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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast has trouble booking the Tiny Box.

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Speaker 1: Welcomes another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes. Yes, tiny Box, Colleen Wolf, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rose dolt Wood is up Boys and Girls. Hey, Dan,

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Speaker 1: there's something about yeah, the the Moniker tiny Box, which

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Speaker 1: I don't know why say it is gross. It was

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Speaker 1: a simple you guys have a hard time booking tiny boxes.

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Speaker 1: Very rich. Here it is and what did you just say?

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Speaker 1: It was a simple autocorrect fail on a text from

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Speaker 1: Colleen once upon a time. And anybody else that wants

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Speaker 1: to read into it from what uh Connie Fox, Connie

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Speaker 1: how it was born. And anyone else that wants to

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Speaker 1: tiny Box, that's hilarious. Not that this would ever happen

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Speaker 1: to you, but if you ever put on an extraordinary,

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Speaker 1: large Box. Not tiny box. Hey, refrigerator box. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: more about boxes. All right, here we go. Hey, welcome back, Colleen. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Does like Friday? You know why? This whole week has

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Speaker 1: a nice kind of exhale to it after Really what

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Speaker 1: to say happy trails to in NFL network. Great, who's

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Speaker 1: moving on to better things in Morning TV in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: Marcus took a Texas son returning home. Uh, he announced

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Speaker 1: today on all social media platforms. We love Mark UH.

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Speaker 1: Great guy was the original like co anchor, it was

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Now he's also the center fielder of the

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Speaker 1: Marquis took Uh. Today is part two of our big

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Speaker 1: with the Kwan treadwell. Excellent work, very wonderful memory. Don't

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Speaker 1: quote me on that though. All right, very well, very well,

428
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Speaker 1: very well done. And yes, only one fifty option picked

429
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Speaker 1: up with those three. Al Right, here we go, moving

430
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Speaker 1: on the Detroit lines. Chris Westling get us going. I

431
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: don't have like a cottage industry on annual offseason articles

432
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Speaker 1: like Greg does. But one of my few is Greg

433
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: just tossed up his hand like just flick turned it

434
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Speaker 1: and this is weird negative storyline. No, that's in your

435
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: head stable little jealous of your storehouse. Yeah, a stable

436
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Speaker 1: of boys, remember we had stable of columns. Well. One

437
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: that I do have is Top ten Offenses, which I

438
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: write after the draft and about sixteen teams make my

439
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: final cut, and the Detroit Lions were the sixteenth team.

440
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: I actually considered them. With Marvin Jones coming back healthy,

441
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: carry On Johnson coming back healthy. You add Amndulah t

442
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: j Hawkinson, Jesse James, and your offensive line is healthy.

443
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: It was not healthy at the end of last year.

444
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: To me, the biggest question mark is is the style

445
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: of play that Couder had. This style where you have

446
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford getting rid of the ball fast, and then

447
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia comes in. They changed their passing offense, and

448
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: then Stafford is sitting back there again. There's not much

449
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: rhythm to their passing game, and to me, that was

450
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: their biggest issue outside of the injuries last year. Well,

451
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: and they have a new offensive coordinator, Darryl Bevil, who's had,

452
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, a long track record in the NFL, uh

453
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Speaker 1: most famously with the Seahawks, and it kind of remains

454
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Speaker 1: to be seen what kind of offense they wanna run.

455
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Speaker 1: I always was a little torn because Stafford played his

456
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Speaker 1: best Undercoonter and yet the offense they ran didn't really

457
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: show off what he's best at, which is kind of

458
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: the deep outs in the in the deep passes. Yeah,

459
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: I wonder every year with the Lions, is this going

460
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Speaker 1: to be the year that they can run the ball?

461
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: Is this going to be the year that they can

462
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: balance out the offense? So it isn't all on Matt

463
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: staff and Barry Sanders retired. It's like it's just a

464
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Speaker 1: recurring thing. And with Daryl Bevil, he's led some some

465
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Speaker 1: top rushing attacks in the past. He's had Marshawn Lynch

466
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: and Adrian Peterson, so you just wonder if he has

467
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: the adequate pieces to do it. Now. Stafford came into

468
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: the league, I believe in two thousand nine couldn't stay healthy.

469
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Speaker 1: She knew couldn't stay on the field the first couple

470
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Speaker 1: of years, and it's turned into an iron man since

471
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: um And you get that. You get the feeling there's

472
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Speaker 1: mounting pressure around him and in that city at the

473
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Speaker 1: quarterback position. This is another team, even though they're not

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender that you you get the feeling

475
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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of a lot riding on what

476
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Speaker 1: happens this year, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah,

477
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: there's some really good secondaries too in that division. But

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Speaker 1: I loved the pickup of t J. Hockenson. He's a

479
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: really good blocker and he can catch two, so he's

480
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: a perfect combo tight end for them. They shows some

481
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: organizational onions too, like because they whipped well, they didn't

482
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Speaker 1: whiff on Ericibrun because he turned out to be a

483
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: big time player in the system. Well he turned into

484
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: a star. But them not teams don't typically take a

485
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Speaker 1: tight end top ten. They do it twice in six years.

486
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: But the two Iowa tight ends. They both went high,

487
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: and they both they're very much like George Kittle. I mean,

488
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: it's just like the Iowa side end thing. Let's extend

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Speaker 1: ten seconds, Greg, I'm sorry, I was stepped up. Now

490
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Speaker 1: forget it. Talk about the Lions defensive the other day. Okay,

491
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Speaker 1: here we go Chicago Bears. The old Zeuser will dig

492
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Speaker 1: in on the Bears, and uh, you know this? To me,

493
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Speaker 1: this draft is like what happens when the bill comes due.

494
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Speaker 1: The Khalil Mack trade, which um was it eight trade?

