento, what happened. They win Game five

1180
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: on the road, and after losing Game six at home,

1181
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 3: they win Game seven on the road. So they completely

1182
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: contradict what happened during the regular season when the games

1183
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 3: matters most. That's why when I and by the way,

1184
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of the Nuggets right now. I

1185
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: think ultimately they're gonna win that series against the Phoenix Suns,

1186
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: especially if Chris Paul can't be one hundred percent, he

1187
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 3: might be out. We don't know for sure, but I'll

1188
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: tell you what. I wouldn't bet against Golden State. I

1189
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't bet it against them in this series. And if

1190
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: they get against Denver, I wouldn't bet against them.

1191
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: No, I mean, you can't bet against them. But I

1192
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: will say this, I worry about I worry about their

1193
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: ability to defend. Like if they happen to go to

1194
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 4: the next round against Denver, I just can see Joka

1195
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: just going bonkers instant because I don't know, I don't

1196
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 4: know how you can stop him. You know, and then

1197
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: it comes down to the three point shooting deal. And look,

1198
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 4: they're few that can shoot like Golden State in terms

1199
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 4: of like just the other night, like they were gonna

1200
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: beat anybody. You get thirty three, is you gonna win

1201
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 4: games like you get ninety plus points from the three

1202
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 4: point line?

1203
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 5: Like that's what you're gonna do. So it's just a

1204
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 5: matter of them doing it.

1205
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 4: But like we said about the Lakers, can they do

1206
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: it back to back at the age? I mean, you're

1207
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 4: talking about guys that are in their thirties mid thirties, Ken,

1208
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 4: Steph and Clay go back to back to back playing

1209
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: and shooting like they did. Because it takes a lot

1210
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: out of you playing forty plus minutes. That's the one

1211
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: thing that can catch up with them. Their young guys

1212
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: are gonna have to give them some some key minutes

1213
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: and some contributions so they all don't have to go

1214
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 4: big all the time.

1215
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: But this is where Draymond also finds his way in right,

1216
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: I guess say, you know, I had a near triple

1217
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: double in this game. He still has a presence on

1218
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: the defensive end. He's still a guy that's gonna get

1219
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: a lot of attention from the officials and could get

1220
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: teed up at any point. But having a guy like

1221
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: Draymond on your team is just It allows Curry to

1222
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 3: be Curry and Thompson to be Thompson, allows the rest

1223
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: of the guys to just go out and try to

1224
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: knock down shots. That's their game plan. I mean, that's

1225
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: what they try to do. What do you make of

1226
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr? I mean, do you place Steve Kerr just

1227
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: based on four championships amongst the all time elite coaches?

1228
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 5: What role?

1229
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: Because it's always amazing to me when we think about

1230
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: the Warriors and how we got to this point with

1231
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: this Warriors team. If you go back, the Warriors were

1232
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: just another team. They had Steph Curry, they had Klay Thompson,

1233
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: and they changed their philosophy with Jerry West coming in

1234
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: as a voice in that organization, with their general manager

1235
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: Bob Myers, and then they made the shift from Mark Jackson,

1236
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: who really was the guy to help create the Splash Brothers,

1237
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: to Steve Kerr, and a lot of people thought, well,

1238
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: the timing was right, And I'd say, well, was the

1239
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: timing right? When Phil Jackson joined Shaq and Kobe where

1240
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: they his first year boom, they finally won a championship

1241
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: after you know, knocking on the door for several years.

1242
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: What role does Kerr putting on your coach's hat here

1243
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: Bucky play for this Warriors team.

1244
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 4: I mean he deserves a credit. I mean Mark Jackson

1245
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: put together a nice foundation. I mean he certainly set

1246
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: the table for the next coach to have success. But

1247
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: I can't guarantee that Mark Jackson would have taken the

1248
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: Warriors to the heights that they have gone to since

1249
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 4: Steve Kerr has taken over. You got to remember, like

1250
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: the centers of influence for Steve Kerr. You think about

1251
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: Greg Popovich, you think about what he learned from Phil Jackson,

1252
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: even going back to loud Olsen. All of those things

1253
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 4: are baked in the recipe of what he's been able

1254
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 4: to do with the Golden State Warriors. Because he played

1255
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 4: on so many championship teams, He's able to kind of

1256
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: dig back into some of those old stories, some of

1257
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: those old strategies.

1258
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 5: He's able to think.

1259
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: About hot pop and how Jackson handles certain things while

1260
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 4: putting his own spin on it. And so I'll give

1261
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 4: him all the credit because you don't do what he's

1262
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: been able to do not only in having that run,

1263
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: but then you remember they stepped back, they were bad

1264
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: for a couple of years, and then he brought them

1265
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 4: right back to heust to get that last championship. To me,

1266
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 4: that's what sealed the deal. It's one thing when it

1267
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: went on that run, when everything was set up for

1268
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: them and they exploded. It's another thing when they had

1269
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 4: to take a step back and he had to rebuild

1270
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 4: them when Klay Thompson was out and when Steph was

1271
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 4: hurt and they were taking loss after loss after loss.

1272
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 4: They didn't even get invited to the bubble during COVID,

1273
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 4: you know. And so he deserves a lot of credit

1274
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: for being able to consistently adapt and adjust and to

1275
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: keep this name rolling for the Warriors.

1276
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, it was a game changer last year.

1277
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 3: I want to get into legacy on the other side

1278
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: of someone affected by the warriors recent success. But first

1279
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 3: let's find out what is trending right now. Kevin Wyart,

1280
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 3: affectionately known whyehurt.

1281
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 7: Herp yep, thank Jonas for that one.

1282
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm thanking him for that.

1283
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you realize sometimes, I mean, have you ever

1284
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: been given a nickname that sticks that you're like, I'm

1285
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: not happy with that.

1286
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: I'll give you an example.

1287
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: Do you know the baseball former baseball pitcher, longtime Angels

1288
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: announcer Mark Gooba is up and I've known Mark for years, right,

1289
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: and so will you bring him on Gooby? And then

1290
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: he sort of pulled me aside because everyone was calling

1291
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: him Gooby and he's like and he's as a friend

1292
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 3: and he's super nice guy, and I'm like, he goes Steve.

1293
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 3: You know, honestly, I'm not a I don't know, big

1294
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: fan of Gooby. So I was the one guy that

1295
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: would say Mark Gubi's Mark, what's going on?

1296
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 5: You know?

1297
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: Because if other people are.

1298
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 7: Like Gooby Gooby.

1299
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: And he's like, dude, I don't really want to be

1300
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 3: called Gooby.

1301
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 11: I mean to me, as long as it's not like

1302
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 11: a degrading nickname, I don't care what you call me.

1303
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 7: You can call me whatever you want.

1304
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: Is wyatt erp alive or death?

1305
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 7: A lot?

1306
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 5: It is a lot?

1307
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 7: What are you talking about? There's a new sheriff in town.

1308
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 3: Here, Sam, you've seen perplexed by this whole line of question.

1309
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 10: Well, the real wired IRP actually passed away nineteen twenty

1310
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 10: nine in Los Angeles, Yes.

1311
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 5: He did.

1312
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: I think wired, Kevin.

1313
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 10: Wired IRP is a fantastic nickname, and it's empowering to Kevin.

1314
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 10: And it's not like Gooby, which sounds like goober you know, Yeah,

1315
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 10: can make sense. That's a little bit denigrating, right, And

1316
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 10: Wired RP is like badass sheriff, you know, the law man.

1317
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: So that's wheight. That's why I don't like.

1318
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: It, Kevin. Then I'm gonna call you wired.

1319
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 7: I like it that part of it, and give it

1320
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 7: to me.

1321
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: What's happening out there, keV.

1322
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 11: Well, this game between the Miami Heat and New York

1323
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 11: Knicks not much of a contest. When Jimmy Butler was

1324
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 11: clear to play right before the game, it was definitely

1325
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 11: clear that would affect the outcome. Miami was favored by

1326
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 11: just four entering the game today, if, of course, Jimmy

1327
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 11: Butler having the impact we all expected him to. He

1328
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 11: has twenty two points that leads all scores off. He

1329
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 11: has seven to seventeen shooting as Miami on top by twenty.

1330
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 11: It's eighty four sixty four, two minutes left in the

1331
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 11: third quarter and the New York Knicks just struggling mightily

1332
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 11: shooting the basketball twenty three of sixty six. That's thirty

1333
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 11: four point eight percent shooting from the field, of just

1334
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 11: five of twenty six shooting from beyond the three point arts.

1335
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 11: That's actually an improvement from where they were at halftime.

1336
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 11: But Miami really running away with this one, and it

1337
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 11: looks like they're going to take a two to one

1338
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 11: series lead. The Lakers and Warriors set to get going

1339
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 11: at eight thirty Eastern Western Conference Semifinals that is also

1340
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 11: tied at one game aside one hundred and forty nine

1341
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 11: Kentucky Derby set to get going in a little over

1342
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 11: an hour from now six to forty.

1343
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: Five easts longer until this race.

1344
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 11: Right yeah, I mean it's like the Super Bowl right

1345
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 11: where you're sitting watching pregame shows five six perience.

1346
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: Is this is a two two men at race, not

1347
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: a three hour football game.

1348
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 7: We're riking forward to it.

1349
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, I don't know how much more you

1350
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 11: can break down the race, aren't some of these pre

1351
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 11: races live like they're are doing well.

1352
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: They are races, right, Yeah. The Derby is part of

1353
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: a whole full race schedule.

