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Speaker 1: Ma has made me promise several things, or made me

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Speaker 1: a congested downtown Nashville, Tennessee. So ACDC he was playing

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Speaker 1: Love them, but they're everywhere, including our parking garage. What

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Speaker 1: things should be off limits, you know. Some changes to

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Speaker 1: be one of them. As future college Football commissioner, I

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Speaker 1: Dabbo's legacy is one of them. But also I would

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Speaker 1: How will you remember this era of college football? We

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Speaker 1: got a jam packed show tonight. They're watching us in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania, Rome, Georgia, Jackson, Mississippi, Wichita, Kansas,

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Speaker 1: proudly brought to you by Academy Sports and Outdoors, as

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Speaker 1: show ton I appreciate you guys watching or listening. We've

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Speaker 1: been doing head coaching approval ratings. Now. This is not

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Speaker 1: So we worked what six coaches from the SEC end

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Speaker 1: And the other thing about Sam Pittman is everyone's pulling

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Speaker 1: the fifth toughest schedule in the Big ten to the

427
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Speaker 1: thirteenth toughest schedule in the Big Ten just by changing

428
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Speaker 1: that game, so it means a lot. That's a game

429
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Speaker 1: on the road in South Bend, Southern Coast, probably a

430
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Speaker 1: point spread underdog, whereas if they play UTEP, they're probably

431
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Speaker 1: a four touchdown favorite at the coliseum. Makes a huge difference. Now,

432
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: you may think to yourself, if you don't know much

433
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Speaker 1: about college football and you're just riding around with your

434
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Speaker 1: fiance or you know your buddy and you just happen

435
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Speaker 1: to be hearing the show for the first time, you

436
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: may be thinking, certainly, there's something in the mechanism of

437
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Speaker 1: strength of schedule measurement to calibrate for this in college football.

438
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Speaker 1: You would think so, But there is this rogue army

439
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: of casuals who run around screaming you are what your

440
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: record says you are, to the point where it kind

441
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: of becomes a reality. And then there's like a contingent

442
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: of them that wants to do the right thing. So

443
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: every August they'll say I'm not gonna fall victim to that,

444
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Speaker 1: or when headlines like this appear, they'll say, no, no, no, no, no,

445
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: play the tougher schedule. We'll reward you for it, but

446
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: they cannot shake it. Come December, if you've gotten an

447
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: eleven and one G five pit it against a nine

448
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: to three Big Ten team for a playoff spot, they

449
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: will look at you and say, you can't put a

450
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: nine win team in over an eleven win team. So

451
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: the Lincoln Rileys of the world look at it and say, hey,

452
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Speaker 1: I'd love to play competitive games. But if that's the

453
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Speaker 1: way we're gonna think about this, why should I. The

454
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Speaker 1: answer is he shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Here's the follow up. He shouldn't have the choice. The

456
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Speaker 2: AD at USC shouldn't have the option. The president of

457
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: USC shouldn't have the option. The mayor of Los Angeles

458
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: shouldn't have the option. There are certain foundational.

459
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Speaker 1: Pieces of this sport. Some of them are rivalry games.

460
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Speaker 1: Some of them are uniform combinations. I don't care. There

461
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: are many things about this sport that are fundamental in nature.

462
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Speaker 1: There are many things about the sport that are woven

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Speaker 1: into the fabric into the DNA of college football that

464
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Speaker 1: should be non negotiables. The head coach at USC should

465
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Speaker 1: never have the power to influence whether they play Notre

466
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Speaker 1: Dame or not every year the AD because those come

467
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Speaker 1: and go We've had dozens of head coaches and athletic

468
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Speaker 1: directors at these respective institutions, and yet they've played this

469
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Speaker 1: game ninety five times since nineteen twenty four. You want

470
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Speaker 1: to know what's canceled this game? Since nineteen twenty four?

471
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Speaker 1: There was this pesky little World War two we had,

472
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Speaker 1: and then there was COVID in twenty twenty. That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's either been pandemic or World War global conflict. It

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Speaker 1: hasn't been, but we may not make the playoffs. Can

475
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: you imagine that war cancels your game. Pandemic cancels your game.

476
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Speaker 1: Worried we may not make the playoffs because we're nine

477
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Speaker 1: to three instead of ten to two, cancels the game.

