WEBVTT - MISS SHANTEL JACKSON - Pickled Egg

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen What, and today we have entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 1>and inventor, Miss Chantelle Jackson's in the building, also known

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<v Speaker 1>as Miss Jackson. That's how we always we call you,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Jackson, and then we go Sean tell Jackson, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss jack smithy nasty? Yes, yeah, yeah, either way, either way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the Miss Jackson is. Of course, Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>is my last name. But ever since Outcasts came out

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<v Speaker 1>with that song, I think I was like fourteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and in school even the teachers were in on it,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was roll called during like the announcements or

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<v Speaker 1>um throughout the day, and when my name was called,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would go, I'm just like, it's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>part of I don't know who I am. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always been hilarious to me, but I am Miss Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's good. It's like kind of started you

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<v Speaker 1>with a brand before you. I think it did. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it did. It was just I can't help that

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<v Speaker 1>is my last name, but it just came with something

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<v Speaker 1>and it just pivoted me into yes Jackson, Miss Jackson. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have us eating, Miss Jackson. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have some good old fashion I guess you would say

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<v Speaker 1>some Country Bama pickled eggs. Um. And it's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but vinegar, some spices, some red die and some eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never ever seen this. So when you mentioned pickled eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if you had, like a sandwich bag. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what. I didn't know what. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>pickled eggs. I said what, Yeah, so it already comes

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<v Speaker 1>like this. And when I was little, Um, we used

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the corner store or the candy ladies house. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if we lived in apartments at the time and asked

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<v Speaker 1>for a pickle egg and maybe at the time it

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe twenty cents or a quarter. And where are

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<v Speaker 1>you from Miami? Oh, you're from Miami, they were, they

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<v Speaker 1>were selling pickled eggs in Miami. Yeah, okay, So where

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<v Speaker 1>do you get these out here? You can't get these

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<v Speaker 1>out here. I ordered these online to be here. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're a real pickled eggs man. I am. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even say the last time you ate this was you

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<v Speaker 1>was broke. You just attached to the pickled eggs. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>attached at the hip to the pickled eggs. Honestly, it

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<v Speaker 1>would even get worse than this back home. But now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a vegetarian, so I'm still safe with the egg

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<v Speaker 1>the pickled eggs. Um. But I used to eat the

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<v Speaker 1>hot sausage with the pork or the pickle pig feed like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was bad. Yeah, okay, well let's try these. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we try these? Are we clear before we? Uh? Yeah? Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try some pickled eggs. Now, I've never had pickled

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<v Speaker 1>eggs before. Guys, So if my face does all these

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<v Speaker 1>like expressions, don't mind me because like an expression girl

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<v Speaker 1>like I have a million wrinkles dedicated to me before

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<v Speaker 1>I hit for it. I reco my face too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's try these, and thank you for sharing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like delicate? Was it? Like I said, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a Southern delicacy? Yeah? Right, it is. To see that's

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<v Speaker 1>the word I was I was looking for because we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even get these. She came with these. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's real? She she had another dishes. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I haven't never seen this in California ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And how often do you order these? Um? You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the time I always have to wait

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<v Speaker 1>till I go home to Miami to get them. So

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<v Speaker 1>this past week I was there for my birthday and

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I touched down off the plane, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to the gas station, they had pickled eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was I was getting pickledgg This is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So the pickled eggs are red for all your listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like in this jar of juice. Um, So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you get it out? You use a fork? We

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<v Speaker 1>got a fork. So do you if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>pickled eggs? Do you just naturally like eggs or is

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<v Speaker 1>it just the whole flavor package? I do. I do

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<v Speaker 1>naturally like eggs, but the pickled egg is just something

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<v Speaker 1>just totally different. Or you can use your spoon. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably smarter, um, but you can you smell it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like vinegar? I mean, I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Jew and a Jamaican. I think I like everything

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<v Speaker 1>from I'm trying that. I think you might like this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So do I should I just try to break it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do I just bite it? How did you just

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up and bite it? Here we go, don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind the faces. Everybody here like cheers cheers. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's hard. I thought it was gonna be soft.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that bad. I was expecting softness. It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm. I was gonna be soft from it from

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<v Speaker 1>minting than this juice. And I cooked it. It cooks

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. Well one day, boil them first, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, still with a boiled eggs, still soft,

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<v Speaker 1>but the juice gets it too. This I'm not gonna lie,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Jackson. This is it. This is an acquired I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to have been broke to be eating knees.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I don't know. I'm gonna make our crew

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<v Speaker 1>try it, because sometimes we have stuff on this show

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, I'm gonna have to get any shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Jared. Jared, you ready to try this? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>m hm yeah, this is no fuiretae. I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>give you kudos for this. Give me Ms Jackson, give

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<v Speaker 1>me kudos for this because this is a once in

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime one and done for me. Yeah, you're from

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from New York. You're from New York. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it's h's not New York thing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? There for everybody like, you guys, gotta just

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<v Speaker 1>try this one time. It's definitely like if you like vinegar,

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<v Speaker 1>vinegar person, I love vinegar. Yeah, we just we just

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<v Speaker 1>had a guest on that likes vinegar too, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>put vinegar on everything. She would have loved this. You

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<v Speaker 1>had heard could have had a vinegar vinegar fast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was going on at the time when you

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<v Speaker 1>were eating pickled eggs. I'm gonna keepna I'm gonna eat

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<v Speaker 1>the whole egg. By the way, you got it's still protein.

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<v Speaker 1>Can never again. This is this is what and done.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was going on when you were eating pickled

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<v Speaker 1>egg yolks? Mean when I was younger? Um, I love

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<v Speaker 1>to eat this just in general, but to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>eat it, Um, it's a it's a taste for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nostalgic for me. Um, it's what I grew up eating.

