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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're wearing our best award

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Speaker 1: show outfit and ready for a momentous day in the

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Speaker 1: Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. Here I am with my friends

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodriege of The Athletic and Bridget Condon of the

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Speaker 1: last NFL Daily episode. Thank you, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: We just slept here like I just rolled up my

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Speaker 2: sleeping bag because that's what it feels like, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome, It's a fun day. Yeah, we're going to

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Speaker 1: hand out some mid season awards, some MVP, some Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year, maybe get creative, hand out some

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Speaker 1: of our own ones. But I think we got to address.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I think the elephant in the room where Bridget's just

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Speaker 1: like not happy with me, not giving me good vibes today,

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Speaker 1: Unlike I mean last night we left.

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Speaker 2: Friend says they'll do a favor for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I left last night feeling incredibly happy. Yeah, went to

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Speaker 2: bed like clouds. I was sleeping on clouds. Woke up

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Speaker 2: this morning. Greg's like, Hey, can't wait to have you

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Speaker 2: on the show. I'm like, Greg, oh my god, it's

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Speaker 2: been so great. I can't wait to be back on

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Speaker 2: the show, like you were so great. Then out of nowhere,

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Speaker 2: he's like, by the way, I can't do that thing

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Speaker 2: I said I could do for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good life lesson sometimes. And I've learned

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Speaker 1: this even just hosting this show, Like the people that

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Speaker 1: annoy you at like in terms of whether they're going

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Speaker 1: to come on the show or not, if that ever

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Speaker 1: would ever happen, you would never be even the slightest

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Speaker 1: annoyed by anyone saying no to any ask ever, because

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Speaker 1: you're asking for a favor and a ton Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: a weird time. But the people that say yes and

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Speaker 1: then at the last minute or like, actually I can't,

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Speaker 1: and it's almost like they were afraid to say no

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Speaker 1: to begin with, it's a good life lesson. Don't be

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Speaker 1: that person. I was that person, and I apologize. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna cover your shift, and then I found out,

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Speaker 1: you know what, my eyes were a little too big.

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Speaker 1: I'd made promises. I have my you know, my parents

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Speaker 1: who are from the airport that night. I can't have

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Speaker 1: my wife taking care of them. They can't find their

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Speaker 1: way back. It was a mistake. I should have just

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Speaker 1: said no to begin with. And then you wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: so mad at me. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll just move on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but if look, if you just want my octagenarian

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Speaker 2: Tell it to me, Tell it to Jim and John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I know you want to cover that game.

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Speaker 1: It's because you want to work so hard getting out

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Speaker 1: of one shift to work another. Hello, Jordan, how are you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just I'm enjoying this.

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Speaker 1: You guys know each other, used to work together, and.

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Speaker 4: We go way back, and I'm strategically placed in the

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Speaker 4: middle of this energy right now, which is great for

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Speaker 4: me personally.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to see you. It's nice to be sitting

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Speaker 2: This is so fun. I remember Jordan when we were

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Speaker 2: covering Panthers games. You know, like, as as a woman,

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Speaker 2: you have to go into the bathroom at the end

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Speaker 2: of the game to like re up your makeup because

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Speaker 2: you're about to go on TV. And so I'd always

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Speaker 2: be in there, like fourth quarter, listening to the radio,

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Speaker 2: re upping my makeup, and Jordan would come in sofully

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Speaker 2: and we got to chat, ever peacefully, but always nice

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Speaker 1: And now look look here you are in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: coworkers of some Sorry, if I knew you guys were friends,

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Speaker 1: I would have had you on the show much much earlier.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's hilarious. That's so funny. Okay, I feel like he's.

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Speaker 4: Attempted a gas lighting situation like six times already.

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Speaker 2: Feel like you want me to come over there.

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Speaker 1: It is. One of the things I love about Bridget

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Speaker 1: is that she's a true mental like me and something.

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Speaker 1: She's not happy with you.

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Speaker 2: She lets you know I feel Samuel and you're feeling

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Speaker 2: Jake Moody right now, that sounds Oh no, am I

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Speaker 2: table Pepper, Yeah, oh no, that.

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Speaker 1: Sounds about right. All right, let's do some awards. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go through them. Let's start with the awards because

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Speaker 1: we got a little bit of news. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: Sheen Walder and getting fired a little later, but it's

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Speaker 1: show with it. We're also talking a little Commanders Eagles,

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Speaker 1: one of the best Thursday night games of the entire season,

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Speaker 1: so we'll preview that later. But let's start with the

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Speaker 1: big one. Let's start with MVP, And We're not going

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go around and say who we would have

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Speaker 1: where we are. It's not projecting forward, it's not a prediction.

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Speaker 1: It's through ten weeks. Who is your MVP. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Bridget.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go Lamar Jackson. And I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of people probably want me to say Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Look he is still close making a run for it,

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Speaker 2: But right now, if I were to have to submit

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Speaker 2: my ballot, it would be Lamar Jackson. He could become

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Speaker 2: the sixth player to win back to back. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers did that twenty twenty twenty twenty one, top

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Speaker 2: not only did he have a stellar performance, he led

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Speaker 2: a big comeback win. That's what you need. When I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at like, what are the categories of being an MVP,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he embodies the award. He would be

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Speaker 4: my pick as well. I do think you bring up

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Speaker 4: a good point that this is going to be interesting,

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Speaker 4: and you know, people on shows such as This and

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Speaker 4: debating this.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Joe Burrow if he keeps playing really well though

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Speaker 4: he's on a bad team right now, I think so

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Speaker 4: that's not going to maybe have strength down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: But the Josh Allen thing, because Josh Allen is playing

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Speaker 4: my argument as well. He to me embodies this award.

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Speaker 4: You can't imagine this offense or this team looking the

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Speaker 4: way that he is, and he's won in so many

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Speaker 4: different ways. At the beginning of the season, the design

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Speaker 4: He's making things happen in miraculous ways. It's seen every week,

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Speaker 4: and I just I cannot imagine at this point of

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Speaker 1: I agree, he's my pick. One of the reasons I

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Speaker 1: like the MVP award is they require the voters to

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Speaker 1: put down three MVP candidates, so I would have the

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Speaker 1: would go Jayden Daniels too, but I wouldn't be held

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Speaker 1: of reminds me of when Jokic won the NBA MVP

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Speaker 1: and his team like they hadn't done as much successful.

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone just understood by the numbers he was

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Speaker 1: so much better this year than he was last year

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Speaker 1: when he was the MVP, And some years there aren't

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Speaker 1: great candidates for MVP. I think last year was kind

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Speaker 1: like sometimes a quarterback having a great, great season but

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Speaker 1: last year. That's why Jayden Daniels will be number two

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Speaker 1: the moments that he's had in big spots, him and

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Speaker 1: Allen's last game against Indianapolis was a little bit in

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Speaker 2: I think this weekend is big for Josh Allen if

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Speaker 2: he beats Patrick Mahomes and like ends this undefeated streak

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Speaker 2: of the Chiefs, because remember he's doing it without Stefan Digs.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have his best weapon like he had last year.

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Speaker 2: So I think as Jaden Daniels yes is taking a

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, and it'll be interesting to see how the

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Speaker 2: second half plays out. But he's closer than a lot

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Speaker 4: I think Jayden Daniels is having a special, special season,

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Speaker 4: and so don't get me wrong when I say that.

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Speaker 4: But kind of to my argument about Lamar being the

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Speaker 4: runaway MVP vote. In my opinion, with Josh Allen and

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Speaker 4: the beginning of the year he was their quarterback and

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Speaker 4: he was playing extremely efficient, efficiently, wasn't throwing interceptions?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a couple recently.

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Speaker 1: Right, He's still been very clean and played.

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Speaker 2: To me, I'm just say, you hate against Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I picked them to win the Super Bowl going into

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Speaker 1: the end here for today. Yeah, you're like, like, no

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Speaker 1: one was expecting this.

