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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 2: Hi's here White.

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Speaker 1: With the interception, the latest news and notes from the

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Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty, right there? Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 3: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: Look. I don't know much, but I know this much.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is all I know either way. Reportedly, Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift just grossed over two billion dollars during her concert tour,

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Speaker 2: enough disposable cash that she gave all cast and crew.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I saw this was it?

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Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety seven million combined in bonuses.

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Speaker 4: I think I saw I saw that.

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Speaker 3: I think we should maybe make this our last podcast

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Speaker 3: and shift our career Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 4: I saw it because some guy said, my dad drives

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Speaker 4: a truck for Taylor Swift. And he called and said,

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Speaker 4: I find I'm going to be able to pay for

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Speaker 4: your entire college education there and he's like, what are

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Speaker 4: you talking about? Wow, that's where I saw it.

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Speaker 2: You think I'm too old to be a stage hand?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know I can still sling it around.

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Speaker 2: You know, some of those cases, guitar.

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Speaker 3: Cases you got, Chrismapall. She could probably find something for

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Speaker 3: you to do on stage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I was gonna say, you played you played safety? Answer,

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Speaker 4: you are a safety in high school. Can't you be

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Speaker 4: like one of the dancers.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, here's the football application to this. Okay, if all

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Speaker 2: these casts and crew members figure counted on these sort

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Speaker 2: of bonuses, if they felt vested in the process, if

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Speaker 2: you will, I mean, there's a cause and effect here

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Speaker 2: for grossing more than two billion dollars. If I'm an

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Speaker 2: NFL GM, would I set my salary cap so that

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Speaker 2: there's an extra ten to twenty to thirty million unused

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Speaker 2: that I'm gonna split up just based on making the

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Speaker 2: playoffs or number of wins. For example, a NFL team

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Speaker 2: makes the playoffs, you get a bonus for playing in

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Speaker 2: a playoff game. You get more if you win from

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Speaker 2: the NFL. From the NFL, you know, and then as

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Speaker 2: you advance, you get bonuses for every round.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 2: What if you did that as a team. I know

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Speaker 2: every player has little incentives, or most players have some

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Speaker 2: incentives built into their deals. What if there was just

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Speaker 2: a flat rate for making the postseason, winning next number

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Speaker 2: of games, winning playoff games? Because most every NFL team

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Speaker 2: is really top heavy in terms of the salary structure,

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Speaker 2: so about forty to fifty guys on the roster, I

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Speaker 2: mean talk about accountability through the entire locker room and

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Speaker 2: it trickling through. If everyone knew that kind of cash

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Speaker 2: was on the line weeked to week, then maybe you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have this roller coaster ride through a regular season.

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Speaker 4: Well, number one, I'm pretty sure the NFLPA would have

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Speaker 4: a problem with that that you're not putting that money out.

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Speaker 4: And two, like if you had that much money under

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Speaker 4: there's that. My question is what's what's better per hour? Well,

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Speaker 4: when we're talking about billions, maybe, but I mean Juan Soto.

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Speaker 4: I saw a thing that said Juan Soto is getting

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Speaker 4: more money over fifteen years from the Mets than Woody

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Speaker 3: I don't understand baseball. Let's just throw that out there.

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Speaker 3: Don't understand how you won have somebody, an owner who

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Speaker 3: super team. He's won. Soto is twenty five, twenty six,

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Speaker 3: twenty six, So fifteen years. You're telling me you're wanting

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Speaker 2: Well, number one, how does.

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Speaker 4: That work in terms of affording it? It's all cash flow, Danny,

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Speaker 4: It's all cash flow. Yeah, you're right. I mean, ask

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Speaker 4: the Angels about Albert Poolholes when they gave him whatever

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Speaker 3: How is how how does one person have that much money?

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Speaker 2: But to Danny's point, when I saw the terms fifteen

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Speaker 2: years for what seven sixty seven sixty five, yes, I

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Speaker 4: Well, here here's how I would explain that. If the

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Speaker 4: dot in numb and you talking about the money like

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Speaker 4: if you're saying, I got to get this guy on

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Speaker 4: and sixty five million dollars, period, end of story, because

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Speaker 4: that's what it is. And there's no raises, there's no bonuses.

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Speaker 4: Baseball and basketball contracts, it's there's no incentives. You just

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Speaker 4: get the salary. It's all guaranteed. So if you're doing it,

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Speaker 4: then what's the difference between saying he's getting a fifteen

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Speaker 4: scale butt like for instance, and they've done it a

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Speaker 4: I happen to look up the other day. Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 4: Byron Murphy is a free agent after the year for

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Speaker 4: the Viking's former Cardinals cornerback. He signed what was essentially

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Speaker 4: a two year deal last year, so he's in the

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Speaker 4: second year of his deal. But when I looked it up,

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Speaker 4: there's five voids seasons on it. So in theory, the

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Speaker 4: Vikings signed him to a whatever it was, fifteen million

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Speaker 4: dollar deal for seven years. They just voided all the years.

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Speaker 4: So what's the difference between that and this? There is

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Speaker 4: no difference. This is like if you signed him to

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Speaker 4: the back of it, right.

