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Speaker 3: Hey y'all take me back, bro, take me back to
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine, twenty ten. Boh, we were running
Speaker 3: through the at L streets. T what what?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: That was the best time in my life. Why boys, man,
Speaker 5: y'all changed my life. Whoy was this a little green
Speaker 5: kid from India?
Speaker 1: And why ain't no nothing.
Speaker 4: Ours but know nothing?
Speaker 5: Hey, these boys got a challenger.
Speaker 3: Man, I tell I tell the story. Uh even one
Speaker 3: night we got in. It had to be by two
Speaker 3: three in the morning, and uh me, you and Josh
Speaker 3: had a challenger and we was on the freeway racing.
Speaker 3: I'm the only one guy pulled over and y'all kept going,
Speaker 3: I said, man, listen, I went on, pulled over. I
Speaker 3: don't want no problem. He let me go any damn way,
Speaker 3: so you know, cool, But he them with some good times.
Speaker 1: Bro, that some good times.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I hate it, you know it had to end the
Speaker 3: way it did. But I always say, it's the house
Speaker 3: that Dominique built. Help me Josh and t. We put
Speaker 3: a little stucco, you know, we we we put some
Speaker 3: new lighting, you know, some new side in there. Trade
Speaker 3: came in and renovated that thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: I think Jaylen Johnson got a chance to redo the
Speaker 3: whole thing.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep it one hunting Bro. I think
Speaker 3: this Hawks team it's gonna surprise a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Obviously defensively we can guard. Uh, we just gotta be
Speaker 3: able to score and rebound. I just think the size.
Speaker 3: Like as much as I like the Flemings kid from
Speaker 3: from Houston, I love him as from a point guard perspective,
Speaker 3: but we do need a little more beef down there, Bro,
Speaker 3: to help them boys out, because that's really what hurt
Speaker 3: us against the Knicks.
Speaker 5: I don't know I've seen that they had a trade
Speaker 5: in for like people been talking about Jared Allen.
Speaker 4: If we can get Jared Allen, man, I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you y'all think hold on, hold up, y'all think
Speaker 3: Cleveland get rid of it.
Speaker 5: Nah, I mean they go. They gotta get out of
Speaker 5: that second apron though. They gonna have some money around.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the facts, because they they wanted the top the
Speaker 7: top ones, ain't they Jeff, Yeah, they got.
Speaker 5: That one of the highest payrolls for sure. And Donald
Speaker 5: he ain't holding back on nobody. He just got that new.
Speaker 6: He said, I put a ring on I just put
Speaker 6: a ring on it too.
Speaker 1: I gotta like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the NBA has definitely, Uh, the landscape of the
Speaker 3: league has changed.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know you're looking from how the game is played now,
Speaker 3: it ain't. It ain't no post players no more. You know,
Speaker 3: you probably got three post players for real, for real,
Speaker 3: mb Jo Kic here, who else?
Speaker 6: So I said they copy basement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really ain't no post players.
Speaker 3: It's not, bro, it's not the game. The game has changed, man.
Speaker 3: And hey, the way they getting up and down the
Speaker 3: floor scoring these points.
Speaker 1: It's a guard heavy league.
Speaker 6: Boy.
Speaker 5: I wish I was just ten years younger. Boy had
Speaker 5: a pass ball to you niggas. I mean, you guys,
Speaker 5: you know, show a little different. Hey, you know you
Speaker 5: know time it was a little different.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know you got thrust into that, but you held
Speaker 3: your own, bro. But yeah, we needed that. We needed
Speaker 3: that peakd T that when y'all was out here running
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, running you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the one that's.
Speaker 4: Young, bro I was too young. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 5: Y'all was already a seasoned team, bro y'all, y'all just
Speaker 5: came off that playoff match up with Boston. Y'all was
Speaker 5: already kind of heading towards the right way. Y'all needed bit,
Speaker 5: y'all need a Kurt. I wasn't ready, but boy, when
Speaker 5: we got d Roll, I was like, I can't stay
Speaker 5: with this young boy. I can't say with it either,
Speaker 5: but I could I could take it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had, Hey, you had to get on your horses.
Speaker 3: Black what It's a big difference. I think the point
Speaker 3: guard spot, broh. I watched my guy there's a cuff
Speaker 3: play for the Sacramento Now, you know, you gonna have
Speaker 3: your lumps and bruises at that position, because that's the
Speaker 3: hardest position to come into the league and play, because
Speaker 3: you're gonna come in and you're gonna have your two
Speaker 3: guard like Zach Levine, who's been in the league for
Speaker 3: quite some time now, you got to try to figure
Speaker 3: out how you can get yours off and how you
Speaker 3: get these other guys involved as well. It's similar to
Speaker 3: the quarterback in football. You know, what I mean, like,
Speaker 3: you gotta know how to distribute. You gotta know, you
Speaker 3: gotta go through your reeds. You gotta be able to
Speaker 3: pick stuff up a lot faster than a guy who's
Speaker 3: not a point guard or quarterback. So that point guard
Speaker 3: position hard, bro, especially when you come in and you
Speaker 3: ain't played the whole first round Tau and DN damn
Speaker 3: you run into Now you gotta guard the MVP. Like,
Speaker 3: I get it, Bro, I get it. I know that
Speaker 3: was challenging.
Speaker 5: It was challenging, But the hardest part is like realizing
Speaker 5: that y'all have grown in. Like I just came from
Speaker 5: everybody nineteen eighteen on my college team, not coming to
Speaker 5: that team with y'all twenty eight thirty, married, got kids.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to leave. I'm trying to tell y'all what
Speaker 5: to do. Y'all like, hey, boy, swing it over here.
Speaker 5: I don't worry about nothing they talk about. And you know, everybody,
Speaker 5: I didn't know about contracts and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: As a young boy. You don't know none of that stuff.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, but that's why I heard you said before.
Speaker 3: That's why it's great to have ex vts on the
Speaker 3: coaching staff. You know, Ta, you had Nick van Ex
Speaker 3: When I was a rookie, I had Lester Kanna, and
Speaker 3: they would tell you the straight They would tell you
Speaker 3: straight up. Hey, look, bro, Lester Connor told me say, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you need to be in the bed by noon. I
Speaker 3: mean by twelve o'clock midnight. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You don't need to be out all night. You need
Speaker 3: to eat this way, you need to eat that way.
Speaker 3: You need to get to the gym. If we got
Speaker 3: practice at twelve noon, you need to be there at
Speaker 3: ten o'clock getting your work in them by the time
Speaker 3: them dudes get their the vets. Hell, you not already
Speaker 3: worked out twice. You just ready for practice. So it's
Speaker 3: little stuff like that, like even from him, because y'all know,
Speaker 3: hell y'all played on the Lester Condor with me here
Speaker 3: and let man listen the man wild call me to
Speaker 3: his house at night, Bro. His wife would cook and like,
Speaker 3: you know, just teaching me certain things to eat out. Yeah, now,
Speaker 3: don't don't put too much not too much mail, not
Speaker 3: too much ketchup.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's just little things like that that as a professional athlete, Bro,
Speaker 3: you appreciate, because.
Speaker 1: Man, you come in you be so Green.
Speaker 3: You don't know, you're just so happy that you made
Speaker 3: it to the league, and you're like, I'm finna put on,
Speaker 3: I'm finna put on you man, listen, you got to
Speaker 3: fall in line, bro, you got to figure it out.
Speaker 3: That's the hardest part. That's the hardest part by being
Speaker 3: a pro.
Speaker 6: Yeah understanding, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Know that was tough for you though y'all just come
Speaker 5: out of high school. I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 3: Boy, now ho hold, not just coming out of high school,
Speaker 3: but smooth, you got drafted to the Hawks? You from here? Bro,
Speaker 3: Like tell her tell us, like real talk, tell us
Speaker 3: how that first year was. And then because I know,
Speaker 3: I think y'all only won thirteen games? Yeah what what
Speaker 3: that what they were hearing on?