1354
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 3: Obviously, but the main event is about me too. So

1355
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: people are confused because you're watching your like seeing that

1356
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 3: is this the race?

1357
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: Now, that's not the race.

1358
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 11: Like horse racing is about being there at the track,

1359
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 11: enjoying a whole day, placing wagers, drinking, wearing fancy clothes.

1360
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: Not necessarily in that order.

1361
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, right now.

1362
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 11: Del Mar is one of my favorite places, but those

1363
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 11: are the days. But there has been an issue leading

1364
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 11: up to this Kentucky Derby. Six horses now have had

1365
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 11: to be euthanized. This morning, it was reported that a

1366
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 11: three year old named Chloe's Dream was injured and had

1367
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 11: to be put down. So that's something that they're really

1368
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 11: going to have to look into as they get set

1369
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 11: to race this one hundred and forty ninth edition of

1370
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 11: the Kentucky Derby. We have some NHL news actually that

1371
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 11: just popped up. The New York Rangers firing head coach

1372
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 11: Gerard Galant after the Rangers lost to their cross Hudson

1373
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 11: River rivals, the New Jersey Devils in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

1374
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 11: That one just coming through again. New York Rangers and

1375
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 11: head coach Guard Gallant have well, they says it. That

1376
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 11: report says they have mutually agreed to part ways. But

1377
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 11: intertre of that, how you will.

1378
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: I was gonna use I hate to use this analogy,

1379
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: but we're talking about this tragic situation with these horses.

1380
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: It's almost like for every horse that goes down, another

1381
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 3: coach goes down.

1382
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean.

1383
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago. Yeah, this has been absolutely crazy.

1384
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: All right, well, Kevin, thank you very much. We'll update

1385
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: on that situation. By the way, once again, we are

1386
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. We're

1387
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,479
Speaker 3: talking about the Warriors and and as they get ready

1388
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: for Game three of their series with the Lakers. And

1389
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this last night watching Kevin Durant.

1390
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: Durant did not shoot the ball particularly well. If it

1391
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 3: hadn't been for Devin Booker's unreal game last night twenty

1392
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: twenty five, shooting forty seven points, the Sons would be

1393
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: down three games to none in the series to the

1394
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets. And you know, we always get back to

1395
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: who made who. We've talked about this with the Belichick

1396
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: situation with Tom Brady, and we go back to Kevin

1397
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 3: Durant and his arrival with an already made Golden State

1398
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 3: Warriors team winning a couple of championships and then bolting

1399
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: for Brooklyn after taking a year off for injuries, and

1400
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: it really hasn't worked all that well. I mean, his

1401
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: postseason numbers since his departure from Golden State have not

1402
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 3: exactly been glowing.

1403
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: Here.

1404
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 3: Do you believe the Warriors rebounding to championship level a

1405
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 3: year ago and if they can continue on in any

1406
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 3: way disparages the legacy of Kevin Durant.

1407
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if it dispairs is his legacy. Obviously

1408
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 4: you kind of wonder why he left. But he's an

1409
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 4: all timer. I mean, we could say a lot of

1410
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 4: things about him. Look, man, he's a baller and there's

1411
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 4: no one that can dispute what he does individually. We

1412
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 4: can talk about the team's success, but when he was

1413
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 4: with the Golden State Warriors, he was clearly the best

1414
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 4: player on their team. They don't win without Kevin Durant.

1415
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 4: They called him to come and get them over the top.

1416
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 4: And so to me, Nah, his legacy isn't disparage. I

1417
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 4: think he's trying to do something different and everybody doesn't

1418
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 4: want to say in the same spot, do you have

1419
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 4: a new set of player because this AAU culture. Remember

1420
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 4: they bounce around and move around, so we can't put

1421
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: those same expectations that we used to put on others.

1422
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 5: It's a different time.

1423
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 3: So if you look back to the championships, the back

1424
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: to back championships, then of course they lost the following

1425
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: year to Toronto when he got hurt and other people

1426
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 3: got hurt. Clay, do you well, and remember they had

1427
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 3: won seventy three games, they had a three to one

1428
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: series lead in the finals against the Cavaliers, and then

1429
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 3: Lebron and Kyrie and company made that miraculous comeback, winning

1430
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: not only three games in a row, but two games

1431
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: on the road to steal that NBA Finals, and then

1432
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: Durant shows up and they went two more. Do you

1433
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: don't think the Warriors could have won those two championships

1434
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 3: without Kevin Durant.

1435
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 5: No, really, I don't think. No.

1436
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: I don't think they went without Kevin Durant. I don't

1437
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 4: I think Kevin Durant was the key. I don't think

1438
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 4: they beat the Cleveland Cavaliers without Kevin Durrant because remember,

1439
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant had to make big shots for them to win.

1440
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 4: He gave them something that they didn't have. He gave

1441
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 4: them at the extra score that you had to defend,

1442
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 4: so you couldn't deal with them, And so no, I

1443
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 4: don't think they continue to sustain to run. There was

1444
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 4: a reason why Draymond called them at that point, and

1445
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 4: so it's one of those things we just have to

1446
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 4: understand and give him his prost because he is in

1447
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 4: all timer when it comes to being able to put

1448
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 4: the ball in the basket. He created a super duper

1449
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 4: team when he came along, and so it's it is

1450
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 4: what it is. But I don't think him losing in

1451
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 4: Brooklyn and having to go to Phoenix and all that

1452
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 4: changes anything in terms of how we feel about him

1453
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 4: and his legacy.

1454
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 3: So even if Phoenix goes down meekly in the series,

1455
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying it's going to happen, I just

1456
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: I like what I see in Denver right now.

1457
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 2: I certainly like what Jokic is doing.

1458
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: Murray obviously has been playing some outstanding basketball as well

1459
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: for the Nuggets. But so if they go down meekly,

1460
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: Let's say they go out in five games in the series,

1461
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 3: like they lose Game four at home, and they go

1462
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 3: back to Denver and lose, and again they gutted their

1463
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 3: roster to bring in Kevin Durant, specifically to get them

1464
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 3: over the top. In fact, I don't know where Phoenix

1465
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 3: goes from here. Chris Paul his days are over as

1466
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: to me, as being an elite player in the NBA,

1467
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: he could have moments, but he at this age too

1468
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 3: many miles on him. And dare I say, might be

1469
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 3: the same situation with Kevin Durant. I wasn't wild for

1470
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: the deal for Phoenix in the first place. Well, they

1471
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 3: win sixty four games a year ago, you get upset

1472
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. I can understand you're sore about that,

1473
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: but you had a nice nucleus yet, you had obviously

1474
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: Devin Booker, you had Chris Paul, you had some nice

1475
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 3: pieces around them. He had a little depth on the bench,

1476
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 3: and now that's all gone and you traded it all

1477
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: for Kevin Durant, And.

1478
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think Kevin Durant.

1479
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't see how this is going to work.

1480
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's gonna be tough because they don't

1481
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 4: have enough players. But I don't know if that team

1482
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 4: that they currently that they had constructed before Kevin Durant

1483
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: got there, they weren't going to get pasted.

1484
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 5: It either.

1485
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 4: And so the thing about it, it's a short term

1486
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: play in terms of trying to get Kevin Durant there. Uh,

1487
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 4: he's a talented player. But then you have to figure

1488
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 4: out how to rebuild it. The big issue that you

1489
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 4: have is that they weren't courageous enough to not pay

1490
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 4: Chris Paul. That was the issue. So now you have

1491
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 4: Chris Paul a declining a declining player, a descending player

1492
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 4: on the books et significant money and he's never going

1493
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 4: to give you what.

1494
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 5: You're paid him.

1495
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 4: And so how do you work around him while having

1496
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 4: a thin Vince and Devin Booker and Kevin Durant having

1497
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 4: to do so much work.

1498
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 3: I remember an interview back in the day when I

1499
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: was doing my radio show with Michael Thompson, who, by

1500
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 3: the way, the year that Kevin duran and Greg Odin

1501
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 3: came out in the same draft, he Michael Thompson predicted

1502
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 3: that Odin would be a superstar and Durant would be

1503
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: barely a footnote in basketball history.

1504
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: He was not yeah that was Michael Thompson. He was, well, yeah,

1505
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 2: barely a footnote.

1506
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 3: He because his idea that to watch some you know, six,

1507
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: you know, seven foot shooting jump shots is not going

1508
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: to cut. He was a big Odin fan, and we

1509
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: don't know how good Greg Odin could have been. He

1510
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: just had injuries and he was like forty five when

1511
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: he was a rookie the league. At least he looked

1512
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: for me five when he came in the league. But

1513
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 3: I'll never get this. After Durant's rookie season with the

1514
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 3: then Seattle SuperSonics before they moved to Oklahoma City, we

1515
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 3: had their coach on PJ Carlissimo, and I asked him,

1516
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 3: I said, so, how good good can Kevin Durant be?

1517
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 3: This is after his rookie season, and Pjkerlissimo said to us,

1518
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 3: I'll put it this way. I wouldn't trade Kevin Durant

1519
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: right now for any player in the league. And we

1520
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 3: were like, for Kobe for Lebron. You wouldn't trade Kevin

1521
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 3: Durant for Lebron. Or listen to me. He said, this

1522
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: guy will be an MVP. He will lead the league

1523
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 3: in scoring several times. I would not trade him for

1524
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: any player. I thought he had lost his mind. I said, PJ,

1525
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 3: come on, you've been etherized by this kid. I mean,

1526
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 3: is he really got that kind of ceiling and he

1527
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: proved to be right. I mean, Durant, I agree, look

1528
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 3: at well, we never know. I mean we can always

1529
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 3: look back on certain championships. I think that what the

1530
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: Warriors did a year ago may have proved to some

1531
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: doubters about could they have gotten it done without Kevin Durant,

1532
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 3: because they proved they could last season. But I agree

1533
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 3: that it doesn't diminish Kevin Durant's stature in this league.

