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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.

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Speaker 3: It's Tills and Yad and Katie Thurston in the pad.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 6: We all know and love her as a bachelorette, but

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Speaker 6: she's here to discuss some much more important topics today.

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Speaker 3: We know and we love her from the Bachelor franchise,

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Speaker 3: but there is much more to get into with Katie Thurston.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she recently got married.

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Speaker 6: She also recently was diagnosed with breast cancer, and she

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Speaker 6: has been so open and vulnerable on social media in

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Speaker 6: the podcast I've listened to, so I'm very excited to

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Speaker 6: talk to her.

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Speaker 4: Let's bring her in, Becca, Let's bring her in.

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Speaker 2: Everyone. Welcome Katie Thurston.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: In an introduction, Let's hello, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: being here.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: Guys, we this is our first time we met, which

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Speaker 6: is unheard of in the Bachelor world.

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Speaker 1: It's like we all know each other in this weird,

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Speaker 1: like subliminal messaging kind of way, you know, the first.

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Speaker 4: Time you have met.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like your trauma bonded through being on the show.

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Speaker 6: And it's just like an understanding that you know, when

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Speaker 6: you actually do meet, you get each other.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we're already like failing now.

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Speaker 2: It's like a sorority, Tony, You're not a part of it.

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Speaker 4: I know, No, I know, honestly. No.

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Speaker 3: Becka always says she's like, I wish that you had

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Speaker 3: just like one experience on the Bachelor because she thinks

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Speaker 3: I would have made like.

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Speaker 4: Good television, yeah, which is kind of rude.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, not everyone that is good on TV.

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Speaker 2: It's a negative thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been miserable.

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Speaker 1: If you have great commentary, then like, yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 6: The only thing is she would have fallen too fast

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Speaker 6: and gotten like they would have been able to get

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Speaker 6: in her head very Yeah, he.

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Speaker 4: Has a really good connection with Katie. I would have

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Speaker 4: been like, you know, it's.

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Speaker 5: A great televison, right.

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Speaker 2: So there's been a lot going on in your life.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm like, I have so many areas that I

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Speaker 6: want to cover, but I kind of want to go

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Speaker 6: into you being a wife because I feel like we

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Speaker 6: have gotten to watch your love story, you know, from

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Speaker 6: being on the Bachelor, and.

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Speaker 2: What was your love life before you were on the show.

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Speaker 1: I mean I definitely was like actively a dater's.

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Speaker 5: How you word it, but like I was pursuing.

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Speaker 1: Love always and like long term serious Like I never

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Speaker 1: dated for fun. I always dated like with the hope

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Speaker 1: of like marriage or at least long term, you know.

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Speaker 1: And the older you get your you're like, I hope

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Speaker 1: this is the one, yeah, you know, and every time

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Speaker 1: you think it is, and then it's not, like.

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Speaker 5: Damn it, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then for the Bachelor, it was like COVID. I

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Speaker 1: was twenty nine at the time, which is you know,

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Speaker 1: in reality TV world, is like you're about to age

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Speaker 1: out because like I should apply because I loved the

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Speaker 1: show and I was like this could be fun. And

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Speaker 1: then yeah, then as you know, your whole world changes

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Speaker 1: so fast.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember when you were on the show.

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Speaker 6: Your intro is what like you're intro out of the

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Speaker 6: limo is what really got everyone's attention. I think like

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Speaker 6: knowing you had a following on TikTok and it was

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Speaker 6: very like sex positive and you were very open and

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Speaker 6: honest about that, which in my mind I think is

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Speaker 6: such a like not advantage in a way of like

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Speaker 6: which I think ever since that that has been introduced,

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Speaker 2: But I had no idea what I was doing.

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Speaker 4: Sex positive mean, like.

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Speaker 1: You, I just say this is this is my opinion

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Speaker 1: of it. I don't I never ever use that term

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Speaker 3: You know, but open about what like having it or

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Speaker 3: just talking about position, all of it.

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Speaker 1: Girl talk, you know, it's like the thing is you

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Speaker 1: would talk about with your friends. I talked about publicly

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Speaker 1: on TikTok, I guess. And then I came out of

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Speaker 1: the I went with a vibrator, and then this phrase,

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Speaker 1: you know, oh she's sex positive started coming out. I

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Speaker 1: was like, I mean, I don't know. I'm from Washington.

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Speaker 1: This didn't seem crazy, you know, it's a progressive state.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So I hate the phrase because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give me some like metal of like, oh she's so

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Speaker 1: sex positive. I'm like, no, I just represent many many

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Speaker 1: and talking about sexual experiences and thoughts.

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Speaker 4: So right right.

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Speaker 6: Well, as someone who grew up in like purity culture

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Speaker 6: and stuff, I think of it as a like I

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Speaker 6: mean that as like a complimentary terms. Yeah, Like I

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Speaker 6: in my mind, I'm like seeing people being so comfortable

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Speaker 6: talking about it, especially the way I grew up where

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Speaker 6: it was like so much like you don't talk about

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Speaker 6: it was so refreshing, I think for people who you know,

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Speaker 6: grew up like me, but I would say that you're

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Speaker 6: also in that category too comfortable time. Well yeah, but

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Speaker 6: I'm saying comfortable talking about your you know.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like there were things that

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Speaker 3: I had to like google that I feel like should

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like like callous, I'm actually.

