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Speaker 5: Yud and Nate join us the book. If anyone builds it,

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Speaker 5: everyone dies. It is a warning and a deeply thought

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Speaker 5: through warning to humanity and to the citizens of this republic. Guys,

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Speaker 5: we've been accused a lot on the warm of being luddites,

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Speaker 5: that we just don't like tech technology, we don't like

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Speaker 5: the oligarchs, we don't like the tech bros. We're populous nationalists.

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Speaker 5: We just don't like them, right, and so we want

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Speaker 5: to stop them. But I keep telling people, I say, hey,

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Speaker 5: in this regard, all I'm doing is putting out the

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Speaker 5: information of some the smartest guys that were there at

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the building of artificial intelligence. Now can

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Speaker 5: folks make the argument against you guys that you just

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Speaker 5: have become a proto Luddites because of your journey.

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Speaker 6: You know, there are many technologies that I am quite

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Speaker 6: bullish on. I personally think America should be building more

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Speaker 6: It's different when a technology risks the lives of everybody

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Speaker 6: on the planet. And this is not a very controversial

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Speaker 6: You have people inside these labs saying yes, it's very dangerous,

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Speaker 6: for the sake of technology. You know, when NASA launches

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Speaker 6: with much much higher dangers in that we're dealing with

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Speaker 6: This to imagine that this is is luddites. You know,

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Speaker 6: we're not saying, oh, this is going to have some

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Speaker 6: in the chatbots may have those effects. But a superintelligence

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Speaker 6: this technology takes. It's it's not that humanity cannot progress technologically,

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Speaker 5: Okay, so yud tonight's point. You know, we had this

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Speaker 5: have artificial intelligence. You have this concept of a treaty

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Speaker 7: And the reason it didn't happen is because of some

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Speaker 7: we need to reproduce today, Nate.

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Speaker 5: Before I let you guys bounce, I can explain the

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Speaker 5: title of the book. It's pretty grabbing, but it's scary.

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Speaker 5: If anyone builds it, everyone dies. What do you guys

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Speaker 6: I mean what we mean is that if humanity builds

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Speaker 6: If you make a superintelligence, you don't have that superintelligence.

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Speaker 6: Artificial intelligence would be able to radically transform the world,

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Speaker 5: Joe Allen, any comments I can say is the forces

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Speaker 5: to venture capital and Wall Street gets involved, any thoughts

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Speaker 8: You know, Steve. It would be a very different thing

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Speaker 9: Yokowski and Nate Sores we're making these accusations or at

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Speaker 9: For instance, we're just simply saying we're building tools. These

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Speaker 9: We've seen the creation of systems that can competently produce

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Speaker 9: all the warnings that Yudkowski gave early on when AI

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Speaker 9: This, and for sores you live in and among the

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Speaker 6: So some of them have just come out and said,

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Speaker 6: That is in some sense enough to explain why these

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Speaker 7: that it was starting to be real, he quit Google

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Speaker 7: and started speaking out about these.

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Speaker 7: Now, who knows how much money he was turning down

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Speaker 7: by doing that, but that's what he did. And you

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Speaker 5: Thank you, sir Nate. Where do people go to get you?

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Speaker 5: Tell me what keeps you so young? Well, besides your husband,

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Speaker 5: Chamaine Nugent, thank you very much, wisdom and energy all

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Speaker 10: the speech I went to prison so you won't have

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Speaker 10: to the title of the book is actually a tagline

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Speaker 10: from the speech.

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Speaker 1: It means like a wake up call.

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Speaker 10: But I mentioned this in the context of Charlie because

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Speaker 10: I didn't even know this.

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Speaker 1: But two days earlier I saw a clip was shown.

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Speaker 10: I was on the set of shortly after he got killed,

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Speaker 10: and he was given a speech on my birthday July fifteenth,

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Speaker 10: two days before me, and he said, I've visited college campuses,

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Speaker 10: so you won't have to. And I mean the way

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Speaker 10: I just somehow has struck a warm cord in me, and.

