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Speaker 1: Don't put out that Christmas tree gear.

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Speaker 2: Put it back up.

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Speaker 1: It's too word.

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Speaker 2: Get up, Get up and push some respect.

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Speaker 1: Don't thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, November thirteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm J Skith here in the Classic Factory and alongside me,

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Speaker 3: as always task.

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Speaker 2: Melis podcast listeners, this is for you over.

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Speaker 3: Yonder making the magic happen. Super producer jd. Hello, there

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Speaker 3: he is and joining us from an undisclosed hotel room

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Speaker 3: in San Francisco. It's the Bearded One, Matafsha hot boy,

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Speaker 3: Trey Kirby. Hey, hey, oh look at this guy looking mad?

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Speaker 3: Casual here early morning, West Coast time.

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Speaker 2: What's going on is like pickleags.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people went crazy when I was showing them off

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Speaker 4: last week, so I thought i'd give them a little

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Speaker 4: San Francisco treat.

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Speaker 1: While I'm out here in the bay.

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Speaker 4: Look, man, this hotel room is not necessarily a podcast

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Speaker 4: recording studio, but we're making it happen. I was rearranging

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Speaker 4: the furniture this morning just so we could get a

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Speaker 4: beautiful view. Yeah, the rolling hills of San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the podcast listeners, we'll want to check this out.

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Speaker 3: Gorgeous view behind Trey Kirby. What floor are you on there? TK?

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Speaker 1: Where they got you twenty nine?

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Speaker 3: All right, look, we have Trey on here this morning

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Speaker 3: to obviously talk about Klay Thompson's return to take on

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Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors. An emotional competitive game between the

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Speaker 3: MAVs and the Warriors. They're in the Chase Center now,

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Speaker 3: Steph Curry. He sort of ruined spoiled Klay Thompson's homecoming

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Speaker 3: there with twelve consecutive points at the end. We'll get

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Speaker 3: into the game, but Trey, you were there all day.

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Speaker 3: Need to hear your first hand account of like the festivities,

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Speaker 3: like leading up to the game and talking to all

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Speaker 3: the players and then of course all the hats. I'm

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Speaker 3: a little sad you don't have on, Captain that, I

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Speaker 3: gotta be honest, but like talk us through the whole

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Speaker 3: day and obviously how they celebrated Klay Thompson's return.

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Speaker 4: Skates, you said festivities, and that's exactly right. It was

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Speaker 4: literally a festive atmosphere for Clay Thompson returning to the Warriors.

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Speaker 4: I was spending the evening and like this morning thinking

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Speaker 4: about return games and revenge games and you know, legendary

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Speaker 4: dynasties breaking up and then the next game after that,

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Speaker 4: and it was really hard to think of anything that

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Speaker 4: was similar to what the Warriors were able to pull

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Speaker 4: off with Klay Thompson returning last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, when Scottie Pippen.

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Speaker 4: Left the Bulls, they had basically dissolved. He didn't even

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Speaker 4: so then it was the next year Jordan was gone.

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Speaker 4: Not the same when Tony Parker went to the Hornets

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Speaker 4: at the end of his career came back to play

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Speaker 4: against the Spurs. Not the same, you know, kind of

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Speaker 4: the only thing that were similar in my mind where

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant leaving the Thunder going back there.

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Speaker 1: This was the complete opposite of that.

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Speaker 4: Or maybe Shaquille O'Neal going back to play against the

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Speaker 4: Lakers on Christmas Day like in two thousand and four

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Speaker 4: or whatever it was after they won three titles in LA.

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Speaker 4: This was such a jolly atmosphere. Warriors fans were excited

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Speaker 4: to be able to celebrate Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 1: And the Warriors team.

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Speaker 4: The Warriors organization went the next mile with all the

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Speaker 4: hats and all of the tribute video and just making

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Speaker 4: relationship between Steph Clay and Draymond once we got into

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Speaker 4: For it to be a game in the middle of November,

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Speaker 4: you can't imagine more juice. It was just incredible to

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Speaker 4: he was trying to play it cool throughout the entire day.

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Speaker 4: Almost felt like he was avoiding the media at times

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Speaker 1: Involved in the story. This is just as any other game.

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Speaker 4: Clearly, you could tell when he came in and the

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Speaker 1: When they did the video tribute, you could just.

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Speaker 4: Tell it got to him and suddenly just another game

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Speaker 4: the way it did, incredible five star masterpiece of a game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for it to spill like all of that love

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Speaker 3: all the hats, so many hats. We've never seen so

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Speaker 3: to then spill into the first play of the game

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Speaker 3: Tray where Steph Curry is guarding Glay Thompson, and like

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Speaker 3: You know, Clay had stretches where he was hitting the

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Speaker 3: but overall six threes, and then Steph to do what

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Speaker 3: the other side of a Curry flurry like it was.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe the game itself lived up to the

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Speaker 1: Sense, You're exactly right.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't either, And I mean I've was, I guess,

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Speaker 4: played out. He said, I didn't expect that. I literally

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Speaker 4: blacked out. Draymond was calling for a bump switch so

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Speaker 4: but he said he heard him, but I didn't hear him.

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Speaker 1: So suddenly there was just a foul right.

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Speaker 4: Away, and like, I don't know, I was caught up

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Speaker 4: only made sense that Steph Curry would be guarding Klay

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Speaker 1: That was crazy. You know.

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Speaker 4: Steph ben hits a three in his face, points right

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Speaker 1: But it was so cool. You know.

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Speaker 4: Steph obviously had the big moment at the end of

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Speaker 4: for as much as Steph Curry took over down the

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Speaker 4: same to Daniel Gafford on the defensive end. Like you said,

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Speaker 4: Clay had his moments as well, especially in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: I thought when he scored I think eighth straight, he

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Speaker 1: They were getting fired up. And it was so weird because.

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Speaker 4: There was that moment in the fourth quarter. In the

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Speaker 4: couple of threes. Then those were like two moments where

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Speaker 4: it was like Klay Thompson's hitting some back breaking threes

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Speaker 4: here in Chase Center, and Warriors fans were like, we

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Speaker 4: can't quite boo him, happy to see him making these shots.

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Speaker 4: That was like some of the funniest like Clay interacting

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Speaker 4: they had seen that for thirteen seasons and now it's

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Speaker 4: feeling a type of way when Clay was hitting those shots.

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Speaker 4: But man, the way Curry came through in the end,

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Speaker 4: this guy's just the best show in sports.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was thinking, like, you know, they're called the

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Speaker 3: Splash Brothers, They're not called the Splash twins, right, brothers

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Speaker 3: I love that. Steph again sort of got the last

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Speaker 3: Clay with just how he took over. I'm with you, TK.

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Speaker 3: I thought the MAVs were winning this game. I gotta

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Speaker 3: be honest, Like Clay was hitting some huge, timely buckets

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Speaker 3: and they're up seven or so, and it was getting

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Speaker 3: it with Curry and with Draymond making those defensive stops.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, I'm glad you showed that some love.

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Speaker 3: He stuffed the statuet. Eleven points for Draymond, seven board,

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Speaker 3: six assists, three steals, two blocks in thirty one minutes.

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Speaker 3: He was a plus eighteen in the game. That huge

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Speaker 3: that was a bit of a game changer, a momentum

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Speaker 3: changing play there. You know, he drew the charge as well,

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Speaker 3: and there was another one where Gafford sort of fumbled

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Speaker 3: not being able to miss a shot. But like it

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Speaker 3: a dynasty, you know when it was the Splash bros.

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Speaker 3: And Raymond Green, It's like the competitiveness from these guys.

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Speaker 3: I love that it bled into this game, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: love support hugs, that's my brother. But it's like you

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Speaker 3: still want to kick your brother's ass at the other day.

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Speaker 3: That's the best part.

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Speaker 2: The neat part was that this was a big game

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Speaker 2: for Draymond Green. Yeah, I mean they were into it,

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Speaker 2: and Steph Curry obviously. Yeah, the end, it just felt

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Speaker 2: Steph pulls it out out and pulls the go to

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Speaker 2: Sleep Again.