Speaker 1: Bro? What that was?
Speaker 6: Like? It was?
Speaker 7: But that was that was That was a hard times
Speaker 7: because I you know, you you thinking like when you
Speaker 7: whatever situation you stepping into, you thinking like.
Speaker 6: This is this this has to be the stereo for everybody?
Speaker 6: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Like, so I'm thinking, like every ownership, every every team
Speaker 7: is getting treated like how we getting treated. So I'm like,
Speaker 7: I'm just a deer head like I had Antoine Walker yeah,
Speaker 7: he was.
Speaker 6: He was probably the best, the coolest back.
Speaker 7: But we had like Kenny Anderson, yeah, Jeff Willis, Like they.
Speaker 6: Used to get into it all the time. Bro.
Speaker 7: So then you had you had our Harrington. But he
Speaker 7: he was like on his he was like on his deal.
Speaker 7: So he really wasn't trying to He really wasn't. He
Speaker 7: really was messing with me like that you in my way.
Speaker 7: I ain't got nothing to take you. I'm like like
Speaker 7: six years years in. He's like, man, I'm still in
Speaker 7: the league, bro, I ain't got nothing to tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And so I used to kind of like Leano Antoine
Speaker 7: because like Kevin, like Kevin Willis just wanted to give
Speaker 7: me like the rookie experience, but he never wanted to
Speaker 7: do nothing. Like I remember, I had always coming in
Speaker 7: with a nasty number from number forty two. I was
Speaker 7: coming there get my little a you number. That ship
Speaker 7: was Dashy's hell that I think about it. But it
Speaker 7: was like we're gonna sign Kevin Willis, can you uh
Speaker 7: can you change jerseys? I'm like all right, I I
Speaker 7: just picked five, Like, man, just give me five.
Speaker 6: It was for like no reason. I just threw a
Speaker 6: number out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So that's how it worked.
Speaker 6: Then when he came in, they was like people telling.
Speaker 7: Me how to Oh man, they gonna you know, the
Speaker 7: veterans show love when you when you give your jersey up,
Speaker 7: they're gonna give you somebody just that. The third I'm like, cool,
Speaker 7: all right, man, I'm rubbing. I'm rubbing my hands together,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I see him, what up? Y'all?
Speaker 7: He come, Joe just messing with me the whole time
Speaker 7: I'm in there. I'm like, all right, bro, this is
Speaker 7: I guess I'm getting the rookie haze from him. So
Speaker 7: I used to stay stay connected to Antoine whenever the
Speaker 7: chance I got. He was of everything though, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a real one.
Speaker 1: Sure yeah.
Speaker 3: Now listen, you know twe and Kenny Anderson smooth. You know,
Speaker 3: they were my best when I was a rookie in Boss.
Speaker 6: See. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: These these kids today, don't they They threw It's like
Speaker 7: training day with them type niggas.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Ah, man, Hey, hey, hold up,
Speaker 3: t did you have to carry the backpack.
Speaker 5: When you were now y'all know, y'all popped my Cary
Speaker 5: did all that stuff to me.
Speaker 7: Man, he didn't want to carry about, didn't want to
Speaker 7: carry the back pack.
Speaker 6: He wanted to carry back.
Speaker 7: He wanted to carry it back pack, saying I carried
Speaker 7: the backpack. You know what I'm saying that, Jacky. I
Speaker 7: know that feeling, boy, because I had two other rookers
Speaker 7: with me, Joe Forte and Kedrick Brown Hell, and we
Speaker 7: all had to carry backpass.
Speaker 1: Not only backpacks.
Speaker 3: We had to get coffee in the morning. Don't I'm
Speaker 3: talking about these dudes. We wasn't even eating this stuff,
Speaker 3: drinking none of this stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh I know, Oh, trust me, I know, yeah, oh,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: You had to make a few store runs.
Speaker 5: I had to get chrisy morning. I left them in
Speaker 5: my locker. I put them at the top. They was green.
Speaker 5: I remember smooth opening up. They was green because I
Speaker 5: just kept recycling them. I'm like, they don't even eat them.
Speaker 3: We had we had time, Broy. I think about those times.
Speaker 3: You know, Uh, there was always something going on. I
Speaker 3: always tell people Brown say, listen, Hell, they always talking
Speaker 3: about man, why the letter? Howks ain't never won no championship?
Speaker 3: Damn man, something going on every damn not soon we
Speaker 3: leave up Rina. Listen, we're going right up the street
Speaker 3: hitting Lucky Loud. We probably go go to the comedy
Speaker 3: spot before we hit the spot. A concert. It might
Speaker 3: be a concert one night. Somebody may have a big punty.
Speaker 3: It was something going on, some jumping in.
Speaker 7: Caller trail Bud, it's time to the owners. Was trying
Speaker 7: to go low budget on the coaches. To what you say,
Speaker 7: It was like, takey who got this one point at
Speaker 7: one point five? An't give us a chance on that.
Speaker 6: It was blessing new coaches and stuff.
Speaker 7: Now guys said their first coaches cribs off to let
Speaker 7: the horse down.
Speaker 6: Don don't do that. He had no pop.
Speaker 5: I remember one time we went out, man, I went
Speaker 5: to I knew the schedule to go out because you know,
Speaker 5: I wasn't playing, so I knew who.
Speaker 1: To go with on Wednesday?
Speaker 7: Who was going on phone after the game? Joe answer,
Speaker 7: you know, go ahead.
Speaker 1: He asking that.
Speaker 6: He was like, just meet me there.
Speaker 4: He's gonna tell you.
Speaker 6: He's gonna tell you. He's gonna tell you.
Speaker 7: We're gonna we're gonna do this and that rather the
Speaker 7: game and then they don't that thing.
Speaker 3: We ain't don't do that because we was in there.
Speaker 4: You used to get there.
Speaker 1: I just wasn't about to do that because.
Speaker 3: I know now if it was if it was something
Speaker 3: going on, damn it. We was there. I'm talking about
Speaker 3: We was there. You and me don't what it was.
Speaker 4: We went to the club at ten.
Speaker 5: We opened the club up and listened to no Hands
Speaker 5: for two hours.
Speaker 1: We hold on.
Speaker 3: We had just left like a concert or something. We
Speaker 3: were the first one in the spot that Roscoe Dash
Speaker 3: come on, no head.
Speaker 5: But we was in there for two hours before somebody
Speaker 5: got there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, time man at But before you got to
Speaker 3: the a bro, we were lean with it, rock with it.
Speaker 1: We were doing all that.
Speaker 4: I'm mad I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: I hurt.
Speaker 6: They tried to send me to the G League.
Speaker 5: One day, y'all was going to Miami, and y'all was like, boy,
Speaker 5: you gotta go to the G League.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah.
Speaker 5: He was like, dang, we were going to Miami. Y'all
Speaker 5: was like, I beg rick clun I was I pleased.
Speaker 5: I beg you'll like, please, man, I don't think I
Speaker 5: would get better down there.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 3: After that, they said it's time out for the foolery.
Speaker 3: They they went and hide that hide that other man.
Speaker 3: And he came in. He started with me, you got
Speaker 3: me up out of there, got Marve up out of here.
Speaker 3: Next thing I know is that things weren't the same.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the same at all.
Speaker 6: Boy, it wasn't the same. I was ready to get
Speaker 6: on up out of there. Small.
Speaker 3: So when you went to Detroit, tell me something, because
Speaker 3: you went over there and you played the three and
Speaker 3: you had been playing pretty much the Fold with us,
Speaker 3: I'm saying they that's what they were telling you before
Speaker 3: you came over there.
Speaker 7: Oh man, when I signed the contract, they was like boom, werena,
Speaker 7: you're gonna play the three.
