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Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are back for our third episode of What in

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Speaker 1: the Winkler. My mom is not able to be with

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Speaker 1: us today, so I am filming from my room, which

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Speaker 1: is a lot less chic, but it will do. And

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Speaker 1: I have a really exciting guest today, our first real guest.

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Speaker 1: I mean the first was my dad, but that's not

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Speaker 1: really you know, he had to But one of my

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Speaker 1: best friends is joining us today. And before she joins us,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you guys a little bit about

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Speaker 1: this group of friends that I have had since I

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Speaker 1: was a little girl.

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Speaker 2: And we call each other the Lifers.

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Speaker 1: I wear a necklace that says Lifers on it and

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Speaker 1: all of our signatures are on the back. To me,

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Speaker 1: the Lifers are my lifeline. We talk all day long.

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Speaker 1: There's a group chat that is constantly I actually demute it.

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Speaker 1: I just like returned to it. And there's like thirty

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Speaker 1: text messages. And we have known each other our entire lives.

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Speaker 1: We're forty four years old. All of us were all

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Speaker 1: the same year in school. We're you know, we all

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Speaker 1: have been there for the biggest moments, the most exciting moments,

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Speaker 1: the saddest moments. We've been there for funerals and weddings

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Speaker 1: and babies and losing parents and heartbreak and huge life

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Speaker 1: changes and incredible jobs and different hairstyles. We've been there

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Speaker 1: for it all. It's a group of eight of us total.

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Speaker 1: And then there is my friend who's joining us today.

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Speaker 1: You guys know her as Kim Kardashian. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how else to describe her except.

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Speaker 2: For that we met when we were babies.

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Speaker 1: We have experienced so much life together before she became

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Speaker 1: the most famous person in the world.

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Speaker 2: And I remember the moment.

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Speaker 1: Where we all saw kind of we were all together

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Speaker 1: for Allison's bachelorette, and this was just as the Kardashians

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Speaker 1: was beginning, and she went from being just one of

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Speaker 1: our lifers to sort of being everyone's lifer. And I

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Speaker 1: remember leaving Vegas. We went to a club and we

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Speaker 1: had to be escorted out through the kitchen, which was

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Speaker 1: very bizarre, and all of us were so confused, and

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Speaker 1: we were there for people coming up to ask him

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Speaker 1: for her autograph, and we were all just.

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Speaker 2: Like, what's happening. And now cut.

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Speaker 1: To she's the most famous person in the world and

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Speaker 1: known to us as our lifer, and we love her

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Speaker 1: so much and I'm so grateful that she's doing this.

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Speaker 2: So let's let her in.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hi, So my mom is sick. She wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: join us, but so my best friend.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking her, taking your place. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you guys know who this is? Do you know who

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Speaker 2: this is? Hi?

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Speaker 3: Guys, it's Kim.

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Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. Should we talk about how we met?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I do even know how we did?

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Speaker 1: Well? First, we have known each other since we were

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Speaker 1: babies because of your dad. No, no, your dad and

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Speaker 1: Howard and Margaret duh d. And then I started Buckley

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Speaker 1: after you'd already left.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh and and then okay, guys, so we have

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Speaker 3: we have to explain this. So my dad was an attorney,

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Speaker 3: Howard white'esman, the super well known attorney. Uh is Zoe's

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Speaker 2: My dad, my brother's dad, my older brother's dad.

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Speaker 1: My mom and Howard were married for like five years total,

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Speaker 1: and then they got divorced, but they stayed really, really

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Speaker 3: He married Margaret. Yeah, and my dad used to date Margaret.

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Speaker 3: So they're both Armenian so Howard and my dad both

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Speaker 3: worked on the OJ case together, Howard at the beginning

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Speaker 3: and then my dad after Howard. So yeah, we have

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Speaker 3: known each other for a very very long time and

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Speaker 3: we are a part of the famous Lifers crew.

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Speaker 2: That's right now.

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Speaker 3: I know, people always hear me talk about my Lifers

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Speaker 3: and how I feel like I'm super grounded because of

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Speaker 1: And what's the best thing about the Lifers actually is

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Speaker 1: that Kim is the most grounded out of all of us.