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Speaker 3: The Night Night celebration.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it's happened. It's happening more than

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Speaker 2: it did earlier in his career. Obviously. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: Y Kirby, is he overdoing the Night Night celebration or

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Speaker 3: is he playing it perfectly? All right?

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Speaker 1: Now, he's literally playing it perfectly.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned postgame, He's like, I'm still undefeated with the

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Speaker 4: Night Night. Even though Quentin Grimes hit that big three

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Speaker 4: in his face made it a little questionable, Uh, for sure,

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Speaker 4: by you known the Warriors were able to get stops.

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Speaker 4: That guy was celebrating like crazy on that made three.

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Speaker 4: It definitely felt like the France game all over again.

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Speaker 4: He hits the Night Night, then he's popping his jersey.

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Speaker 4: He's yelling into the camera. I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: You know, he was yelling whatever he was. I've seen

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Speaker 1: the lip readings.

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Speaker 4: They both all of them seem incorrect to me, and

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Speaker 4: Steph wouldn't cop to what he was actually saying afterwards.

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Speaker 4: But even after that moment, he went back to the

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Speaker 4: huddle for a little bit, but the environment was too hyped.

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Speaker 4: We just did enough their lap holding up his jersey

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Speaker 4: showing the Golden State. I thought it was incredible. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned skeets. It really felt like they were brothers out

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Speaker 4: there that were finally split up and got a chance

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Speaker 4: to play against each other. Draymond brought it as if

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Speaker 4: it were a Game seven and he was actually.

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Speaker 1: Out there on the court. It was incredible.

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Speaker 4: The guy can elevate his game and he made all

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Speaker 4: those plays on gafferd I was feeling terrible for that

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Speaker 4: got to turn over off him in three different ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was not ideal for the MAVs, but it was

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Speaker 4: so cool and skates when we're playing pickup ball, You're

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's the people you love that you want to

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Speaker 2: I thought the Warriors one was pretty good from here,

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Speaker 1: Trey? If you don't want people complaining about your NBA

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Speaker 1: When it's just gray.

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Speaker 1: These hats were too hard to get skeets. Wow me.

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Speaker 1: They gave out literally thousands of them.

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Speaker 4: I think the number was probably like fifteen thousand, right,

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Speaker 4: to the boat to do yacht rocks. Every single person

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Speaker 4: Wearing like their own, you know, warriors hat with that

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Speaker 4: This was kind of perfect that you've got a guy

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Speaker 4: To give away hats that aren't just a standard baseball cap,

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Speaker 4: it looks incredible, Like it was one hundred percent buy in.

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Speaker 4: Hey can I can I please hold your captain's hat

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Speaker 1: Luckily he blessed me and then put it right back

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We always make fun of teams and how they

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Speaker 3: If you want to buy one of these Captain Clay hats,

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Speaker 4: But the Warriors and the organization clearly did not want

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Speaker 4: And kind of a one of a kind sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: Right He's trying to play it down like this is

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Speaker 2: E then when you did it enough and more to

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And if you were a Warriors fan going

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine the Warriors having to face Game six Clay,

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Speaker 4: But you could tell Clay after the game was itching

437
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,719
Speaker 4: for another chance at the Warriors. He mentioned so many times,

438
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 4: like we played the Dubs three more times, it's gonna

439
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,479
Speaker 4: get less weird, and hopefully we're able to pull off

440
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 4: a win because honestly, like neither team played great last night,

441
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 4: Like the Warriors could not make a free throw, the

442
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 4: three point shooting percentages were not great. Until it really mattered,

443
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 4: you could tell there was nerves in the arena. So

444
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 4: I think it'll get less weird, like Steph and Clay

445
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 4: were saying every time they play, but if they were

446
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 4: to meet in the playoffs, that would be a blessing.

447
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 3: It would be amazing. All right, buddy, Well, we're gonna

448
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 3: let you go. We know you got to pack up

449
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 3: there and catch a flight back to Atlanta. So I

450
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Speaker 3: guess we're going to see you on We'll see you

451
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Speaker 3: on Friday's drop podcast, if I have that correct? Is

452
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Speaker 3: that right?

453
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

454
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna likely be off tomorrow because we don't land

455
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Speaker 4: until late. But who knows, if there's live TV on

456
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 4: the airplane, maybe I can get some Wednesday night basketball actually,

457
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 4: and we'll see.

458
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 3: Okay, you never know what a tease you might see.

459
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 3: Trey Kirby on tomorrow show if not steal them on

460
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: the Drop podcast. Looking forward to some more social content

461
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 3: coming from you and Esh and yeah, what a game.

462
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: What a game to send TK and sh too. That

463
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: worked out perfectly. Thanks for jumping on, buddy.

464
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, all right, see you guys today.

465
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 3: Man, all right later, Trey. Okay, let's get in to

466
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 3: the old scale of one to ten. This is something

467
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: we did earlier in the year because we got a lot

468
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 3: more to talk about when it comes to the NBA

469
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 3: Cup and some of the upsets the Cup sets. We

470
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 3: obviously have Joel Embiid. So I just want to start

471
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: with the courts, because we talked a little bit about

472
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 3: the Warriors, you know, pretty generic or at least playing

473
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Speaker 3: it safe, somewhat of a great court there. We had

474
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Speaker 3: new balls, did you see those? You had new designs

475
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 3: on the balls. Obviously we got the new sponsor name again,

476
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 3: the new court designs. I want to know, on a

477
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Speaker 3: scale of one to ten tasks, how would you rate

478
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 3: specifically the courts, but maybe the overall presentation of Night

479
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: one of the NBA Cup. One being extremely low, ten

480
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: being extremely high. Where are you going?

481
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say with the courts, because that's for the

482
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: advertising and the promotion of the NBA Cup and how

483
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 2: they've simply put it all together. It's improved drastically from

484
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 2: year to Alfter year one, there were some some it

485
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: just bumps in the road. Last year. Now it's a

486
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: lot better. But as far as the courts go, because

487
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: this is a drastic change, they went from runways it

488
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: looked like airplane runways down the middle, to these sometimes

489
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: way too loud courts to the ones that we were

490
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 2: just mentioning with Trey, which are far more almost beige gray.

491
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: These these colors that are yeah, it's far more muted

492
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: and it's far more palatable. So it's it's like there's

493
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 2: two extremes here, the blue ones, the Sixers or the

494
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: box or the Celtics green way too loud. Those ones

495
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 2: are just way too loud. Even Derek White was asked

496
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Speaker 2: about it as he came off the court in the

497
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: second quarter. He was asked, how do you like the court?

498
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: He goes, Uh, they're good. Takes some takes some getting

499
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 2: used to. That's not a good Derek White impression, but

500
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's basically what he's saying. They're not that good.

501
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: They're too loud though, the ones specifically six Ers Bucks,

502
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Piston's blue and the Celtics green way too loud. But

503
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: the Magic Court it's like gray and beige, and then

504
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: it's it's such a less bold color. It just works

505
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: better with all the other things that are on there,

506
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: like the NBA Cup at mid court and in both lanes,

507
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: the gray beige just works way better. So I like those.

508
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: I like the Warrior ones, the Jazz one as well,

509
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: and and then the rose colored of the Rose Garden

510
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: with the shapes of the roses in Portland specifically, that's different.

511
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: I mean I like that.

512
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: I like that one. So so there's there's good ones.

513
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: There are good ones which are the far more neutral ones,

514
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: which we talked about even leading up, like the I

515
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: guess one's going to be good too, because it just

516
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: makes way more sense to have, yeah, a little contrast

517
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: rather than that boom. What are these courts? Everybody who

518
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: was a casual was literally looking at these courts and saying,

519
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: what are those for? They're too loud off the top,

520
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: they're way too loud when it comes to Celtics, those

521
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: greens and blues. But the other ones are good, so

522
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: like it sounds like you're in the middle.

523
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, six because some of them were good and

524
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: some of them are not. It's all about eight games

525
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: last night.

526
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's eight games last night, and it was it

527
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: was about a fifty percent good and fifty percent not.

528
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: But it feels like, you know, I haven't gone and

529
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 2: done the numbers, but it feels like there's more drastic,

530
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: loud colors coming. Yeah. Then there are these sort of

531
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: more mutant, more neutral colors which are good, I think.