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Speaker 3: About sex, but like I didn't even realize that there

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Speaker 4: I'm like, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like I was just trying to learn how to use

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Speaker 5: Was like what if I put it on my peel?

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Speaker 3: And like I'm having to google these things that like

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Speaker 3: to use like somebody DM me how to insert a

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Speaker 3: mental cop And I was like, I would literally show

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Speaker 3: you if Instagram wouldn't like deactivate my account, because like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: It was like a she was you were very comfortable

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Speaker 6: doing that, and I think people gravitated towards you for

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Speaker 6: that reason. When you got the call to be the Bachelorette,

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Speaker 6: where were you and what what was that experience?

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Speaker 5: Like, I mean just COVID, so I think I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was like I was shocked because, as

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Speaker 1: and I was like, in terms of ranking eleventh place,

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Speaker 1: work here. Yeah, yeah, But then I knew, Like once

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Speaker 1: I was hon I was like, I can't come back

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Speaker 1: to the bank after being quote dildo girl on The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor was very.

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Speaker 5: Awkward for me.

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Speaker 1: So I knew slowly my life was about to shift

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Speaker 1: and do like a one to eighty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so funny you say that because I was

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Speaker 2: It was like, oh yeah, yeah, intimate details. You don't

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Speaker 6: So you get off the show those relationships, that relationship

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Speaker 6: did not work out, right, and now we're sitting here

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Speaker 6: and you're a married woman. And once an Tonia was like,

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's so silly, because you know, once you do

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Speaker 1: He actually thought I was a makeup influencer, which is

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Speaker 1: I think that was what actually helped build a really

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Speaker 1: It was purely conversational, and because we had that first

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Speaker 5: I couldn't even drink. I'd to like set it back down.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, was it the first time you felt like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm normally like way more confident than that, and

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Speaker 1: so the fact that I was all like bashful and

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Speaker 1: giddy around him and like like we just knew. Honestly

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Speaker 1: the first time we were texting, I joked but also

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Speaker 1: kind of was like, Oh, this is going to go somewhere,

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Speaker 1: because you can tell from a first conversation it's beyond

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Speaker 1: like what's your family history?

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Speaker 5: What are you going to call? It's like so much more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, we're gonna have to flip coins for

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Speaker 1: who us to move once we fall in love, because

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be something.

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Speaker 5: Little did I know it was a whole damn marriage,

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Speaker 5: But I know.

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Speaker 6: So when you so, I feel like when you were

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Speaker 6: when I was talking about your dating before the Bachelorette, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you said you were like intentionally looking for that next step,

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Speaker 6: which was marriage, right, Yeah, and then you meet someone

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Speaker 6: and you're like, Okay, I think this is gonna be it.

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Speaker 1: someone who's always been like on it. Now I'm like,

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00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 1: I can't keep track of things very well. Yeah, but

443
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 1: like all things considered, like it's it is manageable, and

444
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,199
Speaker 1: we're still kind of like figuring out like the proper

445
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 1: dosage and like because it is quote forever them on

446
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: this like protocol, I guess we want to find something

447
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 1: that makes it manageable in terms of side effects and whatnot.

448
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 2: So all of those things are you'll be on forever.

449
00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 1: So so every month, so I could I could have

450
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: my ovaries removed. It's such a permanent thing. I'm not

451
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 1: ready to make that decision, but a lot of people do.

452
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: Because the alternative is a monthly shot in your looking ass.

453
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 5: And that sucks. That hurts.

454
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 6: I hate needles. Does your husband do it or do.

455
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 5: You have to go in?

456
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 1: I think I've seen people do it at home. I

457
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: can't even Jeff and I did IVF and you get

458
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: shots in your belly. I couldn't do that. He had

459
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,199
Speaker 1: to do it for me.

460
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Speaker 5: I can't.

461
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 1: I could not stick myself with an ady. I don't

462
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: think I could actually do it.

463
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

464
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Speaker 1: So yeah, every month, I get a shot to suppress

465
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Speaker 1: my ovaries, and then I take like hormone suppressing pills,

466
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: and then this this other drug which is like the

467
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: targeted therapy three weeks on, one week off because it's

468
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: so strong that you have to have that one week

469
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 1: off to allow like your white blood cell counts to

470
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Speaker 1: like recover. So it's I like, right now I'm on

471
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: my quote off week, which is like my favorite week

472
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: because I feel my best, and then when I start

473
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: the new cycle, it's like slowly I'm likedling away and

474
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: then get to reset.

475
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Speaker 4: Did you take birth control like for a long time.

476
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 5: Ten plus years?

477
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

478
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's tough because I talked to my doctor

479
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 1: about that and she's like, well, you know, they they

480
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: say that birth control. Hormonal birth control also decreases your

481
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: chance that like ovarian cancer.