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Speaker 3: So good or not?

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Speaker 2: Really? You think?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do? I do. I think that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's so amazing. I mean, it happens to

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Speaker 1: or a little boy or whatever, to like have that

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Speaker 1: followed through your whole life and see all the different

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Speaker 3: And how in all the different relationships that on I

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Speaker 3: got skik trips just to think like all of our

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Speaker 1: And do you remember when you and Simone and Allison

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Speaker 1: told me that my boyfriend was cheating on me, and

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Speaker 1: you guys like thought that you saw him in a

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Speaker 1: movie Nick and I didn't believe you guys, and I

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Speaker 1: stayed with him and then saw a picture of another

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Speaker 1: girl servicing him, and then I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: you guys are right. Like the things that we all like,

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Speaker 1: the stories, the things. It is so wild, yeah, to

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Speaker 3: How like like our families are each other's families. Like

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Speaker 3: when I think about you know, just like all of

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Speaker 3: I was dating TJ in high school and we broke

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Speaker 3: up for a period, I was like, we'd break up

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Speaker 3: and then I'd like linger, so like there was a

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Speaker 3: But we went back to your house and your dad

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Speaker 3: was he knew that I had broken up with TJ

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Speaker 3: and was waiting there with tea and cookies, where your

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Speaker 3: mom was but he's like, talk to the girls, tell

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Speaker 3: me how was the party, what's going on? Would give

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Speaker 3: him knowing that I was, you know, who knows, maybe sad,

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Speaker 3: and we had tea and cookies waiting for us at

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Speaker 2: So sweet.

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Speaker 1: He would just like he loved hanging after when we

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Speaker 2: Married, and in Hawaiian. It was in Hawaii. We were young.

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Speaker 2: I mean we were twenty three.

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Speaker 3: And four of us shared a room because like.

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Speaker 2: Me, Courtney and then the other that girl that was friends.

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Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: You and I slept together in Courtney and looks Courtney

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Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend was going to be there. He was

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Speaker 1: such a horrible person, and my mom called you and

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Speaker 1: Courtney and was like, do not let her do anything

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Speaker 1: stupid at this wedding. And I'll never forget he like

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Speaker 1: hooked up with the girl that was staying in our room. Remember,

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Speaker 1: why don't I remember I was so upset, I was

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Speaker 3: Well, it tracks a lot that you would just be upset.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know the detail. I

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Speaker 3: don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I would say I'm way more emotional than you would

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Speaker 1: you would you agree.

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Speaker 3: Yes, But I think that it's okay, Like I'm always there.

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Speaker 1: You are You're very, very very even, like you just

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Speaker 1: you you never sort of like get hysterical, which is

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Speaker 1: the best quality like that like disassociated, No, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not, it's not.

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Speaker 1: You are a little bit of even and you are

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Speaker 1: so like and if there's a problem, instead of going

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Speaker 1: to like a ten, you just are like we're going

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Speaker 1: to figure this out. We're gonna we we we we

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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, that's on what I've learned this past

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Speaker 3: year is my therapist. I can't believe I'm saying this

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Speaker 3: my therapist said because that was so not me. But

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Speaker 3: my therapist was just like, you are the problem solver,

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Speaker 3: so like you figure it out, and like that's what.

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Speaker 2: I love to do, is like you do it for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously if it's our friends

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Speaker 3: and things have of course, I think it also takes

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Speaker 1: I said to you the other day, I wish that

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Speaker 1: on our group chat, our lifeers group chat, I said,

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Speaker 1: I wish we just all lived on a compound and

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Speaker 3: That would be the dream.

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Speaker 1: That would be the dream because I realized, like, as

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Speaker 1: life is so crazy that you can do it, that

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Speaker 1: you have the support. And as our parents like start

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Speaker 1: to get older and stuff, you lost your dad obviously,

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Speaker 3: The first one out of like all of our friends

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Speaker 2: A doctor's it's like a concierge change it is.

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Speaker 2: It's like doctor, best botox, best internist. Where do I

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Speaker 3: Our kids? You know, allergic reactions. We're like pediatricians, we

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Speaker 3: are dermatologists.