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<v Speaker 1>Walking to the corner store. That was even a thing

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<v Speaker 1>being young, walking to the corner store, or even before

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<v Speaker 1>school started, we walked to the corner store, got um

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<v Speaker 1>chips and hot sausage or pickled eggs. But you saw

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<v Speaker 1>like candy now later chips, the little twinkies in the package.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, oh, those eggs those eggs are calling my name.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a pickle egg. I needed pockletic. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think the whole world learned something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I think I think anyone would ever say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>miss Jackie, she's kicking back some eggs. Yeah I don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people will probably look at me and think, yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>not eating that. No, when when I look at you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, she's fit. You know, you're physically beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, she's probably eating all these I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe sushi or something. Then you show but pickled eggs

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<v Speaker 1>as like a favorite thing that you're ordering through the mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like proud. It's like where I come from. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like part of when people look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>they just pretty face and um, maybe nothing really behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a lot more to that. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just a pretty face. Um. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know how I grew up either. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I had seven eight nine year old Um, I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the house before my mom, making sure my

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<v Speaker 1>siblings were um doing their homework or babe before she

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<v Speaker 1>got home. Um, and she went she worked a job

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<v Speaker 1>and then she did uh night school as well. Was

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<v Speaker 1>she a single parent? Um? Single parents? My father? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>my father I think was in prison until I was

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<v Speaker 1>about ten or eleven years old. Um, but yep, single

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<v Speaker 1>parents getting home um late, having to cook for us sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then even with that, I felt bad that my

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<v Speaker 1>mom had to come home and cook for us. So

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<v Speaker 1>I started cooking at a young age, just simple things.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I would see her making like simple meals like

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<v Speaker 1>the beans and the rice, and um, all I can

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<v Speaker 1>make that. So trying to cook these certain things before

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<v Speaker 1>she even got home, UM made me feel good that

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't have to do this extra stuff because she's

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<v Speaker 1>busting her ass all day and the night to provide

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<v Speaker 1>a better life for us. Were you the oldest of

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<v Speaker 1>your siblings? Um? Yeah, that we're living in the household. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So um it was me, and then I had two

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<v Speaker 1>younger sisters and then two cousins living living with us

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. So wow, that's cool that you looked

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<v Speaker 1>out for your mom like that. Though. That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it. It made me. It helped shape

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<v Speaker 1>me into who I am today, just with UM, loving

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<v Speaker 1>my family, loving where I came from, UM, loving how

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<v Speaker 1>she raised me or looking out for my siblings just

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<v Speaker 1>how I had to or just wanted to because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to. Um, mind you. But it's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you have family and you you love and you look

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<v Speaker 1>at your family a certain way, like you want to

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<v Speaker 1>look out for them. You want them to, UM be

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<v Speaker 1>good at the end of the day. Yeah, I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>So where did like entrepreneurship hit your Like when did

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<v Speaker 1>it hit your radar? Um? You know what entrepreneurship it

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<v Speaker 1>just it just came naturally. So when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>just in general, UM, I love the glitz and the

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<v Speaker 1>glam of um being an actress or Hollywood m movies,

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<v Speaker 1>modeling so UM. I went to a television production UM

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<v Speaker 1>high school. So I learned like a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of filming or writing scripts and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. UM. And I also like went to like

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<v Speaker 1>a little modeling school when I was younger. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>along with those things, I was always obsessed with, UM

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<v Speaker 1>clothes or high heels, your shoe collections. Crazy. That's It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I call it a good bad habit if that

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. UM. So every since I can remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wearing high heels or my mom would let

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<v Speaker 1>me wear high heels. Since I was like fourteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been wearing high hills. Now, were you one of

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<v Speaker 1>those girls that were like the only one in the

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<v Speaker 1>school wearing heels or was everybody wearing heels in your school?

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<v Speaker 1>She was in Miami, right, so yeah, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>around my generation, they were still into those sneakers, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I would wear the sneakers and stuff like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was still like want to rock my little platforms

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<v Speaker 1>and being a little different and stuff. But I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been like that, which is shoes with my shoes. Like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember. So, were you doing like entrepreneurial type

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in high school or yeah? So in high school, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I started middle school, middle school, the high school, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was selling UH chips and juice, honey buns candy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would go to school with a big bag

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<v Speaker 1>um like a mini Duffel bag, and I would freeze

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<v Speaker 1>the juices um at night before I went to school,

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<v Speaker 1>take them out, and in the morning people begin their

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<v Speaker 1>juices and their honey buns for me or throughout class.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I would get in trouble because people be

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<v Speaker 1>knocking on my door or like homeroom likes Jackson in

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<v Speaker 1>here t sh would be like if you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here, um, but like coming to get chips

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<v Speaker 1>or candy or juice. Uh So yeah, that was You

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<v Speaker 1>just made me realize that that was like the start

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<v Speaker 1>of my entrepreneurial and what we're using the money for,

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<v Speaker 1>um for school stuff. Um My mom pretty much had

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<v Speaker 1>to provide for me and my sisters, um my, my

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<v Speaker 1>two cousins. And it was things that I wanted that

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<v Speaker 1>she really didn't have the money to get me. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I wanted to go on the field trip or

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<v Speaker 1>get extra things for school, I was making this money

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<v Speaker 1>with selling this stuff in school to provide myself with

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted pretty much like even for prom or

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<v Speaker 1>um high school events and stuff like that. The money

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to come out of her pockets. So and

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<v Speaker 1>it felt it made me. It made me feel good

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<v Speaker 1>that I was making my own money to buy the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I wanted at the end of the day. Yeah, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up at school, we were we

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<v Speaker 1>were definitely poor. We didn't ask our parents for anything.