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Speaker 2: I guess. But isn't the accounting much different in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the accounting is much different because there's a

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Speaker 4: salary cap, but there is no Just like Danny said,

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Speaker 4: since there's no sary cap, it doesn't matter what you do.

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Speaker 4: Just like Shohey Atani is getting six hundred and eighty

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Speaker 4: hundred of it until like ten years from now because

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Speaker 4: they deferred it like it doesn't matter, okay, and let's

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Speaker 4: not do with that kind of money. I'd love to

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Speaker 4: find out.

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Speaker 3: What do you do right? Like, don't you get what's

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Speaker 3: at some point of all these extra houses and cars?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's where you become, like you become and start

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Speaker 4: giving away, Like, what's what's involved? What's the first thing

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Speaker 4: you do if you if you got mega rich, what's

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Speaker 3: Thing off my student loan?

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Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, that's dumb. Something like for me,

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Speaker 4: I want I don't need a big house. I don't

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Speaker 4: My house wouldn't be any bigger than it is right now.

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Speaker 4: In fact, my house now that my kids are out,

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Speaker 4: I can build a basketball court, indoor basketball.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I think the first thing I would do is

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Speaker 3: plan a family trips and we're really nice, probably take

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Speaker 4: There would Brian be on that trip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's included in the family. I just wasn't sure

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Speaker 3: the private plane off the air, I'm not sure about

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Speaker 3: when you take into account all the neck and back surgeries.

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Speaker 4: The year is that private planes are good.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't buy one.

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Speaker 4: Now you got you got a whole fleet of cars.

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Speaker 3: The first thing would be a big family vacation.

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Speaker 2: So my brother in law sent me a house listing

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Speaker 2: the other day with a twenty five car garage that

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Speaker 2: would be on the list.

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Speaker 4: Well, but you need to fill it.

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Speaker 3: I know. He would extend the family cruise he went

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Speaker 3: on with his in laws this summer to be even longer.

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Speaker 2: Than I get the dog Cheeto into a fat farm.

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Speaker 4: As you can tell you he.

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Speaker 3: Can find ozembic for dogs.

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Speaker 4: It's true you can tell the Cardinals did not have

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Speaker 4: a good game this week.

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Speaker 2: But but but to answer before we get to football.

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Speaker 2: To answer Darren's question, it was a lyric and a

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Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen song. Poor men want to be rich, rich

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Speaker 2: men want to be king. So what happens after you

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Speaker 2: get rich? Human nature is you want the power. So

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Speaker 2: if you're Steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets, and

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Speaker 2: you got hedge fun money, okay, twenty thirty billion in the.

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Speaker 3: Bank, so you could buy a team.

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Speaker 2: You buy a team, and you want to be king

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Speaker 2: of baseball, and you're willing to spend whatever it takes

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Speaker 2: to try and beat who Matt the Crosstown Yankees, and

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Speaker 2: everyone else.

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Speaker 3: So you would buy a baseball team.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm saying what that guy would do?

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Speaker 3: What would you do?

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Speaker 4: You didn't answer the qu did he bought a twenty

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Speaker 2: Well, in the twenty five car garage house would be

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Speaker 2: on some unnamed island in the Pacific. So just to

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Speaker 4: We would never see you again, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm already in solitary confinement most of the day.

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Speaker 2: So so Seattle beats the Cardinals thirty eighteen, and not

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Speaker 2: sure where you want to start, I'll raise my hand

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Speaker 2: both JG and Nick Rowlis pointing out quote mode of play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised about that.

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Speaker 2: I throw that out there because that's imminently correctible. It's

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Speaker 2: most definitely under your control. Has nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: x's and o's, nothing to do with who's healthy, who's injured,

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with talent level on your roster. Mode

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question, Paul. That is because

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Speaker 4: I asked Nick Rollis about this. This is the first

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Speaker 4: time we've heard this from either one of them all season.

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Speaker 4: Is this the first time you've noticed it or just

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Speaker 4: the first time you've said something, and he basically said,

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Speaker 4: there have been points, there have been players here and there.

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Speaker 4: That feels if you're willing to go public, especially with

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Speaker 4: this coaching staff, it feels like, hey, we want to

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Speaker 4: send a little bit of a message here for oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: To me, the most troubling part about something that stands

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Speaker 3: out to the head coach and defensive coordinator being the

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Speaker 3: mode of play, the motor in which you were playing

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Speaker 3: the game, the intensity you were showing up with, is

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a turning point in the season.

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Speaker 3: That game. The players and the staff knew what was

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Speaker 3: keeping the control, keeping your destiny and your own control. Now,

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Speaker 3: the season's not over, the Cardinals are not eliminated from

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Speaker 2: Mean, it was wasn't totally unlike the end of the

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Speaker 3: That's where all the changes start, especially when you're looking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're on the sideline and you look over

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Speaker 3: Game one in Seattle, it was defensive lineman Leonard Williams

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Speaker 2: But I mean, well, look, he's six to one, he's

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Speaker 2: On his weekly TV show, Jonathan Gannon compared him to

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Speaker 4: You know, always it comes back in.

