Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen What, and today we have entrepreneur
Speaker 1: and inventor, Miss Chantelle Jackson's in the building, also known
Speaker 1: as Miss Jackson. That's how we always we call you,
Speaker 1: Miss Jackson, and then we go Sean tell Jackson, Yes,
Speaker 1: Miss jack smithy nasty? Yes, yeah, yeah, either way, either way,
Speaker 1: you know what the Miss Jackson is. Of course, Jackson
Speaker 1: is my last name. But ever since Outcasts came out
Speaker 1: with that song, I think I was like fourteen fifteen,
Speaker 1: and in school even the teachers were in on it,
Speaker 1: like it was roll called during like the announcements or
Speaker 1: um throughout the day, and when my name was called,
Speaker 1: everybody would go, I'm just like, it's just like a
Speaker 1: part of I don't know who I am. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's always been hilarious to me, but I am Miss Jackson.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good. It's like kind of started you
Speaker 1: with a brand before you. I think it did. I
Speaker 1: think it did. It was just I can't help that
Speaker 1: is my last name, but it just came with something
Speaker 1: and it just pivoted me into yes Jackson, Miss Jackson. Well,
Speaker 1: what do you have us eating, Miss Jackson. So I
Speaker 1: have some good old fashion I guess you would say
Speaker 1: some Country Bama pickled eggs. Um. And it's pretty much
Speaker 1: nothing but vinegar, some spices, some red die and some eggs.
Speaker 1: I've never ever seen this. So when you mentioned pickled eggs,
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you had, like a sandwich bag. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what. I didn't know what. She said,
Speaker 1: pickled eggs. I said what, Yeah, so it already comes
Speaker 1: like this. And when I was little, Um, we used
Speaker 1: to go to the corner store or the candy ladies house. Um,
Speaker 1: if we lived in apartments at the time and asked
Speaker 1: for a pickle egg and maybe at the time it
Speaker 1: was maybe twenty cents or a quarter. And where are
Speaker 1: you from Miami? Oh, you're from Miami, they were, they
Speaker 1: were selling pickled eggs in Miami. Yeah, okay, So where
Speaker 1: do you get these out here? You can't get these
Speaker 1: out here. I ordered these online to be here. So
Speaker 1: you're a real pickled eggs man. I am. I can't
Speaker 1: even say the last time you ate this was you
Speaker 1: was broke. You just attached to the pickled eggs. I'm
Speaker 1: attached at the hip to the pickled eggs. Honestly, it
Speaker 1: would even get worse than this back home. But now
Speaker 1: I'm a vegetarian, so I'm still safe with the egg
Speaker 1: the pickled eggs. Um. But I used to eat the
Speaker 1: hot sausage with the pork or the pickle pig feed like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was bad. Yeah, okay, well let's try these. Can
Speaker 1: we try these? Are we clear before we? Uh? Yeah? Okay, good,
Speaker 1: Let's try some pickled eggs. Now, I've never had pickled
Speaker 1: eggs before. Guys, So if my face does all these
Speaker 1: like expressions, don't mind me because like an expression girl
Speaker 1: like I have a million wrinkles dedicated to me before
Speaker 1: I hit for it. I reco my face too much.
Speaker 1: But let's try these, and thank you for sharing this.
Speaker 1: Like delicate? Was it? Like I said, this is like
Speaker 1: a Southern delicacy? Yeah? Right, it is. To see that's
Speaker 1: the word I was I was looking for because we
Speaker 1: couldn't even get these. She came with these. That's how
Speaker 1: you know what's real? She she had another dishes. She said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I haven't never seen this in California ever.
Speaker 1: And how often do you order these? Um? You know what?
Speaker 1: A lot of the time I always have to wait
Speaker 1: till I go home to Miami to get them. So
Speaker 1: this past week I was there for my birthday and
Speaker 1: as soon as I touched down off the plane, UM,
Speaker 1: and I went to the gas station, they had pickled eggs.
Speaker 1: So I was I was getting pickledgg This is interesting.
Speaker 1: So the pickled eggs are red for all your listeners,
Speaker 1: It's like in this jar of juice. Um, So how
Speaker 1: do you get it out? You use a fork? We
Speaker 1: got a fork. So do you if you don't have
Speaker 1: pickled eggs? Do you just naturally like eggs or is
Speaker 1: it just the whole flavor package? I do. I do
Speaker 1: naturally like eggs, but the pickled egg is just something
Speaker 1: just totally different. Or you can use your spoon. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably smarter, um, but you can you smell it?
Speaker 1: Do you like vinegar? I mean, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: a Jew and a Jamaican. I think I like everything
Speaker 1: from I'm trying that. I think you might like this. Okay,
Speaker 1: So do I should I just try to break it?
Speaker 1: Or do I just bite it? How did you just
Speaker 1: pick it up and bite it? Here we go, don't
Speaker 1: mind the faces. Everybody here like cheers cheers. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Oh it's hard. I thought it was gonna be soft.
Speaker 1: It's not that bad. I was expecting softness. It's hard.
Speaker 1: M hmm. I was gonna be soft from it from
Speaker 1: minting than this juice. And I cooked it. It cooks
Speaker 1: it like that. Well one day, boil them first, but
Speaker 1: then you know, still with a boiled eggs, still soft,
Speaker 1: but the juice gets it too. This I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: Miss Jackson. This is it. This is an acquired I mean,
Speaker 1: you had to have been broke to be eating knees.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know. I'm gonna make our crew
Speaker 1: try it, because sometimes we have stuff on this show
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I'm gonna have to get any shout
Speaker 1: out to Jared. Jared, you ready to try this? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: m hm yeah, this is no fuiretae. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: give you kudos for this. Give me Ms Jackson, give
Speaker 1: me kudos for this because this is a once in
Speaker 1: a lifetime one and done for me. Yeah, you're from
Speaker 1: I'm from New York. You're from New York. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's h's not New York thing?
Speaker 1: You know? There for everybody like, you guys, gotta just
Speaker 1: try this one time. It's definitely like if you like vinegar,
Speaker 1: vinegar person, I love vinegar. Yeah, we just we just
Speaker 1: had a guest on that likes vinegar too, Like I
Speaker 1: put vinegar on everything. She would have loved this. You
Speaker 1: had heard could have had a vinegar vinegar fast. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what was going on at the time when you
Speaker 1: were eating pickled eggs. I'm gonna keepna I'm gonna eat
Speaker 1: the whole egg. By the way, you got it's still protein.
Speaker 1: Can never again. This is this is what and done.
