1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Today we are answering your listener questions. That's right, We've 3 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: got listener questions and we're gonna provide some answers. We're 4 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna type those answers right through your earbuds, into your ears, 5 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: into your brains, straight down into your hearts. Hey, maybe 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: we're going straight through bone conduction if you're using aftershocks 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: like I do. It's been a minute since we've talked 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: about that. He's still enjoying those bone conduction headphones. I 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: love him. I was just trying to commit your wife 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: to get some the other day. I think it would 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: be a good product for her because her ears are 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: so small that any earbud she tries tries to use 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: it hurts because she get the ears of a toddler. 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: She kind of does really small. And I had the opposite, 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: like my ear holes what I like to call the 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: front porch of your ear, you know, like it's like 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: that little area outside of your ear that can hold 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: an earbud. Online, Dude, it's huge. Like I can't hardly 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: find an ear but that I can use, because they 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: all just kind of just fall out of my ear, 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, Like that's why I like the in the 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: ear headphones that kind of plug into your ear canal. Yeah, 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I still just don't like unless you get the base 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: putting this stuff in my ear, so either like over 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: the ear or like the aftershocks. And and maybe the 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: work for your wife a little tangent for folks. But yes, 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: we do have a listener questions this episode, and I'm 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: looking forward to getting to some of these questions. Man, 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna answer one about taking time off to spend 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: some time with your baby, you know, taking time away 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: from work, saying no to money in order to value 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: some of that time, some things to consider their We 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: like money, but we like some things more than money, 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: like our babies. Absolutely. And we're also gonna take a 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: question too as to whether or not a helock is 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: going to be the right decision or the or the 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: right product for this couple. And we're also going to 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: answer a question about spending money on preparing for emergencies, 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: not like an emergency fund, but like literal prepping. So 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to getting to that one, plus a 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: couple of others. But Joel, before we get to our questions, 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you abouts. I don't know if 43 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: you've ever seen this part of my driveway, but there's 44 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: a section of the driveway that that was cut and 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: removed when we were building up the basement here, and 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: for a while has bothered me. And finally I was like, 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm you know, I want I want 48 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: that fixed. There had been dirt there, uh, and it's 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: right at the bottom of the steps, so the girls 50 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: kind of track the mud and dirt, you know, they 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: take it up the steps, you know. In the end, 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this, this needs to be fixed. 53 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: And I also knew that this isn't something I've ever 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: done before, like pouring concrete, like pouring a slab. I mean, 55 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: this isn't a massive slab or anything. It's it's actually 56 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: pretty small, but it's not something I've ever done myself. 57 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: I was a little intimidated. Even just the idea of 58 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: doing it kind of overwhelmed me. But I thought, you 59 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: know what, dude, this is something I can do. I 60 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: read the instructions, I'll watch a YouTube video, and then 61 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: I went for it, and you know what, dude, it 62 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: turned out really really well. Yeah, I was I was 63 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: really proud of myself. I never done any concrete work 64 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm not a concrete guy, but I 65 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: am now. But this reminds me. It makes me think 66 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: of a lot of the things we encounter in our life. 67 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: How we think, well, that's just not what I do, 68 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't do that professionally, or I don't know 69 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: anything about that. But there are so many things in 70 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: our lives, like our personal finances, that were we to 71 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: just go for it, where we to just try it, 72 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: and you know, when the sticks are relatively low, it's 73 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: something that we can figure out ourselves, and in the 74 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: end we're thinking to ourselves, was it really that easy? 75 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: You know, like it's something that we've built up in 76 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: our minds as being this kind of overwhelming thing, but 77 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: in reality, it's not all that hard. Yeah. And and 78 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: YouTube of course can help provide some instant expertise, which 79 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: it helped helped you out in this situation. But yeah, 80 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: I completely agree. I think there's so many more things 81 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: in our lives that we should be saying yes to, 82 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: that we should be giving a shot. I don't know 83 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: that's the case for me too, man. I get intimidated 84 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: by different projects around the house, and sometimes I just 85 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: avoid them, sometimes for years. But when I actually finally 86 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: get around to doing something that I was previously scared of, 87 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: like replacing a toilet or whatever, I'm like, oh, wait, 88 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: that wasn't that bad. Like it's now you're a toilet 89 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: replacement right, Like it's on your resume. Yeah, exactly, And 90 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: people like instantly hire me when they see that for 91 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: any job I'm applying for. It's it's amazing book him now. Yeah. 92 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: But it's those kind of things where I always do 93 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: think after I do it, Wow, that was a lot easier, 94 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: and I thought it was to be. And I'm surprised 95 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: that I let it be this like mental roadblock for 96 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: for so long. Yeah, And that's the thing. It really 97 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: is mental because I feel like oftentimes when I find 98 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: myselves in those situations and I actually take steps to 99 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: getting the thing done, it's because I haven't overthought it, 100 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, Like when I sit there and I over analyze, 101 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: it just slows me down and and oftentimes it means 102 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't do something. So I guess I wanted to 103 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: share that because I mean, that's our goal for the show. 104 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the reasons we started the 105 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: show because we want to essentially like demystify these conversations 106 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: surrounding our money. It's like, oh, retirement is really that simple. 107 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: It's like these two simple steps and that's all it 108 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: takes for me to start saving towards my retirement. Cool. Uh, 109 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: those are the kind of conversations that we have, and 110 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: those are the kind of breakthroughs that I think we 111 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: want our listeners to have when they realize in reality, 112 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: this is way easier than I thought. Now you're starting 113 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: to sound like Tony Robbins with your breakthrough talking over there. 