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Speaker 2: I was expecting it because I suggested Josh Allen, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, horrible suggestion.

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Speaker 1: He literally was my MVP pick on NFL dot Com

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Speaker 1: before the season, and so I think he has a

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Speaker 1: great chance. One thing I do want to recognize here

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Speaker 1: is people talk in absolutes about the MVP race. Almost

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Speaker 1: nothing that's happened so far matters that much. I think

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Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. But I've been through this enough that the

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Speaker 1: next the eight weeks are much more important than the

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Speaker 1: first ten weeks. So all these guys are in position.

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Speaker 1: But if for whatever reason, the Ravens lose a bunch

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Speaker 1: of those, like, there are many people who could pop up.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to throw out some names. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: of the way. When I look at ESPNQBR, just looking

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Speaker 1: for rushing value because I was curious. Lamar to me

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Speaker 1: is the most valuable passer in the league this year,

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Speaker 1: but I actually think he's been like, oh, just less

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Speaker 2: All right, how about best meme of the Year? Any

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Speaker 2: with Will Levis's actually good. Run her up, But no,

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Speaker 2: What are the memestats?

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Speaker 1: Just give it to us, all right, Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's literally looking like he's on the Truman Show.

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Speaker 1: I love when the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Remind us that. They're like, it's like breaking the fourth wall,

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Speaker 1: I love me a Mike Tomlin in a season where

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Speaker 4: Because he's making the right decisions. The decisions he has made,

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Speaker 2: Starting rust and He's like, that's why I get paid

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Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti, the Indiana coach who says I win games,

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Speaker 4: on Mike Tomlin's bad side. They asked him about Deontay Johnson,

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Speaker 4: and he just said, simply, he's not on a lot

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Speaker 1: That is amazing. All right, let's go to Offensive Player

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Speaker 1: let's just call this best non Quarterback award, which makes

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Speaker 2: It's Dereck Henry.

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Speaker 4: It is definitively runaway pun intent.

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Speaker 1: I have Derek Henry. Okay, I have one other option.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, saque oh yes an say ms no.

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Speaker 1: Elevator pitch that they are the defining team of this

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Speaker 4: So piney sewell, he's so good that so much of

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Speaker 2: He can move layer to layer to layer that fast.

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Speaker 4: This is like a hipster pick. Yes, ready for it?

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Speaker 2: Yet. I would like society to.

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Speaker 1: Be there, I know, but we are society, So I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be the reporter that's like, hey, coach,

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Speaker 1: go Defensive Player of the Year. Why don't you start Jordan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go to j Watt.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's the favorite right now, yes, obviously.

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Speaker 2: And you know he just he can take over games.

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Speaker 4: We've seen this year over year over year from him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a hugely significant at this time

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Speaker 4: I know he was hurt for a week and they've

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to throw out Pats.

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Speaker 2: All right, Look, I'm gonna pick someone that is on

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm gonna go Dexter.

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Speaker 2: He leads the team with eleven sacks. Yeah, no one

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Speaker 1: Don't have help. And I don't think this is that

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Speaker 4: He takes over and wins games when their offense is

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Speaker 4: oftentimes it is because TJ. Watt makes an absolutely it's crazy,

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Speaker 1: And he never comes off the field. That's been TJ.

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Speaker 2: I actually love that.

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Speaker 4: I love that pick. You know that I'm a huge

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Speaker 4: think that helps because more people are seeing it and

436
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 4: then saying, Okay, what's the sky all about? And then

437
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 4: they go and maybe they watch a little tape, maybe

438
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Speaker 4: they watch a little All twenty two on NFL plus

439
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 4: probably plus, and then they see because you can't here's

440
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 4: the thing.

441
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 2: You can't see this a lot of times.

442
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Speaker 4: What drives me nuts about like evaluating safety play and

443
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 4: quarterback plays, especially now you can't see the DBS on

444
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 4: the broadcast screen with certain angles you have to go

445
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 4: watch how he's moving around the field, how he navigates

446
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 4: and negotiates space against an entire offense.

447
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: It is so sick.

448
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: I love that. It is great. And I think the

449
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: guys like Chris Collins or who gave Brand some nice

450
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 1: pop on Sunday Night foot both being in those spots

451
00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: where a Greg Olsen or Tony Romo give Brand some

452
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 1: pop in a big spot, that that'll help some other

453
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: names that just aren't totally out of the mix. Chris

454
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: Jones could could certainly be in the mix by the

455
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 1: end of the year. Zavirad McKinney has had all those picks.

456
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: Fred Warner's been awesome. After that, it's like certain I

457
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: don't think is a crazy after It have to be

458
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 1: guys that that come on really really strong by the

459
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Speaker 1: Joseph maybe a Will Anderson, Kirby Joseph, I love that.

460
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Speaker 2: I mean Quinon Mitchell. I mean, I know he's a rookie,

461
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 2: but we could.

462
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Speaker 1: Player of the Year, Player of the year. I was going,

463
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Speaker 1: I was going to get give me one of you

464
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Speaker 1: give me your other one.

465
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I have one fun one old guy

466
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Speaker 2: of the Year.

467
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 4: Okay, this is reserved for like kickers, punters, long snappers.

468
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 4: In this case, I'm giving it to Kalais freaking Campbell

469
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 4: because he is still doing the dang thing. The dude

470
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 4: is built like a sequoia tree. I watched him in

471
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 4: person on Monday night, just completely take over the game

472
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 4: early on for the Rams. He has three sacks, but

473
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 4: he's getting the quarterback six hits in nine games, and

474
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: but im poor. He's batted five passes in nine games

475
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 4: and forced to fumble, and he's just he is unstoppable

476
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 4: in terms of trying to like block and.

477
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: Pin his arms down. You just can't.

478
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 4: And he is what thirty eight years old and still

479
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 4: still doing the dang thing.

480
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: He is my old Guy of the Year award.

481
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Speaker 1: I love the Old Guy of the Year award. I'm

482
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Speaker 1: gonna throw out a weird one too. This one is

483
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Speaker 1: just very informational. It's not it's not much of an award.

484
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Speaker 2: You information.

485
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Speaker 1: It's the dumbest things of the season to look back on,

486
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 1: like what what we what people were thinking at the time. Oh,

487
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: I just have nominees. Maybe you guys can decide who wins.

488
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Speaker 1: The decision makers behind the Will Levis male commercials so you.

489
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Speaker 3: Like.

490
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Speaker 1: It all seemed like it made sense. It was a

491
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: really good commercial, and yeah, great commercial. It is a

492
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Speaker 1: little risky, and that that came back to hunt him. Uh,

493
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Speaker 1: like the time when we were all excited about Matt

494
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: Eberflus's glow up, which was amazing, but now I kind

495
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: of look back as like it's almost it's dark to

496
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 1: think how sad that was. And then do you remember

497
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: that week where everyone was debating about like, well, you

498
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: know you could play Drake May at some point, but

499
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: not against the Texans defense, Like how could we?

500
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

501
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: No, like my word, is this man going to be

502
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: able to survive a football game against other football players?

503
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: And like, oh yeah, here he is out there balling

504
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: five weeks later.

505
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Speaker 4: I'd like people who watch the YouTube to go and

506
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 4: just specifically zero in on Greg's hand gestures through that end.

507
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Speaker 1: Please don't actually were you in theater theater? No, but

508
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: I was named best director of the Minutchog Regional High

509
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Speaker 1: School One act play competition my senior ye year of

510
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Speaker 1: high school or junior year.

511
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Speaker 2: Wowy.

512
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Speaker 1: It was called the Scheme of the Shiftless Drifter. I

513
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: don't think anyone would know it, but we just went

514
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: through a big pack of plays and it was really funny,

515
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: and we wanted to do a funny one as me

516
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: and a co director a lot of drama. We both

517
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: kind of fell for the lead actress. It was very

518
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: on brand.

