WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 5

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst. Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>we already have a college football upset.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, big college football weekend started last night. UMass with

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<v Speaker 4>the upset of Rutgers. We feel like UMass football today.

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<v Speaker 4>The head coach of UMass, a half an hour away

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<v Speaker 4>on this show.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny? We booked him weeks ago, too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you called it. You said, we've got to get

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<v Speaker 4>this guy on in case he takes Rutgers.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, they broke a 16-game losing streak, but

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<v Speaker 5>that's incredible. Let's start, though, on the other end of

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<v Speaker 5>the college football spectrum, Paul. Down in Louisiana. LSU apparently

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<v Speaker 5>found a friendly judge. The case was about players who'd

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<v Speaker 5>been in NFL camps wanting to come back to college football.

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<v Speaker 5>And yesterday, a judge ruled that they will be allowed,

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<v Speaker 5>including two players, Daquan Wright and Xavier Harris, transferring from

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<v Speaker 5>Ole Miss to LSU.

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<v Speaker 3>Could play this weekend. There's still some time.

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<v Speaker 5>Daquan Wright spoke outside the courthouse after the ruling and

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<v Speaker 5>said what he's looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>Just putting on a college uniform again and going out

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<v Speaker 2>there and having fun and embracing my opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't be able to play until next Saturday, right?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really clear on everything, but I hope it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be this Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the reason it's dark out is because the case

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<v Speaker 4>ended at 9 o'clock at night. The news broke 9

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<v Speaker 4>o'clock last night. Lane Kiffin and LSU 1-0 on the

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<v Speaker 4>season in the courtroom so far. But this is one

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<v Speaker 4>of those things, I'm not 100% sure this one's over.

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<v Speaker 4>The SEC has been pretty quiet the past 12 hours

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<v Speaker 4>on this story, and as we sit right now, those

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<v Speaker 4>players are playing for LSU and possibly a couple other colleges.

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<v Speaker 4>But it wouldn't surprise me if Greg Sankey says, let's

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<v Speaker 4>rally our lawyers and find a courtroom to injunct your injunction.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Greg Sankey is not a guy who waves a

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<v Speaker 4>white flag. He doesn't own a white flag. I could

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<v Speaker 4>see this having another turn, not before we get off air,

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<v Speaker 4>but before tonight's games start.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think the players made a powerful case, though.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually changed my mind in the middle of the case.

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<v Speaker 5>They came into the court and said, we didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to go to NFL training camps. If we knew we

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<v Speaker 5>were allowed to go back to college football, we would

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<v Speaker 5>have done that. This is all about the class of 22.

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<v Speaker 5>It's an exception. So I think the players probably have

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<v Speaker 5>the right to play. I don't think Daquan Wright was

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<v Speaker 5>going to try out for a team. I think he

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<v Speaker 5>would be at LSU under normal circumstances.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a complex story because it's about fairness. In

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<v Speaker 4>that 2022 class, and we don't want to get too

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<v Speaker 4>much in the weeds, they kind of got treated differently

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<v Speaker 4>than other classes, and their eligibility was not taken from

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<v Speaker 4>them but not given back to them in the same way.

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<v Speaker 4>But it should have been done in June. It should

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<v Speaker 4>have been done in July and wrapped up. What bothers people,

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<v Speaker 4>the average American sports fan, is like, how can you

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<v Speaker 4>go from a pro roster back to college? And they're

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<v Speaker 4>holding on to shreds of amateurism.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that is going to be the exception. We

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<v Speaker 3>went over the numbers. Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Basically, one out of every 700 FBS players will have

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<v Speaker 5>been in the NFL or tried out for the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not going to be a rash of guys

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<v Speaker 5>coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>But this story has become the most famous coach in

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<v Speaker 4>the conference, Lane Kiffin, now that Lane Saban's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Versus the SEC. And the SEC versus their new head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>I know he was at Ole Miss last year, but

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<v Speaker 4>this is a wild situation. So laying Kiffin in the

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<v Speaker 4>SEC as a side soap opera inter-conference is the most

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<v Speaker 4>SEC thing ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know what I like too, Paul? LSU's

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<v Speaker 3>playing Clemson this week. Is this the ultimate new school team?

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<v Speaker 5>LSU, 48 transfers, arguably the best transfer class in the

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<v Speaker 5>entire country. One of the richest transfer classes against Clemson.

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<v Speaker 5>who fought the whole system. You know, Dabo Sweeney doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>want transfers. He doesn't want to pay NIL. Now he's

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<v Speaker 5>come around begrudgingly. So I think this is a battle.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to say good versus evil because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not sure who's good and who's evil.

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<v Speaker 4>It's old school, new school.

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<v Speaker 3>Old school, new school.

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<v Speaker 4>Dabo's a dial-up internet guy. He's a MySpace guy. He

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<v Speaker 4>wants to live in 1977, but it's not that anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Dabo Sweeney and Clemson was dominating college football 8, 9,

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<v Speaker 4>10 years ago. And he didn't keep up with the times.

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<v Speaker 4>Lane Kiffin doesn't just keep up with the times. He

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<v Speaker 4>tries to find what the next opportunity to get players is.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is an opportunity for Dabo. I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>about a 10, 10.5 point underdog right now, Clemson. But

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<v Speaker 4>if he could somehow take down Lane Kiffin and LSU

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<v Speaker 4>on national TV, it's a refresher for Clemson football with

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<v Speaker 4>a long season to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think that's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>tough task.

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<v Speaker 2>Very tough.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the first time Clemson hasn't been ranked since 2011.

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<v Speaker 5>I looked this up. That was Dabba's third year and

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<v Speaker 5>their quarterback. Taj Boyd was in his first year. They

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<v Speaker 5>weren't ranked that year. They won the ACC and just

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<v Speaker 5>started this incredible run. But I'll be honest, what bothers

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<v Speaker 5>me about Dabo a little bit, now he's asking his

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<v Speaker 5>donors for NIL money.

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<v Speaker 3>Four years late.

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<v Speaker 5>He convinced them that you don't need NIL to compete.

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<v Speaker 5>And now he's saying, I guess we do. You mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, a 7-6 season last year, you get one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>If you get a couple national titles, you get one

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<v Speaker 4>of those. Ask Gene Chizik years ago at Auburn. how

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<v Speaker 4>long your hall pass is. But what's interesting about LSU

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<v Speaker 4>is they're going the route of Sam Levitt, the ASU quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>good-looking kid. Jane Daniels did this. He went from ASU

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<v Speaker 4>to LSU to the pros.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>And they got Jordan Seaton left tackle out of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 5>They got a lot of prize recruits all over the field.

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<v Speaker 5>I love Sam Levitt. Our buddy Tom McShay, former ESPN

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<v Speaker 5>draft guru, he thinks Sam Levin might be the best

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback in college football.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only just the best quarterback this year, the best

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<v Speaker 3>pro prospect.

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<v Speaker 4>Warm take.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see, but Lane Kiffin offenses. I mean, any quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>can look good there. I think he's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we've got other games this weekend, Pearl. Your

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville squad versus Ole Miss. Trinidad Chambliss is back, the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>They're a very root-for-able team, Ole Miss. You've got to

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<v Speaker 4>like them. And then you've got Wisconsin versus Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame is a big favorite in this game. Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 4>football is not what it used to be. But Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 4>the schedule is getting joked on a little bit. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this schedule is non-threatening, except for that Miami game in

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<v Speaker 4>early November. Notre Dame is good for one trip-up game

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<v Speaker 4>about every three years. You don't want it to be

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<v Speaker 4>this one. You don't want to open the season with

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<v Speaker 4>this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, they start out slow a lot. And

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<v Speaker 3>they've made the mistake.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year, they put A &amp; M and Miami on

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<v Speaker 5>their schedule. This is a much better start. But you

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<v Speaker 5>know how scheduling works. They did not know Wisconsin would

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<v Speaker 5>be down.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. That's a good point. This game was scheduled four

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<v Speaker 4>seasons ago when they had 10 wins at Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was the guy last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember the debate? Should Notre Dame get in with two losses?

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<v Speaker 5>I was a guy who was against it. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>like their schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest. I'm a little frustrated.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going into week one. I wish there were more

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<v Speaker 5>marquee matchups. Remember last year we had Ohio State-Texas? Wisconsin-Notre

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<v Speaker 5>Dame is not quite doing it for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Notre Dame-Michigan went away for a while. Notre

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<v Speaker 4>Dame-USC is going to be on a bit of a hiatus.

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<v Speaker 4>So some of those premier games have gone away.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll tell you though, Louisville. I've been talking off-air

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<v Speaker 5>about them. Everyone's talking about Ole Miss, of course. The

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<v Speaker 5>feel-good team, Trinidad-Chamliss.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Louisville your Indiana team?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're in the 20s.

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<v Speaker 5>Indiana was ranked a little higher than me the last year,

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<v Speaker 5>but they got a quarterback, Lincoln Kienholz, who was the

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<v Speaker 5>backup at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>And every time he got in, he dominated.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, of course, Ohio State was up 38 to nothing

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<v Speaker 5>when he got in. So there was a good reason.

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<v Speaker 5>They have a running back in Isaac Brown. But that's

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<v Speaker 5>the way college football is. In the NIL era right now,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't know where the great teams are going to

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<v Speaker 5>come from.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>You could redo your team just like, you know, Kurt

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<v Speaker 4>Cignetti at Indiana. He brought all those kids over from

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<v Speaker 4>James Madison. He redid his team instantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>IU's quarterback, Josh Hoover, former TCU transfer. Not so much

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<v Speaker 4>pressure on him week one, but it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to see Indiana football. Do they come out steamrolling

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<v Speaker 4>like they did last year?

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<v Speaker 5>It's funny because Josh Hoover, everyone's like, well, Fernando Mendoza

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<v Speaker 5>did it last year, so Josh Hoover's got to do

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<v Speaker 5>it this year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that big a sample size, Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such a weird world we're in in college football,

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<v Speaker 4>like Can Indiana repeat? Did you ever think you'd ever

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<v Speaker 4>say the phrase, would Indiana football repeat as national title holders?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, we've had a lot of experts on

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<v Speaker 5>this week, and everybody's high on Indiana this year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like, well, they lost the number one pick.

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<v Speaker 3>They did lose Fernando Mendoza.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of skill position players are back. A lot

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<v Speaker 4>of defenders are back. Coming up later, are we doing

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<v Speaker 4>our national picks now, national title picks now or later?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to save it, Paul. You're saving it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little worried. We have not revealed it to

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<v Speaker 3>each other.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we never reveal.

