Speaker 1: Hell, I Suck at Dating with Dean Youngler and Jared
Speaker 1: Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going On? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck
Speaker 1: at Dating. Jared is busy texting, but that's okay because
Speaker 1: we have a very special co host today, one very
Speaker 1: near and dear to my heart. As a matter of fact, Um,
Speaker 1: she actually demanded what she didn't demand, but she politely
Speaker 1: asked if she could guess them. Let's be real. She
Speaker 1: politely asked if she could be a co host on
Speaker 1: the podcast this week, just to um, just to speak
Speaker 1: her truth and and bear her soul to us lucky
Speaker 1: sucky daters. That a person, of course is Kyln Caylyn
Speaker 1: Miller Keys. I don't know why I studied there. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say Kaylin Bell, but obviously that's not the
Speaker 1: case yet, So for now, it's just Kaylen Miller Keys. Caylen,
Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much, Dean Um.
Speaker 1: The main reason I wanted to come on here is
Speaker 1: because Dean keeps saying ridiculous things about our relationship. Well
Speaker 1: maybe not ridiculous, but the headlines are ridiculous, and I'm
Speaker 1: getting sick of the trolls coming in my d ms
Speaker 1: and telling me that Dean is a bad boyfriend. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to set the record basically. So I, well,
Speaker 1: let me start by, did you want to come on
Speaker 1: the podcast before we sent that video in the group
Speaker 1: chat from Zachary reality, Um, I think I think she
Speaker 1: saw that on her own. And then yeah, that was
Speaker 1: sent amongst the group, but I didn't watch it. I
Speaker 1: was tagged in it on TikTok and I like started
Speaker 1: watching it and then I was like, if he's get
Speaker 1: in his talk crap about Dean, I'm not gonna watch it.
Speaker 1: So I stopped. Well, he he doesn't say mean things.
Speaker 1: So I've met Zachary before years ago, Ashley and I have.
Speaker 1: He's a massive Bachelor fan. He was very sweet and
Speaker 1: in the video it's quite funny because he says that, like,
Speaker 1: Dean should just stop saying stupid about your relationship. On
Speaker 1: the podcast, that's pretty much it, because there's all these
Speaker 1: headlines like, uh, I don't know, so I guess, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: what are some of the headlines out there? What do
Speaker 1: people talk about in your d ms that frustrates you
Speaker 1: so much? From some of the things that Dean so
Speaker 1: wisely says on help, I suck at dating. That's a
Speaker 1: good question. Yeah, let's pinpoint exactly what it is. It's
Speaker 1: just it really mainly is the headlines. And it's like
Speaker 1: I get that people have a job to do and
Speaker 1: they're trying to get people to read. But the thing
Speaker 1: is that people are just reading the headlines and they're
Speaker 1: not reading the actual like what he actually said. And
Speaker 1: I don't know why this one like upset me. Normally
Speaker 1: trolls like don't get to me, especially in our relationship
Speaker 1: because we are strong, But is when they talk crap
Speaker 1: about him that I get so upset. I'm like, he
Speaker 1: is such a great boyfriend, he's such a great partner, Like,
Speaker 1: don't tell me there's red flags, because there's not a
Speaker 1: single red flag, just a couple. Is Dean paying you
Speaker 1: to come on this podcast this week. It's like I
Speaker 1: need a big lift to my ego, Calink, you just
Speaker 1: come exactly, That's exactly what this is. Yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what this is. I've got Yeah, I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of cash sitting over there for her. Whenever this is
Speaker 1: over with, let's set the record straight from Calin. Well,
Speaker 1: there's the record. How so here. Well I want Calin though, Okay,
Speaker 1: well let me let me, let me say something. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, Go ahead and go No, I'm totally
Speaker 1: just kidding. Well, I just want to hear, so Calin,
Speaker 1: how is your relationship with Dean right now? What type
Speaker 1: of boyfriend is Dean to you? I mean, it's well, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be this guy, this guy. Listen, I can explain. No. Um,
Speaker 1: I think that she's not gonna say anything bad about
Speaker 1: our relationship. I think, but you reason, so sit back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, let her do some of the work here, buddy,
Speaker 1: I absolutely will. But exactly, you're here for a reason,
Speaker 1: and Jared is trying to derail your reason for being here.
Speaker 1: You're obviously gonna say nice things about our relationships, like
Speaker 1: our condition of our relationship, but there's other things that
Speaker 1: you don't like that I do on the podcast that
Speaker 1: you're being led away from to discuss. Oh okay, so
Speaker 1: there don't because maybe I'm wrong. I was under the
Speaker 1: assumption that Klin wanted to come on and kind of
Speaker 1: really pooh pooh all these people who are saying that
Speaker 1: Dean is not a good boyfriend, he has red flags,
Speaker 1: he's you can do better. Uh, but if you have
Speaker 1: issues with what Dean says in the podcast, please a
Speaker 1: lot him out. Yeah, kind of a combination of both. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I definitely thought like our engagement was going to be
Speaker 1: kept a secret, but he's spilled the beans on here.
Speaker 1: I'm an open book. I I pride myself in being
Speaker 1: an open book, and it's actually one of my favorite
Speaker 1: characteristics about myself. I'm not like I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can be sarcastic and sometimes and that's when the headlines
Speaker 1: get like taken out of context because my tone isn't
Speaker 1: included in the in the um content in the article
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I guess I should have kept it
Speaker 1: more of a secret in terms of like what we
Speaker 1: were planning on doing, the ring that I was getting you,
Speaker 1: the fact that I would like to have a wedding
Speaker 1: gift as well, because I think the misogyny of modern
Speaker 1: weddings is ridiculous. But that's where I wanted to come on.
Speaker 1: That was like one of the points because I do agree.