114 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: We all know that you've got that Tony Robbins like 115 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: life size poster on the back of your door, plus 116 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: the bumper stick. Gotta be like Tony. You gotta let 117 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: everybody know. Uh, I'm just kidding. Really, I don't know 118 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: much about Tony Robbins. But all right, Matt, let's move 119 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: on and let's mention the beer that we're having on 120 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: today's show. This one is called Baked Goods. It's a 121 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: blueberry lemon cobbler sour beer by Atlanta Brewing Company. The 122 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: kind folks over there toss this beer our way. We're 123 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: looking forward to sharing it on today's episode. But for now, Matt, 124 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: let's get onto the topic at hand. We're answering listener 125 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: questions and for anybody out there listening who's like man, 126 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I would love to have Matt and Joel tackle my 127 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: money question. Well, we'd love to hear it. Just go 128 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: to our website how to money dot com slash ask. 129 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: There are simple instructions there for you to be able 130 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: to submit your question and hopefully we can tackle it 131 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: on an upcoming episode. But let's get to that first 132 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: one of the show, Matt, and this one is about 133 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: should you quit work for a little while in order 134 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: to spend time with your young children. Hey, guys, Kyle 135 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: from Mary out of here, I appreciate you taking my question. 136 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: My wife and I both work and recently had our 137 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: first child, son in December. Naturally, COVID nineteen has created 138 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: some interesting dynamics with kids, especially from a financial perspective. 139 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: If we wanted to, we could live off my income, 140 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: but it would be a trade off mainly with retirement savings. 141 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: With the latest coronavirus bill being passed, we have two 142 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: options were considering, and we wanted some advice, mainly to 143 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: make sure we're considering everything. So our question is should 144 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: we both continue to work through this year or should 145 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: one of us take six months off so we could 146 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: qualify for the stimulus as well as the increased childcare credit. 147 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: The difference between the two decisions is roughly thirteen thousand. However, 148 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: we would both be able to be home with their 149 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: son for half of the year. A little more background. 150 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: We're both thirty three this year. UM I currently work 151 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: from home and will likely work from home for a 152 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: good chunk of this year. My wife does go into 153 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: an office currently four days a week, so if she 154 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: takes six months off to stay with our child, we 155 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: will both be home and we can forego daycare. All 156 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: of our bills will be covered without changing our budget. 157 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: On either decision, we will save around of our growth 158 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: income in retirement that's four one case and I raise 159 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: as well as our h s A regardless of which 160 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: choice we make. However, if one of us chooses to 161 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: take six months off, we will save six thousand dollars 162 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: less for retirement, and that's included in the thirteen dollars 163 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: I stated earlier. We will also be saving for our 164 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: son's college in a five nine. We love our son 165 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: and we want to spend as much time with them 166 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: as possible. As we know life has a habit of 167 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: taking up our time, we also recognize this could be 168 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime opportunity and we're extremely lucky. 169 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Are we missing anything? Should we be considering anything else? Also, 170 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: we're more wine drinkers these days, but if you haven't 171 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: tried White Rascal by Avery Brewing and Boulder, Colorado, highly 172 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: recommend man. That's a great question from Kyle. You know 173 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: what my favorite thing he said was when he when 174 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: he asked this question, what's that life has a habit 175 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: of taking up our time? He did say that, Yeah, 176 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: it feels like meta existential almost. I thought you were 177 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna say that your favorite part was the fact that 178 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: he had to be a recommendation for us. I do 179 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: like beer actually, so we've had a lot of Avery 180 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: beers on the show before, but White Rascal it's one 181 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I've seen before, Like I can picture the label on 182 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the shells at our local package store, but it's not 183 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: one I've had. But it's I I know it's a 184 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Belgian wit, which is why it's called White Rascal. Yeah, 185 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: I do love Avery beer, so we'll definitely pick that 186 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: up next time we see it. I can't believe we 187 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: haven't given that one a shot yet. By the way, Kyle, 188 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: is just from my old stomping grounds, just a half 189 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: hour north of where we live here in Atlanta, Matt 190 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: And you know, it's where I went to high school, 191 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: middle school, elementary school, like whole life, from the whole 192 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: life up there in marietto Home of the Big Chicken. 193 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of defends the calling card. 194 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: WHI just like we've ever talked about it, we should 195 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: post a picture of the Big chickens three story maybe 196 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: a three story building that was built in the shape 197 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: of a chicken. It's a KFC building that was built 198 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: in like the fifties, right. I remember when I was 199 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: in like middle school or high school, they were redoing 200 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: the Big Chicken and it was like it was like 201 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: I saved the Big Chicken movement. Well, and they had 202 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: like two options, and so people were divided against which one, 203 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: like we should go with? And yeah, it was a 204 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: thing local hometown drama exactly exactly. Um, and let's get 205 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: to Kyle's question. Kyle, the fact that you'd only be 206 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: losing dollars to be able to both be off with 207 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: your son for half a year. That sounds pretty excellent, 208 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: I think, And and Matt, I'm personally in favor. I 209 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: know you are too of unconventional choices that cost you 210 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: money if you've saved well and you've thought through the 211 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: potential pitfalls of making that choice. I mean, it just 212 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: reminds me. I basically quit my first job in radio 213 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: six months after taking the job in order to take 214 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: a road trip around the country. And it's one of 215 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: those things where a lot of people, my parents included, 216 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: were like, that's not a good idea, um, And it's 217 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: still actually one of the best things I've ever done 218 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: to take that time off. And because one didn't really 219 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: love the job. I was waking up early, like way 220 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: too early, like three thirty am every morning, and I 221 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: wasn't into it. Yeah, And actually, interestingly enough, like two 222 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: weeks after I left, they ended up letting a lot 223 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: of people go and I probably would have lost my 224 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: job anyway. And so it's one of those things where, um, 225 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: I made a decision, kind of a bold decision, but 226 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I also had like a lot less to lose at 227 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: that point in time, right I was early twenties, didn't 228 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't married, didn't have any kids, and so it 229 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: was an easier decision, but it's still you know, it 230 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: wasn't an easy one. And then there were a lot 231 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: of people telling me not to do it. Yeah, but 232 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, Kyle free y'all specifically, you know, this seems 233 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: like a great opportunity. You know, that added stimulus money, 234 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: the chold care credit, this is a huge reason we 235 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: think to to jump on. Uh. You know, it's not 236 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: often that life hands you free money essentially like this. Granted, 237 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: you know over time you're gonna we're gonna have to 238 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: pay that back in taxes prices that truly free. But 239 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, for you to be able to step back 240 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: and take a mini retirement like this is great. And 241 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: for folks like you who are in a good financial position, 242 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: that's exactly what this latest bill has done, and it's 243 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: what it's gonna allow for you to do if you 244 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: decide to go that route. And in general, we feel 245 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: that many retirements are a great approach that far too 246 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: few people consider. You know, so instead of like investing 247 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: and working tirelessly so that you can spend money once 248 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: you are sixty five or what you're seven years old, 249 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: taking like a month or two or even six, uh, 250 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe a few different times along the way, say for 251 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: the birth of your first son. Congrats on that. By 252 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: the way, this can be an awesome approach. Our buddy 253 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: coach Carson has a great post on this that will 254 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: link to in our show notes. But essentially, what this 255 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: sort of does as well is it kind of gets 256 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: you in the practice of not always saying yes to 257 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: the money. Uh. It's it's sort of like a muscle, 258 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: you know, just because the money is there doesn't necessarily 259 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: mean that you should say yes to it and accept it, 260 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: especially when you're trading it for something that you might 261 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: value even more than that money, like some of this 262 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: valuable time with your new son most definitely, man, and 263 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: I think too, you do have to think about the 264 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: career implications of a move like this, And that doesn't 265 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: mean that you don't do this. I think you probably 266 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: still do it. But another big consideration is what it's 267 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: going to look like to get work on the flip 268 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: side of this break. If you work in an industry 269 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: where things are changing quickly, taking six months off might 270 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: mean that you're not nearly as valuable because you won't 271 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: be up to speed on the latest trends and innovations. 272 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: But that's not the case for other jobs where technology 273 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: isn't changing as rapidly, right, So part of your decision 274 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: should really come down to the confidence that you'll be 275 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: able to re enter the job market six months from 276 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: now based on your skills and your network before you 277 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: end up hitting pause, because an intentional six month break 278 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: could lead to maybe like an unintentional nine eleven twelve 279 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: a month break and then can you can you handle 280 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: that too? And again, it sounds like you've got good savings, 281 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: you've been intentional with your money, and you probably could 282 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: handle handle, you know, some extra additional unintentional time off, 283 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: but you want to be prepared in advance and be 284 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: thinking about what it looks like to go back to 285 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: work after that break. That's right, And Kyle, you said 286 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: to that the total difference in income might be around 287 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, who's to say that your wife wouldn't think 288 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: up of like a new dream job scenario while she's 289 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: at home, you know, like during those six months she 290 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: could maybe start consulting or think of something entirely new 291 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: or different, and you know, maybe she doesn't make a 292 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: ton now and that would still allow you to kind 293 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: of take advantage of some of the recent laws that 294 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: have passed. But maybe by next year, you know, she 295 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: could be making a good amount of money, maybe she 296 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: could even supplant her former salary, and so in that 297 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: case we would say, go for it, take the break. 298 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: You know, this is something that you might have even 299 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: done regardless of the change in the laws, but you know, 300 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: given that recent legislation, it makes the decision even easier 301 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: to to say yes to Yeah, man, I feel like 302 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: oftentimes we pack our lives so full with things to 303 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: do work included work especially, and so our brains just 304 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: don't have the free time to think about what life 305 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: could look like apart from work, Like could we launch 306 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: our own business, could we start aside hustle or start consulting? 307 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: And that's kind of actually been one of the interesting 308 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: things that we've talked about to Matt, is that a 309 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: lot of entrepreneurs have started their own budding business in 310 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: times of COVID and this could be you know, a 311 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: similar move, Kyle, for for your wife. If she's able 312 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: to be home, y'all are able to be home together. 313 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: How wonderful does that sound? And it could also offer 314 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: the mental flexibility to dream about even bigger and better 315 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: things on the horizon, including new work opportunities. Yeah, Kyle's 316 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: wife could be the CEO of the next uh new 317 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: startup focused on like the baby industry. Well, there's a 318 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: lot of money to be had in that one there. 319 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I think there's a better term for that, but you know, 320 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: generally speaking, the baby industry catering to the children. All right, Well, Kyle, 321 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: best of luck to to you and your family as 322 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: you embark on this time off. We hope it's a 323 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: really really good time for you. Guys and Matt. We've 324 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: got more questions to get to. We'll get to those, 325 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: including one about he locks versus home equity loans. Will 326 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: get to those right after this break. Al Right, we 327 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: are back from the breaking. Before we get to that 328 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: question about whether or not a helock makes sense, let's 329 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: hear from a listener who has just started investing and 330 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: has a question about his roth Ira. A. Hey, what's 331 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: up how to money? My name is Preston and I'm 332 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: based out of San Antonio, Texas. So I recently opened 333 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: up a Fidelity account along with a roth Ira. Inside Fidelity, 334 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: I am twenty years old and I cannot afford to 335 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: throw in six thousand dollars right off the bat, So 336 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: I came up with a method to where I throw 337 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: in a hundred and fifteen dollars a week into this 338 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: roth Ira and it will equivalate to six thousand dollars 339 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: by the end of the fifty fifty two week period. 340 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: And with all that being said, I'm curious as to 341 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: if I will gain the same amount of interest on 342 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: my roth Ira as someone who can afford to throw 343 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: in six thousand dollars right off the bat. I also 344 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: have one more question. I'm so sorry. Can I open 345 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: up another rath Area account? Granted I can't even afford one, 346 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: but there might be another listener out there who is 347 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: also curious about this. So I'm gonna leave you all 348 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: with all of that. Thank you all so much. Y'all 349 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: are great. I love y'all's little system. Y'all got set 350 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: up here to where I can easily ask a question. 