Speaker 1: But what was going on when you were eating pickled
Speaker 1: egg yolks? Mean when I was younger? Um, I love
Speaker 1: to eat this just in general, but to continue to
Speaker 1: eat it, Um, it's a it's a taste for me.
Speaker 1: It's nostalgic for me. Um, it's what I grew up eating.
Speaker 1: Walking to the corner store. That was even a thing
Speaker 1: being young, walking to the corner store, or even before
Speaker 1: school started, we walked to the corner store, got um
Speaker 1: chips and hot sausage or pickled eggs. But you saw
Speaker 1: like candy now later chips, the little twinkies in the package.
Speaker 1: You said, oh, those eggs those eggs are calling my name.
Speaker 1: I need a pickle egg. I needed pockletic. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the whole world learned something.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think I think anyone would ever say, okay,
Speaker 1: miss Jackie, she's kicking back some eggs. Yeah I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people will probably look at me and think, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: not eating that. No, when when I look at you,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, she's fit. You know, you're physically beautiful,
Speaker 1: So okay, she's probably eating all these I have no idea,
Speaker 1: maybe sushi or something. Then you show but pickled eggs
Speaker 1: as like a favorite thing that you're ordering through the mail.
Speaker 1: I'm like proud. It's like where I come from. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like part of when people look at me,
Speaker 1: they just pretty face and um, maybe nothing really behind it.
Speaker 1: But it is a lot more to that. Um, it's
Speaker 1: not just a pretty face. Um. But a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know how I grew up either. I mean
Speaker 1: I had seven eight nine year old Um, I was
Speaker 1: getting in the house before my mom, making sure my
Speaker 1: siblings were um doing their homework or babe before she
Speaker 1: got home. Um, and she went she worked a job
Speaker 1: and then she did uh night school as well. Was
Speaker 1: she a single parent? Um? Single parents? My father? Um,
Speaker 1: my father I think was in prison until I was
Speaker 1: about ten or eleven years old. Um, but yep, single
Speaker 1: parents getting home um late, having to cook for us sometimes.
Speaker 1: And then even with that, I felt bad that my
Speaker 1: mom had to come home and cook for us. So
Speaker 1: I started cooking at a young age, just simple things.
Speaker 1: Or I would see her making like simple meals like
Speaker 1: the beans and the rice, and um, all I can
Speaker 1: make that. So trying to cook these certain things before
Speaker 1: she even got home, UM made me feel good that
Speaker 1: she didn't have to do this extra stuff because she's
Speaker 1: busting her ass all day and the night to provide
Speaker 1: a better life for us. Were you the oldest of
Speaker 1: your siblings? Um? Yeah, that we're living in the household. Wow.
Speaker 1: So um it was me, and then I had two
Speaker 1: younger sisters and then two cousins living living with us
Speaker 1: at the time. So wow, that's cool that you looked
Speaker 1: out for your mom like that. Though. That's really cool.
Speaker 1: I feel like it. It made me. It helped shape
Speaker 1: me into who I am today, just with UM, loving
Speaker 1: my family, loving where I came from, UM, loving how
Speaker 1: she raised me or looking out for my siblings just
Speaker 1: how I had to or just wanted to because I
Speaker 1: didn't have to. Um, mind you. But it's like when
Speaker 1: you have family and you you love and you look
Speaker 1: at your family a certain way, like you want to
Speaker 1: look out for them. You want them to, UM be
Speaker 1: good at the end of the day. Yeah, I understand it.
Speaker 1: So where did like entrepreneurship hit your Like when did
Speaker 1: it hit your radar? Um? You know what entrepreneurship it
Speaker 1: just it just came naturally. So when I was younger,
Speaker 1: just in general, UM, I love the glitz and the
Speaker 1: glam of um being an actress or Hollywood m movies,
Speaker 1: modeling so UM. I went to a television production UM
Speaker 1: high school. So I learned like a lot of the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of filming or writing scripts and things
Speaker 1: like that. UM. And I also like went to like
Speaker 1: a little modeling school when I was younger. UM. But
Speaker 1: along with those things, I was always obsessed with, UM
Speaker 1: clothes or high heels, your shoe collections. Crazy. That's It's
Speaker 1: like I call it a good bad habit if that
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. UM. So every since I can remember,
Speaker 1: I was wearing high heels or my mom would let
Speaker 1: me wear high heels. Since I was like fourteen fifteen,
Speaker 1: I've been wearing high hills. Now, were you one of
Speaker 1: those girls that were like the only one in the
Speaker 1: school wearing heels or was everybody wearing heels in your school?
Speaker 1: She was in Miami, right, so yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: around my generation, they were still into those sneakers, Like
Speaker 1: I would wear the sneakers and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: I was still like want to rock my little platforms
Speaker 1: and being a little different and stuff. But I've always
Speaker 1: been like that, which is shoes with my shoes. Like
Speaker 1: trying to remember. So, were you doing like entrepreneurial type
Speaker 1: stuff in high school or yeah? So in high school, well,
Speaker 1: I started middle school, middle school, the high school, Um,
Speaker 1: I was selling UH chips and juice, honey buns candy.
Speaker 1: So I would go to school with a big bag
Speaker 1: um like a mini Duffel bag, and I would freeze
Speaker 1: the juices um at night before I went to school,
Speaker 1: take them out, and in the morning people begin their
Speaker 1: juices and their honey buns for me or throughout class.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I would get in trouble because people be
Speaker 1: knocking on my door or like homeroom likes Jackson in
Speaker 1: here t sh would be like if you don't get
Speaker 1: out of here, um, but like coming to get chips
Speaker 1: or candy or juice. Uh So yeah, that was You
Speaker 1: just made me realize that that was like the start
Speaker 1: of my entrepreneurial and what we're using the money for,
Speaker 1: um for school stuff. Um My mom pretty much had
Speaker 1: to provide for me and my sisters, um my, my
Speaker 1: two cousins. And it was things that I wanted that
Speaker 1: she really didn't have the money to get me. So
Speaker 1: if I wanted to go on the field trip or
Speaker 1: get extra things for school, I was making this money
Speaker 1: with selling this stuff in school to provide myself with
Speaker 1: what I wanted pretty much like even for prom or
Speaker 1: um high school events and stuff like that. The money
Speaker 1: didn't have to come out of her pockets. So and
Speaker 1: it felt it made me. It made me feel good
Speaker 1: that I was making my own money to buy the
Speaker 1: stuff that I wanted at the end of the day. Yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: when I was growing up at school, we were we
Speaker 1: were definitely poor. We didn't ask our parents for anything.