0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.360
<v Speaker 1>But if you were poor in my school, you got

0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.640
<v Speaker 1>made fun up. They was like scrub especially with TLC

0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.720
<v Speaker 1>dropped the most scrubs you have made for the bed

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<v Speaker 1>if we didn't have like the cool kicks and all

0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So did you have to experience that or

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<v Speaker 1>did you did? Are you making enough money to like

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<v Speaker 1>be like, here's my one pair of good shoes to

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<v Speaker 1>ride you know what? UM? I didn't really experience that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like in a sense like kids maybe

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<v Speaker 1>picked on kids that they knew that they could pick

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<v Speaker 1>on because I didn't have the best of things. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have the worst of things either. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I still had like my little things here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>my my father, UM, when he did get out of prison,

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<v Speaker 1>UM was able to, you know, help out some and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So I had a pair of Nikes

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<v Speaker 1>or um, some Pumas or some I think when I

0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.040
<v Speaker 1>was younger, some uh Sconi's if I'm not mistaken, but

0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that still UM, I still UM, I didn't have everything

0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I wanted. Like kids was walking, kids were rocking on

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<v Speaker 1>peppal or Fu Boo or Sean John, um, things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I definitely couldn't afford that. So I mean off

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<v Speaker 1>label clothes, no label clothes. UM. When I got to

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<v Speaker 1>high school, I did wear uniforms so so that that

0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.640
<v Speaker 1>did make it easier because you have a uniform and

0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:17.760
<v Speaker 1>which is wore your your playing pants or something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I watched your social media. I'm a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>yours and we have some mutual friends, so we get

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<v Speaker 1>to cross over a little bit. Um, but I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of yours. You know, you're definitely we've already touched

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, you're externally beautiful, You're hilarious online. You

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<v Speaker 1>definitely you definitely have your I feel like your your

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<v Speaker 1>funny side is definitely showcased on your social media. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I see you know what called my attention was

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<v Speaker 1>you have the shoegummies And I know that process was

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<v Speaker 1>this process wasn't your typical like when you see um,

0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know celebrities, they'll do like endorsement deals or or

0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, like they and I'm not negating anybody's work

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, but it's more of a sign on. But

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<v Speaker 1>in your case, you invented something to help aide your

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<v Speaker 1>shoe I'm your shoe collection. I yeah, pretty much my

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<v Speaker 1>shoe collection. What was the process like to like, were

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<v Speaker 1>you finding a did you find a problem and then

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<v Speaker 1>realized there was no solution? And then you went to

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<v Speaker 1>invention mode. Yeah, pretty much. So honestly, just with having

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<v Speaker 1>my own obsession with high hills, wearing them day in

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<v Speaker 1>and day out, I was already on the search for

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<v Speaker 1>finding something that would help them be more comfortable and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, I think maybe there were some foot

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<v Speaker 1>creams um which absolutely don't do anything, or inserts shoe

0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the shoe inserts for the ball of the foot, and

0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.639
<v Speaker 1>those It absolutely nothing to me. Uh So I just

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<v Speaker 1>particularly had my Aha moment one day and just thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if things go in the shoe and they don't do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they do go in the shoe, they can

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<v Speaker 1>make the shoe tighter or slip around. Yeah, I was like, well,

0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.840
<v Speaker 1>what stops me from maybe putting something on the outside bottom?

0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have more room here and um, this

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<v Speaker 1>can to me do more good than something going inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the time I took one pair of shoe

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<v Speaker 1>to my shoe, a pair of guy at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked him how much rubber or material can

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<v Speaker 1>I put on the bottom of the shoe so I

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<v Speaker 1>can um still walk in it, and um it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still wearable. He put um like a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>an inch thick of rubber on the bottom of the shoe.

0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I picked up like a week later. Um, I wore

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<v Speaker 1>it that night, and I kid you not, I was

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<v Speaker 1>amazed at how this little piece of rubber that he

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<v Speaker 1>put under the shoe really changed the dynamic of the

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<v Speaker 1>depths that I was taken in the shoe from when

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the product on there and I was

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<v Speaker 1>taking my shoes twenty and thirty pair to him. Um

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<v Speaker 1>after that, so he can put extra rober at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom because it didn't make that money. So you realize

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<v Speaker 1>you can't put something in the shoe, But what made

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<v Speaker 1>you think? I just can't imagine how you thought that far?

0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.919
<v Speaker 1>So like literally think and it's genius because if you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, like what is it? You're offsetting the

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<v Speaker 1>balance back onto the heel of the shoes that so

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.399
<v Speaker 1>what happens is it um it can tilt your foot

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<v Speaker 1>and the shoe back slightly and it'll take a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that pressure off the balls of the feet and

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<v Speaker 1>even in some instances it redistributes some of that pressure

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<v Speaker 1>more evenly across the foot on putting um um more

0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.679
<v Speaker 1>pressure on the heel as well. UM. Normally, when we

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<v Speaker 1>wear high heels, it's over our body weight on the

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<v Speaker 1>balls of our feet. So that's like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger issues. So now you have all this weight on

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the balls of your feet, which are going to make

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 1>your your toes um hurt faster, the balls of your feet,

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 1>um and all of that. So that's where I come

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<v Speaker 1>into play with shoegumm me and it does take the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure off. Um. I feel like it makes me walk

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 1>more confidently because when I wear heels, UM, the best

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<v Speaker 1>way that I can describe it is like a forward feeling.