Speaker 6: I'm like, huh, I'm like no, like no, brother, let
Speaker 6: me you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I've been playing the Fold for nine years. Like I
Speaker 7: don't got to cust into that position. Like, just bring
Speaker 7: one of us up, Like if you just like sign me,
Speaker 7: just bring Greg a drumming off the bench, one of them.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, because both of them kind
Speaker 7: of similar games. They just you know, will drummers. I mean, uh,
Speaker 7: Greg was more of a poster player, but like as
Speaker 7: far as like just down low scoring, like they were
Speaker 7: more like down there in the paint. I was like,
Speaker 7: more perimeter base and I could be more versatile, like
Speaker 7: guarding people. So I'm like just they're like, nah, we're
Speaker 7: gonna play all three of y'all together. I'm like, man,
Speaker 7: it's just somebody getting fired. Bro, somebody's not gonna work. Bro,
Speaker 7: it's not gonna work. So I got the weight down,
Speaker 7: and you know what I'm saying. I started figuring out
Speaker 7: position the position probably like a month into the season,
Speaker 7: because you know, it's it's a different position playing in
Speaker 7: the three from the four.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7: He was chasing guys around screens and running through pick
Speaker 7: and roll.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's the scores position the two in the league.
Speaker 7: Man cooked me Bro the first the first game he
Speaker 7: just got the ninety ball.
Speaker 6: He was like, yeah, that's why y'all gave me the ninety.
Speaker 7: It ain't nothing I can do, though, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, I'm fighting through screens contested.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 6: I was so mad.
Speaker 7: Bro. The next the next time we played him, I
Speaker 7: wore his ass out though. I was like, Bro, like
Speaker 7: they be bad, Bro, mark the calendar. I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 7: wait till we play in the end again.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Just got paid. Man, he went slap off y'all. When
Speaker 5: y'all boys left, Man, it wasn't the same. Hey what,
Speaker 5: but it was a little better for you though. I
Speaker 5: see you you you you went ham out there. I
Speaker 5: got I got the ball. It was a little different,
Speaker 5: but it was we ain't go out I was. I
Speaker 5: was still trying to I was still trying to hold
Speaker 5: onto the memories. Bro, I'm going out by myself. I'm
Speaker 5: inviting people. Ain't nobody showing up. It was just different, Bro, I.
Speaker 3: Can imagine, Bro, I can but listen, y'all brought some
Speaker 3: y'all brought some love to the city.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: WHI ch'all made is Jeff to the Eastern Eastern Conference. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we went, y'all, y'all playing against that Cleveland team brin Kyrie.
Speaker 4: We wentn't once. Yeah, we got swept though, So.
Speaker 3: Damn Hey, when y'all be shooting at team, we y'all
Speaker 3: be shooting the five twenty.
Speaker 5: We got a studio and where Indianapolis. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: while you're gonna come to the studio.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, man, I'll pull up on y'all come in town.
Speaker 5: We used to shoot at my crib. I don't shoot
Speaker 5: there no more. Smooth, came came to the.
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all come to that, man, I do some yoga
Speaker 3: with y'all. Man, y'all come do some yoga with me.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, last time you said that, hold on smooth.
Speaker 4: Last time we came to the.
Speaker 6: Letter, we came for Joe. Yeah, remember that what I
Speaker 6: had to sub in.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk. We didn't talked about this and got
Speaker 3: over this already. We didn't talked about it and got over.
Speaker 5: We went up to the ice old yogas spot looking for.
Speaker 6: You might be here doing yer. Joe.
Speaker 3: Gonna pull up bro, Hey, listen, listen, y'all got a
Speaker 3: good y'all got a good yoga studio. I like out
Speaker 3: there in Indiana. Bro to pull up on y'all for real.
Speaker 3: I want that man, you know, come out there and
Speaker 3: bless the studio. Man, see what got going on? Please
Speaker 3: do Bro? I do young, I've never done it before.
Speaker 4: I tried.
Speaker 1: To much.
Speaker 3: Grew up in church, I think DC usually what youngest.
Speaker 8: Of seven, youngest your eight youngest eight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you grew up in church, bro, Yes, sir, all.
Speaker 8: Day every day. My daddy was sixty one when you
Speaker 8: had me.
Speaker 9: So you know what I'm saying, yeah, man, call me al,
Speaker 9: don't play with me, call me a grand brother.
Speaker 4: Oh so, just having.
Speaker 9: That spiritual you know what I'm saying, foundation, bro, it
Speaker 9: kind of kept me.
Speaker 8: It kept me in line.
Speaker 9: You feed me anytime that you know, I felt like
Speaker 9: I was being teared or I ain't feeling like doing
Speaker 9: something by stopped. Spirit always had me, you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying, kept me in chick week week.
Speaker 8: The flesh is weak, my boy, Hello smooth.
Speaker 7: You grew up in church, broh hovery man hopefully like
Speaker 7: he did, like he did. Thank God for basketball. My
Speaker 7: mom was trying to put my tall less in the choir.
Speaker 7: I was like telling my mom, you're gonna go ahead
Speaker 7: of going whoop me man, I ain't.
Speaker 6: I can't six five catching the Holy Faith. I can't
Speaker 6: do that. Man, you got back.
Speaker 7: Man's back there laughing and you know, catching the Holy.
Speaker 3: Man the same way over here, bro, I grew up Baptist. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: Ribbon everybody.
Speaker 3: Oooh, DC ain't gonna lie to you. You know, my
Speaker 3: grandma made me get in the choir. That's just what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 9: You know what I mean, didn't nothing until you was
Speaker 9: a deacon. I'm like legend. Man, I'm in here training
Speaker 9: to be a.
Speaker 3: Fact until you've been a deacon and you had to
Speaker 3: get up in the choir and you had to get
Speaker 3: up there on Sunday, on Easter Sunday and say that. Say, boy,
Speaker 3: you ain't done nothing. Don't talk to me about it.
Speaker 3: To do it life.
Speaker 6: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 7: But you're strong, You're strong. You was a strong one
Speaker 7: for that one, Joe. Hey, but I had to get
Speaker 7: I had to get my ass whooped. I was cool
Speaker 7: with the whooping.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 8: Did y'all never play for the Church League?
Speaker 6: Huh?
Speaker 8: Did y'all never the Church Yeah? I did?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah No, because hey, listen, you know when when we
Speaker 3: were young, we were coming up bro any league that
Speaker 3: we could play and say it ain't like today. All
Speaker 3: these kids got trainers and all that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You see, everybody got a training Now, all we did
Speaker 3: was who So if the Church League was jumping, we
Speaker 3: were playing in the Church League on Sunday, they hooping
Speaker 3: up at the court. We're going to play at the
Speaker 3: court with the fellas, you know what I mean. Anyway,
Speaker 3: they was hooping. That's how we got better.
Speaker 6: DC. I'm gonna be real.
Speaker 8: I thought I thought I was y'all in my head. Bro,
Speaker 8: I really, I ain't.
Speaker 1: Even gonna lie.
Speaker 8: If I put I can do whatever I put my
Speaker 8: mind to. But I realized when I go see y'all play,
Speaker 8: I'm like, no, Nigga, that was not what you were
Speaker 8: supposed to be doing. Like y'all is great, like y'all
Speaker 8: gotta it's a certain physique of an NBA player away life, Bro,
Speaker 8: I ain't no grocer.
Speaker 9: I was like nineteen yeah, you mean I'm five fold
Speaker 9: until I was like nineteen on six.
Speaker 3: Six mool Yeah. When when did you know you really
Speaker 3: had a chance, bro, to make it to the league.
Speaker 3: I'm saying like that was the play the entire time
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 6: Just trying to play basketball, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, even like in junior high and all that,
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 6: I had no idea. You know what I'm saying, You didn't.