1534
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 3: But I again, it just it gets back to this

1535
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 3: notion now as we see these moving pieces around the NBA,

1536
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 3: speaking of these players going from one team to another,

1537
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 3: that it's more than just individual talent. There's got to

1538
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 3: be a chemistry. That's something that's got to work together.

1539
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 3: And maybe we even saw it the other day with

1540
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: the James Harden situation. No, no EMBIID he goes off

1541
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 3: for forty five. Did you see this last game and

1542
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 3: James Harden? What it's like Anthony Davis? How could he

1543
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 3: be so great one day and so bad the next.

1544
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 4: I think it'd be hard for James Harden in this

1545
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 4: situation because of when he has to go through EMBIID,

1546
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 4: he has to become more the facilitator than more so

1547
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: the natural guy that is hunting it, hunting his shot.

1548
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 4: And he has been so good for so many years

1549
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 4: for Houston and even with Brooklyn to a lesser degree

1550
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 4: at getting his shot off, and so now he has

1551
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 4: to go Look, he has that game where he's able

1552
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 4: to kind of go back to being him, his normal self,

1553
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 4: to now he has to go back to playing the

1554
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 4: point guard. And I think it's just a huge change.

1555
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 4: And I think it's a change not only for him

1556
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 4: but for everybody around them. Because Jordan beat is the MVP.

1557
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 4: He commands so much attention when he gets the ball,

1558
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 4: but everyone has to stand around and play differently. The

1559
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 4: floor opens up differently when he's off the floor, and

1560
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 4: James Harden is able to kind of get into the

1561
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: pain and do his thing and dribble and put it

1562
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 4: on the yo yo and then get the ball to

1563
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 4: everybody else based on the reaction of the defense. It's

1564
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 4: just a different game, and you know, it'd be interesting

1565
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 4: to see how this continues to play out. I don't look,

1566
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 4: I don't think they can beat the Celtics. I don't

1567
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 4: think they play hard enough or gritty enough to test

1568
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 4: the Celtics in a seven game series. They may win

1569
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 4: another game. I just can't see them getting over the top.

1570
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think the frustration you express with James

1571
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 4: Harden is what a lot of people have with him

1572
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 4: and some of the other guys that are supposed to

1573
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 4: be big time. But maybe in the postseason they come

1574
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 4: up a little short of two.

1575
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVPs is in the balance, they'll tell you

1576
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 3: who they are.

1577
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

1578
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 3: Steve Harbin and Bucky Brooks, Fox Sports Saturday. We are

1579
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 3: coming he live from the Tiraq dot Com studios. Still

1580
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 3: no suspense in this matchup. That Heat continued to dominate

1581
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 3: the next ninety one seventy two, Miami leading inside nine minutes.

1582
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: To go in the fourth.

1583
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 3: Looks like the Heat well on their way to taking

1584
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 3: a two to one series lead. Then later on, of course,

1585
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: the Lakers and the Warriors Big Game three. Cannot wait

1586
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: to sit down and watch that matchup. Also, Adam Kaplan,

1587
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 3: our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider will be joining us

1588
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: in the next hour. Bucky, I want to ask you

1589
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 3: about a couple of Super Bowl MVP quarterbacks at very

1590
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 3: different stages of the career. I want to start with

1591
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 3: Nick Foles, who got his release not unexpectedly by the

1592
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts. Slit two full with Nick Foles. So when

1593
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 3: you think of Nick Foles, the highlights of his career

1594
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 3: was the early part of his career when he had

1595
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 3: that fabulous run with the Eagles the first time around.

1596
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 3: Remember what he had some like five straight, six straight

1597
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 3: games of the highest passer ratings in the history of

1598
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 3: the NFL, some crazy numbers, and then that sort of

1599
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: went by the wayside, and then he revived his career

1600
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 3: with that tremendous one capped off by his Super Bowl

1601
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 3: winning performance for the Philadelphia Eagles. A.

1602
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,919
Speaker 2: Does he have any future left in the NFL?

1603
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 3: And why wasn't he able to more consistently be the

1604
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: guy that we saw in those two runs with the

1605
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles.

1606
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 5: A couple of things.

1607
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 4: I think Nick Foles can ultimately determine whether his NFL

1608
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: career is done. He's done enough where he always have

1609
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 4: an opportunity to be a backup. He's played well enough

1610
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 4: in spot duty to get that. And I think the

1611
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 4: reason why we haven't seen him play at those levels again. One,

1612
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 4: I think there was always a bit of a ceiling

1613
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 4: on what he could do based on his town and

1614
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 4: those things too. I don't know if there have been

1615
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 4: other coaches who've shown the flexibility and adaptability that Doug

1616
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 4: Peterson showed when Nick Foles was his quarterback. He changed

1617
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 4: that offense and went back to the Chip Kelly offense.

1618
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,839
Speaker 4: Basically when Nick Foles took over that chip Kelly offense.

1619
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 4: Remember the year that Nick Foles played as a starting

1620
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 4: quarterback on the chip Kelly had twenty seven touchdowns only

1621
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 4: two interceptions.

1622
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: That happened.

1623
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Chip Kelly came back the next year and

1624
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, his numbers went right off the cliff.

1625
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 4: Well, I mean everyone studied what they did. They did

1626
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 4: a lot of shallow crosses and short crossing routes and

1627
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 4: play with pace and tempo and all that other stuff.

1628
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 4: And so Doug Peterson went in the lab that offseason,

1629
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 4: not that offseason, but prior to the postseason run and

1630
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 4: implemented a bunch of that stuff again. And then when

1631
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 4: he had to start the next year, when Carson Wentz

1632
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: was still dealing with the injuries, he did the same stuff.

1633
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 4: Others haven't been able to replicate that, but I could

1634
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 4: see where Nick Foles would have an opportunity to do that,

1635
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 4: and if he got a chance to get back with

1636
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson down the line, again, I can see them

1637
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 4: having success if he was a short term player who

1638
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 4: is a backup player behind Trevor Lawrence is somebody. Yeah,

1639
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 4: I could see that down the line.

1640
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 3: I could see him like an Earl Morale, like old school,

1641
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: you know, a guy that can still be a very

1642
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 3: effective backup for sure.

1643
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: I want the latest on Aaron Rodgers right now.

1644
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: First of all, he didn't exactly bring luck to the

1645
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 3: Knicks when he showed up at Madison Square Garden. It

1646
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: seems like he's trying to really entrench himself in the

1647
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: New York scene right now. Robert Salah, his coach, has

1648
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 3: been dismissing some comments have been attributed about, you know,

1649
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Once this Sas Gardner said, Hey, this guy's

1650
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 3: going to be make me a better player. But now

1651
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 3: that he is fully entrenched, apparently in the New York scene,

1652
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 3: is that going to be a factor at all in

1653
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 3: how he performs on the field for the Jets.

1654
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it'd be a factor in terms

1655
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 4: of he's already tried to build better rapport with his teammates.

1656
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 4: The chemistry and connectivity is everything. If you go and

1657
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 4: look at what he didn't do with green Bay last year,

1658
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 4: you could say that some of the reason for the

1659
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 4: slow star was his lack of connectivity with the White House.

1660
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 4: If he had poured this much into the young green

1661
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 4: Bay white House, the Packers probably would have had a

1662
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 4: better season. It's great that he's doing it there for

1663
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 4: the Jets, but we'll see if he can hold up

1664
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 4: his in of the deal when it comes down to play.

1665
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: All Right, we got much more NFL news We're going

1666
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 3: to get to in the next at our Our NFL

1667
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 3: insider Adam Kaplan will join us.

1668
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

1669
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1670
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1671
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1672
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: listen live. Well the Derby ever start?

1673
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 3: Will there ever be a start to this year's Kentucky Derby?

1674
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 3: Seven hours of pre show continue as we comed down

1675
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,080
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01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,440
Speaker 2: Exciting two minutes and sports.

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Speaker 3: I think sometime in this hour, I've been told we're

1683
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 3: actually gonna get the race underway. In the meantime, the

1684
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: Heat just continued to pour it on over the next

1685
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 3: ninety five seventy six, six minutes to go. The Heat's

1686
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 3: gonna take a two to one series. Is this series over?

1687
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: Do you see any.

1688
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 3: Scenario, Bucky of the Knicks coming back to win this series?

1689
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: They do have home court advantage, or had it before

1690
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: the season began, before the series began.

1691
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: Can the Knicks come back and win this series?

1692
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Knicks can still come back. I mean didn't

1693
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 4: Miami Heat had their way, but theyonna get a boost

1694
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 4: when they played at home, having all the energy of

1695
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 4: the home crowd kind of boosting them up. But you know,

1696
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 4: every game is his own game, and so the Knicks

1697
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 4: only need to win one to kind of shift the

1698
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 4: momentum back to New York and to have, you know,

1699
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 4: to regame home field. And so this might have been

1700
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 4: expected based on Miami playing a home but next game,

1701
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 4: Game four is the one where you get a chance

1702
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 4: to see. So now I would discount him, I won't

1703
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 4: count him out.

1704
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: I agree.

