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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, welcome back to Ghost to Ghost. We've got a

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Speaker 2: couple hours of great calls for you, and again those

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Speaker 2: of you who sent an emails to Tom and did

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Speaker 2: not get called back because we got inundated with emails,

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Speaker 2: you're invited to call in with your story. So the

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Speaker 2: lines you're open and jump aboard. Let us start by

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Speaker 2: going to Keith and Seattle, Washington to get us started. Keith,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Hey George, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. What the what do you got

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Speaker 2: for us?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I'll call this the KT Perry Weekend. This is spring

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. The activity has returned to the Battle House.

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Speaker 3: And if there ever was a portugueist that deals with

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Speaker 3: preview of coming attraction, this is it. So this start

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Speaker 3: us on a Friday. This is March twenty fourteen. Me

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Speaker 3: and my girlfriend Tina. It's time living in a home

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Speaker 3: and I'm in my office upstairs office. It's a weekday nights,

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Speaker 3: about eight or nine pm ish. I'm typing feverishly on

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Speaker 3: the computer, just doing little stuff odds and ends. And

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Speaker 3: my kid. You not all of a sudden, it's out

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Speaker 3: of nowhere. The TV in our master bedroom comes blurring

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Speaker 3: on and it's playing loud music, I mean loud. I

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Speaker 3: get up from my chair and rush to the bedroom, peeing.

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Speaker 3: And my girlfriend at the time that's coming upstairs to

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Speaker 3: meet me. She had been downstairs. And we get to

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Speaker 3: the TV and yes, it's playing music, but there's no screen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the screen is black, but it's showing a

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Speaker 3: music channel, something music channel, whatever. But it's playing loud

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Speaker 3: music and it's weird. And Ten looks at me like,

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Speaker 3: why you turn on the TV loud? I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: didn't turn the TV on my office, so naturally we're

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Speaker 3: looking for abou a few minutes and I grabbed him

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Speaker 3: one control off the bed and I turned the TV off. Okay,

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Speaker 3: prom song right, the big deal? TV is weird. I

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Speaker 3: go back to my office. Temma goes back downstairs and

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Speaker 3: do what she's doing. I kid you not. Five minutes later,

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Speaker 3: damn loud music. She comes on again.

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Speaker 2: Jeez.

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Speaker 3: Now the second time we meet in the bedroom, guy,

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Speaker 3: I called end and say, hey, TV is back on.

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Speaker 3: We meet in the bedroom. We're stand in front of

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Speaker 3: this TV once again. Black scream but loud music. Okay,

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Speaker 3: now I noticed this time. Wait a minute, this has

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Speaker 3: been about five or six minutes that passed. This is

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Speaker 3: why is it playing the same song? It's the same

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Speaker 3: song that's being played, and it's the same lyrics. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and it's a Katie Perry song. At the time of

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, this song people can Look at Love, it

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Speaker 3: was a hit. The title of the song I didn't

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Speaker 3: notice at the time. It's called dark Horse. That's the

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Speaker 3: name of the song Katy Perry hits. And the lyric

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing is that it's playing is or the verse

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Speaker 3: are you ready for the Perfect Storm? And I'm paraphraseed

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Speaker 3: because I don't have lyrics in front of it, but

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Speaker 3: it's going with are you ready for the perfect storm?

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Speaker 3: You should not play with magic and because once your

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Speaker 3: mind there's no turning back. Now I'm looking at ten

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Speaker 3: that she's looking at me, and based on what we

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Speaker 3: see it already in the house, we know, okay, this

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Speaker 3: is a halting episode. We need to clock in and

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Speaker 3: we're a deaf coon for now. So I get the remote,

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Speaker 3: turn the TV off, and this time, George, this time

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Speaker 3: I unplugged the TV. Okay, and I think a little

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Speaker 3: because I looked at Tin and I'm like, yeah, mister

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Speaker 3: and missus potry guys, deal with that. I unplugged it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you, I gotcha.

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Speaker 3: Ah, no power even in T square or whatever. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I go back to my office ten and goes back

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Speaker 3: downstairs another five minutes past, so mind you, we're not

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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes into this, right, And I kid you and

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Speaker 3: I once again, the loud music starts blaring again. Okay,

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Speaker 3: same tone, same volume level, but high. Now I'm getting

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Speaker 3: they plugged the TV back in.