Speaker 7: Now you now you get older, you be like, okay,
Speaker 7: I see why my my dad did this, Like he
Speaker 7: quit his job when when I was in high school,
Speaker 7: he was at home.
Speaker 6: A little more. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: he knew.
Speaker 7: Like now, I know, like, man, I gotta stay close
Speaker 7: to this little you know what this little niggas. So
Speaker 7: I'm like, shit, okay, cool, I got it. I ain't
Speaker 7: understanding until like my senior in high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I did gave me a little talk, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, because I still was thinking about going to college.
Speaker 7: I was talking about going to Indiana and all that.
Speaker 7: He was like, Bro, we ain't doing that through thirty.
Speaker 3: Boy, love pete boy. We might have to get old school.
Speaker 3: We had to get that's really Atlanta right there. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember Dan.
Speaker 6: He played he from all be but you know we
Speaker 6: was over there Ben Hill.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He played one side.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: That that's why I started playing. You know what I'm
Speaker 7: saying basketball that over there at Ben Hill.
Speaker 9: You know what you got?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 9: Good?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man started with really yeah, with the real, with the
Speaker 6: real pros.
Speaker 1: Real.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, that's how you learned how to play little
Speaker 3: you know how you put the little the court together?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: Today you know, hey, hey, but that's how you learned.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: When we was kids, Bro, we just played, you know,
Speaker 3: we we we just played the game coming up.
Speaker 4: Bro, you know what I played.
Speaker 8: I played baseball all the way to the end. That's
Speaker 8: how I know I'm real good at that.
Speaker 9: Oh I played everything baseball, football, basketball, but baseball for show,
Speaker 9: for show.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 9: I talked a lot of ship about anything else but
Speaker 9: baseball for show.
Speaker 8: I can pack that up all day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you played any other sports?
Speaker 7: No straight straight basketball. I tried to throw to him
Speaker 7: at all. My dead was not playing.
Speaker 6: He wasn't going for it. Go to school. I like,
Speaker 6: I wanted to play back. I want to play football.
Speaker 6: He's like, but hell no.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I have.
Speaker 7: He went on the road because he drove trucks. I
Speaker 7: have slide, slid over there to my mama. Mam got there,
Speaker 7: signed me up.
Speaker 6: So he came on.
Speaker 7: When he came home, he seen the pass on the
Speaker 7: ground way, he gave it to me because school and
Speaker 7: ain't buying your dumb man's.
Speaker 6: No cleats you my wife college talk to him, but
Speaker 6: he was I was out there slipping the slider. God damn.
Speaker 6: I like, but I was like, man, you know what, man,
Speaker 6: I ain't I ain't playing no more.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I already know he speaking of football. Speaking of football,
Speaker 3: what's up, y'all?
Speaker 1: Falcons? Fans. What's up?
Speaker 8: Absolutely okay, I gotta take.
Speaker 6: This.
Speaker 1: I'm paying free.
Speaker 3: He's finna telling life. You gotta take a drink.
Speaker 6: I need to take me a drake to bro.
Speaker 3: What's up? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Smooth?
Speaker 6: We're paying freaks, Bro.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm I'm in Atlanta everything braves, That's what
Speaker 7: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying. They owe me, man,
Speaker 6: They owe me too. They owe me a couple of times.
Speaker 6: They owe me from that situation.
Speaker 3: They even recovered from that, even if that was the one.
Speaker 6: But he had to sit there so much on five Bro,
Speaker 6: Oh my.
Speaker 9: God, I don't think people listen to I ain't seen
Speaker 9: a lot of people people I ain't.
Speaker 8: I ain't really get a chance to see Jordan's place.
Speaker 8: I saw a bro when he had TV like that. Bro,
Speaker 8: My f one't even watching ship.
Speaker 1: You feel me?
Speaker 9: You wan't going to those games, Bro, I actually got
Speaker 9: a chance to see. I used to hear stories.
Speaker 8: I used to we used to sit down and watch
Speaker 8: this nigga as a family.
Speaker 6: High school, the greatest greatest thing we ever had. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I ain't seen nothing like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we needed that man.
Speaker 6: Listen three man, I was. I ain't got over. I
Speaker 6: ain't got who I was, but that was that was crazy, bron,
Speaker 6: Let me.
Speaker 8: Break Let me tell you something. Let me break it
Speaker 8: down for I was talking so much ship.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 8: This is why I'm so mad. Brouse them nigga could
Speaker 8: have walked my ass in there, broke them Nigga like
Speaker 8: faulty deep.
Speaker 1: I'm in. That's said it boy. You know me?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all that, bro.
Speaker 8: It's three of twenty eighty three.
Speaker 9: Nigga, I'm talking so much cash money. I'm like, you
Speaker 9: know what, I'm gonna go take a smoke break.
Speaker 1: I'm chilling.
Speaker 8: We won this nigga by third quarter. My energy change
Speaker 8: by the fourth quarter. I remember this s like it
Speaker 8: we yesterday nigga. We gone transferred to go watch the game.
Speaker 8: Now I'm at the whole nother nigga house, but don't
Speaker 8: glued to the TV.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're down.
Speaker 3: If folk.
Speaker 6: That when we talked the ball on.
Speaker 9: His helmant, Yeah, my heart started being fastest listen because
Speaker 9: I knew something was Look.
Speaker 8: I said, I know they're not about to do this, ship.
Speaker 8: I know they're not about to do this.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 9: Those folks scold again game and this schools still twenty
Speaker 9: eight thom folks came all the way back from three point.
Speaker 9: All we had to do was sco one te now
Speaker 9: and we stopped doing everything we were doing in the
Speaker 9: first quarter.
Speaker 6: Then why then why.
Speaker 8: I love the Falcon, But but y'all ripped my heart
Speaker 8: out my ship.
Speaker 3: Then, boy, oh man, hey, hey, y'all know, I know, man,
Speaker 3: I apologize brou They built the merced that beautiful stadium
Speaker 3: right after that thinking they were gonna make it right back.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I ain't trying to rub it in on y'all, just saying, bro,
Speaker 3: like I like going to the game.
Speaker 1: Oh what are you though? Can I.
Speaker 3: I'm a cowboy fan. Ain't gonna lie to y'all.
Speaker 6: I'm a cowboy fan, a cowboy fan for.
Speaker 3: Listen. Hey, I'm from Yeah, I'm from a little rock
Speaker 3: bro So you know, hey, man, because to us the
Speaker 3: Dallas bro, I've been a cowboy fan. I was born
Speaker 3: in it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I understand that, So listen.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we play the Foucon this year,
Speaker 3: but if we do, made me, you and Smook and
Speaker 3: you know, put a little something on it.
Speaker 6: You know absolutely, you know, I don't know you're talking
Speaker 6: about the foucons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna buy You're gonna be.
Speaker 6: You gotta get our quarterback.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on, you're gonna think they're
Speaker 3: gonna Why do you keep doing it?
Speaker 1: Doing it? Why y'all keep doing that?
Speaker 8: Hold on, They're gonna be the same conversation every year.
Speaker 6: Do you think we know? No?
Speaker 8: Hold on, I'm gonna tell you me.
Speaker 9: And what when I'm telling you what we're gonna have
Speaker 9: to do is, first of all, we gotta stop. I
Speaker 9: don't know what's our quarterback status now previous you are
Speaker 9: getting guaranteed money to injured players.
Speaker 6: Who was already.
Speaker 8: Injured coming off the injury list. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 8: We ain't had a quarterback to finish a season.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 8: So let that sink in. Guarant t who money is that?
Speaker 8: When I'm not going to keep doing that, I'm and
Speaker 8: y'all gonna have to tell me boutt.
Speaker 3: L Hey hey, hold on, hold on, speaking speaking of that, Hey, hey,
Speaker 3: we got a video I want to show man. You
Speaker 3: jumped out with the trampoline and uh.