495
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: It looks like a great trade. It looked like a

496
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: great trade last last summer. It still looks like it, um,

497
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: because not only is the Hall of Fame talent, but

498
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: he performed like one in year one. But now they

499
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: have a reverse Gruden situation where this draft, you know,

500
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: well it remains to be seen. But they didn't pick

501
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Speaker 1: till the third round. They get David Montgomery seventy three

502
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Speaker 1: overall running back. Uh. Their fourth round pick is a

503
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Speaker 1: Georgia wide receiver Riley Ridley, which I didn't I didn't

504
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Speaker 1: see a ton of buzz around him as a big

505
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Speaker 1: prospect and a draft that didn't have a lot of

506
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Speaker 1: buzz at the wide receiver position period, So in the

507
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: second round, well he didn't. And so I guess my

508
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: point being is, listen, that's the way it is. You you

509
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Speaker 1: you trade draft assets to get players, you're gonna eat

510
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Speaker 1: it on the on the draft side potentially. So if

511
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Speaker 1: this is a draft class that doesn't give them much

512
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: and we'll find out, but it's you know, working against

513
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Speaker 1: you when you don't have the first two picks. Um

514
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Speaker 1: is the roster strong enough not to have a big

515
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Speaker 1: offseason hall because they did make a lot of moves

516
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: in free agency either, So the Bears essentially are telling us,

517
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: we like this team. We're making you know, we're making

518
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: minor moves, but we believe it's ready to take the

519
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: next step. Um, we'll see how it plays out. But

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00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: that's how you read this offseason. I think I totally agree.

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Speaker 1: And they went into the off season knowing that I

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Speaker 1: believe they had twenty or twenty one of their twenty

523
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Speaker 1: two starters under contract for the next year. And and

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00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: that's great, it's continuity. It's rare in the NFL. I'm

525
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: always a little wary about a team that a is

526
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: bringing back the same crew and expecting it to say

527
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Speaker 1: at the same level, especially when you lose Big Fangio

528
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: and then be the biggest question on the team is

529
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: your quarterback, which is absolutely the case for me in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: I think their biggest loss was losing Big Fangio. Now

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Speaker 1: they have to Bokano there, and yeah, they have some

532
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: really talented guys on the defense, but I wonder if

533
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: that's if we're going to see a fall off at all.

534
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: I see this team totally different than you guys do

535
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: and their off season. If their offense isn't much better,

536
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be a disappointment when you add corderol

537
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Pattern and David Montgomery and Riley Ridley and even Mike Davis,

538
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: who is okay. But it's I thought Matteggi explained it well.

539
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: The reason why when he talks about Jordan Howard not

540
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: fitting his offense, and we heard that for the past

541
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: fourteen months, Jordan Howard doesn't fit his offense, it's about matchups,

542
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: and when you evaluate players as a coach, I think

543
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: it's not just what was the production, is what does

544
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: this player allow me to do allow my quarterback to do.

545
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard did not allow him to play matchups and

546
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: now with David Montgomery who can play in the passing game,

547
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: with Cordarrell Patterson who can play in the running or

548
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: the passing game with Riley Ridley, and even a guy

549
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: like Marvin Hall who they got from the Falcons, who

550
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: runs a four or three something, he can put him

551
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: out for four or five routes a game and play matchups.

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00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: I think this allows Matteneggy to do so many more

553
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: different things that he wanted to do. Ye if I mean,

554
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: but it's throwing dark these mid round picks. If they

555
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: if these guys can play at this level, that's all. CORDORL.

556
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: Patterson of Fantastic Cordell Patterson was like he was like

557
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: I thought he personified last year's Patriots. They got good

558
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: when they started featuring stupid is getting pissed. Respect the

559
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: hard sons of the hobby. Alright, Greg, hit us up, baby.

560
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers, we amazingly have been in the

561
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: news for defense, and we've talked about their defense so

562
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: much and how much Mike Patton's loaded that. Now that

563
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: we got past the draft, I feel comfortable enough to

564
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: say I think this is this is the worst supporting

565
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: cast Aaron Rodgers has had uh, in a long time.

566
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe in his career. If you look at the

567
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver depth and Jimmy Graham is not getting me

568
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: excited at tight end, and the offensive lines had some

569
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: great moments the last few years, and back trs maybe

570
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: the best left tackle on the league, but after that,

571
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm not that excited right now about the line either.

572
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: So it's really all on Rogers and Matt Lafleur and

573
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Hackett and that should that could be plenty. I mean,

574
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady goes into seasons with with less than

575
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: this and they do great, maybe that's plenty. But I

576
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: do you think just in terms of raw talent around him,

577
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: this is about as baron as it's been for Rogers

578
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: in the last five to ten years. I think my

579
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: biggest question with the Packers is, how is everybody going

580
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: to mesh? How is Aaron Rodgers and Matt la Flour

581
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: going to get along? How are all of these pieces

582
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: that they've added on defense? It's a lot of new

583
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: pieces for Mike Petton. How did they all come into play?

584
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: They brought in Zadarius Smith and Preston Smith. They added

585
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Speaker 1: Adrian Amos, So you look at all of these different

586
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: pieces Rashan Gary. They added in the draft Darnell Savage.

587
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Like I just wonder how all of them are going

588
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: to fit together. And like you said, the past catchers

589
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: his Aaron Rodgers. Only dude there is Davante Adams. He

590
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: really didn't show any real chemistry with any of those

591
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: rookie receivers last season. I wrote about this in the

592
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: mail bag which went up live on nfl dot com

593
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: slash Hansas. UH. Packison was worried about the offense, and

594
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: I guess, wouldn't you take a step back. What did

595
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: the Packers do this offseason? I think, yes, they invested

596
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: heavily in the defense, but I think it was also

597
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: an endorsement of both Rogers and a new brain trust

598
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: and a new thinking on offense, UH with a young

599
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: head coach um in Matt Lafleur, and this idea, we

600
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: believe in these guys, these young guys, and we believe

601
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: Rogers in the last two years sucked, but we believe

602
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: that he's gonna put it together. And if you if

603
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: if Rogers can do that and la Fleur can do

604
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: that one minute, then then the defense gets better. All

605
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're back in the playoffs. It's almost

606
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: like in and I know they would never do this,

607
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: but it's almost like the front office and maybe even

608
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Rogers too. It's like they're trying to prove, Hey, we're

609
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: gonna win with Mike McCarthy's players. We're gonna show you

610
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy was the problem by basically bringing back

611
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: the same offense and being way better. I think there's

612
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: something to that. They know Valdez Scantony can play. He

613
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: had like a hundred yard games and three of his

614
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: first four or five. Pretty impressive for a rookie. Allison's had.