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<v Speaker 5>So what would happen if we had the same exact

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<v Speaker 5>national title game? Would we have to pivot off of that?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that bad TV?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we do think alike on some things, but

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<v Speaker 5>not on other things.

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<v Speaker 4>What about Heisman picks? Are those coming later?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>And that I know we're going different because I am

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<v Speaker 5>going way off the board for.

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<v Speaker 3>My Heisman pick.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot coming up today. A lot coming up today.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>In the college football world, there's a lot of drama

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<v Speaker 5>down in Chapel Hill, of course. We'll get into the

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<v Speaker 5>North Carolina story, and I have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Great analogy for Bill Belichick. That's next. Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Perloff, here we go. Midday pick-me-up. You are

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<v Speaker 4>going to love this. I know I'm about to love this.

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb Williams at the Cub game. PCA saying hi to

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<v Speaker 4>his friend. Hey, pal.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, come on.

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb Wilson of the Bulls, the rookie. Matis Bouzelis of

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<v Speaker 4>the Bills.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know you're a huge Chicago fan.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you going to get a poster of this in

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<v Speaker 5>your room if that's what's happening right here?

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<v Speaker 6>A poster?

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to wallpaper my living room with this photo.

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<v Speaker 5>That is such a surefire win when a guy from

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<v Speaker 5>one team goes to the game in another sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, look at that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's burning my retinas as a Chicago guy.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, about half of those guys haven't proven

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<v Speaker 5>anything yet. I don't know what you guys are so

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<v Speaker 5>excited about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>PCA, Caleb's and Caleb's.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all there. They're all there.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, welcome back to Not So Fast. Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 4>will be joining us in 15 minutes right here in

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<v Speaker 4>the big seat. And the UMass head coach will be

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<v Speaker 4>joining us after the Rutgers win. It's time for Warm Takes.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll love it. It's sweeping the nation. Day five.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go first. Ready? Soak this one in.

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<v Speaker 4>When in the heck did Indiana become a football state? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I know Notre Dame. They've been there for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>But even Notre Dame went down for a couple years

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<v Speaker 4>here and there. Indiana football is a defending national title.

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<v Speaker 4>They won the Heisman last year at Mendoza. They've got

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to repeat. They're a top 10 team, not

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<v Speaker 4>a fluke team, And they're right back in it. Notre

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<v Speaker 4>Dame is in the title picture again, and it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be perennially. Marcus Freeman passed on the NFL to

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<v Speaker 4>stay at Notre Dame multiple times. This state is just

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<v Speaker 4>running college football. This used to be the state of

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<v Speaker 4>Bob Knight, the state of John Wooden. This used to

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<v Speaker 4>be a pure college basketball state. Now, Purdue has some

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<v Speaker 4>catching up to do, but Kurt Cignetti could run for governor.

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<v Speaker 4>Marcus Freeman's is staying at Notre Dame over multiple NFL offers.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a great time to be a sports fan

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<v Speaker 4>in Indiana, but football more than basketball, it's a little odd.

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<v Speaker 5>What if Hoosiers 2 was actually a football movie and

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<v Speaker 5>not a basketball movie? No football school this small has

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<v Speaker 5>ever won the state title.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Hoosiers 2. We talked about this last year, you

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<v Speaker 4>and I. We said Hoosiers 2 is the Indiana football story.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I talked about that because that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I texted you 10 times and you didn't respond.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so weird, too.

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<v Speaker 5>Is Kentucky next or are we going to get other

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<v Speaker 5>basketball powers to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Good at football?

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<v Speaker 4>Or are you going to be like Florida where you

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<v Speaker 4>do both?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, easier said than done. All right, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to my warm take.

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<v Speaker 5>Not quite as positive down in Chapel Hill, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 5>where Bill Belichick and the program has gotten in a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of trouble. I was looking back at when Belichick

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<v Speaker 5>first got there. There was a great column in The

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<v Speaker 5>Athletic saying, Bill Belichick will be no Rodney Dangerfield in

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<v Speaker 5>the movie Back to School. Now, if you're too young

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't know Back to School, homework, watch it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a great movie. Rodney goes back to college and

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<v Speaker 5>lives it up. Now, for that headline, turns out Belichick

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<v Speaker 5>is more Rodney Dangerfield than Rodney Dangerfield himself in the movie.

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<v Speaker 5>He took over a program at North Carolina, and all

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<v Speaker 5>we have right now is reports of sex, drugs, and

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<v Speaker 5>rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>The story about Bill Belichick in North Carolina shocked me

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<v Speaker 5>because he always ran a very tight ship in Foxborough,

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<v Speaker 5>and now it seems.

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<v Speaker 3>Like anything goes in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 5>And Rodney, in the movie, dated an English professor, I believe,

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<v Speaker 5>played by Sally Kellerman.

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<v Speaker 3>Good call.

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<v Speaker 5>Bill's dating a 25-year-old. So he's ahead of Rodney in

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<v Speaker 5>that sense. It's unbelievable what has happened to this program.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'd really like a true documentary of what the

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<v Speaker 5>day-to-day for Bill Belichick is like.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 5>He's enjoying himself. Now, in the movie Back to School,

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<v Speaker 5>of course, Rodney Dangerfield ended the movie with the Triple Lindy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what the Triple Lindy is.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a dive. It was an athletic feat. Belichick's

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<v Speaker 5>version of the Triple Lindy would be actually getting to

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<v Speaker 5>the college football playoff. That would be an incredible feat

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<v Speaker 5>for this program. Listen, they won 15-10, I believe, over

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<v Speaker 5>TCU in opening week.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>But I feel like it's a kind of cinematic quality

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<v Speaker 5>down there. And if it's like back to school, Belichick

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<v Speaker 5>is going to make the college football playoff and walk

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<v Speaker 5>it off in the sunset with Jordan Hudson. It's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be an incredible ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Bravo. If there was a warm take chain, I'd give

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<v Speaker 4>it to you. That was the warm take of the

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<v Speaker 4>week on Not So Fast. I yield the floor to

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<v Speaker 4>this one. I admire it. To work Bill Belichick and

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<v Speaker 4>Rodney Dangerfield in a warm take, I love it. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to give you this lovely NBC Sports vintage mug.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, look at that.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a great point, but I think what Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick said earlier today on the Dan Patrick Show was,

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<v Speaker 4>can Bill Belichick win his way out of this? And

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<v Speaker 4>usually in sports you can. Now, Bill has an off

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<v Speaker 4>week this week, but UNC has Clemson in three weeks

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<v Speaker 4>and Notre Dame in four weeks. If somehow, and don't

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<v Speaker 4>say never, we don't say that on this show, if

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<v Speaker 4>somehow he beats Clemson and he beats Notre Dame... The

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<v Speaker 4>hype is back in a rush. If he loses both

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<v Speaker 4>of those, it's open season.

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<v Speaker 3>Can he hurt his pro legacy by what happens here?

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<v Speaker 6>I would hope not.

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<v Speaker 4>I really hope it doesn't. Like him not getting the

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<v Speaker 4>Hall of Fame on first ballot is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>nuttier things that's ever happened in football history. Because if

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Belichick's not first ballot as a coach, that means

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<v Speaker 4>there will be no more first ballot head coaches.

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<v Speaker 3>No, of course he should get in.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw the Hall of Fame just this hour, I believe,

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<v Speaker 5>change their criteria.

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<v Speaker 4>To put Bill in?

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<v Speaker 5>Basically, yeah, because Belichick obviously deserves it. They could argue

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<v Speaker 5>he's going back to the NFL. I think that ship

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<v Speaker 5>has sailed.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, my next warm take is this, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is an NSF PSA, here we go, PDQ. One thing

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<v Speaker 4>we like to do on NSF is tailgate. We like

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<v Speaker 4>to tailgate and watch college football and see college football

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<v Speaker 4>in person. Here's my tip for you. This weekend, it's

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<v Speaker 4>72 degrees pretty much everywhere. Go watch a local college

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<v Speaker 4>football game. We can't all live in Baton Rouge or Eugene.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been there.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't live in Austin, Texas. Go see a small

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<v Speaker 4>college football game. Go to Weber State versus Southern Utah.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been there. Go see Carroll at St.

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<v Speaker 3>Norbert.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been there as well. Go see Illinois College at Elmhurst.

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<v Speaker 4>There's lots of small college football, Division II, FCS, Division III, NAIA,

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<v Speaker 4>NA whatever. Just go roll up. It costs nothing to park.

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<v Speaker 4>You can tailgate anywhere you want. You walk in, you

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<v Speaker 4>pay five bucks or less, and you go see some

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<v Speaker 4>real college football. If you get some vitamin D on you,

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<v Speaker 4>get a brat in your belly, and go watch some

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<v Speaker 4>college football. You'll feel better about yourself. And then take

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<v Speaker 4>a picture. Send in your picture. Best one makes the

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<v Speaker 4>air this weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>How are the tailgates at some of these games?

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<v Speaker 4>Surprisingly good. A little old school. You know I like

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the Yale tailgate. A little bougie, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of plaid. Army football, there's a prime one this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Army football redid their football stadium, and it is Gorge

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<v Speaker 4>on the Hudson. You've been there.

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<v Speaker 5>I've actually never been there. Dan said that's just one

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<v Speaker 5>of his favorite places to watch a game.

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<v Speaker 4>You may be under orders to go see Mikey Stadium

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<v Speaker 4>this weekend, but Army football is an experience. As an American,

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<v Speaker 4>as a football fan, please go.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Paul, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's turn our attention to the NFL draft. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>year and a half away. Obviously too early to really

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<v Speaker 5>be talking about it, but you know how the websites

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<v Speaker 5>put out their mock drafts. I just want to warn you,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're reading a too early mock draft, this is

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<v Speaker 5>a mock draft, Paul, from last year, this exact week.

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<v Speaker 5>ESPN put out a mock draft and they had six

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<v Speaker 5>quarterbacks in their first round. Starting with Arch Manning, Lenore Sellers,

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<v Speaker 5>Kate Klubnick, Sam Levitt, Drew Aller, and Garrett Nussmeyer. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>the actual picks were not those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Fernando Mendoza.