Speaker 1: Come on right there, but this is.
Speaker 3: I am hey d c tell the truth that it's
Speaker 3: a lot harder than what people think though, ain't it.
Speaker 8: Hey, people don't understand.
Speaker 1: First of all, you you.
Speaker 9: People watching people act like they ain't watched it, but
Speaker 9: they watch it.
Speaker 8: Almo fifteen twenty feet away from the goal.
Speaker 9: Bro, you hear me, you ain't no. So when them
Speaker 9: Bobby doing them flips, you gotta respect that. You feel me,
Speaker 9: I miss I had the time, but once.
Speaker 8: I got it, I was up.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, when y'all think about those times, you know, being
Speaker 3: before we traded for you to come to the Hawks, Bro,
Speaker 3: you know me being a huge fan of your game
Speaker 3: obviously in Arizona and uh, everything that you did in Sacramento.
Speaker 3: When you think about those Sacramento teams that you played on, Bro,
Speaker 3: early in your career, what you think made those teams
Speaker 3: so special?
Speaker 1: Bid?
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the chemistry y'all had, and you know,
Speaker 3: the high IQ for the game, the way y'all passed
Speaker 3: the battle, the way y'all made the game easier for
Speaker 3: one another. What do you think, Well, what was so
Speaker 3: special about those kams? You genuinely liked each other, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? So that's why that's what it's saying.
Speaker 11: That's why I tried to bring when I came to Atlanta,
Speaker 11: Like even like we'd gamble on the plane, you know,
Speaker 11: we're walking around the plane.
Speaker 1: We'll you know, go to dinner and stuff like that.
Speaker 11: I just wanted to make sure everybody would hang out
Speaker 11: with each other and really liked each other, you know,
Speaker 11: like us going to the mall, Like come on, everybody,
Speaker 11: put your shit down, but let's go to the mall.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hang out. Everybody just shoot the shit in
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 11: But that was the thing that like, like we competed though,
Speaker 11: like when practice, that second squad that we used to have,
Speaker 11: like a Scott Pollard, Bobby Jackson, heat O turculud, they
Speaker 11: used to beat our ass.
Speaker 1: In practice, you know what I mean. And so that
Speaker 1: used to give us ready as far as.
Speaker 11: Like, okay, shit, we know that like once if we
Speaker 11: don't have if we don't start out good with Howard plays,
Speaker 11: we knew where was the alpha dog on the team.
Speaker 1: We just knew coming in, like we just had to
Speaker 1: make sure we show up when when he needed us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey man, it was fun watching you guys. It
Speaker 3: was fun playing against y'all. I'll never forget Bro, I
Speaker 3: mean from ce Web to Blotted d Bots to Doug Christy,
Speaker 3: those guys were hell of a answers and i Q
Speaker 3: to the roof and then you add you to that mix. Bro,
Speaker 3: y'all was just a hell of a team. Think about
Speaker 3: those legendary Kings versus versus Lakers battles. Tell us a
Speaker 3: little bit about those battles, Bro knowing, he knowing what
Speaker 3: we know. Now, you know what I'm saying, smooth, knowing
Speaker 3: the game, y'all may have been robbed a little bit?
Speaker 3: Do you honestly heldo? Do you honestly think it was
Speaker 3: really you see this ship?
Speaker 11: Man, Look, that's a whole that could change my whole
Speaker 11: that could have changed my whole career.
Speaker 1: You know I was rolling out.
Speaker 11: Now what if it looks like if I get we
Speaker 11: go to the finals, I get finals MVP, that's gonna
Speaker 11: look a whole a whole.
Speaker 1: Lot better on my on my resume than the ship
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Oh, now, listen, bib, I ain't gonna lie to you, y'all.
Speaker 3: Y'all probably should have had one boy, y'all ain't not
Speaker 3: no no now because y'all had a whip. Y'all had
Speaker 3: a whip. I'm talking about main Listen, I ain't think
Speaker 3: I didn't think nobody could beat that Lakers, Kobe and
Speaker 3: sh but brouh when I tell y'all push them to
Speaker 3: the bring. Obviously, under certain circumstances, maybe y'all would have
Speaker 3: won it. But man, that was a pleasure to watch,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Because I was a young book.
Speaker 3: I was just coming into the league in oh one, bro,
Speaker 3: You know that that was everything to me to see great,
Speaker 3: great basketball like that played at the high.
Speaker 1: Just to be a part of that.
Speaker 11: I think Shaq's the biggest, the best big man that
Speaker 11: ever played the game, you know, cop Kobe is top
Speaker 11: two for me. Just to be in those battles and
Speaker 11: going to LA and seeing all those movie stars and
Speaker 11: the guys that you look up to, you know in
Speaker 11: the movies coming and cheering against.
Speaker 1: You, knowing we had a beat.
Speaker 11: I mean, I couldn't ask for nothing else, man, But
Speaker 11: like I wanna pump you guys up a little bit too,
Speaker 11: you know, I mean coming to you guys, I mean,
Speaker 11: it was probably the easiest games that I have.
Speaker 1: Had to play, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11: Like they always talk about my defense, how bad My
Speaker 11: defense was, but shit, I didn't have to be good,
Speaker 11: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I got smoothed back there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that that that blocked out a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: and like and sin screens for.
Speaker 6: You, Joe.
Speaker 11: A lot of these god, a lot of these point guards.
Speaker 11: I said the best I thought. I used to set
Speaker 11: the best screens.
Speaker 3: Oh hold up, Babby, baby, baby, hold up. I've never
Speaker 3: in life, even playing with Nash mar Berry, Kenny Anderson,
Speaker 3: I played with some grace.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody saiding no screen. How you said the screen
Speaker 3: you're in me? That boy ain't nothing but chance over there,
Speaker 3: boyd smooth all chair, He don't don bitch prisds when
Speaker 3: he going the gym. Now he in the way like.
Speaker 6: Like a colorbad.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey he in the weight room. And that boy
Speaker 3: gonna say the mean skin, mean screen. I ain't gonna
Speaker 3: learn to you.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 11: But that ship that no one ever wanted to switch,
Speaker 11: you know, I mean, I I always had to, always
Speaker 11: had a little guy. So I set the screen, and
Speaker 11: he was not He did not want none of you, Joe,
Speaker 11: and he would Joe wide open jump shotting whatever. I'm
Speaker 11: even with smooth, So I mean like even playing with
Speaker 11: you guys, man, it kind of changed my game to us,
Speaker 11: Like you know, I looked up and like Atlanta was
Speaker 11: put like Atlanta's Sacraments are two best places that I've been,
Speaker 11: the two best teams I played on. You know, like
Speaker 11: I still talk to you guys, and still you know,
Speaker 11: talk to Jamal when I see him. I saw a
Speaker 11: c Law a couple of weekends ago.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on that saying a lot, bro,
Speaker 3: you play. You played with the Heat with d wayde Brun,
Speaker 3: You went to New York, Man.
Speaker 1: You giving up?
Speaker 11: Yeah, because I mean that's the I mean, being there
Speaker 11: and being with you guys like the most fun I had,
Speaker 11: Like as far as being on the court and playing basketball,
Speaker 11: like that's the way I wanted to play. I got
Speaker 11: it was I got. I was just all fast break.
Speaker 11: I mean I could think that. You can look at
Speaker 11: the highlights of me and smooth. I was throwing that
Speaker 11: bitch from anywhere.
Speaker 6: I just took throw that up.
Speaker 11: But I gonna get in, like playing with playing with you, Joe,
Speaker 11: just no guys gonna get it. And all I had
Speaker 11: to dudes go find an open spot because they're gonna
Speaker 11: double team you you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I was like, shit, I just got not getting shot.
Speaker 1: I wanted to.