351 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: This is great. Thanks again, guys. Man. I gotta say 352 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Preston has already been doing a great job listening because 353 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: he opened his roth Eiray at Fidelity aged twenty to 354 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: boot right. That's oppressive, dude, So congrats, Preston. I love 355 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: too how you already boiled it down to a hundred 356 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: fifteen bucks a week um and you can hit that 357 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: six thousand dollar limit over the course of the year. 358 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. And you know, to be able to max 359 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: out your wrath at the age of twenty is a 360 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: really big deal because it means you won't have to 361 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: dedicate nearly as much of your earnings towards investing later 362 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: on in life if you do it well in your 363 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: twenties and thirties. There are a lot of folks at 364 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: your age you don't even know what a roth ira is, 365 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: much less how to open one or put money in it. 366 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: So so yeah, big props, Preston. But let's get into 367 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: some of the specifics of your question. You're basically asking 368 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: whether or not it's better to invest in a lump 369 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: sum on January one instead of dollar cost averaging over 370 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: fifty two weeks, and we would say that basically that's 371 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: your only option right now. Right if you don't have 372 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: the cash on hand and you need to spread it 373 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: out by putting in a hundred fifteen dollars every week, 374 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: well that gets things taken care of. But if you 375 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: are able at some point in the future to fully 376 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: fund that rath in one fell swoop on January one. Well, 377 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea to go ahead and do 378 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: that and get it taken care of as early in 379 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: the year as you as you possibly can. And that's 380 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: because the market goes up on average two out of 381 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: every three years. Getting money in as early as possible 382 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: means that there's a greater likelihood that the money you're 383 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: putting in is gonna make money. And that info is 384 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: based on research by Vanguard. Will will put a link 385 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: to that Vanguard study in the show notes. But man, 386 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I finally for the first time opened up 387 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: plans for my kids last year, and I would in 388 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: there and I looked and they already had hundreds and 389 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars of gaines. And I was just like 390 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: just wowed at the process. Right, Like I knew exactly 391 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: how much I put in. I'm not putting in a 392 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: recurring amount every single month, and just to see like, okay, wow, 393 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: they're they're already worth you know, a decent bit more. 394 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Just I mean, it makes you feel good, Yeah, you've 395 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: got that five twenty nine playing money invested in bitcoin, 396 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: right exactly. I don't even think that's an option, but no, yeah, 397 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: that's that. I hope he didn't making an option of 398 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: a president. You know, we want you to essentially, we 399 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: don't want you to sweat the fact that you don't 400 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: have your six thousand dollars saved up by January one, right, 401 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, if you can work towards that, then that's 402 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: a great thing. I mean, essentially that's what I do, 403 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: or I mean every single month instead of I don't 404 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: do it every week, but once a month. I set 405 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: aside five bucks so that it is ready to go 406 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the next year. But but truly, 407 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm only like one year ahead of you here, and 408 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: so if you can kind of look at it through 409 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: that lens, hopefully, if that is a goal of years, 410 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: that's something you can work towards. But the far bigger 411 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: deal here is consistently getting that six thousand dollars in 412 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: each and every single year. Right. It doesn't help to 413 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: obsessed over when you're going to get that cash in, 414 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: even though you know the optimal thing is to get 415 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: it in a little bit sooner. But it truly doesn't 416 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: matter all that much. Uh, there's a lot of folks 417 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: who are fans of dollar cost averaging, uh, and they'll 418 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: note that, you know, when you do that, it helps 419 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: you to avoid some of the short term losses, you know, 420 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: so there is uh an emotional benefit of not freaking 421 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: out if the market, you know, hit some turbulence right 422 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: after you make that investment. But again, the difference between 423 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: dollar cost averaging versus lump sum investing, it's not a 424 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: huge difference you're looking at, like within that Vanguard study, 425 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: it's only a difference of about two point three percent, 426 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: And so we're not talking about the difference of like 427 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: ten percent fiftcent something that would you know, make a 428 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: massive difference in your ability to grow your money over 429 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: the future. It's something to work towards, Like, you know, 430 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: do you want to have an extra two point three 431 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: percent based on historical returns? Sure, but it's it's not 432 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: a big enough deal to kind of beat yourself up over. Yeah, man, 433 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: what you just said kind of makes me think about 434 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: somebody with a great credit score. Let's say they're like 435 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: seven eight and they really really want their credit score 436 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: to be perfect, like eight, and it's possible, right, you 437 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: could work really, really hard and you might see some 438 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: benefits from that as well. Yeah, and it's not a 439 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: bad idea to try to work as hard as you 440 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: can to make your credit score excellent, right, But I 441 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: also think when once you're at seven eighty, your golden 442 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: and that credit score is gonna take you really far 443 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: in life, um, and the difference between seven eight and 444 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: eight fifty is minimal and how it actually improves your life, 445 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: And so I think it's the same thing here. It's like, 446 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: is lump sum investing on January one the best thing mathematically? Yes, 447 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: But if the dollar cost averaging is going to help 448 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: you stick with it and help you behaviorally, then I 449 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: think dollar cost averaging is great too, So I'm all 450 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: about that. Also, to Preston asked about opening multiple Wrath accounts, Preston, 451 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: you could technically have a RATH iiarray with multiple broker's houses. 452 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that, But the six thousand dollar 453 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: total limit doesn't change. That's the amount that you can 454 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: put into any and all wrath accounts as set by 455 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: the i R S. So you could drop like two 456 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: thousand bucks into Vanguard, two thousand into Fidelity, and two 457 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: thousand with in one. But it's easier to pick one 458 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: of the low cost grates and keep as much as 459 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: you can with just a single one. We would say 460 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: that's best for simplicity. It's not like you can put 461 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: six thousand bucks every year into each one of those. 462 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: That's going to go against I r S guidelines. Who'll 463 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: be doing something illegal at that point? That's right, and 464 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: of course you want to be a law abiding citizens. Preston, 465 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: thanks so much for that question, and to keep up 466 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: the good work, Joel our. The next question, uh, interestingly 467 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: has to do with a garage. Let's hear it. Hey, 468 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: Matt and Joel. This is Kirby from have Her, Montana. 