1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen What, and today we have entrepreneur 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: and inventor, Miss Chantelle Jackson's in the building, also known 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: as Miss Jackson. That's how we always we call you, 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Miss Jackson, and then we go Sean tell Jackson, Yes, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Miss jack smithy nasty? Yes, yeah, yeah, either way, either way, 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: you know what the Miss Jackson is. Of course, Jackson 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: is my last name. But ever since Outcasts came out 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: with that song, I think I was like fourteen fifteen, 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: and in school even the teachers were in on it, 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: like it was roll called during like the announcements or 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: um throughout the day, and when my name was called, 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: everybody would go, I'm just like, it's just like a 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: part of I don't know who I am. I don't know. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: It's always been hilarious to me, but I am Miss Jackson. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good. It's like kind of started you 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: with a brand before you. I think it did. I 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: think it did. It was just I can't help that 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: is my last name, but it just came with something 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: and it just pivoted me into yes Jackson, Miss Jackson. Well, 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: what do you have us eating, Miss Jackson. So I 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: have some good old fashion I guess you would say 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: some Country Bama pickled eggs. Um. And it's pretty much 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: nothing but vinegar, some spices, some red die and some eggs. 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: I've never ever seen this. So when you mentioned pickled eggs, 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know if you had, like a sandwich bag. Well, 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know what. I didn't know what. She said, 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: pickled eggs. I said what, Yeah, so it already comes 29 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: like this. And when I was little, Um, we used 30 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: to go to the corner store or the candy ladies house. Um, 31 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: if we lived in apartments at the time and asked 32 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: for a pickle egg and maybe at the time it 33 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: was maybe twenty cents or a quarter. And where are 34 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: you from Miami? Oh, you're from Miami, they were, they 35 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: were selling pickled eggs in Miami. Yeah, okay, So where 36 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: do you get these out here? You can't get these 37 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: out here. I ordered these online to be here. So 38 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: you're a real pickled eggs man. I am. I can't 39 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: even say the last time you ate this was you 40 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: was broke. You just attached to the pickled eggs. I'm 41 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: attached at the hip to the pickled eggs. Honestly, it 42 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: would even get worse than this back home. But now 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm a vegetarian, so I'm still safe with the egg 44 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: the pickled eggs. Um. But I used to eat the 45 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: hot sausage with the pork or the pickle pig feed like, yeah, 46 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: it was bad. Yeah, okay, well let's try these. Can 47 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: we try these? Are we clear before we? Uh? Yeah? Okay, good, 48 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Let's try some pickled eggs. Now, I've never had pickled 49 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: eggs before. Guys, So if my face does all these 50 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: like expressions, don't mind me because like an expression girl 51 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: like I have a million wrinkles dedicated to me before 52 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I hit for it. I reco my face too much. 53 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: But let's try these, and thank you for sharing this. 54 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Like delicate? Was it? Like I said, this is like 55 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: a Southern delicacy? Yeah? Right, it is. To see that's 56 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: the word I was I was looking for because we 57 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: couldn't even get these. She came with these. That's how 58 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: you know what's real? She she had another dishes. She said, 59 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I haven't never seen this in California ever. 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: And how often do you order these? Um? You know what? 61 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: A lot of the time I always have to wait 62 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: till I go home to Miami to get them. So 63 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: this past week I was there for my birthday and 64 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: as soon as I touched down off the plane, UM, 65 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: and I went to the gas station, they had pickled eggs. 66 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: So I was I was getting pickledgg This is interesting. 67 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: So the pickled eggs are red for all your listeners, 68 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: It's like in this jar of juice. Um, So how 69 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: do you get it out? You use a fork? We 70 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: got a fork. So do you if you don't have 71 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: pickled eggs? Do you just naturally like eggs or is 72 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: it just the whole flavor package? I do. I do 73 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: naturally like eggs, but the pickled egg is just something 74 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: just totally different. Or you can use your spoon. Oh yeah, 75 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: that's probably smarter, um, but you can you smell it? 76 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: Do you like vinegar? I mean, I don't know. I'm 77 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: a Jew and a Jamaican. I think I like everything 78 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: from I'm trying that. I think you might like this. Okay, 79 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: So do I should I just try to break it? 80 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Or do I just bite it? How did you just 81 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: pick it up and bite it? Here we go, don't 82 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: mind the faces. Everybody here like cheers cheers. Here we go. 83 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: Oh it's hard. I thought it was gonna be soft. 84 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: It's not that bad. I was expecting softness. It's hard. 85 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: M hmm. I was gonna be soft from it from 86 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: minting than this juice. And I cooked it. It cooks 87 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: it like that. Well one day, boil them first, but 88 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: then you know, still with a boiled eggs, still soft, 89 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: but the juice gets it too. This I'm not gonna lie, 90 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Miss Jackson. This is it. This is an acquired I mean, 91 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: you had to have been broke to be eating knees. 92 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know. I'm gonna make our crew 93 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: try it, because sometimes we have stuff on this show 94 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: where I'm like, I'm gonna have to get any shout 95 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: out to Jared. Jared, you ready to try this? No? Okay, 96 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: m hm yeah, this is no fuiretae. I'm sorry. I 97 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: give you kudos for this. Give me Ms Jackson, give 98 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: me kudos for this because this is a once in 99 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: a lifetime one and done for me. Yeah, you're from 100 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm from New York. You're from New York. Oh yes, 101 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's h's not New York thing? 102 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: You know? There for everybody like, you guys, gotta just 103 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: try this one time. It's definitely like if you like vinegar, 104 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: vinegar person, I love vinegar. Yeah, we just we just 105 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: had a guest on that likes vinegar too, Like I 106 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: put vinegar on everything. She would have loved this. You 107 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: had heard could have had a vinegar vinegar fast. Yeah. 108 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: So what was going on at the time when you 109 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: were eating pickled eggs. I'm gonna keepna I'm gonna eat 110 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: the whole egg. By the way, you got it's still protein. 111 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: Can never again. This is this is what and done. 112 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: But what was going on when you were eating pickled 113 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: egg yolks? Mean when I was younger? Um, I love 114 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: to eat this just in general, but to continue to 115 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: eat it, Um, it's a it's a taste for me. 116 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: It's nostalgic for me. Um, it's what I grew up eating. 117 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Walking to the corner store. That was even a thing 118 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: being young, walking to the corner store, or even before 119 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: school started, we walked to the corner store, got um 120 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: chips and hot sausage or pickled eggs. But you saw 121 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: like candy now later chips, the little twinkies in the package. 