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's like when you put your heels on and

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<v Speaker 1>you're shifted this way. So with my product, now your

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<v Speaker 1>weight is shifted back into a more comfortable stance. That

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, Yeah, instead of that forward feeling. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, um, a lot of women wear heels and

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<v Speaker 1>they're constantly it's on like a tilt forward and um

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's it's uncomfortable. Yeah, I UM. I'm starting to

0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>get a small shoe collection, you know, I do one

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>shoe at a time. I'll splurge you like once every

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>couple of months. By the way, we have to there

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<v Speaker 1>was a shoe cam. You need a shoe camp because

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>her shoes are so fired today. Um, you definitely have

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to start get a shoe cam for sure. Yeah, yeah,

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:26.640
<v Speaker 1>your shoes are these are beautiful red boots. But I

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<v Speaker 1>so I went into the store the other day. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I had seen like St. Laurent or something. It

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<v Speaker 1>was cute, these cute little shoes with a little s

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<v Speaker 1>and on the phone, and I tried those things on

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it and things hurt so bad, and I was like, yeah,

0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a fly. But man, like if I go because

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this some festival in New York, and so

0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I'll just wear this on during

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the festival, like I would literally have to have them

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<v Speaker 1>in my bag and just wear them while sitting. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, I'm not spending you know, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh even yeah, I thought yeah, but I was I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not dropping that much for her shoes that I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even wear for like three seconds. And I've done that

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>before where I've dropped that much and they collect dust

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>in my closet because I'm like, I can't ever wear

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<v Speaker 1>it again. And so that particular shoe that you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ladies come to me complaining about that

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<v Speaker 1>shoe in particular, and I literally just did a post

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Um. I saw the comments on it too.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going in and nothing you can do to

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<v Speaker 1>fix that shoe, Like so many people complain about that

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 1>shoe and then like some people are like, well why

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<v Speaker 1>do you even pay that much? And you know that

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<v Speaker 1>she was uncomfortable. And I think with heels just in general,

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<v Speaker 1>like the pain that we get from wearing the heels

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<v Speaker 1>is the price of this beauty. But with my product,

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<v Speaker 1>I I helped with that pretty much. Um, someone else

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<v Speaker 1>just did a post with that wire sell shoe. Her

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<v Speaker 1>shoe literally had dust in the shoe. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>the dust in the video on the shoe and she

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<v Speaker 1>put the gummies on the bottom, and um, she did

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>like a whole bunch of crazy stuff in the video,

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like um doing the Megan nostalgia needs or can I

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>swallow Mende now? Like it was a really good video,

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:18.439
<v Speaker 1>but um, that shoot in particularly it is definitely, um

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a killer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start leaning towards like Fendi or something because

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Benny has some comfortable shoe. I think every brand can

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 1>have some comfortable shoes. Is just like those certain ones

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>are just really uncomfortable, and a lot of women don't

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<v Speaker 1>factor certain things also with heels that they just think

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<v Speaker 1>going out the gate, I'm aware of five in chill

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'm aware this all night and is this and no,

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of factors when it comes to high heels.

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<v Speaker 1>That you have flat feet, um, even the length of

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>your legs is well, like do you normally walking hills? Um?

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever walked into five in shield? Four? And

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>sheeld three and schill? Um. It's just a lot of

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>factors when it comes out. I would not even think

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>about those questions. I just go and I'm like today,

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<v Speaker 1>i wanna look sexy from my husband, So I'm gona.

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna look cool and figure out how to walk

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 1>in them later. Yeah, the the endstep, the height of

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the hill. I can go on and on about a

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.199
<v Speaker 1>pair of shoes and what can be more comfortable and

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>what to stay away from, like do you um uh

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>like a pointed shoe? Though, so Kates, you know what

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>those are? The Christian Lubertan's Oh yeah, you mean the

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>ones that come to a point. Yeah. Yeah, I don't

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>have a bother. I don't even bother. Yeah. Some people

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>buy um, some ladies buy my product and they think

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that shoegummies helped with the point of the shoe, and

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, baby, no, Like I'm just trying to

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>help with the pressure on the ball at your feet.

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But if you want to cram your feet in this point,

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do with that all on your own. So yeah,

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Now in those cases, are they supposed to buy the

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>shoes bigger so it doesn't go to the point. I mean,

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>you have to really know what size to buy that

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>shoe in, because one, you don't want it flapping off

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody too big, But then you don't want it too

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>tight because your feet already crammed in that pointed style.

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Now do you see shoe gummies as the beginning of

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>other because there's so many pressure points, Like when I

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>wear heels. I don't wear a lot of heels anymore,

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>but when I wear heels, like there's you know, the

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>side the what is that the corns I don't know

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>if I'm using the right terms, but ends or whatever,

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Okay, you know, like this side right here?

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's why that can be

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the bunny in. Yeah, So like, are you going to

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>start doing because the gummies are like, I feel like

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>the gummies are just the beginning. Especially when you talk

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 1>you're like a shoe. Yeah, like you're like, I'm all

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>about my foothealth. Honestly, when when my feet are good

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm out and about, um, I'm mixing and mingland.

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to worry about my feet. I feel

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like if if, if my feet hurt, and I think

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who wear heels can contest for this.

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>You're just not in the mood to do anything. You

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk. I'm gonna just sit down over

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>here till it's time to go, and um, that's not

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>what I want to deal with when I'm and I'm

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 1>out and I'm wearing my heels like, I want to

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>wear them. I want to show them, I want to

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>walk around. So yeah, so kind of stepping back a

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Um, so you take your twenty thirty pairs

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of shoes and you start adding this rubber layer. This

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>is the the pre gummy, the pre gummy. At what

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>point do you say, Okay, I want to invest more time,

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>energy and money into actually making this brand. Yeah, so

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I came up with shoegum me or the first idea

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>of it in twenty oh nine. See, that was a

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>long time ago, so I didn't think to make it

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a consumer product until about um, I would say maybe

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>six seven years ago now. Um. But having that moment

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>or those thoughts, I just thought to myself, well, I

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>know what the product does, and I wear it. And

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>probably at the time I had a few friends maybe