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Speaker 1: I sent you a picture this week of Gus's leg

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Speaker 1: after he got a he got a vaccine, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, should.

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Speaker 3: What did it?

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Speaker 2: Have your kids?

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Speaker 3: By the way, that it's.

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Speaker 1: Normal, he just gets those, But you were like, call

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Speaker 2: For a moment.

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Speaker 1: I'd called the doctor's seventeen times.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I hope it's not going on this one.

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Speaker 1: But I think you and I talk a lot about parenting,

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Speaker 1: My first impression of you was that you were well,

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Speaker 2: And I think it's such an amazing thing. It's the truth.

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Speaker 2: She is she is she was so sad to miss today.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, we'll do it. We'll do another one when

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Speaker 1: Do you remember where we used to hang out. Where

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Speaker 3: Do you remember city?

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Speaker 1: It's not there anymore. They built onto it. It's like

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Quickly? But you always made me feel

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Speaker 3: You would be like, oh, I love your outfit. You'd

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Speaker 2: Have we ever had an argument? I don't think we

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Speaker 3: No. You know what's crazy is I barely fight with anyone,

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Speaker 2: Not really my thing, but something I do, and I

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Speaker 3: I think it's like it's just let's talk it out,

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Speaker 3: And if we don't see eye to eye, like we

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Speaker 1: or you're like you got to be stricter about this

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Speaker 1: or something, and I'm so grief.

446
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: You're said and done. Like I was about this with

447
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: someone else today about like giving yourself grace, like if

448
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: your kid says a bad word or like if something

449
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 3: and you could be mortified. You know. It's like I

450
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 3: get mortified when like like Saint took my phone today

451
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: and posted, like I saw into mind kid, and my

452
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 3: publicist is writing me like, this is what you're posting

453
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 3: on election Day? And I was like, it's a kid.

454
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 3: He has no idea. He like we posted a video

455
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: of something about the election, and I took his account

456
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Speaker 3: down just because he has to ask me before every post,

457
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 3: and so he's just started a fortnight account, and I'm like,

458
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: you got to give yourself grace.

459
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like everyone just has to relax.

460
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

461
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Speaker 1: I feel like we've just gotten to the point where

462
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: everyone's like so tightly wound and our kids are going

463
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: to make a million mistakes.

464
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: And I think sometimes you feel like your kid is

465
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Speaker 2: a reflection of you.

466
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you realize that, like they're their own people

467
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: who you know are going to have to make mistakes

468
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: and have to grow. It's really hard for me to

469
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: let my kids make mistakes. And really, yeah, it's I

470
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: want to fix it and I want to make it,

471
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, all better all the time.

472
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: And I think you are the type that if they

473
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: made a mistake, you're just like I'm so sorry, I'm

474
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: so sorry, I'm so sorry, you know, like you will

475
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: tripah both times apologize for y. Yeah.

476
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: You know.

477
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes I like when kids work it out themselves and

478
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 3: they figure it out themselves. Sometimes we have to intervene,

479
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: like that situation where I had to intervene for you.

480
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: With Oh God, this person was like being a parent,

481
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: was like, really I misunderstood something that I had said

482
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: to them, and like believed something about me that wasn't true,

483
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: and it was really hard for me, and I was

484
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: obsessing over it. And finally Kim just ran into this

485
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: person at a party and handled it for me. And

486
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: the person's been so nice to me ever since.

487
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: We'll call her on FaceTime face Life's Chat. I'm like

488
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: beef squashed.

489
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: Everybody in the life for Chat was like, Thank the Lord,

490
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: we can't hear about this for one more second. Yeah,

491
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: sometimes I just I make things into a bigger deal

492
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: a lot of the time.

493
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I don't make things a big enough deal

494
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: where because I like it takes a lot of work.

495
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: Like yesterday, you know, one of my kids was really

496
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: upset about something with their phone, and I was like,

497
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: you know what, then you just don't get it. And

498
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: it was tears the entire way to school, and I

499
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: just usually I'd say, okay, fine, here have your phone.