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Speaker 2: once amount of time not too long ago. Wasn't there

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: You're gonna You're gonna work the motor, put a motor on,

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Speaker 2: It, like during it as a symbol, Darren work with me.

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Speaker 4: That's that's lovely. Are we gonna surround it with like I.

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Speaker 2: Know what do we? Well? Look, if you're gonna boil

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Speaker 2: this down, can it be this simple? Every NFL game

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Speaker 4: I think that's pretty fair, pretty fair, right, what do

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Speaker 2: Like I said, the plot thickens, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: he just didn't get it far enough. And Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 2: like the quarterbacks reading the coverage, being the right place

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Speaker 2: at the right time, have your eyes around, get ready

438
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Speaker 2: for the football, and when they take away Trey McBride

439
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: with some sort of diamond type triple coverage deal they

440
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 2: are using, I would do the same thing if I'm

441
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Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator. Put it all on the Cardinals receivers,

442
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 2: Make sure James Connor doesn't beat you, Trey McBride doesn't

443
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: beat you, and then ride with whatever else the Cardinals bring.

444
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Speaker 3: You can't put it all on the quarterback there. It

445
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: truly is all eleven on every single play. The fact

446
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Speaker 3: that Murray, I know that's coach pet.

447
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Speaker 4: Poll No, no, no, and I don't mean to cut

448
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Speaker 4: you off, but I'm listening to all three of us

449
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Speaker 4: talk right now and thinking how many people are listening

450
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Speaker 4: to us and just cussing the hell out O there Madical.

451
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Speaker 3: Well, then fine, let's start with the quarterback. Kyler Murray

452
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: did not have a game. He did say that much.

453
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Speaker 3: He went and he started his press conference and said

454
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Speaker 3: that he let the team down. It was self explanatory.

455
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Speaker 3: He cannot throw picks like that. There is more than

456
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Speaker 3: just on Murray though, and I can understand if you

457
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Speaker 3: want to give fair criticism to the quarterback. They take

458
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: the most flak and they get the most praise, and

459
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: that is just what comes with the job. He was

460
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Speaker 3: under constant duress. That offensive line was still struggling against

461
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Speaker 3: the Seattle defensive line. Despite making the personnel change at

462
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Speaker 3: right guard and having the rookie Isaiah Adams get his

463
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Speaker 3: first start and have him play the full game. You

464
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Speaker 3: had your tight ends really involved in the blocking game

465
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Speaker 3: and it was a struggle. You could tell that that

466
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Speaker 3: they were getting worn down. As the Cardinals offensive line,

467
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Speaker 3: your receivers need to be able to create space and

468
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Speaker 3: they need to get open and be in the right

469
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Speaker 3: spot at the right time, especially if the quarterback is

470
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Speaker 3: having to get rid of the ball quickly. You look

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Speaker 3: at the numbers, and when you're looking at more than

472
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Speaker 3: one hundred receivers in the league who are eligible to

473
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Speaker 3: be courted on the stat and Michael Wilson and Marvin

474
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior are getting some of the fewest yards per

475
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Speaker 3: separation per separation, you can look at that positively and say, Okay,

476
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Speaker 3: they're not getting a lot of separation. They're still making

477
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Speaker 3: these contested catches. You can also look at it and say,

478
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Speaker 3: how can you get open better? How can you make

479
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: life easier for your quarterback. It's a two way street.

480
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: You need your quarterback to elevate the players around him.

481
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Speaker 3: You need Kyler Murray to be able to have the

482
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Speaker 3: accuracy the ball placement to lead his receivers, not throw

483
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Speaker 3: it behind them, not underthrow them. You also need your

484
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Speaker 3: receivers to be able to get in the spot at

485
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Speaker 3: the right time, at the right place, and be able

486
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Speaker 3: to create something when your quarterback is under durest the

487
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Speaker 3: amount of times that Murray was against Seattle me I'll

488
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Speaker 3: give you.

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Speaker 2: Let me throw this stat out here, all right, I

490
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Speaker 2: violate my own own rule here. No math, But Darren,

491
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Speaker 2: you tell me what to make of this when next

492
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Speaker 2: gen stats comes out after the game and says Kyler

493
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Speaker 2: averaged his second fewest air yards per attempt in a

494
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Speaker 2: game this season, just over five yeah, while throwing a

495
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Speaker 2: season I twenty nine passes under ten air yards, meaning

496
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Speaker 2: he attempted just nine downfield passes, going four to nine

497
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Speaker 2: for eighty yards a touchdown. And the two picks those

498
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Speaker 2: are on passes over ten yards.

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Speaker 4: Right and the two picks and the touchdown were all

500
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Speaker 4: in the first quarter, so obviously he dialed it back

501
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: after all that happened. In terms of looking down the field, now,

502
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: whether that's pressure, whether that's guys weren't open.

503
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Whether the show coverage too high safety, it might be.