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<v Speaker 4>Those weren't the actual picks.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>And Ty Simpson. Arch came back. Lenore came back. Klubnick

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<v Speaker 5>is a jet. Sam Levitt's down at LSU. Drew Aller,

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<v Speaker 5>promising camp and sealer. Garrett Nussmeyer, late-round pick. So you

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<v Speaker 5>never know. We thought these guys were sure things. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>this year, there's a lot of potential sure things, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got Dante Moore, Arch Manning, C.J.

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<v Speaker 3>Carr.

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<v Speaker 5>Lenore Sellers is still there. Messamaker, Chambliss, Mensah, Leavitt. You

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<v Speaker 5>go down there, there's a lot of potential NFL quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 5>Just don't jump to any conclusions. The season has to

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<v Speaker 5>play out. I love getting excited about guys. I'm all

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<v Speaker 5>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But do not overdo it right now because we have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I do like looking back at August mock drafts. You

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<v Speaker 4>used to do a mock draft. Two days after the

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<v Speaker 4>draft years ago, and it was always a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was fun. Was it accurate? No. Didn't work

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<v Speaker 3>out sometimes. As I recall, Ryan Mallett did not go

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<v Speaker 3>number one overall.

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<v Speaker 4>We're still checking on that. He should have. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>let's get to a little NFL preview. You've got NFL

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<v Speaker 4>in five days on a Wednesday. Don't sleep on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go to the AFC North here on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 4>AFC North, Perloff. And we're going to do this a

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<v Speaker 4>little fun way.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to ask you the threat level of the

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<v Speaker 4>following teams. Threat level means chance to get to the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl and then riff and tell me what you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting with the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>A serious threat.

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<v Speaker 5>Jesse Minter is going to make that defense pretty, pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>But the offense is a difference to me. Declan Doyle,

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<v Speaker 5>new offensive coordinator, paired with Lamar Jackson. Lamar said the

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<v Speaker 5>NFL has no idea what's coming. And I think he's

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<v Speaker 5>really mad about last year. He had a hamstring injury.

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<v Speaker 5>I think their offense is going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be scary. The problem is injuries.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bengals were in the Super Bowl a couple years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if they've cooled on them, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think they've been burned by the Joe Burrow injuries. I

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<v Speaker 4>think everyone likes the Bengals, but not secure enough to

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<v Speaker 4>put them in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you on that?

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<v Speaker 5>I think people are jumping back on that Bengals bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 5>Dexter Lawrence on defense. Finally, they spend on defense. It's been, God,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, their entire existence. They never really wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to spend. Now they're spending.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow. Have you watched any Joe Burrow interviews? He

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<v Speaker 3>looks pretty focused.

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<v Speaker 4>Hair looks good.

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<v Speaker 3>Hair looks amazing. By the way, he looks focused. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Joe Burrow is probably always focused. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>He seems like he's on a revenge tour as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Those two teams, the Ravens and the Bengals, I expect

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<v Speaker 5>them to make a lot of noise.

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<v Speaker 4>OK, every year the Steelers are good, not great. They're

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<v Speaker 4>never bad. It's a very weird team as far as

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<v Speaker 4>like they're never embarrassing. They never have a top five pick.

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<v Speaker 4>But it feels also lately that it's been a while

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<v Speaker 4>since they've been threatening. Are they Super Bowl threatening or

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<v Speaker 4>first round playoff exit threatening?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>I have some friends in Pittsburgh. They're so sick of

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<v Speaker 5>limbo where they get to the playoffs and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then lose in the first half.

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<v Speaker 4>And you don't draft high.

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<v Speaker 5>And you never draft high. Then you've got to take

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<v Speaker 5>a Kenny pick at 21.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Tomlin's gone. Tomlin seemed to be coaching 2, 10,

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<v Speaker 3>and 7.

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<v Speaker 5>I am not so convinced that Aaron Rodgers last year

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be a good one. You know, the

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<v Speaker 5>last year of a quarterback is always bad, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that. Even Brady didn't play well his last year.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I will say looking at the schedule, Falcons...

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you've got the Browns, you've got the Colts,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got Tampa. You could pile up a few wins early.

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<v Speaker 3>You're at New England, you're at Philly.

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<v Speaker 4>I left those out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I noticed you left those out. Yes, you could

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<v Speaker 5>pile up a few wins to get to 10-7. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's the same team we've seen over the last decade.

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<v Speaker 4>But are the Steelers in good shape quarterback-wise going forward

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<v Speaker 4>because they know exactly what they have with Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's last year, no money invested. They got no

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<v Speaker 4>money invested at all with the position.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, what happens if they're 10-7 and they pick 20th again?

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<v Speaker 5>And then they miss out on all these guys that

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<v Speaker 5>we talked about earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>At least Aaron Rodgers won't be back. At least we

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<v Speaker 4>say so for now. The last team in the division,

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<v Speaker 4>we talked about them, the Browns. Is there any threat

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<v Speaker 4>level for the Browns?

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<v Speaker 3>No, certainly not. You know what's funny?

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<v Speaker 5>Except for quarterback, they've stacked talent all around the roster,

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<v Speaker 5>which makes me think this is a good plan. Their

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback's playing college football this weekend, and now he's got

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<v Speaker 5>two good receivers who are young, great defensive players. Even

0:19:21.570 --> 0:19:23.690
<v Speaker 5>though they lost Myles Garrett, they got Jared Vers back,

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<v Speaker 5>Carson Swessinger. I like what the Browns are doing.

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<v Speaker 4>As a franchise for the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is all about 2029.

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<v Speaker 6>Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>Got that to look forward to if you're in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, nice job, Pearl, on the AFC. Look at that,

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<v Speaker 4>AFC North. All right, coming up next, our buddy Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick stops guy. He's the one that made this all happen.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to chop it up with us. And coming

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<v Speaker 4>up in a little bit, the head coach of UMass football.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick around. This is Not So Fast. Passing Pearl off.

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<v Speaker 7>Back.

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<v Speaker 5>Not So Fast. Andrew Perloff, Paul Pabst. Now, Paul, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if we get credit for this booking, but

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<v Speaker 5>we got a big one right now.

0:19:57.340 --> 0:19:58.859
<v Speaker 4>I walked him down the hall, so I get one

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<v Speaker 4>point for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a full introduction, by the way. I did

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<v Speaker 3>some research.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we need a full introduction. I mean,

0:20:05.230 --> 0:20:06.149
<v Speaker 2>you can, but I.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't think you even remember all these, but

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<v Speaker 5>I have some information on our guest, Dan Patrick. Three-time

0:20:11.290 --> 0:20:15.230
<v Speaker 5>Marconi Award winner, two-time National Sportscaster of the Year, 12-time

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<v Speaker 5>Emmy nominee, according to IMDb, Cable Ace Award winner.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't talk about that enough. No.

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<v Speaker 5>National Sports Media Association Hall of Fame. He brought us

0:20:23.740 --> 0:20:25.580
<v Speaker 5>down to North Carolina. Radio Hall of Fame brought us

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.320
<v Speaker 5>to Chicago. You know him, you love him, Dan Patrick. Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>did you have those numbers memorized? Did you know how

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<v Speaker 5>many Emmy nominations? No.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You have 39 acting credits.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you can't name everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot.

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<v Speaker 7>I was asked that the other day. Can I name

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<v Speaker 7>all of the Sandler movies I've been in? I go,

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<v Speaker 7>it sounds arrogant that I don't remember how many movies

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<v Speaker 7>I've been in, but I'm shooting Grown Ups 3 a

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<v Speaker 7>week from Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is more nerve-wracking, being maybe on their first time

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<v Speaker 4>on a real movie set, like a real movie, or

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<v Speaker 4>giving out the Super Bowl trophy the first time?

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<v Speaker 7>I've never been as nervous as I was with the movie,

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<v Speaker 7>Just Go With It, when I was up there with

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<v Speaker 7>Jennifer Aniston and Nicole Kidman, because they're actresses. And I

0:21:09.020 --> 0:21:11.400
<v Speaker 7>kept thinking, how long is it going to take before

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<v Speaker 7>they realize that I can't act? And that was, in

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<v Speaker 7>the back of my mind, I kept thinking, can I

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<v Speaker 7>continue this ruse? And Nicole Kidman saw right through me

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<v Speaker 7>right away. Aniston, I think, pulled Sandler to the side

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<v Speaker 7>and might have said, is he an actor? And if

0:21:28.570 --> 0:21:30.690
<v Speaker 7>she did, she had every right to say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he an actor?

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<v Speaker 4>You were nice enough to take us to that premiere.

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<v Speaker 4>We were in a darkened studio, and you were there

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<v Speaker 4>as well. And after the movie, do you remember what

0:21:39.470 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 4>I did?

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<v Speaker 7>I was on the end row, and you walked up,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think you hugged me.

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<v Speaker 4>I gave you a hug in a darkened theater. And

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<v Speaker 4>in all seriousness, not trying to blow smoke. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a tough room to be in with Aniston. I mean, that's...

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<v Speaker 4>That's some high-end actors.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Matthews was in that.

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<v Speaker 6>But it was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>When you did the big country line, and I know

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<v Speaker 4>you did that off the cuff, that got the whole

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<v Speaker 4>theater left at big country. And that's why I was

0:22:04.790 --> 0:22:07.030
<v Speaker 4>really proud of you. I thought that was where, like, whoa,

0:22:07.170 --> 0:22:08.330
<v Speaker 4>you're keeping up with some heavy hitters.

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<v Speaker 2>Sandler let me improvise.

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<v Speaker 7>So Sandler sits out in the audience, and then we

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.980
<v Speaker 7>do our scene up on stage. And then I stopped

0:22:19.020 --> 0:22:21.420
<v Speaker 7>at one point and Sandler yells out in front of everybody.

0:22:21.460 --> 0:22:22.920
<v Speaker 7>So there's 50 people in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, Danny, Danny, ad lib, ad lib.

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<v Speaker 7>And I go, oh, okay. And so Aniston and Kidman

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<v Speaker 7>are staring at me like this. And I totally ruined

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<v Speaker 7>the first day. And then we had to come back

0:22:37.470 --> 0:22:39.990
<v Speaker 7>for closeups the second day. And then I was able

0:22:40.050 --> 0:22:43.150
<v Speaker 7>to kind of salvage it. But I got Dave Matthews,

0:22:43.170 --> 0:22:44.149
<v Speaker 7>who's making fun of me.

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<v Speaker 2>And he kept going.

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<v Speaker 6>How tall are you?