Speaker 1: But if you were poor in my school, you got
Speaker 1: made fun up. They was like scrub especially with TLC
Speaker 1: dropped the most scrubs you have made for the bed
Speaker 1: if we didn't have like the cool kicks and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So did you have to experience that or
Speaker 1: did you did? Are you making enough money to like
Speaker 1: be like, here's my one pair of good shoes to
Speaker 1: ride you know what? UM? I didn't really experience that.
Speaker 1: And I feel like in a sense like kids maybe
Speaker 1: picked on kids that they knew that they could pick
Speaker 1: on because I didn't have the best of things. UM,
Speaker 1: But I didn't have the worst of things either. UM.
Speaker 1: I still had like my little things here and there,
Speaker 1: my my father, UM, when he did get out of prison,
Speaker 1: UM was able to, you know, help out some and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I had a pair of Nikes
Speaker 1: or um, some Pumas or some I think when I
Speaker 1: was younger, some uh Sconi's if I'm not mistaken, but
Speaker 1: that still UM, I still UM, I didn't have everything
Speaker 1: I wanted. Like kids was walking, kids were rocking on
Speaker 1: peppal or Fu Boo or Sean John, um, things like that,
Speaker 1: and I definitely couldn't afford that. So I mean off
Speaker 1: label clothes, no label clothes. UM. When I got to
Speaker 1: high school, I did wear uniforms so so that that
Speaker 1: did make it easier because you have a uniform and
Speaker 1: which is wore your your playing pants or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I watched your social media. I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: yours and we have some mutual friends, so we get
Speaker 1: to cross over a little bit. Um, but I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of yours. You know, you're definitely we've already touched
Speaker 1: on you know, you're externally beautiful, You're hilarious online. You
Speaker 1: definitely you definitely have your I feel like your your
Speaker 1: funny side is definitely showcased on your social media. But
Speaker 1: when I see you know what called my attention was
Speaker 1: you have the shoegummies And I know that process was
Speaker 1: this process wasn't your typical like when you see um,
Speaker 1: you know celebrities, they'll do like endorsement deals or or
Speaker 1: you know, like they and I'm not negating anybody's work
Speaker 1: or anything, but it's more of a sign on. But
Speaker 1: in your case, you invented something to help aide your
Speaker 1: shoe I'm your shoe collection. I yeah, pretty much my
Speaker 1: shoe collection. What was the process like to like, were
Speaker 1: you finding a did you find a problem and then
Speaker 1: realized there was no solution? And then you went to
Speaker 1: invention mode. Yeah, pretty much. So honestly, just with having
Speaker 1: my own obsession with high hills, wearing them day in
Speaker 1: and day out, I was already on the search for
Speaker 1: finding something that would help them be more comfortable and everything.
Speaker 1: At the time, I think maybe there were some foot
Speaker 1: creams um which absolutely don't do anything, or inserts shoe
Speaker 1: the shoe inserts for the ball of the foot, and
Speaker 1: those It absolutely nothing to me. Uh So I just
Speaker 1: particularly had my Aha moment one day and just thought, well,
Speaker 1: if things go in the shoe and they don't do anything,
Speaker 1: or if they do go in the shoe, they can
Speaker 1: make the shoe tighter or slip around. Yeah, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what stops me from maybe putting something on the outside bottom?
Speaker 1: I mean, I have more room here and um, this
Speaker 1: can to me do more good than something going inside.
Speaker 1: So at the time I took one pair of shoe
Speaker 1: to my shoe, a pair of guy at the time,
Speaker 1: and I asked him how much rubber or material can
Speaker 1: I put on the bottom of the shoe so I
Speaker 1: can um still walk in it, and um it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's still wearable. He put um like a quarter of
Speaker 1: an inch thick of rubber on the bottom of the shoe.
Speaker 1: I picked up like a week later. Um, I wore
Speaker 1: it that night, and I kid you not, I was
Speaker 1: amazed at how this little piece of rubber that he
Speaker 1: put under the shoe really changed the dynamic of the
Speaker 1: depths that I was taken in the shoe from when
Speaker 1: they didn't have the product on there and I was
Speaker 1: taking my shoes twenty and thirty pair to him. Um
Speaker 1: after that, so he can put extra rober at the
Speaker 1: bottom because it didn't make that money. So you realize
Speaker 1: you can't put something in the shoe, But what made
Speaker 1: you think? I just can't imagine how you thought that far?
Speaker 1: So like literally think and it's genius because if you
Speaker 1: think about it, like what is it? You're offsetting the
Speaker 1: balance back onto the heel of the shoes that so
Speaker 1: what happens is it um it can tilt your foot
Speaker 1: and the shoe back slightly and it'll take a lot
Speaker 1: of that pressure off the balls of the feet and
Speaker 1: even in some instances it redistributes some of that pressure
Speaker 1: more evenly across the foot on putting um um more
Speaker 1: pressure on the heel as well. UM. Normally, when we
Speaker 1: wear high heels, it's over our body weight on the
Speaker 1: balls of our feet. So that's like one of the
Speaker 1: bigger issues. So now you have all this weight on
Speaker 1: the balls of your feet, which are going to make
Speaker 1: your your toes um hurt faster, the balls of your feet,
Speaker 1: um and all of that. So that's where I come
Speaker 1: into play with shoegumm me and it does take the
Speaker 1: pressure off. Um. I feel like it makes me walk
Speaker 1: more confidently because when I wear heels, UM, the best
Speaker 1: way that I can describe it is like a forward feeling.
Speaker 1: And it's like when you put your heels on and
Speaker 1: you're shifted this way. So with my product, now your
Speaker 1: weight is shifted back into a more comfortable stance. That
Speaker 1: makes sense, Yeah, instead of that forward feeling. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, um, a lot of women wear heels and
Speaker 1: they're constantly it's on like a tilt forward and um
Speaker 1: that's it's it's uncomfortable. Yeah, I UM. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: get a small shoe collection, you know, I do one
Speaker 1: shoe at a time. I'll splurge you like once every
Speaker 1: couple of months. By the way, we have to there
Speaker 1: was a shoe cam. You need a shoe camp because
Speaker 1: her shoes are so fired today. Um, you definitely have
Speaker 1: to start get a shoe cam for sure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: your shoes are these are beautiful red boots. But I
Speaker 1: so I went into the store the other day. I
Speaker 1: think I had seen like St. Laurent or something. It
Speaker 1: was cute, these cute little shoes with a little s
Speaker 1: and on the phone, and I tried those things on
Speaker 1: it and things hurt so bad, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a fly. But man, like if I go because
Speaker 1: I'm doing this some festival in New York, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'll just wear this on during
Speaker 1: the festival, like I would literally have to have them
Speaker 1: in my bag and just wear them while sitting. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, I'm not spending you know, I think,
Speaker 1: oh even yeah, I thought yeah, but I was I'm
Speaker 1: not dropping that much for her shoes that I can't
Speaker 1: even wear for like three seconds. And I've done that
Speaker 1: before where I've dropped that much and they collect dust
Speaker 1: in my closet because I'm like, I can't ever wear
Speaker 1: it again. And so that particular shoe that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: a lot of ladies come to me complaining about that
Speaker 1: shoe in particular, and I literally just did a post
Speaker 1: about it. Um. I saw the comments on it too.