615
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: Like even though I'm saying it's the the least that

616
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers has had around him in last decade, I still

617
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's that bad. Like I don't think it's

618
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's both like way below league average

619
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Speaker 1: or anything. I just really like Equanimius st. Brown's name.

620
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: Too strong strong name. I have one last. It's like

621
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: the harp of names um Geronimo, Allison, equantimiusquantum Et Brown,

622
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: and Marquez Valda's Scantling fifty five letters total. Just counted

623
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Speaker 1: that up. That's what you've been doing. So I wasn't

624
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: totally plugged into that last minute. Let's move to the

625
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: NFC South. Um. Okay, started off with the Bucks here,

626
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Speaker 1: you'll never be the enormous box I really hope not. Okay,

627
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Here we got good. So it was a defensive heavy

628
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: draft for them. Their defense ranked last year. Now they

629
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Speaker 1: have Todd Bowls. They have a lot of new pieces.

630
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: There are a lot of new UH coaches with Bruce Arians,

631
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: but Todd Bowles is going to bring in some more

632
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: kind of three for looks. They drafted Devin White, who

633
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: I love. They got him with the fifth overall pick.

634
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: He replaces another fellow l s u Alum in quality,

635
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 1: Kuan Alexander linebacker. They got a pair of corners um

636
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: and a safety. So my biggest takeaway for the Bucks

637
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: is Ken Bruce Arians save this ship. I have a

638
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: lot of questions, actually, can Kenny save the ship? Uh? Huh?

639
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: And Willie get more out of Jamis Winston and Willie

640
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: send Gerald McCoy away. I feel like there's a lot

641
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: of questions just surrounding this team in general. I think

642
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: you will. I don't know if he'll save the ship,

643
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: but I think he'll get more out of Jamis Winston.

644
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: If he can't, then I don't know who can. To me,

645
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: if you look at arians as track record, who he

646
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: succeeded with in the NFL, and the quarterbacks like Winston

647
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: could not have hand picked a better guy to help

648
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: his career out. So for the for the people out

649
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: there like me who who still believes Winston can have

650
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: a good NFL career, like Arians is is sent from heaven.

651
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: That's true. It's not amall thing to lose to Sean

652
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: Jackson and Adam Humphries from an offense that was gangbusters

653
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: early last year because you had so many options. You

654
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: had the two tight ends and then you had four

655
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers and now you're down to what two and

656
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: a half wide receivers in in the tight ends and

657
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: you still don't have a running back. They love Peyton Barber,

658
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: but he seems to me more like a try hard

659
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: guy than than a playmaker. Before O. J. Howard went

660
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: down with a season ending injury late in December, he

661
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: was really emerging as a potential stud Absolutely, so if

662
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: you if you, if he continues that trajectory, I could

663
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: change that entire offense to be He's the closest thing

664
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: to a Gronk like complete tight end that there is

665
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: in the in the league. I don't know if he

666
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: can get anywhere near that level, but he's that type.

667
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: I was disappointed that they didn't do anything with the

668
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: offensive line. I thought that that was a big issue

669
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: for them and they didn't address it at all in

670
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: the draft. I do like that we're already getting the

671
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: articles of like Javis Winston's really taking control of the huddle.

672
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Again is that time of year, but we're also about

673
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: a week away from Jamis Winson is displaying a maturity

674
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: that we just simply haven't seen in this building in

675
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: the first three years. Grown up a lot, He's made mistakes,

676
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: but he's learned from them. The the Gerald McCoy thing

677
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: is hanging over this team that they still might trade him.

678
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: But if they don't, you know, Bowl's has a lot

679
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: of talent to work with between JPP, who had a

680
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: nice year, McCoy, Vita Vea came on late in the year,

681
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett was a free agent signing who I liked

682
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: a lot. That the secondary has been among if not

683
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: the worst in the entire NFL for a while, and

684
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: they've just put so many resources into it. And it's

685
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: never worked. I can't wait to see who comes back

686
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: in the best shape of their lives. Like, I'm real excited,

687
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: Carl Nassa, keep pounding West. I would like to take

688
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: this opportunity to talk about how different evaluations are in

689
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: NFL draft rooms. Albert Brier had a story where the

690
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: Panthers they drafted Will Greer, they had him ahead of

691
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, behind only Locke and Haskins. That's what they

692
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: say after they take them. The Bengals drafted Finley, who

693
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: they had ranked behind only the top four players taken

694
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: and practically even with Locke. I do I do believe,

695
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: because I think they like they see different quarterbacks fitting

696
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: their offenses differently. People want different things and quarterbacks. But

697
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: to me, like, you had Greer rated ahead of Kyler Murray.

698
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: That is so you're telling me if for some reason,

699
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: some bizarre reason, Kyler Murray was on the board when

700
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: they picked the made the Greer picked, they would have

701
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: taken Greer over Kyler Murray. Well, like, to me, it

702
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: doesn't say what they want to do on offense, which

703
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: also doesn't really make it. I don't think it's that

704
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: hard to believe. I think the five ft nine quarterback,

705
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: and nobody's ever succeeded as a first round draft nick, Like,

706
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: you know industrial complex that we base all of our

707
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: opinions on who had a good draft? Who didn't just copy? Like,

708
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: there's very little original thinking in there, and everyone is

709
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: afraid to get too far away. Whereas I think teams,

710
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: there's some teams that are all over the place, especially

711
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: at different positions, Like the Bengals might just evaluate quarterbacks

712
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: a certain way, and so did the Panthers. I don't

713
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: think that's that crazy. Yeah, look at the Seahawks. The

714
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks do that every draft. You can tell the Seahawks

715
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: draft board looks like absolutely no one else's draft board.