1705
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 3: I mean, the Knicks have a chance, obviously to come

1706
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 3: back in Game four, but this one has been very

1707
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 3: one sided from the opening tip, all in favor of

1708
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat. Later on a Courus, we'll have more

1709
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: on that Warriors Lakers matchup. That series tied at one,

1710
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: And keep in mind again game three in the Bests,

1711
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: the seventh series, the winner of game threes has gone

1712
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 3: on to win the series seventy five percent of the time. Hey,

1713
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to do We're talking a little bit in

1714
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 3: the last hour about Aaron Rodgers situation, sort of getting

1715
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 3: himself set in New York. Meanwhile, in Green Bay, they

1716
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: handed his locker to Sean Clifford. Now I'm trying to

1717
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: figure this out. Not only did he get the exact

1718
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: locker that Rogers had had all these years with the Packers,

1719
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 3: they also gave him the number eight, which is the

1720
01:22:54,640 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 3: number that Rogers is wearing with the Jets. Now, two

1721
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 3: things about Sean Clifford. A, does he have any future

1722
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 3: in the NFL? Because no, Jordan Love is, at least

1723
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 3: in the moment the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.

1724
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: And is that in any way I don't know.

1725
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 3: I mean, what did you make of that situation, handing

1726
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers locker to a rookie quarterback.

1727
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 4: I mean, look, here's the deal. Aaron Rodgers no longer there.

1728
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 4: I mean, we can talk about him, but we got

1729
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 4: to move on. And so this is not common. Whenever

1730
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 4: you play for a team, when you're cut, someone else

1731
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 4: eventually feels your locker. So Aaron Rodgers isn't there. There's

1732
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 4: no sacred cows in the locker room. You just don't

1733
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 4: glass up the locker and say, oh, the great Aaron

1734
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 4: Rodgers was here. He goes on someone else to get that.

1735
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 4: Eventually someone else may take his number. Who knows. I mean,

1736
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 4: but it is a part of the deal. So I

1737
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 4: don't make anything of it. They have Sean Clifford there

1738
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 4: because probably the way they have the locker room separated

1739
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 4: is you normally do it by positions, so you have

1740
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,839
Speaker 4: all the quarterbacks kind of sitting together. So Clifford is drafted,

1741
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 4: he's with the quarterbacks in the quarterback room, so he

1742
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 4: gets a locker right there with Aaronbrods. I'm sure it's

1743
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 4: not too far away from Jordan Love's locker.

1744
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 2: Is he any threat to Jordan Love?

1745
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 5: No, He's not a threat.

1746
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 4: But I think what's fascinating about Sean Clifford is everyone

1747
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 4: was excited about will Levis, Yes, right in the draft,

1748
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 4: talking about him as a top five pick, etc. He

1749
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 4: goes second round. Will Levis couldn't beat out Shan Clifford

1750
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 4: at Penn State three years there, he couldn't beat out

1751
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 4: Sean Clifford. Sean Clifford by some people would say like

1752
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 4: they would say, he's a very pedestrian type prospect.

1753
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 5: But here he is in the league.

1754
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 4: And so if will Levis deserves all the kudos, who

1755
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 4: being a second round pick? You got to baby, give

1756
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 4: Sean Clifford a chance. This is the Green Bay Packers

1757
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 4: and some of these other teams attempting to find their

1758
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 4: version abroad pretty and undervalue late round pick that turns

1759
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 4: out to be more than what you think based on

1760
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 4: his draft status.

1761
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I yeah, Sean Clifford was in one of those guys.

1762
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 3: I remember briefly he was mean hyped, you know, for

1763
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy and he just never got over the

1764
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 3: top of you know who else had a very similar

1765
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 3: career in college, Brock Party, you know, Brock Party at

1766
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 3: Iowa State was one of those guys that seemed to

1767
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: just sort of hit his peak. He didn't get even better,

1768
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: and his senior year was subpar, and he was downgraded

1769
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: all the way to the last pick of the draft.

1770
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: I think he shows up with the forty nine ers

1771
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 2: right place, right system.

1772
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, a little bit of that.

1773
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 4: So the one thing that everyone was chasing when it

1774
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 4: came to Brock Party was Brock Purty had significant experience.

1775
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 4: I think he started forty seven games at Iowa State.

1776
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 4: Record was thirty and seventeen. He shattered most of their

1777
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 4: offensive records at the quarterback position. So he was a look,

1778
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 4: he was a really good player for a team, and

1779
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 4: he also helped that team turn it around. And so

1780
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 4: there have been guys who had been kind of chasing

1781
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 4: that recipe in formula. Drria Thompson Robinson was a guy

1782
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 4: who benefited from the Brock Party thing because when you

1783
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 4: go and look at what he did at UCLA very

1784
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 4: similar and comparable to what Brock Perdy did at Iowa State.

1785
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 5: You talked about Sean Clifford, and so.

1786
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, six years at Penn State Sean Clifford.

1787
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: In fact, I'm looking at his numbers here, all time

1788
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 3: Penn State record quarterback wins, thirty two touchdown passes, passing

1789
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 3: six years.

1790
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: He was at Penn State six years.

1791
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: Nice and nice and experience, nice and experience. We just

1792
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 4: talked about playoff experience and basketball. That experience as a

1793
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 4: college player will matter. It certainly helped Rock Predy in

1794
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 4: some fast and I'm sure it may help some of

1795
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 4: these other guys. But everyone was chasing that coming off

1796
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 4: of Rock Preddy playing as well as he did in

1797
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 4: the seven game run.

1798
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 5: Everyone's looking for that.

1799
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 3: All right, bu Yeah, I've been meaning to talk to

1800
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 3: you now. We were talking earlier about Kevin Wart as

1801
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: wired ERPs or everything else. At any point of your life,

1802
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 3: where you William Brooks, Willie Brooks, will Brooks, Billy Brooks,

1803
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,759
Speaker 3: Bill Brooks, are we always Bucky Brooks?

1804
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 5: I was always.

1805
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: I was always Bucky Brooks always, I was never always.

1806
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 3: So no one in your family ever called you you're

1807
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 3: born because your my dad was a William, And there's

1808
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: any ways to go with that. You go will William, Willie, Billy,

1809
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 3: you know Bill, But you were always.

1810
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 4: Bucky, always, Bucky always Bucky, no Bills, no Billies, No, yeah,

1811
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 4: none of that. I played with guys who had similar

1812
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 4: names and they went by. In fact, in Buffalo my

1813
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 4: rookie season, I had my entire name on the back

1814
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,480
Speaker 4: of our jersey, Bucky Brooks because I played.

1815
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 3: With Bill Brooks, right remember, yeah, yeah, he.

1816
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 4: Played for the Indianapolis Coast, but he was with the

1817
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills when I got there, and so it was

1818
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 4: Bill Brooks and Bucky Brooks.

1819
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 5: So no, I never had that moniker, but there have

1820
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 5: been others were the same name.

1821
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 3: They take it on any always like being a Bucky, Yeah,

1822
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 3: I always like being a b always. I was just

1823
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: we were just talking about, you know, nicknames that sometimes

1824
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 3: you're just given a nickname and then you know at

1825
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 3: some point, yeah, who.

1826
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 5: Was Sometimes you outgrowing and stuff like that.

1827
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: But for me, keeps you a kid, keeps you young, right, Yes.

1828
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 5: That's that's a great way to look at That's a

1829
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 5: great way. That's a great way to look at it.

1830
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 3: All right. I want to jump back to this Lakers

1831
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 3: Warriors series because I know you're like me, we can't

1832
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: wait to see this Game three of the series and

1833
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 3: very anxious to year I was We're going to see

1834
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 3: the Anthony Davis had had thirty six and thirty seven

1835
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 3: and twenty three in the first game or eleven and

1836
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 3: seven in the second game. I'm just I'm trying to

1837
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: figure out, because you have to understand this. I'm watching

1838
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,919
Speaker 3: these games with my son, who is like the ultimate

1839
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 3: Lakers fan, like he lives and breeze Lakers Basketball twenty

1840
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: four to seven. And if you think I'm a talker,

1841
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 3: you've never met my son. I mean, he can just

1842
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 3: talk and talk and talk. It's like one note over

1843
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 3: and over again talking about this Lakers team.

1844
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: What can you do?

1845
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what what can the players do? What can

1846
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 3: the coaches do? What can Anthony Davis do to find

1847
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 3: that sense of urgency? Or because we were talking about

1848
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 3: this earlier with Golden State, where maybe you just pick

1849
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 3: your sp right, you're Anthony Davis.

1850
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: We got the win we.

1851
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: Needed to get home court advantage back. Based on his

1852
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 3: up and down ledgers so far in this postseason, we

1853
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 3: would expect Anthony Davis to come up big in Game three.

1854
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 3: But the idea of turning it on and turning it

1855
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: off when you deem it necessary, is that conducive to

1856
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 3: winning championships.

1857
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 4: No, and I don't think it was necessarily a thing

1858
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 4: about him turning it on and off. I think the

1859
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 4: big thing is everyone has to make a concerted effort

1860
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 4: to get Anthony Davis off to a good start. And

1861
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 4: so that has to be Darbnham calling plays for Davis

1862
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 4: to touch the ball a ton It has to be

1863
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis being intentional when it comes to his aggressiveness,

1864
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 4: trying to hunt for a shot. And then it's Lebron

1865
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 4: James also looking for opportunities to help his teammate his

1866
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 4: counterpart get off. And then because the one thing we

1867
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 4: know about Lebron, Lebron can always turn off his game whenever,

1868
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 4: even at an older age, he still can get involved.