500
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 3: Just stop crying. That energy even if I don't say that,

501
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: that energy. And I was just like, you know what,

502
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 3: if I don't put my foot down and I don't

503
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 3: do this now and fight through the tears, as uncomfortable

504
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: as that is, yeah, always going to get their way,

505
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: the lesson won't be learned. And I tucked through it.

506
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: And then today same thing. Did not cry respected the

507
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: fact that there was no phone.

508
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: Right, it was just like you were like they knew

509
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: where you stood and it was done.

510
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Or like, tell me if your parents do this,

511
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: because this is the one really frustrating thing that my

512
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: mom does. My mom is like the most judgmental when

513
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: it comes to snacks and candy. I mean then, yeah,

514
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: has every candy, ice cream. It's like a kid's heaven.

515
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: So she invites us over and then my son, you know,

516
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: went into a freezer last night to get it's her birthday.

517
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: So she has cake and she and he goes, I

518
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 3: don't want cake, I want an ice cream instead, and

519
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: she's like, look at him eating that ice cream and

520
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, you have it, yeah, and you're judging me.

521
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen my parents' house where there's just

522
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: literally glass stars of candy everywhere, you know, but my

523
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: mom doesn't. My mom just will do it. And even

524
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: if I say no, she'll just hand them the candy.

525
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

526
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: And then if I say like, I really, we're not

527
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: doing that right now, She'll look at me with like

528
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: sad eyes and I'm like this is wild, Like I

529
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: don't want them to have the candy, and she'll be like,

530
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you, but she did.

531
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: Yeah she did. I think they think it's like they're

532
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: in like I do unlike them more because of that,

533
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: and I think that mine's the opposite. My mom judges

534
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 3: me like I'm the worst because I allowed them to

535
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: have an ice cream that they had at her house.

536
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: Did she have a good birthday?

537
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: She did have a good birthday. It was a chill birthday.

538
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: I got everyone pajamas with like Chris Jenner faces all

539
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: over them. I need a pair loped into the door.

540
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: I'll send you a pair. They're actually like probably the

541
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: most comfy pajamas, but when you walked into the door,

542
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: there was like a big basket of like these pajamas

543
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 3: and you had to take a pair and put them on.

544
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: And she just wanted to stay home. My grandma's like

545
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: ninety and it's like hard for her to yuh, to

546
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: get around. So I just want to tea with my

547
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: grandma and love that and all the kids. So we

548
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: all came and saw her and hung out with her,

549
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 3: and it was so cute.

550
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: I love that.

551
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Someone asked me, what's the best gift that you've ever

552
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: gotten me?

553
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: Oh, what was your answer?

554
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: My life's necklace.

555
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we this was this was I was, well,

556
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: didn't I show you what they were going to be? No,

557
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: I really want it. I'll show you the renderings because

558
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 3: maybe we'll do that, but I wanted, you know, like

559
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: it'll say like the names, like have you seen like

560
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: Lindsay's It says like yah, yeah yeah, and it's like

561
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: the names, but yeah, all diamonds with diamond chains, like

562
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: all diamonds. I think Simone was helping me with it,

563
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: and she was like, I don't think everyone would like

564
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: all the diamonds.

565
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: I would love diamonds all the time.

566
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: I texted our group chat and I was like, if

567
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: this podcast does well, I will buy us all diamonds.

568
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: They will be small, but I will buy us all

569
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: all a diamond of some sort.

570
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: That's all life first diamond necklace.

571
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this is your one day off and you

572
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: did this for me, and I love you so much

573
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful.

574
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: Because I would do anything for you.

575
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: I would do anything for you.

576
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: I know you would. That's like the best feeling in

577
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: the world, as I actually know you would.

578
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: I really would.

579
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: We'll hide in a bathroom and talk to you when

580
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: you're also hiding in a bathroom to get away from

581
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: your kids, and I'm it's true new advice and it's

582
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: true's from mind to talk to you until you are calm,

583
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: and I will do that any day of the week.

584
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: What would you say is like the best advice for

585
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: having a long lasting friendship like we all have.