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Speaker 1: One of those is not like the other. Pathetic. I'm

479
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Speaker 1: not even bagging on Lincoln Riley. He shouldn't be in

480
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Speaker 1: position to influence it. It should be there. And when

481
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Speaker 1: you take the job at USC, or you take the

482
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Speaker 1: job at Notre Dame as the ad or as the

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Speaker 1: head coach, you should take it with the understanding you're

484
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Speaker 1: gonna play Notre Dame every year, You're gonna play USC

485
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Speaker 1: every year, and you know what, if you don't like that,

486
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: then guess what, you don't have to take the job.

487
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Speaker 1: It is the USC head coaching job, after all, it

488
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: is the USC athletic director job. After all. Plenty of

489
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Speaker 1: other people standing outside the door with their applications in

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Speaker 1: their hand. Now Here is the follow follow up. This

491
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Speaker 1: is partly on college football. Lincoln Riley shouldn't even have

492
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Speaker 1: this as a concern you, but you're currently in a

493
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: state of affairs in college football has been a problem

494
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Speaker 1: for a while. That's why I find the nearest drum

495
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Speaker 1: and I always bang it and I say, you've got

496
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Speaker 1: to find a way to recalibrate the way you define

497
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Speaker 1: strength of schedule and the way you factor it into

498
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: your postseason decision making in college football, because we suck

499
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Speaker 1: at it right now. It's been that way for a

500
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Speaker 1: long time. Win loss record is so easy to see

501
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: past if you understand how different college football is to

502
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Speaker 1: the NFL. But a lot of people don't. It's a

503
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Speaker 1: lot of people with powerful voices in sports predominantly cover

504
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: pro sports, and they just kind of drive by college football.

505
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Speaker 1: But they drive by it long enough to spew this

506
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: nonsense about your what your record says you are, and

507
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: it infects the conversation. It's infected. We get a sickness

508
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: every December, and that sickness is hey man, ten wins

509
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: is ten wins? Win your games? You know? I hate it. Oh,

510
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: I can't stand it. And so what happens is people

511
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: like leecoln Riley look and say, well, if that's the

512
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: way it's gonna be. I don't want it to be

513
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Speaker 1: that way, but if that's the way it's gonna be,

514
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Speaker 1: scratch the Notre Dame game, because you know what if

515
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Speaker 1: they go nine and three this year and they get

516
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: left out, no one's patent Lincoln Riley on the back saying,

517
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Speaker 1: you know what, you didn't make the playoff, but good

518
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: for you playing Notre Dame close in South ben you're

519
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: our guy. No, they're saying, why didn't you make the playoff?

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00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: And the committee, when he's nine and three, is looking

521
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: at him saying, uh, you had? They lost twenty three

522
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Speaker 1: sixteen on the road there in South Bend. They lost.

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Speaker 1: If this is the part they don't say, but they

524
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: are dead serious. If you just would a schedule Colorado

525
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: State instead, you'd be in the playoff. Why, because you

526
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: are what your record says you are. This is such

527
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: a stupid problem for college football to have. It's so

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00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: easily solvable, so easy you don't even need all the

529
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: commissioners to agree on it. Well, I guess you kind

530
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: of do. Just define strength of schedule the right way.

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Speaker 1: Have a dynamic in your sport that incentivizes scheduling up

532
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: instead of scheduling down. Right now, apparently we still haven't

533
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: rectified that problem, and it's oh wow, it's twenty twenty five,

534
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Speaker 1: so it's past time to do it. Bold predictions. Let's

535
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: roll on bold predictions. What are the things you believe

536
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: this year that you would bet your own money on?

537
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: How bold can you get? Well, here's one that I

538
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: think we're gonna disagree on because I rate these on

539
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. Let's see what you

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Speaker 1: think about this one bold prediction? Number one from Brownsville,

541
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Speaker 1: Texas arch Mann he wins the Heisman. How bold is that?

542
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: Some of you are going to say, not bold? Because

543
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: he is the odds favorite at FanDuel right now to

544
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: win the Heisman Trophy? So how bold is it to

545
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: say the number one guy on the odds board wins

546
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: the Heisman? I say it's a nine because I say, well, yes,

547
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: but you are picking one player out of that group.