532
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you. I actually hated

533
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: watching any of the action on those blue courts and

534
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: the Celtics green with obviously like the tetris pieces, the

535
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: parquet they're doing there, the design, it was it's just

536
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: too much. Yeah, it doesn't look good. I'm sorry, it

537
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: just doesn't look good. And yeah the blue Philly, Detroit

538
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: and I guess Milwaukee all similar blues, very bright, just

539
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 3: too much blue. Just that's the thing. It's like, it's

540
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 3: just too much that it like is not it's not

541
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: appealing to watch, and it's not kind on the ice.

542
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 3: So the other ones, as maybe as boring as they

543
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: might be, they're just better. I think like the other

544
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: ones that you just talked about. Oh yeah, so they are. Yeah,

545
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: I'm with you last night, at least new Cup court designs.

546
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm a five. Yeah, I'm right in the middle.

547
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: And sometimes it can get even too loud with the designs,

548
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: like the photoshop layers are just way too high, Like

549
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: the layers of that W that's on the Warriors court.

550
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: Do you really even need that? I mean those ones.

551
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: I say that that before I say those that doesn't

552
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: really stand out when you watch it, like that W

553
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: that's on there, So it's not a big deal. The

554
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: more important part is just that color. Like do these

555
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: guys enjoy running up and down a green floor or

556
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 2: a blue floor? I don't know. It literally looks like

557
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: it's glowing on the TV. It does look like way

558
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: too much. There's no doubt about that. But then some

559
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: these other ones, Yeah, I wonder what the guy players feel.

560
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: And I know, like when Derek White was interviewed, he

561
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: had to play the the NBA card and say yea, yeah,

562
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: they're good. Yeah he didn't. He was talking Abby Abby

563
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: Chin knew that he didn't like it.

564
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: Derek White knew the players going to object to playing.

565
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

566
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 3: NBA Cup. Well, it's you're not going out there. I

567
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: know how I feel about Blue.

568
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 2: I mean they're so loud, running up and down the floor.

569
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't bother them as much as the

570
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: eyes do on TV.

571
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're looking at the entire thing the whole time. Man,

572
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: maybe it's different. Yeah, let's hear from you guys. You know,

573
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: are they better than last year's worse? At least what

574
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: we've seen so far. We're gonna get a whole lot

575
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: more on Friday night when we get to Night two

576
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: of the NBA Cup in season tournament. All right, next

577
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: one here, let's get to this. Making his season debut,

578
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 3: Philadelphia seventy six er center Dowell and Be scored thirteen

579
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: points in one to eleven ninety nine loss to the

580
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: Knicks last night. And Be played just over twenty six minutes.

581
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: He finished two to eleven from the field, three boards,

582
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: five assists. Scale of one to ten. How are you

583
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: grading in Beid's season debut?

584
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Probably a two. I mean he looks bad, So you

585
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: can go both ways. As a fan. You can think, well,

586
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: come on, he hasn't played in a while. He just

587
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: needs to get his legs under him. That is the

588
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 2: past of Joel Embiids's career. That's the way he is

589
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: after he takes a while to come back, or he

590
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: could be on the other side and say, well he's done. Yeay, right,

591
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: this is sort of the end of his career, which

592
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: we've seen with other bigs before. I tend to lead

593
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: it the former. I mean, why would he be drastically

594
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: done in his career forty years old? Yeah, yeah, he's

595
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 2: still in his prime. But you can say, you know,

596
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: as a negative person, you can say, you only played

597
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: half the season last year's his knees are a lot

598
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: older than his mind is and his body is so

599
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: there's that. There's that you can think he's just too

600
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: old and he's done. That being said, I mean, yes,

601
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: the shots look bad. He was just flat everything. He

602
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: didn't look like he wanted to run up and down

603
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: the floor. There was one time where he was guarring

604
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brunson at the three point line and he was

605
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: able to chase him down all the way to the rim,

606
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: close to the rim, and John Brunson had to say, okay,

607
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna stop and bump you and

608
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: get the foul, key move, smart move. So so that

609
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: looked like Joel Embiid, who scares everybody on the defensive end,

610
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: just just for a second. It didn't happen very often.

611
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns Is blocked Joel Embiid's jumper from mid

612
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: range like that was a beautiful Yeah, that was a

613
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: beautiful block.

614
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: Don't see that often from Cat. No, no, not from

615
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: Cat and even Embiids being a monster shooting pretty high.

616
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah that's rare.

617
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: I thought that too. Whoa, he really doesn't have it? Yeah,

618
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: I mean not. I don't think anbody was surprised. No,

619
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: And it's not great if you're Sixers fan seeing your

620
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: franchise center, who you just gave a huge extension to

621
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: max max money obviously not start the season and then

622
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: get the weird suspension and then in his first game.

623
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 3: You know, not I was gonna say begging to be

624
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: asked out, but definitely like take me out. I'm tired

625
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: that like in five minutes. It just you know, it

626
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: all goes to whether you believe someone like stan Van

627
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: Gunny when he's on the call say there is just

628
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: no way to get in NBA game shape. Then but

629
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: play in NBA games. You just can't do it. Some

630
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: people may roll their eyes at that. Some people say

631
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: really you can't do other things to keep your cardio up,

632
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: and say stay in some better shape. That's up to

633
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: you to decide whether you believe Van Gundy or not.

634
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: I think there's some truth to it for sure, that

635
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: that game speed and all that, you just can't replicate

636
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: it in any sort of practice or probably anything else

637
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: you do. But that was it was bad. I'm with

638
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: you on the one or two here on the scale.

639
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: It couldn't have gone much worse. No, because he scored

640
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: once in the paint. Yeah, once he was getting fronted

641
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: by Bridges, and then.

642
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: That one that won, He's scoring a paint. It was

643
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: flat footed, just oh yeah, I could just easily just

644
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: put this off.

645
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: He fronted Bridges, they got it into him. Brunson helped,

646
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: who's like my height, and then be like yeah, he's like,

647
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: oh geez, okay, these guys are much smaller than me.

648
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll just put this one in. But otherwise it

649
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: was settling. It was like floating defensively. He was not

650
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: engaged really at all. He just looked like a giant

651
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: man who was out of shape.

652
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And the difference is this season with the

653
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: Sixers the previous seasons with Embiid is that it started

654
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: right at the beginning of the season where he was

655
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: sitting out on purpose to hopefully be healthy for the playoffs.

656
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: And that is a positive sign, as bad as it

657
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: looks now for Sixers fans. He wants to be good

658
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: for the playoffs. He wants to win a championship. He

659
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: doesn't care about winning an MVP anymore. He's done that.

660
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: But he has played through injury after injury after injury

661
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: with this team and he just wanted to be good

662
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: for the playoffs. So that's why it looks different like

663
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: you have to make the playoffs. Ye oh, good things.

664
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: They're in the Eastern Conference and that shouldn't be a problem.

665
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: But yes they are not. They're not up in the standings,

666
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: sitting at fourteenth out of fifteen teams, sitting at two

667
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: and eight, and they're not going to play him in

668
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: back to backs. He's not playing tonight.

669
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: Paul George's confirmed he's not playing tonight.

670
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: It's not but I don't think so. But he said

671
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: prior to the season, you know I'm not playing back

672
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: to back, same with Paul Jeorde. And that's the scary part.

673
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: Both of those guys. I mean, Darryl Morey said it

674
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: in September before Paul George got injured. He said, we

675
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: have to look at both these guys and how much

676
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: they play this season. He didn't say that both those guys,

677
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: he said other guys than Embid and he must have

678
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: been meeting Paul George because stan Van said it on

679
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: the broadcast that Joel Embiid has played more games in

680
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: the last five seasons than Paul George. I said, how

681
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: is that possible? And it is totally true. We've talked

682
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: about Paul George's injuries in the past and it is true.

683
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: You know, he missed a playoff run with the Clippers.

684
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: So that's the scary part. I think, beyond the b part,

685
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: this guy is going to play through everything. He played

686
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: through Bell's policy last year, he played through every injury.

687
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: But the scary part is seven playoffs that he's played in,

688
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: five he's missed games in and the other ones he's

689
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: like last year, played through injury where he hasn't looked

690
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: on hundred percent. So I'm not so scared about him

691
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: looking you know, bad twenty percent of himself here early,

692
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: but combined that with Paul George, yeah, you could be

693
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more concerned that you gave Paul George

694
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: four years of money that the Clippers weren't willing to

695
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: do for a reason, and Joel Embiid's paying him until

696
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: he's I guess it's thirty four or so. Yeah, it's

697
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: a little.

698
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: Scary, Shan. You're going to need to, of course start

699
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: winning some games. There is that part you're lucky you

700
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: are in the East and you're like two games out

701
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: of a playoff spot despite being two and eight. But

702
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: then the other part is like, of course building some

703
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: chemistry between the three superstars, I mean Embiid, Paul George

704
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: and then Tyres Maxie who didn't play of last night,

705
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: and you know they're going to like you don't want

706
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: to do sort of what the Suns happened with them

707
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: last year and like they're just you're building no sort

708
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: of basketball chemistry between your superstar players. Like when I'm

709
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: talking you know, Beal Durant Booker only playing you know,

710
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: whatever it was, it wasn't enough. It turned out to

711
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: like really build the chemistry. So that's the issue too. Yes,

712
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: at least Paul George had a good game for six

713
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: Ers fans. Jared McCain had another really good game as

714
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: the rook off the bench. He looks solid. I wonder

715
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: if he'll be inserted into the starting lineup. It's a

716
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: possible like to sort of replic Kate Tyrese Maxey. He

717
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: plays a lot more like MAXI than Kyle Lowry plays

718
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: in terms of the way he goes about scoring and

719
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: and speed and his size and stuff like that. Maybe

720
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: that's something Nurse tries here. EMBIID like this is like,

721
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: you just wonder how long how long will it take

722
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: for EMBIID to look like the MVP like EMBIID the

723
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: monster EMBIAD Like they're going to take a couple of games,

724
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: gonna take a couple of weeks.

725
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Right, what is it? But when he was out there

726
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: at times, because he is such a magnet and he

727
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: draws so much of the attention of the defense, he

728
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: was creating good plays. Even though he's going to the

729
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: free throw line. He wasn't scoring. The shot is extremely flat.

730
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: Everything was hit in the front of the room. No

731
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: ark on those shots.

732
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: But he's still I mean, unless you think he's like

733
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, a big Shack at the end of his career, right,

734
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: how could he pop?

735
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: That's what Bill Simmons was debating with like Kirk Goldsberry

736
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: and Jacoby this morning, Like if you had to say,

737
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: what Shack version is embiid right now? Where do you go?

738
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: And the debate was like is he still well? Was

739
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: he still obviously sort of in his prime and he'll

740
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 3: get there like Shack or is he more like Miami

741
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: Heat Shack where it's like every once in a while

742
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: and had to play himself into shape or is it

743
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: like getting to like Phoenix Sun's Shack where it's like

744
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: you start to go h oh, Yeah, you know because

745
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: of his size and you know that it's like he's

746
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: not a max player anymore. Yeah, it's I mean he

747
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: played one game. He played twenty five minutes. We're gonna

748
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: have a little bit more time. But not a great start.

749
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

750
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: Anything on the Knicks though, I mean there's quality win here.

751
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: I know they're playing sort of a depleted Sixers team,

752
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: but any thoughts on them?

753
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the effort, Yeah, fight. When Joon Brunson

754
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: went out after turning his ankle, everybody was willing to

755
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: uh to participate beside him. We saw Jared McCain be

756
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: the number one guy off the bench for the seventy

757
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: six ers, which could be great for them. And I

758
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: want to speak about the guy off the bench for

759
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: the Knicks. Duce McBride was off. He was good, He

760
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: was so good, and so they have they have a

761
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: lot of weapons if duce McBride can help their lack

762
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: of depth, because that was the sort of the scary part.

763
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: But this next team, in the same way, we haven't

764
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: got a good feel for them until Mitchell Robinson comes

765
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: back in the new year, where you've got this monster

766
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: beside Karl Anthony Towns who can defer a bunch of shots.

767
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: I know it's really not sexy and people aren't talking

768
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: about the defense of the New York Knicks, but that's

769
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: the important part for this New York Knicks team. Once

770
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: he gets back, how good they'll look. But yeah, they

771
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: they still they still are not themselves, and they know

772
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: they need every player in their depth and they need

773
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: a guy like Mitchell Robinson who's damn good at being

774
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: a defensive center.

775
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: To me, though, that felt like the most nixy win

776
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: of their of their young season and they're five and

777
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: five and they're not panicking. And honestly, Karl Anthony Towns

778
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 3: has played really well for a guy who slotted into

779
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: this team. But like that, you know, you had, you

780
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: had guys like this was a close game for a

781
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: majority of the game, and then sort of in the

782
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: fourth quarter of the Knicks took over where it was

783
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: like og and obviously Brunson and Kat like that was

784
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: it was promising. I was like, okay, yeah, then you

785
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: start to understand, like, oh yeah, maybe they can get

786
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: some of that mojo back from from last year's Knicks

787
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: teams and you start to see the vision. There so

788
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: a quality at least second half there from the Knicks

789
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: or that fourth quarter thirty three to twenty four. Let's

790
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: keep it moving here. We got to talk about the

791
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: ending of last night's Heat Pistons game, and I will

792
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: set this up for everybody that maybe missed. It started

793
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: with Tyler Hero hitting three three pointers in the last

794
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 3: eighty two seconds of regulation to come back from down

795
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: nine to force overtime. The Pistons had this game, it

796
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: was over. Tyler Hero said no, we're going to ot.

797
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: Then in overtime, Hero hits a jumper to put Miami

798
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: up one nineteen. There's one point eight seconds left, so

799
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 3: after a timeout, dvance the ball to half court. Cad

800
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: Cunningham hits Jalen Durham with a beauty alley off of

801
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: the inbounds pass. Great play there from Bickerstaff and the Pistons.

802
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: Spoe then calls time out right away. Not much time left, right,

803
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: you're going want to advance the ball, get a shot up.

804
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: One problem the Heat were out of timeouts. That's a technical.

805
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: That's a free throw for Beasley, who's like a ninety

806
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: free throw shooter. He hits it, and with those type

807
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: of technicals, you also hit the ball. So the Pistons

808
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: got the ball and it was basically game over. I

809
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: think Beasley hit another free throw to ice it. On

810
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: a scale of one to ten tests, how batshit crazy?

811
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: Was that Heat Pistons overtime Cup game?

812
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, it's easily a ten. It it's under the radar

813
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: because of the other games. You know, not everybody noticing

814
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: this one. And listen, even the greats like Eric Spoltra

815
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Flubb and that was just a flub. It was just

816
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: a mistake on his part. Also, Nikola Yovich of the

817
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: Miami heat broke his nose in this game.

818
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: That was gross. Yes, yes, and Tim Hardaway Junior had

819
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: to get wheelchaired off this game. Oh yeah, you have

820
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 3: a serious injury too.

821
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot of bad things. Yeah. I looked

822
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: like Malik Beasley had just he broke Yovich's nose and

823
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: came through there. Yes, where as we've talked about before,

824
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: that was unfortnate. He was yelling, He's screaming, So yeah,

825
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: a while the ending kind of looked like Tyler Hero

826
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: was saving the day for Miami.

827
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a forty burger last night out here.

828
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: It was every shot imaginable down the stretch. And then yeah,

829
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: like you said Spolstra, like, did you see his comments

830
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: after the game? He was like, I mean he took

831
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: like no one to blame but himself. Yeah, he's like

832
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: he even said, like we talked about it in the

833
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: timeout prior I knew there was no timeouts. Just caught

834
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: up in the moment, the intensity of the game and

835
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: just probably honestly, probably just reflexes, right, like, damn, we

836
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: just gave up a backdoor lob tie game time out,

837
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh crap, do we have any of

838
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: those no, we don't. And what made it even wilder

839
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 3: was Jalen Rose was in attendance. Shout out to the director, producers,

840
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: whoever was you know, you know, broadcasting this game to

841
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: get Jalen Rose's reaction, because holy Chris Weber PTSD. It

842
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: just amazing. It was like, took this this brain fart

843
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: from Spolstra not having a time that he called to

844
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: the next level that Jalen Rose is in person there

845
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: and obviously involved in that Weber game back in college.