716
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: They're just doing whatever the help they want. Do you

717
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: want your scouting department to stand out from the crowd,

718
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: to be bold and to be forward thinking and unconventional.

719
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: You don't want somebody who's like, I gotta see which

720
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: way the winds blown before we pick? Does taking Will

721
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: Greer at overall and obviously being in love with his

722
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: ability and potential? Does? What does that mean for the quarterback?

723
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna sit well, it's gonna sit real well. Well,

724
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean, what does it mean for the long term

725
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: future potentially Kim Newton, how much pressure is on him

726
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: coming off a second shoulder surgery. Yeah, second shoulder surgery

727
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: and three years and we saw how they started the

728
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: season last year six and two and then they ended

729
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: as a seven and nine team that his shoulder was

730
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: a real problem. Like, I don't think it means anything.

731
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: Hundreds very deep in the draft, they needed to upgrade

732
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: their backup. I think smart teams should be drafting quarterbacks.

733
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots took the current Washington Redskins offensive

734
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: coordinator higher in the draft while Tom Brady was in

735
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: his like off of an MVP season, uh than than

736
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: they took Greer. Do you know who that man is?

737
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: By the way, did anyone have any idea current offensive

738
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: coordinator Kevin O'Connell drafted with the pick of the j

739
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't even remember he's got these picks the Patriots.

740
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers looked at Will Greer and said

741
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: he should have been taken a long time ago. He's

742
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: still there. We love him, and we need premium insurance

743
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: for a guy who's had shoulder issues. Shoulder, the shoulder

744
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: is a big time concern. He's basically throwing groundballs to

745
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: the sideline. By the end of December. Did you see

746
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Like the shots of him O t A

747
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: s he looks like a he Man figure like legitimately

748
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: it looks like but it's basically just Christian mc was

749
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: such a complete waste of space. I mean as a

750
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: magician and as just in general as a member of

751
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: an he just had no real purpose. He's like the

752
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: George your time and would not have been uh do

753
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: you know Shira? No? Okay, al right, here a little youngers,

754
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I don't think it didn't

755
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: matter what. You probably weren't watching he Man. All right,

756
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: let's move on to the Atlanta Falcons. Alright. So the Falcons,

757
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, they they circled it in red marker and

758
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: highlighted it. They targeted the offensive line as the biggest

759
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: weakness of their team, and they spent they've spent this

760
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: offseason rebuilding the thing. James Carton, Carpenter, come on Brown,

761
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: um Tie Sombra Leo um all signed in free agency.

762
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: And then they go to the draft and they take

763
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Chris Lyndstrom BC guard at fourteen, trade back into the

764
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: first round. Take Caleb McGarry at thirty one, and I

765
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: get the thinking. With a rebuilt offensive line, uh and

766
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: a new offensive play caller and Dirk Cutter, the hope

767
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: is that the Falcons could turn back the clock and

768
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's two thousand and sixteen again.

769
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: But the only question I have, and that all makes

770
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: some sense, I kind of like that, But the only

771
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: question is when you look at the biggest flaws with

772
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: the Falcons, maybe they underachieved on offense under Sarcasum, but

773
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: their defense just killed them last year and they just

774
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: haven't put the focus there. If I'm somebody that has

775
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: plugged into what's going on in the desert, and I

776
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: want to be somebody that makes money in the desert,

777
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm pounding the over all year on games that Falcons

778
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: are involved in, especially when they're played in that don't. Yeah,

779
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: but their defense last year was crushed by injuries. There.

780
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: They lost both their safeties, Pardo Allen and Keian O'Neill,

781
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: and Dion Jones, their middle linebacker who's like everything for them.

782
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Those three guys over missed a total of thirty eight

783
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: games combined. Right, and they weren't hurt as much by

784
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: injuries as the Super Bowl champion Eagles, So I do

785
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: think that's too much of an excuse. They should have

786
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: had more of an infrastructure where they don't fall apart.

787
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Dan like I think they have

788
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in this roster and Dan Quinn,

789
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: but it hasn't really been born out with the results

790
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: on defense. They I think they looked at the Thanksgiving

791
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: game against the Saints and said, we would be guilty

792
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: of negligence if we did not improve our offensive line

793
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: to protect Matt Ryan, who got obliterated. Right it was.

794
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: It was hardly uh, the wrong move to focus on

795
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I just I guess it's just you

796
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: can make the case that there maybe could have been

797
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more balanced in their plan of attack

798
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: and free agency in the draft. I agree with you,

799
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: it showed a lot of confidence. It is kind of

800
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of a sign of like, hey, we think this

801
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: roster is super Bowl ready. Still this is our number

802
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: one problem by far. If we fix this, we like

803
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: this team. I just feel like they've been chasing and

804
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: since the end of that season and they just can't

805
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: get back to it. But to me, yeah, I get

806
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: to me they were back to it when they lost

807
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: to the Eagles in that playoff game. It was a

808
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: different sort of team, but that team was absolutely one

809
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: of the best four or five teams in the league

810
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: at that point. We went into l A and beat

811
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: the Rams. People forget about that, and they look at

812
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: Dion Jones and Kian O'Neil and say, those are two

813
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: of our five best players and we lost him. I

814
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: get it. I feel for this team. I'm rooting for

815
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: the Falcons, you know, I just feel like getting I

816
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I want this group to get it, get

817
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: over the hump together. No, you don't get it both ways.

818
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: You don't get to crush the organization with your favorite

819
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: team for all time. That, by the way, the Falcons

820
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: will never be the same after that night. Adrian now

821
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: be like, oh, and I hope things are okay with

822
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: the Falcons going forward because I'm really rooting for them. No,

823
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: you don't get as Adrian Claiborne's back. What a sentimental story.

824
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: That's not firing anyone up. By the way, um, if you, Connie,

825
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 1: if you ever became the enormous Box, it would not change.

826
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you're trying to will this to happen

827
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: what's going on, It would not change how I felt

828
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: about you or anyone else in this room and feel

829
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: about you. Thanks, guys. I just want to make that clear, Greg,

830
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean your personality might change. She could change your saying.