469 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: I have a question for y'all regarding setting up a 470 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: helock for some home improvements. My husband and I have 471 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: about six thousand dollars in debt that will have paid 472 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: off by June at the very latest. UM. This is 473 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: aside from mortgage on our duplex that we currently live in. 474 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: We have about equity in the property. I just refinanced 475 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: in December and UM I decided to forego the cash 476 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: out REFI option just due to the low interest right 477 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: that I received without it. UM we need about eight 478 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: to ten thousand dollars to finish the garage that my 479 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: husband needs to continue running his detailing business, along with 480 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: a new fence. Due to the work involved, UM, everything 481 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: essentially has to be done at the same time. We 482 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: could have this money saved up by the end of 483 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: the summer, but getting extensive outdoor work done in the 484 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: fall is kind of a gamble in Montana, UM, the 485 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: weather doesn't like to cooperate when you want it to. Also, 486 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: the improvements to the garage would include insulation and heat, 487 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: which would be essential from my husband's business and his 488 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: hobbies in the winter. So my question is, UM, would 489 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: getting a heelock or a home equity loan while still 490 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: in debt be irresponsible? UM? And if not, which one 491 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: better suits this situation? And what would you suggest looking 492 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: for in a lender UM as far as rates and fees? 493 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Thank you all for your advice. Hey Kirby, thanks for 494 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: that question, and we are glad to hear that you're 495 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: able to lock in a low interest rate during like 496 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: what might be the lowest rates we will see in 497 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: our lifetime. Right and by the way, too, she mentioned 498 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: that they are in a duplex, which means their house 499 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: hacking right when you're in a duplex. That means you're 500 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: living in half of it and you've got tenants in 501 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: the other half. Hopefully they're paying most, if not all, 502 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: of the mortgage. So Kirby, good job there, house hacking rocks. Yeah. Yeah, 503 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: So so taking out a helock makes sense here in 504 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: order to pull that off quickly. Uh and you know, 505 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: to tackle that project now, you know, given that rough 506 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: Montana weather, we think that's a good idea if your 507 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: husband is committed to the detailing business and you know 508 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: you're not using the business as an excuse for for 509 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: kind of making an upgrade to the house. Uh. And 510 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, we're cool with the helock if it's allowing 511 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: you to make money elsewhere. This is something where you 512 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: kind of need to have an honest conversation with yourself 513 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: something to kind of consider it and keep in mind 514 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: because we don't want you, you know, spending money on 515 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: on lifestyle and consumption under the guise of know we're 516 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: doing this for the business. It's like, okay, because I 517 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: mentioned that, because she's kind of slid in the hobbies 518 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: thing in there. You know, she's like, this is gonna 519 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: be good for my husband's business and hobbies, and we're 520 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: all for you know, pursuing hobbies, but we want to 521 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: make sure that you're doing it in a responsible way, 522 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: that you're not financing your hobbies and that truly, what 523 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: you're doing here is kind of increasing away for you 524 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: to make money because you know, you're talking about heating 525 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: the garage, like you could put a couple of heaters 526 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: in there, and heaters don't cost you know, eight that's true. Yeah, yeah, 527 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: I will say too, though at least Kirby wasn't like, hey, 528 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: we might take like a vacation to Sahati is also 529 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: nice during the winters of Montana. Maybe we'll take to 530 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: vacations like That's sometimes I think where where a lot 531 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: of people, especially with rates this low, there may be 532 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: considering taking money out in order to take a nicer 533 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: trip or to fund some of that lifestyle spending like 534 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about matt Um. But Kirby and her partner, 535 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: it sounds like are looking to do just improvements to 536 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: the home and that is the perfect use for a 537 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: home equity line of credit or a home equity loan 538 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: if you can afford it. Right, it sounds like they're 539 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: being smart about it and given to the fact that 540 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: they've got some debt, but they've got a plan to 541 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: have that paid off. She said, like at you know, 542 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: by June at the latest, Like it sounds like they 543 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: are on the ball. They've got things figured out, they've 544 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: got a plan, so it doesn't necessarily look like they're 545 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: going to be the ones to kind of uh inflate 546 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: their lifestyle, you know with this. He lock right, and 547 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: so Kirby, on that note, we would say one of 548 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: the really important things in this is to find the 549 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: right lender, So we would we would suggest geting quotes 550 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: from a few different institutions, including a local credit union 551 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: or two. We like credit unions a whole lot. We've 552 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: talked about it before, um and last time I went 553 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: looking for helock, though, Matt, the rate I found was 554 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: best was being offered by a regional bank. They had 555 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: the best offer around and they had a great intro rate. 556 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: So basically like I could get a lower interest rate 557 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: for I forget if it was six months or a 558 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: year um and at the same time, I wasn't charged 559 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: a dimond. Closing costs for fagetting that loan, and those 560 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: costs can vary widely between different lenders and kind of 561 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: what promotions that they're that they're offering at the time. 562 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: But Kirby, I would suggest researching rates and check for 563 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: int doctory offers that could sweeten the deal. And this 564 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: is actually a chance to for as you're getting these quotes, 565 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: to go back to an institution whose offer was just 566 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: okay and be like, well, I'm getting this over here 567 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: and I'd love to go with you. Guys. Can you 568 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: match it? Can you beat it? And you can kind 569 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: of pit lenders against each other. You can totally ask 570 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: for a discount and ask for fees to be waved 571 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: in order to score yourself a better deal on this 572 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: helock or home equity loan. Yeah. Well, on that note, 573 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: fees are essentially everything here, right Uh. There are going 574 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: to be different fees or penalties that a lender might charge, 575 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: and so that's something to be aware of. Like, some 576 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: lenders won't charge you any closing costs if you keep 577 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: that helock active for a certain number of years. Um, 578 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: you don't even have to take any money out. You 579 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: just can't close it down in activity fees or something 580 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: else you want to be aware of, you know, So 581 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: if the lender wants to charge you for not taking 582 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: money out. That's something you're gonna want to avoid early 583 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: closure or pre payment penalties or something else that you 584 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: want to avoid, especially to since it sounds like you're 585 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: gonna be able to pay this line of credit off quickly. 