846
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, nuts and a great yeah, a great moment reacts

847
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: that the producer would say that guy, that guy camp

848
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: before get Jalen Rose on. Yeah, it felt like a

849
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 2: movie from Yeah, it felt like Michigan was coming back

850
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: for a second. But Tyler Hero needs his back against

851
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: the ball, I guess. I mean we saw a great

852
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero like we talked about maybe sometimes it's just

853
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: a moment where he feels like like your back is

854
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: against the wall, like he could be one of those

855
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: guys like you know, it's the fourth quarter, Tyler Hero,

856
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: it's actually the first quarter, but it's the fourth quarter,

857
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: like we need you man. But he looked like an

858
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: absolutely different player and the peak Tyler Hero that we

859
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: all thought could happen after the twenty twenty finals. It

860
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: feels long ago, and Tyler Hero has not become a

861
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: player that we all expected him to be, so that

862
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: he was looked like one of the top five six

863
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: players when he was just balling.

864
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah out there. He tied the Heats franchise record for

865
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: most pointers made in a game with ten last night,

866
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: shares the mark with Brian Shaw, Mario Chalmers, yeah, Duncan Robinson,

867
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 3: and then Hero did it himself back in twenty twenty two.

868
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: So ten is the Heat record and that's what Hero

869
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: got to I mean, went right, no, right, and oh

870
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: my god. This was one of those ones where it

871
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: was like, especially Cad Cunningham, who had a really bad

872
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: couple of minutes down the stretch where they were giving

873
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: this away, and to Tobias Harris too, I was like,

874
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: what are you doing, Detroit? But they usually lose these games,

875
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: and they came out with the victory in the end. Again,

876
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: nice play call there to get during the dunk and

877
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: nice pass from Cad, and then you know they got

878
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: gifted this one from Spoke. They got gifted the Beasley

879
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: free throw, and obviously to keep the ball, which I

880
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: didn't know. Our guy John Hollinger said, you know, because

881
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people were confused by that, like what

882
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: the tech like the technical foul, you know, the Heat

883
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: don't get the ball at least it was like implemented

884
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: in like nineteen seventy six. It's like the Paul Westfall

885
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: rule where he basically he figured out, well, I could

886
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: call a time out that we don't have and maybe

887
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: then you know, play the game where we at least

888
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: get the ball, like yeah, you'll shoot the technical but

889
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: we get the ball. So they had to change it

890
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: because it was sort of a loophole, which is really fascinating,

891
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: like way back in the seventies. So that is why

892
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: the Pistons got the ball and then obviously got to

893
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: the line again crazy ending, Yeah, you have to put

894
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 3: that one at the ten on the batchit crazy because

895
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: it was nuts, all right. Related question, I guess this

896
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: is not on the scale, but what was the most

897
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: surprising result from last night's NBA Cup play? Was it

898
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: that one? Was it the Pistons who have more wins

899
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: than the Heat till maybe not? Or was another game

900
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: that you were like, WHOA, I can't believe that team

901
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: beete that team.

902
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: Well. Obviously, the Hawks beating the Boston Celtics in Boston

903
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: is sort of.

904
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: With no Tree Young or Bogdanovitch Yeh DeAndre.

905
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: H like watching all of these eight games, I was

906
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: into it. And I speak badly about these bold courts,

907
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: but I was definitely into it. Again. I think the

908
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: NBA has done a good job of just getting more

909
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: people into the NBA Cup, making November slash December games

910
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more involved. Because I was watching the

911
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 2: Orlando Magic and I was watching Franz Wagner, the German,

912
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: pulling off his Germans idle moves of the Dirk step

913
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: back a couple of times. He looked real good. Without

914
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: Paula Boncarro, his shots were landing so easily twenty three

915
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: in the first half thirty two. Overall, it was getting

916
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Paulo Boncarro off the bench and cheering and being excited.

917
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: And watched Paula Boncaro be interviewed by the Orlando Magic

918
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: broadcast team and they gave him a cake because it

919
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: was his birthday. He was twenty two, and Paula Boncaro said, oh,

920
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: that's love, that's love, getting a cake on his birthday,

921
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: and so I say all that, that's birthdays. Yeah, that's birthdays.

922
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: But he felt good about you. I mean it was

923
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: just a regular cake too. It wasn't like he didn't

924
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: write anything on it. Looks like, yeah, well Paulo spoke

925
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 2: about this team. I just bring up the magic because

926
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: everybody thinks now they're done. Paulo bon Caro's out for

927
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: a long time. They lost every single game on that

928
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: road trip with paul Buoncaro down. But they've gone home

929
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: and they've won three straight.

930
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 3: They've kicked a snot out of team. So they played

931
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: some bad teams. They played bad teams dominated.

932
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Charlotte and Wizards, and so it's not a

933
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: big win to look at them beating the Charlotte Hornets.

934
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: That being said, they're at six and six, and now

935
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: what are they third? I think they're third in the

936
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference because they're six and six, and so they

937
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: have played an inspired ball since coming home. But the

938
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: Hawks beating the Celtics, that was bonkers because it did

939
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: feel like the Celtics were coming away with this game

940
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: in the third quartercas they're up double digits. Yeah, they

941
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: were sixteen point favorites before this game and the Atlanta

942
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Hawks come out and beat them because they just were

943
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: working a little bit harder. It was the flashbacks of

944
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: March when the Celtics beat the Atlanta Hawks. I'm excuse me.

945
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: The other way around. The Alanta Hawks beat the Boss

946
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: and Celtics just past March twice because they wanted it

947
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more. And in this one, the Hawks

948
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: took twenty five more shots because they got twenty offensive rebounds.

949
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: They took one hundred shots in this game. Flashbacks to

950
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: Sam Mitchell, old coach saying more shots. We need to

951
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: shoot one hundred shots. That was the goal, you know,

952
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: we need to speed it up.

953
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 3: And the game winning shot was an offensive rebound.

954
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hoongkongu, who got blocked last week by Kate Cunningham

955
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: to lose a game to the Detroit Pistons, was able

956
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: to win it. So that was It was fun in

957
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: the way that they came back. Dyson Daniels was amazing

958
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: again because I mentioned, you know that they took twenty

959
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: five more shots, so they kept getting offensive rebounds after

960
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: offense rebounds. But they're also turning over the Boston Celtics.

961
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels on Jason Tatum was really good. Six steals

962
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: for this guy, the guy who leads the league in

963
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: steals and deflections per game three and a half seals

964
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: and seven and a half deflections per game. Dyson Daniels

965
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: is really good at the defensive end. He is awesome.

966
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: And he's playing Jason Tatum, who came back after stepping

967
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: on Giannis's foot in the last game, so he probably

968
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: didn't look one hundred percent. But all that to say,

969
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: this is just one game. Just like those two games

970
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 2: in March, we're you know when de Jontay Murray scored

971
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: forty four points on forty four shots, but they were

972
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: working hard. And this you know, without Trey to see

973
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: Jayleen Johnson with a triple double and Dyson Daniels and

974
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: even Recesschet didn't have a great shooting game. Those three

975
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: guys are the future of this team. Yeah, especially defensively.

976
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: So that was that was great. And then Grady Dick

977
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: was great too, although he didn't have a good shooting

978
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: night in the end, but he had that magical shot.

979
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: He's coming around the perimeter, slowed down, slow the pace

980
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: and then gets to the baseline to do that side shot.

981
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: You have thirty two points in that game where the

982
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Bucks finally got au W.

983
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles Barkley won't say Grady Dick's name. Did you

984
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: see that clip going around?

985
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: He just won't say great, He doesn't want.