831
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Are you telling me I need to go on a

832
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: diet or something? Dan? Is that what you keep bringing

833
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: it back up? I'm staying out of it. Are you

834
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: saying that I'm on my way to be coming an

835
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: enormous box? You look wonderful? No, I'm not. Erica has

836
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: buried me on this before too. Um, I'm just gonna

837
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: move on. I'm gonna get out of the way. And

838
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: and Greg, you're gonna talk about the Saints. There's not

839
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: a huge reason to believe the Saints won't be one

840
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league like this. I

841
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: guess the one question I would have with them is

842
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: are we just accepting now that their defense is good?

843
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: Because because for the first time, you know, they were

844
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: ready to go win a Super Bowl with the defense

845
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: being a huge part of that, and with with a

846
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: couple of breaks, maybe maybe they would have. I guess

847
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: I've watched them long enough, and maybe Marcus Davenport gets

848
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: better and Anteloni keeps getting better, and it really is

849
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: a great secondary. I think if you look at the

850
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: best teams in the league, they all have good secondary.

851
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: A lot of them have good secondaries, and they're very

852
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: deep there. I I'm not, just because of muscle memory,

853
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: ready to accept that they just have a good defense,

854
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: because if they do have a good evens, they probably

855
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: should be. Like the leader in the NFL for over

856
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: underwins in two thousand nineteen, I have more questions about

857
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: how Drew Brees played down the stretch than I do

858
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: about their defense. Forty year old quarterback who fell apart

859
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: over the final six weeks, fell apart is strong. No,

860
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: he could not throw beyond thirty yards. He fell apart.

861
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: He had some of the worst games of his career

862
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: down the stretch last year. They also don't have a

863
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: solid number two wide receiver on the roster at all.

864
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Alvin Kamara catches a ton of passes,

865
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: but it's real thin. After Michael Thomas, like, what are

866
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: you doing? It's kind of amazing how much you trust

867
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Breeze to cook up the right matchups

868
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: and offense good. It wasn't intentional save the ship like,

869
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: You're right, because other than that, the receiving talent doesn't

870
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: get you too excited. I mean, Jared Cook is quite

871
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: an upgrade at tight end. I know you accused me

872
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: of being a fanboy, but this guy has been a

873
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: really good player three years now. We on NFL Network

874
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: recently we talked about who are the Are the Steelers

875
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: still powerhouse? Yes, our whole three in three minutes forty

876
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: four seconds on air, But um, who can you put

877
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: in Marker West? You said, like powerhouses the team you

878
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: could put it in magic Marker. I'm putting the Saints there.

879
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Even with these concerns, even with the defense maybe not

880
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: being up to snuff for Drew Brees, not looking good

881
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I feel this team is, you know,

882
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen wins in January. I inhibitive favorites, prohibitive favorites

883
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: in net division. Absolutely, it's still a good division. It's

884
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: a deep conference. I usually don't put this much stock

885
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: into the kind of intangibles and the mental side of things,

886
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: but I do. I do wonder about getting over the

887
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: maybe the worst back to back playoff losses that we

888
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: can think for any team. I was thinking about that too.

889
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 1: The worst one thing this fuel. On the other hand, sure,

890
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can go both ways. Don't know.

891
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Maybe none of this even like matters emotional hangover. Maybe

892
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: that's something we just make up. But I'd be worried.

893
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I know the Browns had

894
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: those two terrible losses to the Broncos in the eighties,

895
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: but they weren't back to back when you talk back

896
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: to back, and it was that in New Orleans, like

897
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing they had been building towards.

898
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: Sean Bayton might still be in that dark room watching

899
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: that NFC championship over and over. I think that's not

900
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: that stuff matters much more than we think, but our

901
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: ability to predict it as much less than we think. True. Well,

902
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: put Chris Westling, that's why he's the scientist. That's why

903
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: it's a male many delivers great insight at all times. Uh. Finally,

904
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: the NFC, West get us go and Connie. All right,

905
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: let's start it off with the Niners. All right, Jimmy

906
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: g he's back from that torn a c l That

907
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: alone is a huge boost. No disrespect, Nick Mullins. J

908
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: betherd Um behind him, another recovered a c L back

909
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: on the field with Jerick McKinnon. Plus they brought in

910
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman, and they already have Matparretta on the field.

911
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: So like the running backs that they have, and they

912
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: have the most productive tight end in the league in

913
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: terms of receiving yards with George Kittle. So I think

914
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: this team could maybe have one of the biggest turnarounds

915
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: from last year to this year. Something about that seat

916
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: over there, Mark Sessler is the biggest family. It's contagious.

917
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: It is um Bark could be outside Kyle Shanahan's house

918
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: right now cleaning his car. He loves Shannon and he

919
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: loves that team. This is a hard This is a

920
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: hard team to nail down what they're gonna be. Their

921
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: defensive roster, their starting lineup on defense seems so much

922
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: better and a D line now and if Jason Barrett

923
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: can play now you've got two good cornerbacks. But that's

924
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: a huge if after he's barely played in the last

925
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: five years. Um the offense, I just I trust Kyle

926
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: Shanahan so much. But it's not like anybody in the

927
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: NFC really got worse. There are no real cup kicks

928
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: in the NFC, so it's hard to say San Francisco

929
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: is gonna start knocking teams off with ease. It seems

930
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: like they're gonna play a lot to close games, and

931
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: they could go six and ten, they could go nine

932
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: and seven. Who knows. And I know you have Kiddle

933
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: and in some depth, but your best wide receiver is

934
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: who it's probably Kittle wide receiver, right, Pettis Like, if

935
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: you told me Marque is good when finishes fourth on

936
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: this team and receiving that also would It's not shocked me.