122 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: You said, oh, those eggs those eggs are calling my name. 123 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I need a pickle egg. I needed pockletic. Um. Yeah, 124 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the whole world learned something. 125 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think I think anyone would ever say, okay, 126 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: miss Jackie, she's kicking back some eggs. Yeah I don't. Yeah, 127 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: people will probably look at me and think, yeah, she's 128 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: not eating that. No, when when I look at you, 129 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, she's fit. You know, you're physically beautiful, 130 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: So okay, she's probably eating all these I have no idea, 131 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: maybe sushi or something. Then you show but pickled eggs 132 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: as like a favorite thing that you're ordering through the mail. 133 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm like proud. It's like where I come from. It's 134 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: like it's like part of when people look at me, 135 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: they just pretty face and um, maybe nothing really behind it. 136 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: But it is a lot more to that. Um, it's 137 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: not just a pretty face. Um. But a lot of 138 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: people don't know how I grew up either. I mean 139 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I had seven eight nine year old Um, I was 140 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: getting in the house before my mom, making sure my 141 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: siblings were um doing their homework or babe before she 142 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: got home. Um, and she went she worked a job 143 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: and then she did uh night school as well. Was 144 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: she a single parent? Um? Single parents? My father? Um, 145 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: my father I think was in prison until I was 146 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: about ten or eleven years old. Um, but yep, single 147 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: parents getting home um late, having to cook for us sometimes. 148 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: And then even with that, I felt bad that my 149 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: mom had to come home and cook for us. So 150 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: I started cooking at a young age, just simple things. 151 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Or I would see her making like simple meals like 152 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the beans and the rice, and um, all I can 153 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: make that. So trying to cook these certain things before 154 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: she even got home, UM made me feel good that 155 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: she didn't have to do this extra stuff because she's 156 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: busting her ass all day and the night to provide 157 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: a better life for us. Were you the oldest of 158 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: your siblings? Um? Yeah, that we're living in the household. Wow. 159 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: So um it was me, and then I had two 160 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: younger sisters and then two cousins living living with us 161 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: at the time. So wow, that's cool that you looked 162 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: out for your mom like that. Though. That's really cool. 163 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it. It made me. It helped shape 164 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: me into who I am today, just with UM, loving 165 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: my family, loving where I came from, UM, loving how 166 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: she raised me or looking out for my siblings just 167 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: how I had to or just wanted to because I 168 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't have to. Um, mind you. But it's like when 169 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: you have family and you you love and you look 170 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: at your family a certain way, like you want to 171 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: look out for them. You want them to, UM be 172 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: good at the end of the day. Yeah, I understand it. 173 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: So where did like entrepreneurship hit your Like when did 174 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: it hit your radar? Um? You know what entrepreneurship it 175 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: just it just came naturally. So when I was younger, 176 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: just in general, UM, I love the glitz and the 177 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: glam of um being an actress or Hollywood m movies, 178 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: modeling so UM. I went to a television production UM 179 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: high school. So I learned like a lot of the 180 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of filming or writing scripts and things 181 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: like that. UM. And I also like went to like 182 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: a little modeling school when I was younger. UM. But 183 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: along with those things, I was always obsessed with, UM 184 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: clothes or high heels, your shoe collections. Crazy. That's It's 185 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: like I call it a good bad habit if that 186 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. UM. So every since I can remember, 187 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: I was wearing high heels or my mom would let 188 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: me wear high heels. Since I was like fourteen fifteen, 189 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: I've been wearing high hills. Now, were you one of 190 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: those girls that were like the only one in the 191 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: school wearing heels or was everybody wearing heels in your school? 192 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: She was in Miami, right, so yeah, but I think 193 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: around my generation, they were still into those sneakers, Like 194 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: I would wear the sneakers and stuff like that, but 195 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: I was still like want to rock my little platforms 196 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: and being a little different and stuff. But I've always 197 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: been like that, which is shoes with my shoes. Like 198 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: trying to remember. So, were you doing like entrepreneurial type 199 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: stuff in high school or yeah? So in high school, well, 200 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: I started middle school, middle school, the high school, Um, 201 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: I was selling UH chips and juice, honey buns candy. 202 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: So I would go to school with a big bag 203 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: um like a mini Duffel bag, and I would freeze 204 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: the juices um at night before I went to school, 205 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: take them out, and in the morning people begin their 206 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: juices and their honey buns for me or throughout class. 207 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes I would get in trouble because people be 208 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: knocking on my door or like homeroom likes Jackson in 209 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: here t sh would be like if you don't get 210 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: out of here, um, but like coming to get chips 211 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: or candy or juice. Uh So yeah, that was You 212 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: just made me realize that that was like the start 213 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: of my entrepreneurial and what we're using the money for, 214 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: um for school stuff. Um My mom pretty much had 215 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: to provide for me and my sisters, um my, my 216 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: two cousins. And it was things that I wanted that 217 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: she really didn't have the money to get me. So 218 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: if I wanted to go on the field trip or 219 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: get extra things for school, I was making this money 220 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: with selling this stuff in school to provide myself with 221 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: what I wanted pretty much like even for prom or 222 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: um high school events and stuff like that. The money 223 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: didn't have to come out of her pockets. So and 224 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: it felt it made me. It made me feel good 225 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: that I was making my own money to buy the 226 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: stuff that I wanted at the end of the day. Yeah, Now, 227 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: when I was growing up at school, we were we 228 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: were definitely poor. We didn't ask our parents for anything. 