504
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Speaker 4: It might be, Hey, I got to start throwing a

505
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: Trey McBride all the time, and he's just he's shorter

506
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: than he's on shorter routes than everybody else. I don't know. Look,

507
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Speaker 4: I get what everybody has said about Kyler. I totally

508
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 4: understand it. It's been three games, has been the first

509
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 4: time in his career he's had back to back games

510
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Speaker 4: with two interceptions or more. You know, it's not how

511
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: you want it to play, but I it feels like

512
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that aren't playing the way

513
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 4: you totally want them to play, and I don't want to.

514
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: You know, the game this past weekend obviously got sideways,

515
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 4: but they were in that Seattle game, the first Seattle game,

516
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Speaker 4: most of the way, and obviously they led the Minnesota

517
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: game most of the way. I mean, what it just

518
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 4: reminds me of again is the margins are so tiny

519
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: and there and there's a lot that goes into it.

520
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: You know, you watch the Bengals on Monday Night and

521
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is having Joe Burrow is probably in the

522
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 4: conversation with Josh Allen for MVP if the Bengals are

523
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 4: eight and four instead of four and eight or whatever. Yep,

524
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Speaker 4: But because their defense stinks, he's not and.

525
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: The line is maybe average.

526
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Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to sit here and say that

527
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is Joe Burrow here or anything like that. Again,

528
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 4: I'm with Danny. I understand why people are upset with

529
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: the quarterback, because that's who you're gonna look to first.

530
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Speaker 4: I just I think there's other things involved, and I

531
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 4: think ultimately you know you're you're still six. I mean,

532
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 4: this team isn't two and ten or two and eleven.

533
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: And the people that are clamoring for more scrambles or

534
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: run plays or things of that nature. When you looked

535
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: at how quickly the pocket was collapsing, more times than not,

536
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: Murray was not even gonna be able to get outside

537
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: the pocket and he was having to go through it more.

538
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: And there is just so many pieces that have to

539
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: go right in order for a play to go right.

540
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: For the Cardinals, and they are just not working cohesively

541
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: with all the different levels at this point. Now, again,

542
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: a fair amount of that does go to the quarterback.

543
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: That is every quarterback across the league, and that's something

544
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: that Murray went and took complete responsibility for. When asked

545
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: about the interceptions and asked about the receiver's role in that,

546
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: he would stop the question being asked and say it's

547
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 3: all on me and take all the responsibility. So he's

548
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: aware of how his play was and how that does

549
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: not meet the standards for him or this team or

550
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Speaker 3: the fan base.

551
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Speaker 4: I do think the scrambling thing is tougher against Seattle.

552
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: I think they handle that better than a lot because

553
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 4: they have seen it so much. And I know it's

554
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 4: a new coaching staff, but plenty of those players have

555
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: seen it before.

556
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: Because you know what, For my money, the most confounding

557
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 2: thing about Kyler's season is going into the bye, he

558
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: was number one in the league on the run scrambling

559
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: ostensibly under pressure. He had a ridiculously good passer rating

560
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: since the bye under pressure. And I don't know how

561
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: they calculate these numbers, but here's what Next Gen Stats

562
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: has come up with. Since the buye three games seven

563
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: of twenty seven when under pressure fifty nine yards passing,

564
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: zero touchdowns and all five picks. What's the difference before

565
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: and after the bye in terms of Kyler when under pressure?

566
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Speaker 2: I don't have the answer to that. I'd love to know.

567
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 4: When you're looking at defenses.

568
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, let's go multiple choice, Brian Flores and Mike

569
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: McDonald that's number one. Number two, how much is on

570
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: the receivers if they're doing everything they can to take

571
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: away Trey McBride despite all that, still had twelve catches

572
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: in each of the two previous games coming out of

573
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: the by Then, all right, how much is on the

574
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: receivers a winning the one on ones? Because to my

575
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: I Seattle went with a lot of man coverage with

576
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: Rake Woollen and Devin Witherspoon, two top notch cornerbacks who

577
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: are going to be a problem and a headache for

578
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: many years to come for every Cardinals offense. So there's

579
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: all that involved. And then if you're shutting down James

580
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: Connor and you don't have the play action, obviously that's big.

581
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: So that's just but speaking of confounding, it's probably the

582
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: best segue I can think of for the midpoint of

583
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: the show.

584
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Speaker 4: Just so, I thought you were gonna talk about Bill

585
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: Belichick coaching in college. That's confounding.

586
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: But anyways, unless he's just doing it for leverage with

587
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: NFL owners, which could.

588
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: A lot of smoke out there today, Paul, all.

589
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: I know is I've recently gone to HR to talk

590
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: about my emotional well being and I cited one thing

591
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: and one thing only, and it happens to be this

592
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: trivia game.

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00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: It's time for the wise Ye, the world's fastest growing

594
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 5: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

595
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 5: absolutely nothing.

596
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Here's your hostess with the mostess.

597
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 2: Daddy's their right.

598
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: Paul rolls up the sleeves, try and get his third

599
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: win of the season. We go intimidation, intimidation, always rooting

600
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: for you.

601
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: This is a bit. I'm gonna resort to intimidation now

602
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: as I stare down Darren here to begin this segment.

603
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: Just he's gonna be a little mentally discombobulated. Here, here

604
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: we go, Darren.