482
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 5: So there's like.

483
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 4: Pros and concept every drug, and.

484
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's not for any unwanted pregnancy. My periods

485
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: were great and my skin was great, But then there's

486
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: also this world of like okay, but also was I

487
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 1: just taking too much like hormones over time? You know,

488
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: like that's the thing with cancer.

489
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Speaker 5: I will say. Everyone always tries to dissect why.

490
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I promise you will not figure it out because.

491
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 4: It's different for everybody.

492
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, should I have been a vegan?

493
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: And then I see a vegan with breast cancers?

494
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

495
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 5: Cause I don't have kids yet, and someone who has

496
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 5: kids has it.

497
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Speaker 1: So there's no answer as much as we want to know,

498
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: like why me, what did I do wrong?

499
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

500
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Speaker 6: I'm so impressed with your like spirit and your attitude

501
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 6: about this because I think it's such a testament to

502
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 6: the person you are, because I I'm thinking about myself

503
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 6: and I just don't know that I would have the

504
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 6: strength and like the I'm just like, you have taken

505
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 6: something that someone could could have and it could just

506
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 6: be such a different crumble. And not only have you

507
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 6: seem to remain so positive and optimistic, but also you're

508
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 6: so passionate about making sure that other people are taking

509
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 6: care of their health and like being so proactive and

510
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 6: helping other people. And I just have to say, I'm

511
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 6: like blown away by you right now.

512
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: Just shut up.

513
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 6: But no, it's just amazing because like you have taken

514
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 6: something that could you could just be mad and why me?

515
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 6: And this is not fair and I'm so young, and

516
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 6: instead you're going, how can I help other people with this?

517
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 6: And how can I remain optimistic so that this is

518
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 6: a story that I get to share my whole life

519
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 6: that can help people. And also, I mean, you can

520
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 6: do any At this point you have to feel like,

521
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 6: well I can handle anything. Well.

522
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

523
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: And as much as like there's moments where you're like, oh,

524
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: you're killing it, it's like there's also moments where I

525
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: was not and I was crumbling on the floor, and

526
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: those those moments still continue. Yeah, it's there's highs and lows.

527
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: But the one thing I did before I was public

528
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: with my diagnosis is look to other people on social

529
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: media for their experience, and that's like what kind of

530
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: helped me. I'm like Oh, there's there's other women with

531
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: breast cancer who were under forty. Oh, and this is

532
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: how they're doing it. I could like see their journey

533
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: just like deep dive on their page, and that helped

534
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: bring me some kind of calm because I.

535
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: Was like, oh, there's other survivors, there's other stage four women.

536
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I was like, well, I have to

537
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: do this. But then also like I have such a

538
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: big platform, It's like, why wouldn't I share my experience

539
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: and help other women, Because who knows if last summer

540
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: there was someone like me being like, hey, you get

541
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: those lumps checked, I might have gone in sooner, you know.

542
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: And so this year's been a crazy year with people

543
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: like Olivia Munn Jesse j all coming out with these

544
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: big platforms of women also then being diagnosed with breast

545
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: cancer and like sharing their their dar I say, journey,

546
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: but you know, and telling people like, hey, breast cancer

547
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: is real no matter what age you're at.

548
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

549
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: I just think it is, Like I feel like it

550
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: can be frustrating because I think not just like like mammograms,

551
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: like we were saying, if you're you don't if you're

552
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: not sent by the doctor or they don't see anything

553
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: like you you have to pay out a pocket for

554
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 3: a mammogram, and like every everything is so expensive, and

555
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 3: so it's like all this stuff feels very like daunting

556
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: and defeating, and so I think a lot of people

557
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: just kind of like, yeah, actually like stored away, you know,

558
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: And I think it should really be in the forefront

559
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: of all of our minds, you know what I mean,

560
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: like and really kind of trying to push the status

561
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: quo and like fighting for those things, even like you know,

562
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: fertility treatments and stuff like none of that's covered through

563
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: insurance and there's still you know, depending on your insurance.

564
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 4: It just it's just sucks.

565
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's it's crazy.

566
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: And I think the dialogue around like breast health is shifting.

567
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: And there's even this study going on where I think

568
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: they're like everyone's like, what's what do we do to

569
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: fix this? Right? And I think the focus is not

570
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: lower the age for mammograms, because not everybody needs one,

571
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: but there does need to be more conversation about like

572
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: how to check for like your breast and bring something

573
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: up what is your family history and not just mom

574
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: breast cancer, but like grandpa pancreatic. Yeah, proceeding like all

575
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: the things, like all the cancer is not just breast

576
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: cancer all it all plays in a role and even

577
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: genetic testing. And so there's a study called the Wisdom Study,

578
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: if anyone wants to look it up. It's it's a

579
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: nonprofit org where there's two studies. One is the standard

580
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: of care right now, which is your mammogram staring at

581
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: forty and then the other you take a swab of

582
00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: your saliva, sent it in. They check your genetic making

583
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: to see if you are at risk for cancer, and

584
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: then based on that they'll give you like a like

585
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: a protocol of like okay, based on what you're sharing

586
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: with your family history and your genetic makeup, we recommend

587
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: doing breast ultrasounds at thirty five. So for example, I

588
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: didn't know, but I have a ATM genetic mutation which

589
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: increases my risk for breast cancer.