Speaker 11: Remember Smooth, remember that bet we had. Remember I said, Smooth,
Speaker 11: not to shoot ten threes all season.
Speaker 3: Remember we were just talking about the other day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I shot about the six six of
Speaker 6: them that Maymber. I was supposed to be All Star game.
Speaker 6: You should have been All Star.
Speaker 1: Came was like, that wasn't the three? I didn't shoot
Speaker 1: the three? I said, Smooth, I ain't keep I ain't
Speaker 1: keeping stats. You He's like, like, I need to shoot No.
Speaker 6: Three.
Speaker 1: He doesn't shoot No. Three. We had, we had, We
Speaker 1: have the most.
Speaker 11: Fun there man, being there, being with you guys, and
Speaker 11: like Joe, I'm the only one that could stop you.
Speaker 1: I remember if you.
Speaker 3: Remember, oh man, hold on, hold on so so right
Speaker 3: before the game, right before the buzzer by the sign
Speaker 3: and started lining up probably about the last five or
Speaker 3: six minutes. Me and being played one on one every game.
Speaker 3: We used to play one on one.
Speaker 1: Joe, Joe hold say, my son just came in here
Speaker 1: and look, Hey, what's up.
Speaker 3: I remember, Hey, Hey, I remember when you were in
Speaker 3: your own Hey, we're good man, good to see you, Bro.
Speaker 3: Keep doing your thing. I know you have to appreciate that, y'all.
Speaker 1: Good to see y'all. Two yes, sir, good tell our story.
Speaker 6: Joe.
Speaker 1: I used to look, I'm the first and.
Speaker 3: I could lock you up so so so me and
Speaker 3: Bibb used play one on one before every game, bro,
Speaker 3: and it's like, uh you know, uh uh good, good,
Speaker 3: honest defense.
Speaker 1: He claimed.
Speaker 3: He thinks he'd only one who used to lock me up.
Speaker 3: But we should have some good battles though, Bill Hey,
Speaker 3: because you know what she used to get me going
Speaker 3: before the game. You know what I mean, It gets
Speaker 3: your juices.
Speaker 11: Floor couldn't blocked shots, so you couldn't.
Speaker 1: You couldn't.
Speaker 11: The rule was you couldn't block the shots and you
Speaker 11: couldn't do anything. I used to hit him in the
Speaker 11: top of his head and we just played in the
Speaker 11: remember remember the Big Three.
Speaker 1: I was fucking okay.
Speaker 6: I said, let me gordon my garden.
Speaker 1: I'm over there wrapping his arm and catching and beer.
Speaker 6: He a chad.
Speaker 3: He talked about what we played in the Big Three,
Speaker 3: and he was playing with the ghost ball and ting
Speaker 3: about let him guard me. Hell like, hey a smooth, hey, smooth.
Speaker 3: I was handing out buckets like they were skilled on
Speaker 3: what I man, you have something you have something.
Speaker 1: Like he was killing. I'm only one next stopping man.
Speaker 3: Stop with hey, hey, hey, listen, hey, we had a
Speaker 3: hell of a time here.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 3: Look you know Bill, before you get before we traded
Speaker 3: for you, we wasn't in the playoffs hit that year.
Speaker 3: We end up making the A seed with you when
Speaker 3: we end up playing against the Boston Celtics, and we
Speaker 3: all know how.
Speaker 1: That historic uh Syria.
Speaker 3: We couldn't we weren't competing worth the damn in Boston,
Speaker 3: but couldn't get no dub over here.
Speaker 6: At least at least we had ain't.
Speaker 3: Hold on smooth smooth Bill. No lie, I've never in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 1: Seen Atlanta rock neither man they neither.
Speaker 3: And they had some good teams trade and took them
Speaker 3: to the Eastern Conference finals. I ain't never seen that
Speaker 3: building jumping like that. We had the Highlight Factory movie man, man,
Speaker 3: some good times. Man.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was definitely definitely.
Speaker 3: Bro oh man, come on, bro, come on, I'm.
Speaker 6: The only one that paid.
Speaker 1: How crazy you got?
Speaker 6: Jill?
Speaker 1: Hey, you gotta get my money? Got chill? Hey, you
Speaker 1: got a chill?
Speaker 3: He Hey, we got to sit and we got to
Speaker 3: send one prayer up, Bro for a good friend.
Speaker 1: I man, Big J.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 1: I know, we had some great times with Big J.
Speaker 1: We had some great fun times.
Speaker 3: We all used to go ahead, smooth head again to
Speaker 3: the big oh Man, oh Man. We used to have
Speaker 3: some great time. I tell cats all the time how
Speaker 3: I used to play cards with us too.
Speaker 6: Me.
Speaker 3: It used to be Me, Bib, Josh and Big J
Speaker 3: and we cranking jokes on each other and everything. And
Speaker 3: if I had a little shit and dig at the crib.
Speaker 3: Big J was the first one to show up, Bro.
Speaker 3: So I actually not accidentally, but I ran into him
Speaker 3: at the Atlanta Hawks game last season.
Speaker 1: Bro, I get.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he had already got diagnosed, but uh,
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't say nothing about it, and me
Speaker 3: and him sat there and chopped it up for probably
Speaker 3: about ten minutes.
Speaker 1: It was a game.
Speaker 3: I can't remember what game it was. And I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen him since, Bro. And then when I heard the news,
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, and it took me back to
Speaker 3: all those memories we had on the plane the bus rides.
Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, y'all know, Bro,
Speaker 3: once we stopped playing professional. That's the one thing that
Speaker 3: you really missed that they come riderie that you have
Speaker 3: with a cat me Josh, you know that were we're
Speaker 3: talking on the plane the bus playing cards, and it
Speaker 3: just made me think back, how man life is short, Bro.
Speaker 3: But big Ja was a great dude. It was a
Speaker 3: great real quiet.
Speaker 1: But who gave him the name big r V? I
Speaker 1: think you did.
Speaker 3: You can't everybody nickname bro Hey smooth.
Speaker 7: He was a bad Implorence bro Florence man man alegated hands.
Speaker 7: Remember he big Jayson lotion on. He was getting on
Speaker 7: his head, skinned.
Speaker 6: Cards like that.
Speaker 7: Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were so they were
Speaker 7: so dry hey crazy.
Speaker 1: There was days, bro, one of the best times I had.
Speaker 11: I said, like, no matter what team I played, but
Speaker 11: I put uh with you guys and uh Sacramento up there.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 6: It was just fun times.
Speaker 11: It was basketball, you know what I mean? Like when
Speaker 11: I went to New York that shit, my career was over,
Speaker 11: man was I didn't.
Speaker 1: Want to I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6: I was done playing.
Speaker 1: Wood He was like, Mike, come play one more season.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Woody, I'm dumb man. He was like He's like,
Speaker 1: just come play.
Speaker 11: I said, buddy, I am done. So like when I
Speaker 11: got there, I had no intention to play no games.
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna lie to you now. I got there,
Speaker 11: I was like, man, I'm working out, okay, you know
Speaker 11: I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: I was out there trying, but I just didn't have
Speaker 1: it in me. No more like in the games, what
Speaker 1: do you would be like you want to play the day?
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, but I'm cool. Just leave me over.
Speaker 1: Don't feel like you need to play me with it.
Speaker 1: I worked out already.
Speaker 11: Then, you know, be some games like four minutes left,
Speaker 11: like you want to play, yeah, put me in. Let
Speaker 11: me go ahead and just run a little bit. So,
Speaker 11: I mean, I was done already, but I mean it
Speaker 11: wasn't the same as with you guys and come there
Speaker 11: like going to you guys, I felt I still like,
Speaker 11: I felt like I had a little bit left in
Speaker 11: the tank, you know what I mean, coming there and
Speaker 11: just playing to Okay, I'm the older guy in the team.