Speaker 1: They were going in and nothing you can do to
Speaker 1: fix that shoe, Like so many people complain about that
Speaker 1: shoe and then like some people are like, well why
Speaker 1: do you even pay that much? And you know that
Speaker 1: she was uncomfortable. And I think with heels just in general,
Speaker 1: like the pain that we get from wearing the heels
Speaker 1: is the price of this beauty. But with my product,
Speaker 1: I I helped with that pretty much. Um, someone else
Speaker 1: just did a post with that wire sell shoe. Her
Speaker 1: shoe literally had dust in the shoe. You can see
Speaker 1: the dust in the video on the shoe and she
Speaker 1: put the gummies on the bottom, and um, she did
Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of crazy stuff in the video,
Speaker 1: like um doing the Megan nostalgia needs or can I
Speaker 1: swallow Mende now? Like it was a really good video,
Speaker 1: but um, that shoot in particularly it is definitely, um
Speaker 1: a killer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I think I
Speaker 1: want to start leaning towards like Fendi or something because
Speaker 1: Benny has some comfortable shoe. I think every brand can
Speaker 1: have some comfortable shoes. Is just like those certain ones
Speaker 1: are just really uncomfortable, and a lot of women don't
Speaker 1: factor certain things also with heels that they just think
Speaker 1: going out the gate, I'm aware of five in chill
Speaker 1: and I'm aware this all night and is this and no,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of factors when it comes to high heels.
Speaker 1: That you have flat feet, um, even the length of
Speaker 1: your legs is well, like do you normally walking hills? Um?
Speaker 1: Have you ever walked into five in shield? Four? And
Speaker 1: sheeld three and schill? Um. It's just a lot of
Speaker 1: factors when it comes out. I would not even think
Speaker 1: about those questions. I just go and I'm like today,
Speaker 1: i wanna look sexy from my husband, So I'm gona.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look cool and figure out how to walk
Speaker 1: in them later. Yeah, the the endstep, the height of
Speaker 1: the hill. I can go on and on about a
Speaker 1: pair of shoes and what can be more comfortable and
Speaker 1: what to stay away from, like do you um uh
Speaker 1: like a pointed shoe? Though, so Kates, you know what
Speaker 1: those are? The Christian Lubertan's Oh yeah, you mean the
Speaker 1: ones that come to a point. Yeah. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: have a bother. I don't even bother. Yeah. Some people
Speaker 1: buy um, some ladies buy my product and they think
Speaker 1: that shoegummies helped with the point of the shoe, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, baby, no, Like I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: help with the pressure on the ball at your feet.
Speaker 1: But if you want to cram your feet in this point,
Speaker 1: you gotta do with that all on your own. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Now in those cases, are they supposed to buy the
Speaker 1: shoes bigger so it doesn't go to the point. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to really know what size to buy that
Speaker 1: shoe in, because one, you don't want it flapping off
Speaker 1: everybody too big, But then you don't want it too
Speaker 1: tight because your feet already crammed in that pointed style.
Speaker 1: Now do you see shoe gummies as the beginning of
Speaker 1: other because there's so many pressure points, Like when I
Speaker 1: wear heels. I don't wear a lot of heels anymore,
Speaker 1: but when I wear heels, like there's you know, the
Speaker 1: side the what is that the corns I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm using the right terms, but ends or whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, you know, like this side right here?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's why that can be
Speaker 1: the bunny in. Yeah, So like, are you going to
Speaker 1: start doing because the gummies are like, I feel like
Speaker 1: the gummies are just the beginning. Especially when you talk
Speaker 1: you're like a shoe. Yeah, like you're like, I'm all
Speaker 1: about my foothealth. Honestly, when when my feet are good
Speaker 1: and I'm out and about, um, I'm mixing and mingland.
Speaker 1: I don't want to worry about my feet. I feel
Speaker 1: like if if, if my feet hurt, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people who wear heels can contest for this.
Speaker 1: You're just not in the mood to do anything. You
Speaker 1: don't want to talk. I'm gonna just sit down over
Speaker 1: here till it's time to go, and um, that's not
Speaker 1: what I want to deal with when I'm and I'm
Speaker 1: out and I'm wearing my heels like, I want to
Speaker 1: wear them. I want to show them, I want to
Speaker 1: walk around. So yeah, so kind of stepping back a
Speaker 1: little bit. Um, so you take your twenty thirty pairs
Speaker 1: of shoes and you start adding this rubber layer. This
Speaker 1: is the the pre gummy, the pre gummy. At what
Speaker 1: point do you say, Okay, I want to invest more time,
Speaker 1: energy and money into actually making this brand. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I came up with shoegum me or the first idea
Speaker 1: of it in twenty oh nine. See, that was a
Speaker 1: long time ago, so I didn't think to make it
Speaker 1: a consumer product until about um, I would say maybe
Speaker 1: six seven years ago now. Um. But having that moment
Speaker 1: or those thoughts, I just thought to myself, well, I
Speaker 1: know what the product does, and I wear it. And
Speaker 1: probably at the time I had a few friends maybe
Speaker 1: going to get the rubber put on the bottom of
Speaker 1: their shoes, so they knew how it worked. So after
Speaker 1: knowing you, they got it. Yeah. So then then this
Speaker 1: isn't like you're selling it. They were just like, oh,
Speaker 1: what are you doing the last thirty hours? And you
Speaker 1: were like shoe gummy. You were like this place. They
Speaker 1: would complain about their shoes and I would just sell them, well,
Speaker 1: send the shoe over here and they'll do this too it.