605
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: Would you like to go first?

606
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: I am gonna go first, Danny, and I'm gonna take

607
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: question number three. Please.

608
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: You know I don't appreciate the whispering you know, the calculated.

609
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: You know, he seems a little too at ease right now.

610
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

611
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. This twenty twelve Cardinals draft pick

612
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: and three time Pro Bowlers spent three seasons in New

613
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: England before his finishing his career in Miami. He is

614
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: also an accomplished musician. Can you name him?

615
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, A car Cardinal, a Patriot, and a Dolphin.

616
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: This Cardinal's twenty twelve draft pick, three time Pro bowler.

617
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Musician.

618
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I know who this is. Is it Justin Bethel?

619
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Speaker 3: It sure is. You played the Drums Go Devils.

620
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: What connection does Justin Beth will have to asu nothing?

621
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: I just needed to get that out there. Did you

622
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: know that they're in the college football playoff?

623
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Speaker 3: Paul oh Man?

624
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: You know Cam Scattaboo should have been a heisman. Finally,

625
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: I think.

626
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: We should ding Darren for misplaced product placement. That's what

627
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: I think right there.

628
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: I didn't even I was sitting here drinking and I'm like, hey, wait,

629
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 4: this is an issue? Cup? How nice for me?

630
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: How nice for you? Paul? Pick a question?

631
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Speaker 2: If only Darren would act like he's been there before,

632
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: but it's been since nineteen ninety six, since he's been there,

633
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: So okay, I'll go with number two, of course for

634
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: my alma maters, but see Paul, my home matter has

635
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: been nineteen fifty eight. Let's go Danny.

636
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: Okay, he wasn't a star, but this former Patriots player

637
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: made the track to the Cardinals in twenty eight and

638
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: teamed with Kurt Warner to convert a late third and

639
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: sixteen at see Arizona's NFC Wildcard victory over the Falcons.

640
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: All right, I got the trek. I like the track.

641
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: That is pretty good.

642
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: Steven Spock crack. How about that third and sixteen was

643
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: a third and sixteen and sixteen, third.

644
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: And sixteen, two seventeen to play and it was a

645
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 3: twenty three yard connection.

646
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: Right, maybe the biggest mind blow of Kurt Warner's career,

647
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: and that's saying something that pass that completion to that

648
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: player in that moment when the ball was in the air,

649
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, please let him catch it, and he

650
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: was so wide open.

651
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: And the worst part about Steven Spock is the next

652
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: week he tore his ACL in the first half against

653
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: Carolina and.

654
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: Got darrenoff unnecessary flex of unneeded knowledge. I don't know.

655
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: He's trying to intimidate me right now. I'm not buying it.

656
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: Nope, I'll take Yeah, Paul is doing the intimidating.

657
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: That's true.

658
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: What one and four?

659
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: I'll take number one?

660
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: Please, going above and beyond with added information necessary.

661
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: After spending the majority of his career in Arizona, this

662
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: player kept his fourteen year NFL career by winning a

663
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: Super Bowl ring with the two thousand and three Patriots.

664
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, we're tied one one. I'm actually in

665
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: this right, yes, so I can't lose focus. Say it again, please, Danny.

666
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Here we go. Lead Paul, I'm used to tuning out

667
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: at this point. Say it one more time, as I

668
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: buying Darren a little time.

669
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: Here we go. After spending the majority of his career

670
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: in Arizona, this player capped his fourteen year NFL career

671
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: by winning a Super Bowl ring with the two thousand

672
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: and three Patriots.

673
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: He blocks, he catches, he runs, dang, and Larry centers dang.

674
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: He got that one. I was about to get that one.

675
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: I felt it. You know, let's go here.

676
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: We got to talk the way that fans now expect

677
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: NFL kickers to make every single kick, no matter how

678
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: far I expect Darren to answer every single question, and

679
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: then I'm shocked when he doesn't.

680
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: Quick quick thing on that I had because I saw

681
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: this on social media when the Cowboys were playing Arst Night. Obviously,

682
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: AU breathe O kicker is amazing. Right, He's made ninety

683
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: point three percent of his field goals and that's eighth

684
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: in the league. How is that possible? I just thought, I.

685
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: Still can't get over Danny. You're supposed to be neutral,

686
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: sound like you're a bit of a fanboy for Darren

687
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: in this.

688
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 3: I literally started the segment by saying I was rooting

689
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: for you.

690
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: Let's go. I miss that Here we Go, Here we Go, Paul,

691
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm used to be. I'm used to the timebreaker. I'm

692
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: used to so many haters and doubters and critics. You know,

693
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 2: Here we Go, namely Chris Melbyn.

694
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: Here we Go tells me so happy that you read

695
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: this question.

696
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

697
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Cheers is one of the most popular sitcoms of all time,

698
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: which we know you love to watch.

699
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: I did used to watch Here we Go, Oh, Here

700
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: we Go.

701
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: Set in Boston, the show premiered in nineteen eighty two. No,

702
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: I was not born yet and featured main characters including

703
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: Sam Norm Cliff Woody, and the wise cracking cocktail waitress.