586 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: You don't want to owe a bank extra money just 587 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: because you didn't need it for long. So this is 588 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: an instance where being aware of those fees and also 589 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: being aware of some of those you know, promotional discounted 590 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: rates for a certain amount of time, you could really 591 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: benefit because if you if you have a plan, you 592 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: know that you're gonna be able to knock that out, 593 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: say in six months, and they've got this crazy low 594 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: offer where you know it's good for you know, for 595 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: for six to eight months or something like that. Uh, 596 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: and you know that if you all really get after it, 597 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: you could you could completely wipe that out. The details 598 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: and the rates and the fees they make all the 599 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: difference in the world. Yeah, and Matt too, considering their 600 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: time frame, a helock makes a whole lot more sense 601 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: than a home equity loan, right, Yes, And that's because 602 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: helocks are simpler and often can come with fewer fees 603 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: that the rate on the home equity loan is locked, right, 604 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: so you know what you're paying over the whole entire 605 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: life that you have that loan, Whereas the rate on 606 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: a helock is floating, and that scares some people to 607 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: have a floating rate, right. And two, there's a potential 608 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: that we're going to see rates start to rise, and 609 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: so taking out a helock could feel like a gamble 610 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: to a lot of And that's why the time horizon 611 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: is so important. When you're determining which one of these 612 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: products is right for you. It's really important to know 613 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: your payback period before you make the decision. And since 614 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're gonna be borrowing a minimal amount 615 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: of money, Kirby, ten grand or less and you'll be 616 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: able to pay it off in short order, the heatlock 617 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: is going to be your best bet because you're gonna 618 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: be able to get that joker paid off before your 619 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: rate starts to take up in a meaningful way. All right, Well, 620 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: Kurby thinks so much for that question, and we hope 621 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: we were able to get your pointed in the in 622 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: the right direction. Joel, You know that was a question 623 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: about a renovation. Right after the break. We're gonna get 624 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: to a question about a full on, brand new house. 625 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: Let's hit that one up next. Alright, we'll back to 626 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: get a couple more questions left, and I'm really excited 627 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: about the when we're gonna tackle after this one about 628 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: emergency preparedness on a budget. But this next one is 629 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: interesting too. How can you use a credit card effectively 630 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: when you're building a home that's expensive? Hey? How the money? 631 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: Maybe from New Brunswick, Canada that I'm just looking for 632 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: the best credit cards to optimize for either points or 633 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: cash back. My wife and I will be building our 634 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: new home this summer, and UH, we're looking to get 635 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: the best bang for our buck. We were also wondering 636 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: if we should consider an extremely high limit on a 637 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: specific card. I guess we're just looking for your thoughts 638 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: on on this and trying to optimize uh in the 639 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: next coming months. And Uh, I guess if you want 640 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: to try a beer in New Brunswick, I recommend the 641 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Tire Shack Full Service Double. I p simply that the 642 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: best double you'll ever have. Rammy, thanks for your question 643 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: and we appreciate that be a recommendation as well. That's 644 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: not a brewery I've ever even heard of, let alone 645 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: had uh. And also, congrats on building a new home. 646 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: That's definitely exciting. Or maybe we actually we should actually 647 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: say like we're sorry that you have to go through 648 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: this so many decisions to make so much pain in 649 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: the process, right, Yeah, Well it's it's it's cool, it's 650 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: fun to build your own play, but it can definitely 651 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: be daunting. I mean, and we've only gone through a 652 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: major renovation a few years ago, so remy, let's go 653 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: ahead and get your question. And you know, like truly 654 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: across the board, the best cash back credit cards are 655 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: going to be the City Double Cash and the Fidelity 656 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Rewards Visa Signature card. Will link to both of those 657 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: in the show notes. But those are the only two 658 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: cards that that we know of, at least at this 659 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: point that offer a straight up two percent cash back 660 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: on every single purchase that you make. And also there 661 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: is no limit on what you can earn. Uh. So 662 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: sometimes there will be certain cards like I'm a huge 663 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: fan of the Blue Cash Preferred Amex card where you 664 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: get six percent on groceries, except that and it's and 665 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: it's certainly a great thing, but you are still limited 666 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: to the amount that you can earn, you know, with 667 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: that benefit with that six percent. And so it's great 668 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: about these two cards is that there's no limit. It's 669 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: two percent no matter how much you spend that year. 670 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: And when you're building a home, you're gonna spend a 671 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: lot of money, so no limit things important, right And 672 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: also to remy, it's important to consider sign up bonuses. Um, 673 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: those cards are the ones that Matt just mentioned are 674 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: perfect for everyday purchases, but there could be other ways 675 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: of maximizing your rewards because you're spending a lot right now, right, 676 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: so we would say pay attention to the sign up 677 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: bonuses that you can snag if you hit a certain 678 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: spend level each month. Just bind tile for your bathrooms 679 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: alone could let you a bonus of five seven fifty dollars. 680 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: So check out some of those what will link to 681 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: some of the cards paying the top bonuses right now 682 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: in the show notes as well. And if you're going 683 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: to be spending a lot of money at one of 684 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: the big home improvement retailers, consider signing up for their 685 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: credit card also because that could reward you even more 686 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: effectively than some of the other stuff we've been talking about. 