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Speaker 2: No way, that's a nerve.

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Speaker 3: That's a nerve I'm thinking of. I'm walking through the hallway,

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Speaker 2: They physically plugged it back in.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no no, that's what

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Speaker 3: It but keep in mind, it's the same song blurring

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Speaker 2: That's impossible, said.

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Speaker 3: The TV George. The TV is not plugged, Dan. Now

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Speaker 3: once again, it's the same song. Now, Katy Perry is

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Speaker 3: some people can do it the way it's it's less

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Speaker 3: than five minutes long. Okay, we're not fifteen minutes into this,

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Speaker 3: and the song is playing the same verse. It's it's

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Speaker 3: using some infinity or contact at the top streaming music

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Speaker 3: channel and it's playing Katy Perry's dark Horse. And I

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Speaker 3: and go to it and I was like, oh, that's

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Speaker 3: what it meant. But me and Tenna did stand in

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Speaker 3: lyrics as it's blaring in our ears. It's like, are

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Speaker 3: you ready for the perfect storm? Do you want to

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Speaker 3: play with magic? And once your mind there's no turning back.

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Speaker 3: That's the verse that's we're playing or playing now fifteen

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Speaker 3: minutes into this black screen. But the music channel dial,

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Speaker 3: you know the little channel on the bottom court less,

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Speaker 3: you know what music channel you're on is six sixty six.

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Speaker 3: I never used to listen to music through my television.

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Speaker 2: Why why were they playing around with you, Keith? What

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, this was a preview or precursor

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Speaker 3: the year before twenty thirteen. But we did it twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: Did you ever figure out who that was the lynch pin?

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Speaker 3: After that day or night? You could say it was

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Speaker 3: all downhill? The first Bible to catch fire? What happened

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Speaker 3: seventy two hours later? So they was telling us or

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Speaker 3: it whatever, you know, three times you know that number three?

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Speaker 3: Three times two times of charm? Are you ready for

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Speaker 3: the perfect star?

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Speaker 2: A Bible caught fire?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: This was Friday night. This happened on a Friday. The

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And that and going back to that Friday, I remember

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Speaker 3: is Friday. We had major activity Saturday Sunday. Sunday was

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Speaker 3: the big bang of it all with the Bible catching fire.

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Speaker 3: But from that point on, I mean, in spring of

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Speaker 3: two thousand and fourteen, began the return of the large objects,

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Speaker 3: small medium moments being thrown, waking up, finding all your

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Speaker 3: kitchen cabra, doors wide open, missing objects, Tina's missing jury,

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Speaker 2: Did you ever get rid of them?

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Speaker 3: Eventually moved out. It was just too much to handle.

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Speaker 3: But you know.

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Speaker 2: They stayed in the house. They didn't follow you.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's another story for another they did follow me.

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Speaker 2: That's another one for next year.

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Speaker 3: Keith.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, but you're lucky you've got your sanity with you.

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Speaker 2: I'd go nuts after that. Steve in Albany, New York,

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Speaker 4: Hi, Steven, Yeah, you didn't ask me after I droned

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Speaker 4: off and you didn't ask me. Did I ever have

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Speaker 2: Did you ever?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: That's why I didn't ask you.

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Speaker 4: Not what But remember when you interviewed me with the

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Speaker 4: cat with the guy in the car that was a

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Speaker 4: serial killer. Yep, I left something out and that was

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Speaker 4: about two weeks before that. I looked and I was

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Speaker 4: was a space staring at me from the mirror, the

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Speaker 4: rear mirror, and I turned around real fast, and it

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Speaker 4: was gone, just gone. And then I had a dream

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Speaker 4: that night in which the face came back and I

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Speaker 4: was involved with some sort of court hearing and running

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Speaker 4: through this real quick. The face was the guy that

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Speaker 4: two weeks later robbed me. That was the serial killer.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: And the courtroom was when I had to do the

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Speaker 4: grand jury to put him away for life. That was

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Speaker 2: Jeez, where is this guy now? Is he still in prison?

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's going to be in prison until he's like

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Speaker 4: eighty years old. I'm not going to get into all

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Speaker 4: the crimes he did.

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Speaker 2: But how many people did he how many people did

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Speaker 2: he kills? Stephen?