590
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 5: It's not as big as braka. Is that how you'd

591
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 5: say it? The main breast cancer?

592
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 6: Oh?

593
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 5: Oh yeah?

594
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: But had I known I had that, I would have

595
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: been told to start breast ultrasounds at age thirty.

596
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, does anyone did anyone in your family have

597
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 2: a history of breast cancer?

598
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 5: Nobody?

599
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, which I think is also why you're like, oh,

600
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I know.

601
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: And then well, I have.

602
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 6: My grandma on my mom's side had breast cancer and

603
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 6: I don't know what her type was. Like I want

604
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 6: to say they thought it was hormone induced, but I've

605
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 6: always had that thought. So I'm always, you know, doing

606
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 6: my regular checkups, but I haven't had a mammogram, and

607
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 6: I'm like.

608
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: I need Like as soon as I heard your story, I.

609
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 6: Was like, I need to go get it checked because

610
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 6: I'm seeing people in their early to mid thirties that

611
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 6: that's the age that we're in, and all of a

612
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 6: sudden you're hearing it. And I think about how I

613
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: viewed it for so long as it was like happening

614
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 6: to older people and like I would deal with it

615
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 6: when I got to that age. Yeah, And so I

616
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 6: think it's just so important that you're taking something and

617
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: you're like educating people and also encouraging people like, hey,

618
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 6: don't age is irrelevant when it comes to cancer.

619
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

620
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 5: Well, and I will say, like.

621
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: Insurance with mammograms, like as a standard schedule, it's like yeah,

622
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: once you're forty. Yeah, But because I had cause to

623
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: get one, insurance we'll cover it. So if if someone

624
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: has a lump in their breast, don't feel like, ohoot,

625
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: about to be out of pocket for all this stuff.

626
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: If you have cause, which is a physical lump, physical

627
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: change in your breast, it's not always lump. Sometimes it's

628
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: like discharge or dimpling, timbling. Yeah, anything that looks off

629
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: with your inverted nipples. There's more than just like a lump.

630
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: But your insurance will cover it because there's there's a

631
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: reason to explore for the They just don't want to

632
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: cover everyone just being like, hey, I just want to

633
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: get one just for peace of mind.

634
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, peace of mind.

635
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 6: Did you have any exit like when you got the diagnosis?

636
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 6: Did you have because you hear that word and then

637
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 6: you have these things of like, what's going to happen?

638
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: What's my life going to look like?

639
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 6: Did you have any things that have happened unexpectedly or

640
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 6: haven't happened at all that you thought when you know

641
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 6: that when you think of cancer and you think of it,

642
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 6: did you have anything that you were like, oh my gosh,

643
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 6: I can't believe I'm going to have to deal with this, or.

644
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 5: I think the biggest one that will make me emotional

645
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 5: is how did you IVF?

646
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: And and and Jeff and I we have two embryos,

647
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: which is great, but because of the type of cancer

648
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I have and at stage four, I won't be able

649
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: to carry my own baby, And that's not something I

650
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: ever had to.

651
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: Like think about around Yeah, and.

652
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Obviously you can seem with my reaction, I don't think

653
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: I even like fully processed it, because that's just not

654
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: a chapter we're in right now, because in the future

655
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: we will be like looking for a surrogate and going

656
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: through that and like and then hope that the only

657
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: two embryos we have because I don't think I can

658
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: do IVF again because that's hormones, Like you're packing your

659
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: body with hormones.

660
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: We just have to hope that it takes.

661
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: So, Like, that was a weird one for me that

662
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I just like I never thought of in terms of

663
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: like first I'm like, oh, well, well I get to breastfeed,

664
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: and now it's not even a matter of that. It's

665
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: like I won't even be able to carry my baby.

666
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: And then also like I think stage four sounds very scary,

667
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: and it is, but I've met so many women who

668
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: are ten years into their diagnosis and living fully and

669
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: the scans are clear, nothing showing up. And so I

670
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: think a lot of people when they first heard I

671
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: was stage four, like we're like, oh, she's like I

672
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: hate to us we're dying, but like, oh, good luck

673
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: to her, you know, like whatever. But I'm like, no, no,

674
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: I plan to be here a very long time. Yeah.

675
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: And so there's just like so much education around breast

676
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: cancer that I'm learning and I want to make sure

677
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: other people know that. It's like, you know, it's scary,

678
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: but like I want to believe, like everything's going to

679
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: be okay.

680
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think your spirit is what's going

681
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 6: to like and I think, you know, life is.

682
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: What you're doing is you're able.