Speaker 1: I think buying an engagement ring for a woman and
Speaker 1: like the man being fully responsible is ridiculous, and I
Speaker 1: like went in with it, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: don't we split this because it's something I'm gonna were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I don't agree with the
Speaker 1: man being fully responsible. So then him in return was like,
Speaker 1: you know what if you buy me a truck, he's
Speaker 1: not demanding I buy him a chuck, and I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make that clear. We kind of like came
Speaker 1: to that decision together. But I think it's a good
Speaker 1: compromise because I don't want to have him like financially
Speaker 1: responsible fully for ring that only I'm going to be wearing. Well,
Speaker 1: and that was a solution for you, let's hear it,
Speaker 1: just get engaged on Bachelor in Paradise to get it
Speaker 1: for rings. So there was a lot of not a
Speaker 1: lot of discussion. It was kind of like a quick discussion,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot said in a little bit amount
Speaker 1: of time where Calin was like, well, why don't we
Speaker 1: split the ring? And I was like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: want to split the ring because I wanted to be
Speaker 1: like your gift that I get you. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: why don't I just pay for it myself? And I
Speaker 1: was like that's even worse. I don't want you to
Speaker 1: look at your wedding or engagement ring and be like, well,
Speaker 1: I bought this for myself. And then we were like, well,
Speaker 1: why don't you just like reach out to a jeweler
Speaker 1: and have a jeweler sponsor the ring? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask for a handout for an
Speaker 1: engagement ring. So I like, while I am complaining about
Speaker 1: how complaining and quotations about having to buy an engagement
Speaker 1: ring and spend all this money on something that I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree with or believe in. Not the concept
Speaker 1: of like forever, but the concept of the wedding industry
Speaker 1: and the diamond industry and the engagement ring industry and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I don't believe in that. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I it was It's a it was a
Speaker 1: lot for me to buy into that, But I also
Speaker 1: didn't want Kalen to be looking at her finger every
Speaker 1: day being like, oh, like I paid for half of
Speaker 1: this ring, it's less romantic, and honestly, like even talking
Speaker 1: about it right now is probably destroying the romance in
Speaker 1: it a little bit. But also this is really where
Speaker 1: this is where I get worked up a lot, is
Speaker 1: you just like people don't talk about this enough. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like, I've never had the chance
Speaker 1: to have a discussion with someone about this scenario ever
Speaker 1: in my life, and so I'm like trying to have
Speaker 1: a conversation like outwardly to the world about it because
Speaker 1: I'm like talking through the things that I'm going through
Speaker 1: because I've never had the chance to talk to anyone
Speaker 1: else about it before, and no one talks about it
Speaker 1: like on Instagram or whatever when they're like posting their
Speaker 1: engagement photos and how happy and perfect their relationship is.
Speaker 1: So like I have got no context to work with here.
Speaker 1: I'm like simply explaining the things that I'm going through
Speaker 1: as I'm going through them. And sometimes obviously, like most times,
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: but like that's part of like the learning experience that
Speaker 1: I'm going through that no one else like is able
Speaker 1: to tell me about, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I can't talk to my dad about it. I can't
Speaker 1: I talk to my brother a little bit about it,
Speaker 1: but like, well, I don't know. Now, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: it's a weird conversation to have because of course you
Speaker 1: want to be the person to say, oh, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what matters is love and caring. But like, as
Speaker 1: soon as you can get engaged, what is the first
Speaker 1: thing people are gonna ask you. Let's see the ring.
Speaker 1: Let's see the ring. Let's see the ring. And of
Speaker 1: course you don't want to be constantly feeling bad about
Speaker 1: yourself saying oh I should have spent more, or oh
Speaker 1: it's not that pretty, or like oh well Calin paid
Speaker 1: for half of it, or oh it was sponsored. So
Speaker 1: I agree, it's a weird place to be. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it really we should do a deep dive into the
Speaker 1: origin of engagement rings. Well, because wedding bands make sense.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'll tell and take everything I'm about
Speaker 1: to say with the biggest grain of salt you can
Speaker 1: possibly find. So I was on the phone with my
Speaker 1: brother the other day talking about it, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I was talking about my experiences. He wants to get
Speaker 1: engaged to his girlfriend pretty soon, um, and so we
Speaker 1: were talking about it and I was like, um, this
Speaker 1: is what we're going through right now. And he goes, well,
Speaker 1: do you know the origin of why men buy women
Speaker 1: engagement rings? And I was like, I don't know. And
Speaker 1: he even said he's not unsent certain but he said
Speaker 1: that he read this somewhere, um that the man buys
Speaker 1: the woman in engagement ring because if anything happens in
Speaker 1: the relationship, like if they get divorced or if the
Speaker 1: man dies, the woman can then sell the engagement ring
Speaker 1: for like six months worth of living costs. And like
Speaker 1: that's where that, like the whole origin of engagement rings
Speaker 1: is derived from. And it it's ridiculous. The misogyny and
Speaker 1: in that is so ridiculous, and it's just like a
Speaker 1: tradition that stuck. And again, I could be entirely wrong.
Speaker 1: That's exactly that's what he told me. He's a really
Speaker 1: smart guy. I trust his judgment and his opinion on things,
Speaker 1: but sometimes he can be complete idiot um. And it
Speaker 1: could be one of those cases where that's what that
Speaker 1: is going on. But I do take everything with a
Speaker 1: grain of salt when anybody starts a statement with I
Speaker 1: read somewhere, Yeah, I read, uh yeah, I read an
Speaker 1: article on US Weekly about how the engagement rings were
Speaker 1: this um, well but no, and and then the other
Speaker 1: thing last week too that people seem to focus on,
Speaker 1: which is probably pretty annoying for Kalin and annoying for me.
Speaker 1: I've got really thick skin when it comes to this stuff,
Speaker 1: because I just really don't care about what any of
Speaker 1: these people say. For the most part, some of it
Speaker 1: gets under my skin. But um, there's just people that
Speaker 1: I uh have, you know, not like little respect for,
Speaker 1: but they've just gotten they don't have enough insights, really
Speaker 1: have an opinion that's gonna affect me. Um. And and
Speaker 1: Calin obviously is not less thick skin when it comes
Speaker 1: to that stuff, But I've just been doing it longer,
Speaker 1: so I guess I'm more used to it. Um. People
Speaker 1: were saying stuff like, oh, he's he's not gonna give
Speaker 1: her forever, like he doesn't want to get married, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And I'd like talked to Cal's
Speaker 1: grandparents about this, where I was like, I don't even
Speaker 1: want a wedding. I just want to go to a
Speaker 1: courthouse and do it, and like it's not the concept
Speaker 1: of the marriage essentially that I am not super on
Speaker 1: board with. It's just like the whole leading up to it,
Speaker 1: the engagement, the wedding planning, and inviting your friends to
Speaker 1: come celebrate you for a day is terrifying to me.