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>going to get the rubber put on the bottom of

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>their shoes, so they knew how it worked. So after

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>knowing you, they got it. Yeah. So then then this

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>isn't like you're selling it. They were just like, oh,

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing the last thirty hours? And you

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 1>were like shoe gummy. You were like this place. They

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>would complain about their shoes and I would just sell them, well,

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>send the shoe over here and they'll do this too it.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>And they were rave about it because they wouldn't be

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>able to um where maybe it was a shoe that

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>they had war for an hour, couldn't wear it pass

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>an hour. It was just insane crazy. Put the um

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the gummy at the time what it was on the

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>bottom and they were able to wear the shoe the

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>whole night. So it really made that much of a

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 1>difference and UM up until six seven years ago, I

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>started to think, well, maybe I need to hone in

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>on this, like to make it a consumer product, Like

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 1>how do I do that? Because at the time the

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>shower pair guy had to do it for me. So

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>now I just started. I had to start thinking, all right,

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>what do I have to do to make this a

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>product that people can put on at home? So what

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>was that next step? Like, well, first, before all of that,

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I found me a patent lawyer. Okay, okay, okay, yeah,

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, So I found a patent lawyer and UM

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty much started the paperwork with him, UM with following

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>my patent application. UM. And what we had to do

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>first was, UM, I think, look into the US database,

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the patent database, and do UM uh to look if

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>anything on the market was like this. And I was

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>already telling him absolutely not because I would be using it.

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So before that, yeah, so before UM before still before then,

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>he was just like, we have to do it anyways.

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Then moving forward from that, we started my UM my

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>patent application and UM. While that was getting done, UM,

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I found a cat designer and UM a cat designer

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>is someone who can UM digitally digitally make UM the

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>product in the computer, and um, from there, um we

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>came up with like the first with the first gummy

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>looked like it looked like honestly, not with this is today.

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>It looked like a little tadpole, like I had a

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>little a tail coming up the shoe. And then like

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>as I started to do more research and develop the product,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>um detail went away and then like the product got

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>bigger and what it is now. So so for everyone

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>time frame wise, you're so you start in two thousand

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and nine, you don't start actually making it into the

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>brand until like six seven years ago. So we could

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:34.959
<v Speaker 1>see like this is a long journey now where you

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>like but I say, like losing a risky amount of

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>money trying to invest in this thing, or where you like,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like was it uncomfortable getting into the space? Was there

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a part of you that was like risk scared or

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>risk confidence? Like where was it that the honestly, the

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the I did put a great deal of money into

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>post launch, but that wasn't a scary part. The scary

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>part was just being a new product. And um, I

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>knew how it worked and what it did. My friends

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>knew or some of them knew how it worked, and

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>what it did. But was the the world going to

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>respond to my product the way that I knew it?

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>How can I say it? Were they going to respond

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to it the way that I I think they should,

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense? And then you were also, I'm

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>sure like trying to figure out how do you market it? No? Yeah,

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>so then that was the thing also, um, like what

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>do I do or what do I say? Or how

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>how do I market it? But I think just as

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>time went on, it just became easier because it just

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>became easy. Um, because it's part of my lifestyle. High

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>heels is what I know. High heels is what I do.

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I like what people say, I eat sleep ship, whatever

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I eat sleep ship, high heels I could tell because

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you're like, you have to know how long the leg is?

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm curious. I have flat feet, Not that

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole world needs to know this, but what am

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I allowed to wear heels? So you, of course you're

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.719
<v Speaker 1>allowed to wear heels. My sister, one of my sisters,

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>she has flat feet, and um, she would wear high heels, wouldn't.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>She would always complain about um they heard or they

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>already started hurting out an hour or so, But um,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>she was one of the first people to test the

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>actual consumer made products UM, and she raves about them.

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>And with having flat feet, what happens is, Um, since

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>you have less of an arch in your foot, the

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>foot puts even more pressure on the balls of your feet.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh snap. So yeah, So with my product and its

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>alleviating some of that pressure, it does help you wear

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>your high hills longer because it's taking some of that

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>pressure off. Yeah. Now with flat feet, does that cause

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>your ankle to roll more? Is that? Does that? What

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>would that make that more difficult? Um? No, I wouldn't

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>say we'll make it roll more. UM. With HIO is

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>just in general, Um, we're putting more pressure on our knees,

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>our ankles, and the bottom and the bottoms of our feet.

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>So so it sounds like for all y'all flat footers,

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you'll need this really bad. Yeah. I do get a

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of customers who who have flat feet omni acts,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>will it help and stuff like that. So where do

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>people buy the actual product? Like if I want to

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>go and buy and now, and do we have to

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>buy one per pairchue or so it is, um, one

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>per pair of shoe. They aren't transferable or reusable and

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that's for safety reasons. I mean, like we have a

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>certain adhesive to stick to the bottom of the shoe,

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and if it's yield up or that seal is broken,

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>then you can't really reuse it and put it on

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>another shoe. So it is one pair per shoe, okay,

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>And then what is the price point of these UM?

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 1>So for one pair is thirty five dollars, for two

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>pair UM like a bulk UM is sixty five and

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>then for like a three a three pack or three

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>pair is ninety dollars UM. And we also this is

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>black and we have tan, and then we also just

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>launched red for those ladies who have UM. Now where

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>do where do people buy them? Online? Online? So I

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>have my own online e commerce and that's the only

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>place where they can be purchased as of right now.

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.720
<v Speaker 1>So are you looking to get distribution in retail? UM?