683
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 6: You're offering people a different perspective on life. And I

684
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 6: remember I heard you say to Caitlin, like the truth

685
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 6: is we're all dying, Like we're like every day that

686
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 6: we're alive as we're dying. Yeah, And I thought that

687
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 6: was such an incredible perspective of like live it to

688
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 6: the fullest, even though it sounds so like corny of

689
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 6: like living your life to the fullest, but like it

690
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 6: really is so like thinking about those things and like

691
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: life and kids and you know, marriage and love and

692
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 6: all these things that we so often just are mundane

693
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 6: and everyday things. It's like you're getting this perspective shift

694
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 6: not only in your own life, but that you're getting

695
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 6: to share with other people, because that really affected you

696
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 6: as well hearing that, because I think you hear these

697
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 6: things that people take for granted and it's just like, wow,

698
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 6: if you have the opportunity sees it. Yeah, but I

699
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 6: think you're gonna everything even though it sucks, because it's

700
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 6: like it just sucks, Like I just want to be

701
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 6: like you're so positive and also like it just sucks,

702
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 6: like it sucks, you.

703
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Know, it's it's and like you'll always be like why

704
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: me what you know?

705
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

706
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: But I I I know it sounds so weird saying this,

707
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: but I'm like, if there's anyone to have cancer, let

708
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: it be me, because I have the opportunity to share

709
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: with so many women and make like such an impact

710
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: and like, I'm sorry, please turn like.

711
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 5: Pain into purpose, you know.

712
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: And so it's just as much as you're like, oh dang,

713
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: you're like killing it. You're so Positive'm like no, yeah,

714
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: but there's also like really fucking hard days. Yeah, And

715
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's just what cancer is

716
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: is is not like this upward journey.

717
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 5: Of like positivity.

718
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: It's like high highs low lows and some just like

719
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: numb and and things will sneak up on you when

720
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: you don't expect it.

721
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 5: Like I was.

722
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I was watching Twilight and it was when Bella gets

723
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: pregnant and she's like yeah, and I'm like, oh, that

724
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: would be me if I tried to have a bait

725
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: like it like the random most random thing like tricked

726
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: me and then crying over Bella having a baby and

727
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: dying and turn into advance.

728
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 5: It's so stupid, you know, But that's like what cancer does.

729
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: Like some days you're just like everything's great, and some

730
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: days you're like, ah, why you know.

731
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean that's just the human experience.

732
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 6: Like if you were like I'm just always positive about this,

733
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 6: I'd be like, are you a robot?

734
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 5: What's your medication? And how do I get it?

735
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 6: But I just I think that the way that you have,

736
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 6: like you said, using it as a purpose. And you know,

737
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 6: how has Jeff handled this because y'all, how how long

738
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 6: have you been together when we're all together when you

739
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 6: were diagnosed?

740
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so so we were. We got engaged last

741
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: year August, and then I was diagnosed just this February.

742
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Oh just in February.

743
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow, yeah yeah, so I'm six months into

744
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: my my diagnosis.

745
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, So you all have been together.

746
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 5: For like such, so like a year.

747
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: Oh wait.

748
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: So it's I know, it's so confusing.

749
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, we never had to celebrate a year

750
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: of anything because by the time our one year date

751
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: came up, we had a one year engagement and a

752
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: one year wedding. I'm like, I think we've been together

753
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: a year in total, and all the things that we've.

754
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: Done, you'll have been through a lot.

755
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: Yes, so you've already done all your chemo.

756
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: So so that's the crazy part. So I was supposed

757
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: to have chemotherapy. I had the port installed, and it

758
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: was the day before chemo was supposed to start, and

759
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: there's all this medication you're supposed to take leading up

760
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: to it, and I'd called my doctor and I was like,

761
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand these instructions, like how do I do this?

762
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: She goes, well, hold on, we.

763
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Still have to. We still have got the info back

764
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: on your her two status, which basically means if it's

765
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: her too negative. I actually wouldn't have to do chemo,

766
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: which was insane to hear. Less than twenty four hours

767
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: before my first chemo appointment, I have a port installed,

768
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I have a chemo bag packed my like cold capping

769
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: to like help you like retain your hair. And yeah,

770
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: long story short, I was her too negative, which meant

771
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do chemo at all.

772
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so what you were saying, the shot and

773
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: the medication, that's that's treatment.

774
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 4: That's what it is for forever.

775
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 6: Yep.

776
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: So the start of my official treatment was just oral medication,

777
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: targeted therapy they might call it.

778
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: And that's all I've been doing.

779
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: Did you take your port out?

780
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I have.

781
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: I have.

782
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, why did they put that in there?

783
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: If they did it, well, so, I mean, because you're

784
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: supposed to do it.