937
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: So drafted to receivers, maybe maybe they'll provide a little

938
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: bit of spark. I wonder if someone, a veteran wide

939
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: receiver shakes off a tree somewhere, if the Niners wouldn't

940
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: aggressively seek that. I don't think they would, because then

941
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: they'd have to cut one of their young guys who

942
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: they just drafted in the top Jordan Matthews. You can't

943
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: upgrade over Joan and Matthews in two thousands. Why not

944
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: making the team? Yeah, I don't know if he's going

945
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: to be. He's not making the darting. I would put

946
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: Pettis in Taylor, but I think this is so they

947
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: are one of the most fascinating teams this year because

948
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: they're defensive town too, and then Nick Bosa that is

949
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: it is pretty intriguing. I gotta admit that they stuck

950
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: with their coordinator Robert Salah, who's you know, not produced

951
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: too well in his first two seasons. Like they're going

952
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: with continuity and I don't know, and they drafted a

953
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: punter in the fourth round. That guy is gonna be good,

954
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: Robbie Gould once out, you better be a punt. You

955
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: better be a good punt. I'm not I'm not allowed

956
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: to say this in here, but I will say it again.

957
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo has never really put together in a full

958
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: season of tape as a franchise quarterback. I'm just gonna

959
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: say it under this piece of paper. Why are you

960
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: not allowed to say that. I know everyone disagrees with me,

961
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: I actually don't. It's actually correct. I think you need

962
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: to come out and I just want to see him

963
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: play first. Now I'm with you. Throw for like four

964
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: thousand yards and like twenty nine toes showns once the

965
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: first three games last season freaked me out a little bit.

966
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: He did not play very well, all right, the Seattle

967
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks Chris Westling, Oh, I gotta talk about them. I'm

968
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: just kidding. Let me look at my notes here. Oh wow, ys,

969
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: we've figured out the rotation yet, I mean, we made it.

970
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: What is it? We've made it to like eighties seven

971
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: minutes between the two shows, and then finally Less brings

972
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: it to a hall. It feels like John Schneider played

973
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: this draft like a fiddle. You know, a week before

974
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: the draft he's got four draft picks. He ends up

975
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: making eleven picks. And yet when I look at this team,

976
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: is it crazy to say they're not even gonna be

977
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: as good as last year? After losing Frank Clark, They're

978
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: probably gonna lose Doug Baldwin. They go from j R. Sweezy,

979
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: who played really well at guard last year, to signing

980
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Mikeya Potti, who hasn't been healthy in three or four years.

981
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: To me, those are three positions where I wonder, are

982
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: you going to be as good as last year? And

983
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: I think, you know, they loose they get rid of Clark,

984
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: and there you know, they take Collier in the first round,

985
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: But where is the pass rush coming from that's not manufactured?

986
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: And then they do. Carol does as good a job

987
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: coaching up team defense as anyone, but just the pure talent,

988
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: uh in terms of the past rush and even the

989
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: secondary is not overwhelming. Geron Reid and Puna Ford played

990
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: great down the stretch from the inside, but I agree

991
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: with the edge rush. You're gonna ask a lot out

992
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: of l. J. Collie or your first round pick. Speaking

993
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: of L J. Collier, our friend the big Fish, Evan

994
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: Silva had this to say about going from Flank Clark

995
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: Frank Clark to Collier a horrifically sub optimal exchange as concerns,

996
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: but I feel like also last year the Seahawks sounds

997
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: like a punk band. Who expected the Seahawks to do

998
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: as well as they did last year. It was supposed

999
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: to be a rebuilding year for them. Greg did Megan

1000
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: mina times I had him, which is basically what she

1001
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: has the Super Bowl? Wow? What about that? Good for me?

1002
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: You know, I forget what I was saying. Now, are

1003
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: they gonna let are they gonna let Russell Wilson throw

1004
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: the ball? I mean the memory of that playoff game

1005
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: haunts me. And I'm not even a Seahawks fan. That

1006
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: they ran every first and second down. It is bruto

1007
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: to watch, and you don't need to give Schottenheimer an

1008
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: excuse not to throw the ball. And the fact that

1009
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: their number two wide receiver right now is I don't

1010
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: know DK Mettcalf for David Moore, Like that's an excuse

1011
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: to run the ball off DK Metcalf. A lot of people.

1012
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: It turns out that no things don't like that guy

1013
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 1: at all as a player. Yeah, I mean it's gonna

1014
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: be a tremendous person and what a bod. Listen, this

1015
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: is the sport that we're we cover the combine. Then

1016
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm like so in on DK

1017
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Metcalf and everybody who talks bad about him shut up.

1018
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: And I heard the phone call was awesome when Schneider

1019
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: called and he was crying and it was very sweet

1020
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: and all that. But the reason he dropped to Seattle

1021
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: is that some people don't think maybe he's gonna be

1022
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: a good pro. He better be or they they're not

1023
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna have a big hole there a wide receiver.

1024
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: If Baldwin doesn't feel back stretch the field, he's super fast,

1025
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: he really needs to work on his route running Arizona Cardinals.

1026
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: Of course, Kyler Murray represents a new beginning for Arizona

1027
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: after last year's What Really Will ended up being a

1028
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: false start, a very public false start with Josh Rosen

1029
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: and Steve Wilkes. Of course, one of the most exciting

1030
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: subplots of this year is now waiting to find out

1031
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: how good Murray is. And I love that kid bomb

1032
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: tick tick tick and Cliff Kingsbury. They're doing away with

1033
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: all that garbage about whether or not Murray is the

1034
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: Week one starter. Yeah, of course he is. He's the

1035
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: Week one starter. Spares the charade and that's great. I

1036
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: like that trying a bit of a charade with their

1037
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: We're we're very excited about Brent Hunley. Yeah. Well, okay,

1038
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: they have to be nice to people. Um. But you know,

1039
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: if Kyler Murray hits the ground running, he could turn

1040
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: the NFC upside down. That's all I have to say.

1041
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you guys if he is as

1042
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: special as some people believe. We know, certain to the

1043
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers thinks he's a piece of garage. I mean,

1044
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: it's a player, but but a lot of other teams

1045
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: think this guy is special as hell. And if he is,

1046
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: and that's this is a this is a much better

1047
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: team on paper than it was a year ago. Things

1048
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: could change a lot, and NFC West could change quickly. Well,

1049
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: it helps that he fits into Cliff Kingsbury's offense a

1050
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: lot better than Rosen. And you have Christian Kirk was

1051
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Kyler's teammate at Texas A and M, so maybe that

1052
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: will help a little bit. And I like that they

1053
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: drafted Andy Isabella, super fast guy, so you don't just

1054
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: have Larry Fitzgerald there, which was I felt like last

1055
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: year the only guy that was like available on the team.