548
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: And let's be real, even though Arch is the odds favorite,

549
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: there's not a ton of gap between him and like

550
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Speaker 1: DJ Lagway. He's plus seven hundred Lagways plus seventeen hundred. Yeah,

551
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: you'd make more money if you bet on Lagway and

552
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: you won than if you bet on Arch and he won.

553
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: But it's it's very compressed, as you can see, and

554
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: if you're not watching, as you can hear. The other

555
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: thing is you're picking one player. I'm taking the field.

556
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: You're taking one player. That's why I would make it

557
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: a nine. However, this I do this frequently. I answer

558
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: a question, but then I debate the other side of it.

559
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: So there may be some people looking at that saying

560
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Arch ain't gonna win the Heisman. No way. Well, I

561
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: would say, well, he is the favorite, so there is

562
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: a way. Well yeah, but that's just because they know

563
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: his name's big and a lot of people are gonna

564
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Speaker 1: bet on him. That's the same reason Vegas favors the

565
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys by more than they should be favored every week.

566
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Probably a little truth to that, But I mean, what

567
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: should he be fiftieth No, so he should be in

568
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: the lead pack. But if you say there's no way

569
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna win it, well, that obviously means you got

570
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: it figured out. So where are the slam dunk choices?

571
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: Above and beyond Arch Mannings, Garrett and Nessmeyer. A slam

572
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: dunk Heisman winner to you is Kate Klubnick. A slam

573
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: dunk Heisman winner to you is gonna be Jeremiah Smith.

574
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: That's a non quarterback. Where's the slam dunk? So yes,

575
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: Arch absolutely belongs up there. And then I would imagine

576
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: someone else is yelling a first year quarterback's not gonna

577
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Speaker 1: win the Heisman. Have you heard of Caleb Williams? Have

578
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: you heard of Bryce Young? Have you heard of Kyler Murray?

579
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: These are just recent examples at the quarterback position of

580
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: first year starters who won the Heisman. So it's a nine,

581
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: but it's there, It is there to be had. Next up,

582
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Speaker 1: this one's not to me. Jason from San Diego said,

583
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: both teams in the National Championship will not be from

584
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: the power too. So no big ten in the National

585
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: title game, no sec in the National Title Game. That,

586
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: my friend, is a ten on the boldness scale. We

587
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: have some disagreement in the office today, but it's a ten.

588
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: So at FanDuel right now, fifteen of the top eighteen

589
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: teams in the odds to win the national title are

590
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: big two teams. Notre Dame is six, they're not one.

591
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Clemson is eight, they're not one. That's really all you

592
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: need Miami's thirteenth. If you get a Notre Dame Clemson

593
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: national title game, this prediction hits. So it's not impossible.

594
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: I just think it's highly improbable. And here's the thing.

595
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: You got twelve teams this year. You're guaranteed three teams

596
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: at least that are non big ten SEC. You could

597
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: have as many as five, just depending on how the

598
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: field shakes out, so you'll have representation minimum a quarter

599
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: of the field will be non big ten SEC. So

600
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: you'll have some candidates in there. Are they gonna run

601
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: their way because because remember, you have to have two

602
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: non SEC non big ten And I think that's it's

603
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: not impossible, but it warrants a ten next up. This

604
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: would be a disaster. Michelle, shame on you. Michelle. Friend

605
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: of the program met her last year at this game. No,

606
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: it was the Texas Michigan game. So she just said

607
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: the whole thing on fire. She goes Michigan will beat

608
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State for the fifth straight year. This is only

609
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: an eight. I'm not going to continue to, you know,

610
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: get a hammer to my face on this game. We

611
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: were called a Michigan boot licking program the other day,

612
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: by the way, from uh what was the guy's name.

613
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: I promise I didn't forget intentionally. Detroit radio host you

614
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: know you know who he is. He called me a

615
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Michigan boot licker on the air, and I defended myself.

616
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: But you know what I forgot to say on the show,

617
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: I've picked Ohio State to win this game four consecutive years.