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Speaker 1: I felt like we were fellow travelers.

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Speaker 10: And yeah, I'm on the campaign trail getting out of

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Speaker 10: prison with the boss. My fiancee Pixier in the book,

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Speaker 10: I call her Bonnie. You know her well, Steve, She's

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Speaker 10: been on your show. We'd see Charlie everywhere, right everywhere

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Speaker 10: we'd go. We were Georgia and North Carolina, we were

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Speaker 10: in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: He was always there.

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Speaker 10: And then during the transition, he was essentially Sergio Gore's.

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Speaker 1: Co pilot.

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Speaker 10: They're putting all the personnel together in the administration. And

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Speaker 10: look the boss. Charlie was like a son to Donald

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Speaker 10: John Trump as well as as a key advisor, one

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Speaker 10: of his most trusted advisors.

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Speaker 1: So he'll be missed. I'm going to try to hit

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Speaker 1: your ride out and Peter hanging Air Force one on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and be there. I'm sure you'll be covering.

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Speaker 5: Hang on second, Yeah, hang on site. We're doing Walda

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Speaker 5: Wall coverage of it. I want to hold you to

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Speaker 5: for a second. Back in a moment, we were buying

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Speaker 8: Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 6: Bath.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you. By the way, gold we tracked a

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Speaker 5: go check it out. We had a rate cut last night,

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Speaker 5: only twenty five basis points. President Trump wants more. His

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Speaker 5: Steve Mirran, the Council of Economic Advisor's chair is now

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Speaker 5: the I guess the interim governor. He voted against one

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Speaker 5: a fifty basis point cut. Go find out why gold

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Speaker 5: has been a hedge for times of financial turbulence in

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Speaker 5: mankind's history. Joe Allen, I know you got a bolt. Uh,

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Speaker 5: just give your coordinates. You can't be on a night

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Speaker 5: because you're gonna be at one of the conferences. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna get you back on hopefully tomorrow. We had a

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Speaker 5: historic interview today on the book If anyone builds that,

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Speaker 5: everyone dies, very uplifting. Where do people go to get

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Speaker 5: your writing star?

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Speaker 9: If the audience wants to hear the in depth interview

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Speaker 9: I did with Nate Sorez a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 9: It's right at the top of my social media at

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Speaker 9: joe bot x y z. Also an article about the

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Speaker 9: hearing two days ago with Josh Holly and the parents

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Speaker 9: of children who have who were lured into suicide by AI.

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Speaker 8: That's also up at the.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we are backed up on a lot of stuff

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Speaker 5: because of the Charlie Kirks short was obviously a priority,

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Speaker 5: including designating Antifa a terrorist group, so we can get

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Speaker 5: to the bottom of all of it and not just

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Speaker 5: have this dealt with by UTAH officials as a single murder.

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Speaker 5: It's much deeper than that. What the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 5: Joe Allen, thank you so much. Josh Arliy is supposed

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Speaker 5: to be here today because we had the press conference,

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Speaker 5: and right there on the screen you see the President

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Speaker 5: United States getting ready to leave to go to to

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Speaker 5: go to the airfield to take Air Force one back.

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Speaker 5: He'll arrive later tonight. Of course, we're recovering all of that.

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Speaker 5: Peter Navarro, one of President Trump's close advisors, and I

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Speaker 5: think arguably the longest advice. I think you're the only

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Speaker 5: one's been there from the very, very very beginning that's

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Speaker 5: still there. Why should in a world of all this

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Speaker 5: information and everything going on, as big a hero as

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Speaker 5: you are to this movement, as highly respected as you

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Speaker 5: are by President Trump, because you're kind of the architect

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Speaker 5: with him of the reorganization of the world's trading patterns,

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Speaker 5: why should people buy a book about you and your

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Speaker 5: days in prison, sir?

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Speaker 10: It's not about me Steve, and I would ask the

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Speaker 10: polse to go right now to Amazon.