586
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: You know, that's really a good question because I think

587
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: that you definitely need to have the mentality that like

588
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: if we didn't talk all the time, we still could

589
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: pick up right where we left off. That energy is there. However,

590
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 3: we don't have that. We talk every single day. All

591
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: of us say something in the chat every day, whether

592
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: it's like a news story or old pictures that we

593
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: found or stories or you know, like the dermatologists advice

594
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: or something. There's always something in there. So I think

595
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: we all do a really good job at nurturing our friendships,

596
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: you know. And I think that that is important, that

597
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: like you can't let too much time go. It is

598
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: great to have those friendships where you could just pick

599
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: up and sometimes they are like that, but ours isn't.

600
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, sometimes if I get

601
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: really busy, like Alison wrote me the other day and

602
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: was like, you know, since we'd seen each other but

603
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: maybe a couple of weeks ago. She's like, do you

604
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: know that we haven't physically seen each other since Idaho?

605
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: And I was like, are you kidding me? It was

606
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 3: like August or something, and I was like, that's insane.

607
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because life gets so busy.

608
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why for my birthday I didn't even

609
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: want to do anything. And I was like, fine, let's

610
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: just do a life for a dinner, like it's no

611
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: big deal. And I did that because she could get

612
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: sensitive and I but her being sensitive is.

613
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: Just because she loves you totally.

614
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: But it like actually helps because it gets us to

615
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: all be together. And yeah, it's into perspective sometimes where

616
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, wait, you do have to nurture. So

617
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: even though none of us have really had fights, it's

618
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: like there are those moments where it's like, hey, I

619
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: know you're really busy, but like you're never too busy

620
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: to come see us or hang with us for a second.

621
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: And that is like the truest thing.

622
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: You know.

623
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: The grass is greener where you water it like that, Yeah,

624
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: and ships are greener where you have to water them.

625
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: Also, people like talk about how sometimes they feel like

626
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: competition in their friendships and in our group, like there's zero,

627
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: which is so weird because I think women sometimes that's

628
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: like the and like that's I don't know, that's the narrative.

629
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 3: And even if two of the girls are like into

630
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: you know, kind of similar like branding stuff, there's never competition.

631
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: It's always like everything is just to like build each

632
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: other up. I mean a lot of us, like you said,

633
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: like do different things and have different as.

634
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Every day we're congratulating one like Oh my gosh, I

635
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: saw this. This was amazing. Oh my gosh, I saw

636
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: I saw that skims At. It was so good. I

637
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: saw Alison, I saw your give beauty, like whatever it is.

638
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: We're all like, you know, always so excited for one another,

639
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: and it's so it's so it's so real, you know,

640
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: like we are all better because we have each other

641
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: in our lives, which is such a beautiful thing.

642
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: Phide and conquer where we're like, okay, this is going on.

643
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: You do this, you do this, you do this, you

644
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: do this. There is not a day where some thing

645
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: not important happened in my life where I don't come

646
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: home and there's a note or food, like if there's

647
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: something that's like you know, there'll always be food from

648
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: you guys, my favorite restaurant or will always send food

649
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: to another life. Or flowers. There's always flowers for every event,

650
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: for everything, And I think those little things are just

651
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: always such a good reminder of like we got you.

652
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: I remember when I was having like a really hard

653
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: parenting moment and I got I came home and I

654
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: just I think I called you crying. It was so

655
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: it was just like a hard time, like it was

656
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: a hard season of parenting and there were flowers there

657
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: from you, and the card said You're an amazing mom,

658
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: And it's up on my wall because I just like

659
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: try to remind myself of that all the time. You know,

660
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: like you can make mistakes. You can not always say

661
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: the right thing in life. You know you're gonna make

662
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: a million mistakes.

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Speaker 3: But it's crazy how we always thought our parents had

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Speaker 3: their shit together, I know, And like now that we're in.

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Speaker 1: The adults, we're the parents at the party, Like that

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Speaker 1: is crazy.

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Speaker 3: That is crazy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're still twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's winging it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we all and as long as your intention, I mean,

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00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: our intentions are always to be the best and to

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: do the best, and we make mistakes and then we

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Speaker 1: repair it, you know. But I also think like if

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00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: one of us ever does hurt another one's feelings, like

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00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: it's never intentional, but we always take responsibility and say, like,

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00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, that was never my intention. You know.

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Speaker 1: Like I was thinking, was there anyone ever that like

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00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: tried to like infiltrate our group? But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that there was because we're so tight. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: always allow we always have other people Lala is like

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Speaker 1: a Sloe.

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Speaker 2: Chloe is an honorary lifer.

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Speaker 3: I think like Jen is like an honorary absolutely over

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Speaker 3: there's like a few that.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll sister, so Chloe and Jenmeyer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think we're also really really good at

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Speaker 3: We all for some reason feel the same exact way

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00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: everyone else and so well, it's like an unspoken thing.

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Speaker 2: Like it is, oh, you're nice, like we.

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: Know exactly and it's just a look, like we don't

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00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: have to say it. We can be in a room

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00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: with someone and if we feel I also think there's

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Speaker 3: like this thing about like the lifers where people know

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Speaker 3: how lucky we are. Like so many messages that I've

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00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: received lately is just like you're so lucky that you

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00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: have each other. You're lucky that you have you know.

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Speaker 1: And we're lucky to have each other for like the

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00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: amazing times and also for the hard times. Like we're

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00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: just so lucky because it makes you feel less lonely.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes life, especially when you're the adult, can feel

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Speaker 1: like lonely at times because you feel like you're going

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00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: through something or whatever. We've all all of us have

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00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: been through things that really hard, and we've all been

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00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: there to just hould each other down. And I think

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Speaker 1: that that's like the best thing that I could ask for,

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Speaker 1: totally cry.

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Speaker 3: The best, the best, Like I couldn't I say this

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00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: like every time I give a speech about like whether

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Speaker 3: it's my birthday, and like I actually and so we

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00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: we hit the jackpot. We hit We did jackpot of

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00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: friends in friend group. And it's really rare because some

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00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: people just you know, like we both have the same

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00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: family support, so we know what we would expect in

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00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: our friends and like to drama. And that's the thing

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Speaker 3: is like none of us bring the drama so busy

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00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: in our life that we're like we don't. We only

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00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: want the good energy. And then there's it's so funny.

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Speaker 3: I ran into Sam Polker the other day and she

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00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: was just like I knew you were having like an

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00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: off day or whatever when I saw you, because our

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00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: family bond is so strong that like I would just

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Speaker 3: know even if I hadn't seen you in so long.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, there are those like family

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00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: that we have the lifers have, Like we just have

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00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: this family bond that it's like some things that just

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00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: don't have to be said.

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Speaker 2: It's just such an.

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Speaker 3: Unspoken support system. But we have the same level of

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00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 3: like what we expect from our family and what we've

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Speaker 3: gotten from our family, and even how you were talking

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00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 3: about Margaret and Howard, that's like extended family. Usually everyone

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00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: would not be so cool, but they are. And so

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00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: we expect that level of like support and love from

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Speaker 3: our friends, from our family, from our extended family, like

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00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: from from everyone, and we won't settle for anything less.

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Speaker 2: And we're fiercely protective of each other.

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Speaker 3: Fiercely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like there are times when I want to, like go

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Speaker 1: to your comment section and just start like.

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Speaker 3: I know you've sent me things, and I'm like, don't, don't,

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Speaker 3: it's not.

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Speaker 2: I've had to erase.

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00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's not that serious, and you I know,

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00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: but it's.

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Speaker 1: Like we're just so protective of each other, which is

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Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I love them, I love you, love you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this worse.

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Speaker 1: I am emotional. That was really special for me. I'm

751
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: can't believe that we're doing this podcast. And the fact

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00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: that I got to have my best friend on even

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00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: though my mom couldn't join, and I did it by myself,

754
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: which was scary, but I did. It was a big

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00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: deal for me, and I feel like having amazing friendships

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00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: in your life is everything and I wouldn't be the

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00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: person I am without these friendships. We've go back thirty

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00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: plus years and I'm so grateful. I believe that friendships

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00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: kind of like shape who you are. Their relationships there

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00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: are just important as your husband and your kids, everything,

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Speaker 1: and in order for me to be the person I am,

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Speaker 1: I rely on these friendships. So thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: me for this episode of What in the Winkler