785
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: You want to believe that your doctors from the other

786
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: place were correct. So New York doctors were like moving

787
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: forward with everything they had been told from the LA doctors,

788
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: but were also thank god, doing their due diligence and

789
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: be like, okay, we'll proceed as planned, but let's also

790
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: do our checks and balances. And then they're like wait, wait, wait,

791
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: this is actually wrong and they double checked the LA

792
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: doctors like biopsy, and they're like, no, we were even

793
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: retested their test sample. They to this day don't know

794
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: how this happened. It's a whole thing. I filed like

795
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: a grievance and everything. Yeah, yeah, because that's crazy, Like

796
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: imagine me getting because I would have got like the

797
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: wrong treatment. Yeah, and then which would have possibly been chemotherapy,

798
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: which is so hard on your body, and then for

799
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: what for to not actually.

800
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 5: Even work for me, you know. Yeah, that's so I got.

801
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: I had a port for like three weeks and now

802
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: have like a little matching scar to my lumpectomy.

803
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a crazy story.

804
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

805
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: I still like am in shock about that, and like

806
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: this is like the crazy thing too.

807
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 5: Like the day that I got the call.

808
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: This sounds so stupid, but the day I got the

809
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: call that I didn't have to do chemotherapy was the

810
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: same day that Jeff got the call that he was

811
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: getting a Netflix special. So both him and I were

812
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: just on the biggest high that day, just like so

813
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: happy and like celebrating together.

814
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I mean, very exciting news.

815
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Day for us.

816
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 5: I think he probably celebrated.

817
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 6: But so when you got the diagnosis, y'all are engaged

818
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 6: at the time. Yeah, And was was that in terms

819
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 6: of getting married in the y'all eloped?

820
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Correct?

821
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we definitely wanted to do a wedding, and

822
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: when we still do, we will at some point, you know,

823
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: maybe it's a five year celebration. But with everything going on,

824
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: I'll cry very too much.

825
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: Talk about Jeff.

826
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: He was like, I like, am here to stay by

827
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: your side, Like I want to prove that to you.

828
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: I will, I'll marry you tomorrow.

829
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, bet, let's do it. Which,

830
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: come to find out you cannot get married the next day.

831
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 5: There's a lot of like free work.

832
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: You have to do.

833
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: But I was like, yes, like I would love, like,

834
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: let's do that. And so we flew both our parents

835
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: into town. We literally eloped in our apartment, which had

836
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: no furniture because we were moving in together quicker than

837
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: we expected, and just had a little elopement and dinner

838
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: and yeah. And that was just like his way of

839
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: just being like, you know, in sickness and in health,

840
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm here to stay.

841
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: And it was just like he's just the best man

842
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 5: and I'm so lucky to happen.

843
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like today he just literally announced his he

844
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: officially announced his Netflix special, which is why I can

845
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: talk about it. But his tour is coming up and

846
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: he is donating one dollar from every ticket sale to BCRF,

847
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: which is a nonprofit breast cancer organization. I'm just like,

848
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: how did I get like so lucky like to like

849
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: have this man, Because the unfortunate reality is when people,

850
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: especially women, are diagnosed with breast cancer, their partners will

851
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: typically leave, like more likely than not will a partner

852
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: like abandon their their spouse when it comes to cancer.

853
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: Because even though I had a friend who was it

854
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: wasn't cancer at all. She was in the hospital for

855
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter exactly what it was, but it's something

856
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: trivial like it was not it was like she was

857
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: in and out and within like a week. But again

858
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: it was like something it was like had to do

859
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: with an autoimmune disorder that she had, and the guy

860
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: that she was dating like freaked her out and he

861
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: was like peace out.

862
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like what a dude.

863
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, I think women are just like such

864
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: like nurturers and would be like I don't want to say,

865
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: would never do that, but I'm obviously biased. Girls we

866
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't stay through that, you know, and men just go like,

867
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: oh my nurturing caretaker needs caretaking.

868
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I'm out, you know.

869
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so every day I'm just like so thankful

870
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: for like Jeff is like shown up for our relationship.

871
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's really special.

872
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: Nothing he could plan for, Like.

873
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you prepared to be married to a

874
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: cancer patient?

875
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 6: You know, I'm just so happy. I mean, I think

876
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: watching your like, you know, it's you're in such a

877
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 6: unique position because we watched your like a part of

878
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 6: your dating life pay out, and it's so it's so

879
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 6: amazing to see with someone who not only just loves you,

880
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 6: but even through what you're going through.

881
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Is like I'm in it, no questions, and god.

882
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: You guys found each other.

883
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.

884
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy that like, even like you like we had

885
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: to like go through like so much like television and

886
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: trauma didn't find our person off the screen, like what

887
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: the heck?

888
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: But whatever, at least we did it.

889
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: You know.

890
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: It's a stepping stone.

891
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

892
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you gotten to go to Disneyland?

893
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: You heard about that?

894
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: I heard about it. I was upset for you.

895
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 5: No, and no one's called.

896
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: Me still and I don't know. I'm so for those

897
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: of you who don't know what we're talking about. Usually

898
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: the leads get to go to Disneyland as like they're

899
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: like reward like and not just Disneyland, but like like, yeah,

900
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: just get the lines to.

901
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: Bring like your friends and family whatever.

902
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: I did not get to do mine, and I probably

903
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: think about it like once a month. I haven't been

904
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: on the show for like four years. And yeah, so

905
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: we talked about on Kaitlyn Bristol's podcast. So no, not yet.

