WEBVTT - Caelynn's Compromise 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell, I Suck at Dating with Dean Youngler and Jared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:10.440 Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going On? Everyone? 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.520 Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.000 at Dating. Jared is busy texting, but that's okay because 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.639 we have a very special co host today, one very 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.280 near and dear to my heart. As a matter of fact, Um, 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.280 she actually demanded what she didn't demand, but she politely 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.000 asked if she could guess them. Let's be real. She 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:31.880 politely asked if she could be a co host on 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.720 the podcast this week, just to um, just to speak 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.479 her truth and and bear her soul to us lucky 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:43.360 sucky daters. That a person, of course is Kyln Caylyn 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.600 Miller Keys. I don't know why I studied there. I 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.680 was gonna say Kaylin Bell, but obviously that's not the 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.159 case yet, So for now, it's just Kaylen Miller Keys. Caylen, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.400 welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much, Dean Um. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.480 The main reason I wanted to come on here is 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:02.120 because Dean keeps saying ridiculous things about our relationship. Well 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.520 maybe not ridiculous, but the headlines are ridiculous, and I'm 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.920 getting sick of the trolls coming in my d ms 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.560 and telling me that Dean is a bad boyfriend. So 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.440 I just wanted to set the record basically. So I, well, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.800 let me start by, did you want to come on 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.440 the podcast before we sent that video in the group 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.480 chat from Zachary reality, Um, I think I think she 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.520 saw that on her own. And then yeah, that was 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.760 sent amongst the group, but I didn't watch it. I 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.080 was tagged in it on TikTok and I like started 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.759 watching it and then I was like, if he's get 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.039 in his talk crap about Dean, I'm not gonna watch it. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.520 So I stopped. Well, he he doesn't say mean things. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.880 So I've met Zachary before years ago, Ashley and I have. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.520 He's a massive Bachelor fan. He was very sweet and 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.280 in the video it's quite funny because he says that, like, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.040 Dean should just stop saying stupid about your relationship. On 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.840 the podcast, that's pretty much it, because there's all these 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.880 headlines like, uh, I don't know, so I guess, Caitlin, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.960 what are some of the headlines out there? What do 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.320 people talk about in your d ms that frustrates you 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.640 so much? From some of the things that Dean so 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.120 wisely says on help, I suck at dating. That's a 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.880 good question. Yeah, let's pinpoint exactly what it is. It's 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.680 just it really mainly is the headlines. And it's like 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.200 I get that people have a job to do and 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.120 they're trying to get people to read. But the thing 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.320 is that people are just reading the headlines and they're 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.480 not reading the actual like what he actually said. And 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.360 I don't know why this one like upset me. Normally 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.519 trolls like don't get to me, especially in our relationship 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.720 because we are strong, But is when they talk crap 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.800 about him that I get so upset. I'm like, he 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.440 is such a great boyfriend, he's such a great partner, Like, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.600 don't tell me there's red flags, because there's not a 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:39.480 single red flag, just a couple. Is Dean paying you 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.440 to come on this podcast this week. It's like I 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.040 need a big lift to my ego, Calink, you just 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.840 come exactly, That's exactly what this is. Yeah, that's exactly 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.560 what this is. I've got Yeah, I've got a lot 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.440 of cash sitting over there for her. Whenever this is 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.040 over with, let's set the record straight from Calin. Well, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.919 there's the record. How so here. Well I want Calin though, Okay, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.639 well let me let me, let me say something. No, 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.959 I'm just kidding, Go ahead and go No, I'm totally 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.880 just kidding. Well, I just want to hear, so Calin, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.280 how is your relationship with Dean right now? What type 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.840 of boyfriend is Dean to you? I mean, it's well, listen, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:21.600 I'm gonna be this guy, this guy. Listen, I can explain. No. Um, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.600 I think that she's not gonna say anything bad about 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.480 our relationship. I think, but you reason, so sit back. 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.760 But yeah, let her do some of the work here, buddy, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.239 I absolutely will. But exactly, you're here for a reason, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.119 and Jared is trying to derail your reason for being here. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.000 You're obviously gonna say nice things about our relationships, like 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.600 our condition of our relationship, but there's other things that 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.800 you don't like that I do on the podcast that 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.440 you're being led away from to discuss. Oh okay, so 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.800 there don't because maybe I'm wrong. I was under the 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.760 assumption that Klin wanted to come on and kind of 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.520 really pooh pooh all these people who are saying that 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.960 Dean is not a good boyfriend, he has red flags, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.560 he's you can do better. Uh, but if you have 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.240 issues with what Dean says in the podcast, please a 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:11.960 lot him out. Yeah, kind of a combination of both. Um. Well, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.440 I definitely thought like our engagement was going to be 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.760 kept a secret, but he's spilled the beans on here. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.600 I'm an open book. I I pride myself in being 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.320 an open book, and it's actually one of my favorite 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:26.040 characteristics about myself. I'm not like I mean, yeah, I 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.760 can be sarcastic and sometimes and that's when the headlines 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.159 get like taken out of context because my tone isn't 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.960 included in the in the um content in the article 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.080 or whatever. But I guess I should have kept it 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.280 more of a secret in terms of like what we 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.960 were planning on doing, the ring that I was getting you, 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.400 the fact that I would like to have a wedding 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.400 gift as well, because I think the misogyny of modern 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.840 weddings is ridiculous. But that's where I wanted to come on. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.440 That was like one of the points because I do agree. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.880 I think buying an engagement ring for a woman and 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.240 like the man being fully responsible is ridiculous, and I 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.520 like went in with it, and I was like, why 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.680 don't we split this because it's something I'm gonna were like, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.200 I don't know, I just I don't agree with the 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.800 man being fully responsible. So then him in return was like, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:12.800 you know what if you buy me a truck, he's 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.320 not demanding I buy him a chuck, and I just 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.360 wanted to make that clear. We kind of like came 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.039 to that decision together. But I think it's a good 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.440 compromise because I don't want to have him like financially 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.680 responsible fully for ring that only I'm going to be wearing. Well, 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.000 and that was a solution for you, let's hear it, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:29.960 just get engaged on Bachelor in Paradise to get it 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.360 for rings. So there was a lot of not a 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.359 lot of discussion. It was kind of like a quick discussion, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.640 but there's a lot said in a little bit amount 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.560 of time where Calin was like, well, why don't we 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.080 split the ring? And I was like, well, I don't 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.760 want to split the ring because I wanted to be 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.640 like your gift that I get you. And she's like, well, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.200 why don't I just pay for it myself? And I 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:46.480 was like that's even worse. I don't want you to 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.000 look at your wedding or engagement ring and be like, well, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.039 I bought this for myself. And then we were like, well, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.360 why don't you just like reach out to a jeweler 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.320 and have a jeweler sponsor the ring? And I was like, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.280 I don't want to ask for a handout for an 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.160 engagement ring. So I like, while I am complaining about 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.320 how complaining and quotations about having to buy an engagement 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.600 ring and spend all this money on something that I 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.200 don't necessarily agree with or believe in. Not the concept 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.480 of like forever, but the concept of the wedding industry 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.600 and the diamond industry and the engagement ring industry and 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.640 all this stuff. I don't believe in that. So I 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.560 don't know. I it was It's a it was a 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:24.880 lot for me to buy into that, But I also 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.640 didn't want Kalen to be looking at her finger every 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.800 day being like, oh, like I paid for half of 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.960 this ring, it's less romantic, and honestly, like even talking 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.279 about it right now is probably destroying the romance in 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.720 it a little bit. But also this is really where 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.520 this is where I get worked up a lot, is 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.960 you just like people don't talk about this enough. You 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.720 know what I mean, like, I've never had the chance 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.640 to have a discussion with someone about this scenario ever 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.840 in my life, and so I'm like trying to have 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.039 a conversation like outwardly to the world about it because 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.360 I'm like talking through the things that I'm going through 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:56.919 because I've never had the chance to talk to anyone 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.080 else about it before, and no one talks about it 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.320 like on Instagram or whatever when they're like posting their 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:06.160 engagement photos and how happy and perfect their relationship is. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.560 So like I have got no context to work with here. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.160 I'm like simply explaining the things that I'm going through 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.320 as I'm going through them. And sometimes obviously, like most times, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.160 I'm an idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.880 but like that's part of like the learning experience that 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.200 I'm going through that no one else like is able 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.040 to tell me about, you know what I mean, Like 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.920 I can't talk to my dad about it. I can't 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.400 I talk to my brother a little bit about it, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.280 but like, well, I don't know. Now, I agree with you, 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.800 it's a weird conversation to have because of course you 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.760 want to be the person to say, oh, it doesn't 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.000 matter what matters is love and caring. But like, as 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.600 soon as you can get engaged, what is the first 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.520 thing people are gonna ask you. Let's see the ring. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.120 Let's see the ring. Let's see the ring. And of 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.520 course you don't want to be constantly feeling bad about 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.400 yourself saying oh I should have spent more, or oh 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.640 it's not that pretty, or like oh well Calin paid 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.520 for half of it, or oh it was sponsored. So 0:07:55.960 --> 0:08:01.440 I agree, it's a weird place to be. Um. So yeah, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:05.000 it really we should do a deep dive into the 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.920 origin of engagement rings. Well, because wedding bands make sense. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.640 I'll tell you, I'll tell and take everything I'm about 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.040 to say with the biggest grain of salt you can 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.840 possibly find. So I was on the phone with my 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.440 brother the other day talking about it, like, you know, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.200 I was talking about my experiences. He wants to get 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.960 engaged to his girlfriend pretty soon, um, and so we 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.240 were talking about it and I was like, um, this 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.000 is what we're going through right now. And he goes, well, 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.800 do you know the origin of why men buy women 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.800 engagement rings? And I was like, I don't know. And 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.280 he even said he's not unsent certain but he said 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.280 that he read this somewhere, um that the man buys 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:42.040 the woman in engagement ring because if anything happens in 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:43.880 the relationship, like if they get divorced or if the 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.040 man dies, the woman can then sell the engagement ring 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.240 for like six months worth of living costs. And like 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.240 that's where that, like the whole origin of engagement rings 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.160 is derived from. And it it's ridiculous. The misogyny and 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.400 in that is so ridiculous, and it's just like a 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.520 tradition that stuck. And again, I could be entirely wrong. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.480 That's exactly that's what he told me. He's a really 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.960 smart guy. I trust his judgment and his opinion on things, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.319 but sometimes he can be complete idiot um. And it 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:09.880 could be one of those cases where that's what that 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.720 is going on. But I do take everything with a 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.679 grain of salt when anybody starts a statement with I 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.600 read somewhere, Yeah, I read, uh yeah, I read an 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.240 article on US Weekly about how the engagement rings were 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.520 this um, well but no, and and then the other 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.200 thing last week too that people seem to focus on, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.080 which is probably pretty annoying for Kalin and annoying for me. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.240 I've got really thick skin when it comes to this stuff, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:35.840 because I just really don't care about what any of 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.400 these people say. For the most part, some of it 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.200 gets under my skin. But um, there's just people that 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:44.800 I uh have, you know, not like little respect for, 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.840 but they've just gotten they don't have enough insights, really 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.520 have an opinion that's gonna affect me. Um. And and 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.440 Calin obviously is not less thick skin when it comes 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:54.800 to that stuff, But I've just been doing it longer, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.120 so I guess I'm more used to it. Um. People 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.920 were saying stuff like, oh, he's he's not gonna give 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.640 her forever, like he doesn't want to get married, blah 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.880 blah blah blah blah. And I'd like talked to Cal's 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.400 grandparents about this, where I was like, I don't even 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.680 want a wedding. I just want to go to a 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.240 courthouse and do it, and like it's not the concept 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.760 of the marriage essentially that I am not super on 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.040 board with. It's just like the whole leading up to it, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.640 the engagement, the wedding planning, and inviting your friends to 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.280 come celebrate you for a day is terrifying to me. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.959 It feels like a birthday when I was like in 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.640 middle school and I invited a bunch of friends over 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.480 and no one showed up. I would be terrified that 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.120 none of my friends would show up to our wedding. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.960 Um what else. That's that's that's basically the main gist 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.560 of it. But yeah, yeah, what did you talk to 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.480 my Oh? Well, I was just like we were so 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.760 I well, I told them that we're gonna get married, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.720 and they were like, oh, that's really sweet. And I 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.640 was like, yeah, but Calin's gonna probably want to do 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.120 something extravagant or like whatever. And I was like, if 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.280 it were up to me, we would just go to 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.120 the courthouse and signed some documents and be done with it. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.480 So it's just it's it's a big it's a big 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.720 uphill battle for me here. And I don't know if 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.560 you I don't know if you remember this, but years ago. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.240 I'm sorry, I'm rambling here, uh years ago on this podcast. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.920 Maybe maybe this is even pre jared of help. I 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.280 suck at dating. Uh. My question or my my thoughts 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.280 on marriage were being discussed and I was like, yeah, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.200 you know, I don't want to get married ever, but 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.240 if I do get married, I would want it to 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.920 be like not like against my will, but I want 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.280 to be like convinced that it's a good idea because 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.280 that way I know that, like I'm not getting married 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:32.000 because I am like over excited about the concept of marriage. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.520 I'm getting married because it's someone that I love and 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:34.640 I want to spend the rest of my life. But 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.480 and this is basically exactly how it's playing out, Like 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.160 I don't need to get married. Do I want to 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.640 get married, I don't know. But the fact that Klin 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.680 wants to get married is enough of a reason for 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.480 me to want to get married to Kayleen. And that 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.600 that's kind of exactly what I described, like six five 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.360 years ago, and never this podcast started, was I'll do it, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:53.040 but I don't want to do it, you know what 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.160 I mean? Yeah, no, I'm sure that makes Caylen feel great. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.520 I think it's I think it should. I don't want 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.720 to get what I'm doing it because I love Kalin. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.600 And that's like, of course, that's about as good as 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.679 it could possibly get. If I was like grease, I 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.839 was like, I want to marry Kalin like three days 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.200 after meeting here. I think that'd be like sure, he'd 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.840 be romantic in a second, but it'd be like a 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.160 flash and plant pain where it's like, but I don't 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.559 even know this person. So I agree, I would rather 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.240 be with someone who feels like Dean than someone who's 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.320 on the opposite spectrum, which is like, after meeting twenty 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.280 four hours, hey, let's get married, let's get engaged. Because 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:28.720 you're like, wait a minute, we're rushing into this. Do 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.320 you actually love me or do you love the idea 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.680 of being with someone? It's not my love of Kalin 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.679 that's in question. It's the concept of marriage and the 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:41.800 concept that crap by. Advice for you, Dean would be 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:46.600 that relationships are all about compromising. So who's compromising here? 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.679 Who's compromising? Thank you are definitely compromising. But I think 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.360 Kalin also has compromised quite a bit in your relationship. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.760 From an outsiders, please please inform us how that's how 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.760 you know that's the case. I'm curious to know. I 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.360 think won her adjusting to your van life, to her 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.680 adjusting to the idea that like you need space, you 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.760 need time away, you know, three, adjusting to the idea 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.640 that you are completely against like big weddings or any 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.920 type of conventional wisdom, and her trying to lean into 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.680 that and make sure that you feel comfortable and that 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.080 you're okay with the idea of us you two getting married, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.960 but also you know, hey, I do want a celebration. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.120 Uh like the domestical life. So but o Dean, you 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.280 have also compromised as well. I mean you have to. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.760 You're invested in two properties with this woman, which is 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:34.160 quite big. And uh, you have definitely domesticated yourself more 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.079 over the past few years because of your love for Kalin. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.760 I think you guys are doing a great job compromising together. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.040 My advice specifically with this wedding is that if Calin 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:43.959 does want a day of celebration, I think that you 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.520 guys should compromise. Okay, we want a wedding, but we're 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.600 on a small wedding, you know, so it's so like 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.240 I think that's great. I think it's a good dialogue 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.400 to have, especially on the podcast, because it's great content 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.880 and it will get us listeners, which is fantastic. My 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.920 question for you, Klin, because I want to hear from 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:03.000 Calin Moore as well, what are you to say? Well, 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.640 I want to know your thoughts about engagement rings, because 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.800 we've heard from Dean about his idea of an engagement 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.240 ring and his insecurities about it. So what about you, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.559 what are your thoughts on either Dean buying you engagement ring, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.240 you buying yourself one the whole idea of an engagement ring. Okay, 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.440 but we're coming back to that after she answers this 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.280 to them, to the whole compromise thing. We're coming back 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:34.240 to that. So Calin, I want to hear from you 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.000 about compromising in the relationship, How Dean is compromised for 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:38.800 you and how if you will come back to welcome 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.360 back to the compromise thing and she can answer your 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:41.800 question now, sir, I didn't want to interrupt. I just 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:42.880 