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like once I get more UM notoriety, more notoriety,

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>more awareness of the brand, than I do want to

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>branch off and get into stores. Because if someone's buying

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a shoe that day, then it's even more of a

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>thing to go into the store or that same store

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and be able to buy a pair of gummies too,

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>where or put on that shoe that night. I would

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>think because it's it's it's a nominal investment. So like

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>if you go into the store, you're buying a thousand

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>dollar pair of shoes, it makes sense to just But

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>in the case of I guess for right now, I'm

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>just gonna go online and just stock up. You know,

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to stock up. You Um, what an

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>amazing journey that is. Now do you want to just

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>permanently stay in the shoe game? You thought about designing shoes?

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what? Before this was even a thought, Like

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I always thought, like, you know, I want to be

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>an actress, I want to be a model. Um, I

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>love shoes. I want to be a shoe designer. So, UM,

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 1>being a shoe designer has always been in the back

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>of my mind. But with having my product, it's, um,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it's something that's a reoccurring thought, if if that makes sense,

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>because I deal with this every day. I damn never

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>wear it every day. Um, but you know, just in

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>general foot health. UM, adding on to the shoe gummy

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>brand is something that I want to do as well.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:36.800
<v Speaker 1>But I definitely want to get into designing shoes high heels.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't even have to be just high heels. So

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>for people that will look and obviously not hearing this interview,

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>because after hearing this interview, it doesn't sound like this

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>journey was easy. Um. What is a day in the

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>life of you as an entrepreneur? Now that you've invented

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the product, you know what, it has been easier now,

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I would say so up until like a few months ago, UM,

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I was processing orders. So at the top of the year,

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I was wanting to have more UM give give UM.

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>At the top of the year, I wanted to have

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>like UM the brand UM be pushed with a lot

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of social media presence, with brand awareness, UM pushing that

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 1>out so people know what the product is, how it works,

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and all that other stuff, and UM with being more

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>vocal on TikTok. TikTok just took it and like spun

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>it around and I was getting orders like left and right.

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>TikTok is like a whole another ball game. UM. So

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>at one point I was processing over three thousand orders

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>just with this company at home by myself. Wow. So

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>you were definitely working like a long like ten hour days.

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I would assumeer. Yeah, UM, Like I would have moments

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>where I'm processing, it's coming to the end, and then

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe I get a little break and then I come

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>back it's like a few hundred more orders to like get,

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, rolling and all that other stuff. It definitely

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a blessing. It is a blessing for sure. UM.

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>So that was my day with like processing orders, UM, emails, UM,

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>dealing with UM people's customer service, UM, even social media

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point, and then I brought in UM

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the girl who works for me now, which she has

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>been like a blessing because she picks up all my

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>slack with UM. I can't do it all. So if

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to get to a certain point when you

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.760
<v Speaker 1>have a business, you can't do it all. And building

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and having the right team around you is definitely needed

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.439
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like, UM, if it wasn't for her

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>coming UM and stepping in place for me, I wouldn't

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>be where I am right now because I can't. I

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>couldn't process orders and being social beyond social media and

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>run the page how it is and do look at

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>emails and my own personal So and then did you

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have to learn e commerce to in addition, like mean,

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>when I say e commerce, did you have to learn

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like the digital platform or the tech platform. Um, so

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you were like learning working yep and scaling which is

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>extremely tough, and in doing the marketing. Yeah. At the time, um,

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I was getting quotes from like a lot of people

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to like build me a website and do all this

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>other stuff logo, and I just thought, you know what,

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe let me just take a week and let me

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>just see how I can do it in my own.

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>So I just sat back there, um through the website

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>platform that I'm using, and I pretty much built my

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 1>own website. You wow, look at you. So I'm not

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>even gonna lie I would be afraid. But lately I've

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>been curious, Like sometimes they even on dealing with the podcast,

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, I'm curious what st Jared does or what

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Katie does. This is my crew. Shoutouts to my crew,

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But I'm always curious, like what they're they're like, I

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>guess their perspective and what their work is like, or

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>what they see and what they come across. Um. It

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>can be very tedious. I mean before even shoegum me, um,

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I was building my brand fancy Goods. I felt like

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>this company was was too stagnant at the time, and

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I just needed something like popping off doing something, and

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I like started a lash brand fancy goods. Um. So

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I started with my web designing with that. So then

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>when it finally came for me to launch Shogun, me

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>already knew like the ins and out of how to

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>work all that back there with designing the website, I

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.439
<v Speaker 1>just knew, Okay, what type of pictures do I need?

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>What's the verbage? And um, what needs to be said

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to the customer and all this other type of stuff.

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>So so I I think I have like one last question.

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>So when you're building these brands, how are you getting

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the money to pay for the brands? Are you raising capital?

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Are you getting business loans? Like how do you or

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>do you like save money? And then like kind of

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like I'm trying to figure out, like how do you

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 1>how does it like how do you go from like

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>eating pickled eggs to like two brands? So, um, I

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 1>would say either money that was saved, money I was

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>making at the time, UM, money that I was making

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>from another business as well, Like you probably rolled the

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>money from the last brand into the gummy. I would

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>assume right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, so this isn't

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>your first rodeo at like e commerce, No, no, no, um,

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just at as I built each brand, I knew

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>what to do also on what not to do in

0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>in each stage because with starting with certain things, I

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>messed up with a lot um uh, messed up a

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. Um I knew that. Damn I didn't

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>even have to do that then, and now I'm spending

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.399
<v Speaker 1>money on that and now it has to come here.

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>So with each company, I knew or started to know, Okay,

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna wait to do that, or we're gonna do

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 1>this first, or this and and that. So it's it

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>is a learning experience just with having a company, just

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>just in general, and you know what to do and

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>what not to do and yeah, yeah it's funny. I

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>have a love hate relationship with entrepreneurship because when you learn,

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like you take it on the check. Like I

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>saw this clip like Lauren London had to like you

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>get chin checked in life, were on a brand, Like

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that chin checks you more than losing a

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>fat check on a mistake that you're like, damn, I

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>should have read did that but I promise you ain't

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna make that mistake twice. Um. I was literally just

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>talking to a friend of mine about like a lot

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of mistakes that I made with developing shogummy at first.