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<v Speaker 2>He kept wanting to know how tall I was. How

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<v Speaker 2>tall are you?

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<v Speaker 6>How tall?

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<v Speaker 2>You look like you're 6'3. This is in between takes.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like, man, I'm in over my skis.

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<v Speaker 7>But I thank Sandler for giving me a meaty role.

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<v Speaker 3>They put it in the movie. For some reason, he

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<v Speaker 3>yells out.

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:05.980
<v Speaker 4>He goes, how tall do you think that fellow is?

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<v Speaker 7>He thought it was funny. And then Sandler's sitting with

0:23:08.300 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 7>him during the different takes. And they decided to put

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<v Speaker 7>that in.

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<v Speaker 5>You were pretty nervous the first time you brought the

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<v Speaker 5>Danettes to a movie set. I remember that day very well.

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<v Speaker 5>It was That's My Boy. We were shooting a prison

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<v Speaker 5>scene with Susan Sarandon. And you know how it got

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.899
<v Speaker 5>started because there was one Danette who was not exactly

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<v Speaker 5>on target.

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<v Speaker 7>Fritzie had to carry a makeshift camera and make it

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<v Speaker 7>seem like he was with Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood

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<v Speaker 7>and I was the TV's Randall Morgan. And Fritzie, all

0:23:40.250 --> 0:23:42.629
<v Speaker 7>he had to do was have the camera fixed on

0:23:42.670 --> 0:23:46.209
<v Speaker 7>me as we're going to go meet Susan Sarandon in prison.

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<v Speaker 7>And Todd is walking cause he's staring at Susan Sarandon

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<v Speaker 7>and the camera is facing the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:23:52.650 --> 0:23:53.970
<v Speaker 4>He's watching like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 7>And the executive producer, Jack Garaputo came out and yelled

0:23:59.609 --> 0:24:01.889
<v Speaker 7>at Fritzie in front of, he said, I gave you

0:24:02.150 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 7>one job, hold the camera and walk towards where Dan is.

0:24:06.980 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 7>And you know, Fritzie was ruined after that, of course. Uh,

0:24:10.290 --> 0:24:12.750
<v Speaker 7>But that was one of those where that's Susan Sarandon

0:24:13.170 --> 0:24:16.430
<v Speaker 7>on the other side of the prison glass. But Sandler

0:24:16.470 --> 0:24:19.490
<v Speaker 7>does that. I mean, he does empower you, enable you

0:24:19.510 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 7>and trust you. And, you know, this is, you know,

0:24:23.910 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 7>three three decades of being in movies with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for coming down to the show today. Now, we

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<v Speaker 4>when we were getting ready to get this show going today,

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<v Speaker 4>we saw the news break that Kathy Engelbert, the WNBA commissioner,

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 4>was announcing her retirement at the end of the year.

0:24:38.510 --> 0:24:41.609
<v Speaker 4>Not the biggest surprise of all time, but two things.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you love when it breaks on the air?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, sure. I mean, that's life. That's what's fun. How

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 2>do you react?

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<v Speaker 7>What's your opinion? And can you get a guest with this?

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 7>Or what can you add? I think it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>as soon as I saw it, and I thought, okay.

0:25:01.510 --> 0:25:04.189
<v Speaker 7>I certainly have an opinion of her and, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>our brief interaction in Tahoe. And... getting credit for, probably

0:25:10.220 --> 0:25:12.700
<v Speaker 7>too much credit for an interview I never did, I'm

0:25:12.740 --> 0:25:15.490
<v Speaker 7>not surprised that they're moving on. I was told after

0:25:16.030 --> 0:25:20.070
<v Speaker 7>the interview didn't go down in Tahoe by somebody, I

0:25:21.170 --> 0:25:23.070
<v Speaker 7>don't want to give too much away, but they said that,

0:25:23.330 --> 0:25:25.090
<v Speaker 7>don't worry, she won't be around much longer.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>Going back to that time in Tahoe, you talked about

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 4>it on your show a little bit earlier. When this

0:25:32.900 --> 0:25:35.970
<v Speaker 4>all went south, you know how the media reacts. I

0:25:36.010 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 4>remember you leaned over to me like this is not

0:25:37.700 --> 0:25:40.060
<v Speaker 4>going to go well for her by kind of ghosting

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 4>the show and not having maybe an underling walk over

0:25:42.700 --> 0:25:44.220
<v Speaker 4>her walk over and just have a chat with you.

0:25:44.700 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 7>Well, you can't go over to where you're hitting shots

0:25:47.700 --> 0:25:52.390
<v Speaker 7>out of a bunker, a practice facility area in Tahoe.

0:25:52.450 --> 0:25:55.430
<v Speaker 7>And I'm I'm 100 feet away. All you have to

0:25:55.450 --> 0:25:57.209
<v Speaker 7>do is walk over and say, look, I'm really sorry.

0:25:57.350 --> 0:26:00.820
<v Speaker 7>Can't do it for whatever reason. But you're not saying

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<v Speaker 7>anything other than PR told her not to do the interview.

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.919
<v Speaker 7>after she had already agreed to do the interview, but

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 7>then nobody's ever followed up to apologize, just say, hey,

0:26:11.859 --> 0:26:14.719
<v Speaker 7>we're really sorry. Because I am a big cheerleader for

0:26:14.740 --> 0:26:18.900
<v Speaker 7>the actual game of basketball in the WNBA. I don't

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.190
<v Speaker 7>care about the low-hanging fruit with the other nonsense. I

0:26:22.230 --> 0:26:24.649
<v Speaker 7>care about the actual play that I see. And I

0:26:24.690 --> 0:26:26.870
<v Speaker 7>thought this would have been great, a platform for her

0:26:26.990 --> 0:26:31.090
<v Speaker 7>to actually clear the air about all of these different topics,

0:26:31.750 --> 0:26:33.490
<v Speaker 7>and she chose not to.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>We do a lot of interviews. And afterwards, sometimes you

0:26:37.300 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 5>say to Paul, I don't know what just happened. Like

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 5>you seem to clear your slate. You went viral twice

0:26:43.020 --> 0:26:44.540
<v Speaker 5>this week. Are you aware of that?

0:26:44.980 --> 0:26:46.270
<v Speaker 3>So two interviews went viral.

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<v Speaker 5>Mike Tomlin saying that he's never been to the family

0:26:49.470 --> 0:26:51.090
<v Speaker 5>gathering after in the summer.

0:26:51.650 --> 0:26:56.490
<v Speaker 3>And Pablo Torre saying, commenting on ESPN. Very viral. Hundreds

0:26:56.530 --> 0:26:57.330
<v Speaker 3>of thousands of socials.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you aware right afterwards what's happening outside the building

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<v Speaker 5>and your name is out there?

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.830
<v Speaker 7>Only a couple of times. And I said to Paul,

0:27:07.990 --> 0:27:12.070
<v Speaker 7>this won't be good for the WNBA, Kathy Engelbert. I

0:27:12.130 --> 0:27:14.150
<v Speaker 7>knew in that moment. You knew that. I knew that

0:27:14.510 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 7>because everybody was ready to pounce on her anyway. And

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.700
<v Speaker 7>I knew that I was kind of playing to the

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 7>masses there. But I knew that was going viral.

0:27:25.859 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Did you know Tomlin was going to get an action?

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all.

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.010
<v Speaker 3>Did you know he was going to be that loose?

0:27:30.230 --> 0:27:30.950
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

0:27:31.109 --> 0:27:33.030
<v Speaker 4>It felt like a body-switching movie. When he came on

0:27:33.050 --> 0:27:35.570
<v Speaker 4>the set with us, he jumps in. He goes, hey, Dan.

0:27:36.210 --> 0:27:38.350
<v Speaker 4>It felt like, where's that guy who was Mr. Stoic

0:27:38.390 --> 0:27:38.730
<v Speaker 4>for years?

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<v Speaker 7>I kept thinking, if he gives me Tomlin face like

0:27:41.390 --> 0:27:45.180
<v Speaker 7>he does at the press conference. And even then, there

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:49.460
<v Speaker 7>are certain interviews where I'm really, there's trepidation the day before.

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Like, God.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 2>I'll say to Paul sometimes, like, God, I'm glad that

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 2>interview's over.

0:27:54.300 --> 0:27:54.460
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:55.390 --> 0:27:56.909
<v Speaker 7>But, you know, I mean, it's never as bad as

0:27:56.950 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 7>you think it is, but you just keep thinking, this

0:27:59.500 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 7>is live. And 99.9% of our interviews are live. You're

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.699
<v Speaker 7>hoping that you get somebody who's going to tell you

0:28:06.740 --> 0:28:10.669
<v Speaker 7>something and not give you the yes or no answer.

0:28:11.270 --> 0:28:15.130
<v Speaker 7>And if he gave me Mike Tomlin's Steeler coach, that

0:28:15.450 --> 0:28:17.030
<v Speaker 7>kind of look, I'd have been in trouble.

0:28:17.330 --> 0:28:18.869
<v Speaker 5>Wait, you've handed out the Super Bowl trophy and you

0:28:18.910 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 5>still get nervous for interviews?

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:21.450
<v Speaker 6>Well....

0:28:23.170 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 7>Yes, because I think I've applied so much pressure on,

0:28:27.140 --> 0:28:28.700
<v Speaker 7>or I've been told I'm a good interviewer.

0:28:29.260 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>What am I getting? And then if I don't get something,

0:28:31.660 --> 0:28:33.100
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, you know.

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:34.859
<v Speaker 4>And I look at you as like you're making a

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:36.580
<v Speaker 4>dinner for a bunch of guests and you don't want

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 4>to screw up one part of the meal. Like you

0:28:38.660 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>look at an interview as a start, a middle, a finish.

0:28:41.420 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 4>There's a strategy to it. The first question may end

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 4>up being the last question. And you sometimes do things

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.700
<v Speaker 4>that are different. You've always done things that are different.