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Speaker 1: I went to prison so you won't have to.

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Speaker 10: The book is really the best analysis of how the

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Speaker 10: left is going after all of this. If they can

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Speaker 10: come for me, they can come for Steve Mann and

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Speaker 10: put him in prison, if they can try to put

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Speaker 10: Trump in prison. Now they shot Charlie Kirk, they can

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Speaker 10: do this to you and I'll take.

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Speaker 1: You into prison. And I went to prison so you

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Speaker 1: won't have to.

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Speaker 10: But the broad scope here, Steve is really an analysis

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Speaker 10: about the asymmetry. There's disturbing asymmetry between how the left

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Speaker 10: is waging war on this. You mentioned everybody I served with, Steve,

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Speaker 10: including you, has been its target of the left. At

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Speaker 10: a minimum, they've spent millions of dollars in legal fees,

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Speaker 10: whether it's Mike Flynn or America's mayor Rudy Giuliani. They

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Speaker 10: take the barcards of Jeff Clark, John Eastman. And on

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Speaker 10: the other end, Steve, You and I went to prison,

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Speaker 10: and everybody who put us there, every single person was

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Speaker 10: a Democrat except Liz Cheney. And that's the exception that

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Speaker 10: proves the rule. I mean, think about that. How can

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Speaker 10: the democrats seize power and use that to put us

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Speaker 10: in prison and call us fascist. How dare they?

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Speaker 1: Steve? So I went to prison so you won't have to.

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Speaker 10: It's a story about how we must wake up to

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Speaker 10: what's happening.

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Speaker 1: But it's all a law fair story. But to look,

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Speaker 1: if you.

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Speaker 10: Want to find out what it's like to go into

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Speaker 10: prison for a misdemeanor and wind up spending four months

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Speaker 10: with two hundred felons, this is the book. And you know,

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Speaker 10: bonding my fiance, it's also a story about how we

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Speaker 10: were able to cope and deal with that. The message

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Speaker 10: there is simply that she did the time with me,

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Speaker 10: and that's what happens when people are unjustly targeted by

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Speaker 10: the left. It's not just you. We can take it, Steve.

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Speaker 10: You and I are soldiers, we can take it. But

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Speaker 10: when they go after our families, that's where you draw

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Speaker 10: the line.

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Speaker 1: So it's a big book, a big story.

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Speaker 5: And go ahead, if they steal the election of twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty eight, trust me, this audience, they're going to be

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Speaker 5: coming for you. You see now we're in a different place

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Speaker 5: than we even back then. This is getting more and

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Speaker 5: more intense every day. That's why Navarre's book has got

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Speaker 5: to be written because it's actually for you and about you.

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Speaker 5: Ain't about Navarro, not about me, not about President Trump.

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Speaker 5: There are different characters in this story, but the book

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Speaker 5: is about you. And understand, like I said, there's nothing

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Speaker 5: there's no compromise here, there's no unity here. One side's

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Speaker 5: going to win and one side is going to lose.

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Speaker 5: And if they steal in twenty eight, they're coming for you, Peter.

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Speaker 5: Where do people go to get your writings? Where they

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Speaker 5: go to get particularly your great piece on Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 5: Where they go to get your book?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 10: The book I went to Prison so you won't have

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Speaker 10: to It's on Amazon, came out two days ago. Please

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Speaker 10: the message out. It's our best defense about them targets.

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Speaker 10: And I went to prison so you won't have to

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Speaker 10: on Amazon. The piece about Charlie is very close to

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Speaker 10: my Heart's on the Washington Times op ed site today.

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Speaker 10: I've put it out on Exit Real p Navarro. It'll

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Speaker 10: be up on my substack on Sunday as we celebrate

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Speaker 10: and you know, always go to my subsect Peter Navarre

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Speaker 10: have to. And no, we got some The c SPAN

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Speaker 5: We're talking about on Sunday night, we'll talk about it's

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