1869
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 4: He has a way of working his way into the game.

1870
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: AD may not be the same, and so everyone has

1871
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 4: to know that. You kind of talk about like AD,

1872
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 4: we need AD to be big, and everyone talks about it.

1873
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I would expect it's gonna be a

1874
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: big game. I really do believe, and I will say

1875
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 3: it right now. Who wins Game three of this series

1876
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 3: tonight will ultimately win this series and move on to

1877
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals. So as the Lakers Warriors. Whoever

1878
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: wins Game three ultimately is going to get on to

1879
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals. All right, we're gonna catch up

1880
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 3: on a lot of NFL news post draft. Adam Kaplan,

1881
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 3: our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider will join us. Coming

1882
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 3: up next, Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday,

1883
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 3: and we are coming you live from the Tyraq dot

1884
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 3: com studios.

1885
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 7: Breaking news from Fox Sports.

1886
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, this is coming from ESPN as Bronni James, the

1887
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 11: son of lebron James, has just committed to us.

1888
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: See, well that's not really a surprise.

1889
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 3: I mean, growing up in the southern California area, Sierra Canyon.

1890
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about Bronnie James, Kevin, thank you for

1891
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 3: that update there. I don't know how much of Bronnie

1892
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,839
Speaker 3: you've seen play, Bucky, but people that just hear Bronnie

1893
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 3: James assume that he's a mere image of his father.

1894
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 3: He couldn't be further removed from his father. He's a

1895
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 3: six foot, two hundred and seventy pound guard, a shooting guard.

1896
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 5: Now.

1897
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of shooter he's been. I've

1898
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 3: seen his name all over the map. In terms of

1899
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 3: evaluating his level of talent, but he's clearly not his father.

1900
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 3: If this guy's going to make it, it's going to

1901
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 3: have to be an absolute lights out shooter. Now, I

1902
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 3: remember again my former partner Michael Thompson insisting that his

1903
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 3: son Clay was going to be that kind of player,

1904
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 3: and very few people believe that. And he's turned out

1905
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 3: to be a Hall of Fame player at the NBA level.

1906
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 3: But that's who Bronnie James is. And I know lebron

1907
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: has had this. He's talked openly he would love some

1908
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 3: day for the opportunity to play alongside his son.

1909
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Would father would not.

1910
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 3: But from what I've been hearing with but Bronnie the

1911
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 3: idea that he's some kind of one and done guy.

1912
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 2: He may choose to be.

1913
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 3: A one undone guy, but if he has that kind

1914
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 3: of talent, a lot's gonna have to happen in his

1915
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 3: one year at least at the University of Southern California.

1916
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 4: Maybe so, But I understand why Brianni would play at USC.

1917
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 4: You think about the brand of USC, You think about

1918
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 4: being local so your dad can see you, yep, play

1919
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 4: each and every one of your home games. You're up

1920
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 4: and down the West Coast, he'd have an opportunity to

1921
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 4: go in there and get major minutes immediately, and then

1922
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 4: when it comes to his prospects for the league, we'll

1923
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 4: see what that plays out. But in the immediacy, what

1924
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 4: he needed he needed to play a ton, He needed exposure.

1925
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 4: He had to have an opportunity to be elevated. And

1926
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 4: so now, look, there'd be a lot of odds on

1927
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 4: usse you can guarantee that they're gonna be on TV

1928
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 4: a ton and so it works for everyone one and

1929
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 4: we'll see how it goes. But I mean, it has

1930
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 4: to be a level of excitement locally for Lebron's son

1931
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 4: to stay local and play at one of the big soools.

1932
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 3: In LA Absolutely, so Bronnie James makes the verbal commitment

1933
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 3: he will go to USC all right joining us right now,

1934
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 3: as he so graciously does every single week to break

1935
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 3: down the National Football League right now post draft. Adam Kaplan,

1936
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 3: our Fox Sports rader NFL Insider is joining us, so

1937
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 3: Adam earlier Buccan and now we're talking about six thousand yards.

1938
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson has lofty goals now that he has that

1939
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 3: lofty salary he's collecting from the Ravens. But when we

1940
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,839
Speaker 3: talk about Agilar, we talk about Beckham, we talk about

1941
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:46,799
Speaker 3: your rookie. Did they really add that much wide receiver

1942
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 3: talent to give us the thought that they're going to

1943
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 3: show a completely different priority in the way they run

1944
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 3: their offense in twenty twenty three, Well.

1945
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 13: The offense is going to go through Lamar feed. He's

1946
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 13: still going to run and that's there are gonna be

1947
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 13: a run based offense. That's what John Harball wants. But

1948
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 13: maybe average carries per game goes down. Todd Monkin, who's

1949
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 13: their new offense coordinator, he is known for the passing game,

1950
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 13: not the run game. So there's going to be a

1951
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 13: change here in terms of the play caller from Greg Roman,

1952
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 13: who is one of the better run game designers in

1953
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 13: the NFL, but wasn't so much for the pass game.

1954
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 13: So things will change in that respect, but they're still

1955
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 13: going to be run based. Now getting to your point

1956
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 13: about Beckham, Look, nobody knows about Beckham. Talking to teams

1957
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 13: arount his workout. He looked really good, but that was

1958
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 13: just a workout. He's had two ACL injuries to the

1959
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 13: same knee. That's very worrisome. He's now over thirty years old.

1960
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 13: Rashaan Baben's come back from the lyft frank injury. They

1961
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 13: believe he'll be ready for training camp. You mentioned Za Flowers,

1962
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 13: the first round pick, will be their primary slot receiver,

1963
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 13: and you add Nelson Aguiler, who can line up anywhere,

1964
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 13: so they're better there. They've got a very deep and

1965
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 13: diverse tight end group. So Steve, this offense is going

1966
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 13: to be better in terms of pass targets guys who

1967
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 13: could catch the football, but it's still going.

1968
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 5: To be run based. You know.

1969
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 4: When thinking about that, let's go back to the contract

1970
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 4: and then it's all said and done. Were you surprised

1971
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 4: with Lamar Jackson negotiating on behalf of himself that he

1972
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 4: was able to get the kind of money and the

1973
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 4: guarantees and the no trade clauses and all those things

1974
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 4: that he was able to get without the assistance of

1975
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 4: a real represented.

1976
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, well, now I would tell you the

1977
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 13: NFLP has understand it helped him. He had people he'd

1978
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 13: attorney advising them. The NFLP advised him, But yeah, he he

1979
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 13: and Erked Akotsa, the GM certainly have developed this relationship

1980
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 13: where there's somewhat of a trust with each other, and

1981
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,719
Speaker 13: I give both sides credit.

1982
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 6: Lamar is guarantee he was very good at signing.

1983
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 13: Really, I mean way better, way better than Jalen Hurt

1984
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 13: Scott and Jalen Hurts. The sort of a team friendly

1985
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 13: deal though it's got a good structure, but still a

1986
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 13: little bit more team friendly. And you know it's good

1987
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 13: because I mentioned Monk and I know for the Ravens

1988
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 13: they really wanted Lamar to be in here early with

1989
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 13: Todd Monkin and learn this offense, which because if you

1990
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 13: would have if he was not here by mid June,

1991
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 13: he'd have to wait to train a camp. But that's

1992
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 13: really not what you want because you have Beckham Junior

1993
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 13: whose news A Flowers is new Bateman won't be ready

1994
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 13: till train a camp. So you really want to get

1995
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 13: Nelson Ackley. You really want to get him acclimated with

1996
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 13: this new offense. And the terminology is going to change

1997
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 13: as well as I understand it. So there's some challenges here.

1998
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 3: Well, we knew that with Aaron Rodgers joining the Jets,

1999
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 3: he was going to get a whole lot more attention

2000
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 3: just playing in the city in New York. By the way,

2001
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 3: the Knicks wish he hadn't shown up at Madison Square

2002
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 3: Guarden the other night when they lose that game. But

2003
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Robert sala is just having to

2004
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 3: answer one question, hypothetical questions about wish demands and everything

2005
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 3: else with Aaron Rodgers.

2006
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: The fact that Rodgers has.

2007
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 3: Really jumped in with both feet on the New York

2008
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 3: sports scene and just the whole atmosphere in New York.

2009
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 2: How does that play out?

2010
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand him trying to entrench himself with

2011
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 3: his teammates, but the idea of fully inhaling all of

2012
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 3: New York all at once? Could this have any adverse

2013
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 3: effect on the Jets and Aaron Rodgers.

2014
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 13: Well, he's a big sports guy, Steve. You know he

2015
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 13: was I think for the Bucks. I think he was

2016
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 13: a minority owner. Yep, he's a big sports guy. There's

2017
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 13: no question about it. Yeah, it is really interesting, he said.

2018
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 13: The hockey playoffs, Yep, nix and that was good to see. No,

2019
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 13: what's going to happen is let's say there's a gain,

2020
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 13: and it's going to happen. Nobody's perfect. He's going to

2021
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 13: have a game where he doesn't play as well, or

2022
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 13: the offense looks bad and this is where the New

2023
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 13: York media can be difficult. And we're gonna we're going

2024
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 13: to learn a lot about going from a small market

2025
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 13: to a big market. That's on your question. That's that's

2026
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 13: just to be expected. It's going to happen. We know

2027
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 13: it's going to happen. It's unavoidable. Nobody plays perfect every game,

2028
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 13: and you know the expectations are there obviously that they

2029
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 13: make the playoffs sudden. They have not done since the

2030
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 13: twenty ten season. And I can just tell you talking

2031
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 13: to people with the Jets, just Roger's presence. And it's

2032
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 13: not a shot at Zach Wilson. It's just when you

2033
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 13: have a guy who's going to be Hall of Fame quarterback,

2034
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 13: there's just something. Bucky knows this from being a player

2035
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 13: and also working the club side. There's something about being

2036
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 13: around a special le talent and he elevates everybody around you.