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Speaker 4: He killed two. But the FBI says now that when

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Speaker 4: you have two unrelated murders, you have the beginning of

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Speaker 4: a serial killer. I put him away, I helped put

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Speaker 4: him away before he started a spree. He was just starting.

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Speaker 4: And what he did to one of the corpses, I

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Speaker 4: can't tell you, no.

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Speaker 2: We don't, we don't want to hear that. I can

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Speaker 2: only imagine.

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Speaker 4: It's not what you think, but it could be what

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Speaker 4: you think. He uh, and it's what put him away

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Speaker 4: for the rest of his life, and it just the

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Speaker 4: guy is just trashed. And I had one guy picked

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Speaker 4: up in my hearse, not my hearse, my taxi one

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Speaker 4: day and he said, you're the guy that had the

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Speaker 4: guy who murdered the guy in the barbershop. Uh, You're

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Speaker 4: the guy that helped put him away. And I said yes,

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Speaker 4: and he goes. I think that was one of my

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Speaker 2: Wow, he knew, he knew. Thanks for the call, Steve,

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Speaker 2: and you're lucky you're still around with us after that.

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Speaker 2: Barb and Boise, Idaho, first time caller. Hello, Barbara, Hi,

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Speaker 2: how are you? I'm wonderful. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm just calling to I'm a first time caller.

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Speaker 5: I've listened to you and Art Bell since ninety three.

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Speaker 2: Since thank you, thanks for sticking with us.

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Speaker 5: And it's been since two thousand and nine my husband

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Speaker 5: and I lost our beautiful son. He was six foot six,

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Speaker 5: kind of tall like you, because we saw you when

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Speaker 5: you came to Boise. And he had this disease and

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Speaker 5: it got him. Okay, it just got him, and he

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Speaker 5: died at thirty two years old.

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Speaker 2: Oh young, right, oh very young. Sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Very yes.

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Speaker 5: So we did not know what you know. I knew

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Speaker 5: he wanted to be cremated, but we didn't know where

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Speaker 5: he wanted his ashes to be spread. So we held

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Speaker 5: on to him. You know, I had him on my

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Speaker 5: He loved music, so I had him on my stereo

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Speaker 5: my love of different sounds. Right, So we decided, okay,

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Speaker 5: he would like to go. He loved. He was a

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Speaker 5: fly fisherman, being so tall, excellent arm, beautiful fly fisherman,

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Speaker 5: and he was a motorcyclist and he loved to ride

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Speaker 5: motorcycles and four wheelers. So we took him and we decided, okay,

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Speaker 5: this is what I'm going to do. So we spread

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Speaker 5: them around in different spots in his favorite places here

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Speaker 5: in Idaho, and we sat down by the fire and

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Speaker 5: we're both, you know, kind of I'm wondering, did we

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Speaker 5: do the right thing? Did we do the right thing?

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Speaker 5: But we had his urn, and his urn was wooden

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Speaker 5: and on the outside of the urn was a fly fisherman.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 5: And so we put it in the fire. And I

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Speaker 5: kid you not, I am telling you the truth. And

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Speaker 5: I'm fighting back tiers to do this because I wrote

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Speaker 5: this down so I would never forget it. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be sixty eight here in November, and I'll never

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Speaker 5: forget it. You will never forget this. And we're looking

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Speaker 5: at this fire and we're crying and we're staying Scottie.

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Speaker 5: I hope we did the right thing. I hope we

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Speaker 5: did the right thing. This is where you want to be.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, that flame turned in to a

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Speaker 5: motorcyclist with his blue and white signature kiss protector and

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Speaker 5: his helmet, and we knew we did the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, was it life size?

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Speaker 5: It was just in the flames. You just saw him.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're sitting in a charity. Why it's not

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Speaker 5: life that's just in the flames right in front of

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Speaker 5: your eyes.

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Speaker 2: And clearly and you you both clearly saw this. I

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Speaker 2: mean you know, we knew what an incredible message from

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Speaker 2: your son.

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Speaker 5: His birthday was the eleventh of November, mine's the twelfth,

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Speaker 5: my husband's is the thirteenth, of course different years that

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Speaker 5: we just knew we felt that connection at that moment.

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Speaker 5: You sure did, Bar, It was the most wonderful thing.

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