1056
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: But I love that we have David Johnson already talking

1057
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: again about another thousand, one thousand and one thousand. Dad. Well, yeah,

1058
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Speaker 1: I mean he's he's had as good offseason as anyone.

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00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Because suddenly he's gonna have great matchups in the passing game.

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00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: He would think there's less people around the line of scrimmage.

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00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: He he should be helped out in this offense. I

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00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: think that's that to me is the question is how

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00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: air raid does Kingsberry go. People thinking Okay, this is

1064
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: gonna be a brand new NFL. I mean it's been there.

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00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean anyone watched the Chiefs last year. I mean

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00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: that this is the direction the NFL is going. But

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: how like wild is he gonna take it, how hard

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00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna put it? True? But this is also a

1069
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: grand experiment. We've never seen something like this before where

1070
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: you hire an unproven guy who got fired by his

1071
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: college team, ye, and then you draft a five ft

1072
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: nine quarterback to fit that guy's offense. It's something not

1073
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 1: a lot of franchises would have done. And it's it's

1074
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: not an untalented team. And that's the thing with the NFL.

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00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this about the Lions too. It's

1076
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: like the line between six or seven wins and ten

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00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: or eleven, it's not that big these like you look

1078
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: at the Cardinals roster up and down. The offensive line

1079
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: is pretty bad, but there's players. There's players on offense.

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00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: There's Chandler Jones and Terrell Suggs and Buddha Baker and

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00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, Jordan Hicks. It's like a lot of question

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: there's some players. It's a lot of questions, but there's

1083
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: some players here. It's not like totally talent for the

1084
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: offensive line is bad, but having Kyler Murray, who can

1085
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: get out of trouble when things are collapsing. Helps, whereas

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00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: Rosen he just got hit forty five times, lash and

1087
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: get into trouble, right right, True, it works both ways.

1088
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: West over under Lar Fitzgerald seventy two and a half catches,

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Speaker 1: I'll go over. I'm a Larry Believer, one of my

1090
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: favorite players of all time. I'm never gonna doubt that.

1091
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: Trying to think who that like that? The harp song

1092
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: as it starts reminds you of maybe like a Diana

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00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: Ross t It has a there's a Beatles song too

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking of. Um hey, but a quick pause

1095
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: before we wrap up with the Rams. One bit of

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00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals news that they reportedly have declined defensive lineman Robert

1097
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: kim d J's fifth year option. And to mark the occasion,

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to sing a song if you guys don't mind, Yeah,

1099
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: Ricky kim d he he change. Why did you fall

1100
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: out that window? It changed your whole life? You fail?

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00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: We all fell okay, no pick up option. You had

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: the shouldn't not to stand by that window, but you

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00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: liked the view? Kim d Why did you fall out

1104
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: that ween? Though? It changed for our whole life. You

1105
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: felt we all fell down? How long do you work

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: on that? So? I was late, beautiful, beautiful rendition. Um,

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: I felt like there was it was deep. There's a

1108
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: lot of meaning beyond just it was. It took me

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00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: to a place when I was writing it. It took

1110
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: me the dorm room. I'm complaint, Yeah, becauld he use

1111
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: a little more harp M, I'm gonna harp this. This

1112
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: window incidents five years old. You need to let go.

1113
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: Kim d J has tried to put it behind him.

1114
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: You won't let him as the song. As the song states,

1115
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: it changed the course of his life. Yeah, I think

1116
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: everything changed. He stood by that window and everything changed

1117
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: for all of us. That's how life works. Sometimes it's

1118
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: it's sad and it's scary how your life can totally

1119
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: change based on one decision that seems totally inconsequential. That

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Speaker 1: guy doesn't go falling out that window, everything could be different.

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00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: Ram the rams, uh, you know. They they're hoping that

1122
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: everything didn't change on one day, you know, last February.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that that's been the vantage point

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Speaker 1: in this in this room and beyond. I don't think

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Speaker 1: everything did chance. I mean, they're gonna remember that that's

1126
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna be painful forever. But I don't think it changes

1127
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: anything about the fact that they're one of those teams

1128
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Speaker 1: that I'm writing in magic marker into the playoffs that

1129
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: I think they're about as big a favorite to win

1130
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: this division as just about any team is to win

1131
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: any division, because I think they're just really solid all

1132
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: the way through. You can't find a huge weakness. And

1133
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: I like how, similar to the Saints and the Patriots,

1134
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: they are so deep in the secondary. I think that's

1135
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: a big trend in the NFL right now to have

1136
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: match up players that can match up one on one

1137
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: in different you know, against different formations that you can

1138
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: deal with the Texas Tech air raid type of stuff,

1139
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: so that you can have the right cornerback or safety.

1140
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: And they added who did they add this officer, Taylor

1141
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: Rapp and David Along in the draft, and then Eric

1142
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: weddle Uh in free agency to replace Joyner, And I

1143
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: think it's just a good group. I don't I do

1144
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: not see weaknesses. It's a young roster overall, and I

1145
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: think they're sailing right back into the playoffs. I'm guilty

1146
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: of perpetuating that narrative that another people have that Jared

1147
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: Goff is he going to be the same after being

1148
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: completely exposed by Bill Belichick in the Super Bowl. And

1149
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: McVeigh has proven to be one of the best minds

1150
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: in football, Jared Goff has not proven to be quarterback.

1151
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: McVeigh would tell you he had a bad day at

1152
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: the office too, But Goff, in a different way, was

1153
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: exposed in the Todd Girl, I think you can't speak

1154
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: on the It wasn't just though, but yes, I know,

1155
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: I know, but he made some terrible throws and big

1156
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: spots in that game, could not make a play for them.

