WEBVTT - Leading Off: Unload the FAAB for Kade Anderson! (Ep. 1373) 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.520 What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into Fantasy pros. This is 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.600 leading off live the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I'm your host, 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.440 Joel Rico, joined today by my dear friend Baba, and 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.480 we are going to be bringing you through all the headlines, 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.639 all the news and notes, a couple injuries, a fun 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.160 fact about my favorite pitcher in baseball, and actually kind 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.520 of a shorter injury report than usual. Babba. It's been 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.880 just a brutal gauntlet every time we've recorded over the 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.760 last few weeks, but a fairly small injury report today 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.160 and an exciting prospect called. So I'm very much looking 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.120 forward to wrapping up the week with you, my friend. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.320 Yes, me as well. It's always good to chat a fun, 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.440 little little set of news, notes and more. And the 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.920 eye injuries helped. We had a small Thursday of action, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.520 I'll say that much. That helped a ton. But yeah, 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.760 we have a very important topic to get us started 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.440 today and it'll get the fantasy world and baseball world 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:55.520 buzzing on Saturday. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.880 Yeah, as it should. Kate Anderson getting the call from 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.720 the Mariners he will be making his major league debut 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.800 on Saturday. I saw some conflicting reports Saturday or Sunday. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.479 It looks like it's gonna be Saturday either way. Get 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.240 him in your lineups if you can pick him up, 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.720 Go on the waiver wire and see if he's still available. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.160 Somebody messaged me last night saying that he wasn't stashed 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.479 in their league somehow, So you never know. Go take 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.399 a look out there on your waiver wire. Kate Anderson 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.640 has been doing some historic stuff in the minor leagues 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.200 this year. Is a third pick in the twenty twenty 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.839 five draft. Is a one oh six ERA over ninety 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.200 three innings, one hundred and thirty five strikeouts, and thirteen 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:32.680 walks on the season. It's been an unbelievably dominant year, 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.479 and Vad Seddler pointed this out on Twitter last night. 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.400 He had one outing that he just got blown up 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.319 May fifteenth, five e in runs outside of that, like, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.240 the ERA is already just barely over one and there's 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.480 one really bad kind of blip start there. If not 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.960 for that, the ERA would be like zero point four 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.480 or something like that. He looks like he's gonna be 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.320 a stud bob, but he's obviously got the pitcher's park 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.120 that he's going to be going into I'm pretty excited 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.160 for Kate Anderson. The question is are we fully unloading 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.200 every remaining fab dollar we have to get him at 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:03.600 this point? 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.680 Yeah, yeah, you are? Did do I fab preview with 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.440 Bloomfield on Bubbing the Bloom last night, and obviously Kate 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.320 Anderson is the topic of conversation this weekend in the 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.200 fab streets. We kind of narrowed it down to give 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.240 yourself like three or four bucks a week for the 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.639 final four weeks after this week. That's kin. So you're 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.800 talking about unload the budget. That's where our brain is 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:23.760 because there's really nothing like if there's someone else that 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.040 gets called up, shocker, Okay, cool, But this is the 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:28.880 one everyone's been waiting for. When it comes to pitching. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.679 We saw Joshua Biez last week. That's a whole nother 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.920 story right now. But Kate Anderson has been great. I 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.120 think he's gonna be awesome. I'm always a little cautious 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.520 on these guys. It's all double A pitching. Hasn't got 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.720 the triple A totally fine, not saying he can't do it, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.840 but like the levels of talent that he's still crossing 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.120 through here. But he's awesome. He's limited all the damage. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.639 As you mentioned, he's striking everybody out. Cubs team's not 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.440 an easy walk in the park. But yeah, he must 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.720 see TV and hopefully the Mariners keep him going at 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.320 least five innings like he was in the minors. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.600 Yeah, that's the thing. Not really a soft landing for 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.560 him with the Cubbies. Who if you look in the 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.080 month of August, they have the fourth best offense in 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.000 Baseball thirty home runs they've hit in August. I think 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.800 we mentioned this on Wednesday show, or maybe I mentioned 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.600 it on the show with Jeff Erickson actually, which will 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.760 be coming out this evening tomorrow morning, depending on when 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.760 you're watching. But the Cubs are not an easy matchup 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.000 right now. Let's say you pick him up. Are you 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:23.800 starting him immediately? I feel like you kind of have 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.160 to at this point with Kate Anderson, but maybe you don't. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.960 Maybe you just keep him on your bench for one 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.400 start and see how he looks against major league hitters. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.240 Yeah, in theory, you kind of have to, but he's 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.320 definitely not a muss start. I probably would not start 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.000 him on this game. I'd add him to have him 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.880 going forward, because that's what we want to see when 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.680 it comes to Kate Anderson. But it's also like, okay, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.320 so that the manners go six man now, and which 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.040 is probably what they should do. Does Bryce Miller go 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.760 to the bullpen because he's been horrific. There's a lot 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.960 of what ifs in this scenario. But like so we 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.440 mentioned he's got the Cubs on Saturday. Kate Anderson has 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.840 at Toronto next weekend. Great matchup. No offense to you, Joe, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.920 that's a really good matchup following weeks at home against 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.760 a depleted Day's offense. Pretty solid. I'd see he's been 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.000 facing minor league hitters. There you go. But then it's 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.120 at Sacramento the following week, so it's like one of 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.400 those and it's at Coors after that. So buckle up 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.440 with your Kate Anderson schedule, but enjoy the good starts 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.200 and just be be cautious. I think the year of 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.400 Kate Anderson's twenty twenty seven, this is just a nice 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:21.919 little taste before the year ends. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.560 Yeah, and I think Toronto has been a little bit 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.719 better as of late. They're like thirteen and six, thirteen 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.320 and seven in the last twenty. It is not because 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.240 of the offense. I was writing an article last night 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.200 and looking back, I really like to look in three 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:35.640 weeks sample sizes for offensive production. That's a Kevin Hasting 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.160 thing that he's just owed upon me. But over the 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.240 last three weeks, Toronto has a ninety one WRC plus. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.159 You can still stream against them, even though they've been 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.520 a little bit better as of late. Maybe just pitch 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.960 around allehandro Kirk because he's been lighting the world on fire. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.520 But other than that, I don't think you really need 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.880 to worry about the Blue Jays too much. Let's talk 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.040 to Jordan Walker and by I'm gonna give you the 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.240 floor here in a second, because he had a big 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.440 day hit three three run homer. He added another RBI 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.680 as well. You took him the first round of the 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.840 meatball draft, and I want to get your take on this. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.279 I know you don't like it when we talked about 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:07.240 the draft without you there. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.440 You're here now. It's not without it's not without me there. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.840 I always say people, there's fifteen people in the draft, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.440 just get someone from the draft in there. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.719 I'm just giving I'm just giving it years. You know, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.200 I love Anyboddy. Yeah, Jordan Walker was a pick we 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.040 talked about on Sleeping the Bus yesterday and it was 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.720 the probably the most I don't want to say shocking, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.400 but the most surprising pick in the first round. Probably 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.680 looking at a Camon Arrow judge with wood Sodo tattoos, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.400 Alvarez were all kind of expecting at Ellie, you know, 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.680 Jose Ramirez, Jordan Walker. It's probably justified based on what 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.640 he's done this year, but it still felt a little bit. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:39.080 Uh. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.080 That's sticker shock that we were talking about the other day, 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.960 So you have the floor. Why is Jordan Walker a 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.040 first round pick in twenty twenty seven. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.520 And sticker shock is the name of a lot of 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.520 these picks that we have issues with. And I actually 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.720 listened to the sleep in this about an hour before 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.920 this show, so I am well versed on what took 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.760 place on that show. I don't disagree, because, yeah, it 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.240 is a surprise. Jordan Walker isn't even drafted in most 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.679 leagues this year. He's one of the top waiver wire 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.480 like ads the entire season, so I totally get that's 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.640 quite the jump that people will talk about that weren't 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.679 in the first round. Heck, he wasn't in the first 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.640 twenty seven rounds of most drafts this year, but it's 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.800 kind of an accumulation of things. It's the talent that 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.400 we've always thought Jordan Walker had. It's a guy that's 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.120 likely going to go thirty plus home runs, twenty plus steals. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.320 Maybe he has like a thirty five to twenty five 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.039 potential in him. These are all what if? This is 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.200 what we're doing this time of the year. It's also 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.320 a twenty four year old and I've always been a 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.400 guy and my co host Bloomfield, he's way more cautious, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.400 wants to see it once or twice, and I get 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.040 it to an extent. But I've also changed the way 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.719 I view things these days because this base the world 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.560 of baseball we live in now, is becoming much of 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.040 a younger man's sport. We're seeing these prospects come up 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.039 and they do things. In the fact he's twenty four, 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.800 who's to say he's not finding his world. PCA went first. Overall. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.880 We went into the last draft season thinking he was 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.719 like nothing because of that second half, and he's probably 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.279 worth it now. Is Jordan Walker a first round pick? 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.440 I think so? Is he gonna be that way by many? 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.880 Probably not? But it's the argument that can be had, 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.880 especially when guys after him like I've never been an 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:08.880 lle guy. I agree. I understand that people like Kelly 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.760 that's fine, But like C. J Abrams absolutely love him. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.000 He's having a career. You're just like Jordan Walker. I'd 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.680 rather have Jordan Walker in the outfield than C. J Abrams, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.679 jay Ram love him. I think he's still very grateful 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.600 or solid. He's getting old injuries or adding up. Be careful. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.840 Jackson Cheerio doesn't run like Jordan Walker can run. Corbyn 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.000 Carroll doesn't have the power like Jordan Walker could run. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.320 Always hurt. So like when we look at the Outfield podcast, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.320 who you Rodriguez, that is your closest comp is We're 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.360 I'll give you because he's been a thirty thirty guy 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.920 to me. But it's all kind of in the eye 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:41.720 of the beholder. It's like the Lord of the rings, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.800 my precious. So it depends on how you want to 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.360 look at it. And I understand so many people are like, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.640 look at the Babbitt spikes. He still hits the ball 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.080 on the ground a lot, like a lot of these 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.080 things I fully understand, but this is also a potential 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.680 five category stud Jordan Walker the comp I think I 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:01.239 made on My show with Ryan on Tuesday, Jordan Walker 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.920 could be what everyone in the first round in the 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.040 past years wanted Kyle Tucker to be. That's who Jordan 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.640 Walker can be. And no one blinked. And I at 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.880 a first round Kyle Tucker. So I want to at 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:12.840 least throw that out there. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.000 I mean, I think you've laid it out really well. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.560 And the conflict Spoor keeps making is Derek Lee. And yeah, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.440 physically you could see it. Statistically you could see it. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.800 Derek Lee was a guy who had hit thirty plus homers, 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.960 he had a forty six home run season. He'd chip 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.360 in between ten and twenty steals there in his peak years. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.679 He'd give you a good batting average. Could definitely see 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.679 that outcome. And I don't hate the pick. I think honestly, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.200 it's so early to love or hate any pick. And 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.400 that's part of the exercise here. You guys are totally 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.120 flying blind. There's no adp, there's no rankings. Guys can 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.880 get hurt over the next two months of the season. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.080 Guys could come out of nowhere and look great. It's 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.160 the hardest draft that will take place throughout the year. 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.560 I think Walker's probably more of a second rounder, which 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.760 is fair, but I don't have a huge, huge problem 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.440 with it. He's giving you twenty six homers, He's already 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.000 been pushing close to one hundred rbi already, he's got 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.840 the steals, he's hitting for average. And something that I've 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.240 looked at a lot more over the last couple of 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.079 years is bat speed. His bat speed needs to the 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.920 last couple of seasons has gained about a mile an 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.640 hour seventy seven point three up to seventy eight point one, 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.160 and then he gained another mile an hour this year, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.560 going up to seventy nine point two, which is like 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.000 ninety ninth or one hundredth percentile, almost an eighty mile 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.439 an hour bat speed. There's a ton of talent here, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.839 and if he continues to progress and next year, if 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.079 Jordan Walker, you know, this might be a crazy take, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.040 but if Jordan Walker is like the National League MVP 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.720 in twenty twenty seven, it wouldn't be overly surprising if 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.760 he continues that progression. Super hyped prospect. I think it 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.720 was my first or second year going out to Arizona 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:40.560 that he was the talk of the Fall League, and 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.679 it looks like it's finally paid off this year for 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.960 Jordan Walker. So help me to give you any trouble there. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.480 No, you know what that sounds like. I'm hearing you're 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.640 buying in. We need to go on Shark Tank and 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.719 do a Fantasy Baseball Shark Tank. That's what we need 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:53.440 to do. Right here. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.320 I'll give you one hundred thousand dollars for ten percent 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:57.679 of your Jordan Walker. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.280 And I totally understand how this one can fall flat 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.840 on its face, get it, But I'm shooting for more 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.440 the ceiling play here than the floor with him. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.800 It's also worth noting the last year in this draft, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.960 in the first round, Bubba took Junior Camanaro took a 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.800 bunch of crap from people, and that paid out pretty 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.560 well for Bubba. And I believe Bubba is a previous 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:14.640 winner of this week. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.320 I won the very first one. This is the fifth 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.600 year I won the very first year. So yes, so. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.680 Bubba does know what he's talking about. I'm not trying 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:22.640 to give him crap here, but. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.800 Oh I get no. I think it's healthy conversation. That's 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.400 why it's very interesting to see because I agree that 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.400 you can make arguments for a bunch of players in 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:31.920 the back end of the first round right now. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.199 It'll be interesting to see over the next couple of 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.400 months if Jordan Walker does finish out as a first 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.880 round pick, if he is getting drafted there regularly, I think, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.480 you know worse, he's a top twenty pick in twenty 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.120 twenty seven drafts. Whatever happens down the stretch here, but 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.199 it's time that we talk about a blue Jay. We've 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.040 lasted eleven minutes here, So let's get to Shane Bieber, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.199 who had a really good night last night, and it's 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.199 the second consecutive really good one. This one was against 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.800 the Rays, seven innings of one run ball while striking 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.800 out seven. And if you look on the graphic we 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.480 have here on screen over his last two outings, it's 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.760 only two runs and thirteen innings of work for Shane Bieber. 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:07.280 Is he back? 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.240 Is he back in the circle of trust? Because he's 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.880 been so far away from the circle of trust this season, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.880 But these last couple starts, coming on the verge of 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.000 fantasy playoffs, I feel like people are gonna start to 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:18.040 buy in. But should they? 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.160 Yeah, that's been my conundrum. Like when I saw his 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.080 stat line yesterday, after I got off of work and 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.280 I was like wow, like he just did it again, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.800 and it's back to back starts. Because throughout this kind 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.240 of comeback season, it's either gets blown up. He throws 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.280 well and then he gets blown up like it's it's 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.200 never like consistent with Beab so far, or he's a 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.920 bunch of walks, there's no strikeouts. Every start has a 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.400 it's a it's like a box of chocolates with Shane 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.199 Bieber right now, and to see two in a row 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.440 is very very interesting with the Beabs. But like over 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.240 the last month, it's a three six six era, a 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.400 one two two whip, a four or five Xcira, so 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.079 it suggests a little luck, but still four to five. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.400 It's quality start. Love it or hate it, that's life. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.160 But the part that gets me is so the last 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.760 thirty one days last month, and you mentioned the last 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.680 two starts, we seemed the twelve case to one walk, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.280 but if we take a little larger sample here, it's 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.400 still a nine percent K to walk. It's still a 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.959 forty percent ball rate. So that's not what we want 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.760 to see command wise, and obviously it's been helped by 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.760 a six walk effort not going to deny that, but 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.240 it's an eight point five percent swinging strike like in 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.320 his start yesterday or his last two starts, the two 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.000 dominating starts, it was still a thirty five percent ball rate, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.920 so increase, but only a nine point seven percent swinging strike. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.760 He's not dominating per se, and a lot of fly balls, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.640 but he does look better. To your question, I am 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.600 not fully bought in. I am still terrified of Shane 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.520 Bieber because he just doesn't seem dominant, but he seems 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.439 not bad. I'll go that route. And he gets Kansas 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.360 City next week, which is very enticing, So if you 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.360 want to stream beabs for now, won't be fully opposed 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:48.600 to it. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.520 Yeah, just looking at it where we're seeing. Nothing can change, 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.800 of course, but as of now, Kansas City, Cleveland at 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.079 the Athletics, which will be a hard no, big no, 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.960 big noe, the biggest no we're gonna give on the 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.680 show for quite some time probably, and then at home 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.840 to Detroit is the one after that, so he probably 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.360 started against Detroit. I guess you see what happens against 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.520 Kansas City and Cleveland. But even if he throws a 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.199 perfect game and both of them, I'm not sure. I 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.960 would start him in Sacramento. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:17.880 No, not a chance. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.240 He's he's on the road back to trusting him if 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.080 he continues, you know, giving you these type of outings. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.920 Maybe not necessarily this dominant every time out. But let's 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:28.680 say he finishes the last month with like a mid 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.120 three's Era one two type of whip. Will he be 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.960 somebody that you think can return to his previous form 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.320 next year? Would you be drafting Shane Bieber thinking that 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.880 you might be getting a cy Young again at some 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.800 point or do you think those days are behind us? 