618
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: I am zero for four. I'm the worst Michigan boot

619
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: licker on the planet because I never pick them to

620
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State and they always do. So what does

621
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: it take for this to happen for a fifth straight year? Well,

622
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: the line's out. If you want to bet this game

623
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: right now, you can. Ohio State is favored by five

624
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: and a half at Michigan. The game is obviously in

625
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: late November. There is no way anyone knows what these

626
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: teams will look like by that point. There is no

627
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: way you know what those quarterback positions look like by

628
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: that point. However, if you think to yourself, huh, a

629
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: ton of defensive line production lost for Ohio State. And

630
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: that's where we've owned them. We've had the physical ledge

631
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: over them, and we trust the Michigan physicality no matter

632
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: the names on the jersey, and we got them in

633
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: our house. We'll be able to lean on them. Shorten

634
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: the game, compress the game. Hey, maybe you will. That's

635
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: why the lines five and a half not fifteen and

636
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: a half. And last year it didn't even matter that

637
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: it was that big. So the other thing that I

638
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: was thinking about here, I don't know how it would

639
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: impact the game, but it would somehow is the NCAA

640
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: decision should be handed down by now. So either one

641
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: of two things is happening. Either Michigan does get hammered

642
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: and they view this as their super Bowl basically, or

643
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Michigan doesn't get hammered. And one of the things that

644
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State folks have really held close to as sort

645
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: of a thing to look forward to in the future

646
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: is out the window. And Michigan's gotten some reprieve and

647
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: that they go into it free and easy, and oh,

648
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: by the way, we've beaten you four in a row.

649
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: Why should we be nervous about this. Just an interesting dynamic.

650
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to make this an eight, no bolder than

651
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: an eight. Lastly, this would be Sad Trent from Nashville, Tennessee.

652
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: He says this will be the final season for two

653
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: of the three longest tenured head coaches at their respective schools.

654
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: So we got Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State, we got

655
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Kurt Farrance at Iowa, and it was Kyle Whittingham at Utah.

656
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: And he's saying two of those three will be done now,

657
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: he said, at their respective schools. I don't really see

658
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: a world where Kurt Ferance takes a new job, or

659
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham takes a new job, or really Mike Gundy,

660
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: although I'd love to see Mike Gundy and TV. But

661
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're gone, it's either because they retired

662
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: or they got fired. Two out of those three, huh.

663
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: I think that's an eight point five. I could see this.

664
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: Kurt Ferrence has been around a long time, Kyle Whittingham's

665
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: already named his head coach in waiting. Gandhi had a

666
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: terrible year last year. It's been very contentious between him

667
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma State. Brass it's just a mess behind the scenes,

668
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: so not to mention the entire sport has changed, and

669
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: maybe these guys feel fed up with it after this year,

670
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: win or lose, So like there are dynamics in play

671
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: that don't make this as crazy as it sounds. I'm

672
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna make that an eight and a half. Like none

673
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: of this prediction could be hit with nobody being fired.

674
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: That's how unbold that is, but it would be notable.

675
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: They're watching us in Valdosta, Georgia, More, Oklahoma, and Columbus, Ohio.

676
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much for that. Let's move along.

677
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: We got a few other things to talk about here

678
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: tonight on this jam packed show. Rare Wednesday show. I

679
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: don't know when the last time we had a Wednesday

680
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: show was we will pop the top on Azevia because

681
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: we need zero sugar refreshment. No matter what night of

682
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: the week it is, cream soda. Of course, cream soda

683
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Wednesdays are back. You want to talk about sleepers, We'll

684
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: talk about sleepers. Franklin from Columbia, South Carolina. He said,

685
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: which teams outside of your top twenty could you anticipate

686
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: making a run at the playoff? Now, we did release

687
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: our Top twenty to varying degrees of fanfare last week,

688
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: and there it is. And if you're listening on podcasts,

689
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to read the whole Top twenty, but

690
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: I will tell you Auburn's not in it. So I

691
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: think if we have to eliminate all of the teams

692
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: that already listed, and you're saying, give me some sleepers

693
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: outside of those twenty, Auburn is certainly there. I don't

694
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: have Auburn in the top twenty, but the roster talent

695
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: is there. They've got an average of a top fifteen

696
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: recruiting class the last three cycles, really the last four cycles,

697
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: right Jesse, they've averaged a top fifteen class, and also

698
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: they've got a top ten portal class there. They are

699
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: probably a plus team on the lines of scrimmage. Keldric Falk,

700
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: like the edge player there, has got game wrecker ability.