2037
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 13: It's hard to describe just from talking to coaches who've

2038
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 13: been around quarterbacks like this and executive so there's just

2039
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 13: something that this guy brings to the building. Now, so far,

2040
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 13: so good, but we're really not going to get a

2041
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 13: real idea till training camp when he's able to practice

2042
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 13: with all these guys.

2043
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 4: So here's the thing I know that Green Bay has

2044
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 4: tried to kind of turn the page on this. Was

2045
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 4: there a sense of frustration at all when you look

2046
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 4: at what Aaron Rodgers has done in New York, jumping

2047
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 4: in getting with the young teammates, the young wide receivers,

2048
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 4: that he didn't pour into the young guys last year

2049
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 4: in the offseason like this, Well.

2050
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 13: He now Rogers did say, Bucky, he's only going to

2051
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 13: be there for half the offseason, but hey, that's that's something.

2052
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 6: So that's good. And plus he's with all these new

2053
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 6: teammates now.

2054
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 13: You know, I could tell you talking to someone with

2055
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 13: the Packers, they're super excited about Jordan Love, Like, this

2056
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 13: is a guy and it was a surprise obviously when

2057
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 13: they drafted him in twenty twenty in the first round,

2058
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 13: that in fact that the Packers had much higher great

2059
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 13: than most teams.

2060
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 6: You know, we haven't really talked about that before.

2061
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 13: This is not a guy that a lot of teams like,

2062
01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 13: but they really like this kid and his off season

2063
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 13: last year. The sort of the light went on with

2064
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 13: the West Coast offense, and you mentioned him not being

2065
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 13: Aaron Rodgers being around that probably helped him.

2066
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 5: Now.

2067
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 13: The only thing with the Packers, we talked about the

2068
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,560
Speaker 13: draft last week, but we didn't really talk about what

2069
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 13: the Packers were dealing with here. They do not have

2070
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 13: one veteran tight end or one veteran receiver, so they're

2071
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 13: very young. They're a bunch of first and second year

2072
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 13: players at both positions. It's a little bit worrisome. It's

2073
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 13: great to sort of grow up with these players like

2074
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 13: leve Will be able to sort of get to know

2075
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 13: these guys in the early part of their career, but

2076
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 13: they're all of a sudden now gone all the veteran

2077
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 13: guys around him, so that that's something to watch in

2078
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 13: training camp.

2079
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 3: So I had him. I'm looking at buckis Home, their

2080
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 3: NFL dot com, and they were rather harsh most of

2081
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 3: the teams in terms of what they did in the

2082
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 3: NFL Draft. They didn't give out a lot of hard grades,

2083
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 3: sort of like my professors at UCLA. They were always

2084
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 3: tough on me for some reason. So, now that you've

2085
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 3: had a few days to inhale the draft, was this

2086
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,799
Speaker 3: just a draft void of a lot of imp players

2087
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 3: or how did you evaluate the overall haul of players

2088
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 3: taking in this year's NFL draft.

2089
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's actually Steve. The latter is really the issue

2090
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 13: coming into the draft. Just talking to personnel people, some

2091
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 13: general managers, coaches and everyone who watched the tape, there

2092
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 13: were really only two elite players for this draft. Jalen Carter,

2093
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 13: who dropped a nine to the Eagles, dude offseason off

2094
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 13: the field issues. And the guy went right before in

2095
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 13: Bejon Robinson. And honestly the b Jon Robinson going to

2096
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 13: Atlanta that that I get why they did it. They

2097
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 13: want to run the football and that's fine, but the

2098
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 13: relative value for running back is just not there. He's

2099
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 13: really elite, but the league does not value running backs

2100
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 13: anymore like they used to when I first started coming

2101
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 13: to the league in two thousand. But the shocker was

2102
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 13: what Detroit did. They drafted two very good players. That's

2103
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 13: not the point. The point is that the relative value

2104
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 13: of an inside linebacker. Jack Campbell's terrific, but again he's

2105
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 13: not pass rusher. And Jamior Gibbs, who's not in every

2106
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 13: down back. And remember they said they brought in David

2107
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 13: Montgomery for six million a year. That was definitely surprising.

2108
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 13: That was the Those are the two moves that kind.

2109
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 6: Of floored me.

2110
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:07,719
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, Have you heard anything quickly?

2111
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 4: Because this mini camp with Anthony Richson up in Indianapolis

2112
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 4: just a freak show that not only he is, but

2113
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 4: that the Indianapolis drafted a bunch of athletic freaks. Has

2114
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 4: there been any conversation about how Chris Ballin and know

2115
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 4: those guys have gone for traits over I guess proven

2116
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,679
Speaker 4: production at these positions in the last couple of drafts.

2117
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 6: They know this bucket.

2118
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 5: It's funny.

2119
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 13: I think I wrote for my market Pro Football Network

2120
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 13: dot Com that you Chris Ballard is so conservative. I

2121
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,560
Speaker 13: know he hates that Moniker. He just doesn't like it

2122
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 13: because he you know, he's not very aggressive in free agency.

2123
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 13: He's a draft guy. He's a draft and developed guy.

2124
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 13: And I was a stun I mean that the draft Richardson,

2125
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 13: I loved it because he's an exciting player. But you're

2126
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 13: talking about, yeah, he's a trades player. He only started

2127
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 13: one year. So that called fans who listened to us today,

2128
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 13: they're gonna have to be patient. It's not gonna happen overnight.

2129
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 13: In fact, show closer Guarder Mitchell told me that a

2130
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 13: big reason why Mintschew signed there is that if they

2131
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 13: draft for Richardson, which they did, at least Minshew might

2132
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 13: have a chance to start this season, which I think

2133
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 13: realistically the questions are going to be one, will Richeson play.

2134
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 13: He's going to play the season? He's going to be

2135
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 13: week one, week five. We ten they don't know that,

2136
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 13: but they're not going to rush it. I know that

2137
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 13: because they know he needs a lot of work.

2138
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 3: All Right, One final question with your ties to the

2139
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 3: Eagles organization, Bucking and Nower. We're talking about the Colts

2140
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 3: deciding to release Nick Foles. No surprise there, but we question,

2141
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 3: how is it that Nick Foles could have that early

2142
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 3: run with Chip Kelly, that twenty seven touchdown two interception

2143
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 3: season and later obviously have that tremendous run culminated with

2144
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 3: him being Super Bowl MVP. Why couldn't we see more

2145
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 3: of that Nick Foles over the course of his NFL career?

2146
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 5: All Right?

2147
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 13: Two things. It was a gimmick system that Chip Kelly ran.

2148
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 13: The NFL didn't know what to do with it when

2149
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 13: he first got in there twenty thirteen. As he saw

2150
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 13: that the year two and then year three when Chip

2151
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 13: got fired it changed, But I'm going to bring you

2152
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 13: inside a conversation I had. I'll never forget this the

2153
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 13: guy I'm about to talk about to now at GM.

2154
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 13: So I'm in the press box in twenty thirteen and

2155
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:09,839
Speaker 13: I'm sitting next to a guy who's in pro personnel

2156
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 13: for a team, and we were just talking about Nick

2157
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 13: Foles and said, man, how about this Nick falls He

2158
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 13: might looks like.

2159
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 6: He's on his way to being a really good quarterback.

2160
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 5: He was, Now he's not.

2161
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 6: He goes, He'll show who he really was. He goes,

2162
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 6: he goes.

2163
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 13: My team had a fifth round grade on him. That's

2164
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 13: who he is. He's not that good. And it's like, wow, really,

2165
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,639
Speaker 13: he goes. It's the offense. It's not the player. And guys,

2166
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 13: that was ten years ago, and I think that guy

2167
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 13: who's now a gam was right, if you play the

2168
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 13: right offense. And now now I want to give false

2169
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 13: credit one of the all time runs in playoff history,

2170
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 13: the two game set against Minnesota, then the Super Bowl

2171
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:42,759
Speaker 13: against New England.

2172
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 6: I mean, it was just incredible. But Nick was never

2173
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 6: that talented.

2174
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 13: He was, Remember he got that enormous contract with that

2175
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 13: Jackwarts broke his collarbone in the first game, so he

2176
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 13: never was quite as good as people thought he was.

2177
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 2: You think Doug Peterson will pick him up as a backup.

2178
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 13: I think when you look at the situation there. They

2179
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 13: did sign c. J. Bether back. They thought he could

2180
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 13: be a good backup quarterback. I don't know about that,

2181
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 13: but he is. He is definitely near the Aniams car.

2182
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 13: He really struggled, Let's be honest with about it. He

2183
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 13: was really strog. He struggled badly with the Colts last

2184
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 13: year when he had to play. And as I understand,

2185
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 13: I was told a couple months ago they made a

2186
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 13: decision he would not be back. They just they were

2187
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 13: figured ou when they were going to do it. And

2188
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 13: again they signed Minshew absolutely to be the number two quarterback.

2189
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,600
Speaker 3: All right, Well, as always, Adam, we appreciate it.

2190
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 2: No fluke here.

2191
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan is at the top of his game and

2192
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 3: he always will be. Adam will talk to you next week.

2193
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, guys, Thank you Adam Kaplan or Fox

2194
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 3: Sports Radio, NFL insight. He agrees with you, Bucky. I mean,

2195
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 3: it was a system and as you brilliantly put out,

2196
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson unleashed the old Chip Kelly system resumed it

2197
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 3: for Nick Foles just in time for that magical playoff run.

2198
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 3: So it's not like he's going to get I mean,

2199
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 3: he's always going to be a Super Bowl MVP right

2200
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 3: alway and over forever and ever. I mean, you can

2201
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 3: never take that away from him. All Right, let's find

2202
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 3: out what is trending right now, as Kevin Wyart is

2203
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 3: back with a fold. All right, So we had the

2204
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 3: breaking news earlier about Bronnie James.

2205
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 11: So yeah, Bronnie James committing to usc that was the

2206
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 11: big news that dropped about twenty thirty minutes ago. So yes,

2207
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 11: spurning the Bruins, the big basketball school in southern California,

2208
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 11: in favor of the traditional football powerhousle. Though usc and

2209
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 11: basketball has been trying to rise up to UCLA's level lately.

2210
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 2: Well, they've had good teams.

2211
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 3: They I mean they you know, and they've had some

2212
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 3: good players that obviously we've seen have success at the

2213
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 3: NBA level. I just the thing about having a kid

2214
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 3: like Bronnie James and the fold is if you don't

2215
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,679
Speaker 3: think he's ready to start or can't you know, really

2216
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:47,759
Speaker 3: contribute early, you're going to keep him on the bench.

2217
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 3: You know, with Lebron sitting there saying, hey, why is

2218
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 3: my kid in the game? Maybe maybe I hope the

2219
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 3: kids have been gonna have great success.

2220
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 11: I would hope that this is something that's been talked

2221
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 11: about too, Yeah, between coaching staff and Lebron, just so,

2222
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:03,560
Speaker 11: because that wouldn't be good for the program.

2223
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 7: As a whole.

2224
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 11: I mean he as a coach, you got to determine

2225
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 11: what's best for your team without having someone, regardless of

2226
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 11: how high profile he is, voicing.

2227
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 7: His opinion that is contrary to win.

2228
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 2: How many how many Instagram followers does he have?

2229
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 3: It's crazy though, I mean he's already a name, image

2230
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 3: of likeness, been raking in millions, So I don't know,

2231
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 3: it just seems like there'll be a little pressure on

2232
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 3: sc to give him the opportunity to show his stuff.

2233
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 11: Well, the last guy that was proclaimed to be the

2234
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:29,719
Speaker 11: next Lebron James that went to USC was Oj Mayo,

2235
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 11: if I recall that that is.

2236
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 2: Correct, Oj Mayo, But he wasn't Bronnie James.

2237
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 7: No, he wasn't Bronny James. But they did call him

2238
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 7: the next Lebron James.

2239
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 2: Going into that, he's gonna get plenty of eyeballs, that's

2240
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 2: for sure.

2241
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 11: Eastern Conference Playoffs semi Finals Game three was tied at

2242
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 11: one apiece and no longer tied as the Miami Heat.

2243
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 11: This game was over a long time ago. It was

2244
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 11: the Heat all the way. They led wire to wire.

2245
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 11: Jimmy Butler was cleared before the game started. He got

2246
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 11: the first basket and he just took off from there,

2247
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 11: winning yet going away one oh five to eighty six.

2248
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 11: Jimmy Butler had twenty eight points off nine to twenty

2249
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 11: one shooting, but also was ten of eleven from the

2250
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 11: free throw line. Get this the Knicks for the game

2251
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 11: thirty one of ninety one shooting from the field, just

2252
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 11: eight to forty from beyond the three point line. An

2253
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 11: absolute struggle. As a Julius Randall four to fifteen shooting

2254
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 11: from the field for just ten points. He really struggled

2255
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 11: today for the Knicks. Next game coming up will be

2256
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 11: the Western Conference Semifinals Game three between the Warriors and Lakers.

2257
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 11: That one's also tied at one one. Tip off for

2258
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 11: that set for eight thirty Eastern. We're about only ten

2259
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 11: minutes away from the start of the Kentucky Derby set

2260
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 11: for six forty five Eastern time. Earlier this morning, Forte

2261
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 11: was scratched. He was the betting favorite, but he was

2262
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 11: scratched after a workout earlier this morning in which trainers

2263
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 11: met with state veterinarians and the horse stumbled during a

2264
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 11: workout on Thursdays, believed to have a bruce footso atched

2265
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 11: them out of a series of out of a sense

2266
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 11: of precaution tap at Trice angel E Vampire. They were

2267
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 11: listed at nine to two odds. They're the betting favorites

2268
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 11: after four Tay's withdrawal and some sad news. It's been

2269
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 11: an issue leading up to this race where horses have

2270
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 11: been getting injured and have been having to get put

2271
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 11: down in Today we had a sixth horse, Chloe's Dream,

2272
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 11: a three year old had to be euthanized after getting

2273
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 11: injured in a pre Kentucky Derby race. So that's something

2274
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 11: they're really going to have to look into if they

2275
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 11: want to continue having these races going forward. And Major

2276
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 11: League Baseball action going on today, a couple of games

2277
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,759
Speaker 11: have gone final. They went ten innings and Saint Louis

2278
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 11: Tart Tiger's out lasting the Cardinals six to five. Cubs

2279
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 11: come from behind to beat the Marlins four to two,

2280
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 11: and a few games in action. Right now, they're at

2281
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 11: the end of the eighth inning in New York, Rockies

2282
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 11: leading the Mets five to two. At the end of

2283
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 11: the eighth In Tampa, it's the Yankees on top of

2284
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 11: the Rays three to two. They're just getting started. In Cleveland,

2285
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 11: Guardians and Twins are scoreless. Same for the Blue Jays

2286
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 11: and Pirates.

2287
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 5: Back of you.

2288
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much, Kevin, And you mentioned

2289
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 3: again this, by the way, where I'm watching here, this

2290
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 3: endless build up to the Derby, this seven hour pre

2291
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 3: race show, and the jockeys, I believe the jockeys that

2292
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 3: will participate in the one hundred and forty ninth running

2293
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 3: of the Derby are now walking to the track.

2294
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 2: So ockay, I think we're eventually going to get this race.

2295
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 3: This race may actually go off while we're on the air,

2296
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:40,879
Speaker 3: maybe maybe getting back to the Bronni the Bronnie James situation.

2297
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 2: So it's unbelievable.

2298
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 3: Andy Enfield has been at USC now for ten years,

2299
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 3: ten years since he had that magical run with Florida

2300
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 3: Gulf Coast to the Sweet sixteen and parlayed at into

2301
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 3: the USC job and he's been in the NCAA tournament

2302
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 3: five times. They had run to the Elite eight a

2303
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. But again, you're always are looking

2304
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 3: for star recruits, but this is this is as high

2305
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 3: profile high school recruit as there's ever been. I mean,

2306
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 3: we've been hearing about Bronnie James. I mean, doesn't it

2307
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 3: seem like he's been at Sierra Canyon for like ten years.

2308
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean I've been I've.

2309
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 3: Been listening for years and years and years, and now

2310
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 3: the time has finally come where he's going to go

2311
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 3: to USC. We know he has talent, no question, but

2312
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 3: he's a very different player than his father. He's a

2313
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 3: six to two shooting guard, not a you know, just

2314
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 3: a freak of nature like his father is. At six

2315
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 3: eight six nine. I mean, even when he was in

2316
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 3: high school, you're looking at Lebron James like, holy crap,

2317
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean, look at this guy.

2318
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 2: That is not the case with Bronnie James.

2319
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,839
Speaker 3: But if you're an infield, I mean, how much pressure

2320
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 3: is gonna be on you because he's going to be

2321
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 3: asked about Bronnie James constantly, especially being the USC is

2322
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, and Lebron James will be at the games,

2323
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 3: being that he of course plays for the Lakers.

2324
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 4: I mean, there's always kind of pressure when you're dealing

2325
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 4: with high profile guys, but I think you can take

2326
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 4: it a few different ways. If you're Indy infield, this

2327
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 4: is an opportunity for you to put your team in

2328
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 4: the major spotlight.

2329
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 5: So it's not only for what you.

2330
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 4: Have now with Briannie James, it's for the next collection

2331
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 4: of guys and how he handles the situation where Briani

2332
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 4: could open up for other stars to make their way

2333
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 4: to USC and so he doesn't have to do anything

2334
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 4: different given preferential treatment. But you handle it, and you know,

2335
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 4: you knew what you're you know what you're getting into

2336
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 4: when you decided to recruit Lebron's son, and so you

2337
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 4: have to understand all the lights and all the eyeballs

2338
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 4: and all the questions. But I think he's more than

2339
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 4: equipped to handle it.

2340
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2341
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 3: I remember the when the ball brothers all committed simultaneously

2342
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 3: to U C.

2343
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 1: L A.

2344
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 2: And of course, yeah, it was it was it was

2345
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 2: a package deal.

2346
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 5: It was a great day, great day for you, right.