Speaker 1: And they were rave about it because they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to um where maybe it was a shoe that
Speaker 1: they had war for an hour, couldn't wear it pass
Speaker 1: an hour. It was just insane crazy. Put the um
Speaker 1: the gummy at the time what it was on the
Speaker 1: bottom and they were able to wear the shoe the
Speaker 1: whole night. So it really made that much of a
Speaker 1: difference and UM up until six seven years ago, I
Speaker 1: started to think, well, maybe I need to hone in
Speaker 1: on this, like to make it a consumer product, Like
Speaker 1: how do I do that? Because at the time the
Speaker 1: shower pair guy had to do it for me. So
Speaker 1: now I just started. I had to start thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: what do I have to do to make this a
Speaker 1: product that people can put on at home? So what
Speaker 1: was that next step? Like, well, first, before all of that,
Speaker 1: I found me a patent lawyer. Okay, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So I found a patent lawyer and UM
Speaker 1: pretty much started the paperwork with him, UM with following
Speaker 1: my patent application. UM. And what we had to do
Speaker 1: first was, UM, I think, look into the US database,
Speaker 1: the patent database, and do UM uh to look if
Speaker 1: anything on the market was like this. And I was
Speaker 1: already telling him absolutely not because I would be using it.
Speaker 1: So before that, yeah, so before UM before still before then,
Speaker 1: he was just like, we have to do it anyways.
Speaker 1: Then moving forward from that, we started my UM my
Speaker 1: patent application and UM. While that was getting done, UM,
Speaker 1: I found a cat designer and UM a cat designer
Speaker 1: is someone who can UM digitally digitally make UM the
Speaker 1: product in the computer, and um, from there, um we
Speaker 1: came up with like the first with the first gummy
Speaker 1: looked like it looked like honestly, not with this is today.
Speaker 1: It looked like a little tadpole, like I had a
Speaker 1: little a tail coming up the shoe. And then like
Speaker 1: as I started to do more research and develop the product,
Speaker 1: um detail went away and then like the product got
Speaker 1: bigger and what it is now. So so for everyone
Speaker 1: time frame wise, you're so you start in two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine, you don't start actually making it into the
Speaker 1: brand until like six seven years ago. So we could
Speaker 1: see like this is a long journey now where you
Speaker 1: like but I say, like losing a risky amount of
Speaker 1: money trying to invest in this thing, or where you like,
Speaker 1: like was it uncomfortable getting into the space? Was there
Speaker 1: a part of you that was like risk scared or
Speaker 1: risk confidence? Like where was it that the honestly, the
Speaker 1: the I did put a great deal of money into
Speaker 1: post launch, but that wasn't a scary part. The scary
Speaker 1: part was just being a new product. And um, I
Speaker 1: knew how it worked and what it did. My friends
Speaker 1: knew or some of them knew how it worked, and
Speaker 1: what it did. But was the the world going to
Speaker 1: respond to my product the way that I knew it?
Speaker 1: How can I say it? Were they going to respond
Speaker 1: to it the way that I I think they should,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense? And then you were also, I'm
Speaker 1: sure like trying to figure out how do you market it? No? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so then that was the thing also, um, like what
Speaker 1: do I do or what do I say? Or how
Speaker 1: how do I market it? But I think just as
Speaker 1: time went on, it just became easier because it just
Speaker 1: became easy. Um, because it's part of my lifestyle. High
Speaker 1: heels is what I know. High heels is what I do.
Speaker 1: I like what people say, I eat sleep ship, whatever
Speaker 1: I eat sleep ship, high heels I could tell because
Speaker 1: you're like, you have to know how long the leg is?
Speaker 1: And so I'm curious. I have flat feet, Not that
Speaker 1: the whole world needs to know this, but what am
Speaker 1: I allowed to wear heels? So you, of course you're
Speaker 1: allowed to wear heels. My sister, one of my sisters,
Speaker 1: she has flat feet, and um, she would wear high heels, wouldn't.
Speaker 1: She would always complain about um they heard or they
Speaker 1: already started hurting out an hour or so, But um,
Speaker 1: she was one of the first people to test the
Speaker 1: actual consumer made products UM, and she raves about them.
Speaker 1: And with having flat feet, what happens is, Um, since
Speaker 1: you have less of an arch in your foot, the
Speaker 1: foot puts even more pressure on the balls of your feet.
Speaker 1: Oh snap. So yeah, So with my product and its
Speaker 1: alleviating some of that pressure, it does help you wear
Speaker 1: your high hills longer because it's taking some of that
Speaker 1: pressure off. Yeah. Now with flat feet, does that cause
Speaker 1: your ankle to roll more? Is that? Does that? What
Speaker 1: would that make that more difficult? Um? No, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say we'll make it roll more. UM. With HIO is
Speaker 1: just in general, Um, we're putting more pressure on our knees,
Speaker 1: our ankles, and the bottom and the bottoms of our feet.
Speaker 1: So so it sounds like for all y'all flat footers,
Speaker 1: you'll need this really bad. Yeah. I do get a
Speaker 1: lot of customers who who have flat feet omni acts,
Speaker 1: will it help and stuff like that. So where do
Speaker 1: people buy the actual product? Like if I want to
Speaker 1: go and buy and now, and do we have to
Speaker 1: buy one per pairchue or so it is, um, one
Speaker 1: per pair of shoe. They aren't transferable or reusable and
Speaker 1: that's for safety reasons. I mean, like we have a
Speaker 1: certain adhesive to stick to the bottom of the shoe,
Speaker 1: and if it's yield up or that seal is broken,
Speaker 1: then you can't really reuse it and put it on
Speaker 1: another shoe. So it is one pair per shoe, okay,
Speaker 1: And then what is the price point of these UM?
Speaker 1: So for one pair is thirty five dollars, for two
Speaker 1: pair UM like a bulk UM is sixty five and
Speaker 1: then for like a three a three pack or three
Speaker 1: pair is ninety dollars UM. And we also this is
Speaker 1: black and we have tan, and then we also just
Speaker 1: launched red for those ladies who have UM. Now where
Speaker 1: do where do people buy them? Online? Online? So I
Speaker 1: have my own online e commerce and that's the only
Speaker 1: place where they can be purchased as of right now.
Speaker 1: So are you looking to get distribution in retail? UM?
Speaker 1: I feel like once I get more UM notoriety, more notoriety,
Speaker 1: more awareness of the brand, than I do want to
Speaker 1: branch off and get into stores. Because if someone's buying
Speaker 1: a shoe that day, then it's even more of a
Speaker 1: thing to go into the store or that same store
Speaker 1: and be able to buy a pair of gummies too,
Speaker 1: where or put on that shoe that night. I would
Speaker 1: think because it's it's it's a nominal investment. So like
Speaker 1: if you go into the store, you're buying a thousand
Speaker 1: dollar pair of shoes, it makes sense to just But
Speaker 1: in the case of I guess for right now, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go online and just stock up. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to stock up. You Um, what an
Speaker 1: amazing journey that is. Now do you want to just
Speaker 1: permanently stay in the shoe game? You thought about designing shoes?