Speaker 11: Let me try to see if I could rejuvenate these
Speaker 11: guys and you know, get them to play. And we
Speaker 11: kind of got in a fast paced play and we
Speaker 11: just played, I mean, and it showed like it showed
Speaker 11: just the talents that you guys had and for me
Speaker 11: to be like an old wheel to come in and
Speaker 11: just trying to push you guys along. You know, it
Speaker 11: made my time. Like so that was one of the
Speaker 11: best times of my career being in line with y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, we appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 3: We had a great time, not not only just playing
Speaker 3: on the court, but off the.
Speaker 1: Quarter as well. Life was great.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 3: NBA players, Achilles tendon tears are linked to small spikes
Speaker 3: in playing time study fines.
Speaker 1: A recent study.
Speaker 3: Found that players lot more more minutes than the season
Speaker 3: averages doing the ten to fifteen games before the Achilles
Speaker 3: tendons rupture. What do you guys think about achilles tears?
Speaker 1: Smooth?
Speaker 3: You told your achilles in the Big Three? Hold on
Speaker 3: before you get to your story. Germany, he tore his
Speaker 3: achilles in the Big Three. Guess who had to wheelhim
Speaker 3: through the airport.
Speaker 5: MM.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look like look how God work. Look I see
Speaker 3: I come to the airport, I see smooth. He's struggling
Speaker 3: and bucking here a wheel chair. I'm like, damn, what
Speaker 3: going on? I said, come on, man, let me get
Speaker 3: that man rolling? Man, he ain't smooth. Tell us man,
Speaker 3: tell us about that Achilles tending terror, bro.
Speaker 6: It's nothing to play with, man, It's no joke.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, did you feel before you tore it? Did
Speaker 3: you feel anything like? Did you feel it getting weak?
Speaker 3: Did you have any problems a week proud or it's
Speaker 3: just it was normal?
Speaker 6: No, I didn't.
Speaker 7: I mean I think I think I when I dunked
Speaker 7: the ball, because I haven't did it in a long time,
Speaker 7: I think it probably put my body in the shop.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like kind of like you know, when I was playing
Speaker 7: the Big Three, I already had my mom made up
Speaker 7: on how I was gonna play it. I was gonna
Speaker 7: I wasn't trying to go one hundred percent of you.
Speaker 7: You already know it's it's a great lead.
Speaker 6: But you know, you gotta be able. You don't want
Speaker 6: to you don't want to go out like you don't
Speaker 6: want to blow a tie like that type in that
Speaker 6: type of environment. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I would have rather did it in the NBA if
Speaker 7: I was gonna do it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: But for me to for me to be able to
Speaker 7: have a healthy career like that and then go to
Speaker 7: the Big Three and then do that. It was kind
Speaker 7: of like I didn't I didn't pick a ball up
Speaker 7: for a minute. But I don't know the blow shoot,
Speaker 7: I used to wear like mes and eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to blame all kinds of stuff. Maybe because
Speaker 7: I had some lows on or I don't know, man,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know how it happened. But I pumped facted
Speaker 6: and try to try to pull off that right.
Speaker 3: But I feel you think, did you look back, you
Speaker 3: thought somebody trip?
Speaker 6: You? Like, yeah, When I look back and I ain't
Speaker 6: seen nobody there, I was like I knew what it was.
Speaker 6: I just I just shook my head. Man. I was like,
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: Man. Listen, when we were playing here for the Atlanta
Speaker 3: Halls two thousand this had to be two thousand and nine, Germany,
Speaker 3: I was sitting out. I don't know if Smooth remember this,
Speaker 3: but they had set me out for like a week.
Speaker 3: Smooth y'all went on West Coast Trip. I think you
Speaker 3: you had them cut up, you had them balled out
Speaker 3: West Coast Trip. I was here in Atlanta with Wally
Speaker 3: blades getting treatment every day. Yeah, it was my calf.
Speaker 3: My calf was sore I had I had a knot.
Speaker 3: I literally had a knot at my achilles, in the
Speaker 3: middle of my achilles, and Doc told me like, it's
Speaker 3: gonna pop if you keep playing. So they ended up
Speaker 3: shutting me down Germany. So the team going off. I'm
Speaker 3: just going to the reen every day, just getting treatment,
Speaker 3: me and Wally Blaze. And after about two days of treatment,
Speaker 3: I'm like, blade, man, I gotta break a sweat.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: I ain't broke no sweat. Like they gonna come back
Speaker 3: off this road trip. You know, they gonna throw me
Speaker 3: back after I'm already thirty five forty minutes a night.
Speaker 3: You know what's gonna happen. He was like, Cause, you know,
Speaker 3: with that type of injury, smooth Germany, you can't. It's
Speaker 3: hard to walk, let alone, job, get on a bike.
Speaker 3: You can't do none of that. Like when that thing flame,
Speaker 3: it's a rap, bro, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: so he said, he said, man, you should come try
Speaker 3: hot yoga with me and my wife. I look at him, Jennal,
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I ain't fanna do no damn hot
Speaker 3: yoga that's exactly what I told him. The man fan
Speaker 3: do no damn hoig yoga and boom, I grab my
Speaker 3: bag smove I left. His wife called me on the
Speaker 3: way to the crib. She was like, Joe, I think
Speaker 3: you should come. Try to hot yoga to loosen up
Speaker 3: your quad muscles. Take the pressure off your knees, and
Speaker 3: loosen up your hamstring, take the pressure off your low back.
Speaker 3: It'll loosen up your calf muscles, and it'll take the
Speaker 3: pressure off your achilles. So I'm like, all right, she
Speaker 3: didne told me something. Now I'm willing to do anything
Speaker 3: to get back right, get back health to kill y'all.
Speaker 3: Finna come back off the road smooth. I'm ready to
Speaker 3: get back out there, get to some action, right boom
Speaker 3: jeremah going Now I meet I meet them up there.
Speaker 3: We do the hot yoga class.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 3: I've never in life sweated this hard in my life. Bro,
Speaker 3: I felt like a totally different person after class. After
Speaker 3: class I'm talking about I felt like my movement was better.
Speaker 3: My body had done opened.
Speaker 1: Up, you know what I mean. I ain't here.
Speaker 3: I still got some aches and pains, but I feel
Speaker 3: pretty damn good. Boom Blades tell me. He said, just
Speaker 3: meet me at the arena the next day and we
Speaker 3: just come follow up with treatment. I said, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: but I was so geeked. I'm like, man, I'm going
Speaker 3: back tomorrow because I felt good. I felt like if
Speaker 3: I could go two days in a row. He was like, nah, don't, don't, don't,
Speaker 3: don't go two days in a row. Just come to
Speaker 3: the rent and get treatment. I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 3: but I still win anyway. I ain't telling man, I
Speaker 3: almost passed out in class because I ain't understand hi dration,
Speaker 3: ho dration. I ain't understand like how to hydrate, how
Speaker 3: to replenish the body because hot yoga, although it's a
Speaker 3: detox and it takes all the bad out, hell it takes,
Speaker 3: it takes all the good too, so you have to
Speaker 3: put the good back in. I ain't understand that early.
Speaker 3: I'm just going, you know what I mean, I'm getting
Speaker 3: my little stretch on because I wasn't flexible at all.
Speaker 3: I couldn't like, you know, touch my toes and none
Speaker 3: of that. And without flexibility, you know you're bound to
Speaker 3: get injured, you know what I mean. That's what they
Speaker 3: kept telling me. So man, I took a liking in
Speaker 3: the yoga bro for Wally Blades who hooked me up.
Speaker 3: But if it wasn't for that, I probably would have
Speaker 3: had a real major Achilles too. I'm talking about I
Speaker 3: literally had a nod in mind, Like I couldn't even
Speaker 3: walk in the morning, Bro, That's how bad it was.