519
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: Whoa was this before or after you started the band?

520
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: I was in the band with the same guy who

521
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: I did the co director thing with.

522
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: And you guys fought over the girl.

523
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say fought, but quietly we both fell for her.

524
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Speaker 1: And who won?

525
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Speaker 3: What do you think?

526
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: No, God, damn you totally her up. I did say, yep.

527
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: I was a confident young man in high school that

528
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Speaker 1: you know. I'm not going to say I peaked there

529
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: but the world and it never really got there until after.

530
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: I never understood that being short was what got in

531
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Speaker 1: your way. So in high school, if you've got a

532
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: little confidence like that, that goes far enough. Okay, it

533
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: goes far enough.

534
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: God, A lot of people got to bring out the yearbook.

535
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Speaker 1: Sure, subject, we are going to take a quick break.

536
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Speaker 1: This is the perfect time for it, because I to

537
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: recover from that blow to me yes back on the

538
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: mid season Awards show, and the total confidence with which

539
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: Bridget assumed the other director had won the battle over

540
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: the girl will haunt me and stick with me for

541
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Speaker 1: a long time, as will you won our you know,

542
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: producer hide them in the back, thinking I made up

543
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: that whole story. I'm not gonna be able to make

544
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: up stuff that good. That was all reality.

545
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: And were you like the cool kid?

546
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: No, no, I wasn't cool.

547
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 4: I was like the cool guy who was like ironically

548
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: into theater and had a band.

549
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: And no, I wasn't ironical.

550
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: You were that kid that like, once you got to

551
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: talk to it was like that guy's actually kind of funny.

552
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe the par in a bunch of like a

553
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: person who's among a duck bunch of different groups. Maybe

554
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: like the kid from Rushmore, but not that annoying if

555
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: you've ever seen Rushmore. I like, you know, Model Congress,

556
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: the plays, little sports, a little bit of.

557
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: You're an all around guy.

558
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: I love having bridget here. Let's not coach of the year.

559
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Who else is an all around guy?

560
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: Who Whoever's gonna take your shift? Yeah? Oh no, yeah,

561
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't know who that's gonna know.

562
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the coach of the Year, but

563
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: you brought up the shift again, and now I'm pissed.

564
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay, the coach of the air.

565
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going with dan Quinn. I know a

566
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: lot of you are probably gonna go with somebody else,

567
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: but I'm going with dan Quinn. Look, he turned a

568
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Speaker 2: four and thirteen team to a team that is hearing

569
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl bells right now. Jade and Daniels, the talk

570
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: of the town. We just talked. He might be even

571
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: in the MVP conversation. Okay, we're not even just talking

572
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: about Rookie of the Year. And that's thanks to dan Quinn.

573
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: He really did not have a lot to work with.

574
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: They were the last in the NFL and score total

575
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: and passing defense in twenty twenty three. Now get this,

576
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: they like are scoring the most points per game since

577
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety one season, which happens to be the

578
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: last time they were in the NFC Championship Game and

579
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Love it, well, I don't know, give

580
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: it to dan Quinn, man.

581
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Speaker 1: I think if the vote happened right now, he would

582
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: win and it might not be that close.

583
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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, I love the dan Quinn pick. I don't know.

584
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 4: Twice now you've said people would disagree with you. I

585
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: don't think anyone should be disagreeing. I thought you all

586
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: were gonna say, dang that one. So I do have

587
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: a point on that. But Dan Quinn, I think if

588
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: we're voting right now, absolutely would win, not just because

589
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: of what they've done this year, but what you mentioned

590
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: at bridget It's not just on the field, it's an

591
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 4: entire collective organizational shift, and he is the face of it.

592
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: And that requires a lot of synchronicity in working with

593
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: Adam Peters, which he has done very very well. They

594
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: make a really solid team so far. He also filled

595
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: out his coaching staff in a thoughtful, smart, an effective way,

596
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 4: and he's letting those coaches build their own little miniature

597
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: ecosystems within his larger umbrella. He also is a guy

598
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: that people want to play for. And you know, I

599
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: saw it mentioned through the week, people would like to

600
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: be traded there.

601
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: Now.

602
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something that never happens, that has never happened,

603
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: and you know, you know that it's us. They're building

604
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: something special. It is reminiscent of what Dan Campbell did

605
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 4: with Brad Holmes a couple of years ago, and I

606
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: will forever be annoyed that the award did not go

607
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: to him. At some point during the ascension and instead

608
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: to you know, Stefanski whatever, But like the good year,

609
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: Jan Campbell should have already and I am done with

610
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: not giving the flowers at the time that they're owed

611
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: and missing a window to award a Coach of the

612
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: Year candidate and then.

613
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: Well you're gonna do it now. He's the second favorite

614
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: in Vegas, Dan Campbell. I think he's a great option

615
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: because of what you said, I'm with you. This award

616
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: annoys me the most when you look back to see

617
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: who won it, because it's always the who pops up

618
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: on a really surprising team but like goes eleven and

619
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: six and like loses in the second round of the

620
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: playoffs and then maybe they don't maintain it instead of

621
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: guys who have built program. So I think based on that,

622
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: I would be totally for people voting for Dan Campbell

623
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: and say, like, this is a three year process to

624
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: kind of get to this point and he's so good

625
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: in game that you just give him the little bit

626
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: of an edge over Dan Quinn. But I'd be fine

627
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: either way because like, let's look at some of the

628
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: guys who have won it lately. Stefanski has won it

629
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: twice in the last four years, and I get it.

630
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: Each time it made sense. When it happened, it was

631
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and that surprising.

632
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: I didn't think it made more sense than Dan Campbell

633
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: the second time.

634
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: I agree, I would have voted for Dan Campbell. Last year,

635
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Brian Dable won it with the Giants. I mean they

636
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: went nine and seven that year, surprising ninety seven Raybel

637
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: that was fine. There's Matt n Aggie is in the

638
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: mix there, Bruce Arians, well, Bruce Arians, I'm okay with

639
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: Dick Jarron is always the one I bring up, Like

640
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: Dick Garron one Coach of the Year back in two

641
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: in one for this bear story.

642
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: What does this mean?

643
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: I just like guys that pop up. So I'm going

644
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: to throw out another name. And it was a top

645
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: my list, although those three, these three would have been

646
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: the top three that I really would vote for this

647
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: year because I want to be the change, and that'd

648
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: be Andy Reid.

649
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: I knew you were going to say that because he's such.

650
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: A great freaking coach argue for the every every year

651
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: for the last four or five years.

652
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: He should be, but some years more than others. Yeah,

653
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: I do think, especially I think you can look at

654
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: the way that they've figured out a way to win

655
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: these close games, and that in a way that Belichick,

656
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: have they.

657
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Figured out a way or they had really good lucky

658
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of both.

659
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: And he has Patrick Mahomes great, But I really think

660
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: if you look at the talent that they have offensively,

661
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: and I know they have Patrick Mahomes and they have

662
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey and they have no offensive I just think he's

663
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: doing a lot with a little and can always reinvent him.

664
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: It to you, But there are guys more deserving. In

665
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: my opinion, I think we should be talking about Mike Toblin.

666
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fourth.

667
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: I think we should be talking about him, not just

668
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: because he's always annually just a really solid coach, but

669
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: also because this year, maybe more so than other years,

670
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: he's kind of put himself out there on the island

671
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: a little bit more and making these risky decisions. He

672
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: perceived the outside as a risk and he's pushing in

673
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: a way where in the past, the meme or the

674
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: joke that we'd always make is like, oh, it's going

675
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: to be another you know, even season, they're not going

676
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: to have a losing record.

677
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: No, this is going beyond that. He's saying to me.

678
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: What he's saying is, I'm actually, you know, going to

679
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: basically put myself out there in this way that is risky.