704
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: Name the character and the actress who portrayed.

705
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: Her, well, the character was Carla, and the actress married

706
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: to Danny DeVito. Let's see here, Maria Basilini.

707
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: The character is Carla. The actress's Ria Pearlman.

708
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: The steal that means Darren gets the way.

709
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: You had it.

710
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, couldn't have been either or named

711
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: the character or the actress. Did it have to be both?

712
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: Well, maybe you can convince Darin to do Winter Takes

713
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 3: All tiebreaker?

714
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: Also unbelievable. I'm so not Pearlman from the mid eighties.

715
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: It's just unnecessary. Remember Danny DeVito, I'm actually proud of myself.

716
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: I didn't remember that.

717
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: Should we do the tie breaker?

718
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: Oh he didn't say no.

719
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, inevitably I'm gonna lose and the booth is

720
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy it.

721
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, the number wins. Pay attention. Paul. Former Cardinals pass

722
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: rusher Chandler Jones was traded from New England to Arizona

723
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen and became the franchise leader in sacks

724
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: with seventy one and a half. How many sacks did

725
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: Jones collect in his four seasons with the Patriots?

726
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: Four seasons with the Patriots? How many? Okay, I'm gonna go.

727
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: Darren showed me his answer, so you can say yours.

728
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Paul, forty one.

729
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: That is what Darren wrote down. No, I don't know

730
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: what we do in this situation. The answer was thirty six,

731
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: and Darren was not doing what it takes all anyway,

732
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: So Darren gets his thirteen. Darren gets lucky number thirteen

733
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: to win of the season. Congratulations there, and you still

734
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: went absolutely nothing.

735
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 4: You know, don't fail. Feel a kinship with Paul the

736
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: picks Danny, who did get twenty the streak got to

737
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: twenty two. We figured out right ye.

738
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: Last week.

739
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 4: This week, Danny had a very good week nine and three.

740
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: Paul was solid at eight and four. I happen to

741
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 4: go ten and two. I lead the picks one thirty

742
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: five up, sixty down. Paul second one, thirty two and

743
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: sixty three. Danny won twenty two and seventy three. She

744
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 4: will be trying to go undefeated next week.

745
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: So just a lot of teams on by this week were.

746
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: FYI took a lot of chances in this week's picks.

747
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: I figured, you know what, there's only one thing worse

748
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: than losing, it's being boring. So I started taking a

749
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: lot of swings. I went with the Bears and a

750
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: dead cat bounce of the new head coach, and that

751
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: didn't work out so well, was it?

752
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: The three hundred and forty one yards took four and four.

753
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: At that time when I saw that, when I saw

754
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: that on my phone, I said, oh, Paul, there you go.

755
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: You know so, my philosophy is I'm going to become

756
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: the Mark Reynolds of these picks. It's either going to

757
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: be home run or strikeout. It's gonna be one of

758
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: the It's gonna be a two hundred strikeout or forty

759
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: home run season, or maybe both.

760
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: You didn't pick the Jets. We all learned to not

761
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: rely on Aaron Rodgers.

762
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: Did not take the Jets, although I did make the

763
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: mistake of taking the Chargers and then doink it goes

764
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: in and you pick against the Chiefs. Karma never a

765
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: good thing?

766
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: Was that? Because Taylor Swift has a song named called Karma? Yeah,

767
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: is that why you did that?

768
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: See? You know, Unfortunately a lot of my own biases

769
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: and dislikes work into my picks, so I got to

770
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: be a little more business like about that.

771
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: So that's fair.

772
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: There we go. H Yeah, And speaking of now, the

773
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: Cardinals get the Patriots, who you know, Minus told me,

774
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: you know Tom Brady all of a sudden, Oh wait

775
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: a minute, They've already been eliminated from the playoffs at

776
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: three and ten, so that's what's going on. But they

777
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 2: do have the number three pick over all in Drake May,

778
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: who apparently just recently during the by Alex Van Pelk

779
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: got peppered with the Boston media asking well, why didn't

780
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: you start him earlier? He only has eight starts under

781
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: his belt? Do you regret now not starting him from

782
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: the get go? He's the OC by the way out, yeah,

783
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: Alex van pelt And so he gave a spirited defense

784
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: of no, he needed those games behind Jacoby Brissette to

785
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: actually learn and you know, glean the NFL way and

786
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff.

787
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 4: So I think actually Jacoby Brossett actually got benched because

788
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 4: he was doing that new progressive commercial or I think

789
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

790
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: Does watch TV?

791
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: I forgot you know, Cole McCoy's in those commercials too.

792
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: Have you seen now I did see Cole mccoyn and

793
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs and Josh Dobbs.

794
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: No really, it's awesome. I mean they're not all in

795
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 4: the same commercial, but the whole idea is the backup quarterback.

796
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: So okay, wow, look at all these Okay, all right?

797
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, New England comes in. Look they're gonna

798
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: have like three rookies on their offensive line because they're

799
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: purposely playing young.

800
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: Guys co offense.

801
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: So so I mean, look, you're Cardinals team that the

802
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: analytics say now has a ten chance of making the playoffs.