Speaker 3: So hopefully, you know, we won't have no more Achilles
Speaker 3: tears to you know, none of our top guys in
Speaker 3: the league.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: But it's unfortunate because this is what we talk about
Speaker 3: Germany Smooth. You know, these guys take the regular season,
Speaker 3: they just kind of take it as a joke, not
Speaker 3: necessarily as a joke, but they don't really take it
Speaker 3: that serious. They want to, you know, hurry up and
Speaker 3: get to the postseason. Well, when we get to the
Speaker 3: postseason and you out there going full throttle and you
Speaker 3: ain't even went for a throw out an all damn year,
Speaker 3: that's when we're starting to see these tears because every
Speaker 3: possession is idle at an all time high, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like you playing your heart is like you.
Speaker 1: So I can kind of.
Speaker 3: See how these how these Achilles tears are happening. But
Speaker 3: I hope they can crack down on it.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: I seen my boy, Dame Little. I said he'd been
Speaker 3: in the gym. He looked good, man, he looked like
Speaker 3: he getting back. And you've seen him Germany.
Speaker 10: Man May every day, every day working hard.
Speaker 4: Got it, man, Man got it.
Speaker 6: Admired for sure, I do. Bro, you know you feel
Speaker 6: so good.
Speaker 7: I've seen them running some seventeens like you back back
Speaker 7: in high school.
Speaker 10: I've seen it too, Bro, don't sleep on what's going
Speaker 10: on up there in Portland right now?
Speaker 1: What you mean, what's going on? What you got?
Speaker 3: You see what they just did in the first round.
Speaker 3: You're getting Dame back and they just made a move.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: People hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on.
Speaker 6: People got something.
Speaker 3: They went and got Joe Germany. Something they can't keep.
Speaker 3: They can't keep all them guards. You got School Henderson,
Speaker 3: you got Drew Holliday. You can't kick some gotta change.
Speaker 3: But what they got up there, they got some up there.
Speaker 1: They got something.
Speaker 3: But here's a second round team for sure. Hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, they got something. Here's a question.
Speaker 3: Will Joe, as great as he is with the ball
Speaker 3: in his hand smooth, would y'all be able to play
Speaker 3: off ball, because we know Dame can play off ball. Hell,
Speaker 3: he can catch and shoot with the best of them.
Speaker 7: That's what I was about to say, he has. We
Speaker 7: got to see, uh what y've been doing as far
Speaker 7: as his floor space. Can he catch and shoot Kenny
Speaker 7: space for like, like like how you said Dame can
Speaker 7: do or like how you dreudo mess of the art
Speaker 7: of space and the floor as well. So, uh, that's
Speaker 7: gonna be the next evolution, next step of seeing. Uh,
Speaker 7: that's the only way that this whole thing is gonna
Speaker 7: be able to work if if guys are able to
Speaker 7: play off ball a little bit, let the other guy
Speaker 7: kind of like run the offense or be able to
Speaker 7: get touch paint whenever, to be able to, you know,
Speaker 7: make teammates better as well, to kind of take that
Speaker 7: pressure off of a job and other other guards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you know a y'all both know, man,
Speaker 3: the point guard position nowadays is at a premium meaning, man,
Speaker 3: if you can't score the ball, hell, if you can't
Speaker 3: shoot the ball. And that's my only concern. I mean
Speaker 3: when we talk about Portland, Jo John three point percentage
Speaker 3: just been bad.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 3: I think he had I think he low twenties. Man,
Speaker 3: if I ain't mistaken, you.
Speaker 10: Don't have jobs having to take more off the dribble,
Speaker 10: and Memphis he ain't had. Nobody can get off the
Speaker 10: ball and the handle that ball and create for him.
Speaker 10: Now you're getting up to the Portland where you got
Speaker 10: Danger's gonna handle the ball, you got Drew and hendon
Speaker 10: the ball, and you got school whether they bring him
Speaker 10: off the bench or not, that can also create open
Speaker 10: shots for him. I'm not saying he's gonna go up
Speaker 10: there and shoot forty five percent, but when Dame shooting
Speaker 10: that ball at the clip, he's going to shoot it
Speaker 10: at They got to help off somebody, and that's an
Speaker 10: easier shot for Joll to take his time. And I'm
Speaker 10: sure he's in the gym because he's got some get back.
Speaker 6: He wants to get him. Sure, for sure, y'all get.
Speaker 3: I want to see joall get back to having fun,
Speaker 3: man enjoying the game, smiling, you know, doing his little
Speaker 3: celebration antics. But I ain't gonna lie to y'all, bro
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie him a little worried because you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's a lot different when he was in Memphis
Speaker 3: and he had the ball in his hands every damn possession.
Speaker 3: So it ain't really it ain't really that hard, you know,
Speaker 3: to get in rhythm. Now, you in Portland, you got
Speaker 3: you're gonna have at least two other elite guards next
Speaker 3: to you, meaning Dame Litler, Drew Holliday or school Hen
Speaker 3: You're gonna have at least two of them. And I
Speaker 3: don't know if the reps gonna be enough. Bro, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be honest with you, I don't know if the
Speaker 3: rep's gonna be enough for him to really get in
Speaker 3: rep form, for him to really kind of get that
Speaker 3: gain that confidence back.
Speaker 1: I hope it is.
Speaker 3: But if he struggles with shooting, were shooting, the shooting
Speaker 3: the basketball, you know, playing off these guys, it's it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot tougher than what I think people anticipate.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 10: I think they got I think they got better. I
Speaker 10: think they got better players around him now, like Danny
Speaker 10: has come on.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm saying. You making my point, But.
Speaker 6: They make that move.
Speaker 3: They gotta let him be who he is.
Speaker 1: They gotta let him be who.
Speaker 7: He is, because if you don't, I think but I
Speaker 7: think I think he's a He's the only point guard
Speaker 7: out of all those four that could just touch paint
Speaker 7: whenever he wants to know, so he he he. He
Speaker 7: creates a different type of advantage over the rest of
Speaker 7: those guards because you know, you got to like, like
Speaker 7: Damie lit Is coming off of an acer injury, but
Speaker 7: even before that, he wasn't really trying to go to
Speaker 7: the hole and and touch paint for real, like that
Speaker 7: he was.
Speaker 6: He was step back jump shots and shooting deep threes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know, I think Drew Holliday is more of a
Speaker 7: set up, set up guard, but he's getting older, so
Speaker 7: I don't think, you know, touching paint and will is
Speaker 7: part of his game anymore. Yeah, and you know, School
Speaker 7: Henderson he's another guy that could touch paint as well,
Speaker 7: But I haven't seen him be an elite playmaker yet,
Speaker 7: So I would like to see him take the next
Speaker 7: step of being a more of an elite playmaker, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, because he has the athleticism and the physicality
Speaker 7: to be able to get into paint. But I want
Speaker 7: to see him make his teammates better as well. See
Speaker 7: see how I can see the floor a little bit better,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm with you on this move because he showed
Speaker 3: me some of their spirit series in the first round,
Speaker 3: the first two games in San Antonio. I'm telling you, look,
Speaker 3: we know the defenders that san Antonio got. They couldn't
Speaker 3: do nothing with him that for the first two games.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 10: Yes, confidence is doing that moment when that confidence that
Speaker 10: that confidence carrying over into next year.
Speaker 1: No change.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But but but look though, that's what I'm talking about, Like,
Speaker 3: damn school had a great showing in the postseason, but
Speaker 3: now he come in here he behind three to them
Speaker 3: other point guard. Yeah, coach, how he supposed to be
Speaker 3: able to get his off? You feel what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I hope Portland figured it out.
Speaker 3: Obviously they got a good problem. Hopefully you know, all
Speaker 3: those guys stay healthy. I'm looking forward to a dang
Speaker 3: one of my favorite players to watch, so they're gonna
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun.