Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into Fantasy pros. This is
Speaker 1: leading off live the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Joel Rico, joined today by my dear friend Baba, and
Speaker 1: we are going to be bringing you through all the headlines,
Speaker 1: all the news and notes, a couple injuries, a fun
Speaker 1: fact about my favorite pitcher in baseball, and actually kind
Speaker 1: of a shorter injury report than usual. Babba. It's been
Speaker 1: just a brutal gauntlet every time we've recorded over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks, but a fairly small injury report today
Speaker 1: and an exciting prospect called. So I'm very much looking
Speaker 1: forward to wrapping up the week with you, my friend.
Speaker 2: Yes, me as well. It's always good to chat a fun,
Speaker 2: little little set of news, notes and more. And the
Speaker 2: eye injuries helped. We had a small Thursday of action,
Speaker 2: I'll say that much. That helped a ton. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we have a very important topic to get us started
Speaker 2: today and it'll get the fantasy world and baseball world
Speaker 2: buzzing on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as it should. Kate Anderson getting the call from
Speaker 1: the Mariners he will be making his major league debut
Speaker 1: on Saturday. I saw some conflicting reports Saturday or Sunday.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's gonna be Saturday either way. Get
Speaker 1: him in your lineups if you can pick him up,
Speaker 1: Go on the waiver wire and see if he's still available.
Speaker 1: Somebody messaged me last night saying that he wasn't stashed
Speaker 1: in their league somehow, So you never know. Go take
Speaker 1: a look out there on your waiver wire. Kate Anderson
Speaker 1: has been doing some historic stuff in the minor leagues
Speaker 1: this year. Is a third pick in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five draft. Is a one oh six ERA over ninety
Speaker 1: three innings, one hundred and thirty five strikeouts, and thirteen
Speaker 1: walks on the season. It's been an unbelievably dominant year,
Speaker 1: and Vad Seddler pointed this out on Twitter last night.
Speaker 1: He had one outing that he just got blown up
Speaker 1: May fifteenth, five e in runs outside of that, like,
Speaker 1: the ERA is already just barely over one and there's
Speaker 1: one really bad kind of blip start there. If not
Speaker 1: for that, the ERA would be like zero point four
Speaker 1: or something like that. He looks like he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a stud bob, but he's obviously got the pitcher's park
Speaker 1: that he's going to be going into I'm pretty excited
Speaker 1: for Kate Anderson. The question is are we fully unloading
Speaker 1: every remaining fab dollar we have to get him at
Speaker 1: this point?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you are? Did do I fab preview with
Speaker 2: Bloomfield on Bubbing the Bloom last night, and obviously Kate
Speaker 2: Anderson is the topic of conversation this weekend in the
Speaker 2: fab streets. We kind of narrowed it down to give
Speaker 2: yourself like three or four bucks a week for the
Speaker 2: final four weeks after this week. That's kin. So you're
Speaker 2: talking about unload the budget. That's where our brain is
Speaker 2: because there's really nothing like if there's someone else that
Speaker 2: gets called up, shocker, Okay, cool, But this is the
Speaker 2: one everyone's been waiting for. When it comes to pitching.
Speaker 2: We saw Joshua Biez last week. That's a whole nother
Speaker 2: story right now. But Kate Anderson has been great. I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be awesome. I'm always a little cautious
Speaker 2: on these guys. It's all double A pitching. Hasn't got
Speaker 2: the triple A totally fine, not saying he can't do it,
Speaker 2: but like the levels of talent that he's still crossing
Speaker 2: through here. But he's awesome. He's limited all the damage.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, he's striking everybody out. Cubs team's not
Speaker 2: an easy walk in the park. But yeah, he must
Speaker 2: see TV and hopefully the Mariners keep him going at
Speaker 2: least five innings like he was in the minors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. Not really a soft landing for
Speaker 1: him with the Cubbies. Who if you look in the
Speaker 1: month of August, they have the fourth best offense in
Speaker 1: Baseball thirty home runs they've hit in August. I think
Speaker 1: we mentioned this on Wednesday show, or maybe I mentioned
Speaker 1: it on the show with Jeff Erickson actually, which will
Speaker 1: be coming out this evening tomorrow morning, depending on when
Speaker 1: you're watching. But the Cubs are not an easy matchup
Speaker 1: right now. Let's say you pick him up. Are you
Speaker 1: starting him immediately? I feel like you kind of have
Speaker 1: to at this point with Kate Anderson, but maybe you don't.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just keep him on your bench for one
Speaker 1: start and see how he looks against major league hitters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in theory, you kind of have to, but he's
Speaker 2: definitely not a muss start. I probably would not start
Speaker 2: him on this game. I'd add him to have him
Speaker 2: going forward, because that's what we want to see when
Speaker 2: it comes to Kate Anderson. But it's also like, okay,
Speaker 2: so that the manners go six man now, and which
Speaker 2: is probably what they should do. Does Bryce Miller go
Speaker 2: to the bullpen because he's been horrific. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of what ifs in this scenario. But like so we
Speaker 2: mentioned he's got the Cubs on Saturday. Kate Anderson has
Speaker 2: at Toronto next weekend. Great matchup. No offense to you, Joe,
Speaker 2: that's a really good matchup following weeks at home against
Speaker 2: a depleted Day's offense. Pretty solid. I'd see he's been
Speaker 2: facing minor league hitters. There you go. But then it's
Speaker 2: at Sacramento the following week, so it's like one of
Speaker 2: those and it's at Coors after that. So buckle up
Speaker 2: with your Kate Anderson schedule, but enjoy the good starts
Speaker 2: and just be be cautious. I think the year of
Speaker 2: Kate Anderson's twenty twenty seven, this is just a nice
Speaker 2: little taste before the year ends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Toronto has been a little bit
Speaker 1: better as of late. They're like thirteen and six, thirteen
Speaker 1: and seven in the last twenty. It is not because
Speaker 1: of the offense. I was writing an article last night
Speaker 1: and looking back, I really like to look in three
Speaker 1: weeks sample sizes for offensive production. That's a Kevin Hasting
Speaker 1: thing that he's just owed upon me. But over the
Speaker 1: last three weeks, Toronto has a ninety one WRC plus.
Speaker 1: You can still stream against them, even though they've been
Speaker 1: a little bit better as of late. Maybe just pitch
Speaker 1: around allehandro Kirk because he's been lighting the world on fire.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't think you really need
Speaker 1: to worry about the Blue Jays too much. Let's talk
Speaker 1: to Jordan Walker and by I'm gonna give you the
Speaker 1: floor here in a second, because he had a big
Speaker 1: day hit three three run homer. He added another RBI
Speaker 1: as well. You took him the first round of the
Speaker 1: meatball draft, and I want to get your take on this.
Speaker 1: I know you don't like it when we talked about
Speaker 1: the draft without you there.
Speaker 2: You're here now. It's not without it's not without me there.
Speaker 2: I always say people, there's fifteen people in the draft,
Speaker 2: just get someone from the draft in there.
Speaker 1: I'm just giving I'm just giving it years. You know,
Speaker 1: I love Anyboddy. Yeah, Jordan Walker was a pick we
Speaker 1: talked about on Sleeping the Bus yesterday and it was
Speaker 1: the probably the most I don't want to say shocking,
Speaker 1: but the most surprising pick in the first round. Probably
Speaker 1: looking at a Camon Arrow judge with wood Sodo tattoos,
Speaker 1: Alvarez were all kind of expecting at Ellie, you know,
Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez, Jordan Walker. It's probably justified based on what
Speaker 1: he's done this year, but it still felt a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: That's sticker shock that we were talking about the other day,
Speaker 1: So you have the floor. Why is Jordan Walker a
Speaker 1: first round pick in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: And sticker shock is the name of a lot of
Speaker 2: these picks that we have issues with. And I actually
Speaker 2: listened to the sleep in this about an hour before
Speaker 2: this show, so I am well versed on what took
Speaker 2: place on that show. I don't disagree, because, yeah, it
Speaker 2: is a surprise. Jordan Walker isn't even drafted in most
Speaker 2: leagues this year. He's one of the top waiver wire
Speaker 2: like ads the entire season, so I totally get that's
Speaker 2: quite the jump that people will talk about that weren't
Speaker 2: in the first round. Heck, he wasn't in the first
Speaker 2: twenty seven rounds of most drafts this year, but it's
Speaker 2: kind of an accumulation of things. It's the talent that
Speaker 2: we've always thought Jordan Walker had. It's a guy that's
Speaker 2: likely going to go thirty plus home runs, twenty plus steals.
Speaker 2: Maybe he has like a thirty five to twenty five
Speaker 2: potential in him. These are all what if? This is
Speaker 2: what we're doing this time of the year. It's also
Speaker 2: a twenty four year old and I've always been a
Speaker 2: guy and my co host Bloomfield, he's way more cautious,
Speaker 2: wants to see it once or twice, and I get
Speaker 2: it to an extent. But I've also changed the way
Speaker 2: I view things these days because this base the world
Speaker 2: of baseball we live in now, is becoming much of
Speaker 2: a younger man's sport. We're seeing these prospects come up
Speaker 2: and they do things. In the fact he's twenty four,
Speaker 2: who's to say he's not finding his world. PCA went first. Overall.
Speaker 2: We went into the last draft season thinking he was
Speaker 2: like nothing because of that second half, and he's probably
Speaker 2: worth it now. Is Jordan Walker a first round pick?
Speaker 2: I think so? Is he gonna be that way by many?
Speaker 2: Probably not? But it's the argument that can be had,
Speaker 2: especially when guys after him like I've never been an
Speaker 2: lle guy. I agree. I understand that people like Kelly
Speaker 2: that's fine, But like C. J Abrams absolutely love him.
Speaker 2: He's having a career. You're just like Jordan Walker. I'd
Speaker 2: rather have Jordan Walker in the outfield than C. J Abrams,
Speaker 2: jay Ram love him. I think he's still very grateful
Speaker 2: or solid. He's getting old injuries or adding up. Be careful.
Speaker 2: Jackson Cheerio doesn't run like Jordan Walker can run. Corbyn
Speaker 2: Carroll doesn't have the power like Jordan Walker could run.
Speaker 2: Always hurt. So like when we look at the Outfield podcast,
Speaker 2: who you Rodriguez, that is your closest comp is We're
Speaker 2: I'll give you because he's been a thirty thirty guy
Speaker 2: to me. But it's all kind of in the eye
Speaker 2: of the beholder. It's like the Lord of the rings,
Speaker 2: my precious. So it depends on how you want to
Speaker 2: look at it. And I understand so many people are like,
Speaker 2: look at the Babbitt spikes. He still hits the ball
Speaker 2: on the ground a lot, like a lot of these
Speaker 2: things I fully understand, but this is also a potential
Speaker 2: five category stud Jordan Walker the comp I think I
Speaker 2: made on My show with Ryan on Tuesday, Jordan Walker
Speaker 2: could be what everyone in the first round in the
Speaker 2: past years wanted Kyle Tucker to be. That's who Jordan
Speaker 2: Walker can be. And no one blinked. And I at
Speaker 2: a first round Kyle Tucker. So I want to at
Speaker 2: least throw that out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you've laid it out really well.
Speaker 1: And the conflict Spoor keeps making is Derek Lee. And yeah,
Speaker 1: physically you could see it. Statistically you could see it.
Speaker 1: Derek Lee was a guy who had hit thirty plus homers,
Speaker 1: he had a forty six home run season. He'd chip
Speaker 1: in between ten and twenty steals there in his peak years.
Speaker 1: He'd give you a good batting average. Could definitely see
Speaker 1: that outcome. And I don't hate the pick. I think honestly,
Speaker 1: it's so early to love or hate any pick. And
Speaker 1: that's part of the exercise here. You guys are totally
Speaker 1: flying blind. There's no adp, there's no rankings. Guys can
Speaker 1: get hurt over the next two months of the season.
Speaker 1: Guys could come out of nowhere and look great. It's
Speaker 1: the hardest draft that will take place throughout the year.
Speaker 1: I think Walker's probably more of a second rounder, which
Speaker 1: is fair, but I don't have a huge, huge problem
Speaker 1: with it. He's giving you twenty six homers, He's already
Speaker 1: been pushing close to one hundred rbi already, he's got
Speaker 1: the steals, he's hitting for average. And something that I've
Speaker 1: looked at a lot more over the last couple of
Speaker 1: years is bat speed. His bat speed needs to the
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons has gained about a mile an
Speaker 1: hour seventy seven point three up to seventy eight point one,
Speaker 1: and then he gained another mile an hour this year,
Speaker 1: going up to seventy nine point two, which is like
Speaker 1: ninety ninth or one hundredth percentile, almost an eighty mile
Speaker 1: an hour bat speed. There's a ton of talent here,
Speaker 1: and if he continues to progress and next year, if
Speaker 1: Jordan Walker, you know, this might be a crazy take,
Speaker 1: but if Jordan Walker is like the National League MVP
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven, it wouldn't be overly surprising if
Speaker 1: he continues that progression. Super hyped prospect. I think it
Speaker 1: was my first or second year going out to Arizona
Speaker 1: that he was the talk of the Fall League, and
Speaker 1: it looks like it's finally paid off this year for
Speaker 1: Jordan Walker. So help me to give you any trouble there.
Speaker 2: No, you know what that sounds like. I'm hearing you're
Speaker 2: buying in. We need to go on Shark Tank and
Speaker 2: do a Fantasy Baseball Shark Tank. That's what we need
Speaker 2: to do. Right here.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one hundred thousand dollars for ten percent
Speaker 1: of your Jordan Walker.
Speaker 2: And I totally understand how this one can fall flat
Speaker 2: on its face, get it, But I'm shooting for more
Speaker 2: the ceiling play here than the floor with him.
Speaker 1: It's also worth noting the last year in this draft,
Speaker 1: in the first round, Bubba took Junior Camanaro took a
Speaker 1: bunch of crap from people, and that paid out pretty
Speaker 1: well for Bubba. And I believe Bubba is a previous
Speaker 1: winner of this week.
Speaker 2: I won the very first one. This is the fifth
Speaker 2: year I won the very first year. So yes, so.
Speaker 1: Bubba does know what he's talking about. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to give him crap here, but.
Speaker 2: Oh I get no. I think it's healthy conversation. That's
Speaker 2: why it's very interesting to see because I agree that
Speaker 2: you can make arguments for a bunch of players in
Speaker 2: the back end of the first round right now.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see over the next couple of
Speaker 1: months if Jordan Walker does finish out as a first
Speaker 1: round pick, if he is getting drafted there regularly, I think,
Speaker 1: you know worse, he's a top twenty pick in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven drafts. Whatever happens down the stretch here, but
Speaker 1: it's time that we talk about a blue Jay. We've
Speaker 1: lasted eleven minutes here, So let's get to Shane Bieber,
Speaker 1: who had a really good night last night, and it's
Speaker 1: the second consecutive really good one. This one was against
Speaker 1: the Rays, seven innings of one run ball while striking
Speaker 1: out seven. And if you look on the graphic we
Speaker 1: have here on screen over his last two outings, it's
Speaker 1: only two runs and thirteen innings of work for Shane Bieber.
Speaker 2: Is he back?
Speaker 1: Is he back in the circle of trust? Because he's
Speaker 1: been so far away from the circle of trust this season,
Speaker 1: But these last couple starts, coming on the verge of
Speaker 1: fantasy playoffs, I feel like people are gonna start to
Speaker 1: buy in. But should they?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been my conundrum. Like when I saw his
Speaker 2: stat line yesterday, after I got off of work and
Speaker 2: I was like wow, like he just did it again,
Speaker 2: and it's back to back starts. Because throughout this kind
Speaker 2: of comeback season, it's either gets blown up. He throws
Speaker 2: well and then he gets blown up like it's it's
Speaker 2: never like consistent with Beab so far, or he's a
Speaker 2: bunch of walks, there's no strikeouts. Every start has a
Speaker 2: it's a it's like a box of chocolates with Shane
Speaker 2: Bieber right now, and to see two in a row
Speaker 2: is very very interesting with the Beabs. But like over
Speaker 2: the last month, it's a three six six era, a
Speaker 2: one two two whip, a four or five Xcira, so
Speaker 2: it suggests a little luck, but still four to five.
Speaker 2: It's quality start. Love it or hate it, that's life.
Speaker 2: But the part that gets me is so the last
Speaker 2: thirty one days last month, and you mentioned the last
Speaker 2: two starts, we seemed the twelve case to one walk,
Speaker 2: but if we take a little larger sample here, it's
Speaker 2: still a nine percent K to walk. It's still a
Speaker 2: forty percent ball rate. So that's not what we want
Speaker 2: to see command wise, and obviously it's been helped by
Speaker 2: a six walk effort not going to deny that, but
Speaker 2: it's an eight point five percent swinging strike like in
Speaker 2: his start yesterday or his last two starts, the two
Speaker 2: dominating starts, it was still a thirty five percent ball rate,
Speaker 2: so increase, but only a nine point seven percent swinging strike.
Speaker 2: He's not dominating per se, and a lot of fly balls,
Speaker 2: but he does look better. To your question, I am
Speaker 2: not fully bought in. I am still terrified of Shane
Speaker 2: Bieber because he just doesn't seem dominant, but he seems
Speaker 2: not bad. I'll go that route. And he gets Kansas
Speaker 2: City next week, which is very enticing, So if you
Speaker 2: want to stream beabs for now, won't be fully opposed
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking at it where we're seeing. Nothing can change,
Speaker 1: of course, but as of now, Kansas City, Cleveland at
Speaker 1: the Athletics, which will be a hard no, big no,
Speaker 1: big noe, the biggest no we're gonna give on the
Speaker 1: show for quite some time probably, and then at home
Speaker 1: to Detroit is the one after that, so he probably
Speaker 1: started against Detroit. I guess you see what happens against
Speaker 1: Kansas City and Cleveland. But even if he throws a
Speaker 1: perfect game and both of them, I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: would start him in Sacramento.
Speaker 2: No, not a chance.
Speaker 1: He's he's on the road back to trusting him if
Speaker 1: he continues, you know, giving you these type of outings.
Speaker 1: Maybe not necessarily this dominant every time out. But let's
Speaker 1: say he finishes the last month with like a mid
Speaker 1: three's Era one two type of whip. Will he be
Speaker 1: somebody that you think can return to his previous form
Speaker 1: next year? Would you be drafting Shane Bieber thinking that
Speaker 1: you might be getting a cy Young again at some
Speaker 1: point or do you think those days are behind us?
Speaker 2: I think the cy Young days are gone. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's happening again. You never know, like things could happen.
Speaker 2: He's coming off the surgery, excuse me, the second year,
Speaker 2: but he'll be thirty two next year. We know how
Speaker 2: that slowly starts to go. Is he could still be
Speaker 2: very good, Like he's more of an SP three for
Speaker 2: fantasy wise for me. I don't know if say it
Speaker 2: is going to ever be there, but he could still
Speaker 2: be very very serviceable. He's not quite Aaron Nolea yet,
Speaker 2: I'll go that far if you want to use those
Speaker 2: kind of comps. But he's working his way that direction,
Speaker 2: which still means he's very serviceable in the right streaming environment,
Speaker 2: so that not a complete trash on him.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about another picture and Grant Holmes, a guy
Speaker 1: who was flirting with a no no for a little while. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think he took it into the sixth inning, ended
Speaker 1: up allowing one hand. I believe he walked three. And
Speaker 1: there's been an up and down season for Grant Holmes,
Speaker 1: but three of his last four outings have been scoreless.
Speaker 1: Six shoutout innings against Miami, six shoutout innings in the Bronx.
Speaker 1: He had a really bad one against Arizona, and then
Speaker 1: six shutout against the White Sox yesterday. Overall, I mean,
Speaker 1: the whip is problematic. It's almost like early season k
Speaker 1: Cavali in a sense because you're getting decent eras, but
Speaker 1: they're coming with like a one thirty whip. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, he hasn't given up more than three
Speaker 1: earned runs outside of that previous one. It was May
Speaker 1: first was the previous real blow up start he had.
Speaker 1: So are we trusting Grant Holmes at this point? Boba?
Speaker 1: I know it is you know, playoffs or approaching fantasy playoffs,
Speaker 1: or maybe you're already in there. Next start is the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: after that at Washington, after that verse Tampa. Dodgers haven't
Speaker 1: been great though recently. I wonder are you willing to
Speaker 1: start him against the Dodgers in a deep league? You'll
Speaker 1: start him in a twelve team or shallow or it
Speaker 1: definitely depends on what you have. Because Grant Holmes is
Speaker 1: he's been this guy all year and even last draft season.
Speaker 1: People have the same conundrums with him. It's yeah, era
Speaker 1: three six four on the year, last month three four
Speaker 1: five awesome, But as you mentioned, it's a one three
Speaker 1: two whip on the season, one two four over the
Speaker 1: last month, which the last month's palatable. You can live
Speaker 1: with that, but he doesn't do a lot of things
Speaker 1: that woo you. It's an eight percent k to walk
Speaker 1: on the season. It's which is really.
Speaker 2: Strange, Joe, because he has a twelve point six percent
Speaker 2: swinging strike on the season that shitt equate too closer
Speaker 2: to a twenty four to twenty five percent k rate.
Speaker 2: He has an eighteen percent k rate, so he's not
Speaker 2: finishing things off, which is quite frustrating. Gives up the
Speaker 2: long ball just enough to tilt you. He's a roller
Speaker 2: coaster ride. That's what Grant Holmes is and more often
Speaker 2: than not, as you've noticed, you'll survive. But you're in
Speaker 2: the post to playoffs right now. I would try to
Speaker 2: go other directions if possible, because that's the next couple
Speaker 2: of matchups are very, very challenging.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the Dodgers over the last few
Speaker 1: weeks they're at ninety four w RC plus they have
Speaker 1: a sub three hundred on base rate as a team,
Speaker 1: And yeah.
Speaker 2: You can you can attack him for sure.
Speaker 1: And the thing though, I feel pretty confident attacking them,
Speaker 1: but a guy of Grant Holmes's talent level, he can
Speaker 1: give up eight and runs. Anybody give up eight and
Speaker 1: runs against the Dodgers. It's just even when a team
Speaker 1: like that is struggling, just given the talent in their lineup,
Speaker 1: it still worries me on any given day, which any
Speaker 1: team can get you on any given day, but the
Speaker 1: Dodgers in particular, it's a little bit scary. So maybe
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Speaker 1: Ian Seymour, and he's a guy. We did a live
Speaker 1: show here that Bubba was on in the preseason. I
Speaker 1: guess it was before the preseason. It was more the
Speaker 1: end of last year in Arizona, brought on a bunch
Speaker 1: of different people to talk about their favorite picks of
Speaker 1: the year, and Frank Stanfel highlighted Ian Seymour, and a
Speaker 1: lot of us were on board. It looked like he
Speaker 1: was going to be fantastic this year, and then he
Speaker 1: didn't get us a job in the rotation to start
Speaker 1: the year, allowed five and runs in relief in the
Speaker 1: first day of the season. It's looked like a disaster.
Speaker 1: But Ian Seymour over the last couple of months has
Speaker 1: looked really, really good, really ramping up the strikeouts. A
Speaker 1: little bit of a tough outing yesterday against the Blue Jays,
Speaker 1: gave up three home runs, but they were all solo shots.
Speaker 1: He did strike out eight, and the strikeout totals have
Speaker 1: been incredible for Ian Seymour. I'm a huge fan and
Speaker 1: I think that going in the next year he'll be
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players to draft. I feel like
Speaker 1: the surface stats might keep some people away. Still, if
Speaker 1: you're looking at an era that starts with a four,
Speaker 1: the whip is still actually the whip has come down
Speaker 1: to one fourteen, so maybe he's not going to be
Speaker 1: as cheap as I'm hoping for. But mostly just wanted
Speaker 1: to highlight how good Ian Seymour has been and how
Speaker 1: stupid the Rays were for not just starting the year
Speaker 1: with him in the rotation.
Speaker 2: Bubba. Yeah, he's been out standing. Went in round eleven
Speaker 2: of that meatball draft. I think that's going to go
Speaker 2: higher once a season comes around next year. So that's
Speaker 2: a heck of a pick by Ryan Rufe, just to
Speaker 2: highlight even just the recent run you mentioned the last
Speaker 2: couple months. Last month two nine four era one to
Speaker 2: one whip, which the Rays love to be with. Like rafts,
Speaker 2: he has the raspus in the bloodline going right now.
Speaker 2: But more impressively, it's a thirty one percent carry to
Speaker 2: a four percent walk for the quick math majors, it's
Speaker 2: a twenty seven percent ko walk with a fourteen point
Speaker 2: four percent swinging strike. Joe, it has been. He's just
Speaker 2: been electric. He gives up a ton of fly balls,
Speaker 2: but if they're not touching, it doesn't matter. He is
Speaker 2: that good and I think he's gonna be quite an
Speaker 2: intriguing next season.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's not like a big stuff god
Speaker 1: guy coming into the year ninety five stuff ninety six
Speaker 1: pitching plus and we were still interested in Now those
Speaker 1: numbers and stuff is not the be all and end all,
Speaker 1: but he's gained eight points on his stuff. His pitching
Speaker 1: plus has gone up from ninety six to one oh one.
Speaker 1: I really like the arsenal, I really like the park
Speaker 1: to pitch in as well as there's a lot to
Speaker 1: like about Ian Seymour. The only thing is just praise.
Speaker 1: Just please make him a starter from opening day on
Speaker 1: and don't take him out of the rotation. That's all
Speaker 1: we're asking for. We're not asking a lot here, but
Speaker 1: just really hoping we get thirty starts at Ian Seymour.
Speaker 1: Next year it's Gavin Williams time, though, and I want
Speaker 1: to give Bubba hatsip here because you were all in
Speaker 1: on Gavin Williams. I remember doing leading off with you
Speaker 1: down the stretch last year talking about Gavin Williams, who
Speaker 1: had a good year results wise. It was a low
Speaker 1: threes era but a high whip and still some inconsistencies.
Speaker 1: He's figured it out down the stretch in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five and in twenty twenty six he has been amazing.
Speaker 1: Eleven strikeouts yesterday against the Giants tour and runs over
Speaker 1: five and two thirds innings and if you are watching
Speaker 1: here on YouTube. You'll see the most outings of ten
Speaker 1: plus strikeouts this year. Jacob Mezerowski, surprising nobody is number
Speaker 1: one and then tied at number two Dylan Cease and
Speaker 1: Gavin Williams nine double digit strikeout games for him this year. Bubba,
Speaker 1: give yourself a pat on the back because you were
Speaker 1: all over this one.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that every once in a while, blind squirrel
Speaker 2: finds nut whole thing like that, but yeah, the other
Speaker 2: cool factor. I had to read the graphic for a
Speaker 2: minute there. He also is the third player to two
Speaker 2: hundred ks of season, joining the mizz and Ceas. So
Speaker 2: he's he's been so good improvement since kind of like
Speaker 2: pitching is a game where once that guy, the guy
Speaker 2: finds out his pitch mix and his I guess release point.
Speaker 2: Some of these guys are super talented, and Gavin Williams
Speaker 2: is showing next. We saw glimpses of it last year.
Speaker 2: This year, it's it's impressive watching him deal.
Speaker 1: He's been great and I think that price is going
Speaker 1: to be fifty top fifty.
Speaker 2: Bloomfield got him at the second pick of round four
Speaker 2: on Tuesday night and I thought that was that's his
Speaker 2: sp one because he waited a little bit on pitching.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's that's pretty good, and it might
Speaker 2: go a little higher once for things really get figured
Speaker 2: out in March.
Speaker 1: Once pitching gets pushed up, maybe a third rounder something.
Speaker 2: Like that, because that's basically like pick forty seven forty eight.
Speaker 2: I think he's in the I think he's in the
Speaker 2: third round for sure, if he finishes this year healthy
Speaker 2: and yeah, he's their sp one and he's in SP
Speaker 2: one and Fantasy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't push back on that. I wish I
Speaker 1: had more shares. I wish I forecasted this the way
Speaker 1: that you did. I want to shout out Van Rod,
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Speaker 1: so thank you for that. And Fabby Davis Junior also
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Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot of good performances so far.
Speaker 1: It's time to get to a clunker. George Kirby was
Speaker 1: absolutely lit on fire by the Brewers sixer and runs
Speaker 1: in the first inning. He did end up going three
Speaker 1: in a third, but that does not really salvage the
Speaker 1: line so much. A four eighteen era and a one
Speaker 1: thirty six whip on the season, Bubba, I think we
Speaker 1: talked about George Kirby a few weeks ago, and my
Speaker 1: opinion is not getting rosier as the weeks go on. Here.
Speaker 1: I thought that he was like one of my bold
Speaker 1: predictions this year was George Kirby American League Cy Young.
Speaker 1: That is obviously not gonna happen. And I'm starting to
Speaker 1: think that George Kirby is not even somebody that I
Speaker 1: really want to be invested in, given the lack of strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Given you know, we thought the whip was safe the
Speaker 1: whip is not apparently safe. I'm kind of out of
Speaker 1: the George Kirby business at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the team. I've always been out on
Speaker 2: the George Kirby business, so Ryan's been Team Kirby's with.
Speaker 2: It's a battle every off season with me and Bloom,
Speaker 2: But it's just what you mentioned. One big big part
Speaker 2: for me as the lack of strikeouts. It's a ton
Speaker 2: of pitch to contact. He doesn't have to blow you
Speaker 2: away stuff. What used to be his calling card was
Speaker 2: his command and that's slowly deteriorating as well this year.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of a combination of the two. Like
Speaker 2: you mentioned it, it's five of the last or three
Speaker 2: and the last five starts at least five runs he
Speaker 2: has basically allowed. I think it's like sixteen runs in
Speaker 2: those three starts. He has a seven to one to
Speaker 2: two eer and a one seven to one whip. Over
Speaker 2: the last month on the season, it's a one three
Speaker 2: to six whip, which is not what you sign up
Speaker 2: for with George Kirby. So it's brutal. Their whole team
Speaker 2: is scuffling offense pitching. But like Bryce Miller, George Kirby
Speaker 2: there's a reason we started the show with a call
Speaker 2: up to try to spikes things up in Seattle.
Speaker 1: I mean, looking at this pitching staff from where they
Speaker 1: were like a year ago, it's like one of the
Speaker 1: best pitching staffs ever assembled, probably. And now you got
Speaker 1: Wu hurt, not great, Kirby hurt, not really hurt. He
Speaker 1: was hurt last year, not great this year, Castillo gone,
Speaker 1: Ryce Miller, I'm not even sure what the real Bryce
Speaker 1: Miller is hurt and then looking amazing and then terrible again.
Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert is the only one still standing there that
Speaker 1: we would have thought a year ago. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the best rotation in baseball. They're not anymore. They certainly
Speaker 1: are not anymore. Maybe they will become one again with
Speaker 1: Anderson and Sloan, but it's been a very bad year
Speaker 1: for Seattle, for both teams in the American League Championship
Speaker 1: Series last year. It's been a really really bad season.
Speaker 1: Matt McClain, Well, mention, Matt McLain, It's funny yesterday I
Speaker 1: mentioned I've recorded with Jeff Erickson Rereds fan. I wore
Speaker 1: my Matt McClain T shirt for that game, And what
Speaker 1: does Matt McClain do he hits a Grand Slam in
Speaker 1: a loss of the Cardinals. I mean, he's got twelve homers,
Speaker 1: he's got fifteen steals, but he just creeped up over
Speaker 1: the Mendoza line again yesterday. The stat line for the
Speaker 1: season is almost comically bad. He has thirty three RBI,
Speaker 1: he only has forty six runs, a little bit of
Speaker 1: fantasy juice with the twelve and fifteen, and he's still
Speaker 1: got a ten percent barrel rate. That speed is up
Speaker 1: from last year sixty nine point seven to seventy one
Speaker 1: point six. But I wonder is there any interest in
Speaker 1: Matt McClain anymore? Is he gonna be, you know, a
Speaker 1: by dirt cheap next season? Just considering how bad second
Speaker 1: base is, it's still a good ballpark. It's a decent
Speaker 1: lineup around him. Are you still gonna be willing to
Speaker 1: take a chance on him? Because I feel like I
Speaker 1: probably will. The price is gonna be so cheap, I'll
Speaker 1: probably have a couple shares.
Speaker 2: Yes, I will definitely be invested. I actually mentioned to
Speaker 2: on last night's FAP Show to kind of look in
Speaker 2: to see if he's available, Like you don't have to
Speaker 2: play him every week, but at least in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 2: it's more importantly, it's like, yeah, the season as a
Speaker 2: whole has been really bad for Matt McLain. But since
Speaker 2: he came off the il July thirtieth, it's seventy six
Speaker 2: plate appearances, he's hitting two thirty nine, which I know
Speaker 2: is not great, but you just mentioned on the season
Speaker 2: he has got over two hundred, Like, so we'll live
Speaker 2: with two thirty nine. And that's with the two seventy
Speaker 2: nine babbits, So like there's unluckiness there four homers, four
Speaker 2: steals over that stretch, which we're back to the you know,
Speaker 2: we thought we'd have a twenty twenty guy on our
Speaker 2: hands at one eleven WRC plus his defense I saw
Speaker 2: Cameber the tweet I saw has actually been really good.
Speaker 2: That's why they've kept him in the lineup this long.
Speaker 2: He's a young player, he's had the injuries. Like who's
Speaker 2: to say who he really is? We don't know, but
Speaker 2: I think he's a lot better than what we've seen,
Speaker 2: and we're starting to see glimpses of that this past
Speaker 2: you know, three weeks or so since he's been back.
Speaker 2: And I will be buying low unless something catastrophic happens
Speaker 2: in September.
Speaker 1: Feels like another lifetime ago where Matt McLain was the
Speaker 1: biggest riser in the preseason and he was going up
Speaker 1: fifteen or not fifteen rounds but like fifty picks, seventy
Speaker 1: picks because of his spring training stats. And yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels like we're in a different universe. I've got a
Speaker 1: couple questions. Let's let's get to them here. It is
Speaker 1: a Friday, so let's have some fun. Joe g Friend
Speaker 1: of the Show twenty twenty seven. Gavin Williams or Chris Sanchez.
Speaker 1: Holy crap, I gotta go Chris Sanchez still, but it's
Speaker 1: closer than I would have thought.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. It is still Chris Sanchez. But that
Speaker 2: is extremely close. And honestly, I wouldn't argue you if
Speaker 2: you went Gavin Williams in that respect, but I'm still
Speaker 2: going to go Christrapher Sanchez.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sanchez, like the whip has actually been surprisingly not
Speaker 1: great this year. It's over one point two now. He's
Speaker 1: been buoyed on Player Raiders by the fact that he
Speaker 1: has sixteen wins and a ton of strikeouts and the
Speaker 1: era is still good. But that whip is a silent
Speaker 1: killer for the sp four in draft season. I mean
Speaker 1: you drafted Schooble. It's worked out even though he's got
Speaker 1: you know, he missed some time with the injury schemes.
Speaker 1: Brutal crochet, brutal Sanchez has hurt your whip, although he
Speaker 1: has helped you. Overall, not a great year for drafting
Speaker 1: pitchers in the first round in twenty twenty six. This
Speaker 1: one will be directed right for Bubba. We actually posted
Speaker 1: a video on our socials last night along these lines,
Speaker 1: which sp would you prefer rest of season, Bubba, Jacob
Speaker 1: Webb or your guy Ben Joyce.
Speaker 2: I'll take Ben Joyce. I think Web is outstanding. It's
Speaker 2: really close. If you're gonna tell me Web has the
Speaker 2: job the entire season, I might stick with Web. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go Joyce. He won't go back to backs, but
Speaker 2: he's been very, very good. Palencia is getting activated from
Speaker 2: the AL on Friday. I still think Web keeps the
Speaker 2: job for now. That could change it sometime. Just remember
Speaker 2: last year Keller kept the closing gig when Polincia came
Speaker 2: back for the rest of the season, So anything can
Speaker 2: happen in Chicago. Web's been outstanding though nothing against him.
Speaker 2: I'll take Joyce who has the job though for sure.
Speaker 1: I think that's the co sign for me as well.
Speaker 1: I like Web, but I think I think Joyce is
Speaker 1: your guy there. We talked about him on that show
Speaker 1: with Jeff Erickson as well. I've I've promoted it into
Speaker 1: the ground at this point, but make sure you guys
Speaker 1: check that one out. It'll be out later tonight on
Speaker 1: the YouTube, and I think tomorrow morning we're gonna aim
Speaker 1: for on the podcast feed game Ova Hanio Suarez, Austin
Speaker 1: Riley or Nolan Aronado rest of season. I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that Eronato's even in this group again is a
Speaker 1: testament to how good he's been over the last month
Speaker 1: or so. I don't have a super strong feel here.
Speaker 1: I think maybe i'd go Suarez, but I don't really
Speaker 1: feel strongly to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you play matchups? No, I go to fight
Speaker 2: to pick one. I go Suarez. But yeah, I have
Speaker 2: no real strong take here. They're all going to have
Speaker 2: their like three games. We're like, oh they're back, and
Speaker 2: they've got like a week that just makes you want
Speaker 2: to bang your head against the walls. So be prepared.
Speaker 2: He swore gets great American for half his games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a good stretch. I have him in
Speaker 1: my home league, and I was just looking at him
Speaker 1: the other day, like over the last month, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's hit seven homers, and yeah, he's hitting one ninety
Speaker 1: one during that stretch as well. So you take the
Speaker 1: good with the bad, and it's mostly been not great
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Griffin Conine or cole carrog
Speaker 1: Ress the season, we've both been CO nine fans. There
Speaker 1: are some worries I think about some of the plate
Speaker 1: discipline metrics, but for straight power, Conine has been amazing.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going Conine here. I think I'm going Conine.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go CO nine too. Kig's very good. Nothing
Speaker 2: against Kragu just Conine jumps off the page for fantasy
Speaker 2: purposes at least for now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like them both, And honestly, the Rockies have
Speaker 1: surprised me a little bit. It's been a pretty solid
Speaker 1: year for random Rockies value. You know, runfield has been
Speaker 1: pretty good. There's been a couple of guys that have
Speaker 1: popped up here and there that have actually provided value
Speaker 1: on the Rockies. Moniacs had a good season. Most of
Speaker 1: the last few years that I've been doing The Analyst,
Speaker 1: the Rockies have been just you avoid them, you don't
Speaker 1: even need to really cover them at all. But this
Speaker 1: year things have changed a little bit to their credit. Yep,
Speaker 1: Max Clark or Griffin Conine. Rest of season. I gotta
Speaker 1: go Conine there.
Speaker 2: It's Codine pretty easily. Clark's gonna be a good story.
Speaker 2: He's hit. He's hit the rookie wall after three weeks.
Speaker 2: He had a great series in Sacramento, and it's kind
Speaker 2: of been like he's good, but I think he's got
Speaker 2: a little bit farther to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mason Montgomery or Justin Martinez. I gotta go Mason
Speaker 1: Montgomery there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Montgomery for sure.
Speaker 1: I really like Martinez. Like last year, I drafted a
Speaker 1: ton of Justin Martinez, but Montgomery's skill set is so
Speaker 1: great and I think that the job is probably his.
Speaker 1: I think he has two saves the last two weeks
Speaker 1: or three saves in the last two weeks, and it
Speaker 1: seems like he is the hot hand. So I would
Speaker 1: go with Mason Montgomery. Any help for Charlie Condon probably
Speaker 1: not this year. I don't think he's gonna do much
Speaker 1: for fantasy teams this year. Heading into next year, I
Speaker 1: know Welsh has been a fan. He's talked about him
Speaker 1: on prospecting with the Welsh He'll be on a few
Speaker 1: of my teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's hope for him in the future because like
Speaker 2: there's no form to play right now. That's like even
Speaker 2: Zach Fiene's in a platoon, which is comical, so there's
Speaker 2: nothing you can do there.
Speaker 1: And one more here from Joe cam Smith or Lawrence
Speaker 1: Butler in a deep roto. I am more partial to
Speaker 1: cam Smith. Butler's been good recently. If you wanted to
Speaker 1: go Butler, I don't really hate it, but I personally
Speaker 1: like Smith more as a player. What do you think here, Bubba,
Speaker 1: I'm going law dog Lawrence Butler on that one.
Speaker 2: Gets the Sacramento games. He's actually played phenomenally over like
Speaker 2: the last month, Cam Smith, he's streaking in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Won't deny that. But it's been another disappointing season in
Speaker 2: cam Smith's world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm gonna give him a mulligan there.
Speaker 1: It's being so young and being the centerpiece of a
Speaker 1: big trade and having to change positions. I'm still I'm
Speaker 1: still a fan of Cam Smith for next year. But
Speaker 1: I don't have any problems if you guys wanted to
Speaker 1: go with Lawrence Butler right now, he's been He's been
Speaker 1: really good. Guys. I want to remind you about my playbook.
Speaker 1: It is still late in the year. We get it
Speaker 1: like there's there's not a lot of time left, and
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Speaker 1: Let's talk. Jacob de gram I tease it at the top,
Speaker 1: but he became the second fastest pitcher of Major League
Speaker 1: history to reach two thousand strikeouts. The only guy who
Speaker 1: beat him there was Chris sale By about thirty five
Speaker 1: thirty six innings, and it's a pretty good leader board here,
Speaker 1: You Darvish. Pretty surprising to me that you Darvish is
Speaker 1: third on this list, followed by Pedro Martinez, your boy,
Speaker 1: Garrett Cole, and then the big unit Randy Johnson. Jacob
Speaker 1: de Gram had an amazing start yesterday with six innings.
Speaker 1: I think it was one hit, ten strikeouts. A guy
Speaker 1: actually messaged me on my Patreon chat saying Jacob deGrom
Speaker 1: just hit the waiver wire in my league, should pick
Speaker 1: him up. I was like, yep, yep, yep, pick him
Speaker 1: up right now. Doesn't matter even if he has a
Speaker 1: bad start tonight, Like de Grom should obviously not be
Speaker 1: available anywhere. He's had a bit of a rough stretch,
Speaker 1: and obviously he showed what he's still capable of yesterday.
Speaker 1: My question, Bubba, at this point is is Jacob de
Speaker 1: Grom locked in as a Hall of Fame in my mind?
Speaker 1: If I had to vote, I'm I'm putting him on
Speaker 1: my ballot. He's getting a check on the ballot. I
Speaker 1: think it's the best picture talent wise that we've seen
Speaker 1: in the last decade. But will he have the accumulative numbers.
Speaker 1: Getting to two thousand strikeouts is obviously a positive for him,
Speaker 1: but you know, growing up, for me, the number was
Speaker 1: always three thousand strikeouts. So are the voters will they
Speaker 1: have adapted enough by the time to Gram's on the ballot,
Speaker 1: probably seven or eight years from now, that they'll put
Speaker 1: him in the Hall.
Speaker 2: You think they should they The key thing you mentioned adapted,
Speaker 2: Like you know that he used to always be three
Speaker 2: thousand k or three hundred wins and five hundred home
Speaker 2: rug There was like benchmarks that the game's so different
Speaker 2: now you can't go that direction. You mentioned one of
Speaker 2: the best pictures we've seen de Gram at his peak
Speaker 2: was the closest thing we've seen since Pedro Martinez. Like
Speaker 2: that's like it was that good when he would rolling. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm with you. He should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: I hopefully the voters continues to adapt to the changes.
Speaker 1: Twenty four starts this year of a three seven seven
Speaker 1: Era one thirteen whip. It hasn't been as good of
Speaker 1: a year as last year, but still very good. He's
Speaker 1: got the strikeouts even higher than he did last year,
Speaker 1: and the career numbers, it's a two sixty six era
Speaker 1: and it's a one whip on the nose with a
Speaker 1: thirty percent strikeout rate over sixteen hundred and sixty six innings.
Speaker 1: It's two hundred and seventy two starts, but one hundred
Speaker 1: and five wins is about a third of what you
Speaker 1: would have needed twenty years ago, even ten years ago
Speaker 1: to get into the Hall of Fame. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to monitor. Let us know down below, what do
Speaker 1: you guys think is shake up the Grom Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1: My vote is yes. I'm obviously biased. He's probably my
Speaker 1: favorite pitcher that I've ever watched, but for me, he's
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Let's do some three up and
Speaker 1: three down. Garrett Mitchell three for four with a big fly,
Speaker 1: a couple doubles, a couple of runs in three RBI,
Speaker 1: a massive game from him, Anthony k six innings of
Speaker 1: two run ball with six strikeouts against the Bravos, and
Speaker 1: then Bobby Witch Junior. Maybe a little bit of a
Speaker 1: disappointing year for him as a whole as a top
Speaker 1: three pick, but two or four with a homer and
Speaker 1: three runs scored. Any thoughts on any of the ups there.
Speaker 2: It's good to see Mitchell have a good game. He's
Speaker 2: been so bad of late, and he's in a strict platoon.
Speaker 2: K has been sneaky good from time to time. But
Speaker 2: Bobby Wit, Yeah, he has heated up over the last
Speaker 2: few weeks and he's going to finish the season just
Speaker 2: reminding everybody why he's still one of the top picks
Speaker 2: in fantasy baseball while so many were so over him
Speaker 2: for a while.
Speaker 1: I think Bobby Witt honestly as a case as the
Speaker 1: first overall picking drafts next year. We were talking about
Speaker 1: this on Sleeping the bus yesterday. Keikrow Armstrong went first
Speaker 1: in the early draft. If somebody wanted to go show, hey,
Speaker 1: they're not going to get pushed back. If somebody wanted
Speaker 1: to go Bobby Wood Junior, I wouldn't give them any
Speaker 1: pushback either. Are those the big three you think or
Speaker 1: you think somebody will take Judge number one or Soto
Speaker 1: or would or how do you expect that one oh
Speaker 1: one to go next year?
Speaker 2: I think it's going to go those top three. The
Speaker 2: PCA thing will be it. I think more of Tanis
Speaker 2: than PCA will take place. Yeah, I have no problem
Speaker 2: with it because I gave my case on Atani with
Speaker 2: the knees and the lack of running, like there's reasons,
Speaker 2: but he still awesome. Like I'm not gonna deny it.
Speaker 2: Judge is the only one that will make it interesting.
Speaker 2: If he does come back and puts together like two
Speaker 2: to three weeks in September, that makes people go, oh,
Speaker 2: that's right, that dude. That might change things. But he's
Speaker 2: old and he's breaking down, so I'm skeptical of that
Speaker 2: as well. So it should be the core three of PCA,
Speaker 2: Otawny and Wit for.
Speaker 1: Now, Lea saying Jordon over Judge jord On. I think
Speaker 1: this was the year to buy Jordan Alvarez. Yes, when
Speaker 1: he was a fourth round pick. He's going to be
Speaker 1: a first round pick next year. He might even be
Speaker 1: a top five or six pick if he wins the
Speaker 1: Triple Crown. I don't know if I want to invest
Speaker 1: at the peak price for a guy who has knees
Speaker 1: that are probably ten years older than he is at
Speaker 1: this point. To his credit, he's actually been healthier than
Speaker 1: I think people give him credit for. If you look
Speaker 1: at the game logs over the last several years. Last
Speaker 1: year is really the only crew washout. But there's still
Speaker 1: something that doesn't feel great about using your first round
Speaker 1: pick on him, So I think I'm going to be
Speaker 1: more fading him in the first I want to mention
Speaker 1: one more name though it is a potential for the
Speaker 1: one on one and Jacob Mizerowski. Could he go number
Speaker 1: one in a couple of drafts? Do you think NFBC drafts.
Speaker 2: H he will? He will if he finished this September healthy.
Speaker 2: I will be far away from the Miz because there's
Speaker 2: this track record from Doctor Dave that is pretty undefeated,
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to say what what it is
Speaker 2: out loud because I don't wish this upon anybody, especially Miz,
Speaker 2: who we get to watch face Chris Sale today in
Speaker 2: a matinee like these are the things we live for
Speaker 2: as baseball fans and fantasy baseball players. There's also reality, Joe,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I'm not going to be shocked when
Speaker 2: that note comes across on my you know, Twitter feed.
Speaker 1: It's not going to feel good when it happens. It
Speaker 1: will eventually happen.
Speaker 2: It will happen.
Speaker 1: I mean it happens for even guys who throw like
Speaker 1: ninety four miles an hour. So which time you throw
Speaker 1: one hundred and four is gonna happen. Do you want
Speaker 1: to be the one holding the bag of the year
Speaker 1: it happens having spent the one on one on him.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's the one on one part's that's
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's like end of the first round, I
Speaker 1: could talk myself into it, but one oh one it
Speaker 1: might be a little bit rich for my blood ad
Speaker 1: D brain. Let's get back to the downs. Peter Lambert,
Speaker 1: Holy crap. Niner and runs over three and two thirds.
Speaker 1: I guess the angels of all teams, the Angels who've
Speaker 1: been putrid offensively in August, the fifty two WRC plus
Speaker 1: in August, going into yesterday. Niner and runs Gauge Jump,
Speaker 1: I'm done at this point five and runs on eight
Speaker 1: hits and three walks over four innings against the Royals. Like,
Speaker 1: we saw so many nice little flashes from Gauge Jump,
Speaker 1: and it looked like he was gonna be one of
Speaker 1: these at him down the stretch league winner types and
Speaker 1: has not panned out that way at all. Baba, is
Speaker 1: there any hope for you still to hold on to
Speaker 1: him or stream him or are you jumping off the
Speaker 1: train with me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have so many shares of Gauge Jump, and
Speaker 2: I went on my fab show last night getting ready
Speaker 2: to tell Ryan I'm moving on from Gauge Jump, and
Speaker 2: I stopped myself because I looked at his upcoming schedule
Speaker 2: and yes, I won't throw him in Sacramento. That's not allowed.
Speaker 2: He's it's just not happening. But the father who week Joe.
Speaker 2: It's at Texas and at Seattle, two of the best
Speaker 2: matchups you could have for left handed pitching, and I
Speaker 2: will be a sucker probably on that one for one
Speaker 2: last Now, if that burns me, the whole ship sinks.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna at least go down with flames on
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: Iceberg dead ahead. Yes, no, it's it looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean at Texas, at Seattle, and then after that
Speaker 1: it's against Seattle again what he's lined up for, so
Speaker 1: maybe a whole lot.
Speaker 2: You're saying it looks really good.
Speaker 1: You saying there's a hit CC the eighty D brain. No,
Speaker 1: it's not ADP brain. Also, that'll come around in the winter.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you ever noticed me bouncing around all
Speaker 1: over the place, that's the unmedicated ady D going around
Speaker 1: in my brain. One more on the downs. Drew Gilbert,
Speaker 1: oh for three with three k's. I usually like to
Speaker 1: find a golden sombrero. There was no goldenbarra. I felt
Speaker 1: bad picking on Drew Gilbert, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I wanted to find a hitter on the downs. And
Speaker 1: we'll move on to the injuries, which are actually not
Speaker 1: too bad today. But we'll start with Totel Martina where
Speaker 1: we started the show the other day. What a saga
Speaker 1: this has been. He'll go to the with a n
Speaker 1: E issue that dbacks expect him to rejoin the team
Speaker 1: once he is healthy. The team president also made some
Speaker 1: I think it was the president or president Baseball Operation.
Speaker 1: Somebody in a high level role, said they don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on here. It's bizarre to them too. So
Speaker 1: are we holding him? I know we asked this question
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. Now that we have the
Speaker 1: clarity quote unquote of the I L I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's worth holding at this point. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you do here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those I'm likely dropping at
Speaker 2: this point. I get it. It could burn me in
Speaker 2: two seconds. But he actually wasn't playing that well before
Speaker 2: he went on this hiatus and our good buddies Blogman
Speaker 2: and Welsh. Maybe you guys have heard of them. They
Speaker 2: are both Arizona guys, and they let off their show
Speaker 2: on Thursday with a rant on this, and they mentioned
Speaker 2: the fact that I didn't even know because we've heard
Speaker 2: a bunch of weird things. The night before Catelwin m
Speaker 2: I A in Boston. He was seen at the Hotel
Speaker 2: Bar at eleven pm at night, So there's a lot
Speaker 2: going on there that we aren't privy to. And this
Speaker 2: is about the same type of I ell stint as
Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz has right now, like just go away for
Speaker 2: at least ten days. So I don't know if we
Speaker 2: see Kittel again because more of like I'll just kind
Speaker 2: of listen to what Bogwin and Welsh said, But they
Speaker 2: also prefaced it to like a lot of the players
Speaker 2: now that Katel's out have kind of their tone has changed,
Speaker 2: like Corbyn, Carroll and someone that they're all fed up
Speaker 2: with it. So I don't even know if he's welcome
Speaker 2: back in the locker room right now, So just be wary.
Speaker 1: The whole thing from last year about oh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's going back to the dr and his home got
Speaker 1: broken into or something like that. It's like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: there's one weird incident like that, people will forgive you.
Speaker 1: If it keeps happening and happening. With the performance declining,
Speaker 1: it felt like Kittell was going to get traded last offseason.
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if he enters spring training as a
Speaker 1: diamond back, I'd be floored. If there's a way to
Speaker 1: bet against that happening, I'll see if there's a market
Speaker 1: out there for it somewhere. Agreed, let's get to the
Speaker 1: home run board and take a look at what we
Speaker 1: have going on today, and I believe High Kubby is
Speaker 1: just doing pretty damn well. If you see at the
Speaker 1: top of the board there fifty three, with the next
Speaker 1: highest totals being forty six, forty six, forty five, forty three.
Speaker 1: So the two through ten spots, really even two through
Speaker 1: eleven are only separated by a couple of homers. But
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna have to get a couple of
Speaker 1: three home run games here to catch up the High
Speaker 1: Cobby down the stretch by about where are you going
Speaker 1: today for your home run call? And I guess for
Speaker 1: the weekend as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I love your pick. I picked him
Speaker 2: on Wednesday worked out very well, so I wish you
Speaker 2: knew the best on that one. But I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: going to go back to mister one point one as
Speaker 2: he heads into Seattle. And if I'm not mistaken, I
Speaker 2: thought PCA is a Pacific Northwest person. I could be
Speaker 2: totally wrong on this, but for some reason that rings
Speaker 2: a bell with me. But PCA is white hot Emberson,
Speaker 2: Hancock and the entire Seattle situation not so much. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take my chances with PCA leading off in Seattle,
Speaker 2: and it's it's the late game of the evening, So
Speaker 2: if you're on the East Coast, take get a cup
Speaker 2: of coffee or you know, espresso martini, whatever you prefer,
Speaker 2: and get ready for the union with PCA goes deep.
Speaker 1: Espresso martinis are pretty tasty. Actually, I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: like martini person, but I find when you're late to
Speaker 1: the game, your friends have been drinking and you're getting
Speaker 1: there late, you need to catch up. You have a
Speaker 1: couple of espresso martinis, You're gonna catch up pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Joe, how often do you actually late to the game, though.
Speaker 1: Not as often as I should be, but mention mention, No,
Speaker 1: you're You're totally correct. If anybody comes out to Arizona,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll.
Speaker 2: Know exactly that's what I referred to.
Speaker 1: You'll know exactly what I was talking about. No mention
Speaker 1: of Netto in the three app five for six seven
Speaker 1: RBIs and a homer that is that is the East
Speaker 1: Coast bias right there, because the sheet was put together
Speaker 1: before Netto did that. And I'm a big Zach Netto fan,
Speaker 1: but that is a miss. I should have highlighted that
Speaker 1: hell of a game for Zach Netto. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it'll salvage the year necessarily for him. It's been
Speaker 1: a bit of a tough season, but a hell of
Speaker 1: a for him. My home run call for today, as
Speaker 1: Bubba has mentioned, is going to be Pete Alonzo. Will
Speaker 1: take him for the weekend here against the Rays. They
Speaker 1: are in Baltimore, Freddy Perlta tonight, Dye McClanahan tomorrow, and
Speaker 1: then Nick Martinez. Feels like some really good matches for
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo. And I didn't even realize that Bubba actually
Speaker 1: successfully got the home run on Wednesday. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: stolen him if that was the end at the time,
Speaker 1: but yeah, give me a home run. I've had a
Speaker 1: home run here in a while, so I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: it if he gives me one. And if you guys
Speaker 1: are looking to bet your home runs, you can do
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Speaker 1: dot com slash homers today. For seeing Winna Taka Murakami
Speaker 1: at the top, Holton Kowser against Freddy per Alta and
Speaker 1: then Asteri Ruiz looking like a huge value, you can
Speaker 1: get him at plus twelve hundred to take Brad Laura Deep.
Speaker 1: Probably worth sprinkling a couple bucks on there. At plus
Speaker 1: twelve hundred, that's a pretty good number. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise, but twelve hundred plus twel
Speaker 1: hundred it's probably worth sprinkling. So make sure you guys
Speaker 1: are checking it out today bettingpros dot com slash homers
Speaker 1: that will take us to our best bets and as
Speaker 1: We've talked about it, as has been mentioned in the
Speaker 1: show comments a couple of times. We are getting Chris
Speaker 1: Sale and Jacob Mizerowski today and I'm leaning all the
Speaker 1: way into it. We're taking the under six and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm expecting both of these guys to go six seven
Speaker 1: innings at six seven what I hate myself for doing that,
Speaker 1: But six to seven innings, zero one eer runs, we're
Speaker 1: looking at under six and a half. This feels like
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty good numbered. Again, I was honestly thinking
Speaker 1: it might even be lower, just based on how good
Speaker 1: these guys have done. You don't usually see it lower
Speaker 1: than six and a half, but with those two names,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, maybe you get five and a half
Speaker 1: six and a half here shopping around, I'm getting it
Speaker 1: at minus one ten, but see if you can find
Speaker 1: it potentially at plus money. That's Sale in Miserowski, Brewers
Speaker 1: and Braves under six and a half. Bubba, you're sticking
Speaker 1: in the PCA market for your best bet of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I figure if for some reason he doesn't go deep,
Speaker 2: I'll take the hits runs and RBI's over three versus
Speaker 2: Handcock because he's getting on bass, he's scoring runs. He's
Speaker 2: driving in runs pretty much at a regular clip, so
Speaker 2: I'll take my chances are at plus one fifty five.
Speaker 2: It was very intriguing to go. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: good PCA props if you're in the prop game for tonight,
Speaker 2: a lot of plus money plays. Now if he goes
Speaker 2: over for four, you can just send those comments somewhere else.
Speaker 2: But PCA looks pretty strong tonight.
Speaker 1: BD entric on Twitter everybody, and I don't have my
Speaker 1: daughter tonight, so I'll be hope.
Speaker 2: Just hang it out, watch the ball, so bring it on.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I gotta give my Joe Rico ninety nine.
Speaker 1: If my bet misses, I want to be tagged.
Speaker 2: I deserve to be.
Speaker 1: Flogged the Circe Walk of Shame. We're gonna hit our
Speaker 1: bets with the help of betting pros. But guys, that
Speaker 1: will wrap it up for the week. A little bit
Speaker 1: of an abbreviated week for me because I was I
Speaker 1: was here on Monday, but not really here on Monday.
Speaker 1: But I will be back next Monday with Welsh. It's
Speaker 1: my only time to talk with Welsh, so there better
Speaker 1: not be any technical difficulties.
Speaker 2: Next week.
Speaker 1: It'll be myself and Welsh on Monday. Like I mentioned,
Speaker 1: that show what Jeff Ericson will be out in your
Speaker 1: feeds later today early tomorrow, So make sure you guys
Speaker 1: are keeping an eye on everything and that will do
Speaker 1: it for Casey Bubba. I am Joel Rico. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to you next time right here on leading off right
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