680
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: That doesn't indicate a person who is satisfied with status

681
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: quo of the last couple of years and the decisions

682
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: that were head scratching on the outside have worked, and

683
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: I think so I think we should be talking about him. However,

684
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: I come back to it, I'm not going to miss

685
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: an opportunity like the voters did. I think, you know,

686
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: in the past, to give a head coach his flowers

687
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: for being a catalytic factor and pulling a franchise out

688
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: of the dark ages.

689
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's good. And uh, Jonathan Gannon if

690
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: they finished strong, could be you know, shit, some attention.

691
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh if they win, if they went twelve or

692
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: thirteen games, I mean, Jim Harbaugh, get some attention. But

693
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: there's so many good options. It's always it's always a

694
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: category that's tough to pick. Let's let's hear Bridget's second

695
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: award here. You want to throw out here?

696
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Okay, how about best miked up moment of Oh okay,

697
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: there probably were some better ones that were little too inappropriate. Okay,

698
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: but I'm going with and I believe we have it.

699
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: How about the reaction on the Eagles sideline when Saquon

700
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: Barkley did.

701
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: Look at this, spends past another leaps over a third.

702
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: What that's Jalen hurts.

703
00:31:53,440 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: Oh, the way that these grow professional athletes are reacting, right,

704
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: because some of the things that they see in practice

705
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: day in and day out. If you or I or

706
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: any normal person was watching, we'd be like, that's crazy.

707
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: These guys see things like this every day in practice,

708
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: and for them to still react the way they did

709
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: like that was that was awesome.

710
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Shout out to Patrick Claiblon. I'm glad you brought up

711
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: this up and that was a great choice, great production

712
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: you're bringing to the show.

713
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: Bridge, thank you. Trying to get back on my MVP of.

714
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: This show, Bridget Condon right here that you brought you

715
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: brought clips to the table. Sorry, Dann, I just keep

716
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: digging that hole.

717
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: You have to switch seats now you're in the middle.

718
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: That night, when we were talking about that play, Claybon

719
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: posited that he thinks Saquon was starting to make a

720
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: spin move and then felt the defender behind him, and

721
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: that's why he ended up jumping over the guy. And

722
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that anywhere else in any media talking

723
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: about it, And Saquon Barkley went on a podcast last

724
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: week and explained that was exactly what happened. He wanted

725
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: to hit him with at He hit him with one

726
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: move and he was hit the button essentially to hit

727
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: him with a second one. And then he said, I've

728
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: never done that in my life, but I just like

729
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: felt him coming up to clip me, and yeah, so

730
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: that's how it all happened. It wasn't like a total plan,

731
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: but that's that's what great artists do. They improvise great

732
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: great choice.

733
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: I covered Saquon Barkley's breakout season at Penn State, and

734
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: so I watched him really hurdle his first defense.

735
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Where haven't you been? I didn't know that.

736
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: That's crazy, So careful about how you asked that question,

737
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: but I remember him saying almost the same thing. Obviously,

738
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 4: he was facing forward at this time, but it was

739
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: never a planned thing. His body and his ability and

740
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: his instincts just took over in this like beautiful, magical

741
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: way that put him on the map forever. And similar

742
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: to this, several years later, quite literally, a full circle

743
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: has happened, and it's really cool to see more of that.

744
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: Please, Yeah, that's what I request. I want, I want

745
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: more of that, more of that offensive rookie of the year.

746
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: It's going to be Jade and Daniels, So I don't

747
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: think we need to spend much time, but if you

748
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: guys want to throw out any players just to give

749
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: some love to it's a really strong year, like in

750
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 1: most years. Brock Bowers would be a great candidate. Brian

751
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: Thomas Junior would be a great candidate. Vo Nicks would

752
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: be a good candidate. Gamers like Drake May if he

753
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: tracks it down the rest of the year like a

754
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: really really fun group, which makes sense, Like the first

755
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: half of the first round, we're all offensive players and

756
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: like they've banned out. It's pretty cool.

757
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been fun to watch the young guys start

758
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: to come into their own and really make some waves.

759
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 4: I like you said, there's no question in my mind

760
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: that this is Jaden and Daniels. But the future is

761
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: bright in this sport that we love.

762
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Did I say something.

763
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: That's interesting, No, I want something that's boring.

764
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I could potentially save this for the preview

765
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: that we're going to do at the end of the

766
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: show for it. Okay, this is going to be really

767
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: interesting to see what happens with Jayden Daniels and the

768
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: Commanders in the second half of season. My one negative,

769
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: which I want them to excel. My husband's a diehard

770
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: Commanders fan. Life is just better. Cliff Kingsbury has been

771
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: known for second half collapses dating back to his time

772
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: as a college coach, also with the Cardinals with Texas Tech.

773
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: Every year the Commanders have their worst, arguably worst offensive

774
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: performance against the Steelers on Sunday or Week ten. We're

775
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: in the second half. I want it to.

776
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Go well, but I think it's fair.

777
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: What if it tanks, then what are we talking about?

778
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: Sale Jayden Daniels, has he done enough through ten weeks

779
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: that he wins it regardless?

780
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Yes, this award, yes unless, Okay, I guess you never know,

781
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Like Drake may could have the best eight games. I'm

782
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: saying well, because it normally goes it normally goes to

783
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Brock Bowers or Brian Thomas or neighbors. Would

784
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: have to go so far above and beyond what they've

785
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: already done, which is fantastic to be in that mix.

786
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: The only thing I could see is if bo Nicks

787
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: went on a heater, he has an even better base,

788
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, to work with. But it have to be

789
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: it have to be absolutely insane. But some years like

790
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: there aren't really that many great options for this award

791
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: and like some of these other guys would be winning.

792
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: For instance, I thought about it and I was like,

793
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: is bo Nicks better than Sam Bradford was when Sam

794
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: Bradford won Offensive Rookie of the Year, And it's not

795
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: even close, Like bow Nicks is way better. Sam Bradford

796
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: was like the twenty fifth best starting quarterback in the

797
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: league and like six point one yards per attender whatever

798
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: it was. It was just like there wasn't really any

799
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: good choices this year and that year, and he was

800
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback on a halfway reascent team. He was okay,

801
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: Like it's just a sign of how guys are coming

802
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: into the league. Awesome defensive Rookie of the Year I

803
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: think at this point would probably be one sided. I

804
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: guess we'll go to rams beat writer for The Athletic,

805
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: Jordan rod Rieg for her pick.

806
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: Yes, shocking nobody.

807
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: I am picking Jared Verse for defensive Rookie of the Year.

808
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: I currently I don't think it's close. He leads all

809
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: rookies and pressures with forty five. His pressure rate is

810
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: twenty twenty point four percent per next Gen Stats, which

811
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: is double the league average and third highest among all

812
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: defenders in the NFL right now four and a half

813
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: sacks and watching him play, especially starting in October onward,

814
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: has been just you can see him continuing to assent.

815
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: I also have to tell you the energy, the dynamic

816
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: that he's brought to that defense. They weren't sure what

817
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: they were going to do for that sort of vocal

818
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: like Bully on the field minus Aaron Donald, minus a

819
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey and Jared versus that guy speaking of.

820
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: Miked ups like his miked up.

821
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: I encourage people to go back and watch that because

822
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: it was delightful. First of all, but he he is

823
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: at the point where in the spring he was talking

824
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: so much trash to Matthew Stafford, to you know, the receivers,

825
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: to his own teammates, to the alignment that Sean McVay

826
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: had to pull him aside and ota is no contact

827
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: and say, hey man, these are your teammates. You're not

828
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: going to find an enemy on the sideline. But here's

829
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: the thing about Jared Verse. He cares so much about that.

830
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 4: He cared so much that Sean McVay had to say

831
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: that to him and they had a conversation about that,

832
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: and and since then he has channeled everything toward his

833
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: opponent and behind the scenes has like really really lifted

834
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: people up, fellow teammates.

835
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: You could see it on the field.

836
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: It was cool.