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So when I first had my first um my first prototype,

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was the end all, be all, This

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>is it, this is what we're going to market with.

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>And with that prototype, I did um lab testing. So

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I got to um uh lab tested product and what

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that consists of. They had a few ladies who wore

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>um the same type of hell with the gummy um

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>put on the bottom, and when they did the testing,

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the lab results showed exactly what I knew the product

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>did with taking a lot of the pressure off the

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>balls of the feet. But on the other back end,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I failed the stability part of that lab testing, and

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't go to market with the product. But did

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you already like pressed up a bunch of it or

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>thousands of all? So I was like, that's in all

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>be all. I did maybe like five thousand pairs of

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.320
<v Speaker 1>these little gummies, just thinking this is it, this is

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>why I'm going with It was the wrong type of material,

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>because that material didn't stick with any type of adhesive

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to play with or get to work

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>at the time. Um, the product was faulty. It was

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>too small, the shape was off, and all this other

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>type of stuff. So I had to go back to

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the drawing board and fix what was wrong with the product.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>And luckily the guy who owned a lab testing facility,

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>he gave me some pointers on what to do to

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>make the product better because what it was doing was

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it was rolling the ankle. So with how the product

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>was and the women in the videos walking, you can

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>see them walking and their ankles going out like that.

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 1>So I couldn't go to market with a faulty product

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and possibly get a lawsuit or something. So I'm so

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that has been like kind of shattering for you. Yeah,

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>because I was thinking, oh, yeah, I'm doing this lab

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>testing and it's gonna be good and in a few

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>months I'm gonna be on the shelves or I'm gonna

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>be selling online. And it was just more of a

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>slap in the face. And it was hard because I

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, I know what this does. Why is

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it so hard to get this out? Because that wasn't

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the first hurdle. It was before that. It was my

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>patent um. With getting my patent, it was two years

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>before we even got seen by a patent examiner. And

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>when the patent examiner looked at my product, um, they

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:58.760
<v Speaker 1>gave us obvious miss rejections. And what that's what those are, um,

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>they're based off of things that already that are already

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in the database that do something with the bottom of

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the shoe. But it's not really like your product. So

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we had to go back and forth with her for

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like six months. And that's and you're paying, they're paying out,

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>but you're fighting and you're not even quitting because most

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>people probably would have been like, oh, I forget it. Yeah,

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and this I think maybe that was even almost four

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>years into even starting just everything just in general, and

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point when you're in so far with that,

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>forget the money and certain things. It's just like my

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>time and I know what this what? I know what

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 1>my product does, I know how it works? Why is

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 1>it this hard? I just didn't understand. And I would

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>have like moments while I would just break down and

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>sunk up my whole week honestly just thinking like I

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. Why is it's not gonna work? Um? Why

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>can't patent just go through. I'm failing this over here,

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Like is it ever going to happen? Like I just

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 1>felt I stopped so much in my life at the time,

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is gonna be my a game.

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>This is what I'm going with and it was just

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>not working out, and I just thought, what am I

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>going to do if this doesn't go? Wow? And that's

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 1>a long journey, because we're in two thousand twenty two,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine, and two thousand nine. Was was that

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the first date that check you put it on the

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the shoe? Yeah? Yeah. So for everybody that's listening,

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 1>if you think about this, that's over ten years of

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>back and forth like basically climbing up the mountain taking

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 1>like ten steps forward and then like falling a couple

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of feet and then you gotta keep your gas burning

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the entire time. That's yeah, that's nuts. And then again

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:49.879
<v Speaker 1>goes back to like what a lot of people say,

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just not overnight over and it's like I would

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>watch I would watch Shark Tank a lot, and you

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>watch that stuff, and like some people are like, damn,

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>they just hit it off overnight. Overnight success. Um didn't

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>really have to put anything into it. They started six

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>months ago, they had their first prototype and prototype and

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>did this and internet, and I was like, how is

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it so simple for them? Like why does this have

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 1>to be so hard? And then somebody at the time

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>was just telling me sometimes great things take time, and

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, yeah, I get that, but I wanted

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>down like what about now, Like I don't want the

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>time for that? But it honestly has. It has made

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>me who I am today because from those times where

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I just thought I'm getting all this bad news, my

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>whole week is messed up. I don't want to hear it.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I have taken those moments and groomed myself into Okay,

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>if I have a problem, how do I fix it? What?

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Instead of blowing up being braddy about it? Okay, what's

0:48:59.880 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the steps to fix it? It can't be fixed, how

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>do we go around it? All right? Pushing to the side,

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:10.399
<v Speaker 1>What what do we do about it? Um? And if

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I was the same person that I was back then,

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like having fits and headaches and um, like crying a lot,

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>like just boo hoo, Like I just I wouldn't have

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the company that I have right now being that person.

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 1>So my companies have grow me into a better woman,

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a better entrepreneur, two actually run the business how it

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>should be. Yeah, I mean, I have so much appreciation

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>for you and I say it all the time, and

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so easy to fall in love with people

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>like on this show because it's just like hearing that

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>journey is like it's crazy that that's a crazy journey.

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.760
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's funny because you look at a product

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like shoot coming, it's just like this product that like

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>literally saves you know, saves and comforts you and helps

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you so much, and it's it's you have to think

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 1>so far out of the box to get to it,

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.840
<v Speaker 1>but then to think of the journey of it. It

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>definitely has been a journey is still as a journey.