906
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for my call from somebody.

907
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm about to just take you the Disneyland on the private.

908
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the whole team's changed there now, so

909
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: who you know, if anyone who works at Disney wants

910
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: to let me cut the lines, that's really what it is.

911
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: I just haven't I've never experienced Disney like that, and

912
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: that's so cool. You have to to be able to

913
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: just like sorry, kids, but like I want to skip

914
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: the line, you know, I.

915
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: Want to just enjoy it.

916
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: And I'm so tired all the time that I can't

917
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: imagine now going to Disney and like walking and waiting

918
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: and no, I would be it would be a waste

919
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: of money.

920
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to make this happen. We're gonna make

921
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: this happen.

922
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 6: People people are people, call your people. So what's next?

923
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 6: What's what's your life right now? Well, the big things.

924
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: I have coming up, I have a colonoscope next month

925
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: and then but even bigger than that, I'm having a

926
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: double bistectomy in November. Oh yeah, so fully remove them.

927
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 4: Are you doing the reconstruction?

928
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 5: Yes?

929
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 4: So is it two separate surgeries?

930
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 5: It can be.

931
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go straight to implant, and I'm

932
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: doing that because I'm going to stay the same size.

933
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Some people will have multiple surgeries because either a they're

934
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: going to have radiation, which will then shrink the skin,

935
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: and they'll need expanders because it needs to like stretch

936
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: that skin back out. Maybe they want to go up

937
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: a size, which then also requires expanders. Some people use

938
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: fat from their body and put it in there. There's

939
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: so many different routes you can go. Some people are

940
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: temporarily flat and then six months later we'll do it.

941
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do it all at once, so we'll

942
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: see how that goes. But yeah, that's my big surgery

943
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: in November.

944
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: That's huge.

945
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, that so was that Because I know a lot

946
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: of people that's kind of a Sometimes the doctors are

947
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 6: like this, you have you have to do this, yeah,

948
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 6: and then other people it's a choice because just they're like,

949
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 6: I don't even want it to have a chance to

950
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 6: come back.

951
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

952
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: Was it both for you or did the doctors recommend

953
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: it or was it like a personal choice for you.

954
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: I think if my immediate doctors would have preferred, I'd

955
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: either did a lumpectomy or just nothing, assuming that maybe

956
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: the tumor shrinks completely. It's still there, so we don't

957
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: know what that looks like yet, but I essentially it's

958
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: like I have the choice. You're in charge of your

959
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: body and your health decisions. And so even if my

960
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: immediate breast surgeon was like I recommend a lumpectomy, like, well,

961
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: I want to remove these killer breasts, you know, So

962
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: I found a surgeon who agreed to do it. Because

963
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: that's the other thing with stage four. Some people are like, A,

964
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. And so because my spread was so minor,

965
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: it would just there's a phrase for it. I can

966
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: never pronounce. It's like augliodastic. I'm so butchering that, but

967
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: it means like small spread basically, because I had small

968
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: spread to my liver. My surgeon was like, as long

969
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 1: as the liver lesions are taken care of, then we

970
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: we can proceed with surgery. And so with my last

971
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: scans that they didn't show anything with the liver anymore.

972
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: So she's like, all right, I guess we'll put you

973
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: on the books.

974
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 2: Wow, how do you feel about that?

975
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big surgery and it's so inconvenient. Well,

976
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: I mean the surgery itself, I think it's like maybe

977
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: six hours. I'm under so I won't know, but the

978
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: recovery could be like a month. It just really sucks

979
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: because I spent my whole life like I'm small chested,

980
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: so I spent my whole life finally accepting and loving

981
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: my boobs. I was like, I'm happy, I finally have

982
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: learned self love and these moobs are my boobs, and

983
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: now I have to get rid of them, you know.

984
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: And so that's the disappointing part.

985
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

986
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: The reconstruction might give me like a little confidence boost

987
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: that I don't know I could have.

988
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you might be like these new girls lady.

989
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, Oh, I was gonna ask do you have

990
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 6: are you keeping your last name as of now?

991
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: It's such a pain.

992
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't like I probably don't know when I'll do

993
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: it because there's so many things you have to change,

994
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: your bank account.

995
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 5: Security, your past.

996
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: Have you started because I apparently when you so, I've

997
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: been told when you go to the courthouse and like

998
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: start the process to petition to change your name, they

999
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: give you like a detailed instruction on like where to go,

1000
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 3: what to do, like who to call.

1001
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm really excited to change my name.

1002
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: So he's like, I just like need to do it.

1003
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: No, I feel that it's very special.

1004
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 4: Do you have kids? No?

1005
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: No, do you want kids? I have step kids, step kids.

1006
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 4: Okay, there is.

1007
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: Something that's just very like, I don't know, unifying. If

1008
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: you want just to like share that like mister and

1009
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: missus Art and Currie would be mine.

1010
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: So the plan is too but just I you.