986
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: To say Dick. Shaq was loving it. Yeah. I have

987
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: the Hawks beating the Celtics the way they did it

988
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: with no tray especially but Daniel's career high twenty eight points,

989
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: Jalen Johnson another triple double. He's going to rack up

990
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: a lot more of those over his career. And a

991
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: conglu with that tip in off of Daniels miss. I mean,

992
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 3: if a Congo didn't tip it in, I think Larry

993
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: nance Junior was maybe going to tip it in, or

994
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: there was another Hawks in that play too. I felt

995
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: bad for Jalen Brown. He was like trying to block

996
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: out three Hawks players that were crashing the glass there

997
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: and then and then well, both teams traded basically turnovers

998
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: and Jalen Brown had a chance at the buzzer but

999
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: he missed. But Dyson Daniels twenty three steals over his

1000
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: last four games. I was in the stat head last night.

1001
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a hell of a lot of steels

1002
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: over a four game span. Yeah, not many other players

1003
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: have ever done more than twenty four steals over a

1004
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: four game span. It's like Elvin Robertson did it a

1005
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: couple times. Kendall Gill. I think Doc Rivers had a stretch.

1006
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: I maybe missing another name. Oh, Robert Covington did too,

1007
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 3: back in his Philly days. But yeah, I was not

1008
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: expecting Sir Robert Covington himself. But Dyson daniels Man the

1009
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: human vacuum. Now he is amazing, goblin up those steals

1010
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: right now, defen So the Hawks would maybe be my

1011
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: pick because I did watch a lot of that one.

1012
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: But uh, the Blazers, Yeah, of course. Beating the Wolves

1013
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: is pretty damn surprising. Blazers entered the game as the

1014
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: second worst three point shooting team in the NBA. They

1015
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: shot eighteen for thirty two from deep in a win

1016
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: over the Wolves. That was whoa was that just a

1017
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: weird night where the opposition in the Wolves case, just

1018
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: couldn't miss from three. I mean, that's fifty six percent

1019
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: from deep. It's gonna be tough to lose a game

1020
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: when you shoot that many at that clip, But you know,

1021
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: this is a Cup game. That's a shocking one and

1022
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: maybe well, definitely hurts the chances for the Wolves to advance.

1023
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: I they're gonna have to win outright and probably take

1024
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: care of those opposition teams like the other teams in

1025
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: point differential, So that was surprising.

1026
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Wolves and Celtics now are unlikely going to

1027
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: make the next round, right, Yeah, I'd heard it definitely hurts,

1028
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: but it was cool to see the Blazers and starting

1029
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: different guys like Avidya came off the bench and Scoot

1030
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: came off the bench to kill him. They were so good.

1031
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: It was. It was just some pretty plays like Danny

1032
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: Avidia to be able to cross over and hit that

1033
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: end of third quarter shot and this Scoot shot underneath

1034
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: the hoop, the scoop, the Scoot scoop. That was pretty.

1035
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 2: And you know he was doing the yelling to the camera.

1036
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: Wasn't quite Steph Curry yelling to the camera, but he

1037
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: was yelling at the camera. So yes, obviously that was

1038
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: a fantastic ending there. It just felt like there's some

1039
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 2: fake things happening in the NBA yesterday. I mean there wasn't,

1040
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: but to see like Larry Nance now leads the league

1041
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: in three point percent, She's shooting seventy three three point percent. Sorry, yeah,

1042
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: seventy three.

1043
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 3: Larry Nance is leading the league in three I mean

1044
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: he's probably hasn't taken it.

1045
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: He hasn't taken a ton. But then I saw the

1046
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: guy coming into the last night leading the league in

1047
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: three point percenters was the Bucks Aj Green, who comes

1048
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: off the ball.

1049
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: He doesn't shoot threes.

1050
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: That's literally that's all he does, has even too much shot.

1051
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: So he was first start of the game as season.

1052
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: Last night, Bucks are saying, all right, let's let's try

1053
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: something new here. Coming in he had thirty eight shots,

1054
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: all threes. He was shooting sixty percent from three, leading

1055
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: the league. But he had a cold one yesterday. He

1056
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: was he was four or fourteen, but all threes. So

1057
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: he's so he's taking fifty two shots. Fifty two shots,

1058
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: and he hasn't taken a two point shot. They're all wow,

1059
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: but he's dropped in three point percentage below Larry Nance.

1060
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Now yeah, so I was just like, he has must

1061
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: have taken a two point shot, somebody rant a.

1062
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: Rebound or something in the back up.

1063
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: But he's taking fifty So I had to check all

1064
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: these stats. No, uh yeah, and the yeah, the Portland

1065
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: one on that rose court. Did you like the court?

1066
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: But I like that court? I did. I mean if

1067
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: because I liked it because it wasn't all red red accents,

1068
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: the floral rose like insert or whatever you want to say.

1069
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: I like that. I liked it. I mean it was

1070
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: That was a nice one in my opinion. And it

1071
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: was nice to see time Lord have a monster game.

1072
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: Oh he looked like the third Yeah, that's a guy

1073
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: that's still in this league. I know he always gets injured.

1074
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: But nine to ten last night, nineteen points, nine boards,

1075
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: three steals, three blocks off the bench, the whole bench

1076
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: for the Blazers was amazing. Nice to see uh shadon sharp,

1077
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: like finding his rhythm and legs a little bit. He

1078
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 3: missed the start of the season. I think he's played

1079
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: last three or four. I thought he had a pretty

1080
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: good game.

1081
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, the lots of games, like the Celtics Hawks

1082
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: under the rear, they just kind of get swept under

1083
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 2: the rug a little bit. I complained about the NBA

1084
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: app yesterday. They probably aren't even on the rules. No,

1085
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: but also also the Blazers Wolves one. I mean the

1086
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: Timani Comara, who was at the same school, went to

1087
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: College here at Georgia with Anthony Edwards and they were

1088
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: talking smack a ton of it in this game, right,

1089
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: Tony Comra. We don't talk about him a lot, but

1090
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: he had a great game in this one in hitting

1091
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: shots right in Anthony Edwards face hitting four threes. But

1092
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: as you said, like it was a special night for

1093
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: those dudes to be hitting three after three after three

1094
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: and Delano Banton off the bench. He was awesome in

1095
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: this game too.

1096
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 3: He played in the first half, first quarter.

1097
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: I guess he used to be the closer. Only last

1098
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: week he was just the guy who played fourth quarters.

1099
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: But now he's He was out there just latering. Like

1100
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: when we we used to watch him in the Runner

1101
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: Raptors days, he would just take over a little too much.

1102
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: Things would go through them a little too much. But

1103
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: in this game he could do it. He was taking

1104
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: I think it was a thirty footer bang. He was

1105
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: comfortable doing it. He looks like a new guy. So

1106
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what these Blazers, but they're inspired.

1107
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: Floor for sure. Last night got the easy victory. It

1108
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: was one twenty two to one oh eight in the

1109
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: end over the Wolves. Yeah, let's get back to the

1110
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: scale here though, the Pelicans suffered another injury blow to

1111
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: their season. They lost guard Jose Alvarado for six weeks

1112
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: due to a hamstring strain.

1113
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: Yikes.

1114
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: Suffered this in Monday's lost to the Nets. Let me

1115
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: give you the quick inventory here of the New Orleans

1116
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: injury shelf de Jontay Murray broke his hand on opening night.

1117
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: He isn't expected to be back until maybe late November.

1118
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: Zion Williamson is out indefinitely with a hamstring injury. See

1119
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: j McCollum is out with an adductor strain. Herb Jones

1120
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: is out with a mild rotator cuff tear, Jordan Hawkins

1121
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: is out with a backstrain, and now Jose Alvarado for

1122
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: a month and a half with a hamstring strain as well.

1123
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: On a scale of one to ten, how depressing has

1124
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: this Pelican season been?

1125
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: Most depressed being a ten? I asome? Yeah, yeah, nine

1126
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: point nine nine nine nine nine, as close as you

1127
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: can possibly get. Yeah, because there are.

1128
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: Some there's some guys that haven't got injured yet.

1129
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: There are some alright moments as well so far. But basically,

1130
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: like as you go through the the inventory, November is

1131
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: just shot.

1132
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: Really yeah, they're three and eight I think at this point.

1133
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then yeah, add in another ten games to

1134
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: get you to around twenty that they would have played

1135
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: if they're healthy through November. So you got another sixty

1136
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: games I guess to get things right because some of

1137
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: those guys you mentioned will be coming back around then.

1138
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: And so if it was in the East, I'd say, yeah,

1139
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: not a problem. They could come back.

1140
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 3: A little different in the West.

1141
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: It's not how it works. They don't see teams one

1142
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: through sixteen. Doesn't matter what conference you're play in, you

1143
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: have to be part of those top ten. And when

1144
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: you're talking top ten right now, if you're going to

1145
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: go through them, the ones that are actually in it

1146
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: suns okay, see Golden State, Denver, Houston, Memphis, those are

1147
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: the two I guess you could see falling Lakers, Clippers, Wolves, Kings.

1148
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: Those are the top ten. MAVs are below it. So

1149
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: it's a little too scary for them, I think to

1150
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: even say that they're going to come back. I mean,

1151
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough, tough schedule for sixty games

1152
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: without Alvarado too. That's their death is just gone.

1153
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: Okay. So then the question is with brandon Ingram on

1154
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: an expiring deal, probably wanting some sort of max contract

1155
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: next season. Doesn't feel like the Pelicans want to be

1156
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: that team to give it to them. You know, they

1157
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 3: did probably try and trade Unduring the offseason, had no suitors,

1158
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: Like do you just do the old We'll take pennies

1159
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: on the dollar type of deal for Ingram and look

1160
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 3: to move them even more aggressively. I know, like it's

1161
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: maybe nice to have them because you got a healthy

1162
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: guy that at least plays, But like, at the same time,

1163
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm getting at. Are you looking at

1164
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 3: the season almost as a complete watch and maybe a

1165
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: move Ingram again you get a pick or something or

1166
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: a young prospect. I don't think it's gonna be a

1167
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: ton I think it's gonna be similar to the Siakam deal.

1168
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: That's sort of what I think. So it's not gonna

1169
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: be good. That wasn't all that good. But do you

1170
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: do it? And you're just like, this is a weird season,

1171
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: This is a wash. This is sort of what the

1172
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: Grizzlies went through last year. I know there was some

1173
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: different circumstances with John RAMPak suspended, but everybody got injured

1174
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: and it was like, Okay, it's just one of those years.

1175
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: What do you think the Pelican should or will do.

1176
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: I think they will trade him. I think David Griffin

1177
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: gets looked at and gets ridiculed and and takes the

1178
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: oh you could have got way more a year ago.

1179
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: That kind of Yes, unfortunately, will will be what people

1180
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: are saying. That being said, you just gotta take it.

1181
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: You just gotta take what you can get at this point.

1182
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: Anything, Yeah, because he's not gonna be signing there, do you.

1183
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: Think, yeah, well, it would be difficult to sign him

1184
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: with what's going on with Ion. Zion doesn't look right. Unfortunately,

1185
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: it's very unfortunate, and it's a ham string injury. It

1186
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: just feels like that's we thought that this would be

1187
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: the year I did that because he looked extremely healthy,

1188
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: that he put a lot of work into the off season.

1189
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, you would probably just say all right, Sun cost, goodbye,

1190
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram, and hope that you can get Zion Dejonte

1191
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: and the rest of their players back to themselves again

1192
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: and then you have a way better roster and.

1193
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: They have a lot of draft capital, and who knows

1194
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: what comes back in any sort of potential Ingram move

1195
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: like and then you know, it's not like you have

1196
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,959
Speaker 3: to be done oh in terms of packaging young guys

1197
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 3: and prosily it picks for another player to come available

1198
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 3: on the market.

1199
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's.

1200
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 3: Just it's depressing. I'm with you. I mean, you got

1201
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 3: it done at nine point nine. Yeah, I guess that's right. Nine.

1202
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: You can't maybe go all the way ten. Yeah, but

1203
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 3: it's so and it's like this happens year after year

1204
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 3: after year. That's the other part. It feels like and

1205
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: I know they had like when they all play, they're good.

1206
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: They seem like like a lock for a fifty win team.

1207
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: But it's just like what is going on with the

1208
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: men staff there or like I'm convincers like someone in

1209
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: New Orleans with like voodoo dolls, like cursing this team

1210
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: because it doesn't seem it doesn't seem right that like

1211
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: every year, it feels like for three years running, they

1212
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 3: can never have their entire team together. They can't play

1213
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: all at the same time. Someone from their core has

1214
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: to be injured, you know, somewhat significantly too like to

1215
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: miss like months or something like that at the time.

1216
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: So it just sucks. Alvarado the latest one there out

1217
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: of their lineup Final one here. The nation's largest owner

1218
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: of regional sports networks, will now offer single game pricing

1219
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: for games. Okay. Diamond Sports Group, which has the rights

1220
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: to thirteen NBA teams, announced Tuesday that the option will

1221
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 3: be available on its direct to consumer streaming package. It'll

1222
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: cost six dollars and ninety nine cents a game. Task,

1223
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: that's what it's going to put you back in market

1224
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: games only for those teams. On a scale of one

1225
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: dollar to ten dollars. How much would you pay to

1226
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 3: stream a single NBA game?

1227
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: I would pay ten dollars. No, you would, yes, I

1228
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: would know. It's ten dollars. You go to a movie.

1229
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: You go to a movie. A movie costs twenty dollars.

1230
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: Everything costs way more than ten dollars. Everything cast, you

1231
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: want to buy a drink, it ain't five. Everything costs

1232
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: ten dollars. So I would say immediately, yes, I would

1233
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: gladly play six ninety nine.

1234
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: For one game.

1235
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, because it's just one. It's one thing.

1236
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 2: It's gone, it's not a subscription.

1237
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 3: It's just like, yes, I know I get that part,

1238
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 3: but yes, way too high, it's way too high. I

1239
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: want to see the metrics. Who the hell's doing this?

1240
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 3: First off, they do have monthly packages, Like, if you're

1241
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 3: going to be a fan of your team, you should

1242
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 3: probably look at the monthly yearly subscriptions to it's like streaming, right,

1243
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 3: It's like it's more than six pointy nine, of course,

1244
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: but it's like you're getting how many games do you

1245
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: get in a month from your team? I don't know what,

1246
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: fifteen games something like that, So it's like more bang

1247
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: for your buck. But I just want to know how

1248
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: many people And I'm talking like you can do this

1249
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: on the NBA League Pass that by Leave you used

1250
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: to be able to use.

1251
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: I don't think you can anyone.

1252
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 3: They got rid of it because nobody was doing it. Nobody.

1253
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: Why would you get rid of it if you, They

1254
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: would rather have lead pass paid for.

1255
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: They like, what do you know anyone that's ever paid

1256
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: for a single game? Is my I guess my question.

1257
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: I have no friends, so I don't know.

1258
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's ever done it. Well, come on,

1259
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: I don't, because it's not it's got it should be

1260
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: ninety nine cents, it should be a dollar not. I mean,

1261
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: then maybe maybe you might be like, Wow, I want

1262
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: to see Klay Thompson's return to uh To to take

1263
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: on Golden State. But then again, you can't even watch

1264
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: that one because that's going to be on TNT. It's

1265
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: all the marquee games you're basically are going to have

1266
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: on the national networks. Anyway. I don't know. Six nine

1267
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: nine that's since I couldn't believe it.

1268
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: I think that's fine. People are People are paying way

1269
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: more for things, and.

1270
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 3: You know, don't make it right.

1271
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, people don't have a TV package anymore, right, so

1272
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: they say, okay, instead of spending one hundred dollars a

1273
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: month on a TV package or whatever, a YouTube TV package,

1274
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 2: I'll just pay for one game.

1275
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 3: It's ten bucks.

1276
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: People just it's so splintered. The game has changed. Will

1277
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: buy dumb game little add ons? For now? I'm not

1278
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: speaking about NBA games, but some dumb game that you're

1279
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,479
Speaker 2: playing online. You know, what was the game you played?

1280
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: A bike baron? I got some.

1281
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: That's like a decade plus ago, whatever, any of those

1282
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: type of game. I missed that bike baron. Bike Baron, No,

1283
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: what I probably paid? Did I even pay?

1284
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: I think it was a dollar?

1285
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: It was a dollar, yeah, And gave me countless hours

1286
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: of entertainment. I'm gonna get you told me these games

1287
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: are getting faster and faster sixty nine. I'm gonna get

1288
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: a two hour and five minute Hawks game.