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.490
<v Speaker 4>Like I remember one of the first times we had

0:28:52.530 --> 0:28:54.650
<v Speaker 4>Nick Saban on when he started rolling at Alabama. Nick

0:28:54.670 --> 0:28:56.390
<v Speaker 4>Saban didn't do a lot and didn't do a lot

0:28:56.410 --> 0:28:59.470
<v Speaker 4>with us. You asked him, what happens if someone parks

0:28:59.510 --> 0:29:03.630
<v Speaker 4>in your parking spot at Alabama? And Nick goes, Dan,

0:29:03.690 --> 0:29:06.270
<v Speaker 4>nobody parks in my parking spot. But if it did,

0:29:06.290 --> 0:29:09.450
<v Speaker 4>he goes, I can't even entertain that question, Dan. And

0:29:09.490 --> 0:29:12.340
<v Speaker 4>it was great because instead of saying, what do you

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 4>think is going to happen against Georgia this weekend, football talk,

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 4>you went. And then another time you asked Nick Saban,

0:29:18.260 --> 0:29:19.580
<v Speaker 4>what do you listen to on the way into work?

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 4>Or what music do you play at the lake house?

0:29:23.380 --> 0:29:26.730
<v Speaker 4>And I think he appreciated the complete randomness of those questions.

0:29:27.510 --> 0:29:29.650
<v Speaker 7>Well, I think there are times when you go, okay,

0:29:29.670 --> 0:29:32.430
<v Speaker 7>what is the first question? And I always tell people

0:29:32.450 --> 0:29:35.310
<v Speaker 7>who are doing interviews, know what your first question is

0:29:35.350 --> 0:29:37.530
<v Speaker 7>going to be and what is that leading to? And

0:29:37.550 --> 0:29:39.230
<v Speaker 7>then where do you want to go in the interview?

0:29:39.690 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 7>What's my goal in the interview? I don't want it

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.500
<v Speaker 7>to be about me. I want it to be about

0:29:46.660 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 7>him giving me answers. It's not about my questions. It's

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 7>about his answers. And I think that's the fun part

0:29:52.100 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 7>because sometimes you get on a Zoom call and you'll go,

0:29:54.340 --> 0:29:55.110
<v Speaker 7>what's that behind you?

0:29:55.830 --> 0:29:57.610
<v Speaker 2>And they'll go, I don't know. And then they turn around.

0:29:57.630 --> 0:30:00.620
<v Speaker 7>Now I've got you off your mark a little bit,

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 7>which is what I want to do. I want to

0:30:02.660 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 7>have you think this is just a conversation, not an interview.

0:30:06.420 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 7>And I always I tell people when you do interviews,

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:10.550
<v Speaker 7>have conversations, don't have interviews.

0:30:11.290 --> 0:30:13.610
<v Speaker 5>So we were looking at small pictures for an open.

0:30:14.270 --> 0:30:16.090
<v Speaker 5>I had a picture from the attic where Todd was

0:30:16.150 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 5>off in the corner back in the late 2000s. At

0:30:19.630 --> 0:30:22.060
<v Speaker 5>that moment, was this part of your plan to have

0:30:22.100 --> 0:30:22.540
<v Speaker 5>a studio?

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:23.940
<v Speaker 3>I walked in when I first came back.

0:30:24.220 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 5>There was a podcast going on in one room. There

0:30:26.420 --> 0:30:29.580
<v Speaker 5>was a new editor in this room. It's incredible, the

0:30:29.660 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 5>activity level at the Man Cave. It's like nothing I've

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:33.140
<v Speaker 5>ever seen over.

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 3>The last month.

0:30:33.900 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 7>Well, I knew that I wanted to have a bunch

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 7>of cameras watching the show. And it was going to

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.970
<v Speaker 7>be almost like the Truman Show, that movie. A voyeuristic

0:30:44.190 --> 0:30:45.590
<v Speaker 7>watch a show being made.

0:30:45.610 --> 0:30:45.780
<v Speaker 3>And....

0:30:48.250 --> 0:30:48.650
<v Speaker 2>You know, we.

0:30:48.590 --> 0:30:52.410
<v Speaker 7>Got 13 or 14 cameras in here. And so that

0:30:52.450 --> 0:30:54.190
<v Speaker 7>was what I wanted. I didn't want to be just

0:30:54.570 --> 0:30:57.430
<v Speaker 7>in front of a camera and, you know, maybe there's

0:30:57.470 --> 0:30:59.709
<v Speaker 7>another camera angle and that's it. I wanted the Danettes

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 7>involved in it. I wanted interaction. I wanted the rec

0:31:02.420 --> 0:31:05.100
<v Speaker 7>tech grill firing up food. Do you want to play basketball?

0:31:05.140 --> 0:31:06.740
<v Speaker 2>It's there. Throw the football. It's there.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.020
<v Speaker 7>Those were the things that I was hoping for that

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 7>made it a fuller show. And then get great guests,

0:31:13.740 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 7>have fun. And I'm lucky, you know, that there's... you know,

0:31:18.300 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 7>we're familiar with each other. And that familiarity, as you

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 7>guys know, doing this show, that'll take you in rough moments,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, the other person has your back.

0:31:26.500 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.060
<v Speaker 5>Dan, thank you for the time here. Thank you for everything,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:30.780
<v Speaker 5>by the way. I didn't have a chance to say that.

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.740
<v Speaker 5>But we got to move on.

0:31:33.660 --> 0:31:35.020
<v Speaker 2>Hey, this is live. It's TV.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:36.580
<v Speaker 2>Do I get up now?

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Stay with us.

0:31:37.620 --> 0:31:38.020
<v Speaker 4>Stay with us.

0:31:38.020 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stay with us. Coming up next, we have a

0:31:39.540 --> 0:31:39.980
<v Speaker 3>big guest.

0:31:40.340 --> 0:31:44.660
<v Speaker 5>We have the UMass head coach, Joe Harasimiak, after the

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 5>big win over Rutgers.

0:31:45.460 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 3>That's next. Not so fast.

0:31:47.690 --> 0:31:50.090
<v Speaker 4>Back on Not So Fast, Pastor Perloff here. We are

0:31:50.130 --> 0:31:52.430
<v Speaker 4>hyped up for the college football season. Right now, we're

0:31:52.450 --> 0:31:54.150
<v Speaker 4>going to do a thing called the Feel Good. I know, Perloff,

0:31:54.170 --> 0:31:55.530
<v Speaker 4>you're asking, isn't that later in the show?

0:31:55.590 --> 0:31:55.750
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:31:56.210 --> 0:31:58.190
<v Speaker 4>No, we ripped up the rundown because of what happened

0:31:58.230 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 4>last night in college football. Joining us now, fresh off

0:32:01.470 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 4>the 31-27 win last night versus Rutgers, UMass Minutemen head

0:32:05.740 --> 0:32:08.780
<v Speaker 4>coach Joe Harasimiak. Coach, we did it.

0:32:09.620 --> 0:32:10.060
<v Speaker 3>We did it.

0:32:10.060 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 6>We did it.

0:32:11.420 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we did. Yes, we did.

0:32:12.940 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Let's get right into it.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:15.020
<v Speaker 6>Great win.

0:32:15.100 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Everyone's talking about the win over Rutgers for UMass. Everyone

0:32:17.770 --> 0:32:20.150
<v Speaker 4>knows the record you guys had last year. Not a

0:32:20.170 --> 0:32:22.350
<v Speaker 4>lot of wins. Don't have to get into details. Can

0:32:22.390 --> 0:32:24.970
<v Speaker 4>you take us into the pregame speech you gave your players?

0:32:26.210 --> 0:32:26.890
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, it's funny.

0:32:26.930 --> 0:32:28.890
<v Speaker 8>I'm actually one of those believers that the pregame speech

0:32:28.930 --> 0:32:31.910
<v Speaker 8>is kind of for the movies. So I would just

0:32:31.950 --> 0:32:36.209
<v Speaker 8>say the message all offseason, you know, throughout winter and

0:32:36.290 --> 0:32:36.870
<v Speaker 8>spring and.

0:32:37.350 --> 0:32:38.450
<v Speaker 6>Especially camp, is trying to.

0:32:38.430 --> 0:32:40.620
<v Speaker 8>Connect the team the best we could. We have a

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.420
<v Speaker 8>ton of new players. We flip the roster around. But

0:32:43.460 --> 0:32:45.870
<v Speaker 8>sometimes you've got to hit rock bottom to move up.

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:47.390
<v Speaker 8>And I think that's what we did as a program.

0:32:47.450 --> 0:32:50.690
<v Speaker 8>And just really happy for the players and our alumni.

0:32:51.170 --> 0:32:52.470
<v Speaker 6>It's a proud university.

0:32:52.510 --> 0:32:56.190
<v Speaker 8>It's a proud alumni group. And for our players to

0:32:56.230 --> 0:33:00.510
<v Speaker 8>go out there and literally dominate the entire game, hopefully

0:33:00.610 --> 0:33:02.470
<v Speaker 8>that sets a new standard here for UMass football.

0:33:02.830 --> 0:33:04.730
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Coach, taking me to the locker room at half, 24-7,

0:33:04.790 --> 0:33:05.870
<v Speaker 5>you're up.

0:33:06.190 --> 0:33:09.210
<v Speaker 3>What's the vibe? Celebratory? Nervous? What's going on?

0:33:10.330 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 8>You know, I was a little nervous because usually, you know,

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 8>coaches talk about when you're up, you're actually harder on

0:33:16.100 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 8>them than you had to be. But once again, the

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.420
<v Speaker 8>players kind of took control of that. You know, it's

0:33:21.460 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 8>funny there, too. The Rutgers away locker room is like

0:33:23.740 --> 0:33:27.260
<v Speaker 8>an anchovy container. It's tight as hell, and I can't

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.020
<v Speaker 8>even see everyone.

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.500
<v Speaker 6>But it was good. The players let it, and.

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.970
<v Speaker 8>We just talked about finishing the job, right, and just

0:33:35.010 --> 0:33:38.050
<v Speaker 8>continuing to go and creating a new standard defensively.

0:33:38.570 --> 0:33:40.190
<v Speaker 6>But I really didn't have to say much.

0:33:40.210 --> 0:33:43.070
<v Speaker 8>I told them in the Friday night team meeting that, listen,

0:33:43.090 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 8>you guys are like a bunch of wind-up toys.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 6>I think you're ready.

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.100
<v Speaker 8>I'll wind you up, and now I've got to get

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:48.540
<v Speaker 8>out of the way. I think that's what the best

0:33:48.580 --> 0:33:50.300
<v Speaker 8>coaches I've been around, just get out of their way.