229 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: But if you were poor in my school, you got 230 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: made fun up. They was like scrub especially with TLC 231 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: dropped the most scrubs you have made for the bed 232 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: if we didn't have like the cool kicks and all 233 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. So did you have to experience that or 234 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: did you did? Are you making enough money to like 235 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: be like, here's my one pair of good shoes to 236 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: ride you know what? UM? I didn't really experience that. 237 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: And I feel like in a sense like kids maybe 238 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: picked on kids that they knew that they could pick 239 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: on because I didn't have the best of things. UM, 240 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: But I didn't have the worst of things either. UM. 241 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: I still had like my little things here and there, 242 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: my my father, UM, when he did get out of prison, 243 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: UM was able to, you know, help out some and 244 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I had a pair of Nikes 245 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: or um, some Pumas or some I think when I 246 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: was younger, some uh Sconi's if I'm not mistaken, but 247 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: that still UM, I still UM, I didn't have everything 248 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I wanted. Like kids was walking, kids were rocking on 249 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: peppal or Fu Boo or Sean John, um, things like that, 250 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: and I definitely couldn't afford that. So I mean off 251 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: label clothes, no label clothes. UM. When I got to 252 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: high school, I did wear uniforms so so that that 253 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: did make it easier because you have a uniform and 254 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: which is wore your your playing pants or something like that. Yeah, 255 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: so I watched your social media. I'm a fan of 256 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: yours and we have some mutual friends, so we get 257 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: to cross over a little bit. Um, but I'm a 258 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: fan of yours. You know, you're definitely we've already touched 259 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: on you know, you're externally beautiful, You're hilarious online. You 260 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: definitely you definitely have your I feel like your your 261 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: funny side is definitely showcased on your social media. But 262 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: when I see you know what called my attention was 263 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: you have the shoegummies And I know that process was 264 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: this process wasn't your typical like when you see um, 265 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: you know celebrities, they'll do like endorsement deals or or 266 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, like they and I'm not negating anybody's work 267 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: or anything, but it's more of a sign on. But 268 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: in your case, you invented something to help aide your 269 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: shoe I'm your shoe collection. I yeah, pretty much my 270 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: shoe collection. What was the process like to like, were 271 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: you finding a did you find a problem and then 272 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: realized there was no solution? And then you went to 273 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: invention mode. Yeah, pretty much. So honestly, just with having 274 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: my own obsession with high hills, wearing them day in 275 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: and day out, I was already on the search for 276 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: finding something that would help them be more comfortable and everything. 277 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: At the time, I think maybe there were some foot 278 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: creams um which absolutely don't do anything, or inserts shoe 279 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: the shoe inserts for the ball of the foot, and 280 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: those It absolutely nothing to me. Uh So I just 281 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: particularly had my Aha moment one day and just thought, well, 282 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: if things go in the shoe and they don't do anything, 283 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: or if they do go in the shoe, they can 284 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: make the shoe tighter or slip around. Yeah, I was like, well, 285 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: what stops me from maybe putting something on the outside bottom? 286 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I have more room here and um, this 287 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: can to me do more good than something going inside. 288 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: So at the time I took one pair of shoe 289 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: to my shoe, a pair of guy at the time, 290 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: and I asked him how much rubber or material can 291 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: I put on the bottom of the shoe so I 292 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: can um still walk in it, and um it's uh, 293 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: it's still wearable. He put um like a quarter of 294 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: an inch thick of rubber on the bottom of the shoe. 295 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: I picked up like a week later. Um, I wore 296 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: it that night, and I kid you not, I was 297 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: amazed at how this little piece of rubber that he 298 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: put under the shoe really changed the dynamic of the 299 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: depths that I was taken in the shoe from when 300 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: they didn't have the product on there and I was 301 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: taking my shoes twenty and thirty pair to him. Um 302 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: after that, so he can put extra rober at the 303 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: bottom because it didn't make that money. So you realize 304 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: you can't put something in the shoe, But what made 305 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: you think? I just can't imagine how you thought that far? 306 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: So like literally think and it's genius because if you 307 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: think about it, like what is it? You're offsetting the 308 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: balance back onto the heel of the shoes that so 309 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: what happens is it um it can tilt your foot 310 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: and the shoe back slightly and it'll take a lot 311 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: of that pressure off the balls of the feet and 312 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: even in some instances it redistributes some of that pressure 313 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: more evenly across the foot on putting um um more 314 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: pressure on the heel as well. UM. Normally, when we 315 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: wear high heels, it's over our body weight on the 316 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: balls of our feet. So that's like one of the 317 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: bigger issues. So now you have all this weight on 318 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: the balls of your feet, which are going to make 319 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: your your toes um hurt faster, the balls of your feet, 320 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: um and all of that. So that's where I come 321 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: into play with shoegumm me and it does take the 322 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: pressure off. Um. I feel like it makes me walk 323 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: more confidently because when I wear heels, UM, the best 324 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: way that I can describe it is like a forward feeling. 325 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: And it's like when you put your heels on and 326 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: you're shifted this way. So with my product, now your 327 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: weight is shifted back into a more comfortable stance. That 328 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: makes sense, Yeah, instead of that forward feeling. And I 329 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: feel like, um, a lot of women wear heels and 330 00:20:53,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: they're constantly it's on like a tilt forward and um 331 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: that's it's it's uncomfortable. Yeah, I UM. I'm starting to 332 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: get a small shoe collection, you know, I do one 333 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: shoe at a time. I'll splurge you like once every 334 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: couple of months. By the way, we have to there 335 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: was a shoe cam. You need a shoe camp because 336 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: her shoes are so fired today. Um, you definitely have 337 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: to start get a shoe cam for sure. Yeah, yeah, 338 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: your shoes are these are beautiful red boots. But I 339 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: so I went into the store the other day. I 340 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: think I had seen like St. Laurent or something. It 341 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: was cute, these cute little shoes with a little s 342 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: and on the phone, and I tried those things on 343 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: it and things hurt so bad, and I was like, yeah, 344 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: there's a fly. But man, like if I go because 345 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing this some festival in New York, and so 346 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'll just wear this on during 347 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: the festival, like I would literally have to have them 348 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: in my bag and just wear them while sitting. And 349 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: then I was like, I'm not spending you know, I think, 350 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: oh even yeah, I thought yeah, but I was I'm 351 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: not dropping that much for her shoes that I can't 352 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: even wear for like three seconds. And I've done that 353 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: before where I've dropped that much and they collect dust 354 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: in my closet because I'm like, I can't ever wear 355 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: it again. And so that particular shoe