Speaker 1: It feels like a birthday when I was like in
Speaker 1: middle school and I invited a bunch of friends over
Speaker 1: and no one showed up. I would be terrified that
Speaker 1: none of my friends would show up to our wedding.
Speaker 1: Um what else. That's that's that's basically the main gist
Speaker 1: of it. But yeah, yeah, what did you talk to
Speaker 1: my Oh? Well, I was just like we were so
Speaker 1: I well, I told them that we're gonna get married,
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, that's really sweet. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but Calin's gonna probably want to do
Speaker 1: something extravagant or like whatever. And I was like, if
Speaker 1: it were up to me, we would just go to
Speaker 1: the courthouse and signed some documents and be done with it.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's it's a big it's a big
Speaker 1: uphill battle for me here. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you I don't know if you remember this, but years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm rambling here, uh years ago on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe this is even pre jared of help. I
Speaker 1: suck at dating. Uh. My question or my my thoughts
Speaker 1: on marriage were being discussed and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to get married ever, but
Speaker 1: if I do get married, I would want it to
Speaker 1: be like not like against my will, but I want
Speaker 1: to be like convinced that it's a good idea because
Speaker 1: that way I know that, like I'm not getting married
Speaker 1: because I am like over excited about the concept of marriage.
Speaker 1: I'm getting married because it's someone that I love and
Speaker 1: I want to spend the rest of my life. But
Speaker 1: and this is basically exactly how it's playing out, Like
Speaker 1: I don't need to get married. Do I want to
Speaker 1: get married, I don't know. But the fact that Klin
Speaker 1: wants to get married is enough of a reason for
Speaker 1: me to want to get married to Kayleen. And that
Speaker 1: that's kind of exactly what I described, like six five
Speaker 1: years ago, and never this podcast started, was I'll do it,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to do it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, no, I'm sure that makes Caylen feel great.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it should. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get what I'm doing it because I love Kalin.
Speaker 1: And that's like, of course, that's about as good as
Speaker 1: it could possibly get. If I was like grease, I
Speaker 1: was like, I want to marry Kalin like three days
Speaker 1: after meeting here. I think that'd be like sure, he'd
Speaker 1: be romantic in a second, but it'd be like a
Speaker 1: flash and plant pain where it's like, but I don't
Speaker 1: even know this person. So I agree, I would rather
Speaker 1: be with someone who feels like Dean than someone who's
Speaker 1: on the opposite spectrum, which is like, after meeting twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, hey, let's get married, let's get engaged. Because
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, we're rushing into this. Do
Speaker 1: you actually love me or do you love the idea
Speaker 1: of being with someone? It's not my love of Kalin
Speaker 1: that's in question. It's the concept of marriage and the
Speaker 1: concept that crap by. Advice for you, Dean would be
Speaker 1: that relationships are all about compromising. So who's compromising here?
Speaker 1: Who's compromising? Thank you are definitely compromising. But I think
Speaker 1: Kalin also has compromised quite a bit in your relationship.
Speaker 1: From an outsiders, please please inform us how that's how
Speaker 1: you know that's the case. I'm curious to know. I
Speaker 1: think won her adjusting to your van life, to her
Speaker 1: adjusting to the idea that like you need space, you
Speaker 1: need time away, you know, three, adjusting to the idea
Speaker 1: that you are completely against like big weddings or any
Speaker 1: type of conventional wisdom, and her trying to lean into
Speaker 1: that and make sure that you feel comfortable and that
Speaker 1: you're okay with the idea of us you two getting married,
Speaker 1: but also you know, hey, I do want a celebration.
Speaker 1: Uh like the domestical life. So but o Dean, you
Speaker 1: have also compromised as well. I mean you have to.
Speaker 1: You're invested in two properties with this woman, which is
Speaker 1: quite big. And uh, you have definitely domesticated yourself more
Speaker 1: over the past few years because of your love for Kalin.
Speaker 1: I think you guys are doing a great job compromising together.
Speaker 1: My advice specifically with this wedding is that if Calin
Speaker 1: does want a day of celebration, I think that you
Speaker 1: guys should compromise. Okay, we want a wedding, but we're
Speaker 1: on a small wedding, you know, so it's so like
Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think it's a good dialogue
Speaker 1: to have, especially on the podcast, because it's great content
Speaker 1: and it will get us listeners, which is fantastic. My
Speaker 1: question for you, Klin, because I want to hear from
Speaker 1: Calin Moore as well, what are you to say? Well,
Speaker 1: I want to know your thoughts about engagement rings, because
Speaker 1: we've heard from Dean about his idea of an engagement
Speaker 1: ring and his insecurities about it. So what about you,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on either Dean buying you engagement ring,
Speaker 1: you buying yourself one the whole idea of an engagement ring. Okay,
Speaker 1: but we're coming back to that after she answers this
Speaker 1: to them, to the whole compromise thing. We're coming back
Speaker 1: to that. So Calin, I want to hear from you
Speaker 1: about compromising in the relationship, How Dean is compromised for
Speaker 1: you and how if you will come back to welcome
Speaker 1: back to the compromise thing and she can answer your
Speaker 1: question now, sir, I didn't want to interrupt. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that we come back to the
Speaker 1: compromising because I've got some thoughts on it. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: which one do we want to do first? Quickly, you guys,
Speaker 1: you can do your question and then we'll come back
Speaker 1: to the thing that I want to discuss. All right, Kaylin,
Speaker 1: very confusing. I'm so sorry. There's a lot to get
Speaker 1: to here. What are your thoughts about engagement rings and
Speaker 1: engagement altogether? Um? I I have never been like I
Speaker 1: needed like a huge ring or anything like that, and
Speaker 1: so I was a little embarrassed when Dean. That was
Speaker 1: when I was like, you shouldn't have said the ring
Speaker 1: that I wanted. I was like embarrassed by that. But
Speaker 1: also I told him, I was like, I don't care
Speaker 1: the ring size or cut or clarity or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But I went to a jeweler and of course he's
Speaker 1: a good salesman, and he kept going up and up
Speaker 1: and up, and I was like, oh, like the two
Speaker 1: care is perfect. And then he kept, you know, getting
Speaker 1: higher and higher, and I was like, oh, that's pretty,
Speaker 1: and so I left with the pretty one, and um,
Speaker 1: but I just don't really care. I think like, we
Speaker 1: already wear rings on our fingers, Like we already are
Speaker 1: committed to each other, so it doesn't really matter to me.