1011
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 6: Have a Yeah, well I was saying about it because

1012
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: when we introduced you, I was like, oh, I wonder

1013
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 6: if she's you know, that's a conversation topic.

1014
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1015
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: We did go to a wedding and I had his

1016
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: last name on like my name.

1017
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: I was like, it's been writing.

1018
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

1019
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: I remember my first letter that I got in the

1020
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: mail with like both of our names on it.

1021
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, well, thank you so much

1022
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: for coming on and also being so open and vulnerable

1023
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 6: and sharing your story in every aspect because I am

1024
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 6: blown away by you.

1025
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: I think you're amazing, and I.

1026
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 6: Hope that everything moving forward is of ease and goodness

1027
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 6: and celebration.

1028
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really.

1029
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: Really hope that you stay as strong and positive and

1030
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 3: just get good news, good news, good news.

1031
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: I hope it only is good news.

1032
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 5: Thank you for me.

1033
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask, because I skipped over it, But

1034
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 6: your comedy career.

1035
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 5: I'm in retirement now.

1036
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: If anything, I have a whole new like life experiences

1037
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: to write about.

1038
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's definitely not a thing on my list.

1039
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 6: I think that would be one of the hardest things

1040
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 6: that someone could get me to do, like going and try,

1041
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 6: like like going on a stage and being like I

1042
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 6: need everyone to laugh at what I'm saying. That sounds

1043
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 6: I don't think I could ever do that, So I'm

1044
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 6: just like blown away at the I loved it.

1045
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: In a moment.

1046
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah it was great.

1047
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, but now with everything going on and even

1048
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: like the brain fog, I don't know I could do

1049
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: it because I would just like space out on stage

1050
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: and then be like, all right, guys, I guess the

1051
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: show's over.

1052
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: Now because I don't remember anything anymore.

1053
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 6: You're like, I have my flash guards, but that's yeah,

1054
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 6: that's it. Well, thank you so much for being here.

1055
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 6: I'm so happy that I finally got to meet you.

1056
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 5: Crazy.

1057
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy that you guys haven't met I know.

1058
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: I was like everybody from the Bachelor World were like

1059
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: best friends.

1060
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: But everyone there's like hubs, like different cities. Everyone lives

1061
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: in our states, and so it's like you might meet

1062
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: like I've met a lot of San Diego people and show,

1063
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: but now I'm in New York, so you'll meet like

1064
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: the New Yorkers.

1065
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, New York. How's New York life?

1066
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 5: Oh my, it's so different.

1067
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 7: It's so hot and ikey, I'm just not a city girl,

1068
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 7: but I need to be because you know, Jeff, Jeff

1069
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 7: a comic and like New York's the place for the comedians.

1070
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: When he's not like on the road, he's like they're

1071
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: the comedy seller. So I think it'll take a minute

1072
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: for New York to like, you know, rub off on me.

1073
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 6: But I think when it cools down and you're getting

1074
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 6: the fall weather and like the leaves in Central Park,

1075
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 6: I think you're gonna adapt.

1076
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 5: Christmas and Christmas.

1077
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're do you just need to cool down?

1078
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing. It's it's so thick.

1079
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 7: Um.

1080
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I waste my whole summer being indoors because it's

1081
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: too hot to cause.

1082
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: It's a lot here right now too, we've been indoors.

1083
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 6: Tanya wears a sweater set every day, so she's in

1084
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: these offices.

1085
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: What do you want for me?

1086
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: I'll never wear like a fun summer's dress to work

1087
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: because it's like frigid here.

1088
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 6: Thank you Katie for being on the podcast. Where can

1089
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 6: people follow you on TikTok all the things?

1090
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Well, Instagram's like my main thing, I think. So I'm

1091
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: just at the Katie Thurston for all my updates.

1092
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 5: I have a booby broadcast that people.

1093
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Can join on Instagram and read in more depth about

1094
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: like where I'm at with the medical journey and going

1095
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: through So oh that's cool.

1096
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: So we're is it? It's a live.

1097
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: It's on Instagram.

1098
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: It's like it's kind of thing of it, like a

1099
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: large group chat, like I think sixty thousand members in it.

1100
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 5: Honest, it's a welcome What are those things like Reddit?

1101
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: No, no, the things that ever? Like, we have one

1102
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: for honor with Ryan. What's it called? What's it called

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Speaker 4: broadcast channel?

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Speaker 5: It is a broadcast channel, thank you. Yes, it's called

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Speaker 5: Booby broadcast. Yeah yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the broadcast channel option on Instagram. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can just name it and that's what I named it.

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00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: Do your audience can say engage back. Yes, it's so cool.

1109
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's miniature Reddit through Instagram.

1110
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going to be more positive than

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00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: Reddit though.

1112
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because it's your it's your supporters and not

1113
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: your your hat.

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Speaker 5: You just block them. You never see them again.

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Speaker 2: It's an ideal situation. Yes, yes, well go follow Katie. Katie,

1116
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: thank you for taking time and being here and we

1117
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: wish you the best.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Two