687 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, I think this would be the only 688 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: time that we would basically recommend like a store card, 689 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: which is essentially what the Lows card is. But that's 690 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: a credit card that they offer and they give you 691 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: a flat five percent off every purchase every day, which 692 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: is pretty awesome if you're going to be spending a 693 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: lot of money there. Uh, this is a card that 694 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: actually might sign up for. I mean, like, Lows is 695 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: the closest hardware store to us. Uh, in between just 696 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: money we spend outside, you know on the garden house stuff, 697 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: but then rentals as well. I mean, it could definitely 698 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: be be worth it for me. I go to Lows 699 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: more than I'd like to same here, oftentimes multiple times 700 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: in the same day, which is the worst, you know, man, 701 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I feel like that, and I gotta go return and 702 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: get something else, absolutely man. And you know, speaking of 703 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: the big box stores, Home Depot will extend the return 704 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: window to a year if you pay with its cards, 705 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: so that's a little benefit there. But do be careful, 706 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, when you are using any of these credit cards, 707 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: because the things that you'll be putting on the card, 708 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: they're going to add up over the months, and you 709 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: don't want to get used to putting your purchases on 710 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: it if you can't pay them in full, if you 711 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 1: are carrying a balance, that's something you want to avoid, 712 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: so remy best of luck to you building this home. 713 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: It's going to be super fun, also really stressful and 714 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: really expensive, but hopefully you can at least maximize your 715 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: rewards so that it cost you a little bit less Emotionally, 716 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: it'll feel a little bit better. Exactly, exactly, all right, Matt, 717 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: Let's get to our last question of this episode. This 718 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: one is about prepping on a budget. Hi, Matt and Jewel. 719 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: This is Lauren from Salt Lake City. In the past 720 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: year and a half, we have experienced wildfires, an earthquake, 721 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: a pandemic, and having our first baby. After all of that, 722 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: I feel a need to be more prepared in case 723 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: of an emergency. I would like to have some kind 724 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: of grab and go bag in case we need to 725 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: leave quickly. However, I'm finding that this stuff can get 726 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: really expensive for hopefully spending its life just sitting in 727 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: a closet. My question is what are your tips for 728 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: spending money wisely on things like this that hopefully I'll 729 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: never have to use. Thanks? Hey, Lauren, we are so 730 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: sorry for all that you've experienced this year. You know, 731 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense that you're gonna wanna, 732 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, take steps to be a little more prepared 733 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, maybe it's fleeing your 734 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: home or just being prepared for some of these natural disasters. 735 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: It's an important question to be asking because, yeah, like 736 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: emergency preparedness can become expensive, and it can become this 737 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: sort of never ending cascade of expenses if you decide to, 738 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, go further down that rabbit hole. I know 739 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: that from personal experience with family members, they got maybe 740 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 1: a little into the prepping, uh lifestyle, and it can 741 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: be expensive to get to get into that in a 742 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: big way. That's true. We won't give details, but I 743 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Uh. Yeah, there's actually visible 744 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: episode about bunkers not too long ago, where folks are 745 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: like building out missile silos and creating creating like these 746 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, condos and like they're almost like resorts, but 747 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: they happen to be underground resorts for the end times exactly. Uh. 748 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: It's super fascinating. Yeah, folks can go overboard preparing for 749 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: something that's impossible to be prepared for so you know, 750 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: while it's wise to be prepared, to be prepped to 751 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: some degree, we would recommend that you just don't overdo it. Yeah, Matt, 752 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm kind of I think I mentioned on the show before, 753 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm like a verse to safety planning or safety in general, 754 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: like it just doesn't cross in of a planner. So 755 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: here the way that you and I are a little 756 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: bit different because I do think about like the worst 757 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: case scenarios and I'm like, okay, like I don't go crazy, 758 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: but I do want to make sure that I'm prepared. Yeah, 759 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: and I just assumed that everything is going to go well, 760 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: and so I don't plan for that kind of stuff, 761 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes it frustrates my wife. But I feel like, 762 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, COVID made me realize that prepping wasn't as 763 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: stupid of an idea as I previously thought. I feel like, 764 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: when grocery stores were out of stock on items like 765 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: toilet paper and eggs, it kind of made me think 766 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: that I should maybe be a little more prepared in 767 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: the future. You're like, those are my two favorite things. 768 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: If I can't get either exactly, and I think for 769 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: for a lot of folks that might mean that they 770 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: wanted to get a chicken coop and a handful of 771 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: chickens in their backyard, or maybe like you know, growing 772 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: a small plot of vegetables so that you would always 773 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: have something that you were making yourself, that you were 774 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: growing yourself, that you could you could eat, that could 775 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: sustain you. And being able to sustain yourself at least 776 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: to a small degree on your own land, I think 777 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: is admirable and helpful. Um And it's something that I 778 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't have really given much credence to, given much thought to, 779 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: if it hadn't been for kind of what happened, you know, 780 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: in the in the wake of COVID with supply chain issues. 781 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: That's true, and so Lauren, you know, especially if you 782 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: live in a place like I mean, it sounds like 783 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: you do like you've had to you know, you've dealt 784 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: with wildfires, right, But if you're prone to a place 785 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: that has natural disasters like earthquakes or hurricanes, or maybe 786 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: you live in the Midwest, you know, where there's a 787 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of tornadoes. For for other listeners out there, you 788 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: should definitely have some non perishables, uh, you know, at 789 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: the ready if something happens. It's also helpful to have 790 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: like flashlights, batteries, you know, blankets, first aid kits, things 791 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: like that. Obviously, it's good to always have, like bottled water. 792 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: We always have a bunch of bottled waters in the 793 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: back of our van. But it depends on your personal situation. Uh. 794 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: And Lauren, you know you mentioned to how you'll have 795 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: a new baby. You know, having kids definitely exposes you 796 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: and opens you up to a little bit more risk, 797 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, like as a father of four, I'm realizing 798 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: that like day to day and I've kind of moved 799 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: into that direction as well, where like I've got a 800 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: bag now where I've got a first aid kit in there. Uh, 801 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: And I just keep little things because the kids get 802 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: hurt and they're bleeding and and oftentimes it's not major. 803 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: But depending on your situation and if you have dependence, 804 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you've got a baby formula, these are 805 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: different things that you're gonna want to make sure you 806 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: have on hand to make sure that you're prepared in 807 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: case a situation like this arises. True. I think too, though, Matt, 808 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: we would say don't overspend out of fear, and like 809 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: you could opt for the one year stash of food 810 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: that has a thirty year shehelf life from Costco. Uh, 811 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I think it's five thousand bucks. So 812 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: and seriously, so there's some people that, you know, some 813 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: people would maybe build their own root cellar and start 814 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: canning stuff and sticking it down there. Or you could 815 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: just go the easy button and get the five thousand 816 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: food from Costco. But you're not preparing for the zombie apocalypse, 817 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: so that would be overkill, right, although I will say 818 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: Costco has a pretty cool hundred dollar backpack that claims 819 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: to get you through seventy two hours, so a little 820 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: little bug out bag, right, Yeah, But but really you 821 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: can get a bunch of the things you might need 822 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: from the dollar store instead of even getting it from Costco. 