Speaker 1: You know what? Before this was even a thought, Like
Speaker 1: I always thought, like, you know, I want to be
Speaker 1: an actress, I want to be a model. Um, I
Speaker 1: love shoes. I want to be a shoe designer. So, UM,
Speaker 1: being a shoe designer has always been in the back
Speaker 1: of my mind. But with having my product, it's, um,
Speaker 1: it's something that's a reoccurring thought, if if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: because I deal with this every day. I damn never
Speaker 1: wear it every day. Um, but you know, just in
Speaker 1: general foot health. UM, adding on to the shoe gummy
Speaker 1: brand is something that I want to do as well.
Speaker 1: But I definitely want to get into designing shoes high heels.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be just high heels. So
Speaker 1: for people that will look and obviously not hearing this interview,
Speaker 1: because after hearing this interview, it doesn't sound like this
Speaker 1: journey was easy. Um. What is a day in the
Speaker 1: life of you as an entrepreneur? Now that you've invented
Speaker 1: the product, you know what, it has been easier now,
Speaker 1: I would say so up until like a few months ago, UM,
Speaker 1: I was processing orders. So at the top of the year,
Speaker 1: I was wanting to have more UM give give UM.
Speaker 1: At the top of the year, I wanted to have
Speaker 1: like UM the brand UM be pushed with a lot
Speaker 1: of social media presence, with brand awareness, UM pushing that
Speaker 1: out so people know what the product is, how it works,
Speaker 1: and all that other stuff, and UM with being more
Speaker 1: vocal on TikTok. TikTok just took it and like spun
Speaker 1: it around and I was getting orders like left and right.
Speaker 1: TikTok is like a whole another ball game. UM. So
Speaker 1: at one point I was processing over three thousand orders
Speaker 1: just with this company at home by myself. Wow. So
Speaker 1: you were definitely working like a long like ten hour days.
Speaker 1: I would assumeer. Yeah, UM, Like I would have moments
Speaker 1: where I'm processing, it's coming to the end, and then
Speaker 1: maybe I get a little break and then I come
Speaker 1: back it's like a few hundred more orders to like get,
Speaker 1: you know, rolling and all that other stuff. It definitely
Speaker 1: it was a blessing. It is a blessing for sure. UM.
Speaker 1: So that was my day with like processing orders, UM, emails, UM,
Speaker 1: dealing with UM people's customer service, UM, even social media
Speaker 1: at a certain point, and then I brought in UM
Speaker 1: the girl who works for me now, which she has
Speaker 1: been like a blessing because she picks up all my
Speaker 1: slack with UM. I can't do it all. So if
Speaker 1: you want to get to a certain point when you
Speaker 1: have a business, you can't do it all. And building
Speaker 1: and having the right team around you is definitely needed
Speaker 1: because I feel like, UM, if it wasn't for her
Speaker 1: coming UM and stepping in place for me, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be where I am right now because I can't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't process orders and being social beyond social media and
Speaker 1: run the page how it is and do look at
Speaker 1: emails and my own personal So and then did you
Speaker 1: have to learn e commerce to in addition, like mean,
Speaker 1: when I say e commerce, did you have to learn
Speaker 1: like the digital platform or the tech platform. Um, so
Speaker 1: you were like learning working yep and scaling which is
Speaker 1: extremely tough, and in doing the marketing. Yeah. At the time, um,
Speaker 1: I was getting quotes from like a lot of people
Speaker 1: to like build me a website and do all this
Speaker 1: other stuff logo, and I just thought, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe let me just take a week and let me
Speaker 1: just see how I can do it in my own.
Speaker 1: So I just sat back there, um through the website
Speaker 1: platform that I'm using, and I pretty much built my
Speaker 1: own website. You wow, look at you. So I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna lie I would be afraid. But lately I've
Speaker 1: been curious, Like sometimes they even on dealing with the podcast,
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'm curious what st Jared does or what
Speaker 1: Katie does. This is my crew. Shoutouts to my crew,
Speaker 1: But I'm always curious, like what they're they're like, I
Speaker 1: guess their perspective and what their work is like, or
Speaker 1: what they see and what they come across. Um. It
Speaker 1: can be very tedious. I mean before even shoegum me, um,
Speaker 1: I was building my brand fancy Goods. I felt like
Speaker 1: this company was was too stagnant at the time, and
Speaker 1: I just needed something like popping off doing something, and
Speaker 1: I like started a lash brand fancy goods. Um. So
Speaker 1: I started with my web designing with that. So then
Speaker 1: when it finally came for me to launch Shogun, me
Speaker 1: already knew like the ins and out of how to
Speaker 1: work all that back there with designing the website, I
Speaker 1: just knew, Okay, what type of pictures do I need?
Speaker 1: What's the verbage? And um, what needs to be said
Speaker 1: to the customer and all this other type of stuff.
Speaker 1: So so I I think I have like one last question.
Speaker 1: So when you're building these brands, how are you getting
Speaker 1: the money to pay for the brands? Are you raising capital?
Speaker 1: Are you getting business loans? Like how do you or
Speaker 1: do you like save money? And then like kind of
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to figure out, like how do you
Speaker 1: how does it like how do you go from like
Speaker 1: eating pickled eggs to like two brands? So, um, I
Speaker 1: would say either money that was saved, money I was
Speaker 1: making at the time, UM, money that I was making
Speaker 1: from another business as well, Like you probably rolled the
Speaker 1: money from the last brand into the gummy. I would
Speaker 1: assume right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, so this isn't
Speaker 1: your first rodeo at like e commerce, No, no, no, um,
Speaker 1: it's just at as I built each brand, I knew
Speaker 1: what to do also on what not to do in
Speaker 1: in each stage because with starting with certain things, I
Speaker 1: messed up with a lot um uh, messed up a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Um I knew that. Damn I didn't
Speaker 1: even have to do that then, and now I'm spending
Speaker 1: money on that and now it has to come here.
Speaker 1: So with each company, I knew or started to know, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna wait to do that, or we're gonna do
Speaker 1: this first, or this and and that. So it's it
Speaker 1: is a learning experience just with having a company, just
Speaker 1: just in general, and you know what to do and
Speaker 1: what not to do and yeah, yeah it's funny. I
Speaker 1: have a love hate relationship with entrepreneurship because when you learn,
Speaker 1: it's like you take it on the check. Like I
Speaker 1: saw this clip like Lauren London had to like you
Speaker 1: get chin checked in life, were on a brand, Like
Speaker 1: there's nothing that chin checks you more than losing a
Speaker 1: fat check on a mistake that you're like, damn, I
Speaker 1: should have read did that but I promise you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna make that mistake twice. Um. I was literally just
Speaker 1: talking to a friend of mine about like a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes that I made with developing shogummy at first.
Speaker 1: So when I first had my first um my first prototype,
Speaker 1: I thought that was the end all, be all, This
Speaker 1: is it, this is what we're going to market with.
Speaker 1: And with that prototype, I did um lab testing. So
Speaker 1: I got to um uh lab tested product and what
Speaker 1: that consists of. They had a few ladies who wore
Speaker 1: um the same type of hell with the gummy um
Speaker 1: put on the bottom, and when they did the testing,
Speaker 1: the lab results showed exactly what I knew the product
Speaker 1: did with taking a lot of the pressure off the
Speaker 1: balls of the feet. But on the other back end,
Speaker 1: I failed the stability part of that lab testing, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't go to market with the product. But did
Speaker 1: you already like pressed up a bunch of it or
Speaker 1: thousands of all? So I was like, that's in all
Speaker 1: be all. I did maybe like five thousand pairs of
Speaker 1: these little gummies, just thinking this is it, this is
Speaker 1: why I'm going with It was the wrong type of material,
Speaker 1: because that material didn't stick with any type of adhesive
Speaker 1: I was trying to play with or get to work
Speaker 1: at the time. Um, the product was faulty. It was
Speaker 1: too small, the shape was off, and all this other
Speaker 1: type of stuff. So I had to go back to
Speaker 1: the drawing board and fix what was wrong with the product.
Speaker 1: And luckily the guy who owned a lab testing facility,
Speaker 1: he gave me some pointers on what to do to
Speaker 1: make the product better because what it was doing was
Speaker 1: it was rolling the ankle. So with how the product
Speaker 1: was and the women in the videos walking, you can
Speaker 1: see them walking and their ankles going out like that.
Speaker 1: So I couldn't go to market with a faulty product
Speaker 1: and possibly get a lawsuit or something. So I'm so
Speaker 1: that has been like kind of shattering for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was thinking, oh, yeah, I'm doing this lab
Speaker 1: testing and it's gonna be good and in a few
Speaker 1: months I'm gonna be on the shelves or I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be selling online. And it was just more of a
Speaker 1: slap in the face. And it was hard because I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I know what this does. Why is
Speaker 1: it so hard to get this out? Because that wasn't
Speaker 1: the first hurdle. It was before that. It was my
Speaker 1: patent um. With getting my patent, it was two years
Speaker 1: before we even got seen by a patent examiner. And
Speaker 1: when the patent examiner looked at my product, um, they
Speaker 1: gave us obvious miss rejections. And what that's what those are, um,
Speaker 1: they're based off of things that already that are already
Speaker 1: in the database that do something with the bottom of
Speaker 1: the shoe. But it's not really like your product. So
Speaker 1: we had to go back and forth with her for
Speaker 1: like six months. And that's and you're paying, they're paying out,
Speaker 1: but you're fighting and you're not even quitting because most
Speaker 1: people probably would have been like, oh, I forget it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this I think maybe that was even almost four
Speaker 1: years into even starting just everything just in general, and
Speaker 1: at a certain point when you're in so far with that,
Speaker 1: forget the money and certain things. It's just like my
Speaker 1: time and I know what this what? I know what
Speaker 1: my product does, I know how it works? Why is
Speaker 1: it this hard? I just didn't understand. And I would
Speaker 1: have like moments while I would just break down and
Speaker 1: sunk up my whole week honestly just thinking like I
Speaker 1: don't understand. Why is it's not gonna work? Um? Why
Speaker 1: can't patent just go through. I'm failing this over here,
Speaker 1: Like is it ever going to happen? Like I just
Speaker 1: felt I stopped so much in my life at the time,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is gonna be my a game.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm going with and it was just
Speaker 1: not working out, and I just thought, what am I
Speaker 1: going to do if this doesn't go? Wow? And that's
Speaker 1: a long journey, because we're in two thousand twenty two,
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, and two thousand nine. Was was that
Speaker 1: the first date that check you put it on the
Speaker 1: bottom of the shoe? Yeah? Yeah. So for everybody that's listening,
Speaker 1: if you think about this, that's over ten years of
Speaker 1: back and forth like basically climbing up the mountain taking
Speaker 1: like ten steps forward and then like falling a couple
Speaker 1: of feet and then you gotta keep your gas burning
Speaker 1: the entire time. That's yeah, that's nuts. And then again
Speaker 1: goes back to like what a lot of people say,
Speaker 1: it's just not overnight over and it's like I would
Speaker 1: watch I would watch Shark Tank a lot, and you
Speaker 1: watch that stuff, and like some people are like, damn,
Speaker 1: they just hit it off overnight. Overnight success. Um didn't
Speaker 1: really have to put anything into it. They started six
Speaker 1: months ago, they had their first prototype and prototype and
Speaker 1: did this and internet, and I was like, how is
Speaker 1: it so simple for them? Like why does this have
Speaker 1: to be so hard? And then somebody at the time
Speaker 1: was just telling me sometimes great things take time, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I get that, but I wanted
Speaker 1: down like what about now, Like I don't want the
Speaker 1: time for that? But it honestly has. It has made
Speaker 1: me who I am today because from those times where
Speaker 1: I just thought I'm getting all this bad news, my
Speaker 1: whole week is messed up. I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: I have taken those moments and groomed myself into Okay,
Speaker 1: if I have a problem, how do I fix it? What?
Speaker 1: Instead of blowing up being braddy about it? Okay, what's
Speaker 1: the steps to fix it? It can't be fixed, how
Speaker 1: do we go around it? All right? Pushing to the side,
Speaker 1: What what do we do about it? Um? And if
Speaker 1: I was the same person that I was back then,
Speaker 1: like having fits and headaches and um, like crying a lot,
Speaker 1: like just boo hoo, Like I just I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: the company that I have right now being that person.
Speaker 1: So my companies have grow me into a better woman,
Speaker 1: a better entrepreneur, two actually run the business how it
Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, I mean, I have so much appreciation
Speaker 1: for you and I say it all the time, and
Speaker 1: it's it's so easy to fall in love with people
Speaker 1: like on this show because it's just like hearing that
Speaker 1: journey is like it's crazy that that's a crazy journey.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's funny because you look at a product
Speaker 1: like shoot coming, it's just like this product that like
Speaker 1: literally saves you know, saves and comforts you and helps
Speaker 1: you so much, and it's it's you have to think
Speaker 1: so far out of the box to get to it,
Speaker 1: but then to think of the journey of it. It
Speaker 1: definitely has been a journey is still as a journey.
Speaker 1: But even if I was on the outside looking and
Speaker 1: you would look at this like that's nothing to make
Speaker 1: what did you possibly need to do that or this
Speaker 1: or whatever? And it just it it took a lot
Speaker 1: of research, development time, tears fallouts on the ground, Like
Speaker 1: but I had to ask though, like do you remember
Speaker 1: to two memories? I would like to just know like
Speaker 1: what was going on, Like was like when you got
Speaker 1: your patent approved and officially past lab testing, and then
Speaker 1: your first sale, like your first sale of somebody you
Speaker 1: did not know, Like it was like, oh so when
Speaker 1: my patent got approved, it was like a weight lifted
Speaker 1: off my shoulder. I felt like, Okay, this that's not it,
Speaker 1: but it's going in the right direction. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like that that push, that's something that more that I
Speaker 1: felt like I needed to give me like some reassurance
Speaker 1: that this is gonna work. Um. And then that first sale,
Speaker 1: I um, honestly, when I pushed that button to open sales, UM,
Speaker 1: I had my phone on and UM, I was recording
Speaker 1: myself and I kid you not. As like sales started
Speaker 1: to come in and come As sales started to come in,
Speaker 1: I was freaking out. I was bawling crying. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like what am I gonna do? Like
Speaker 1: what am I selling? Like? Are they gonna like it? Like?
Speaker 1: What is what is going to happen? Like are they
Speaker 1: going to know what to do? Are they going to
Speaker 1: put it on correctly? Like what are they going to
Speaker 1: say about it? I'm like literally freaking out because it's
Speaker 1: not like a lip loss like loke csses is done
Speaker 1: like a thousand and a thousand million times somebody buys
Speaker 1: a lift class they either like the color they put
Speaker 1: it on, you know, but this is something that it
Speaker 1: hasn't been done. It's the first of its kind, and
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't just I was I don't know,
Speaker 1: I was speaking out. It's crazy that you thought, after
Speaker 1: you did all these years of research and everything, that
Speaker 1: you still had that little bit of like possible self doubt,
Speaker 1: Like is it you know, we talked about it before,
Speaker 1: like imposter syndrome with like um the Ceover Vault. He
Speaker 1: had mentioned that He's like, there's this thing called imposter
Speaker 1: syndrome because I'm like, yo, sometimes I can make it
Speaker 1: to the top and then I feel like, damn uh,
Speaker 1: are they going to realize who I really am? Something?
Speaker 1: You like, am I good enough to be here? Or
Speaker 1: you know. I definitely had my instances where I feel
Speaker 1: that way because just in general, my my product is
Speaker 1: still newer on the market, so I am scaling pretty fast.
Speaker 1: But it's also like that that voice in the back
Speaker 1: of my head like are we really gonna do this?
Speaker 1: Like is this really like how we're gonna go? Like
Speaker 1: is it really gonna work? Is it gonna be like
Speaker 1: a big booming sales is gonna dwindle down? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be a fad for something? Um? But um.
Speaker 1: One thing that always reassures me is the reviews that
Speaker 1: I get from like a lot of my customers, and
Speaker 1: the thank yous that I get from them. Or how
Speaker 1: this one lady in particular, UM, it always sticks out
Speaker 1: in my mind. She had foot or ankle surgery or
Speaker 1: something and she had to get pins in her ankle
Speaker 1: and she was not able to wear high heels. Um
Speaker 1: after doing that, and she purchased the product and she
Speaker 1: was able to wear high he was again with wearing
Speaker 1: my product on the bottom of hers shoes. Wow, that's amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: I know for a fact, I'm getting it. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: getting me some piers because I have a nice layer
Speaker 1: of dust on it. Nice there. And it's always expensive shoes.
Speaker 1: It's never like my cheap shoes. It's like, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's so sad. A lot of ladies hit me with that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we we buy these shoes, whether they're
Speaker 1: cheap or expensive or whatever, and we want to wear them.
Speaker 1: We want to look good in them. So if my
Speaker 1: product is giving you an extra hour like, girl, put
Speaker 1: them shoes on. Hell yeah, like even it's only worth
Speaker 1: the investment. Um always so Asia. Um. Like when we're
Speaker 1: going out of something and she's like, um, well should
Speaker 1: I bring this or should I wear that? I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you better wear that stuff? It's just in the closet.
Speaker 1: Put that stuff on? Yeah, I mean you buy it
Speaker 1: to wear it. You want to look good, That's true.
Speaker 1: I want those people. I'll buy a product and first
Speaker 1: of all, it will be in my house like less
Speaker 1: than ten minutes. I'll be like, let's change it to that,
Speaker 1: you know, and then I like destroy it, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'll rock it so it looks like dead. And
Speaker 1: then I'm like, that's the new stuff coming. I don't
Speaker 1: know if i'll wear at all. Well, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming and teaching me a dish that I'll
Speaker 1: promise you. I assure you, Miss Jackson, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: I will never ever. You won't even see me nibble
Speaker 1: on that thing. And I'm gonna make everybody in the
Speaker 1: squad try this. You gotta try one, because I'm meant
Speaker 1: even know him before I leave. This thing is absolutely
Speaker 1: like I'm just saying, you have to have a quiet
Speaker 1: taste um and you you know what, you have great
Speaker 1: taste clearly just just in the food area. You know
Speaker 1: I've got great tastes and food I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope to never ever be so down
Speaker 1: and out or just even in a vicinity where called
Speaker 1: eggs is like my only option because it's just I
Speaker 1: think everything else is great. Just just one and done.
Speaker 1: I'll show you you will never even finished that one.
Speaker 1: I can't. It's I just want to describe for all
Speaker 1: your listeners. It's like a hard egg. It tastes vinegree
Speaker 1: which the taste I can get past. It's the texture
Speaker 1: and just I'm just not rocking it like I'm good,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna rock some shoegummies. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your time. Shout out to our listeners. Definitely check
Speaker 1: out where can we check you out, follow up with you,
Speaker 1: and keep up with you so you can check me out.
Speaker 1: On Instagram is um Miss Jackson as m I S. S. Jackson,
Speaker 1: and my bio is pretty much all my companies tag
Speaker 1: Shoe Gummy, Fancy Good, Cheek Beauty UM and website as
Speaker 1: well on TikTok Miss Jackson Double O seven. So catch
Speaker 1: me there as well, and yeah, all right, piece out y'all.
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