that you're talking about, 356 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: a lot of ladies come to me complaining about that 357 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: shoe in particular, and I literally just did a post 358 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: about it. Um. I saw the comments on it too. 359 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: They were going in and nothing you can do to 360 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: fix that shoe, Like so many people complain about that 361 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: shoe and then like some people are like, well why 362 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: do you even pay that much? And you know that 363 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: she was uncomfortable. And I think with heels just in general, 364 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: like the pain that we get from wearing the heels 365 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: is the price of this beauty. But with my product, 366 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: I I helped with that pretty much. Um, someone else 367 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: just did a post with that wire sell shoe. Her 368 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: shoe literally had dust in the shoe. You can see 369 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: the dust in the video on the shoe and she 370 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: put the gummies on the bottom, and um, she did 371 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of crazy stuff in the video, 372 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: like um doing the Megan nostalgia needs or can I 373 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: swallow Mende now? Like it was a really good video, 374 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: but um, that shoot in particularly it is definitely, um 375 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: a killer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I think I 376 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: want to start leaning towards like Fendi or something because 377 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: Benny has some comfortable shoe. I think every brand can 378 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: have some comfortable shoes. Is just like those certain ones 379 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: are just really uncomfortable, and a lot of women don't 380 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: factor certain things also with heels that they just think 381 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: going out the gate, I'm aware of five in chill 382 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: and I'm aware this all night and is this and no, 383 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of factors when it comes to high heels. 384 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: That you have flat feet, um, even the length of 385 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: your legs is well, like do you normally walking hills? Um? 386 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Have you ever walked into five in shield? Four? And 387 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: sheeld three and schill? Um. It's just a lot of 388 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: factors when it comes out. I would not even think 389 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: about those questions. I just go and I'm like today, 390 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: i wanna look sexy from my husband, So I'm gona. 391 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look cool and figure out how to walk 392 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: in them later. Yeah, the the endstep, the height of 393 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the hill. I can go on and on about a 394 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: pair of shoes and what can be more comfortable and 395 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: what to stay away from, like do you um uh 396 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: like a pointed shoe? Though, so Kates, you know what 397 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: those are? The Christian Lubertan's Oh yeah, you mean the 398 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: ones that come to a point. Yeah. Yeah, I don't 399 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: have a bother. I don't even bother. Yeah. Some people 400 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: buy um, some ladies buy my product and they think 401 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: that shoegummies helped with the point of the shoe, and 402 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, baby, no, Like I'm just trying to 403 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: help with the pressure on the ball at your feet. 404 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: But if you want to cram your feet in this point, 405 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: you gotta do with that all on your own. So yeah, 406 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: Now in those cases, are they supposed to buy the 407 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: shoes bigger so it doesn't go to the point. I mean, 408 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: you have to really know what size to buy that 409 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: shoe in, because one, you don't want it flapping off 410 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: everybody too big, But then you don't want it too 411 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: tight because your feet already crammed in that pointed style. 412 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Now do you see shoe gummies as the beginning of 413 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: other because there's so many pressure points, Like when I 414 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: wear heels. I don't wear a lot of heels anymore, 415 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: but when I wear heels, like there's you know, the 416 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: side the what is that the corns I don't know 417 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: if I'm using the right terms, but ends or whatever, 418 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, you know, like this side right here? 419 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's why that can be 420 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: the bunny in. Yeah, So like, are you going to 421 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: start doing because the gummies are like, I feel like 422 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the gummies are just the beginning. Especially when you talk 423 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: you're like a shoe. Yeah, like you're like, I'm all 424 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: about my foothealth. Honestly, when when my feet are good 425 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: and I'm out and about, um, I'm mixing and mingland. 426 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to worry about my feet. I feel 427 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: like if if, if my feet hurt, and I think 428 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people who wear heels can contest for this. 429 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: You're just not in the mood to do anything. You 430 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: don't want to talk. I'm gonna just sit down over 431 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: here till it's time to go, and um, that's not 432 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: what I want to deal with when I'm and I'm 433 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: out and I'm wearing my heels like, I want to 434 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: wear them. I want to show them, I want to 435 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: walk around. So yeah, so kind of stepping back a 436 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: little bit. Um, so you take your twenty thirty pairs 437 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: of shoes and you start adding this rubber layer. This 438 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: is the the pre gummy, the pre gummy. At what 439 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: point do you say, Okay, I want to invest more time, 440 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: energy and money into actually making this brand. Yeah, so 441 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: I came up with shoegum me or the first idea 442 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: of it in twenty oh nine. See, that was a 443 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: long time ago, so I didn't think to make it 444 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: a consumer product until about um, I would say maybe 445 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: six seven years ago now. Um. But having that moment 446 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: or those thoughts, I just thought to myself, well, I 447 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: know what the product does, and I wear it. And 448 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: probably at the time I had a few friends maybe 449 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: going to get the rubber put on the bottom of 450 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: their shoes, so they knew how it worked. So after 451 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: knowing you, they got it. Yeah. So then then this 452 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: isn't like you're selling it. They were just like, oh, 453 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: what are you doing the last thirty hours? And you 454 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: were like shoe gummy. You were like this place. They 455 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: would complain about their shoes and I would just sell them, well, 456 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: send the shoe over here and they'll do this too it. 457 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: And they were rave about it because they wouldn't be 458 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: able to um where maybe it was a shoe that 459 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: they had war for an hour, couldn't wear it pass 460 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: an hour. It was just insane crazy. Put the um 461 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: the gummy at the time what it was on the 462 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: bottom and they were able to wear the shoe the 463 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: whole night. So it really made that much of a 464 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: difference and UM up until six seven years ago, I 465 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: started to think, well, maybe I need to hone in 466 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: on this, like to make it a consumer product, Like 467 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: how do I do that? Because at the time the 468 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: shower pair guy had to do it for me. So 469 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: now I just started. I had to start thinking, all right, 470 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: what do I have to do to make this a 471 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: product that people can put on at home? So what 472 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: was that next step? Like, well, first, before all of that, 473 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I found me a patent lawyer. Okay, okay, okay, yeah, 474 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: all right, So I found a patent lawyer and UM 475 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: pretty much started the paperwork with him, UM with following 476 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: my patent application. UM. And what we had to do 477 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: first was, UM, I think, look into the US database, 478 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: the patent database, and do UM uh to look if 479 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: anything on the market was like this. And I was 480 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: already telling him absolutely not because I would be using it. 481 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: So before that, yeah, so before UM before still before then, 482 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: he was just like, we have to do it anyways. 