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.260
<v Speaker 8>You've prepared them up to this point, and then they've

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:52.700
<v Speaker 8>got to go play.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 4>So, Coach, you're on the sidelines in the second half,

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.250
<v Speaker 4>and this is the first game last night. It got

0:33:58.470 --> 0:34:00.650
<v Speaker 4>all over social media. People were tweeting out, turn on

0:34:00.710 --> 0:34:02.850
<v Speaker 4>Rutgers versus UMass. UMass is going to pull up the

0:34:02.890 --> 0:34:04.950
<v Speaker 4>stunner of the season, even though it's the first week

0:34:04.970 --> 0:34:07.500
<v Speaker 4>of the season. It's all playing out. What's going through

0:34:07.580 --> 0:34:09.660
<v Speaker 4>your mind as the seconds are ticking off the clock?

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 8>Well, up until the last drive, because they had a

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.140
<v Speaker 8>couple of explosives. I've been there before, so I was

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.980
<v Speaker 8>probably coaching harder than I ever have in my life

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 8>for the last eight minutes of that game.

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:24.620
<v Speaker 6>But you know what?

0:34:25.350 --> 0:34:27.330
<v Speaker 8>The players gave me confidence that we were in the

0:34:27.350 --> 0:34:31.230
<v Speaker 8>right mindset. But certainly, you know, your mind races. You

0:34:31.250 --> 0:34:33.790
<v Speaker 8>get distracted and you kind of go to where your

0:34:33.810 --> 0:34:34.549
<v Speaker 8>mind's going to go.

0:34:35.270 --> 0:34:36.469
<v Speaker 6>But just trying to stay in the moment.

0:34:36.510 --> 0:34:39.380
<v Speaker 8>But certainly, you know, the alumni and the fans that

0:34:39.390 --> 0:34:41.819
<v Speaker 8>were behind us, I mean, there was basically no one

0:34:41.860 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 8>left there. And it was just a bunch of UMass chants. And,

0:34:44.739 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, I'm from New Jersey. My parents were there,

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.100
<v Speaker 8>my two brothers, my hometown. I grew up like an

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 8>hour away. So it was pretty cool. But I had

0:34:51.500 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 8>to stay focused on just making sure we finished the game.

0:34:54.660 --> 0:34:56.489
<v Speaker 5>So, Coach, I can ask this because you won, but

0:34:56.530 --> 0:34:58.670
<v Speaker 5>you were at Rutgers when wide receiver K.J.

0:34:58.690 --> 0:34:59.410
<v Speaker 3>Duff got there.

0:34:59.750 --> 0:35:02.069
<v Speaker 5>So I thought as a former D.C. you would have

0:35:02.110 --> 0:35:06.570
<v Speaker 5>a plan for him. Apparently not, because he was a problem.

0:35:06.630 --> 0:35:09.230
<v Speaker 5>Talk about K.J. Duff, and it seemed like you let

0:35:09.270 --> 0:35:11.930
<v Speaker 5>him feed last night and focused on stopping other parts

0:35:11.969 --> 0:35:12.310
<v Speaker 5>of the game.

0:35:13.450 --> 0:35:15.270
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, I was there when K.J. was a

0:35:15.350 --> 0:35:18.049
<v Speaker 8>freshman coming in, and he was a big-time recruit. And

0:35:18.070 --> 0:35:20.109
<v Speaker 8>then obviously right away, I mean, you just saw that

0:35:20.130 --> 0:35:22.509
<v Speaker 8>he was going to be different. Um, so, you know,

0:35:22.530 --> 0:35:24.510
<v Speaker 8>we had a plan, we doubled them a lot, second

0:35:24.530 --> 0:35:27.569
<v Speaker 8>and third quarter. Um, you know, he's like, we, we

0:35:27.590 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 8>talked all week in the defense staff and to our team,

0:35:29.660 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 8>like eight's going to get his right.

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 6>Three, probably going to get his, but if we.

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.180
<v Speaker 8>Can stop the run against the Rutgers offense, where I've

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 8>had familiarity with that, that's, what's going to set us up.

0:35:38.980 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 8>So I think we, I think 35 rushes for 40 yards.

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 8>I mean, if we can make them one dimensional, so

0:35:43.900 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 8>we doubled them a lot.

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 6>Second, third quarter.

0:35:45.380 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 8>If you kind of look at it, first quarter, fourth quarter.

0:35:47.710 --> 0:35:49.010
<v Speaker 8>You know, at the end of the game, they're beating

0:35:49.050 --> 0:35:51.069
<v Speaker 8>up three scores. It was like, hey, let's bleed the

0:35:51.110 --> 0:35:53.430
<v Speaker 8>clock a little bit. I mean, fourth and 13. I mean,

0:35:53.450 --> 0:35:56.620
<v Speaker 8>that was ridiculous catch, you know, but he's just so

0:35:56.780 --> 0:36:00.860
<v Speaker 8>big and his body. He has great body control. So

0:36:00.900 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 8>he puts you he gets like a balmy man relationship

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 8>and get your defender on the backside. So that's why

0:36:05.860 --> 0:36:08.180
<v Speaker 8>it's so hard to get around him. But yeah, I'm

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 8>glad we more than likely don't face.

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.180
<v Speaker 6>Anyone like him for the entire year.

0:36:12.489 --> 0:36:13.770
<v Speaker 4>Coach, I know we've got to get you out of here.

0:36:13.790 --> 0:36:15.650
<v Speaker 4>You've got film session coming up with your players. That's

0:36:15.670 --> 0:36:17.450
<v Speaker 4>going to be the most fun film session you've ever

0:36:17.489 --> 0:36:19.989
<v Speaker 4>been part of. I'm calling my shop right now. Two things.

0:36:20.500 --> 0:36:22.700
<v Speaker 4>On the way out of town, Rutgers had fireworks planned

0:36:22.739 --> 0:36:26.300
<v Speaker 4>for the postgame celebration. Did you guys see the fireworks? Secondly,

0:36:26.420 --> 0:36:29.779
<v Speaker 4>your program got paid $ 1. 55 million to go in there

0:36:30.020 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 4>and take care of business. They don't give you the

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 4>check on the field. Is that direct deposit? What's the

0:36:33.460 --> 0:36:33.899
<v Speaker 4>story there?

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 6>No, yeah, it is not like... Happy Gilmore, give me

0:36:37.380 --> 0:36:40.010
<v Speaker 6>the check. No, it is not. I wish it was.

0:36:40.050 --> 0:36:43.210
<v Speaker 8>That would be kind of cool. But, yeah, you guys

0:36:43.230 --> 0:36:45.270
<v Speaker 8>have probably seen it. We had a little firework mishap

0:36:45.310 --> 0:36:47.070
<v Speaker 8>last year, so it was good to get the fireworks

0:36:47.090 --> 0:36:50.969
<v Speaker 8>flipped on the other side. But, yeah, and to your point,

0:36:50.989 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 8>this film session will be awesome, and then we've got

0:36:54.140 --> 0:36:55.380
<v Speaker 8>to move forward and get on to the next one.

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Coach, thanks a lot. You've got big stuff coming up.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Enjoy the season. Enjoy being the story of the day

0:37:00.020 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 4>because it happens so rarely in sports. It's great having

0:37:02.300 --> 0:37:02.779
<v Speaker 4>you on the show.

0:37:03.260 --> 0:37:06.419
<v Speaker 5>That's a program changer, that win, and he is– Young

0:37:06.500 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 5>coach there is a bright future. I'm glad that I

0:37:08.860 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 5>think he's a friend of the show too.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:10.580 --> 0:37:13.180
<v Speaker 4>Friend of the show. UMass football. We've always been fans

0:37:13.219 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 4>of UMass football. Really fun to have him on. We'll

0:37:15.900 --> 0:37:16.620
<v Speaker 4>keep an eye on that story.

0:37:16.660 --> 0:37:17.050
<v Speaker 3>That was great.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 6>I love there.

0:37:17.780 --> 0:37:20.009
<v Speaker 4>There's fireworks going on, but we're going to talk a

0:37:20.010 --> 0:37:22.169
<v Speaker 4>little Heisman trophy right there. Did you see me throwing

0:37:22.190 --> 0:37:24.370
<v Speaker 4>out the Heisman pose there in that graphic? That's what

0:37:24.390 --> 0:37:25.890
<v Speaker 4>we do every week here. We're going to do getting

0:37:25.910 --> 0:37:28.109
<v Speaker 4>the Heisman. Perloff and I got the Heisman a lot

0:37:28.130 --> 0:37:29.509
<v Speaker 4>in college. If you know what I mean, you know

0:37:29.530 --> 0:37:31.230
<v Speaker 4>what I mean? Let's get to it. I'm going to

0:37:31.250 --> 0:37:32.969
<v Speaker 4>start a little bit with the odds and there's different

0:37:33.030 --> 0:37:36.260
<v Speaker 4>odds on different places. You've got C.J. Carr of Notre Dame.

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 4>You've got Arch Manning. You've got Dante Moore of Oregon.

0:37:39.780 --> 0:37:44.410
<v Speaker 4>Darian Mensah. Julian Sane of Ohio State. Trinidad Chambliss. Jeremiah Smith.

0:37:44.450 --> 0:37:47.350
<v Speaker 4>That's kind of the upper tier. Josh Hoover of IU

0:37:47.430 --> 0:37:49.419
<v Speaker 4>is in that mix. Then it drops a lot. Early

0:37:49.460 --> 0:37:50.140
<v Speaker 4>thoughts on the highs.

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.100
<v Speaker 3>Wow, there's a ton of quarterbacks this year.

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.469
<v Speaker 5>There's so many. We talked about the potential draftees. That's

0:37:55.890 --> 0:37:58.549
<v Speaker 5>even more. Trinidad Chambliss might not be an NFL player,

0:37:58.570 --> 0:38:00.390
<v Speaker 5>but he's going to be awesome in college. His numbers

0:38:00.410 --> 0:38:03.090
<v Speaker 5>were great. I kind of like the dual threat guys

0:38:03.170 --> 0:38:08.130
<v Speaker 5>like Chambliss, maybe Lenore Sellers. You know, the pocket quarterbacks

0:38:08.250 --> 0:38:10.250
<v Speaker 5>get big numbers, but I think for Heisman this year,

0:38:10.270 --> 0:38:11.549
<v Speaker 5>you're going to need huge numbers.

0:38:11.710 --> 0:38:13.660
<v Speaker 4>And you know the Heisman, the Heisman. You have to

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.700
<v Speaker 4>have a story. Trinidad, the analyst of Ole Miss has

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.899
<v Speaker 4>a story. He's been there forever. I think he started

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 4>at Ferris State, for God's sakes. But, like, he got

0:38:20.900 --> 0:38:23.529
<v Speaker 4>spurned by Lane Kiffin. Ole Miss is a feel-good team.