803
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: But if you win this game, you win at Carolina,

804
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: you have the Rams, who now, all of a sudden,

805
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: the Rams are doing with the Rams stinking Do remember

806
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: a year ago they started three and six and they

807
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: made the playoffs. Okay, but you know what you have

808
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: head to head against the Rams, second to last game,

809
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: penultimate game, you beat the Rams, you sweep that season series.

810
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: In the tiebreaker, if somehow, some way Seattle falls back

811
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: to where they were before their bye and they lose

812
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: to Green Bay in Minnesota, I get it, you're essentially

813
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: three games behind him because you lose the tie breaker.

814
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: But the Seahawks still have a game against the Niners left,

815
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: I believe, and they never farewell against Kyle Shanahan.

816
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: I believe you're correct, just sort of throwing a.

817
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: Few things out there.

818
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: It's definitely still possible. The season's not over. The chances

819
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: of making the playoffs are not zero.

820
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 4: Was it over when the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?

821
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Somebody cut off Darren? I mean, seriously, what's been in

822
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: your Arizona State Cup ever since the win? After the Ok?

823
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the pleasure of watching the selection show

824
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: with Darren. Pleasure is a nice way to put it

825
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: in the press box?

826
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh I see? Okay? Really? Oh so the note cheering

827
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: in the press box doesn't apply when it comes to

828
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: someone's alma mater, and the selection.

829
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: Show also doesn't. It doesn't apply four hours before kickoff.

830
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: Five seats. Okay, all right?

831
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, But as I was saying, yo Darren's outburst.

832
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: I was just trying to support your point, Danny.

833
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: The difference now is the Cardinals not only have to

834
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: essentially win out, they have to start relying on other

835
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: teams to lose. The wildcard is a very difficult feat

836
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: to now achieve because you're looking around the NFC and

837
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: the Vikings. The Packers and the Commanders all have anywhere

838
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: from two to five more wins than the Cardinals right now,

839
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 3: and all three of those teams have head to head

840
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: over Arizona. So really your best chance of getting in

841
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs is to win the NFC West.

842
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: Who's your okay? So both the Seahawks and Commanders are

843
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: eight and five, two games ahead plus the tiebreak on

844
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: the Cardinals. Who who do you think is more likely

845
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: to come back to the pack Commanders.

846
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: I just think that Seattle coaching staff is legit. Mike

847
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 2: McDonald obviously had the number one defense in like every

848
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: single metric last year with Baltimore. Look at Baltimore's defense

849
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: this year minus Mike McDonald's, so well, Seattle.

850
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: Is trending upwards and getting steam at the right time,

851
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: Whereas it's the opposite for Washington, who had a really hard,

852
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: hot start and now they've kind of tapered off the

853
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 3: last few weeks.

854
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: And the oc Ryan Grubb college guy took him a

855
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: while maybe to learn the NFL way, but he's starting

856
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: to incorporate the run game more, obviously based on this

857
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: last affair against the Cardinals, and so he's learning a

858
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: lesson than a lot of college coordinators learn that. You know,

859
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: the run game is vital, not just sort of a

860
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 2: necessary nuisance that gets in the way and your laminated

861
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: play sheet. So and they have two really good running

862
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: backs as we see. So yeah, what I'm amazed about

863
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: with Seattle, though, is Leonard Williams is Leonard Williams, But

864
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: the rest of their d lineman, the rest of their

865
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: old lineman, I'm not at least I wasn't that impressed

866
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: until this last three game stretch. But ever since they

867
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: got Ad Lucas back at right tackle, it's been a

868
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: different offensive line. That's my question with the Cardinals right now.

869
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Offensive line. Isaiah Adams obviously got every single snap, so

870
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: they're looking for a solution. You know, it doesn't take

871
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: Jonathan Again and Manriosa for long. If they don't like something,

872
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: they'll try and find another answer. They'll plug in another

873
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: piece if necessary. I don't know Isaiah Adams graded out,

874
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: but I fully didn't expect him to get every single

875
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: snap in that game over Tristan Colone. Now, my understanding

876
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: is they liked him a little bit better against Leonard

877
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: Williams because he's longer, he's younger, he's more athletic, might

878
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: not be as stout in the run game. You know,

879
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna get in the squad rack a lot

880
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: in the off season Isaiah Adams. But beyond that, they

881
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: did like that match up a little better against Leonard

882
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: Williams because if you remember from the first time against Seattle,

883
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 2: they were just flopping him either guard, he was basically

884
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: over either guard and et cetera. So, all right, what

885
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: does that mean for the Cardinals, you know, down the

886
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: stretch here of the offensive line, because then combined with

887
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson, somebody give me a thought on Paris Johnson,

888
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: And because that was a question that was asked to

889
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: Drew Petsing this week. Was it not about the holding calls?

890
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have an answer. I thought Paris was

891
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: playing really well for most of this season. It's, you know,

892
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: the offensive again, how much is it is who they

893
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: going against against, especially the Seattle game. I mean, it

894
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: is possible for twenty twenty four that the Seattle defense

895
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: is just a horrible matchup for the Cardinals offense. And

896
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: that's gonna happen. And unfortunately it just got in the

897
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: spotlight because it was two times in three weeks.