483 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: Then moving forward from that, we started my UM my 484 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: patent application and UM. While that was getting done, UM, 485 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: I found a cat designer and UM a cat designer 486 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: is someone who can UM digitally digitally make UM the 487 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: product in the computer, and um, from there, um we 488 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: came up with like the first with the first gummy 489 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: looked like it looked like honestly, not with this is today. 490 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: It looked like a little tadpole, like I had a 491 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: little a tail coming up the shoe. And then like 492 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: as I started to do more research and develop the product, 493 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: um detail went away and then like the product got 494 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: bigger and what it is now. So so for everyone 495 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: time frame wise, you're so you start in two thousand 496 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: and nine, you don't start actually making it into the 497 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: brand until like six seven years ago. So we could 498 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: see like this is a long journey now where you 499 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: like but I say, like losing a risky amount of 500 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: money trying to invest in this thing, or where you like, 501 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: like was it uncomfortable getting into the space? Was there 502 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: a part of you that was like risk scared or 503 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: risk confidence? Like where was it that the honestly, the 504 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: the I did put a great deal of money into 505 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: post launch, but that wasn't a scary part. The scary 506 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: part was just being a new product. And um, I 507 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: knew how it worked and what it did. My friends 508 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: knew or some of them knew how it worked, and 509 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: what it did. But was the the world going to 510 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: respond to my product the way that I knew it? 511 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: How can I say it? Were they going to respond 512 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: to it the way that I I think they should, 513 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: if that makes sense? And then you were also, I'm 514 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: sure like trying to figure out how do you market it? No? Yeah, 515 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: so then that was the thing also, um, like what 516 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: do I do or what do I say? Or how 517 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: how do I market it? But I think just as 518 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: time went on, it just became easier because it just 519 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: became easy. Um, because it's part of my lifestyle. High 520 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: heels is what I know. High heels is what I do. 521 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: I like what people say, I eat sleep ship, whatever 522 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: I eat sleep ship, high heels I could tell because 523 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: you're like, you have to know how long the leg is? 524 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: And so I'm curious. I have flat feet, Not that 525 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the whole world needs to know this, but what am 526 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: I allowed to wear heels? So you, of course you're 527 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 1: allowed to wear heels. My sister, one of my sisters, 528 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: she has flat feet, and um, she would wear high heels, wouldn't. 529 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: She would always complain about um they heard or they 530 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: already started hurting out an hour or so, But um, 531 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: she was one of the first people to test the 532 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: actual consumer made products UM, and she raves about them. 533 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: And with having flat feet, what happens is, Um, since 534 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: you have less of an arch in your foot, the 535 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: foot puts even more pressure on the balls of your feet. 536 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: Oh snap. So yeah, So with my product and its 537 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: alleviating some of that pressure, it does help you wear 538 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: your high hills longer because it's taking some of that 539 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: pressure off. Yeah. Now with flat feet, does that cause 540 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: your ankle to roll more? Is that? Does that? What 541 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: would that make that more difficult? Um? No, I wouldn't 542 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: say we'll make it roll more. UM. With HIO is 543 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: just in general, Um, we're putting more pressure on our knees, 544 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: our ankles, and the bottom and the bottoms of our feet. 545 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: So so it sounds like for all y'all flat footers, 546 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: you'll need this really bad. Yeah. I do get a 547 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: lot of customers who who have flat feet omni acts, 548 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: will it help and stuff like that. So where do 549 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: people buy the actual product? Like if I want to 550 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: go and buy and now, and do we have to 551 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: buy one per pairchue or so it is, um, one 552 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: per pair of shoe. They aren't transferable or reusable and 553 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: that's for safety reasons. I mean, like we have a 554 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: certain adhesive to stick to the bottom of the shoe, 555 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: and if it's yield up or that seal is broken, 556 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: then you can't really reuse it and put it on 557 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: another shoe. So it is one pair per shoe, okay, 558 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: And then what is the price point of these UM? 559 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: So for one pair is thirty five dollars, for two 560 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: pair UM like a bulk UM is sixty five and 561 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: then for like a three a three pack or three 562 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: pair is ninety dollars UM. And we also this is 563 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: black and we have tan, and then we also just 564 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: launched red for those ladies who have UM. Now where 565 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: do where do people buy them? Online? Online? So I 566 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: have my own online e commerce and that's the only 567 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: place where they can be purchased as of right now. 568 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: So are you looking to get distribution in retail? UM? 569 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: I feel like once I get more UM notoriety, more notoriety, 570 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: more awareness of the brand, than I do want to 571 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: branch off and get into stores. Because if someone's buying 572 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: a shoe that day, then it's even more of a 573 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: thing to go into the store or that same store 574 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: and be able to buy a pair of gummies too, 575 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: where or put on that shoe that night. I would 576 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: think because it's it's it's a nominal investment. So like 577 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: if you go into the store, you're buying a thousand 578 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: dollar pair of shoes, it makes sense to just But 579 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: in the case of I guess for right now, I'm 580 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: just gonna go online and just stock up. You know, 581 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to stock up. You Um, what an 582 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: amazing journey that is. Now do you want to just 583 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: permanently stay in the shoe game? You thought about designing shoes? 584 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: You know what? Before this was even a thought, Like 585 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: I always thought, like, you know, I want to be 586 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: an actress, I want to be a model. Um, I 587 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: love shoes. I want to be a shoe designer. So, UM, 588 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: being a shoe designer has always been in the back 589 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: of my mind. But with having my product, it's, um, 590 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: it's something that's a reoccurring thought, if if that makes sense, 591 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: because I deal with this every day. I damn never 592 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: wear it every day. Um, but you know, just in 593 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: general foot health. UM, adding on to the shoe gummy 594 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: brand is something that I want to do as well. 595 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: But I definitely want to get into designing shoes high heels. 