wanted to make sure that we come back to the 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.400 compromising because I've got some thoughts on it. Okay, well, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.960 which one do we want to do first? Quickly, you guys, 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:48.600 you can do your question and then we'll come back 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.640 to the thing that I want to discuss. All right, Kaylin, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:52.880 very confusing. I'm so sorry. There's a lot to get 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.920 to here. What are your thoughts about engagement rings and 0:14:54.960 --> 0:15:01.720 engagement altogether? Um? I I have never been like I 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.600 needed like a huge ring or anything like that, and 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.960 so I was a little embarrassed when Dean. That was 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.040 when I was like, you shouldn't have said the ring 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.040 that I wanted. I was like embarrassed by that. But 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.560 also I told him, I was like, I don't care 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.800 the ring size or cut or clarity or anything like that. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.800 But I went to a jeweler and of course he's 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.040 a good salesman, and he kept going up and up 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:22.560 and up, and I was like, oh, like the two 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.080 care is perfect. And then he kept, you know, getting 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.720 higher and higher, and I was like, oh, that's pretty, 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.960 and so I left with the pretty one, and um, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.280 but I just don't really care. I think like, we 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.440 already wear rings on our fingers, Like we already are 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.840 committed to each other, so it doesn't really matter to me. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.080 But I also like love rings, especially, like that's just 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.960 day to day, like I wear rings, so I want 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.880 something that I love too. So it's like I don't 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.440 care about the size, but I just wanted to be 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.000 unique and that's But also I'm like, but we already 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.920 wear rings, so it's kind of it's kind of confusing, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.120 and I'm like navigating it too. But at the end 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.320 of the day, I really don't care because We're going 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:00.880 to spend the rest of our lives together, no matter 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.440 if I switched this ring or not, no matter if 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.960 I get a cubic or conia ring or not. Yea, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.720 I pitched the idea and it was not met with 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.240 with an open mind because I'm picturing like a gumball 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.120 machine ring. But you can't. I mean, I personally couldn't 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.440 tell the difference between a cubic or conia ring and 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.200 like a perfect, really real diamond. Am I an idiot 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.680 for not knowing what a cubic? Yeah? It's like it's 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.520 like the fake diamond studs that you would see in 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.080 like ear rings or rings or something like that that 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.960 you get for like four dollars from like a Claire's 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.920 or something like that. Right. Yeah, I wouldn't go for 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.360 that engage in ring in terms of compromising, but I 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.800 think there's more. I think there could be more conversations 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.360 with that. Um. Okay, so then I want to talk 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.000 about the compromising yeah. Um. So it made pretty clear 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.800 that Kalin doesn't truly care about like how much how 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.480 big the engagement ring is, more like, specifically, let's find 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.520 something that's unique to our relationship than I can wear 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:56.800 for the rest of my life and look down on 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:58.160 and be like, oh, this is the ring that Dean 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.200 gave me. Actually, I have a question for you, Calin, 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.200 because we talked about it on this podcast prior, just 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.840 quickly about engagement. Would you ever want to propose to Dean? Yeah, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:12.400 and I'm going to, uh what, we're waiting. We're waiting 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.800 and she keeps talking about it as who knows obviously 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.840 doesn't have iten yet, but it's going to and uh yeah, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.560 because when he first put the idea, it was a 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.440 joke and then I was like, wait, that's really cool 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.680 that I could be able to like make a day 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.239 special for him, but also that this is another thing 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.320 that I don't really know do people Like people know 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.240 that they're getting engaged, but I wonder how many conversations 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.280 they're having leading up to it, because we've had a 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.280 lot and like, I know he bought the ring, and 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.560 I know I have the ring. The ring is in 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.680 my possession, so it's like, I don't know. I'm like, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.640 are we talking about this too much? Is it less 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.920 romantic or I don't know? Yeah, wait a minute, Oh 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.800 my god, I forgot about that. Yeah, you have a ring. 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.080 I bought. We even talking about here, Well, I think 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.480 I about the ring after the two the episode two 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.640 podcasts to Go where I got a lot of heat, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.359 I like went out like a day later, and I 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.840 already plan on buying it. I was just maybe like venting, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.520 and maybe I was venting a little too honestly and candidly. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:08.520 But yeah, I don't know. Maybe it does take a 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:09.960 little bit of the romance out of it. I don't 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.159 personally think so. I think it's, uh, we're having a 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.160