Speaker 1: But I also like love rings, especially, like that's just
Speaker 1: day to day, like I wear rings, so I want
Speaker 1: something that I love too. So it's like I don't
Speaker 1: care about the size, but I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: unique and that's But also I'm like, but we already
Speaker 1: wear rings, so it's kind of it's kind of confusing,
Speaker 1: and I'm like navigating it too. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I really don't care because We're going
Speaker 1: to spend the rest of our lives together, no matter
Speaker 1: if I switched this ring or not, no matter if
Speaker 1: I get a cubic or conia ring or not. Yea,
Speaker 1: I pitched the idea and it was not met with
Speaker 1: with an open mind because I'm picturing like a gumball
Speaker 1: machine ring. But you can't. I mean, I personally couldn't
Speaker 1: tell the difference between a cubic or conia ring and
Speaker 1: like a perfect, really real diamond. Am I an idiot
Speaker 1: for not knowing what a cubic? Yeah? It's like it's
Speaker 1: like the fake diamond studs that you would see in
Speaker 1: like ear rings or rings or something like that that
Speaker 1: you get for like four dollars from like a Claire's
Speaker 1: or something like that. Right. Yeah, I wouldn't go for
Speaker 1: that engage in ring in terms of compromising, but I
Speaker 1: think there's more. I think there could be more conversations
Speaker 1: with that. Um. Okay, so then I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the compromising yeah. Um. So it made pretty clear
Speaker 1: that Kalin doesn't truly care about like how much how
Speaker 1: big the engagement ring is, more like, specifically, let's find
Speaker 1: something that's unique to our relationship than I can wear
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life and look down on
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, this is the ring that Dean
Speaker 1: gave me. Actually, I have a question for you, Calin,
Speaker 1: because we talked about it on this podcast prior, just
Speaker 1: quickly about engagement. Would you ever want to propose to Dean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to, uh what, we're waiting. We're waiting
Speaker 1: and she keeps talking about it as who knows obviously
Speaker 1: doesn't have iten yet, but it's going to and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: because when he first put the idea, it was a
Speaker 1: joke and then I was like, wait, that's really cool
Speaker 1: that I could be able to like make a day
Speaker 1: special for him, but also that this is another thing
Speaker 1: that I don't really know do people Like people know
Speaker 1: that they're getting engaged, but I wonder how many conversations
Speaker 1: they're having leading up to it, because we've had a
Speaker 1: lot and like, I know he bought the ring, and
Speaker 1: I know I have the ring. The ring is in
Speaker 1: my possession, so it's like, I don't know. I'm like,
Speaker 1: are we talking about this too much? Is it less
Speaker 1: romantic or I don't know? Yeah, wait a minute, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I forgot about that. Yeah, you have a ring.
Speaker 1: I bought. We even talking about here, Well, I think
Speaker 1: I about the ring after the two the episode two
Speaker 1: podcasts to Go where I got a lot of heat,
Speaker 1: I like went out like a day later, and I
Speaker 1: already plan on buying it. I was just maybe like venting,
Speaker 1: and maybe I was venting a little too honestly and candidly.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. Maybe it does take a
Speaker 1: little bit of the romance out of it. I don't
Speaker 1: personally think so. I think it's, uh, we're having a
Speaker 1: practical approach to it. Yes, so Dean, you have a ring,
Speaker 1: But Calin says that she's not just wanting to but
Speaker 1: going to propose to you and to also answer your question.
Speaker 1: I don't think it takes the romance out. I mean,
Speaker 1: you people make their own romance, you know, like when
Speaker 1: you really think about it, everything takes the romance out
Speaker 1: of things because it's just the way it is. But
Speaker 1: as a married couple who has a baby, you'll learn
Speaker 1: that you have to create your own romance to a
Speaker 1: certain extent um. Wow, that's crazy, Calin. So yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna so, cal it's gonna be like it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like the Legends of the Lost temple or whatever. That
Speaker 1: show was one of your kids where you have to
Speaker 1: collect both halfs of the medallion before you can advance
Speaker 1: to the next level. And uh, we're not gonna you know, like,
Speaker 1: if one proposes the other person first, nothing is officially
Speaker 1: set in stone until the other person proposes back to
Speaker 1: the other person. Okay, I like, how great would it
Speaker 1: be is if you guys both planned a day and
Speaker 1: you didn't know that you were going to propose to
Speaker 1: each other and you both started getting down one name,
Speaker 1: you guys like, oh wait, you you're gonna you're doing
Speaker 1: too Wait? Can I go first? No? You you go first?
Speaker 1: You ever? Wait? No, I want to I want to
Speaker 1: go first. So calin, will you have a ring for Dean? Yes,
Speaker 1: it is being made right now. Yeah, And oh my god,
Speaker 1: so this is happening. Yeah, well that's so exciting. I mean,
Speaker 1: what you've known this. I've known that you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna get engaged at some point, but I've heard so
Speaker 1: many different stories, and I think that is what leads
Speaker 1: to some of these headlines. Because Dean's does such a
Speaker 1: great job on the podcast so personal, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to ever change up. Sorry, Calinkalen, I I feel
Speaker 1: like in when I relate to your guy's relationship, I'm
Speaker 1: more like you, Kalen, and Dean is much more like Ashley,
Speaker 1: where Ashley is just this open book. And specifically in
Speaker 1: the beginning of our relationships, she would say so many
Speaker 1: things and I would get so insecure about them. And
Speaker 1: I remember her and I talking about a multitude of
Speaker 1: things early on in our relationship, both with podcasting or
Speaker 1: brand partnerships, and me being insecure about what people are
Speaker 1: going to say about us, you know, about how we're
Speaker 1: insecere or you know, they doubt our our real nous,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And I remember Ashley and
Speaker 1: she made this very clear to me, and it was
Speaker 1: kind of a revelation in my head. She's like, we're happy,
Speaker 1: we're in love. Why would we do things to jeopardize
Speaker 1: our financial stability, our future for some random people and
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say, like that means they're winning. Don't
Speaker 1: let it that bother you. Like, we're happy, we're in love.