596 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be just high heels. So 597 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: for people that will look and obviously not hearing this interview, 598 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: because after hearing this interview, it doesn't sound like this 599 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: journey was easy. Um. What is a day in the 600 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: life of you as an entrepreneur? Now that you've invented 601 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: the product, you know what, it has been easier now, 602 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: I would say so up until like a few months ago, UM, 603 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: I was processing orders. So at the top of the year, 604 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: I was wanting to have more UM give give UM. 605 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: At the top of the year, I wanted to have 606 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: like UM the brand UM be pushed with a lot 607 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: of social media presence, with brand awareness, UM pushing that 608 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: out so people know what the product is, how it works, 609 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff, and UM with being more 610 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: vocal on TikTok. TikTok just took it and like spun 611 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: it around and I was getting orders like left and right. 612 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: TikTok is like a whole another ball game. UM. So 613 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: at one point I was processing over three thousand orders 614 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: just with this company at home by myself. Wow. So 615 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: you were definitely working like a long like ten hour days. 616 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: I would assumeer. Yeah, UM, Like I would have moments 617 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: where I'm processing, it's coming to the end, and then 618 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: maybe I get a little break and then I come 619 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: back it's like a few hundred more orders to like get, 620 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, rolling and all that other stuff. It definitely 621 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: it was a blessing. It is a blessing for sure. UM. 622 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: So that was my day with like processing orders, UM, emails, UM, 623 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: dealing with UM people's customer service, UM, even social media 624 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: at a certain point, and then I brought in UM 625 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: the girl who works for me now, which she has 626 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: been like a blessing because she picks up all my 627 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: slack with UM. I can't do it all. So if 628 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: you want to get to a certain point when you 629 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: have a business, you can't do it all. And building 630 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: and having the right team around you is definitely needed 631 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 1: because I feel like, UM, if it wasn't for her 632 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: coming UM and stepping in place for me, I wouldn't 633 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: be where I am right now because I can't. I 634 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: couldn't process orders and being social beyond social media and 635 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: run the page how it is and do look at 636 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: emails and my own personal So and then did you 637 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: have to learn e commerce to in addition, like mean, 638 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: when I say e commerce, did you have to learn 639 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: like the digital platform or the tech platform. Um, so 640 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: you were like learning working yep and scaling which is 641 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: extremely tough, and in doing the marketing. Yeah. At the time, um, 642 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: I was getting quotes from like a lot of people 643 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: to like build me a website and do all this 644 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: other stuff logo, and I just thought, you know what, 645 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: maybe let me just take a week and let me 646 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: just see how I can do it in my own. 647 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: So I just sat back there, um through the website 648 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: platform that I'm using, and I pretty much built my 649 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: own website. You wow, look at you. So I'm not 650 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: even gonna lie I would be afraid. But lately I've 651 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: been curious, Like sometimes they even on dealing with the podcast, 652 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: I'll say, I'm curious what st Jared does or what 653 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 1: Katie does. This is my crew. Shoutouts to my crew, 654 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: But I'm always curious, like what they're they're like, I 655 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: guess their perspective and what their work is like, or 656 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: what they see and what they come across. Um. It 657 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: can be very tedious. I mean before even shoegum me, um, 658 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: I was building my brand fancy Goods. I felt like 659 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: this company was was too stagnant at the time, and 660 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: I just needed something like popping off doing something, and 661 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: I like started a lash brand fancy goods. Um. So 662 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: I started with my web designing with that. So then 663 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: when it finally came for me to launch Shogun, me 664 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: already knew like the ins and out of how to 665 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: work all that back there with designing the website, I 666 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: just knew, Okay, what type of pictures do I need? 667 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: What's the verbage? And um, what needs to be said 668 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: to the customer and all this other type of stuff. 669 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: So so I I think I have like one last question. 670 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: So when you're building these brands, how are you getting 671 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: the money to pay for the brands? Are you raising capital? 672 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: Are you getting business loans? Like how do you or 673 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: do you like save money? And then like kind of 674 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to figure out, like how do you 675 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: how does it like how do you go from like 676 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: eating pickled eggs to like two brands? So, um, I 677 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: would say either money that was saved, money I was 678 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: making at the time, UM, money that I was making 679 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: from another business as well, Like you probably rolled the 680 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: money from the last brand into the gummy. I would 681 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: assume right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, so this isn't 682 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: your first rodeo at like e commerce, No, no, no, um, 683 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: it's just at as I built each brand, I knew 684 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: what to do also on what not to do in 685 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: in each stage because with starting with certain things, I 686 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: messed up with a lot um uh, messed up a 687 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: lot of money. Um I knew that. Damn I didn't 688 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: even have to do that then, and now I'm spending 689 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: money on that and now it has to come here. 690 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: So with each company, I knew or started to know, Okay, 691 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna wait to do that, or we're gonna do 692 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: this first, or this and and that. So it's it 693 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: is a learning experience just with having a company, just 694 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: just in general, and you know what to do and 695 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: what not to do and yeah, yeah it's funny. I 696 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: have a love hate relationship with entrepreneurship because when you learn, 697 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: it's like you take it on the check. Like I 698 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: saw this clip like Lauren London had to like you 699 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: get chin checked in life, were on a brand, Like 700 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing that chin checks you more than losing a 701 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: fat check on a mistake that you're like, damn, I 702 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: should have read did that but I promise you ain't 703 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna make that mistake twice. Um. I was literally just 704 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: talking to a friend of mine about like a lot 705 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: of mistakes that I made with developing shogummy at first. 