0:38:23.969 --> 0:38:26.910
<v Speaker 4>If they take down LSU on national TV, Trinidad and

0:38:26.930 --> 0:38:28.569
<v Speaker 4>Chambliss jumps up into the race.

0:38:28.590 --> 0:38:30.790
<v Speaker 5>The problem is he doesn't have Lane Kiffin calling plays

0:38:30.830 --> 0:38:31.650
<v Speaker 5>for him.

0:38:31.750 --> 0:38:32.930
<v Speaker 3>That's a bit of a problem.

0:38:32.950 --> 0:38:34.710
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go to the favorite, C.J. Carr of

0:38:34.730 --> 0:38:37.310
<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame. His only issue is going in at the

0:38:37.370 --> 0:38:40.140
<v Speaker 4>favorite in September is rarely a good thing. Remember, Andrew

0:38:40.180 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Luck was the favorite.

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't want to peak too early.

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:43.859
<v Speaker 4>You never want to be the favorite in the highs

0:38:43.900 --> 0:38:47.500
<v Speaker 4>in September. November is better. The only big monster game

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.140
<v Speaker 4>that I shouldn't say that, but the big one is Miami.

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.140
<v Speaker 4>They have Miami, national TV, Notre Dame. He's going to

0:38:53.180 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 4>pile up yards, pile up numbers against some decent opponents,

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.740
<v Speaker 4>but that Miami game is do or die for the Heisman.

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:00.779
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, that's an interesting game. I'll get to

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:02.620
<v Speaker 5>that one in a second. I worry that the offense

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 5>is going to be a little too conservative, and they're

0:39:04.540 --> 0:39:06.219
<v Speaker 5>really not going to let C.J. Carr cook, especially because

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:07.580
<v Speaker 5>they're going to be killing some people.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.420
<v Speaker 4>Or if they're up 30-5 at halftime because there's a safety,

0:39:10.500 --> 0:39:12.060
<v Speaker 4>you know, throw a lot in the second half.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think C.J.

0:39:13.380 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 5>Carr is going to rack up the numbers, but that

0:39:14.940 --> 0:39:17.860
<v Speaker 5>Notre Dame-Miami game, That might be where my pick is

0:39:17.900 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 5>coming from, Paul.

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.700
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's moments away. Let's go to Arch Manning. Now,

0:39:21.700 --> 0:39:24.609
<v Speaker 4>Arch Manning has been a Heisman candidate since birth. And,

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.219
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's got to be a Manning who wins

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.140
<v Speaker 4>a Heisman. There's going to be Marshall Manning in four years.

0:39:29.180 --> 0:39:30.940
<v Speaker 4>Who knows who it's going to be? But Arch Manning

0:39:30.980 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 4>has opportunity for the Heisman. He's got the natural built-in storyline.

0:39:34.460 --> 0:39:38.390
<v Speaker 4>He plays Ohio State. He plays Tennessee. He plays Oklahoma, Florida,

0:39:38.870 --> 0:39:42.430
<v Speaker 4>Ole Miss, LSU, A &amp; M. Those are Heisman statement games.

0:39:42.469 --> 0:39:44.690
<v Speaker 4>He's got a bunch of chances to either play his

0:39:44.710 --> 0:39:45.989
<v Speaker 4>way in or out of the Heisman.

0:39:46.030 --> 0:39:46.450
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah.

0:39:46.510 --> 0:39:48.090
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you keep saying all that. Is that definitely

0:39:48.110 --> 0:39:51.049
<v Speaker 5>a good thing? Because you have to have a winning record. Remember,

0:39:51.170 --> 0:39:54.050
<v Speaker 5>RG3 was about 8-3 when he won it. But I

0:39:54.050 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 5>think Texas has to be in the playoff for Arch

0:39:56.580 --> 0:39:58.800
<v Speaker 5>to even consider getting the Heisman.

0:39:58.860 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if all those opponents are going.

0:40:01.140 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>To help him.

0:40:01.739 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 4>Now, you and I are big Heisman guys. We've always

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 4>gone to the Heisman Awards. I think there's some pictures

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.060
<v Speaker 4>of us doing the Heisman, hanging with Derrick Henry. I

0:40:08.060 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 4>don't know if they're going to show those or not,

0:40:09.300 --> 0:40:11.489
<v Speaker 4>but We're ready for your pick. I'm going to let

0:40:11.570 --> 0:40:15.029
<v Speaker 4>you go first. Who is your Heisen pick? Look at that.

0:40:15.430 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what you're doing, but Derrick Henry, I

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 4>think he likes what I'm doing. You're kind of doing

0:40:19.460 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 4>Broadway musical thing, though.

0:40:21.020 --> 0:40:23.620
<v Speaker 3>No, Paul, I don't think he liked it. First of all,

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:25.500
<v Speaker 3>he's a huge, huge man.

0:40:25.540 --> 0:40:27.950
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's like you with an extra 100 pounds on him.

0:40:28.140 --> 0:40:30.060
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he could have, with his pinky finger, could have

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 5>held us off. There's no way we're going to tackle

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 5>that man.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 3>So, interesting. You picked a running back picture there.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.850
<v Speaker 5>We don't get a lot of running backs anymore, but

0:40:37.910 --> 0:40:40.780
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going running back. But I'm not going quarterback

0:40:40.820 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 5>because I think the quarterbacks are all going to cannibalize

0:40:43.180 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 5>each other. I'm going wide receiver, do everything, man. Malachi

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 5>Toney out of University of Miami. I think he's still

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 5>18 years old, but he's the most exciting player in

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.879
<v Speaker 5>the country. I think that team is going to be unbelievable.

0:40:54.180 --> 0:40:56.260
<v Speaker 5>I think the offense is going to run through him.

0:40:56.700 --> 0:40:58.550
<v Speaker 5>He will get a lot of pub. And we've had

0:40:58.590 --> 0:41:01.730
<v Speaker 5>a couple wide receivers get the Heisman. We had Devontae

0:41:01.750 --> 0:41:04.669
<v Speaker 5>Smith and Travis Hunter, who did both ways. This reminds

0:41:04.690 --> 0:41:06.950
<v Speaker 5>me a little of Travis Hunter, Paul, because he's such

0:41:06.989 --> 0:41:07.790
<v Speaker 5>a versatile player.

0:41:08.130 --> 0:41:09.009
<v Speaker 3>I think voters are going.

0:41:08.930 --> 0:41:13.090
<v Speaker 5>To see he's unique and he's just absolutely spectacular.

0:41:13.190 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 4>I like this pick. It's a gutsy pick by you,

0:41:14.900 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 4>but he's a highlight machine. You need highlights to win

0:41:17.020 --> 0:41:20.859
<v Speaker 4>the Heisman. Desmond Howard won it with highlights, not necessary production. Look,

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to take the safe pick here. It's not

0:41:22.590 --> 0:41:24.330
<v Speaker 4>going to be sexy. It's going to be the safe pick.

0:41:24.690 --> 0:41:27.370
<v Speaker 4>Julian Sane of Ohio State. He's going to pile up yards. No,

0:41:27.410 --> 0:41:29.420
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going Julian Sane. I'm baiting you there. I

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 4>was going to go Jeremiah Smith or Julian Sane. I'm

0:41:31.300 --> 0:41:33.469
<v Speaker 4>not going that. I think Dante Moore is going to

0:41:33.510 --> 0:41:35.089
<v Speaker 4>pile it up. I'm not sure what a pro he's

0:41:35.110 --> 0:41:36.950
<v Speaker 4>going to be, but Dante Moore and Oregon are going

0:41:36.969 --> 0:41:39.130
<v Speaker 4>to roll through some people, and they like the Heisman.

0:41:39.150 --> 0:41:40.529
<v Speaker 4>They want to get the Heisman. They tried to get

0:41:40.570 --> 0:41:43.690
<v Speaker 4>it for Joey Harrington years ago. Dante Moore of Oregon

0:41:43.710 --> 0:41:45.330
<v Speaker 4>is my pick. I think it's going to be very,

0:41:45.489 --> 0:41:46.070
<v Speaker 4>very close.

0:41:46.230 --> 0:41:48.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's got his receivers back. I think his numbers

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.219
<v Speaker 5>are going to be huge. They have a tough schedule, too,

0:41:51.340 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 5>which is good or bad for the Heisman, right?

0:41:53.180 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's right. Coming up next, we're going to give

0:41:55.540 --> 0:41:57.860
<v Speaker 4>some other people the Heisman. We're going to have constructive criticism.

0:41:58.270 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 4>and wrap up the day with some picks. All that

0:42:00.219 --> 0:42:02.060
<v Speaker 4>and coming up more on Not So Fast with Paps

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 4>and Perloff.

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 5>Welcome back to Not So Fast, Perloff, and Paps. Okay,

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 5>we already had week zero, but I think we're safe

0:42:09.540 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 5>to do our national title picks now.

0:42:11.300 --> 0:42:13.420
<v Speaker 4>Now, have you been spending the whole week chopping them up,

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:14.919
<v Speaker 4>or are you still deciding as we speak?

0:42:15.380 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 5>No, no, I have my pick. I've kind of had

0:42:18.020 --> 0:42:20.390
<v Speaker 5>this the whole time. I went back and forth a

0:42:20.430 --> 0:42:22.009
<v Speaker 5>little bit, but I'm going to let you go first.

0:42:22.050 --> 0:42:23.830
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to be fair to you, you went Heisman first.

0:42:23.850 --> 0:42:26.450
<v Speaker 4>I'll go national title pick second. My one concern about

0:42:26.489 --> 0:42:29.009
<v Speaker 4>my national title pick is this team, will they be

0:42:29.070 --> 0:42:31.330
<v Speaker 4>challenging enough during the regular season? That's tipping my pick.

0:42:31.790 --> 0:42:33.529
<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame will be in the national title game. I

0:42:33.570 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 4>think they still have the running game. They lost some

0:42:35.180 --> 0:42:38.069
<v Speaker 4>running backs. They have a great defense line, and C.J.