Speaker 1: That's all that matters. So that's something that stuck out
Speaker 1: in my head that that's not to cut you off,
Speaker 1: but uh, don't go so one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: I h I say outlandish maybe sometimes things is because
Speaker 1: one of the things that really bugs me, and we
Speaker 1: kind of touched on a little bit earlier too, one
Speaker 1: thing that really bugs me is when people only show
Speaker 1: the best sides of the relationship, whether it's on Instagram
Speaker 1: or talking about it with friends, when they only say
Speaker 1: how perfect and great everything always is, and then come
Speaker 1: to find out three months later they're broken up because
Speaker 1: they've been miserable the whole time. And I wanted to
Speaker 1: to say that I admire you and actually a lot too,
Speaker 1: because you guys are very honest and candid about your relationship, um,
Speaker 1: and it's so it's helpful in a lot of ways too.
Speaker 1: But you don't get a lot of that candor when
Speaker 1: it comes to relationships these days. So like, that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I tend to go in the
Speaker 1: complete opposite direction, where I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say all the little things that are not super great,
Speaker 1: and then people will like hear me say these things,
Speaker 1: write an article about it, and they're like, wow, Dean's
Speaker 1: an asshole, and I'm like, no, I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: the things that normal relationships struggle with that you don't
Speaker 1: see other people talking about on a regular basis because
Speaker 1: people are too scared to share it publicly for whatever reason. Um.
Speaker 1: And so you you do a really good job of that.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of my favorite things about you
Speaker 1: and and actually rubs off on you in a good
Speaker 1: way in that in that sense where you do share
Speaker 1: a lot of your stuff very publicly and openly, which
Speaker 1: is important and it's helpful I think in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. Well, thank you. And that was definitely all Ashley,
Speaker 1: because I was much more reserved years ago, and she
Speaker 1: has brought out a side of me that I've always had,
Speaker 1: but I've always been afraid to display publicly. Um and
Speaker 1: now I'm not as afraid anymore because of her. And
Speaker 1: also I think you and with how really you are
Speaker 1: about your relationship Dean specifically on the podcast, shows the
Speaker 1: strength of your relationship, because if you were truly insecure
Speaker 1: about some of these things and had doubt in your
Speaker 1: head about your relationship with Kalen, you wouldn't display this publicly.
Speaker 1: You would keep it on the inside. And then, like
Speaker 1: you said, you like nobody knows anything about your relationship
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden three months you guys
Speaker 1: are broken up. People are like, what happenss like, well,
Speaker 1: because you don't know what happened behind closed doors. But
Speaker 1: the fact that you're so open and honest about your relationship,
Speaker 1: I feel like shows that you guys are in such
Speaker 1: a strong place that you're like, yeah, that's we're doing great,
Speaker 1: but yeah we have problems. We're gonna talk about them
Speaker 1: on on the podcast because that's like we're fine, we're happy.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it really it really irks me seeing
Speaker 1: people only showing the good things. And I get it,
Speaker 1: like you have every right to share what you want
Speaker 1: about your relationship or keep SECRETI about your relationship, whatever
Speaker 1: you want, but it's just it's just I don't know
Speaker 1: and klins. It sees me, uh like roll my eyes
Speaker 1: or do a bunch of stuff like that whenever we
Speaker 1: see someone posting stuff like that, and I'm like, oh my,
Speaker 1: I would I like audibly always go like oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: enough like we don't we don't care, we don't care
Speaker 1: how perfect your life is made up to be through
Speaker 1: your lens that you're telling the rest of the world,
Speaker 1: like just be real with us for a second. Um,
Speaker 1: But yeah, bro, but it gets likes man and all.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got a cater I guess, I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess. But anyway, fact I want. I want to
Speaker 1: bring it back to what we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: You're talking about compromising, and you were saying that Kalin
Speaker 1: has compromised a bunch, and I'm not saying she hasn't.
Speaker 1: But come on, I think I compromise a little bit
Speaker 1: more in this relationship than she has. Dean is very
Speaker 1: passionate about this topic. Seriously, I've known boo hoo. Calin
Speaker 1: gets to ride around and the Mercedes Van in and
Speaker 1: travel to places she's never been to. You before, Oh,
Speaker 1: Calin has to travel with her boyfriend who loves taking
Speaker 1: photographs to new countries she's never been to before, while
Speaker 1: he drives everywhere and and plans everything. Yes, but just
Speaker 1: because it's a good compromise doesn't mean I haven't compromised.
Speaker 1: It's great, and I'm like a better person for it,
Speaker 1: but I still have compromised. I disagree with the terminology entirely,
Speaker 1: but it's good. It's a good compromise. Me. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, here I am. I bought a house in
Speaker 1: the Bourbs with my girl. Is it bad? Is it
Speaker 1: a bad compromise? I think you own a house. I
Speaker 1: was talking to Calin about this just last week. I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm cool anymore. I used to think I
Speaker 1: was the coolest guy in the world, walking around like
Speaker 1: a smug little bat weevil. And now I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I lost my edge. So in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, I've I've given my edge away. I've turned
Speaker 1: my edge in, and I've picked up a set of
Speaker 1: cutlery because I love cooking in our kitchen in our
Speaker 1: suburban house in Las Vegas. But the point shows the same.
Speaker 1: The show is over. I lost my edge, I gave
Speaker 1: my edge away, and I traded it in for an
Speaker 1: engagement ring and a dog. And here I am. Stupid dog,
Speaker 1: stupid dog. Come on, I'm happy, Yes, I'm happy, but
Speaker 1: I'm not nearly as cool as I was three years ago.
Speaker 1: You have to be cool. I think I do have
Speaker 1: to be cool. It's where I get my power from. Um.