706 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: So when I first had my first um my first prototype, 707 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: I thought that was the end all, be all, This 708 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: is it, this is what we're going to market with. 709 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: And with that prototype, I did um lab testing. So 710 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: I got to um uh lab tested product and what 711 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: that consists of. They had a few ladies who wore 712 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: um the same type of hell with the gummy um 713 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: put on the bottom, and when they did the testing, 714 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: the lab results showed exactly what I knew the product 715 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: did with taking a lot of the pressure off the 716 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: balls of the feet. But on the other back end, 717 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: I failed the stability part of that lab testing, and 718 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: I couldn't go to market with the product. But did 719 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: you already like pressed up a bunch of it or 720 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: thousands of all? So I was like, that's in all 721 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: be all. I did maybe like five thousand pairs of 722 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: these little gummies, just thinking this is it, this is 723 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: why I'm going with It was the wrong type of material, 724 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: because that material didn't stick with any type of adhesive 725 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: I was trying to play with or get to work 726 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: at the time. Um, the product was faulty. It was 727 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: too small, the shape was off, and all this other 728 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: type of stuff. So I had to go back to 729 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: the drawing board and fix what was wrong with the product. 730 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: And luckily the guy who owned a lab testing facility, 731 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: he gave me some pointers on what to do to 732 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: make the product better because what it was doing was 733 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: it was rolling the ankle. So with how the product 734 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: was and the women in the videos walking, you can 735 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: see them walking and their ankles going out like that. 736 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: So I couldn't go to market with a faulty product 737 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: and possibly get a lawsuit or something. So I'm so 738 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: that has been like kind of shattering for you. Yeah, 739 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: because I was thinking, oh, yeah, I'm doing this lab 740 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: testing and it's gonna be good and in a few 741 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: months I'm gonna be on the shelves or I'm gonna 742 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: be selling online. And it was just more of a 743 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: slap in the face. And it was hard because I 744 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: was like, yo, I know what this does. Why is 745 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: it so hard to get this out? Because that wasn't 746 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: the first hurdle. It was before that. It was my 747 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: patent um. With getting my patent, it was two years 748 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: before we even got seen by a patent examiner. And 749 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: when the patent examiner looked at my product, um, they 750 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 1: gave us obvious miss rejections. And what that's what those are, um, 751 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: they're based off of things that already that are already 752 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: in the database that do something with the bottom of 753 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: the shoe. But it's not really like your product. So 754 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: we had to go back and forth with her for 755 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: like six months. And that's and you're paying, they're paying out, 756 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: but you're fighting and you're not even quitting because most 757 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: people probably would have been like, oh, I forget it. Yeah, 758 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: and this I think maybe that was even almost four 759 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: years into even starting just everything just in general, and 760 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: at a certain point when you're in so far with that, 761 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: forget the money and certain things. It's just like my 762 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: time and I know what this what? I know what 763 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: my product does, I know how it works? Why is 764 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 1: it this hard? I just didn't understand. And I would 765 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: have like moments while I would just break down and 766 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: sunk up my whole week honestly just thinking like I 767 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: don't understand. Why is it's not gonna work? Um? Why 768 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: can't patent just go through. I'm failing this over here, 769 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: Like is it ever going to happen? Like I just 770 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: felt I stopped so much in my life at the time, 771 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is gonna be my a game. 772 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: This is what I'm going with and it was just 773 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: not working out, and I just thought, what am I 774 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: going to do if this doesn't go? Wow? And that's 775 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: a long journey, because we're in two thousand twenty two, 776 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, and two thousand nine. Was was that 777 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: the first date that check you put it on the 778 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: bottom of the shoe? Yeah? Yeah. So for everybody that's listening, 779 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: if you think about this, that's over ten years of 780 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: back and forth like basically climbing up the mountain taking 781 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: like ten steps forward and then like falling a couple 782 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: of feet and then you gotta keep your gas burning 783 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: the entire time. That's yeah, that's nuts. And then again 784 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: goes back to like what a lot of people say, 785 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: it's just not overnight over and it's like I would 786 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: watch I would watch Shark Tank a lot, and you 787 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: watch that stuff, and like some people are like, damn, 788 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: they just hit it off overnight. Overnight success. Um didn't 789 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: really have to put anything into it. They started six 790 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: months ago, they had their first prototype and prototype and 791 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: did this and internet, and I was like, how is 792 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: it so simple for them? Like why does this have 793 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: to be so hard? And then somebody at the time 794 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: was just telling me sometimes great things take time, and 795 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I get that, but I wanted 796 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: down like what about now, Like I don't want the 797 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: time for that? But it honestly has. It has made 798 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: me who I am today because from those times where 799 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: I just thought I'm getting all this bad news, my 800 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: whole week is messed up. I don't want to hear it. 801 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: I have taken those moments and groomed myself into Okay, 802 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: if I have a problem, how do I fix it? What? 803 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: Instead of blowing up being braddy about it? Okay, what's 804 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: the steps to fix it? It can't be fixed, how 805 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: do we go around it? All right? Pushing to the side, 806 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: What what do we do about it? Um? And if 807 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: I was the same person that I was back then, 808 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: like having fits and headaches and um, like crying a lot, 809 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: like just boo hoo, Like I just I wouldn't have 810 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 1: the company that I have right now being that person. 811 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: So my companies have grow me into a better woman, 812 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: a better entrepreneur, two actually run the business how it 813 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, I mean, I have so much appreciation 814 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: for you and I say it all the time, and 815 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: it's it's so easy to fall in love with people 816 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: like on this show because it's just like hearing that 817 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: journey is like it's crazy that that's a crazy journey. 818 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's funny because you look at a product 819 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: like shoot coming, it's just like this product that like 820 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: literally saves you know, saves and comforts you and helps 821 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: you so much, and it's it's you have to think 822 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: so far out of the box to get to it, 823 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: but then to think of the journey of it. It 824 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 1: definitely has been a journey is still as a journey. 