701
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, of course, we're asking

702
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: big questions about Jackson Arnold, but they're a sleeper because

703
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: if he doesn't pan out, it won't be a great

704
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: team this year. But if he does pan out, that

705
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: becomes the most underrated receiver room in the country because

706
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: no one's talking about him because you don't think Auburn

707
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: can throw the ball, and you got good reason to

708
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: think that from last year. Well, actually they pushed the

709
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: ball down the field fairly. Well, they just turned it

710
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: over too much. But they're very under the radar. Not

711
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: a lot's expected of Auburn, but if they hit it

712
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: with Jackson Arnold, they're capable of beating anyone on their schedule.

713
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: So that's a wild card sleeper type of team. I

714
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: think Nebraska is a qualifier for a sleeper. They're over

715
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: underwent total seven and a half, but last year they

716
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: were in the one hundreds in offensive points per game.

717
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: And now they have Dana Holgerson at OC. So Ryola

718
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: is there quarterback Holgerson there at OC. You got the

719
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: Matt rule year three things, so you just put I'll

720
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: pull all that in pop and then you mix it up.

721
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: They're sleepers because there's no guarantee if you pour it

722
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: out it tastes good, but it could be amazing. Like

723
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: Indiana this time last year, no one's talking about them,

724
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: but yet there they were. So this is gonna happen somewhere.

725
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: Maybe it does happen at Nebraska. They've got three top

726
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: twenty five classes baked into their roster. They've got a

727
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: top fifteen portal class and you know what, they're bottom

728
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: third in their conference in our strength of schedule metrics,

729
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: and they're big games. They got Michigan at home, they've

730
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: got USC at home. They go two Penn State late

731
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: in the year. But if you're taking care of business

732
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: at home, you can afford to drop a game on

733
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: the road. You know how many teams we let in

734
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: the playoff these days? If Rule had his way, everyone

735
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: would BM But nevertheless we got twelve of them. I

736
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: know it was a joke people. I know there was

737
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: some good old fashioned clickbaiting going on today in the

738
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: world of the out of context college football coach quote.

739
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: And I fell victim. I fell victim. But you know what,

740
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: I've talked to Matt Rule about the playoff. He really

741
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: does want more teams in there. I know, good and well.

742
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: He does great person. As Memhi used to always say,

743
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: casual people rarely say smart things, but smart people do

744
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: say casual things. And Matt Rule is a smart guy

745
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: who has a casual playoff take. Even though that thing

746
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: that circulated the internet today was taken out of context,

747
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: all right, Missouri Missouri anyone, Yes, I think so. I

748
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: was trying to make sure I had that written down.

749
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: All right, I want to do it. I guess I

750
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: can't do this exercise because I just said the name

751
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 1: of the team. But pretend we were fifteen seconds ago

752
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: and I have not said Missouri yet. All right, I

753
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: just want you to listen to this blind resume. If

754
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: I said, I have a team in front of me

755
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: that's gone twenty one to five in the last two years.

756
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: That's better than LSU and Tennessee. They've averaged a top

757
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: twenty five class the last four years. Okay, so you

758
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: know you got good talent and the roster. They just

759
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: landed a top ten portal class. They've got a top

760
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: five returning production over on defense at defense that was

761
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: pretty good last year. And then they just went and

762
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: got Bo Prabula, a quarterback from Penn State who came

763
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: in and led them in a come from behind win

764
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: on the road last year. Oh, by the way, this

765
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: team has the second easiest strength of schedule in the SEC.

766
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: If I told you all that, you'd say, give me

767
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: some playoff stock on that team, and then I would

768
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: turn the paper around and you'd see, Oh it's Missouri.

769
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: Never mind? Why never mind? Why also they play four

770
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: road games this year? Is that right? Yeah, it looks

771
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: that way. Both of them are back to back, But

772
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: why never mind, Let's give them a chance. In the

773
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: sixties they were singing give piece a chance. In twenty

774
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: twenty five, we just need to give Missouri a chance.

775
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: And lastly, Kansas State still plays this year. Do you

776
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: guys know that I had to check today. I made

777
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: a call up there, a good friend of the program, Kenny,

778
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: picks up the phone. I say, Kenny, are y'all playing

779
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: this year? You're gonna have a season? He confirmed they are.

780
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: They are planning on playing football this fall. And the

781
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: reason I speak like this is because is everyone just

782
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: forgotten about Kansas State. There's so many shiny toys in

783
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Look at Diona Colorado, look at Kenny

784
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Dillingham at Arizona State. Have you seen the class that

785
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Texas Tech has put together? I am describing this show.