Speaker 1: But I still have the power. I still have the
Speaker 1: ability to do the things I used to do. I guess,
Speaker 1: but I just I want to. I wanna set the
Speaker 1: record straight. That's that was my satting record straight basically Okay,
Speaker 1: got it? I figured. I was like waiting for the
Speaker 1: next statement. I'm like, what record is? He said right now?
Speaker 1: And I bought a house with my lovely Boo next
Speaker 1: to her grandparents and a suburban part of Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: And I do home remodeling things for my boo thing.
Speaker 1: And two things. I have two things. One I can
Speaker 1: relate to, Uh, you feeling insecure, your lack of coolness.
Speaker 1: It's something that I feel all the time. And I
Speaker 1: talked to Ashley about this, how I've been unable to
Speaker 1: go to the gym as much. I've been unable to
Speaker 1: do things that like make me feel better about myself,
Speaker 1: whether that's playing sports or even just um doing things
Speaker 1: independently because I feel like when I do things independently,
Speaker 1: like I feel cooler in myself. And so there is
Speaker 1: this sense of like you lose some individuality when you're
Speaker 1: in a relationship. And if you guys have kids, oh,
Speaker 1: just you wait, you really start losing your individuality then.
Speaker 1: But having said that, it, you know, like we talked
Speaker 1: about Dean, life is about compromising, prioritizing because you can't
Speaker 1: have everything. So in my head, I always go back
Speaker 1: to would I rather feel the way I do and
Speaker 1: be in the situation I am right now, or go
Speaker 1: back to feeling a little bit more self confident in
Speaker 1: myself and then going back to the situation I had
Speaker 1: prior to Ashley. And it's not even a question like
Speaker 1: I'd I'd much rather be here now. But so it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of like trying to find that balance of Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta do things for myself, but also put my
Speaker 1: wife and kid first. So I understand where you're coming from, Dean,
Speaker 1: But secondly, I do want to I want to continue
Speaker 1: talking about compromise because I feel like Calin still hasn't
Speaker 1: been unable to answer the question. So Calin, let's talk
Speaker 1: about compromise. What what Okay, let's start off. Let's let's
Speaker 1: think Dean feel pretty good here. What are some of
Speaker 1: the things that Dean has compromised for you? And then
Speaker 1: I want to talk about some of the compromise that
Speaker 1: you've made for Dean. I'm going to step away from
Speaker 1: the microphone. I'm gonna step away from the microphone. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna help a cup of coffee so that way she
Speaker 1: has the chance to speak um the ways he's compromised, yeah,
Speaker 1: like with the house, and he has adapted to my
Speaker 1: lifestyle for better for worse. But I think, like you know,
Speaker 1: we're happy at the end of the day, Like he
Speaker 1: probably could have lived this nomadic lifestyle for the rest
Speaker 1: of his life. But I think we're pretty happy and
Speaker 1: where we're at. But I do think like I got
Speaker 1: the best are under the stick in terms of compromise. Um,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I like myself a lot more. I'm
Speaker 1: like more adventurous, outdoorsy, and I've grown a lot in
Speaker 1: our relationship and that's because he pushes me, and I'm
Speaker 1: like mad in the moment if we're like hiking and
Speaker 1: I have to do this scary climb or jump. Um.
Speaker 1: But like I definitely have compromised too, Like I was
Speaker 1: a pageant girl and now I'm living in a van
Speaker 1: part time. But it's good. He's so dramatic, but it
Speaker 1: is like I I agree, I got the better in
Speaker 1: a stick, and my compromises haven't been as hard as his. Well,
Speaker 1: what are some of the things that you've compromised for
Speaker 1: yourself to be with Dean? Um? Just like being more
Speaker 1: nomadic I think is the biggest thing. Like I really
Speaker 1: liked prior to him to be at home and I
Speaker 1: wasn't super adventurous, and I just I liked my routine
Speaker 1: lifestyle and waking up every day. It was kind of
Speaker 1: the same thing. So just adapting to a different line
Speaker 1: like being more mobile and uh less restricted to a calendar.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Well, I guess I want to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about how you've compromised. Dean's not
Speaker 1: gonna like this. Dean's not gonna like this at all,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna talk about it for a second, how
Speaker 1: you've compromised emotionally, because I do think that Dean is
Speaker 1: First of all, let's just say this, Dean is one
Speaker 1: of the most wonderfully human beings on the face of
Speaker 1: the earth. I'm not saying this to kiss you're asking.
Speaker 1: It's true, Like there are a few people, and Ashley
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this before that the Dean is
Speaker 1: one of those people that you meet and he immediately
Speaker 1: makes you feel good, and he immediately makes you feel
Speaker 1: warm and welcoming, and he's so attentive, and he's just
Speaker 1: a wonderful human being. But I do think that you
Speaker 1: if I was like if I was in a relationship
Speaker 1: with Dean, like mentally and emotionally, there'd be a lot
Speaker 1: of compromise that I would have to make internally because
Speaker 1: like him jumping out of a freaking plane would be
Speaker 1: something that I would have to be like, I can't
Speaker 1: like if I if Ashley like every other week it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go skydive again. I'm like, okay, I'll just
Speaker 1: have a day where I'm convinced you're going to die
Speaker 1: again and uh, okay, have fun. Like I'll just be
Speaker 1: in bed with my eyes staring to the ceiling, just
Speaker 1: waiting for the phone call that the parachute didn't open. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's true. It took yeah, but like it took
Speaker 1: a little bit. But Dean's also the type of person who,
Speaker 1: like I could never tell him not to do something,
Speaker 1: and he's like, definitely going to do it if I
Speaker 1: if I'm like, oh I don't love that, you know,
Speaker 1: so if anything, if somebody scares me, I just encourage
Speaker 1: him more. And then he's like, maybe I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it. But with the side hiving, I yeah,
Speaker 1: it took a while, and then he was doing this
Speaker 1: crazy hike and texted me and he's like, if I
Speaker 1: don't make it back, like there's something in my glove
Speaker 1: box for you. And that took a like and not
Speaker 1: hearing from him for a week and being like is
Speaker 1: he okay? Like did someone take him? Is he fine?
Speaker 1: Is he hurt? Uh? And I guess I just kind
Speaker 1: of that's it. I like close my eyes for a
Speaker 1: week and pretend everything's fine, and then eventually eventually he'll
Speaker 1: text me, and I'm like, see that is for me.
Speaker 1: That would be a part of the conversation of compromising,
Speaker 1: because I think Dean talks about rightfully so about his
Speaker 1: feeling of coolness and individuality and having to do this
Speaker 1: because it makes him happy, which is is that's a
Speaker 1: part of relationship. Like I know I'm certainly not as
Speaker 1: extreme as Dean, and I'm going to sound like such
Speaker 1: a whimp, but you don't like playing softball for me
Speaker 1: is one of those things, you know, like I need
Speaker 1: to do these things. I need to just like get
Speaker 1: out and throw a baseball or get out and play golf,
Speaker 1: like play sports, just run do anything. Um. So luckily
Speaker 1: you know I don't have to put the stress on Ashley.
Speaker 1: But my point being is that, like I totally get
Speaker 1: where Dean comes from. He's like, I need to go
Speaker 1: away for a week and not be around my phone.
Speaker 1: But that is also a compromise for you, I feel like,
Speaker 1: because that's stressful. That's so stressful, Like this is your life, partner,
Speaker 1: this is something that you want to spend the rest
Speaker 1: of your life with, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like for a few days you have to just
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I hope he's not dead. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: here's my take on that really fast, um please, I
Speaker 1: I think from the beginning of our relationship, I've always
Speaker 1: made it clear that I don't want us to uh
Speaker 1: need each other, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 1: want us to want each other. I want us to
Speaker 1: love each other, but I don't want us to need
Speaker 1: each other. And we we've kind of gotten away from
Speaker 1: it a little bit, and COVID definitely put a wrench
Speaker 1: in the in the system a little bit when it
Speaker 1: came to that. But like I want to be I
Speaker 1: want her to be able to leave for a week
Speaker 1: and do whatever she wants to do with her friends
Speaker 1: and not have to worry about what is going on
Speaker 1: with me in regard to like if I'm okay with
Speaker 1: her being gone and vice versa. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because I think it's like the codependency. You can get
Speaker 1: pretty bad at certain points in relationships where it's like
Speaker 1: I and and maybe it's selfish, where like I don't
Speaker 1: want to feel guilty about going skydiving or going to
Speaker 1: Pakistan for three weeks because I'm trying to ingraine this
Speaker 1: idea of like being independent and not necessarily needing the
Speaker 1: other person. And it changes, I'm sure when you have
Speaker 1: a kid and all that stuff, But um, I've been,
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been trying to drive that point home
Speaker 1: to the best of my ability, and we, uh, we've
Speaker 1: done a pretty good job of it. But there are
Speaker 1: times where maybe we struggle with it a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more so more so her. Well, how so, how do
Speaker 1: you struggle with Kalen? I think I think that's exactly
Speaker 1: what it was when COVID. I became like so dependent
Speaker 1: on him during COVID and now I've just been like
Speaker 1: it was right when things started to open up, when
Speaker 1: I was adjusting, like, oh crap, like I won't have
Speaker 1: him here all the time. And this is what life
Speaker 1: was pre pandemic was him like going out, us being
Speaker 1: together for a week, him being gone for a week,
Speaker 1: and it took a little bit of adjustment. But now
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he's going to Pakistan for a month
Speaker 1: and be fine. Yeah. I think unfortunately for Dean, the
Speaker 1: longer you are in a relationship with someone, just the
Speaker 1: natural course of things, the more dependent you become on them.
Speaker 1: Not like you said, I mean there's a sense like,
Speaker 1: of course, like for me personally, I want to be
Speaker 1: with Ashley, but there is a part of me that
Speaker 1: needs to be with Ashley now. Now it's also different
Speaker 1: with Dawston. That's a big difference. But even like I
Speaker 1: think back before Dawson, like if if we were to
Speaker 1: break up, I don't know, there is a I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's tough, not that it would take a while
Speaker 1: for me to get out of the mindset of needing someone.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm articulating that well, but it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's tough, you know, because I do believe
Speaker 1: that the longer you are with someone, the more dependent
Speaker 1: you become on them, and it's just the natural course
Speaker 1: of things. So that's tough. Yeah, I don't know, they're
Speaker 1: hard there are parts of it too where and I
Speaker 1: mean we've we've fallen in line with that like ideology
Speaker 1: a lot too, And it's funny to see both of us,
Speaker 1: like we start slacking in certain areas that we know
Speaker 1: the other person is going to be more attentive to,
Speaker 1: like like even like simple things like around the house,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna worry about memorizing um codes for
Speaker 1: things because I know Kalin has all those things figured out.
Speaker 1: So it's like normally I would obviously have to have
Speaker 1: to have those things down and like figure it out.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know my pin number to my to
Speaker 1: my debit card because why would I need it when
Speaker 1: Klin knows the pin number to my debit card? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like there's stupid things like that
Speaker 1: where I just like fully have just raised the memory
Speaker 1: receptor of my brain because I don't need to anymore
Speaker 1: because Calin knows it, and I'm sure she has the
Speaker 1: same things for me to Like, Yeah, I've definitely become
Speaker 1: dumber since being in a related I feel so stupid.
Speaker 1: I really do feel that I talked about this really
Speaker 1: because we're so because there are so many things that,
Speaker 1: like you said, I used to be responsible for I
Speaker 1: don't have to be with Ashley, and there's so many
Speaker 1: things that she's not responsible for because of me. Um,
Speaker 1: Like we were talking about this yesterday when we were
Speaker 1: going through the airport and Ashley used to have a
Speaker 1: great sense of direction. She still does, but now, like
Speaker 1: I mean, she's constantly walking in the wrong way. So
Speaker 1: and yesterday she's like, you know why this has happened
Speaker 1: because I'm so used to you just leading the way
Speaker 1: that now I don't need to know where I'm going.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I guess that kind of makes
Speaker 1: sense because I'm always like this way, this way. Come,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, no, that makes sense. Kylin is um come,
Speaker 1: did the same thing just the other day. She leaves
Speaker 1: the hotel lobby and she turns right, and I was like, Kylin,
Speaker 1: we've turned We've left the lobby like seven times and
Speaker 1: we've turned left every single time. Why would you turn right?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, well we're going left again for
Speaker 1: the eighth time. Um, I don't know. Yeah, So so
Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying. It's it's a lot
Speaker 1: and Um, every day with Kalin is on charted territory
Speaker 1: for me. Because my longest relationship before Klin was a
Speaker 1: year and it was like tumultuous on an offer a
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So, um, I'm learning as I go
Speaker 1: here with the relationship, and fortunately and unfortunately at the
Speaker 1: same time, like a lot of that has aired publicly,
Speaker 1: and I put my foot in my mouth every step
Speaker 1: of the way. But like I said, like like when
Speaker 1: it came to um Calin, because Calin just mentioned too
Speaker 1: how she didn't love how I was mentioning talking about
Speaker 1: the ring and stuff like that, and I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm not like lying about anything. I'm not making anything up.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like since I'm being honest about it,
Speaker 1: I'm able to talk about it. Sure the like discretion
Speaker 1: could be a little bit better sometimes and and I'm sarcastic,
Speaker 1: but I'm not like, I'm not like lying about things,
Speaker 1: and so um, I'm just learning as I go. I
Speaker 1: guess that's kind of what it is. And the same
Speaker 1: to you. I mean, you've never been married, you've never
Speaker 1: been a father before, so every day you're learning something
Speaker 1: new and all that kind of stuff. It's just it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a tough world out there, you know.
Speaker 1: Can I ask a quick random question, what is the
Speaker 1: battery life of your computer? Right now? Oh? How did
Speaker 1: you know? She just brought the catrge over. My point
Speaker 1: being is that this is a great example of what
Speaker 1: a relationship is all about, because so many times throughout
Speaker 1: this podcast, Dean either one his computer phone dies midway
Speaker 1: through the podcast because he's like, up, it died, I
Speaker 1: forgot to charge it. Or two we have to stop
Speaker 1: a conversation midway because he's like, I'm at one percent,
Speaker 1: I'm about to die. And then here we are. Kaylin
Speaker 1: is here and she's she sees the battery left going low,
Speaker 1: and she realizes, let me not interrupt and let me
Speaker 1: just go quietly grab a charger. And so you can
Speaker 1: see how like little things like that make a wonderful relationship.
Speaker 1: For the record, the computer battery would have lasted until
Speaker 1: the end of this episode, and the only reason I
Speaker 1: know that is because the episode is now over. Um, Jared,
Speaker 1: thanks for letting us have an open form discussion with
Speaker 1: you about this. We really appreciate it, Caylin, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Don't thank me. Thank Oh my god, you guys are
Speaker 1: the one who did amazingly. Uh. If that's a word
Speaker 1: I think it is, Uh, thank you for being so
Speaker 1: open and honest. And let me say one thing before
Speaker 1: we wrap and then you guys can finish up. Uh.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I think that it's
Speaker 1: very romantic what you guys do, Kaylin. I understand that
Speaker 1: it could be super annoying, and I get it when
Speaker 1: all these people are saying things about your relationship that
Speaker 1: you know and are true. Um, but I think I
Speaker 1: agree with Dean where he says that it's important to
Speaker 1: have these conversations openly publicly, because I think what you
Speaker 1: guys are doing is very romantic. Because I know friends
Speaker 1: who don't talk about these things and struggle in their
Speaker 1: relationship because we always say, like, what's the most part
Speaker 1: of part of you know, port and part of a relationship? Communication? Communication, communication,
Speaker 1: And it's like that word just keeps being repeated over
Speaker 1: and over and over again, like communication. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Communication? Like just saying hi to
Speaker 1: each other? But this is what it's about. That's this
Speaker 1: is the communication that we talk about that is very
Speaker 1: important within the relationship, being open and honest and working
Speaker 1: through things. UM. So thank you for doing that. Thank
Speaker 1: you for doing it publicly because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people will enjoy this and I want to truck
Speaker 1: sue me. Oh my god. Anyways, Yeah, that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it for this week's episode. But we do have
Speaker 1: another special episode coming up on Thursday on four. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: the Lovely Kalin will not be co hosting that with us.
Speaker 1: It'll just be us two low LIFs and Tommy Lee
Speaker 1: and them Stink of Itch are going to be on
Speaker 1: Thursday's episode. It's super interesting. You're gonna want to check
Speaker 1: it out, so be sure to tune in for that. Jared,
Speaker 1: thank you again for everything, Kalin. Do you want to
Speaker 1: say anything any party words? Um? No, thanks for having
Speaker 1: me and thanks for letting me get what I needed
Speaker 1: off my chest to Hopefully hopefully Jean doesn't put his
Speaker 1: foot in his mouth again, I will, He'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts, like before anything else you want to
Speaker 1: get off your chest before we go, Well, I mean
Speaker 1: the main thing I just wanted people to know, like
Speaker 1: there are no red flags and you know, read click
Speaker 1: the link. I know, maybe I don't agree with that.
Speaker 1: Listen to the podcast. Actually, don't click the link, don't
Speaker 1: read the headline, just listen to the podcast because Dean
Speaker 1: is amazing and loving and it's a great podcast, So
Speaker 1: do yourself. And I do have some red flags, Like
Speaker 1: there's I don't think we should deny that I'm not
Speaker 1: a perfect person or a perfect partner by any means,
Speaker 1: but I'm not as bad as I made out to
Speaker 1: be sometimes in my opinion, I I don't think there's
Speaker 1: red flags. I think there's things that we could always,
Speaker 1: like everyone could work on. But I don't think there's
Speaker 1: red flags where I'm like, if I marry him, like
Speaker 1: this is like a huge red flag, But you've got
Speaker 1: red flags, you do, no, But I think of red
Speaker 1: flags is I don't know. I think of them as
Speaker 1: like sketchy guys. Yes, something that would prevent you from
Speaker 1: wanting to get married to them, which you don't see
Speaker 1: with Dean, right, I think, do you see with Calin?
Speaker 1: Well that's I don't think. We don't have time to
Speaker 1: get into that right now. And there's the next I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm just kidding. So that's good. You got
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