837
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: There was a small, a very small moment that happened

838
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago when Braiden Fisk kind of

839
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: had his breakout game, his teammate at Florida State who's

840
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 4: kind of playing really well but kind of gone under

841
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: the radar because Jared Vers is playing so well. And

842
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: in the scrum on the road, Sean mcfay was handing

843
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: out game balls and Jared Verse, who's a rookie who

844
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: you don't talk to your coach, You know this confidently,

845
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: right if you're a rookie, he stopped Sean and he

846
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: pulled Braiden Fisk to the front of the scrum because

847
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: Braiden Fisk is very quiet and kind of it went

848
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 4: into the background and that moment and he pulled Braiden

849
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 4: Fisk to the front and he said, hey, he deserves

850
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: a game ball too. Sean McVay was already planning on

851
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 4: giving him a game ball, but it was really cool

852
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: to see how he made sure everybody was in that

853
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: moment together. So he is going to be a star,

854
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: but he's not going to take other people shine away

855
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: from them.

856
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: Reminds me a little just when I think energy, because

857
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: like you can see it on the field, he just

858
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: plays with so much energy. I was trying to think

859
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: like that, who does that remind me of a little

860
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: bit as a player like Max Crosby kind of came

861
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: to mind. They're a little different in how they win,

862
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: but just then that his energy, I think it's is

863
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: so obvious that you don't even need to be around

864
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: the team. Just seeing it on film reminds me a

865
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: little bit of that. Maybe a young Cam Jordan, not

866
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: to not to dismiss an older Cam Jordan, which has

867
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: been amazing, but when he came into the league, he

868
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: was such a bowling ball of energy, just like running

869
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: through dudes that it really, you know, it really changed

870
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: that Saint's defense. So those are two guys that kind

871
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: of came to mind.

872
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: He reminds me of both of those two players. And

873
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 4: also I've sort of been describing it this way as well,

874
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: but people who you know I've watched him play up

875
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 4: in person kind of get this vibe to Jalen Ramsey.

876
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: I no different position, but in terms of just that

877
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: the confidence and the I know, I know what you're

878
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: gonna do on this play, and I'm going to be

879
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: better and I'm just if you know, for lack of technique,

880
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: I'm just going to run through you that those types

881
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: of things, and that's what they needed. So and I think, yeah,

882
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 4: I think he's running away with it right now. There's

883
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 4: a couple other players, Chop Robinson's having a really good

884
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: season kind of ascending now. Quinjon mitchell I mentioned earlier as.

885
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: Play what does that look?

886
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: We talked about him last night?

887
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: Oh, yes we did.

888
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: My good family friend was his principal in high school.

889
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.

890
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: He's like a one of eight or something. Great guy.

891
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of him since high school.

892
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: He's come on, he's come on lately. The Eagles defensive backs,

893
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: we can talk about them in the preview, about Cooper

894
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: de Jene and Quinon Mitchell. I think Quinion Mitchell may

895
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: actually have a chance here Byron Murphy maybe could have

896
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: a good second half of the year for the Seahawks.

897
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: Evan Williams. I just wanted to shout out for the

898
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: Packers a good young safety, Kamari Lassiter or some good

899
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: players there. I'm just gonna make it. I don't even

900
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: know if this is an award, but I just wanted

901
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: to get this out here, and here's the spot to

902
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: do it. So I'm just gonna say this is an

903
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: award for the second half schedule, which teams are going

904
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: to be helped and hurt the most. In terms of

905
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: the second half schedule. We do a lot of schedule

906
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: talk when it comes out in May. We do more

907
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: of it when we're predicting the season in August. It's

908
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: pretty much useless in both of those spots, and yet

909
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: no one really talks about it at this point of

910
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: the season when it's really useful because we have a

911
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: ton of information and it completely changes the way your

912
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: season is going to be looked at the rest of

913
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: the way, so very quickly, teams that are going to

914
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: be helped the bucks easiest. According to Football Outsiders or

915
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: DVOA at FDN moving forward. They have an at Giants

916
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: at Panthers Raiders coming up, then at the Chargers it's

917
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: one hard game, and then three more cupcakes at Dallas

918
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Carolina insane. So that's six easy games on the Bucks schedule,

919
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: they have a chance to come back. The Texans and

920
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: the Colts both have pretty easy schedules moving forward. If

921
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: you kind of want to look at teams that might

922
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: play well down the street, I think the Texans are

923
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: a perfect blend where they have a bunch of cupcakes

924
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: at Dallas, Tennessee, at Jacksonville. They have another at Tennessee,

925
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: but then they also have some tests, so like they're

926
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: going to I think they're gonna get to the playoffs

927
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: because of their schedule, but then they also get in

928
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: at Kansas City and Baltimore in there to just kind

929
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: of like see where they're at. Miami, the Commandos, those

930
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: are easy. Team's going to be hurt by their schedule.

931
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: The Bears, they have the toughest schedule coming up. According

932
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: to FTN Fantasy. It's so over, don't even need to

933
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: talk about them. The forty nine Ers schedule is brutal.

934
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: Seattle this week is like their easiest game in a while,

935
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: and that's not that easy at Green Bay, at Buffalo,

936
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: then they get the Bears, the Rams at Miami Detroit

937
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: in Arizona, just like a gauntlet there is it's going

938
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: to be tricky, and Arizona is one of the easier

939
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: schedules certainly in that division moving forward. Pittsburgh has a

940
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: very tough schedule moving forward. Seattle is another one that

941
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: stands out as tough schedules. I don't want to go

942
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: through like every single one, but that's a lot kind

943
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: of do I kind of do, but we don't have

944
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: all the time in the words, do you have any

945
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: like hanging awards out there?

946
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: I have a few of them.

947
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: I have a quarterback I Can't Quit award, Okay to

948
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield. Yeah, I have the Don't Stop Believing Award

949
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: going to the Arizona Cardinals who looked a.

950
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: Little wobbly and part of I'm on board, but.

951
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 4: Are ascending top ten offense right now in a lot

952
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 4: of advanced statistical categories, and then also their defense is

953
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: kind of coming along a little bits.

954
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: While are we ready to admit that Steve Weiss was

955
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: right and that maybe Baker Mayfield should have been on

956
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: QB Island over Matthew Stafford.

957
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, that's a big moment, but that's for another show.

958
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: You know, we got time.

959
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: Same here now. I would say that based on the

960
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: last week, although I wanted Kirk Cousins over Matthew Stafford,

961
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: and I still think that was right.

962
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 2: I picked Baker. You have a lot of hate about

963
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. We were talking about.

964
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of hate and it's okay to

965
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: admit like that too. She's got more awards.

966
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: And my last award, thank you for the platform.

967
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: Expectations were already low, but you sank them even lower.

968
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: Award goes to.

969
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: The Jets.

970
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: That's good.

971
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: That would be the candidate Panthers. This is officiating all season,

972
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 4: all season, just open category.

973
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just got an update in my YEP, thank you, Roger.

974
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: They're asking the same guy who took my family out

975
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: of the studio when when I brought them in. They

976
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: they want to see you. Yeah, they're gonna escort you.

977
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: My kids. My kids have actually been in a room.

978
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to see them for for weeks

979
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: since that. But yes, you're you're gone.

980
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: To Oh I have to be bleeped out yeah, you're

981
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: just gone.

982
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: No, it is absolutely Okay, it's been a bad officiating year.

983
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's one of those things that I

984
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: agree it has been, and it has been in big spots.

985
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: But I also know everyone's been saying that every year

986
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: for as long as I've ever watched the NFL. So

987
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what. You know what I mean, you

988
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: love to hate it. It's human nature. It's like every

989
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: generation thinks the next generation is lazy or has problems

990
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: with them. But that's the most consistent thing throughout human history.

991
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: Like people now like they're not developing quarterbacks like they

992
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: used to. Since when when was the magical time when

993
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: there were no quarterback bus? What? So that's all I

994
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: that's my only issue with the officiating complaints.