2347
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was a great one season for

2348
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 3: a Lonzo because we never saw the other two ever

2349
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 3: play for UCLA, one because of circumstances in China and

2350
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 3: the other because well, by that time he had made

2351
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 3: his own way. But yeah, I mean there's something to

2352
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 3: be said about getting that kind of spotlight. Now that

2353
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,600
Speaker 3: one year, Lonzo Ball lived up to the hype. He

2354
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 3: was first team All American. They were an outstanding team

2355
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 3: that year, even overcame the fact that he had a

2356
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 3: horrible coach and Steve Alford and still had horrible coach,

2357
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 3: just horrible. You don't know my disdain for Steve Alford,

2358
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:37,639
Speaker 3: And well, I'm really it goes back to Bob Knight.

2359
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 3: You know, Bob Knight has been on record over and

2360
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 3: over and over again dismissing everything that John Wooden never

2361
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 3: did at UCLA, dismissing it because of Sam Gilbert and

2362
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:54,480
Speaker 3: as he deemed it, the buying of players that UCLA.

2363
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 3: Of course, he discounts the fact that there are a

2364
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 3: lot of great teams that have a lot of great players.

2365
01:52:58,760 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 2: They didn't all win.

2366
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 3: Ten champions and ships in a twelve year period. They

2367
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 3: didn't all win thirty eight consecutive nca eight tournament games.

2368
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 3: Think about that. You talk about all the records of

2369
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 3: Wooden thirty eight straight NCAA tournament games. The second longest

2370
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 3: streak is fourteen. But his association with Bob Knight, to me,

2371
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 3: just decute him from ever having even a breath of UCLA.

2372
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 3: And then he came to UCLA and then announced that

2373
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 3: coaching basketball is number three on his priority list. But

2374
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 3: you can't do that if you're at UCLA. So but no,

2375
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see how this Bronny thing plays out.

2376
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 3: You know, I think I look at I know that

2377
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 3: Lebron is probably I'm just getting a sense of him.

2378
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 3: He's going to do his best to stay out of

2379
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 3: the shadow. In the shadows, I can't see, you know,

2380
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 3: Lebron calling out Andy infield or anybody. He's just going

2381
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 3: to sit there like a dad should and just let

2382
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 3: it play out. I mean, if Bronni has that kind

2383
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 3: of talent, we're going to find out. If he doesn't,

2384
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 3: so be it.

2385
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,639
Speaker 4: We'll find out quickly. Oh yeah, And everyone will compare

2386
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 4: Bronni to his dad, and they have different games. Haven't

2387
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 4: watched him a time. My son used to watch him

2388
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 4: way back when he was playing AU and all the

2389
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 4: stuff that used to show up on YouTube and those

2390
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 4: things and he's always been the spotlight, and Lebron has

2391
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 4: always kind of been kind of cool when he's been

2392
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 4: around and stuff like that. And for the most part,

2393
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 4: in his own Lebron way, he'll stay out the way,

2394
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 4: but there'll still be a lot of spotlight on him

2395
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 4: because of the sun.

2396
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 3: And everyone wants to know, by the way, his younger

2397
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 3: brother is the one that's got Dad's size.

2398
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 5: Oh for sure, yeah, I mean everyone is excited. Yeah,

2399
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 5: it was excited about.

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01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 2: The young that is for sure.

2401
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 3: I always remember Michael Jordan speech of the Hall of

2402
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 3: Fame when he said to his kids, I wouldn't want

2403
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 3: to be you.

2404
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you remember that line.

2405
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean it is legit. It's a legit concern because, yeah,

2406
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 5: all the stuff that you have to live up to.

2407
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 3: Right, it's a lot o wow man.

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01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 5: All right?

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01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 3: Coming up on the other side, how will all play

2410
01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 3: out in terms of that Lakers Warriors game? And will

2411
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 3: we ever see the running of the derby? I see

2412
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 3: Patrick Maholmes now showing up. Well, they have brought out

2413
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 3: everybody for this derby? Will there actually be a race today?

2414
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,480
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01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:21,040
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Speaker 7: Butzer, that's absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 3: It was no contest today as the Heat blew out

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Speaker 3: the Knicks one oh five to eighty six to take

2426
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 3: a two to one series lead. There By the way,

2427
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to thank the crew today. Iowa Sam was

2428
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 3: here early. Chris always brings it up later. Kevin Wyert,

2429
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 3: who is not averse to wired erp as a nickname,

2430
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 3: providing all the updates, including the breaking news on Brownie

2431
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 3: James committing to USC and brand and our producer who,

2432
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 3: by the way, Brandon, are you predicting a Padre sweep

2433
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 3: of the Dodgers this weekend?

2434
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 12: I'm gonna play it safe here and say no.

2435
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 3: No is what you're predicting. According to Bucky Brooks, it

2436
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 3: won't matter. These games don't matter because it's one hundred

2437
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 3: and sixty two game season, having so one or two

2438
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 3: or even three games at this point of the season.

2439
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 3: Have you been down to Peco Park at all, Bucky.

2440
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 4: I have not had an opportunity to go down. You

2441
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 4: need to do the atmosphere. They get the best team

2442
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 4: money can buy. They got all these guys making all these.

2443
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 2: Well I'm just talking about the park atmosphere. Now on

2444
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 2: the field.

2445
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 3: Here's the thing in the USA today ranked all the

2446
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 3: ballparks in Major League Baseball and they said it's not

2447
01:56:56,120 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: even close. Pecko's the number one ballpark in the country.

2448
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 3: I mean the stadium itself is great. The food there,

2449
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 3: how key is food at a ballpark for you know everything?

2450
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 3: Oh they have they have a try Tip sandwich there.

2451
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 3: Now you think about try Tip right, And rich Ornberger

2452
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 3: had told me, he goes, this is the place to

2453
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 3: go at Peck go to get this. Either could get

2454
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 3: Try Tip nachos or the Tri Tip sandwich. As a

2455
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 3: turnout was there with my son.

2456
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 2: We got both.

2457
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 3: And you know, you look at something and you're like,

2458
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 3: looks it looks good, and then you take a bite

2459
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 3: and you're like, holy crap, like this is unba believable.

2460
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 3: So the food is great. Then of course you got

2461
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 3: the outside of the ballpark because it's right in the middle,

2462
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 3: you know of you know, the downtown area of San Diego.

2463
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 3: You got to get down there. You go down there

2464
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 3: with a fence, You're gonna absolutely have a good time.

2465
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 3: I promise you that, all right, So let's get back

2466
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 3: to some predictions right now. What do you Bucky Brooks

2467
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 3: expect to in tonight's matchup between the Warriors and the Lakers.

2468
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 4: A lot of energy from the Lakers early on. I

2469
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 4: expect Ad to be at his best right from the jump.

2470
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 4: They didn't get it to him. I wouldn't be surprised

2471
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 4: to see if the first four possessions run through him.

2472
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 4: Lebron James will play better, and so I think you'll

2473
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 4: see the Lakers jump out early, but it ended up

2474
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 4: being a close game later.

2475
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 5: But I expect the Lakers to win this. I expect

2476
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 5: the Lakers to.

2477
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 2: Win, all right.

2478
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 3: So I have already stated, do you back up my

2479
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 3: belief based on the track record of teams that win

2480
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 3: game three of the best of seven series seventy five

2481
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 3: percent going to win that series, that the winner of

2482
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 3: tonight's game will ultimately win the series between the Lakers

2483
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 3: and Warriors.

2484
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 5: Yes, tonight is everything.

2485
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 3: Tonight is critical.

2486
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, tonight is everything. It's critical, all right.

2487
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're a Lakers fan.

2488
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 3: Now, when you have a game like this, give me

2489
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 3: the setup for Bucky Brooks, right, I mean, are you alone?

2490
01:58:58,480 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 2: Are you watching with friends?

2491
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:00,040
Speaker 5: How? So?

2492
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 2: How are you watching this game?

2493
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 4: So, because I don't have a vested interest in terms

2494
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 4: of either one of these teams are not my team,

2495
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 4: I'm a Miami Heat fan, and so I will watch

2496
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 4: it at three routgi just kind of chill out, watch it,

2497
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 4: see what's going on, but nothing, nothing heavy. I love

2498
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 4: watching playoff basketball because I love seeing how people respond

2499
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 4: to pressure, and so all the pressure being on Ad tonight,

2500
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 4: I want to see how he responds. Because the best

2501
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 4: have a way of kind of turning their taking their

2502
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 4: game up a notch when it's required. This should be

2503
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 4: the chance that we have a This should be the

2504
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 4: opportunity for us to see Ad at his best.

2505
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 5: He needs to be at his best. All right.

2506
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 2: So your heat guy, which is why you're very happy

2507
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 2: right now, the heat rolling.

2508
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 3: All right. So, but I know you have a lot

2509
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:44,840
Speaker 3: of admiration for Lebron James and Steph Curry. So when

2510
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 3: you have two of the greatest stars in the history

2511
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 3: of the game, and really, to me, the two most

2512
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 3: marketable names still in the NBA, who would you rather

2513
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 3: see it have a big game tonight? Would it be

2514
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 3: Lebron or Steph?

2515
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 5: He saw Steph have a big one last time, so

2516
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:03,000
Speaker 5: it's time for Lebron to have a big one.

2517
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 3: A big one one of those twenty two I don't

2518
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 3: think he's had a thirty point game yet in the playoffs.

2519
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 3: He had the twenty twenty game. Remember that twenty twenty game,

2520
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 3: which he had never did before.

2521
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

2522
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 3: I think I like the Lakers. As far as picking

2523
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 3: a winner in the derby, I don't know they're ever

2524
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 3: going to run this race. Call me when they actually

2525
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 3: get off and running. This is Fox Sports Radio.