823 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: FEMA recommends having supplies they're gonna last you three three days, 824 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: you know, other people would suggest seven in days. It's 825 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: helpful to have some cash on hand. To Matt, we 826 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: would say like maybe a couple hundred dollars or so 827 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: in different denominations. But the more you do research on this, 828 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: the more you might be tempted to continue spending and 829 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: to buy more and more stuff, and so set a limit. 830 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: Say I'm gonna get a three day supply or a 831 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: five day supply and create a list that's defined of 832 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: the things that you might need in a potential emergency, 833 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: and refuse to go beyond that because you can always 834 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: add more stuff and always spend more money. Also, too, 835 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: we would suggest going too Ready dot gov. They've got 836 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: some great information on emergency preparedness. But just know that 837 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to break the bank in order to 838 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: have some peace of mind, and not just peace of mind, 839 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: but actual supplies. That's the ready in case something want 840 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, that's right. We'll make you the link 841 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: to that page there at ready dot govn I'll link 842 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: to the UH I think I found that came across 843 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: this article when I was putting together my first aid 844 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: kit from like the Bump, which is like one of 845 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: those websites for you know, pregnant couples as they're kind 846 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: of going through the whole pregnancy thing. But they had 847 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: a good article up there for putting together a first 848 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: aid kit when you've got toddlers or you know, when 849 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: you have babies, that kind of thing. But I mean, 850 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: in the end, what Lauren's gonna have to do here 851 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: is like do a cost if an analysis, you know, 852 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: like she's gonna have to look at the money that 853 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: she has on hand. Uh, and you know, when does 854 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: it make sense to start paring back? Because if somebody 855 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: has the money on hand and they want to go 856 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: for seven days, go for thirty days, where the supplies, 857 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily going to be one to tell them 858 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't do that. It depends on the amount 859 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: of peace of mind that it brings them and why 860 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: we don't want people living out of fear. At the 861 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: same time, if they're kind of into that, and there 862 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people are, you know, like they're kind 863 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: of attracted to the idea of being you know, self 864 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: sufficient and have the ability to be off the grid 865 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: for a month. And if you're in a solid enough 866 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: financial position to be able to do that, then I say, 867 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: more power to you. But it just kind of depends 868 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: on the individual person. It comes down to, Yeah, your family, Yeah, 869 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: but that that fancy missile silo bunker might be over go. 870 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: You don't need that. You don't need that. Uh probably 871 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: maybe I don't. Yeah, maybe somebody does, But I don't 872 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: want that. Yeah, me neither. All right, Lauren, I hope 873 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: that helps best of luck to you as you're preparing 874 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully you never have to use the stuff that 875 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: you buy. Right now, That's the other thing, and that's 876 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: what that's what makes it so difficult too, is she says, 877 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: hope it's not something we need. And in that sense, 878 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: it's a lot like insurance, you know, like it's like 879 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: life insurance. Right, Yes, it's like this is something I 880 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: am paying for. I hope we'd never have to use 881 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: it or use it anytime soon, but it's there just 882 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: in case. It's there for that peace of mind exactly, 883 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: all right. But I know a lot of our listeners 884 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: have had that question, like how much can you spend 885 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: on that? How much should you spend? And if you're 886 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: not careful, you can spend too much? All right, Matt, 887 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the beer that we had on 888 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: this episode. This one is called Baked Goods. It's a 889 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: BlackBerry lemon cobbler sour given to us by the fine 890 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: folks over at Atlanta Brewing Company. What were your thoughts 891 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: on this beer? Man? It's really good, man. Yeah. When 892 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: we poured it, the first thing you notice is that, 893 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, the beer is stained with the color of blueberries. Actually, 894 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: It's not purple or blue like the color of blueberry skins, 895 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: but it does have like that kind of pinkish orange 896 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: hue to it. But yeah, this is a really nicely 897 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: balanced beer, nice fruit, nice lemon, zest going on with 898 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: you know, some of that blueberry flavor as well. I 899 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: find myself drawn to some of the blueberry sours that 900 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: we've had on and and this one isn't an exception. 901 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: I like it, But yeah, what are your thoughts? So? 902 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: I feel like when it comes to dessert beers often 903 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm a bit skeptical because sometimes there are too many 904 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: ingredients tossed in there, and especially because this was a 905 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: sour version of like a baked good. Oftentimes they're they're 906 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: stouts right with like pastry stouts or um or you know, 907 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: they got coconut and other kind of flavors infused into 908 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: a stout that's trying to taste like a baked good. 909 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: And I was like, a sour baked good. How how's 910 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: this gonna how's this one gonna pan out? But man, 911 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was really really nice. The blueberry, the lemon, 912 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: the cobbler. You kind of got hints of every single 913 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: one of those notes so it actually kind of tasted 914 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: like that, and so this one was balanced and delicious 915 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: at the same time. Atlanta Brewing Company, especially their limited releases, man, 916 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: they've gotten really really solid. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I think 917 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: what you maybe liked about this is that it wasn't 918 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: overly sweet, you know, and so like it was a 919 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: kind of a dessert beer, but it was a sour, 920 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: so it still had those flavors without being too heavy. 921 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: And like I personally thought it had a ton of 922 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: like that cobbler note going on, like on the tail end, 923 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: Like the aftertaste was like a really really chewy weediness 924 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: maybe feel like I was actually crunching down on the 925 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: on the pastry, you know, like like that's totally what 926 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: this beer left me with, you know, after kind of 927 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: after the initial tartness was gone. But yeah, I agreed, 928 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: very good beer, and um, I'm glad that you and 929 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: I have got to enjoy one of these on the 930 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: show today, no doubt. Well that's gonna do it for 931 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: this episode. For folks that want the show notes, including 932 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the links that we mentioned, we'll have 933 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: those up on our website at how to money dot com. 934 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: That's right, and so Joel until next time. Best friends out, 935 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: best friends out,