1289
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying is that people are spending money in different places,

1290
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: in different ways. I was I was speaking specific I

1291
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: was speaking specifically about like a fort and you add

1292
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: on this dumb add on.

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00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: Micro transactions exactly. Okay, So well then do this fifty

1294
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: cents to watch the first quarter? Do you want to

1295
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: continue to keep watching this game? That'll be a dollar fifty.

1296
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: Okay, this game's closer to the peep show.

1297
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 3: We got a close line coming down this stretch here,

1298
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: throw another dollars.

1299
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: Exactly, Yeah, not bad, not bad.

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00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 3: Well, okay. These stations are now known as fandual Sports Network,

1301
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: right after FanDuel took over for naming rights. I know,

1302
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: all right, then let's do this FanDuel. Let's make a

1303
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: bet if this game's turns into a twenty point blow

1304
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: and I don't got to pay, it's entertaining. Okay, you

1305
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: get my six ninety nine, you'll want to place the bet. FanDuel.

1306
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: They probably would, they'd be like, that'd be great, let's

1307
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: do it. This seems like way too much to be

1308
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: and I just I just don't know anyone doing it,

1309
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: so it's sort of almost weird why they even have it.

1310
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, it's because you don't know people who

1311
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: were going to pay for one game. You just know people.

1312
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: They don't exist. I'm convinced they don't exist.

1313
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: They do.

1314
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: Sure, they've probably made you know, eighteen dollars off this

1315
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 3: or twenty one dollars the three people did Bay accident.

1316
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,479
Speaker 2: There's some fan in every state. There's people in every

1317
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: state in this glorious country of the United States of

1318
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: America that aren't big basketball fans that need to watch

1319
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: eighty two games. There's like one game.

1320
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: I don't think so, yeah, I don't.

1321
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, oh yeah.

1322
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 3: That's where I disagree. That's where I disagree. But you

1323
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: tell us at least on the scale of one to

1324
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: ten dollars, test wants to go higher than tenant sounds

1325
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: like one one hundred dollars.

1326
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: Let's stay where you're in. But I think the seven

1327
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: people will pay seven dollars.

1328
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: It is.

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: It is interesting. We should see the numbers of when

1330
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: the NBA used to do it on their own app

1331
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: it was six ninety nine.

1332
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: Was it the exact price?

1333
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: It's pretty sure, yeah, I think so.

1334
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I do remember that being an option. Again, didn't

1335
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: know anyone that ever did it, but you said they

1336
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: got rid of it, and I think right, I think

1337
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: that because I don't see it marketed anymore. So all right, Well,

1338
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: the thirteen NBA teams that you can do this for,

1339
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: by the way, Hawks, Heat, Calves, Thunder, Pacers, Pistons, Wolves, Hornets,

1340
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: Magic Bucks, Grizzly Spurs, and Clippers. If you're in one

1341
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: of those markets, I guess would you pay six ninety

1342
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: nine to watch your team? All right, let's get to

1343
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 3: our pickham games tonight. Lots of games on I wanted

1344
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: to say, there's eleven games on tonight, yes, yes, yes,

1345
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: the few on ESPN Pelicans, Thunder whoops, yes unfortunately the

1346
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: Pelicans already unfortunately and Grizzlies Lakers. That's at ten. Those

1347
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: are two games on ESPN. But what's our game test?

1348
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, some really good ones that I was contemplating. We

1349
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: get a Calves, Sixers, who knows who's playing for the Sixers,

1350
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: but the Caves trying to get to thirteen to no

1351
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: Pacers magic.

1352
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: That's a good Yeah, I'm in I'm intrigued by that one.

1353
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be a fun one. But I went

1354
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: with one that I was a little surprised that the

1355
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: line was this big for the Rockets at home to

1356
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: the Clippers. Houston is minus four point five favorites, so

1357
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: they got a win by five or more against the

1358
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Slippers. And then I was even more surprised

1359
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: that three of us do believe that the Rockets will

1360
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: win by five or more, while Esh, who's leading the

1361
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: way with a five and one record, I messed up

1362
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: his record on the graphic on the board yesterday. But

1363
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: he's taking the Clippers to lose by four or lesser

1364
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: obviously win the game.

1365
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: Well, we sort of mandated that he had to take

1366
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: the Clippers. I don't think. I'm not even sure he's

1367
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: awake yet on the West Coast, But after we all

1368
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: took the Rockets, I feel like it's only right that

1369
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: he's got to take the Clips.

1370
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody likes a we're not putting running the board.

1371
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: Four logos of the same team up there. What's the point? Yeah,

1372
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: And it feels right to me. I know it's an

1373
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 3: unofficial pick up rule, but like there is something to

1374
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 3: especially if you're leading. It's like it's like if everybody

1375
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: else is agreeing on the game, like one side, it

1376
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: feels right that like again you're in the lead, that

1377
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: you're almost like mandated to pick the other team. That's

1378
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 3: my opinion on it.

1379
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: I hear you opinion. And the reason why this team

1380
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: this game got picked where it sure felt like all fourteen,

1381
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: all four people are going to pick the Rockets was

1382
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: because the line is fairly small. Even though I say

1383
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: it's an interesting night, there aren't a lot of close

1384
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: lines other than Pacers Magic, and I didn't pick that one.

1385
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: What about Suns Kings? What's that line at?

1386
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome, it's so juicy because of Kevin Durant's injury,

1387
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: you'd think so it's seven and a half Kings are

1388
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: favored by seven and a half at home. WHOA. So

1389
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: that's why I stayed away from that. That was initially

1390
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: thinking that one for sure.

1391
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'll make the case for ESH being

1392
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 3: forced to take the Clippers. I don't think they've lost

1393
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 3: on the road.

1394
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: I thought they like blading into it though.

1395
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: Well they couldn't. I don't think they've lost on the road,

1396
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: you can fact check me on that. But they've been

1397
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: good away from the wall and the dome and the

1398
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 3: shitters and the bombers and all that.

1399
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: So they're a team that plays together. No, they've lost,

1400
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: oh three and one.

1401
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: That must have been a recent loss. I think they

1402
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: started three now. Okay, well we will see. Rockets got

1403
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 3: to win by five or more for some of us

1404
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: to get that victory. Otherwise Clips will cover and Ash

1405
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: we'll get another victory. That's it for us. Thanks to

1406
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 3: TK for jumping on. That was a lot of fun

1407
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: getting the scenes from the Chase Center and really entertaining

1408
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: career versus Clay game. Thanks to you for joining us

1409
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,440
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1410
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,160
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1413
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: you got a good question, send it in No Dunk's

1414
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 3: at the Athletic dot Com. Tweeted in at No Dunksinc.

1415
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll hit the beach tomorrow. Tomorrow's Thursday. Wow, that's great,

1416
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: that's flying. But we got Survivor on tonight too. Yeah,

1417
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 3: so we'll have no buzz tomorrow as well. So anyway,

1418
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 3: we'll see you then. Clipper Bros.

1419
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1420
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

1421
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember the yacht Rock Review.

1422
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: Great band playing December fourteenth in Atlanta to take the circle.

1423
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: It all the way back to Trey wearing the captain's hat.

1424
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: You wish he was wearing the captain's hat. And to

1425
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: talk about also the ticket prices or sorry you mentioned

1426
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 2: subscription prices for one game?

1427
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: Would you pay six to ninety nine to go see

1428
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: yacht Rock Review?

1429
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? How much do you think the yacht Rock Review

1430
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: is charging?

1431
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 3: That's a pricey ticket. It's probably thirty nine bucks forty bucks.

1432
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: Do you think that's pricey for a yacht rock review?

1433
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: A little bit? Yeah, you're right doing they're good. I

1434
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: haven't seen them in a long time.

1435
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: Well, you're not going because it costs forty bucks plus fees,

1436
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: I said, thirty nine nine. I know, Well it's more

1437
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: expensive than you want. Yeah, you've hit it bang on,

1438
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 2: but once you once you pay the fees, I mean

1439
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: it's like you know.

1440
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to save it. That any I

1441
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: embrace the name people