0:42:38.110 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Carr is a top-level quarterback. My one concern is being

0:42:42.180 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 4>ready for that playoff run where you've got to win

0:42:43.900 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of ballgames against a bunch of good teams

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 4>because they're playing some teams like B.C. is not getting

0:42:48.300 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 4>you ready. SMU maybe will get you ready, but I

0:42:50.860 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 4>don't know if Stanford is getting you ready. So I'm

0:42:53.140 --> 0:42:54.620
<v Speaker 4>going Notre Dame, Texas.

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 3>National title game.

0:42:56.719 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 4>A ratings bonanza. The Manning brothers, Notre Dame, it's all happening.

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, listen.

0:43:03.380 --> 0:43:06.510
<v Speaker 5>I can't argue against either of those two teams. Texas,

0:43:06.530 --> 0:43:08.870
<v Speaker 5>it seems to me, has a long road. I know

0:43:08.890 --> 0:43:11.250
<v Speaker 5>they're ranked really high, but last year I was thinking

0:43:11.270 --> 0:43:12.629
<v Speaker 5>Texas was going to be my pick.

0:43:12.969 --> 0:43:13.790
<v Speaker 3>It didn't happen.

0:43:13.830 --> 0:43:16.110
<v Speaker 5>You really have that much faith in Arch and Sark

0:43:16.170 --> 0:43:17.049
<v Speaker 5>and everything going on?

0:43:17.170 --> 0:43:18.910
<v Speaker 4>I do this year, because if not now, when?

0:43:19.380 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 3>If not now, when? Okay. I also.

0:43:23.190 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 5>have Notre Dame in the national title game. I think

0:43:26.219 --> 0:43:28.660
<v Speaker 5>their style of play fits well with the college football playoff.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.860
<v Speaker 5>I think Marcus Freeman is a great coach, and he's

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.310
<v Speaker 5>really stacked talent, especially on the lines.

0:43:33.930 --> 0:43:35.870
<v Speaker 3>So Notre Dame's there, but they're going to lose, Paul.

0:43:35.930 --> 0:43:36.049
<v Speaker 7>Wow.

0:43:36.510 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm very sorry to say that. The Miami Hurricanes. are

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.509
<v Speaker 5>going to be this year's national champion. Now, the two

0:43:43.550 --> 0:43:46.210
<v Speaker 5>teams play on November 7th. It's really the first challenge

0:43:46.590 --> 0:43:48.770
<v Speaker 5>on the books for either team. I think you're going

0:43:48.790 --> 0:43:50.870
<v Speaker 5>to get a rematch, which will be fun. I don't

0:43:50.890 --> 0:43:53.589
<v Speaker 5>know if it's a rating of Arch Manning, but Miami

0:43:54.010 --> 0:43:55.570
<v Speaker 5>lost a lot of guys to the pros. Lost Reuben

0:43:55.590 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 5>Bain on defense, lost quarterback Carson Beck. I'm not worried

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.620
<v Speaker 5>at all. They totally restocked Darian Mensah at quarterback. Their

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.620
<v Speaker 5>D is going to be nasty this year. Malachi, Tony,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 5>that's why I have them in the Heisman because I

0:44:07.180 --> 0:44:09.110
<v Speaker 5>think they're going to be the number one team in

0:44:09.130 --> 0:44:09.910
<v Speaker 5>the country coming into the playoffs.

0:44:09.950 --> 0:44:12.220
<v Speaker 4>We should work in marketing. We just marketed two great

0:44:12.260 --> 0:44:15.509
<v Speaker 4>college football national title games. Miami N.D., Michael Irvin's on

0:44:15.630 --> 0:44:19.150
<v Speaker 4>one sideline. Jerome Bettis is on the other sideline. If

0:44:19.190 --> 0:44:21.890
<v Speaker 4>he's star-laden, you'll be going back to the 80s, Catholics

0:44:21.930 --> 0:44:24.580
<v Speaker 4>versus convicts, 30 for 30. You run that all month.

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 4>That would be the perfect national title game.

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.340
<v Speaker 5>By the way, I don't think we called Indiana Miami

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:30.899
<v Speaker 5>last year.

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.339
<v Speaker 4>No, we sure didn't. We've had a great week here

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.529
<v Speaker 4>on Not So Fast. Thank everybody in the building. Thanks

0:44:35.570 --> 0:44:37.570
<v Speaker 4>to Dan Patrick. We like to do a thing here

0:44:37.670 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 4>called Constructive Criticism. You tell us what you like, didn't

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 4>like about the show. Now, we only have time for

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>one today, but, Perloff, you're going to like this one.

0:44:44.060 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:44:44.410 --> 0:44:48.710
<v Speaker 4>It's a very heavy compliment for us. The lighting on

0:44:48.730 --> 0:44:49.730
<v Speaker 4>the show is phenomenal.

0:44:49.910 --> 0:44:50.930
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yes.

0:44:51.750 --> 0:44:55.049
<v Speaker 5>First of all, thank you, Troy, and you're absolutely right.

0:44:55.070 --> 0:44:57.370
<v Speaker 5>I am still shocked at how nice this studio is.

0:44:57.410 --> 0:45:00.050
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I looked through the Twitter feed for, like, Paul,

0:45:00.070 --> 0:45:02.810
<v Speaker 4>you nailed it with your warm take. Perloff, you're crushing

0:45:02.850 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 4>your NFC North preview. Didn't find those, but they said

0:45:06.060 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 4>the lighting is phenomenal.

0:45:08.300 --> 0:45:10.259
<v Speaker 5>Do you remember, Paul? I was pretty active in the

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 5>lighting process. I'm like, can you make me not look

0:45:12.739 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 5>so pale? And our boss said, I can try, but

0:45:16.660 --> 0:45:19.339
<v Speaker 5>I can't make any promises. But they did an amazing job.

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.299
<v Speaker 4>All right, it's time for NSFW. Not exactly what you

0:45:22.340 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 4>think it means. NSFW is the Not So Fast winner

0:45:25.420 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 4>of the week. Who in sports won? Who's just having

0:45:27.820 --> 0:45:29.299
<v Speaker 4>a good time? You want me to go or you

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<v Speaker 4>to go?

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<v Speaker 3>You go first.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm going to go Pete Crow Armstrong. Pete Crow

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong had a monstrous week, and it's still going on.

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<v Speaker 4>He is now the NL MVP in waiting. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>think someone could beat Otani when he's pitching and hitting.

0:45:43.170 --> 0:45:45.430
<v Speaker 4>And Pete Crow Armstrong leading off games with homers, like

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<v Speaker 4>they're against the Reds. Ending game with homers, like later

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<v Speaker 4>that game against the Reds. Hanging out with Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>He has the nickname. He has the game. He's got

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<v Speaker 4>the star power.

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<v Speaker 3>It's his week.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, a few weeks ago, it was pretty close.

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<v Speaker 5>Joey Otani and PCA, he's blown him out of the water.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the competition is over. But that being said, this

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<v Speaker 5>does not mean you're going to have postseason success.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a Cubs fan.

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<v Speaker 5>If you got the MVP and no World Series, are

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<v Speaker 5>you okay with that?

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<v Speaker 4>We just won this week. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. All right.

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<v Speaker 5>My winner of the week is in college football. We

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<v Speaker 5>don't talk about him as much as we used to,

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<v Speaker 5>but how about Deion Sanders in Colorado getting the W

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<v Speaker 5>at Georgia Tech? They were six and a half point underdogs.

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<v Speaker 5>This was a great win for a couple reasons. It

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<v Speaker 5>was a tough game, came down to the end. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>situational football, Colorado hasn't been great the last few years.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they sort of hung in there. I am

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<v Speaker 5>actually pretty excited. I like a low-key Dion. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>Dion has not been talking a big game at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to see him and his guys just coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, less pub, more production. He's a nice guy. We've

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<v Speaker 4>had him many times on the Dan Patrick Show, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's a good guy you root for. It was out

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<v Speaker 4>of hand a couple years ago. All right, a couple

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<v Speaker 4>more things. Let's talk about Monday's lead. What will Monday's

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<v Speaker 4>lead be on all the national shows?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to let you go first.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, college football obviously will dominate the weekend, but I

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<v Speaker 5>think an NFL story is going to sneak in there.

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<v Speaker 5>There's one quarterback competition left, and it's down in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it gets decided this weekend. And Michael Penix.

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<v Speaker 5>gets a starting job for the Atlanta Falcons. I think

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<v Speaker 5>the team's going to realize there's no future with Tua.

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<v Speaker 5>We have to find out what we have in Penix.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got more physical talent. He's learning the game even

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<v Speaker 5>though he's been hurt. I think it's going to be Penix. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>will it work, Paul? I can't guarantee that, but come Monday,

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<v Speaker 5>that is going to be your main headline.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to go Monday's lead. Good one by you, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go Monday's lead is Lane Kiffin, but

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<v Speaker 4>off the field. I think he is going to win

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<v Speaker 4>the game against Clemson. LSU will beat Clemson. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think the SEC is going to come back scorched earth

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<v Speaker 4>over the weekend if this actually plays out and they

0:47:44.050 --> 0:47:47.210
<v Speaker 4>get embarrassed on national TV. Greg Sankey, not a big

0:47:47.230 --> 0:47:49.630
<v Speaker 4>guy about losing. He's not real comfortable losing, especially to

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<v Speaker 4>his coaches that he's supposed to be kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>boss of. I think Greg Sankey lays in Elaine Kiffin

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<v Speaker 4>with some type of punishment, some type of possible suspension

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<v Speaker 4>next week. So that could be a monstrous headline.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got to see Lane win all year long just

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<v Speaker 5>for the drama.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, keep it friendly. You and I, $ 20. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>boot $ 20 on this one. LSU giving 10 to Clemson.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm letting you go first.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I got the Tigers. I got the— The LSU Tigers.

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<v Speaker 6>If you say the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the Death Valley team.

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<v Speaker 4>That would cover your bet.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>I got LSU. I think it's old school versus new school.

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<v Speaker 5>All those transfers are going to be good. It's going

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<v Speaker 5>to take a while to gel, but they're so much

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<v Speaker 5>more talented than Clemson.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take Clemson covering, not winning. Ole Miss giving six

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<v Speaker 4>and a half to your Louisville squad, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm all about Louisville this year. Neutral field. Lincoln Keen holds, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember that name. Cardinals not only cover, they win.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Ole Miss is going to go big. Thanks

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<v Speaker 4>for listening to the show all week. Dan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 4>on Monday, not so fast, right after that, right here

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<v Speaker 4>on NBC Sports Now. Great week.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it easy.