898
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: And they changed out their inside linebackers, they cut their

899
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 2: leading tackler, they brought in Ernest Jones. They have Tyree Knight,

900
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: who's been a real fine in the middle of the

901
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: last year's draft, he's been really good. So different personnel,

902
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: different results for Seattle. Don't have to worry about Seattle

903
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: till next year at this point because you're done with him,

904
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: but as the division leader, you still have to keep

905
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: track of him. Speaking of a Seattle connection, Buddha Baker,

906
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: can somebody give me a thought on eighteen tackles?

907
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 3: He was everywhere, He's always everywhere. That's probably the only

908
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: player where if you're going to have eighteen tackles, you're

909
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: not going to be ringing the alarm bells because most times,

910
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: when you've got a player with eighteen tackles and you've

911
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: got your safety as you're a leading tackler, almost every week,

912
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: it's what is going on in those first two lines

913
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: of defense. However, with Baker, it's less of that and

914
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: more just he is everywhere on the field, and he

915
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: is that much of a force to be reckoned with.

916
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: He he'll come off the edge, he'll go through the gaps,

917
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: he will fly across the field to make a tackle,

918
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: continues to be a leader of the defense, and that's

919
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: a career high eighteen tackles in a Gameesh.

920
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point point, when I asked Nick Ross

921
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: about it, he said, if you read between the lines,

922
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 2: he's sort of kind of meandered a bit, but he said, basically,

923
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: if he's a third level safety and he has eighteen tackles, yeah,

924
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: that's that's a five alarm fire. But he's not. He's

925
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: in the box so often he's along the line of

926
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: scrimmage that that's the answer to the question that I

927
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: want from this season is how are they using him exactly?

928
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: And have they unlocked him? How much is he allowed

929
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: to freelance? You know, Troy Paulamalo, you know, had his

930
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: ability to do what he wanted a lot, but he

931
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: did that like more in his center field. Yeah, it's

932
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: like Buddha sort of is unlocked in the box.

933
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: So you're what you're saying is you're gonna go after

934
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 4: the season, You're gonna break down all his snaps.

935
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: And we need an item investigation, like immediately, we need

936
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: to we need an answer to the question. No, no, No,

937
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna watch any film. I'm gonna I'm gonna

938
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: find some sources on the inside to let us know

939
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: how is he being used. That's what I want to

940
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: Good luck with that, so pending investigation, that's what it is.

941
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: You're gonna have time for that. Bringing the motor and

942
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: now the locker.

943
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: Run right, that's ther first thing I have to do

944
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: is get on down and find the crate engine and

945
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: put it in the middle.

946
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: Of Does your son know he's gonna have to come

947
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: down here on a Saturday and help you move this thing?

948
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: That's right? You know what the Auto Tech course he's

949
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: in right now. I'm gonna where's my keys to the game?

950
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: Did I not grab my keys to the game?

951
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 4: Oh?

952
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: Somebody changed the camera for a minute while I find

953
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: my prop.

954
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 4: We're going to stop talking because at Auto Auto cuts

955
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: to you every time you say.

956
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: This, Oh here it is here, It is right here.

957
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: I had it somewhere, I always have it.

958
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: What is the key to the game this week?

959
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: It's the crate engine, the motor, the motor play. We're

960
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: gonna put the engine in the middle of the locker

961
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: room and it'll be a nice coyote V eight five

962
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: point zero and they can see that, and that'll be

963
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: their inspiration and the key to victory this.

964
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: Year and then and that'll be your walk off, your

965
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 4: drop the mic moment before we all go to work

966
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: for Taylor Swift? Is that the idea that yes, she

967
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: is she hiring?

968
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: What are you saying?

969
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 4: She certainly got the flow, as.

970
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: We said before she goes back on a two year tour.

971
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: I mean, can you imagine working on something for like

972
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: two straight years overall? I mean, she's got the private

973
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: jet to go fly to every Chiefs game. But like

974
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: if you're just Joe Schmoe driving the trucker or as

975
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 4: you're going to be the backup dancer, you know, you're

976
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: probably staying in you know, Finland or wherever the latest

977
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 4: concert is. I'm just saying, Darren, should we get here's

978
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: the immediate Was she not in Europe? Caitlyn?

979
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: Where are you?

980
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 4: Kitlyn?

981
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: She was in Europe?

982
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: She did have a europe black Danny, You're like me,

983
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: you're wondering what's in his Arizona State Cup at this point? Right?

984
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: Are you not not a confident?

985
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

986
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure that clear liquid right there? We sure that's

987
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: water on Darren's behalf. I think we're gonna end it

988
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: right here.

989
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: Okay, are we swifties now? Is that what's happening to see?

990
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: Right?

991
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: Whatever? Hey, whatever it costs to pay the bills.

992
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: I have a key to the game. We're going to

993
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: take Darren's keys to his car as we say. That'll

994
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: do it for this mistion of cardinals Underground. Brought to

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Speaker 2: you by a Pacific Office automation