825 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: But even if I was on the outside looking and 826 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: you would look at this like that's nothing to make 827 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: what did you possibly need to do that or this 828 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 1: or whatever? And it just it it took a lot 829 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: of research, development time, tears fallouts on the ground, Like 830 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 1: but I had to ask though, like do you remember 831 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: to two memories? I would like to just know like 832 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: what was going on, Like was like when you got 833 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: your patent approved and officially past lab testing, and then 834 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: your first sale, like your first sale of somebody you 835 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: did not know, Like it was like, oh so when 836 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,720 Speaker 1: my patent got approved, it was like a weight lifted 837 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: off my shoulder. I felt like, Okay, this that's not it, 838 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: but it's going in the right direction. Like I feel 839 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: like that that push, that's something that more that I 840 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 1: felt like I needed to give me like some reassurance 841 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 1: that this is gonna work. Um. And then that first sale, 842 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:39,959 Speaker 1: I um, honestly, when I pushed that button to open sales, UM, 843 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: I had my phone on and UM, I was recording 844 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 1: myself and I kid you not. As like sales started 845 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: to come in and come As sales started to come in, 846 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: I was freaking out. I was bawling crying. I'm just like, 847 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like what am I gonna do? Like 848 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: what am I selling? Like? Are they gonna like it? Like? 849 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 1: What is what is going to happen? Like are they 850 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: going to know what to do? Are they going to 851 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: put it on correctly? Like what are they going to 852 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: say about it? I'm like literally freaking out because it's 853 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: not like a lip loss like loke csses is done 854 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,479 Speaker 1: like a thousand and a thousand million times somebody buys 855 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: a lift class they either like the color they put 856 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: it on, you know, but this is something that it 857 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: hasn't been done. It's the first of its kind, and 858 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: I just I couldn't just I was I don't know, 859 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 1: I was speaking out. It's crazy that you thought, after 860 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: you did all these years of research and everything, that 861 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: you still had that little bit of like possible self doubt, 862 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: Like is it you know, we talked about it before, 863 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: like imposter syndrome with like um the Ceover Vault. He 864 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: had mentioned that He's like, there's this thing called imposter 865 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: syndrome because I'm like, yo, sometimes I can make it 866 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: to the top and then I feel like, damn uh, 867 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: are they going to realize who I really am? Something? 868 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: You like, am I good enough to be here? Or 869 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: you know. I definitely had my instances where I feel 870 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: that way because just in general, my my product is 871 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: still newer on the market, so I am scaling pretty fast. 872 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: But it's also like that that voice in the back 873 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: of my head like are we really gonna do this? 874 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: Like is this really like how we're gonna go? Like 875 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 1: is it really gonna work? Is it gonna be like 876 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: a big booming sales is gonna dwindle down? Is it 877 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: going to be a fad for something? Um? But um. 878 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: One thing that always reassures me is the reviews that 879 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: I get from like a lot of my customers, and 880 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 1: the thank yous that I get from them. Or how 881 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: this one lady in particular, UM, it always sticks out 882 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: in my mind. She had foot or ankle surgery or 883 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: something and she had to get pins in her ankle 884 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: and she was not able to wear high heels. Um 885 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: after doing that, and she purchased the product and she 886 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: was able to wear high he was again with wearing 887 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: my product on the bottom of hers shoes. Wow, that's amazing. Well, 888 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: I know for a fact, I'm getting it. I'm I'm 889 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: getting me some piers because I have a nice layer 890 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: of dust on it. Nice there. And it's always expensive shoes. 891 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: It's never like my cheap shoes. It's like, that's the thing. 892 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: It's so sad. A lot of ladies hit me with that, 893 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 1: and I'm like, we we buy these shoes, whether they're 894 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: cheap or expensive or whatever, and we want to wear them. 895 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: We want to look good in them. So if my 896 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: product is giving you an extra hour like, girl, put 897 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: them shoes on. Hell yeah, like even it's only worth 898 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: the investment. Um always so Asia. Um. Like when we're 899 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,240 Speaker 1: going out of something and she's like, um, well should 900 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: I bring this or should I wear that? I'm like, 901 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 1: are you better wear that stuff? It's just in the closet. 902 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: Put that stuff on? Yeah, I mean you buy it 903 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: to wear it. You want to look good, That's true. 904 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,439 Speaker 1: I want those people. I'll buy a product and first 905 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,439 Speaker 1: of all, it will be in my house like less 906 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: than ten minutes. I'll be like, let's change it to that, 907 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, and then I like destroy it, you know, 908 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: because I'll rock it so it looks like dead. And 909 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: then I'm like, that's the new stuff coming. I don't 910 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: know if i'll wear at all. Well, thank you so 911 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: much for coming and teaching me a dish that I'll 912 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: promise you. I assure you, Miss Jackson, You're not gonna 913 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: I will never ever. You won't even see me nibble 914 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: on that thing. And I'm gonna make everybody in the 915 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: squad try this. You gotta try one, because I'm meant 916 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: even know him before I leave. This thing is absolutely 917 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: like I'm just saying, you have to have a quiet 918 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: taste um and you you know what, you have great 919 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: taste clearly just just in the food area. You know 920 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,479 Speaker 1: I've got great tastes and food I don't know, man, 921 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope to never ever be so down 922 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: and out or just even in a vicinity where called 923 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: eggs is like my only option because it's just I 924 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: think everything else is great. Just just one and done. 925 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: I'll show you you will never even finished that one. 926 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: I can't. It's I just want to describe for all 927 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: your listeners. It's like a hard egg. It tastes vinegree 928 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: which the taste I can get past. It's the texture 929 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: and just I'm just not rocking it like I'm good, 930 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna rock some shoegummies. Thank you so much 931 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: for your time. Shout out to our listeners. Definitely check 932 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: out where can we check you out, follow up with you, 933 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: and keep up with you so you can check me out. 934 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 1: On Instagram is um Miss Jackson as m I S. S. Jackson, 935 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: and my bio is pretty much all my companies tag 936 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: Shoe Gummy, Fancy Good, Cheek Beauty UM and website as 937 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: well on TikTok Miss Jackson Double O seven. So catch 938 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: me there as well, and yeah, all right, piece out y'all. 939 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:10,720 Speaker 1: H For more eating while broke from I Heart Radio 940 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,399 Speaker 1: and The Black Effect, visit the I Heart Radio app, 941 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.