786
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: This is not hypocrisy because I'm calling myself a little bit.

787
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: I haven't talked enough about Kansas State that makes them

788
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: a sleeper by the very definition. It's a wide open conference.

789
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: Avery Johnson is still there. And you know what, I

790
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: don't think Chris Clemban forgot how to coach football. So

791
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: they're probably right where they want to be, which is

792
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: out of the public spotlight. They've got a very workable

793
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: schedule as well, and if they win the conference, they're

794
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, so of course they are a playoff sleeper,

795
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: and they open against US. They open against Iowa State

796
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: in IRA in week zero. Nervousness already starting to build

797
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,600
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798
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,719
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799
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,960
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800
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,319
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801
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,040
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802
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: maybe a hot dog or a slice of pizza or

803
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, some name brand candies of varying degrees or

804
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,760
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805
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806
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,480
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807
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: an amazing time and whence we live. The partners on

808
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: this show, Quick Trip in the others have come through

809
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: in such fantastic ways for us in our personal lives

810
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,640
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811
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812
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: We got a really good question here, really good question,

813
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: A really good couple of questions about legacy, about looking

814
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: back down the road sometime probably fifty years from now.

815
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: So here's the first one. Ethan from Charlotte. He was asking,

816
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: where does Dabo rank all time if Clemson wins it

817
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: all this year Clemson wins the national championship, where does

818
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Dabo rank all time? He is way up there for

819
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: me already, Ethan. So if Dabo Swinney never wins anything

820
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: else in terms of a championship, he's already up there

821
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: for me. But your question was what if he wins

822
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: another one? The last one he won was twenty eighteen.

823
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: He played for it in twenty fifteen. He I'm just

824
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: thinking to myself what this world would be like played

825
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: for it in twenty nineteen as well, So this world

826
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: would be crazy. And I don't know what Dabo would

827
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: do if he won a national title. I've we got

828
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: a kind of like a producer or a scriptwriter's mentality

829
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: in my head that says he should just walk off

830
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: into the sunset. He could coach for another thirty years,

831
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: though I don't know what he would do. However, if

832
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: Dabo won a national title this year and you remove

833
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, I think he's in the conversation with any

834
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: other coach that's ever coached this game. I would think

835
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: that highly of him. I already think extremely highly of him.

836
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have as many national titles as Bear Bryant,

837
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: for example, like Frank Leahy Woody Hayes. There are guys

838
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: who knumerically would have more national titles. But you know what,

839
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: think about what Dabo will have done. He will have

840
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: existed smack dab in the middle of number one on

841
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: that list's dynasty, and he will have gone toe to

842
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: toe with number one, Nick Saban, and beaten him twice

843
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: for the two national titles that he has, and then

844
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: if he wins a third one this year, he will

845
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: have done so in the face of everyone, including me,

846
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: who told him that his ways and his approach to

847
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: the new era of college football would not yield that

848
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: kind of fruit anymore. And if he does that, I

849
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: don't know that anyone has ever accomplished more aside from

850
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: Nick Saban. I don't know that anyone will have had

851
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: more impressive a resume because I think the Era Debo

852
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: will have done it. In part one because it was

853
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: during Saban's tenure, would be incredible, and then part two

854
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: because he will have not really wavered even as the

855
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: rest of the sport churned around him, and he won

856
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: a third one, I think it'd be one of the

857
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: most incredible resumes that you've ever seen. He is a

858
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: guy that's very prideful, and by that I don't mean

859
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: in the bad, toxic way. I just mean he takes

860
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: pride in the way he does his business and that program.

861
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: He takes pride in the fact that they operate differently.

862
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: Difference not always good. Different just for the sake of

863
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: being different is a fool's Errand they're different, but it's

864
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: not merely for the sake of being different. It's just

865
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: because they choose to do it a different way and

866
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: if it gets validated at least in a results oriented

867
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: manner with another national title. Oh now, Dabo's too good

868
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: a dude to do this, but he could go on

869
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: the Ultimate I Told You So Tour, including this show.

870
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: He could do that. I don't know that he would,

871
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: but I would imagine you would see a lot of tears.