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.800 I think the cy Young days are gone. I don't 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.760 think that's happening again. You never know, like things could happen. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.920 He's coming off the surgery, excuse me, the second year, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.600 but he'll be thirty two next year. We know how 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.120 that slowly starts to go. Is he could still be 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.680 very good, Like he's more of an SP three for 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.400 fantasy wise for me. I don't know if say it 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.720 is going to ever be there, but he could still 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.040 be very very serviceable. He's not quite Aaron Nolea yet, 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.679 I'll go that far if you want to use those 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.360 kind of comps. But he's working his way that direction, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.959 which still means he's very serviceable in the right streaming environment, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.480 so that not a complete trash on him. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.200 Let's talk about another picture and Grant Holmes, a guy 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.960 who was flirting with a no no for a little while. Yesterday, 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.120 I think he took it into the sixth inning, ended 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.280 up allowing one hand. I believe he walked three. And 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.360 there's been an up and down season for Grant Holmes, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.120 but three of his last four outings have been scoreless. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.040 Six shoutout innings against Miami, six shoutout innings in the Bronx. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.400 He had a really bad one against Arizona, and then 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:40.960 six shutout against the White Sox yesterday. Overall, I mean, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.080 the whip is problematic. It's almost like early season k 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.320 Cavali in a sense because you're getting decent eras, but 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.640 they're coming with like a one thirty whip. But at 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.800 the same time, he hasn't given up more than three 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:57.240 earned runs outside of that previous one. It was May 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.920 first was the previous real blow up start he had. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.320 So are we trusting Grant Holmes at this point? Boba? 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.400 I know it is you know, playoffs or approaching fantasy playoffs, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.280 or maybe you're already in there. Next start is the Dodgers, 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.600 after that at Washington, after that verse Tampa. Dodgers haven't 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.840 been great though recently. I wonder are you willing to 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.720 start him against the Dodgers in a deep league? You'll 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.640 start him in a twelve team or shallow or it 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.840 definitely depends on what you have. Because Grant Holmes is 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.280 he's been this guy all year and even last draft season. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.240 People have the same conundrums with him. It's yeah, era 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.640 three six four on the year, last month three four 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.000 five awesome, But as you mentioned, it's a one three 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.960 two whip on the season, one two four over the 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.680 last month, which the last month's palatable. You can live 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.160 with that, but he doesn't do a lot of things 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.440 that woo you. It's an eight percent k to walk 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.840 on the season. It's which is really. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.640 Strange, Joe, because he has a twelve point six percent 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.560 swinging strike on the season that shitt equate too closer 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.320 to a twenty four to twenty five percent k rate. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.160 He has an eighteen percent k rate, so he's not 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.440 finishing things off, which is quite frustrating. Gives up the 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.120 long ball just enough to tilt you. He's a roller 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.720 coaster ride. That's what Grant Holmes is and more often 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.120 than not, as you've noticed, you'll survive. But you're in 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.080 the post to playoffs right now. I would try to 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.400 go other directions if possible, because that's the next couple 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.000 of matchups are very, very challenging. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.240 Yeah, I think that the Dodgers over the last few 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.920 weeks they're at ninety four w RC plus they have 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.040 a sub three hundred on base rate as a team, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:27.360 And yeah. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:28.640 You can you can attack him for sure. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.640 And the thing though, I feel pretty confident attacking them, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:35.240 but a guy of Grant Holmes's talent level, he can 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.920 give up eight and runs. Anybody give up eight and 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.280 runs against the Dodgers. It's just even when a team 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.280 like that is struggling, just given the talent in their lineup, 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.560 it still worries me on any given day, which any 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.040 team can get you on any given day, but the 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.360 Dodgers in particular, it's a little bit scary. So maybe 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.520 set him for that one unless you really really need 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.920 to start him. A couple of housekeeping things I forgot 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:55.960 to get out of the way at the top, But 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.320 we are giving away a fifty dollars store code. We 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.680 gave away the previous two giveaways on the last show, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.400 but we have a new giveaway here. If you want 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.320 a chance to win the fifty dollars Fantasy Pro Shop 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.960 code and snag some of our new leading offswag, then 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.080