995
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so teams that would fit in that category?

996
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: What teams?

997
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying, what is your team that would fit that

998
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: category for low? But you sank them even lower? Award?

999
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: Go?

1000
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jets were perfect, Jets are good.

1001
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Panthers, although the Jets expectations were high but depends on.

1002
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you're right, I thought they were like

1003
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: or nine. I did not have them in the playoffs.

1004
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I thought they'd be average, and they are way worse

1005
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: than that. Titans, Like Titans are even worse than I

1006
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: would have thought.

1007
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good pick.

1008
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: Okay, the Giants maybe, although everyone kind of thought the

1009
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: Giants would be this way.

1010
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: The Cowboys expectations, expectations, and I wish you would have

1011
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 4: stood on the tiny table and just like doubled down

1012
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: and tripled down on the tiny table. Take there, Greg,

1013
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: because the Cowboys implomed this like you thought they would.

1014
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: Yes, and our collective.

1015
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 4: Expectations were already low, and they sank them, actually legitimately

1016
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: even lower than we could have expected. The sun to

1017
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: stop talking about the Cowboys right now.

1018
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: No more Cowboys suck. All right. The final award I'm

1019
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: giving out here, it's just an unexpected Delight award. A

1020
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: lot of nominees. I'm going to introduce the nominees, and

1021
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: finally to me, it's the you were expected you know,

1022
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: high draft picked Zach Bond potential all pro. What an

1023
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: unexpected delight, Okay, Jaden, And just like that's that. We've

1024
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: talked enough about you, Liam Liam Cohen being just a

1025
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: badass play caller in the Bucks offense, being really fun.

1026
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: That was that was unexpected, Kurko chains being better coming

1027
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: off in Achilles and less time than Aaron Rodgers being

1028
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: coming off the Achilles and to me being maybe the

1029
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: most fascinating Kirk We've ever had. That he's playing inside

1030
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: a box, like the same box he didn't leave during

1031
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: COVID when he was going to do the interviews, Like

1032
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: he's playing inside of it and it's working. Doug Peterson's

1033
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: halftime speeches or halftime interviews with Steve Weisch back to

1034
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: back weeks. Maybe only I remember this, but he was

1035
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: so despondent. He looked like he wanted to fire the

1036
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: rest of his team the first half time speech in London,

1037
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: and then the next week he was so happy after

1038
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: a great second quarter. I really enjoyed that. Jim Harbaugh

1039
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: and his love of Justin Herbert. Let's actually watch and

1040
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: listen to just a little clip of Jim Harbaugh being

1041
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: so mad that he let his quarterback down. Damn it,

1042
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: damn that was harva. Oh there he is making coming

1043
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: out coming.

1044
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: Oh it's like Michael Scott in the basketball episode.

1045
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: But there's twenty more seconds in that clip, and I'm

1046
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: glad you cut it where it was hite them there,

1047
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: but there's twenty more seconds of him just going, Oh, Herbert,

1048
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: he's thrown it. He's throwing it well today, Oh you're

1049
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: throwing it good. You're throwing it good. But no, the

1050
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: winner of the Unexpected Delight Award is the burgeoning friendship

1051
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: of me Frigid Condon. Play play the music stop. I

1052
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: just wouldn't have thought. You know what do I We

1053
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: don't have any more awards music?

1054
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: Do I get a favor? Is that where you're gonna.

1055
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: Get a favorite? Down the rot? Right's it going to

1056
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: be whatever you want except for covering your Monday night

1057
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: football shift on November twenty fifth.

1058
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: That's horrible, that's Look.

1059
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I could be the god parents your child

1060
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: like something like that.

1061
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: No YouTube watch her face?

1062
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we're gonna take one more break.

1063
00:48:50,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: Jesus, you're worse than my paras height.

1064
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, feeling a small buzzer of guilt,

1065
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: not about you, Bridget. That was a mistake and I

1066
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: apologize and what can you do? You own up to it.

1067
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: I feel bad that I forgot. We never did Assistant

1068
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year, which was your It's going to

1069
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: be your show piece here with Jordan, and we're still

1070
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: not going to do assistant coaches. We're gonna do news.

1071
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: The Bears fired Shane Waldron and passing game coordinator Thomas

1072
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: Brown is expected to take over. We've hit on the

1073
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Bears quite a bit. We talked about this possibility Bridget

1074
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: on Monday night. Jordan, you know Thomas Brown, I'm guessing

1075
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: because he was with the Rams, what do you think

1076
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: he'll do?

1077
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I covered him when he was in LA, and

1078
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate he was in the situation with Carolina last

1079
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 4: year as well. Obviously, the team makeup and and sort

1080
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: of the dysfunction that was going on at that time

1081
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: is different than what's happening in Chicago right now. You

1082
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 4: kind of got the feeling that it's calling plays with like,

1083
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: you know, one hand tied behind his back in Carolina,

1084
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: and this year, I don't know how it's gonna go.

1085
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: I know he has the experience, he's extremely well regarded,

1086
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: whether it's in that building or around the league. And

1087
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: you know, my sense is that he's going to be

1088
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: trying to put together a resume because nobody knows what's

1089
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 4: going on after this season, and the Bears just need

1090
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: some good energy some good vibes. What I think is

1091
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 4: the biggest, the biggest potential weight on the entire building

1092
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: right now is this is quite clearly a group of

1093
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: players and scheme and all of that that needs to

1094
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 4: continue to develop, move forward, develop rapport with each other,

1095
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: be cohesive. When the head coach is in job saving mode,

1096
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 4: that's not necessarily going to happen because the priority becomes,

1097
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: whether subconscious or conscious, saving the job. And so you

1098
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: don't things fall through the cracks, you don't get a

1099
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 4: lot of that time that you need to, or maybe

1100
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: your energy is not fully spent on actually writing the

1101
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: small details and writing the small things that are that

1102
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 4: are going wrong on the field.

1103
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are reports that some players essentially requested to

1104
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: have Shane Waldron fired, and a few of them also said, hey,

1105
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: can we get Tyson Pagent back at quarterback?

1106
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's not go that far, but that's a

1107
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: little rough.

1108
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: I am as worried about the receivers and their cohesion

1109
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams, let's say, and their general attention to

1110
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: detail as anything with this offense. So that's something that

1111
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: Thomas Brown needs to needs to work on. Let's talk

1112
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott undergoing season ending hamstring surgery. You wanted to

1113
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: stop talking about the Cowboys. I think that this injury

1114
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: it's official now now we know he's going we're not

1115
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: going to stop talking about it. Well, they're in some

1116
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: primetime spot.

1117
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: People aren't going to start. I just I don't understand.

1118
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I do understand why the Cowboys don't get

1119
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: the same uh like ambivalence. I'm looking this when there

1120
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: are any other game. But whatever, I get it America's team.

1121
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: Because because then you know, because the number, because they

1122
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: pull in numbers, and they will on Thanksgiving afternoon, because

1123
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: there's no other options other than to watch. It's probably

1124
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: by then two weeks from now, I'm gonna forecast Trey

1125
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: Lance versus Drew Locke. If you give me Tommy cutlets Thanksgiving.

1126
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: Ill his mom fire up a dish pregame.

1127
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: You're right, we're getting we're getting ahead of ourselves. But

1128
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: I think, as America, if you want to play Drew

1129
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: Locke the rest of the season, give some entertainment, I

1130
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: think it would make total sense. The Giants, you've added

1131
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: nothing to our lives in all those primetime games that

1132
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: you stuck us with the last five years. Give US

1133
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: Cutlets on Thanksgiving Only, and they even announce it ahead

1134
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: of time. Thanksgiving Only one time appearance Tommy DeVito, Trey Land.

1135
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: One Night Show, Tommy Cutlers.

1136
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: Let's get sloppy. Let's talk about two teams that are

1137
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: relevant play yes in that division. Yes, those were good times.