872
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: You would see a lot of pregnant pauses before he

873
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: answers questions. You would have maybe the longest answers in

874
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: the history of a podium presentation of the national championship

875
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: game that's ever been done. He may take the microphone

876
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: like out of Rhese Davis's hand, say I got this

877
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: reeze and just hold it there and go just cut

878
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: a promo stone cold style. He could do that in

879
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: every reason to do it. He'd have every excuse to

880
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: do it. But his legacy for me is already secured.

881
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't care if he wins another one or not.

882
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: But if he did win another one, you're talking about

883
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: going from the greatest of all time to do it

884
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: at Clemson, and you know, one of one of many

885
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: names in that goat conversation to one of a couple names,

886
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: and we'll see, because I had him ranked number one

887
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: coming out of spring, so we'll see. Then, Sorry, allergies.

888
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: Then if you get past that question, we got another one.

889
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: This is kind of about legacy too, but it's about yeah,

890
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: kind of just the way you look back on an

891
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: era of college football. So Ryan from Albany, New York,

892
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: sister city of Albany, Georgia. It's not real, he said,

893
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: How will this era of college football be remembered in

894
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: ten plus years? What a loaded question that we could

895
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: do an entire show on, but I'm gonna do like

896
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: seven minutes on it. I think we've had five decades

897
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: of change over the past ten years. Really we've had

898
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: five decades have changed over the past five years. But

899
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: I want you to think, so he said, ten years

900
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: from now. Let's go twenty years from now, just to

901
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: be safe. So it's twenty forty five and you're explaining

902
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: to a fifteen year old kid what this era was like.

903
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: You have had the college football playoff and then subsequent

904
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: playoff expansion. You've had the concept of nil where it

905
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: is now legal to pay players, and that overlapping with

906
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: virtually unrestricted portal movement, which led to complete free agency

907
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. In college football. We went from

908
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: a structured environment where everyone knew what an offer was

909
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: and what a scholarship entailed, and if you signed somewhere,

910
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: you're probably going to be there four years to we

911
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: don't know where you'll be an hour from now, and

912
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: it just happened like that. It wasn't over a span

913
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: of time. It happened just like that. We saw the

914
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: complete defanging of the NCAA. The NCAA has fractional power

915
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: related to what it used to have, fractional perceived authority

916
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: on the streets relative to what they used to have.

917
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: We had the whole realignment era, where we went from

918
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: being a regional sport to one where someone thought it

919
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: made perfect sense for UCLA to play Rutgers and conference games,

920
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: and all of it happened kind of overnight. If you

921
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: think about history this era, it's we're talking about the

922
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: span of seven or so years that all of this happened.

923
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: And I think it'll be remembered as the era where

924
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people got fooled. I guess is the

925
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: best way to put this. What I mean by that is, first,

926
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: we don't know how it's gonna turn out. So let's say,

927
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: for argument's sake and to make us all feel better,

928
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: let's say in twenty forty five, everything's perfect and college

929
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: football looks exactly how we always wanted it to look.

930
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: So this thing we're going through right now, it's just

931
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: an ends to a meme. If that's the case. I

932
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: think we'll look back on this era of college football

933
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: and we'll see it not only as an era where

934
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: the playoff came about, and then as it was expanded

935
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: and you got NIL and you got the portal, and

936
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: the NCAA's gone by the wayside, and loss of territoriality

937
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: in college football, we've just got mega conferences. Past all that, though,

938
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: I think it'll be viewed as the era that fooled

939
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people, because I don't know where you

940
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: fall in any one particular of those issues. But I

941
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: would imagine most, if not all, of this audience, me included,

942
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: has had something come along in the recent history of

943
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: college football that excited you that you've since been far

944
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: less excited about that you'd love a do over on.

945
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: Some of you wanted the playoff to expand, but maybe

946
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: you don't feel that way. Some of you heard the

947
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: concept of IL and the portal and you thought, oh,

948
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: this will be great and or maybe this will even

949
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: out the sport. Now you've seen no, really, it just

950
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: accumulated all the power in two conferences as opposed to

951
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: two or three teams. But you see, you couldn't have

952
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: all that change without those same people who allowed that

953
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: to happen, concentrating all the power. So you may look

954
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: at it and say, hey, in retrospect, I wish we

955
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: could go back if we lost all this, but we

956
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: got regionality back in college football, I'd be okay with that.