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>But even if I was on the outside looking and

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you would look at this like that's nothing to make

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>what did you possibly need to do that or this

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.720
<v Speaker 1>or whatever? And it just it it took a lot

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:43.919
<v Speaker 1>of research, development time, tears fallouts on the ground, Like

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:48.760
<v Speaker 1>but I had to ask though, like do you remember

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>to two memories? I would like to just know like

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>what was going on, Like was like when you got

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>your patent approved and officially past lab testing, and then

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>your first sale, like your first sale of somebody you

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>did not know, Like it was like, oh so when

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.720
<v Speaker 1>my patent got approved, it was like a weight lifted

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 1>off my shoulder. I felt like, Okay, this that's not it,

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's going in the right direction. Like I feel

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>like that that push, that's something that more that I

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.919
<v Speaker 1>felt like I needed to give me like some reassurance

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that this is gonna work. Um. And then that first sale,

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:39.959
<v Speaker 1>I um, honestly, when I pushed that button to open sales, UM,

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I had my phone on and UM, I was recording

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:48.240
<v Speaker 1>myself and I kid you not. As like sales started

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to come in and come As sales started to come in,

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I was freaking out. I was bawling crying. I'm just like,

0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, Like what am I gonna do? Like

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>what am I selling? Like? Are they gonna like it? Like?

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>What is what is going to happen? Like are they

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>going to know what to do? Are they going to

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>put it on correctly? Like what are they going to

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>say about it? I'm like literally freaking out because it's

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>not like a lip loss like loke csses is done

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:19.479
<v Speaker 1>like a thousand and a thousand million times somebody buys

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a lift class they either like the color they put

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 1>it on, you know, but this is something that it

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been done. It's the first of its kind, and

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I just I couldn't just I was I don't know,

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I was speaking out. It's crazy that you thought, after

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you did all these years of research and everything, that

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>you still had that little bit of like possible self doubt,

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Like is it you know, we talked about it before,

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 1>like imposter syndrome with like um the Ceover Vault. He

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>had mentioned that He's like, there's this thing called imposter

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>syndrome because I'm like, yo, sometimes I can make it

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to the top and then I feel like, damn uh,

0:52:57.840 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 1>are they going to realize who I really am? Something?

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 1>You like, am I good enough to be here? Or

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. I definitely had my instances where I feel

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that way because just in general, my my product is

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:15.320
<v Speaker 1>still newer on the market, so I am scaling pretty fast.

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:19.799
<v Speaker 1>But it's also like that that voice in the back

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of my head like are we really gonna do this?

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Like is this really like how we're gonna go? Like

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.359
<v Speaker 1>is it really gonna work? Is it gonna be like

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 1>a big booming sales is gonna dwindle down? Is it

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be a fad for something? Um? But um.

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>One thing that always reassures me is the reviews that

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I get from like a lot of my customers, and

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>the thank yous that I get from them. Or how

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>this one lady in particular, UM, it always sticks out

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in my mind. She had foot or ankle surgery or

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>something and she had to get pins in her ankle

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and she was not able to wear high heels. Um

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 1>after doing that, and she purchased the product and she

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>was able to wear high he was again with wearing

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>my product on the bottom of hers shoes. Wow, that's amazing. Well,

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact, I'm getting it. I'm I'm

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>getting me some piers because I have a nice layer

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of dust on it. Nice there. And it's always expensive shoes.

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 1>It's never like my cheap shoes. It's like, that's the thing.

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 1>It's so sad. A lot of ladies hit me with that,

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, we we buy these shoes, whether they're

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>cheap or expensive or whatever, and we want to wear them.

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 1>We want to look good in them. So if my

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<v Speaker 1>product is giving you an extra hour like, girl, put

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<v Speaker 1>them shoes on. Hell yeah, like even it's only worth

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the investment. Um always so Asia. Um. Like when we're

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.240
<v Speaker 1>going out of something and she's like, um, well should

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<v Speaker 1>I bring this or should I wear that? I'm like,

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 1>are you better wear that stuff? It's just in the closet.

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<v Speaker 1>Put that stuff on? Yeah, I mean you buy it

0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to wear it. You want to look good, That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I want those people. I'll buy a product and first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, it will be in my house like less

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<v Speaker 1>than ten minutes. I'll be like, let's change it to that,

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then I like destroy it, you know,

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>because I'll rock it so it looks like dead. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, that's the new stuff coming. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if i'll wear at all. Well, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming and teaching me a dish that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>promise you. I assure you, Miss Jackson, You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I will never ever. You won't even see me nibble

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<v Speaker 1>on that thing. And I'm gonna make everybody in the

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<v Speaker 1>squad try this. You gotta try one, because I'm meant

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 1>even know him before I leave. This thing is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm just saying, you have to have a quiet

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<v Speaker 1>taste um and you you know what, you have great

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>taste clearly just just in the food area. You know

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.479
<v Speaker 1>I've got great tastes and food I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope to never ever be so down

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<v Speaker 1>and out or just even in a vicinity where called

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 1>eggs is like my only option because it's just I

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 1>think everything else is great. Just just one and done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll show you you will never even finished that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. It's I just want to describe for all

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<v Speaker 1>your listeners. It's like a hard egg. It tastes vinegree

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<v Speaker 1>which the taste I can get past. It's the texture

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<v Speaker 1>and just I'm just not rocking it like I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna rock some shoegummies. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for your time. Shout out to our listeners. Definitely check

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<v Speaker 1>out where can we check you out, follow up with you,

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and keep up with you so you can check me out.

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<v Speaker 1>On Instagram is um Miss Jackson as m I S. S. Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>and my bio is pretty much all my companies tag

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<v Speaker 1>Shoe Gummy, Fancy Good, Cheek Beauty UM and website as

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<v Speaker 1>well on TikTok Miss Jackson Double O seven. So catch

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<v Speaker 1>me there as well, and yeah, all right, piece out y'all.

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