1138
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think we were gonna win. I mean, but

1139
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: we won.

1140
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: Are you thinking about that girl now?

1141
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: No, we've kept in touch, you know. Oh wow a

1142
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: little bit.

1143
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: Oh is she a listener of the NFL Daily?

1144
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: Definitely?

1145
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: Not?

1146
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: Definitely not.

1147
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: What's her name?

1148
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying her name now, Hey.

1149
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: If you're listening, he's still thinking. Just kidding, let's disrespectful

1150
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: to your wife. Okay, let's talk about Thursday night.

1151
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: Uh, not for that. It's time to get to TNF

1152
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: Preview presented by Amazon Prime Video.

1153
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: I got something good for you. Yeah, one hundred and

1154
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: eighty you know, I like numbers one hundred and eightieth

1155
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: regular season game in series history between the Commanders and

1156
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: Eagles and get this first time ever on a Thursday night.

1157
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

1158
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: Interesting?

1159
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: Huh that is surprising. Maybe it's because Washington hasn't been

1160
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: relevant enough of that. Although TNF also wasn't always like

1161
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: a show piece for the best team, so it's it's

1162
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: a little random. A stat between these two teams that

1163
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: really shocked me was this is the first time they've

1164
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: played each other where both teams are at least one

1165
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: game over five hundred since two thousand.

1166
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: Time they're playing four games over five hundreds since ninety six.

1167
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: Well that, I mean mine was better because it's like

1168
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: one game was more you know, surprising, and there's only

1169
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: four year difference there.

1170
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: So Eagles have won the past five of six. The

1171
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: only the Commander's one was in primetime. Though I am

1172
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: really numbers boy. I'm not a numbers boy, Okay, but

1173
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 2: I all right, Commanders have the highest scoring offense since

1174
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: ninety one, last time they were in an NFC championship

1175
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 2: game and Super Bowl. They also have the longest active

1176
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: championship game drought.

1177
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so I do have some numbers that top all

1178
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: year numbers. Since the Eagles, by their defense is number

1179
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: one in the NFL and success rate and this is

1180
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: since Week six, which is a five week sample, it's

1181
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: pretty big. Number one in the NFL and EPA per

1182
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: play and number one in the NFL and explosive play

1183
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: rate allowed by far. And I used that last stat

1184
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: to point out that, like Vic Fangio's scheme is vic fangoine,

1185
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: Like that's not a verb, but I want it to

1186
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: be a verb. Everything that he wants to do, putting

1187
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: a cover over the top of a defense, I think,

1188
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: matching their zones where they're passing off receivers in it's

1189
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: not like a sexy thing to talk about, but the

1190
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: communication between the cornerbacks and the safeties where there's no

1191
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: breakdowns and there's just not a lot of really open receivers. Yes,

1192
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: they've played a lot of bad teams in that stretch

1193
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: and that's a huge part of those numbers. But that

1194
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: Bengals game was kind of the Vic Fangio blueprint of

1195
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: what to do With's great offenses. The Bengals actually moved

1196
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: the ball really effectively the first couple drives, but he

1197
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: made him work for it, like these seven to eight

1198
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: play drives and he's getting supported by an explosive offense.

1199
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: That's what the Eagles have. And then suddenly in the

1200
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: second half, like the Bengals needed those points. You got

1201
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: a couple turnovers, you made a couple of plays, you

1202
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: were on your p's and q's and that's the best

1203
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: any defense has played against the Bengals in a while.

1204
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: And so everything is coming together. And it all happened

1205
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: when they put that white boy in at slot corner

1206
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: in safety Cooper Degene. We thought he was gonna be

1207
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: the greatest white corner back in the last thirty years.

1208
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: And he might be, but he's actually doing the thing

1209
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: that everyone just like reflexively did in draft preper They're like, oh,

1210
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: you're saying he has to play inside, Like that's actually

1211
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: like kind of racist, because he is explosive enough that

1212
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: he should be an outside corner as a pro, Like

1213
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: this is not your normal like white guy, but he

1214
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: is playing in the slot and he's freaking amazing, Like

1215
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: he has a chance to win Defensive Rookie of the Year.

1216
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: So I think him getting back there with Mitchell and

1217
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: obviously Darius Slay's playing well, Like that's really what's changed

1218
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: in this defense.

1219
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: He plays the star position. That was a lot.

1220
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a lot.

1221
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: I feel like my hair is like blown backward, and

1222
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 4: I don't know what to say.

1223
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: He plays the star role.

1224
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: It's a hybrid safety corner role in this coaching defensive family,

1225
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 4: right and what that does, which some people predicted he

1226
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: would be doing at the beginning of the year.

1227
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: Some people, I don't.

1228
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: Some people he's making a difference there because that role

1229
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: operates to a be able to pass off different coverages.

1230
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: But it doesn't always it doesn't always have to be

1231
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: dictated by what the rest of the coverage rules are

1232
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: around in that sort of shell or that match down,

1233
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: that match zone like closing umbrella that they play and

1234
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 4: really it it creates like so he could play traditional

1235
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 4: slot corner right, or he can create he can be

1236
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 4: a creative player, like with mathematical advantages based on where

1237
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: he's moving and sort of the floating between that corner

1238
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 4: and safety position and disguising other coverages when you know

1239
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: teams did this with certain other players in this coaching family.

1240
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: The goal is to either a make him an unavoidable player,

1241
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 4: so all the coverages are dictating toward you having to go,

1242
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 4: and his matchup dictates you having to go his direction

1243
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 4: where he is in place to make a play on

1244
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: the ball, or forcing almost a counter leverage from the

1245
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 4: offense because they see where he is and they think

1246
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 4: they can predict kind of what his job is on

1247
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: that play and then so in that sense, vic Fangio

1248
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: is then dictating other air, dictating to the offense other

1249
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: areas of the field that they must put the ball toward.

1250
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 4: So I think it's a real credit to what we

1251
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: know about this defense, which is that it grows over time,

1252
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 4: it develops over time. But I also think it's a

1253
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 4: real credit And I've said their names a couple of times,

1254
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 4: but those assistant coaches that Vic Fangio specifically brought with

1255
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: him to this staff, Christian Parker, who had worked with

1256
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 4: him before, and Joe Casper. They coach corners and they

1257
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 4: coach safeties, and those dudes, including the young rookies and

1258
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: Quinjon Mitchell certainly is having an outstanding season, are ready

1259
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: to go and they're ready to play, and they're smart

1260
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: and they know playing a match.

1261
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: Though, is really hard.

1262
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 4: You have to know all the opponent tendencies and how

1263
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 4: different concepts layer out, and how space is dispersed on

1264
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 4: the field. The way they're playing this right now, they

1265
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: really understand how to negotiate that space and can strict

1266
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: down around what offenses are trying to do and.

1267
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: Know how to coach these guys up. Because Quinna and

1268
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: Mitchell wasn't in that pure he's going to be the

1269
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: outside corner playing every snap role right away. He was

1270
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: actually on the inside and was kind of working his

1271
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: way up, and Degene wasn't even starting the first month

1272
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: of the season, and you can say, well, maybe you

1273
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: should have been in there earlier now, however, right, but

1274
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: even when he was back, he was pretty much ready

1275
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: to go for a number of weeks and they weren't

1276
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: playing him yet and they were getting nantsy, but their

1277
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: development plan for him was perfect. And it's not a

1278
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: surprise people there were really excited. You said, you thought

1279
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: like they're coming off their toughest game of the year, Commander.

1280
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: Not toughest worst offensive performance. I hear that, and you're right,

1281
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: But yet it was a good greg period and a

1282
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: sentence full stop.

1283
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: I would just say it was against a really good defense,

1284
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: and the still got twenty seven points and had a

1285
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: couple of really nice drives. So that's what happens when

1286
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: you play good defense. And this is another good one.

1287
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: So I'm really curious to see what they look like

1288
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: in this one.