957
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: But you know what else has fooled people. It's happening

958
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people are fooled about the

959
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: sport right now because they're looking at the results. They're

960
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: looking at the attendance numbers, they're looking at ratings, and

961
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people even today are mistaking explosive growth

962
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: in metrics like ratings as an assurance that nothing's wrong.

963
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: How many times have you heard people say that someone

964
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: over here is complaining about whatever, and this person over

965
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: here says, well, you're still watching, Well the ratings are

966
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: still high. They're fooled, they're full. That is not correlated

967
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: the way you think it is. Today's growth is indicative

968
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: of some stability and an incredible product a generation prior,

969
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: whose downstream results are being felt now. If you invested

970
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: soundly a generation ago, you're reaping the financial windfall right now.

971
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,880
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973
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974
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: results have nothing to do with your current decision making.

975
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,520
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976
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977
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: in your backyard tomorrow and water them and care for them.

978
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: They're not going to grow the next day, but they'll

979
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: eventually grow. And then if you stop tending to that garden,

980
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: they don't die overnight, but they slowly will. Would you

981
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: look at it and say, it doesn't really matter how

982
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: I manage this garden. Look, there's a crop there, sure is.

983
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: Where did it come from? How did that crop grow?

984
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: Based on the decisions you've made since you woke up

985
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: this morning or the decisions you made eight months ago.

986
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: Like this common sense in every other walk of life,

987
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: but in college football, for some reason, when someone gets

988
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: backed into a corner and they can't defend the indefensible

989
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: decision making or like thereof that's happening in the sport,

990
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: they just revert to, well, the ratings are high, Yeah

991
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: they are, Yeah, they sure are. I think another thing

992
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: about this era is we saw a legend retire so

993
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: you got the Nick Saban run and then it comes

994
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: to an end. I think when people I think in

995
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: the future, when people tell the story of Sabin's retirement,

996
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: it'll be one sentence and it'll be he got tired

997
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: of the direction college football was going and it was

998
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: too much for him. He tapped out. Some people will

999
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: say he had a system that was rigged to his

1000
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: advantage and then he lost that edge and he bowed out.

1001
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: Other people will say there was a college football that

1002
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: he thrived in and he recognized and enjoyed, and then

1003
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: that version of college football was done away with and

1004
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: a new version popped up. He didn't want anything to

1005
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: do with it, so he left. But either way, it's

1006
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: the same thing, same result. Now, I wonder twenty years

1007
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: from now, how you look back on that exit, and

1008
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: who knows what kind of impact Saban's had on the

1009
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: sport since then, and who knows period? Who knows what

1010
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,200
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1011
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,600
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1012
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,080
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1013
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,319
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1014
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,520
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1015
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Speaker 1: Two and a half combined, I think is a fair

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Speaker 1: number four will you be power rating those on the

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Speaker 1: guest list? And now he did not say rank, right,

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Speaker 1: he said power rate those on the guest list. I

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Speaker 1: classified as can be, because it's very eclectic. We've got management,

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Speaker 1: we've got public figures, we've got family, we've got current

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Speaker 1: and unique mixture of humanity that's going to come together.

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Speaker 1: And for obvious reasons, I can't have that manifest getting out.

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Speaker 1: It's not a commercial flight. Okay, it is not the

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Speaker 1: federal government's right to know who's attending this. However, if

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Speaker 1: you did know, it would be eyebrow raising. You just

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Speaker 1: what does that look like? Well, I'll tell you I

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Speaker 1: probably won't because my lips are stealed on it. But

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Speaker 1: if you find someone who's hard up for cash enough

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Speaker 1: and you pay them thirty dollars to appear on your

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Speaker 1: podcast and talk about it, they'll probably be willing to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's some ethically sketchy people who are going to attend

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Speaker 1: this thing, and I can give you names of a

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Speaker 1: you could probably get it out of the right person.

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Speaker 1: But just not me. Not me, It's not the classy

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Speaker 1: tell you, hey, no show this Thursday, week four because

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Speaker 1: that would be terrible. You would boycott the show, and

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Speaker 1: I would lead the boycott. So we'll be back Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: same time as usual. I appreciate you guys again. All

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Speaker 1: the support, I really don't mean that. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: For director Colin, for a producer Jesse, I'm Josh Pate.

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