1157
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just saying, when you look at

1158
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: what is the future of the Rams, it does there

1159
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: is a logical scenario where it's like, yes, that's super

1160
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: Bowl loss kind of ended an era for them. It

1161
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: could also be you could be totally right that they'll

1162
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: again win eleven or twelve games and be another hard

1163
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: January out young team. They get cold. It's tired to

1164
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: ask the question how they how they bounce back from that?

1165
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: And the Rams go as Todd Gurley goes like, is

1166
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: his knee okay? Is his mind okay? I feel like

1167
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: the c J. Anderson stuff. When he came in and

1168
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: he went off. I feel, like, you know, Todd Gurley,

1169
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: I think that kind of affected him a little bit

1170
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: mentally too. Give the Pat's defense some credit. Not that

1171
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: I am not taking anything away around the NFC. Okay,

1172
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: And here's what I'm saying is like they lost, they

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01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: lost a few offensive alignment. I think they replaced him

1174
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: with drafts. I mean, I think I think in with

1175
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: with cut back, they brought back Fowler, which I think

1176
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: was a good move overall. I just look at this

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01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: team and I actually think that there's still maybe the

1178
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: best roster in the NFL, like they probably are. They're

1179
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: the team I feel the most safe will be in

1180
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Them and the Patriots. We'll copy of the

1181
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: same They got so many holes. I want to copy

1182
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: the same play. Who's playing inside linebacker next to Corey

1183
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: Littleton Kenna Matthews. Can the two draft picks who has

1184
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: never played in the NFL start on the offensive line.

1185
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of questions. Is Jared golf like

1186
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: he hasn't made a good game basically since that Chiefs

1187
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: I think couple will be fine. By the way, I mean,

1188
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: I feel you see guys come back from a c

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Speaker 1: l S all the time and losing him a huge deal, right, right, okay,

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: respect to her, Fine, fine, fine, great work, guys. We

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: went around the NFC eight ish minutes, right, the whole

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01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: forty eight minutes. Tag is, do you really want to

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: know how around the nc because I'll tell you we

1194
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: did about five minutes off the top where it about

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01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: one oh two. Now, so I'm not good at math,

1196
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: but you guys can figure it out. It was like

1197
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Speaker 1: fifty five minutes or something. That's not bad. It's probably right.

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Speaker 1: What do you say, one o two minus five? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so fifty seven, that's not bad. I mean the goal

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01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: was forty eight. You just put an asterisk next to it. Well,

1201
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: you gotta free show, how about that? Yeah? That way

1202
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: you gotta leave room for some one n d too.

1203
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: We had to stop down for team dates. It needed that.

1204
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: Um and that dude that complained, well, I guess what,

1205
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 1: I guess complaining works out. So there was That's what

1206
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Speaker 1: my mom told. My mom told me my whole life

1207
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Speaker 1: that the squeaky wheel does get greased, and that's what

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Speaker 1: that dude did. Yeah, just that's a great squeaking. He

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: got greased. I mean, it might be sending the wrong

1210
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: message to our listening. One complaint, guys could totally change

1211
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: your next show to just just send them along. But

1212
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. People complain all the time. That's true

1213
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: about our show and everything else. You never know which

1214
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: one's gonna get through. So don't think now that you, uh,

1215
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna open the floodgates. Keep complaining if you want,

1216
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: but we're gonna ignore almost everything. But this is look

1217
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: at it, this one. Just send them all to Erica,

1218
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: Send them on to me. I'll be happy to deal

1219
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: with you. Want to parse them out, absolutely, I'll be happy.

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Speaker 1: Did do it, Erica and West We could read complaints.

1221
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a nice offseason show. I want to be

1222
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: here for it, all right, that would be a good show.

1223
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: We're running out of time with you, right because the sun?

1224
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: Why am I dying? What do you mean? The Summer

1225
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: of Connie is condition? The boxes can confirm can confirmed

1226
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Speaker 1: for the Existential podcast. The boxes sharp around the edges.

1227
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Speaker 1: It's not like some Amazon delivery guy throwing it over

1228
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Speaker 1: a fence and all of a sudden there's a dent

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01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: in it. It is not a mangled box. Anyway, what

1230
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: are you starting your vacation time? What do you mean

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Speaker 1: it already started? A right? Yeah, Well, we'll try to

1232
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Speaker 1: get you in here whenever we can. We love having you. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm back whenever. Erica. You killed it today. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: you killed it last night at softball. You had a

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Speaker 1: major home run. Dan, Dan killed it last night. West,

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: you did great too. But Dan, he really he pulled

1237
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: through when we needed him. He's got that clutch gene.

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01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: You know, he had the big hit that was on

1239
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: the script that tamp post was reading. I turned on

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01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: a three one pitch and you know, put one over

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01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: the left field and his head. Forget about two two

1242
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: bases to two runners on. But you gotta the gout.

1243
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: The power hitter has to swing in that situation, not

1244
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: take a walk when there's two outs and runners in

1245
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: scoring position. I heard West two. I was in the

1246
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Speaker 1: box three one. West reminded me, Hey, don't let this go.

1247
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Speaker 1: If it's close, you better swing it. Guess what, Zeuser

1248
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: didn't let it go. You got an RBI mindset. Hey,

1249
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: the nerds haven't gotten rid of the RBI yet on

1250
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: our team. Really, Hey, the nerds can try, But driving

1251
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: in runners is a skill did not expect and with

1252
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Speaker 1: the anti analytic uh I love analytics, just don't beat

1253
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Speaker 1: dogmatic about it. Um all right, we will be back

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Speaker 1: uh three weeks, three shows next week, right, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, so we'll be best in time for there

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Speaker 1: to be no news at off. Let's do it Monday.

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Speaker 1: We're back Monday. We are back with another episode of

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Speaker 1: the show. So please uh tune in that comment uh

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Speaker 1: and star over on um iTunes. Send your complaints, send

1260
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: your complaints to West and uh just west, just west,

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Speaker 1: uh and check out the round the NFL subrun it growing.

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Speaker 1: We're about eleven thousand now, I believe that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good number. And that's it. Let's go. Stan Hands is

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Speaker 1: signing off four the Tiny Box Forever and Always, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood behind the Glass stilm

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Speaker 1: Under