1289
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and the Jayden Daniels in that

1290
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: offense is turning the ball over less at like such

1291
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: a historic rate. They've only had one. I don't think

1292
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: they've had a turnover on offense in five games. Yes,

1293
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: they turned it over on a muff pump on Sunday,

1294
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: but that was special teams. This is must watch television

1295
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: on Thursday night NFC East Old School Rival Battle, like

1296
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: this is what you want. I wish I was in

1297
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: Philly for this game because the commander's DC area is

1298
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: different this time around, because they're so excited like people

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Speaker 2: when they when those teams are doing well, you can't

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Speaker 2: get people to stop talking. And it is fun. And

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Speaker 2: this is this potentially could have so much weight for

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Speaker 2: playoff implications, and I just I can't wait for Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you want to go cover that game, Mike,

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: I could cover your news shift something like that.

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Speaker 4: Now it's gonna be great quarterback play on both sides.

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: I mean we mentioned at the top of Yalen Hurt.

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Speaker 2: Everybody listening if you'd rather me host the show and

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Speaker 2: Greg just, I don't know, take a hike, let me

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Speaker 2: know whoa I'm available.

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Speaker 1: It's like a coup attempts live. I love it, but

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Speaker 1: don't listen there please.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the back of my skull is getting

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 4: burned off and the front of my skull is getting

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Speaker 4: burned off.

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Speaker 1: Wait, where are going to say about quarterback play? Sorry, Jayleen,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's good. It's good. Both of them

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Speaker 1: are good.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's playing really really efficient football. He's playing especially

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01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 4: he's making smarter throws than earlier this season. Earlier in

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 4: the year he attempted he through the first chunk of

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01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 4: the season, he attempted twelve passes with less than a

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01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 4: twenty five percent completion probability per next Gen. You only

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Speaker 4: completed one of those passes. If you watch the tape

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Speaker 4: of his last couple of games. Not only is he

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01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 4: since the the I think it was Week seven versus

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Speaker 4: the Giants, he has completed seventy percent or more of

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01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: his passes, but he's making really really smart decisions and

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01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 4: he's creating, which he is so gifted at when given

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Speaker 4: the opportunity. Both against Dallas came when he was working

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01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 4: out a structure throwing on the move. That throw to

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01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: Johnny Wilson, former Arizona State Sun Devil, who transferred.

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Speaker 2: Like they all have, he worked out a structure too, not.

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01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 4: A bit or for Sun Devil, and now that we're

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Speaker 4: talking about Jade and Daniels here, Okay, and he really

1335
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 4: escaped the pressure really really nicely, and then he put

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01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 4: the ball in just the perfect spot for John Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I've struggled with how to view Jalen Hurts' season, but

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Speaker 1: I've kind of come to the point that they are

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: big play merchants. He makes enough fantastic plays that it

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: makes up for them being a little like up and

1341
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: down drive to drive. That Cowboys game was a perfect example,

1342
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: like they put up a ton of points, they had

1343
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: big plays, but you watched the first half of that game.

1344
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: He held the ball and had five sacks, and he's

1345
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: held the ball a lot, but he's ultimately not made

1346
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: many mistakes. They are a boom or bust offense that

1347
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: can really run the ball. We're going to see if

1348
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: their renaissance on defense is real against this Commander's offense,

1349
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: and their pass rushers haven't gotten enough credit. Like the

1350
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter second year leap everyone was hoping for, It's happening,

1351
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: even if the stats aren't all there. Nolan Smith has

1352
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: had a second year leap two and I just think

1353
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: they're they're more talented. I think that Jaden Daniels offensive

1354
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: line held up pretty well against Pittsburgh last week. It'll

1355
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: be a big test. I'm leaning Eagles in this game.

1356
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: You were skeptically looking at me the.

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01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: Show within the show. Actually, every time I look to

1358
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 4: my left. My show within the show is every time

1359
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 4: I look to my left and I see it's just

1360
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: my favorite bridge.

1361
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: It's okay.

1362
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: Specifically, when Greg talks, it's like I'm taking it all in.

1363
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: It's all right.

1364
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm a great listener. It's art. Maybe that's not good

1365
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: for the podcast. I'm not talking enough, but look, I'm

1366
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: a great listener. I'm not gonna pick because that's not

1367
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Speaker 2: what I do as a reporter. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, real deal.

1369
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: Jordan, who are you going with? I'm gonna pick the Commanders?

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Speaker 1: Okay, good? I like that. It is.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting.

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Speaker 4: I could I could see this happening either way for

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 4: either team.

1374
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: I hope it's a close last sight and I loved it.

1375
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 4: They're at like the apex of their powers right now, respectively.

1376
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 4: I know that was a tough loss against the Steelers.

1377
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 4: I think the Steelers really took away what Jayden likes

1378
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: to do on the perimeter very very well. Unlike tookboys

1379
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: games can yeah, and I think this is gonna be it.

1380
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 4: Jordan Mailatta will likely be back from injury. A couple

1381
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: of sneaky injuries to watch. On either side. Dallas Goddard

1382
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 4: is not practicing, Darius Slay is not practicing, DeVante Smith

1383
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 4: is not practicing. Technically, practices are like a mock up

1384
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 4: right now.

1385
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: Because they all finished last week's games.

1386
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: Avante Smith did not, so that's that's a hamstring too,

1387
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 4: So that's the one that I.

1388
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: Maybe look at the most.

1389
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 4: And then on the other side, Marshall Latimore is still

1390
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 4: not practicing, but I could actually see him pushing to

1391
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 4: come back this this Thursday. There's a picture of him

1392
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 4: and Dan Quinn like game planning walking across the field,

1393
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 4: which I really appreciated seeing.

1394
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought him up before we go

1395
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: because this game. In games like this, but I think

1396
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: this game and then the next Eagles game, and I

1397
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: would maybe pick the Commanders if it was in Washington.

1398
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: I think that's how close it is. But I'm going

1399
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: to take the home team. This is why they got

1400
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore. That when you're matching up against DeVonta Smith

1401
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: and AJ Brown. AJ Brown specifically, like they just didn't

1402
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: have someone that could do that. Saint Justa's played pretty well.

1403
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: Sandra Still is a rookie undersized who we thought would

1404
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: have to play inside, who's played pretty well on the outside.

1405
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: But those are mismatches, and if you get the real

1406
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: deal with Lattimore against AJ Brown, that changes how the

1407
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: entire rest of the coverage will go. Your boy, Frankie

1408
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,479
Speaker 1: Luvu has been active, Dante Fowlers played pretty well lately.

1409
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: Johnny Newton like their defense has gotten better. But I

1410
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: think that it's players, not plays, and I think the

1411
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: Eagles just got a lot of players. That was this

1412
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Speaker 1: week's TENF preview, presented by Prime Video. Be sure to

1413
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: watch the Washington Commanders take on the Philadelphia Eagles this

1414
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: Thursday on Prime Video. What a performance here. You want

1415
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: to watch the game by the three of us? I

1416
01:05:59,120 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: would love to.

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01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, we have plans.

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01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh uh for Bridget Condon and Jordan No, no, this

1419
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: was fun.

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01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 2: You know he called me Jordan last night on the

1421
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: episode when we were saying by he was like late

1422
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: for really, Jordan Rodrigue, I said, that is a huge compliment, But.

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: It's now now. It was like a bit for a while,

1424
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: but now I think it's actually just becoming uncomfortable for everyone.

1425
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: You want to go upstairs, HR.

1426
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: Hit the music. We've been waiting for it.

1427
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: This middle seed is such a danger zone.

1428
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: I love it. Get comfortable and being uncomfortable, you know,

1429
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: That's that's what I like. We'll try to be more comfortable.

1430
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: On the previous show, Patrick Clayband and Steve Weisch. Look

1431
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: when uh, when Bridget Conon is like giving me a

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 1: sixth round knockout, you know football is back.